ASUS Vivobook 16 OLED Review - RTX 4060 + i9 13900h
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
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Timeline:
0:00 Intro
1:30 Battery, Weight, First Look
2:52 Ports (I/O)
4:17 Teardown, internals, and comparison
8:10 MyASUS and OLED Care
8:50 Screen Test
10:42 Audio Test
11:14 Keyboard and Trackpad
12:15 Fan noise
12:59 Benchmarks
14:48 Fan Noise During gaming
15:09 GAMING - Witcher 3, various settings
15:54 Gaming thermals
16:29 GAMING - Cyberpunk 2077, various settings
17:24 GAMING - Resident Evil 4 Remake, various settings
18:23 GAMING - Baldur's Gate 3 , various settings
18:56 Conclusions
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Doing an internal comparison was a real nice touch, very professional review.
i bought 15.6 version with same processor bcoz of SD card. only missing thing in this piece is full size SD card slot.
Considering it is a rather small screen, setting the resolution to 1080p in game options would help performance I guess?
thanks a lot for the internal comparison!!
I would love this laptop but I hate glossy displays for Notebooks because of the reflexes. Sad =/
How does it compared to Lenovo Thinkbook 16P Gen 4? They have the similar specs, except for the OLED panel. You praised the keyboard, speakers on both laptop. Some comparison would be nice.
the thinkbook has a really nice IPS panel, but its an ips panel. so for those who prefer oled the ASUS is better, for those who want a IPS the thinkbook is better. that is preference. id say the asus is better.
in all ways, the thinkbook performs much better, and runs significantly cooler. you can check out my review of the specific model and check benchmarks including gaming.
the thinkbook has a better keyboard (although both are quite nice) a better glass trackpad, all metal chasis,
really the thinkbook is a significantly better laptop, what the ASUS has is the advantages of a truly superb screen. otherwise its not able to compete.
in the end it depends what you are looking for.
Have the same laptop and I find elevating it slightly reduces fan noise
what about thermals? Does it throttle?
@@theschnitzel9750 the thermals are good GPU stays around 75 cpu around 80 during heavy gaming
How long does your battery last if your doing school work with battery saving settings?
does it good for gaming?
@@andersonpatinocortes3597 Yes is good
Is the K6604JI-AS99 model oled? I’d really appreciate some help, there’s so many conflicting information on it
what is the coldest and better battery life laptop gamer with oled screen?
Thanks for the detailed review man, appreciate it. I'm looking to buy a Vivobook for a friend that isn't gaming at all, just browsing the net and doing some very light photo editing. Could the S15 OLED with the same CPU but no GPU yield better results in thermals and fan noise ? It's at 959€ right now (~1040 USD) (i9 13900H / 16GB DDR4 / 1TB NVMe / Intel Iris Xe iGPU).
i dont have it, but i think if the same cooling system is used it will be still pretty noisy.
Can you recommend me a laptop that I can compare this with that is suitable for everyday office use (videoconferencing) and light website design? I need it to have a 180 degree hinge that is durable because I use it vertical with a stand for better ergonomy. Thank you 🙏
The problem with noise, you can buy a headset from 2e to cover your back. And try 2560×1600 in your game, by quality you won't notice much, but it'll definitely boost your FPS. The screen is the sell here!
This.
O’yin uchun yaxshimi?
