Thank you for watching everyone! Please consider subscribing if you haven't already :) Buy the G16 from Asus here: tidd.ly/4dREcks Also using this comment as a running note for updates/clarifications/edits that I will add to as needed. 1. The "VRAM modules" that I thought were left without thermal putty at 20:50 are actually the LPDDR5X RAM modules, which explains why there's no pad/putty on them, so that is actually normal. 2. There is finally a 32GB version of the 4070 model in the U.S.! Only bad thing is, it’s more expensive. But you get the fancy new AMD Strix Point CPU: www.bestbuy.com/site/6583376.p?skuId=6583376 3. I’m hearing that mid-year units (manufacturer date May 2024 in the info I was given) have tighter hinges with less wobble and trackpads with less rattle.
@@thomasbitsch5488 We don't know yet. It will certainly be better than the current 8845HS of course, having more cores and a changed process, but we don't know if that will improve anything majorly like battery life, performance, efficiency, etc. Haven't seen any good data yet.
This is among the best laptop reviews I have ever seen. You go above and beyond and are EXTREMELY detailed in everything you inform us about. Please keep doing what you do. We need more tech creators like you.
Honestly, I was searching for reviews of the g16 and ran across yours and just sat and got myself super educated thanks to your thorough and considered approach to reviewing. I’m now a subscriber.
Clearly a lot of thought went into this review. The breakdown of performance with fan noise was fascinating. On every profile too. Insane data just on that one slide alone! The VBIOS swap portion of this review threw me off. It really should have been its own video and not distract from the amazingly thorough review you did on the G16.
Thank you! And good point! I probably did dwindle on the vbios for too long, but I had so many people asking me about it that I just went full-send on that portion lol. Thank you for your comment!
I have the 4070 version. I love the screen, speakers, build quality, keys, battery life (when set to silent and integrated GPU). It does great in the games I play and although the fans do go kind of crazy while gaming, a headset tunes them out just fine. I can recommend.
This. This is the review I've been waiting for. There were so many points made by other reviewers that just seemed moot, and you really hammered in on the details that I've been curious about!! Subbed LMAO THE SPEAKER TEST
Thank you so much for addressing the performance inconsistency issue claim, i am very interested in buying a G16, and this issue is the only issue which blocked me...
Absolutely STELLAR content! Especially the part for thermals! This is exactly what I wanted. A lot of creators tell us that thermals on the laptop are fine, but when we go on forums, everyone's complaining about thermals during actual use because their ambient room temps were a little different, or because thermals during benchmarks weren't (for whatever reason) representing thermals during gaming. Being able to exactly see the thermals during a game helped a lot. By the way, was Control on Low Settings throughout?
@@okdokie278 thank you!! Glad that was helpful. And Control was set to highest settings/QHD for GPU-bound results and then set to Low/FHD-ish for CPU-bound results
I got the G16 and G14 2024, and they are both great! I kept the G14 as I love the portability for traveling and light unreal engine work! Great review my man! Just subbed!
Thx for the review! I will look into the other fan software that seems to be really good. Just bought the G16 version with a 4070, and luckily with 32 GB RAM. I agree that the screen wobble is okay, not bad or cheap. I really enjoyed it so far. The three things that I do not like (so much; minor stuff), is that blueish look of the OLED panel when light is hitting it, inconsitent fan noise in medium non-gaming utilisation (an external display seems to activate the nvidia gpu which cause the fan to kick in silent mode every 2 minutes. I created a profile which stops the third fan in med utilisation, but leaves on the fan at ultra low speeds, which works good), and lastly I prefer rough keycaps, these are kinda slippy. Generally this laptop is really awesome.
Yeah! I think if you tried the iGPU port (left side USB-C) then you wouldn’t have to worry so much about the GPU being active, but you just wouldn’t have Gsync, but yeah that’s good to hear that you’re enjoying the 4070!
@@JoshCravesTech Just tired it. This is really helpful. Thank you! The monitor still uses DVI-D and is manily for office tasks, so G-Sync won't matter by any means 😅
OMG it's the best review I've ever watched. Thanks a lot for this enormous amount of work. Going to buy 4070 variant, from Russia with love! Peace 👋 P.S. this laptop speakers song is hilarious 😁😁👍
Great review. I personally still prefer a thicker laptop and have possibility to use full 175W power of 4090 when needed (125 vs 175W in 4090 is huge performance loss) and use "silent" mode to play with about same performance as this G16 but with A LOT less loud fans because of better cooling. This G16 does not give me this possibility but it's still great laptop. I hope we will see 3nm CPU and GPU in Windows laptops and have more performance/less loud fans in case like this G16. This laptop is first step to this world.