@@JasurKhasanov21 CS 2 va Dota 2 o'ynasa bo'ladi. umuman qotmaydi. Lekin, naushnik olish kerak. chunki o'yin o'ynaganda, ventilyatorini qo'shadi. shum judayam kuchli, lekin men ekran uchun shumni alishtirardim. chunki ekran tiniqligiga umuman gap yo'q! bitta naushnik olasiz Gamerskiy. Normalniydi $50 turadi. Shu bilan muammo bo'lmaydi. manda 2e ni naushniki + cooler for Laptop uskunasi bor. mazza qilib o'ynayman. Macbookdan yaxshi ekran va o'yinga mos
@@javohirkarimov2741 Unda bitta olaman, narxi ham qimmat emas ekan, hech qaerda “gaming laptop” yozilmagani uchun ikkilandim o’yin uchun to’g’ri kelish yoki kelmasligiga
I own this laptop and I have to be honest, that level of fan noise can only be expected when running in performance or unlimited mode. From my experience, you rarely even have to turn that on and can have a still relatively cool experience playing games at about 60-70 degrees on the CPU and 80 degrees on the laptop with only a couple of FPS difference between the modes. Perfectely acceptable imo. If you can, maybe try it again but switch it to normal standard mode.
Did he turn on the Mux switch? I have the same laptop but I have a lot more fps than he does at for instance re4 remake with the same settings. Hell, I even have more fps in Alan Wake 2 than what he had in RE4 remake. With high settings, that is why I'm asking.
Any issues with high temps shutting the laptop down? I just ordered one, thanks.
@GoldenKnight702 No, haven't had any issues.
Hows the battery life when u use battery saving?
Does it have a built in mic and if so where is it?
7:33 - the reason why Vivobook has less heat pipes is TDP of GPU. In Asus it's 60W rtx4060. And in ThinkBook it's 130W rtx4060. That's why the difference is so dramatic - Thinkbook has much more temperature to disperse
Yeah, this is a problem with the cpu however.
I bought mine to edit photos in lightroom and photoshop and I always use standard mode and there is no fan noise whatsoever. Obviously if I change to high-performance the noise is very noticeable. I'm very happy because in lightroom, the denoise functionality would take me 20-30 minutes on my older PC and now it's just 5 seconds on a 62mpixel image with 120mb. The image quality in unmatchable but the screen is reflective but not a deal breaker. The keyboard, I would have preferred they didn't had the num pad because it would make the keyboard bigger and anyway, who uses the num pad? Overal, im satisfied with the laptop.
Many people complaining about auto hibernation issue when laptop under stress. What is the workaround?
In case you were still wondering, I go into Task Manager any time the laptop boots up, and end "Asus Optimization". You can set Asus Optimization to not boot up on start, but it resets anytime you update drivers or anything, so I just go to Task Manager.
You said this is pretty heavy? It's the lightest gaming/CAD laptop I could find. What are the other laptops with dedicated graphics that are lighter than it? Carrying weight is really important for me and I'm trying to find the least I can get away with.
As per multiple current search unless you're wanting to spend on the Ssus Pro studioart, even the Lenovo Legion Slim is heavier. Ther rise a version of the Yoga Pro that does had DGPU though. It's been driving me absolutely bonkers trying to decide.
Can you do a review on the 2024 model with ultra 9 rtx 4060?
It seems to be quite noisy. Is it noticeably louder compared to something like Legion slim 7 or Zenbook?
Yes it’s noisier than the legion and the zenbook. The cooling isn’t that beefy so the fans need to go to keep it cool under load. The fans aren’t an annoying sound but they are active
First! Been looking forward to this review 😂
Man I took so long with this one sorry
@@TechGuyBeau no worries! Great review. Certainly a great quality laptop with some quirks and nuances.
@@TechGuyBeau haha it's finally out!
Which model did you review, I was looking at the ASUS K3605VV-ES96 if it ran hot as well while not achieving full performance.
If it has a 13 900 H, you’re gonna have some issues with temperatures. Ideally you would shoot for 13 500 on this chassis
The general problem seems to be noise. I'm not a gamer, I'm not going to play games on the computer. Would you recommend this computer for Photoshop and a bit of Premier Pro?
Sure it would work well
such reflectivity makes it only useful with the lights off during night time, forget about editing stuff with all reflections on screen
You shouldn't be editing any visuals on a lit room, flat or gloss. Ideally you turn off everything and start editing at a comfortable screen brightness.