I totally understand your take. That is a definitely cool use-case for larger laptops. While this does perform about like a full-powered 4080, it's nice to have about that level of performance in just the silent mode of a thicker laptop.
Maybe a bit late to the party, but the Optimus vs dGPU topic has been solved completly due to a Windows update. Jarrod has made a video about it. The Windows feature is called „CASO“
Yeah, I have a little comparison to it at the end in Final Thoughts there, it just doesn’t strike me as a great competitor when the G16 already exists. Except for the upgradeable RAM. But everything else about it is just… fine. It’s not a bad laptop by any means, it’s just bigger/heavier, has a power-hungry CPU that barely performs better than the G16’s, eats battery, discharges battery while gaming, has fewer tuning options, worse display, worse speakers. Again not a bad laptop, but it’s typically the same price as the G16 in the U.S., so it kinda lost my interest. If I got it on a good deal then I may review it though
@@JoshCravesTech how would you say the razer blade 2024 4070 32gb and the g14 2024 4070 32gb compare to one another the g14 obviously has the oled screen but what about everything else
@@dakotaconcepcion5398 I would not even consider the Blade 14 in 2024 to be honest. It was a great laptop when it first released a few years ago, but Razer has done nothing to improve it over the years. The G14 is miles ahead now. The Blade doesn't even have Advanced Optimus, so you have to reboot the laptop every time you want to use the mux switch. It's also bigger in all dimensions, heavier, more expensive usually, basic IPS panel, worse keyboard with shallow travel distance, bad speakers. The 140W GPU is also kind of a sham, because they know it will never actually hit 140W on that GPU, it only hits like 100W because it's a 4060/4070 anyway, so they perform about the same. And the G14 always wins in battery life. And software customization is much better on the G14, with a lot more control over fans, battery tweaks, temps, undervolting, etc.
@@JoshCravesTech I. Appreciate your input! Just ran cyberpunk on a friends blade 14 2023 and g14 2024 and the g14 was significantly hotter and hit less frames so just wasn’t sure your thoughts on it
@@dakotaconcepcion5398 Yeah, the Blade will win in frame rate and because it's thicker it will likely be a little cooler as well, but as long as the G14 isn't throttling then it should be fine. "Significantly hotter" makes me wonder if you have a defect though, because the temps should be fairly close. You should be seeing like 75-85C on the GPU and 78-90C on the CPU on the G14. And the difference in fps shouldn't be huge either. Maybe 5-10%. Also depends on the resolution you're running at. 1800p is completely unnecessary on the G14 and I don't know why they even went with that resolution. The first thing you should do is turn it down to 1600p in games for more fps and no difference in clarity.
Hey great review, would def use this as reference material. I like the 'no BS' vibe. However, I'm on the fence, get the 2024 G16 4080 or wait for the new 50 series GPU? Thoughts? I don't neeeeeed a laptop right now, but I'm missing out on play time when I'm away on travel as my current laptop can't play Helldivers and similar.
Yeah, it'll be at least February next year before we see RTX 50 series, so that would be about 9 months that you'd have to wait depending on stock availability. If you can wait that long then absolutely do it because there will probably be some awesome improvements across the board. But if you need a laptop right now, then this is definitely one of the best around. You could also buy now and sell secondhand later, although you'll definitely come out losing a decent chunk of change going that route as it depreciates.
It's true about rtx4070 model that you dont need to run manual mode to increase performance. There is so little fps difference in running manual mode and so much more fan noise that it is just not worth it. To me, it is sad to see both balanced and turbo modes having 95-100 degrees CPU temp in games (I have core 7 ultra, rtx4070, 32gb model). Also my model shows very poor battery life, about 4 hours of web browsing with everything set to best battery life: windows best power efficiency mode, nvidia gpu turned off, silent mode in armoury crate and half the brightness - and it still consumes 20-25 watts. I blame windows for this, because my g16 came with DOS and I installed windows myself. I tried to minimize the effect of self installed windows by updating all drivers and reinstalling it twice, but it didn't help. If you have any idea why my unit has battery life 2.5 worse than every review on youtube please let me know.
Sometimes having hardware acceleration disabled in your browser can make things worse for battery if you did that. Check/disable any unnecessary startup tasks and background processes, use G-Helper. It should NOT be using 20-25W consistently on battery, that indicates a problem somewhere with your Windows or drivers or something. The 95-100C CPU is also not normal in games especially on the Ultra 7. Maybe if the CPU is using 50W or more then sure, but if it’s at like 35W or something then there’s no way it should be getting that high unless you have faulty Liquid Metal application from the factory!
Good question! Yes, it can. I'll touch on it in the video, but I'll go ahead and spoil that it's 1000% not worth doing on the G14 😅 Although I set a world record, the temperatures went through the roof! It does NOT handle additional wattage well at all. But the previous world record was done by just a simple overclock, basically matching the Blade 14 at 140W, so all that extra wattage doesn't really get put to good use anyway.
Straight up masterpiece of a review. I bought the 4090 version and was a bit disappointed with the Armoury crate "bloatware" - I heard someone call it that haha. Tysm for the G-helper shoutout and walkthrough video you made - it has solidified my initial happiness with this product. Question: Before downloading G helper (yesterday actually) my pc hit a temp. of 100 degrees on the CPU, is that acceptable? Do I need to be worried? I would like for this PC to last through the next 4 years of my education, so I do not want to overly stress this amazing machine when I'm just "playing" on it. Do I need to open it up and maybe check if ASUS assembled it correctly? (I'm not that tech savvy to already know how to do that, but I can learn if needed. :) Again - I can't stress this enough: What a damn amazing review, thank you from the bottom of my heart for this hard work you've put into the review. (At 1:00:05 there is a typo "peakers" instead of "speakers". Thaaank you for the review (I basically watched it twice, it was that good!)
Thanks for watching! Also thank you for pointing out the typo, good catch! But yeah, your CPU hitting 100C is actually normal. It will occasionally happen, and these CPU's are rated to go that high without problems. The Alienware X16 R2 for example pushes this exact same CPU to 102C even for extended periods. But most of the time, your CPU should be in the 80's or 90's. There is no problem with that as long as you aren't experiencing big/constant frame drops.
Hey Josh really nice video! I wanted to ask if power limiting the intel core ultra 9 (inside of G-Helper) would increase the battery life of the G16 or would it remain unaffected due to its efficiency. Keep up the effort and good work!
It probably wouldn't really affect it too much. I know some people swear by doing that but for me I feel like I get better battery life from just the stock Silent mode. Sometimes messing with CPU settings will end up having the opposite effect you're going for 🤣
@@JoshCravesTech Thank you so much for your response! I'm trying to find out some worthwile tweaks for just browsing, like disabling e or p cores. Ngl you videos made me purchase this beast, asus should pay you for this if they're not doing so already!👀
Hey man, I want a laptop for college and gaming, and I'm deciding between g16 4070 and 4080 models. 4070 model is 1k cheaper so I won't lose too much with 4080 and vapor chamber right? Also, does this laptop come with any bloatware (getting it at bestbuy), and are you optimistic with this laptop being future-proof? Thanks, great video btw
@@spaceman0808 the 4070 is unfortunately a pretty big dropoff in performance and a decent bit worse in temps. There’s about a 30-40% increase in fps from 4070 to 4080, it’s a lot! And the Vapor chamber does a really good job at taming that cpu especially, compared to the 4070 model. So the 4080 model I’d consider to be future proof. The 4070 model, not so future proof, but still good for a few years I’d say. And no, no bloatware other than what some people might consider bloat from Windows!
The comparison to the 7i in my Final Thoughts chapter is pretty much the major differences between the two! But if I pick one up I might have to, I’m just really thrown off that they put an HX CPU in it, basically making battery life just… not that good :(
@@JoshCravesTech yeah but for me i need a max of 5.5 to 6 hours of battery life, rest of the time i will use the laptop pretty much always plugged in to the power. So i am Hanging on the cliff with this one as the legion also provides around 6 hours of battery in light work. Also how much of power drop is there realistically, between 'i9-14900HX' and Ultra '9 processor 185H' for me as i would be using my laptop for After Effects.
@@shobhitkeshri8282 I would probably put money on it that most people would not notice the difference in performance between the two CPU’s especially at the lower wattage that the Legion runs it at. Those HX CPU’s need to be able to sustain 80W+ to show any benefit and that Legion is too slim to do that for such a power-hungry CPU so they end up performing about the same. But yeah, I’m not sure that even 6 hours would be possible with light tasks. Maybe it could be, but you’d have to definitely do some tweaks to get it there! Both would be great for After Effects though of course.