(0:40) The K6604 has a much better cooling system than the K6602. Actually, these are two different notebooks with different chassis. The K6602 cooling system is a joke for such powerful hardware. I have an older model with the same chassis - ASUS Vivobook Pro 14 OLED, 5800H, and no discrete GPU and I love it. I think this chassis is not suitable for discrete GPUs. I'm considering getting K6604 or ThinkBook 16p G4. The K6604 has an incredible OLED screen and better better-looking keyboard (as for me), but the ThinkBook has better overall quality and two m.2 slots.
Yeah it’s disappointing as it’s an almost all Around great laptop… with inadequate cooling
This is good to hear just ordered the K6604 model 😅 definitely will run games with a cooling pad regardless though
How do you find cooling/fan noice on the K6604? @@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree
lol the k6604 is 1000 more, so yeah its much better
Will the fan sound be same even while playing videos or browsing or its noisy always and will this be the case for all new laptops with i5 or i9 Cards?
The fans are noisy when doing heavy workloads. They aren’t an issue otherwise
I have my eye on this laptop for that mouth watering display, but disappointed about the cooling. The 13500H + RTX4050 is available for about 1250$ in my country, perhaps the cooling would suit the reduced performance? By the way, Asus doesn't make the oled displays, these are manufactured by Samsung.
Does this had black crush at 120hz and also in discrete GPU mode compated to hybrid mode .
Does this auto hybernate while gaming.
These issues are reported by many.
I'm new to PC gaming so I don't know the ins and outs of what I'm talking about... But this has been my experience with the laptop:
I haven't noticed anything funky with the blacks at 120hz personally.. I've definitely never experienced the MUX Switch screwing up and going from Discrete to Hybrid, however the battery will give you less overall power supply than having it plugged in so there is a performance dip on battery I've noticed; and the laptop is already underclocked/low power supply so it's noticeable especially if you're pushing the system with the graphics you're outputting. There might be a separate setting somewhere that switches to the Intel Iris Xe GPU when on battery, but I can't remember for sure.
The auto hibernate is very real, I panicked when I realized it did that Lol But it's easily fixed by opening Task Manager and ending "Asus Optimization". You can set Asus Optimization to not boot up on start, but it resets anytime you update drivers or anything, so I just go to Task Manager. I also keep it on a fan pad because it does run hot, and the extra bit of constant airflow does seem to help, at least a bit.
Does not seem to exist any modern pc laptops with proper cooling, always running hot with fans going crazy ...
how many watts in rtx 4060 ? thanx
I am hesitating between 15 version of this, 15 is 15'6 inch 16:9 display, and this 16 inch 16:10 display, which one I would go for I'm not sure still, what do you suggest?
For productivity and just general use, the extra height can be very nice.😊
This thing looks absolutely amazing for its current price point for an oled with a 4060, right now nothing out there comapares if you can get it for 1300 usd. If you dont want oled you can do muchhh better. But expect to be paying this premium for this screen. Cooling issues, youll need a cooling pad for gaming then your set.
1199 on Amazon right now
Should i get this? Or the slim 7 gen 8 amd (4060) for gaming and programming?
Look into thinkbook 16p gen 4 :D
I have that and its awesome
I was in same boat and got this just for the oled, damn if that screen isnt georgious
How is it performing to date? @@exposedhobo
Would you recommend this over the legion 5 slim 14-in ?
No. The slim doesn’t have heating issues and will have better battery life
I don't get why they don't put these displays on gaming laptops? Its perfect. Gaming laptops can easily drive a 120hz panel and have the cooling to back it up
The Lenovo legion 14” has a high refresh OLED
@@beau-urns Yeah, but it costs way too much. Especially outside US. Asus has been having the cheapest oled laptops by a long shot most of the time.
Vivo has more storage
I bought this laptop for creating AND gaming!
@@beau-urns Yeah, but it has soldered ram.
Worth?
yeah, taking all pros and cons.
i'm a bit concerned about the noise it's makes 🥲..
like it's a bit loud right?
Or can you make any recommendations?
I mean you can't complain it when you buying a slim high-performance laptop. It will get loud but at least your machine will cool and thermal system works.
Great video, i have a question, would this laptop work well for an architecture student? i look forward to your opinion pls
Should be fine yes
@@TechGuyBeau thx, but idk bcs I'm undecided, because you said it doesn't have good cooling, and in architecture heavy programs are used, and I'm worried that it will get too hot. So what about Dell G16 7630.
Thank you for this review. I really need your help because i have a problem with the same Vivobook plz 🙏
Did you message on discord?
Hi, I have a samsung galaxy note 10 lite phone for about three years and it has burn in problem in screen so I can see ghosted icons. is this problem also happen with oled screens on laptops or it has been fixed. thank you for your videos
I got mine 700 at Best Buy 2 days ago
What would u recommend better this vivobook or zephyrus g16 2023 i7 13620H?
i found tht this vivobook has oled, higher intel spec, and ddr5, while the zephyrus use ddr4 and ips, but it looks like it has better thermal cooling
The g16 is much more powerful.
for gaming..i find this and asus tuf...same specs...but this looks more portable...any advice ?
Asus TUF will be be thermally better, but worse screen and portability. So that’s the decider depending on which you prioritize
How well does it respond to undervolting for better thermals? Or is it not worth the bother?
You can’t really undervolt the h chips. That’s more of a hx feature
@@TechGuyBeau Okay, what about the GPU then? Or is it only the processor that gets too hot?
@@Krenisphia the gpu isn’t the issue no. The cpu is overkill for the cooling
Same model with i5 processor and cooling pad ? Will it able to handle the heat ?
Probably better but still might throttle a little
So many complaining that this laptop display had crushed blacks in Discrete GPU mode and even in hybrid mode at 120hz its showing weird black crush.
I had this model and it too had.
I gave it for service but it didn't resolve. Did Asus rectified it?
Does the model you reviewd had this issue?
What is the battery life of this laptop if your running on battery saving mode?
@@dennis2816 it would be approx 5hrs on 70-80% of brightness on battery saving mode
Hi everyone. I have the exact same laptop and the keyboard is always a bit hot in the area of the Enter key no matter what I do. The processor may be at 1% and the GPU at 10% and it still gets pretty hot. Anyone else has this problem or is it just me? This is just to add to the conclusion of this video, that this laptop runs very hot.
How's the battery life
Would you recommend this laptop for productivity purpose?
which laptop is most suitable for day to day designing works ?
m2 air ????
Hi Awesome video! I was wondering... for the same price, is this laptop better than yoga 9 pro 2023 version(i9 13thGen)? Been wanting a creator focused laptop with very good screen. I like the Oled better than mini-led but at the same time I'm a fan of the Yoga 9i pro Build quality. If you could pick one which laptop is better in your opinion? My priority is Photo editing, with very light gaming (csgo) to take while travelling overseas. Thanks !!!
Asus vivobook 16x oled i9-13 vs msi katana GF66 for designing.. what do you recommend??
Probably neither ….
16x i9 is going to run like an inferno and throttle like crazy. If you want an ultrabook you want i7 at most
This compared to the Asus ProArt? Any major differences?
I’ve never reviewed a pro art, sorry
so my 2024 g14 with 4060 is getting 10025 in timespy. When you ran Timespy on this, was it at "turbo" with everything routed to the dedicated GPU? is that even possible to set?
this is on sale for $1200 right now so it's tempting. Also microcenter has the 4070 variant but with IPS 240hz screen for $1250. I'm going back and forth on the new G16 vs giving this a chance because I'm ready to move on from 14".
edit - notebookcheck got over 10k on their 4060. Maybe they spec it different in Europe though
what about buying this laptop for 3d modelling work and photoshop
That's what it was made for really
But it costs 1150 dollar in amazon rn fo
Price right now is CAD $ 1299.00
Asus has OLED which is awesome. I've used Both of them, But I would buy ASUS for the OLED. Why? Because, the picture is very clear and you don't get tired, I mean your eyes
Currently on sales in US for $1299. Is it worth it in your opinion?