Microsoft has optimised Optimus with Cross Adapter Scan-Out (CASO) late last year, so there is less benefit of using MUX (needs verification). Also. regarding VBIOS swap, just a word of caution--not sure that VRMs on the mobo can handle such high wattage, might overheat...
@@invictus4807 not bad at all, unless you’re coming from something as quiet as a MacBook. Fans are almost always off in silent mode though which is nice. Turbo can get up to around 50 dB, which is on par with most other gaming laptops
@@JoshCravesTech have there been updates on the "loud" fans? Is there a difference between now and 4 months ago? Because i see complainers on reddit saying its too loud when it came out, but now i dont see any current reviews about the loud sound (third fan).
Really enjoyed your reviews. I got a question unrelated to the 2024 models but hope you could give some advice. I'm choosing between a g14 2023 4060 and a g15 2022 3080. The g14 is around 100 usd cheaper and I need this to run AI stuff. Which should I choose ?
Yep, gotta call them out! If we had more options for 32GB and 64GB then sure, doesn't matter for 99% of people at that point, but having so few options for US buyers was not a good call.
@@i_dazai 2023 Zephyrus M16 or Lenovo Legion 7i (2024). Both of those are great laptops with upgradeable ram. The Legion just won’t have as good of battery life
I have the 3 fan 4070 version and mostly i am also very happy. Speakers, build quality, display, performance. All awesome. What I do not like is yes the vapor chamber missing on the 4070, but the 500€ extra was not worth it and on silent i can not hear it unless the laptop sits on the bed and the intakes are covered. I have some trouble with armory crate and configutation for the lighting, smart charging etc. the 4 macro keys do not always work as I wish. I have troubles using virtual machines on my win11 which should be an issue of windows and not the zephyrus. What is most annoying is the lagging mouse pointer on silent mode. That is not due to reduced refresh rate as animations are still smooth while I dont have heavy tasks running. After some time moving the mouse it gets back to normal
That's good to hear! Yet another person with no issues with the 3 fans, it seems to be more common to have a good experience now than a bad one with the fans. However that is weird about the mouse pointer. It shouldn't be lagging like that. Make sure turbo boost isn't disabled or something in Silent mode. Intel CPU's do not do well with disabling turbo boost which slows everything to a crawl.
Great review. Subbing! Question. Looking for all around device for productivity like programming and video editing as well as gaming. Been looking at the G16, Legion 7i, Legion Pro 7, and Razer 16. Any suggestions? Maybe something I didn’t list? My problem with G16 is no upgrading ability to RAM or storage. I do love the battery life on the G16 though.
So I give a comparison to the Legion 7i (the pros and cons list) at 1:02:59 and Blade 16 toward the end there and I touched more on the Blade 16 in the design portion as well, and Display section. But yeah the Legion 7i is cool and all, but it's bigger in all dimensions, heavier, worse battery life, low color gamut display (not good for video editing!!), worse speakers, CPU runs hot, etc. so for your case I would not consider that one. The Legion Pro 7i is great, but only the 2024 model has 100% DCI-P3 color gamut. The 2023 has a low color gamut so I'd automatically say no to that one for video. The 2024 model is good though, just VERY thick, heavy, loud, and bad battery life. They prioritize performance over all else, so everything is plastic, including the trackpad (I'm holding a grudge against them for that), speakers are bad, but they do at least have swappable ram. The G16 has a second storage slot so you can add an extra m.2 in there, you can see it around 18:15 in the video. And if you buy the 32GB model then you're good for years. 16GB is still the "standard", but it might get a little restrictive in video editing for sure though, especially if the footage is 4K and you're doing other things like browsing. The Blade 16 is pretty similar in build quality, is upgradeable, but it's quite a bit heavier and thicker, has terrible battery life, the CPU is not efficient, and it has nowhere near the amount of control over your power limits, thermals, fan noise, etc. The 2024 does have the same display though as the G16 which is nice, and the 2023 model has mini-LED which is also awesome. Of all of those options, I'd still go for the G16 but my 2nd choice would be the Blade.
@@dilshansandhu2627 depends on which GPU. I have a review on the AMD on the way! The CPU is cool but it definitely doesn’t make up for the 4080/4090 even a little bit. Those GPU’s will still demolish in games
Hey Josh! Amazing video! You helped me seal the deal on getting my own Zephyrus. I wanted to ask how you keep cpu temps so low though? I've followed your g-helper settings, but when I enable any cpu boost, my cpu jumps to 95C when running any game. Some games I've been able to run without it, but it has caused notable fps drops during intensive parts. Any recommendations?
Do you have the 4060 or 4070 model? If so, the CPU seems to run noticeably hotter in those. If your Cinebench R23 score is hitting 18,000 or higher in multicore then it should be good thermally though, it’s just pushing itself as high it can get. Frame drops are kinda worrisome though, like maybe part of the Liquid Metal on the CPU is dry. Try limiting it to 25-30W PL1 and PL2
@@EagleJack-kh7zt oh good yeah a wattage limit is a good idea. Lifting the back of the laptop, even an inch helps too. And what is your separate cpu and GPU scores on that Time Spy run?
@@JoshCravesTech Ill have to try to see what lifting the laptop does! Thanks for the tips! My GPU score is 14783 and CPU score is 11931 running on turbo with cpu boost enabled and default wattage limit.
The hinge is definitely quite wobbly when you are typing while having it on your lap. A person has to be a robot if they don’t make it wobble when on their lap 😂.
Always buy through a 3rd party if possible! In the US we have Best Buy and Micro Center - your warranty/support through them will be 10x better than Asus. And it's not just Asus btw. Yes they need to improve, but I can't turn a blind eye to the hundreds of posts I see all the time on other laptop subreddits and forums with the exact same issues going on. Asus was just called out right now, you'll very likely see the same happen with others over the next year or so unless there is an industry-wide change. One positive light though is that Asus USA/Canada just put out today (May 25 2024) an action statement on their Twitter with plans moving forward to improve their process, so fingers crossed it improves.
@@QuickDucks you can just use one of those cheap thermal pad/copper plate things on Amazon. Should fit just fine, and if it doesn’t then just remove the copper heatsink plate!
Rumors say that at Computex we will see amd version of zephyrus g16, i think it should be better then intel version.Would be cool If you make a video about differences between them.
Yeah, realistically I don't think the AMD model will be too much better, or even much different at all, at least not enough to make the average user want to exchange their current G16 for it, but I would love to be pleasantly surprised!
I will probably not buy the 4070 model, as I tried to make as many comparisons to that one as possible based on specs, user reviews, and chatting with lots of people who own it! For performance differences, just look at the “Flow X16” in all my charts. It performs identically. Everything else is the same, just add 1-2 dB to fan noise and add maybe 3-5C maximum to temps. The 4070 model is also just barely thinner and lighter!
1:02:56 in the video covers basically all the differences I've found between the two! If you absolutely must have upgradeable ram, then the Legion is a great choice, but the G16 is a much more premium experience overall with more customizable software and tuning. I would opt for the G16 for the display and battery life alone.
Hey your video is a gem but i think you might wanna double check some stuff because on a quick research it seems that the yoga pro 9i does have an hdmi 2.1... so... I'm confused but watch out the informations you just gathered from people on internet VS testing yourself like you did with the g16. I think a fair video would be to review the yoga pro 9i just to be sure (specially with the claim of batterys and all at the end)
Thank you! Yeah so I could've elaborated there. Lenovo claims that it's HDMI 2.1 but it is not. Users have tested it and it only supports 4K/60Hz output, so it is actually HDMI 2.0. I only post these things if I see multiple reports, I never go off the word of just one person. Or if I do, I will ask them to send me pictures/screenshots to verify.
@@JoshCravesTech thanks for your reply. Makes more sense. If it wouldn't be for the price in france (3400$ for a... Rtx 4070..) and the latest Asus Warranty fiasco i wouldn't be so hesitant... Your opinion about that? (Warranty scam stuff)? Overall your review are something else. Prop's for the gigantic job!
@@bryce2fadeway Yeah that's super expensive! But yeah I think the Asus warranty stuff definitely needed to be called out, however it has gotten a bit out of hand, as many other regions get better support from Asus than the U.S. does. Also, the large majority of U.S. buyers buy Asus products through Best Buy or Micro Center anyways, who all have great warranties ad cover the product separately from Asus, so you never actually have to deal with Asus themselves. And I can't sit here and ignore the hundreds of posts on Reddit I see about other laptop manufacturers with the exact same issues going on. Those all need to be called out as well, and maybe they will eventually. It's the entire industry that needs to improve in the RMA department, not just Asus. But overall I feel it's a net positive to wake them up to improving processes, which it seems like they're already doing, and maybe others will follow.