No. There are better options for this price for many brands, including asus
@@TechGuyBeau can you recommend some options on this price range? It's really hard to beat a 3k Oled screen with i9 and rtx 4060 for $1.3k...
@@VF5 Theres nothing for this price point for an oled with a 4060 and that cpu. The slim 5 legion 14 used to be but lenovo upped its prices
Do I am crazy or there's no lights on keyboard ???? I still didn't find how to turn them on...
Hello, did you find some more information about the lights?
Which is better this with 4050 or zenbook 14 oled ryzen 8840
am programmer and a student so I need battery and performance
Well AMD will have MUCH better battery. The CPU will be basically equal in real world use.d the primary advantage is the vivobook here has a GPU for gaming
@@TechGuyBeau Thank you but can i ask you one more question. Zenbook 14 oled ryzen or zenbook 14x or the surface pro snapdragon plus edition?
Am really confused and i've been doing my research for almost 2 weeks now
This won't work on Linux, it's an important caveat, i had a LOT of problems, from the thermal sensors not working, to the Wifi not working, a lot of things don't work on Linux. With this machine you're chained to Windows.
If you're a programmer this isn't for you, this is meant for modellers and designers, for programmers the best laptop is a Thinkpad.
The OLED display looks really nice but i've heard a lot of points against them from other programmers who prefer IPS. The points are that OLED drains battery life a lot more than IPS and there's a risk of burn-in which requires special software to mitigate which might not be available on Linux.
The i9 is incredibly fast and i do get desktop-class performance, but it drains the battery incredibly quickly and heats like a vulcano lol and so it's not a worthwhile tradeoff for me and the i7 is still the laptop CPU i'd prefer.
So if i were you and were doing it over again, i'd get an i7 Thinkpad with a nice IPS display and 16-32 gigs of RAM
What color is this laptop? Quiet blue?
Yes
did you ever check if the laptop was using liquid metal or thermal paste?
It uses thermal paste
@@TechGuyBeau Thanks for the feedback, it's a bit of a shocking product, it using thermal paste on an i9 is the cherry on top.
What happened to ASUS, i remembered them being so good in the past.
Just bought a Vivobook, that has RTX 4060 + i5-12450H, and 16" IPS display, not OLED, but it was on sale for 999€.
Great review, and hopefully that i5 runs a bit cooler, if it has the same cooling mechanism as yours.
Just waiting my better half to steal that thing from me. 😂
The i5 was the better choice for sure
I thought i9 would be superior than i5. Could you please explain why i5 is better?
@@olgamorozova3587
Well….
i3, i5, i7 and i9 mean basically nothing. Here is why
Every year Intel releases a generation. And then several processors in that generation. For example
13100 i3
13400 i5
13700 i7
13900 i9
But that’s just 13th Gen. what about a 10th generation i9 versus a brand new 13th gen i5?
Well. The new i5 OBLITERATES the 10th gen i9.
13600 is a much superior cpu to a 10900.
So generations matter much much much more than the “i” in front of the CPU.
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Now… what about inside one single generation?
i5 13500h vs i9 13900h?
Well the 13900h has more raw power sure, but it also runs much much hotter, and consumes more battery. So a thin laptop with a 13900h (vivobook) will not be able too cool a 13900h. Whereas the 13500h will cool properly. As a result they may actually perform almost the same. When I CPU gets hot its performance goes down dramatically. Just putting the “biggest” CPU in to a laptop is actually often a really bad idea. This is why AMD laptops are preferred by me over Intel: they run cooler (aka better) and have superior battery life.
@@TechGuyBeau What a great and detailed response! Thank you so much for explaining. I've been watching lots of reviews to try to find a good laptop for photo editing in LR and Photoshop, potentially some light video editing and general use, but whatever I consider has plenty of downsides. It's been challenging to find a 16/32gb RAM, 1T memory with a powerful processor and good display/color accuracy, 14/15/16 inch, with my budget (1000$ or 1500$ max). (And a full size SD slot would be a cherry on top). I was considering the Asus Zenbook and Dell XPS 15 but not in love with them. So many people are praising Mac, that I'm now looking into a refurbished 15 inch MacBook Air, 16gb RAM, 1tb SSD, M2 of 2023 which costs around 1500. I would prefer Windows since I never used a Mac, but so far no luck in finding my dream laptop. If you have any recommendations I would love to hear about it.
@@TechGuyBeauDoes a cooling mat fix these heat problems?
What is the diference about the 16x?
How are the hinges on this laprop. Manny issues ?
Fine. I find vivobooks to be reasonable well built for the price
@@TechGuyBeau Nice i went with a Clevo pe60rne 16'' i9 13900h rtx4070 140w 32gb 5200mhz 5tb m.2 laptop.
@@TechGuyBeauNice review tho !
Can you charge this through the usb c port?
Yes
at least it is a 4060+13900H and OLED screen, How can I complain about it at this price?
The 13900h is too hot. It would be better with a lower bin cpu
My 4060 is only 75W. To be honest, the performance is still not enough. But if this GPU exceeds 100W, the current heat dissipation is definitely not enough, but if the heat dissipation is increased, the volume should exceed 2KG.
CPU Thermal throttling and limited 4060, idk. That's rough.
Yeah would be better with a 13500h
@@beau-urns I don't think a 13500g is good enough for that resolution, but an i7 I guess woudl be fine.
Higher resolutions place less demand on the cpu typically
how is that possible? higher resolutions are less demanding?@@TechGuyBeau
@@koolkataustin2961 yes, on the CPU. As you increase resolution more and more stress is put on the GPU, taking stress from the CP
If you decrease the resolution then it puts more strain on the CPU lessons the
That is why sports gamers who like crazy high absurd refresh rates often have a mediocre GPU, a very fast CPU, and some weirdly high refresh rate 1080 P screen
High Fidelity gamers, often go for 4K screens, with a CPU, and a very powerful GPU. It all depends what you are looking for
Should have tested the games in other resolutions than what the display comes with. 4060 isnt made to play games at high resolutions.
Yeah use the native higher resorption and then use DLSS when needed. Don’t change panel resolutions, it will look like crap
1:38 look at that giant hideous mcafee sticker! please tell me that it's removable with no residue left. please oh please tell me it's removable.
haha yeah it comes of easily with no residue
How does is fare against m3pro chip?
It’s hard to compare. This is a massively more powerful laptop, but the battery life is significantly worse
@@TechGuyBeauDo you think the battery life on the vivobook pro 15 ultra 9 185H is better than this model?
@@Bossmaney the 185h should have much better battery life in theory
Bought this for $888 on Amazon
Good price
Found it for $1199 , should I buy it?
What currency
@@TechGuyBeau usd
@@TechGuyBeau I’m pulling the trigger, it’ll be here Thursday
what if I use cooling pad? will it help?
There is a cooling unit I reviewed recently that one should be pretty effective
A handicapped 4060 running at 60W.
Shouldn't be configured in such a chassis
Seems like garbage honestly. Fuck I hate laptops how slow they are compared to desktops is unreal
Can this run GTA RP?
What is GTA RP?
@@TechGuyBeauGTA RP is FiveM, which is modded GTA V Online
@@bigbadslimeeIt has a 4060 Graphic Card so it should run it
Asus contracts their OLEDs from Samsung 🧐
Their OLEDs are quite nice
DO NOT BUY THIS MACHINE! ASUS knowingly had manufactured a defective design After only 4 months,the computer's hinge has broken. They will repair under warranty, but it must be sent in. If you can afford to be without the computer for a month, go for it! But know that you will have to get it repaired within the year.
Sounds about right