I am confused also, but this is why I strayed more than once to other brands of laptops, I will never, never, ever buy a laptop with all onboard RAM, I will hesitate to purchase a laptop that has only one SODIMM slot, because you are stuck with the speed of the onboard RAM, so any MFG that has soldered RAM and non upgradable RAM I will NEVER purchase any laptop with this restriction, I will never compromise on this issue, as I did in the past and as I will do in the future!
This is shocking for me to hear that you didnt find the soldered RAM to be an issue. To me this is the number one blunder on such a gorgeous laptop. Also they should have used an AMD chip for the CPU.
@@sunny_1515 there is an AMD model out now! And yeah 32GB of fast, low-latency ram hasn’t hindered me one time, even editing 4K video with tons of layers. Helps battery life too! I mean sure it’s not the best thing in the world but if there are options then I’m fine with it. Like the 16GB 4070 model in the US is inexcusable, and not having a 64GB option. But LPCAMM is on the way to laptops soon so we’ll probably see that in 2025/2026
im looking at the g14 and g16 4070 32gb model (they sell 32gb ram in uk for 4070 g16) not sure which is better for all purpose gaming at home with option to take it out if needed
They will honestly both be about the same. The only major differences would be of course maybe like 5-10% more GPU performance from the G16 because the additional wattage and slightly lower resolution (1600p vs 1800p but they both look the same in person) and the higher refresh rate of 240Hz on the G16. The G14 is of course even more portable and lightweight though, so if that's important to you and you like a 14" display then go for the G14.
Other than the storage being 2TB vs 1TB do you think it's worth the extra $600 for the 4090 over the 4080 model? I really want the Blade 16 but it's crazy expensive vs the G16. I'm a fan of both companies but Asus has a better package all the way around imo. I already have a 4090 rig at home so I don't care about FPS as much. I just want something portable with an OLED screen with nice speakers that could play games with great graphics, it doesn't need to be the best. I just don't want to spend so much on basically a non improvement CPU and GPU year if you know what I mean. 😊 My current labtop is a 2022 Flow X16 3060. I still love it even tho the GPU isn't the best. Everything else like build quality makes up for it. The IPS display with a glossy screen is better than most matte screens imo. Also I'm not a fan of mini LED screens. Had a monitor with it and it just isn't my thing even tho it's bright like crazy. OLED is the way to go imo for any displays. I got 2 TVs that are OLED and one of them is a QD-OLED. I can't wait for labtops to come out with QD-OLEDs though. That's when I will upgrade again. I subbed btw cause you're thorough reviews are pretty awesome.
The 4090 is not worth the extra $600 tbh. Unless budget just isn't a concern, I'd recommend the 4080. You're only losing out on maybe 10-15% fps at the most. I've seen the differences be as small as 5% in some games, so I don't think that permits an extra $600 😂 But yeah the Flow is an AMAZING laptop, and if they had a 4080/4090 version then it would probably still be my daily driver. It's just the 4060/4070 are SO far behind that it's almost laughable, and sad.
@@JoshCravesTech Went through the final thoughts twice as I thought I missed something the first time, but it seems there is only a very light spec based comparison and some small extra details. During my research for my next laptop I've considered the Yoga Pro 9i (with the RTX 4070 option) model after watching Just Josh review of this Zephyrus G16 laptop (the model with RTX 4080) and his review of the Yoga Pro 9i. He showed issues with the fan noise and temperatures with the Asus model. There is also the price difference (in Europe), where Zephyrus G16 is €3,300 while Yoga Pro 9 is €2,600, I personally think it is a lot. Consider all this would you still choose Zephyrus G16 over Yoga Pro 9? Btw, really nice review and very detailed covering many interesting details for this laptop!
I am also deciding between legion yoga pro 9i and g16 2024 (4070 variants). I can say that i have watched lots of reviews but still indecisive. My main usage will be programming hence i have built desktop pc for gaming etc. I will be happy if you share what you conclude up buying.
Just Josh also acknowledged in his latest video that the G16 fan noise is not as bad as he initially reviewed, I guess thanks to a bios update. His Yoga review is a little… idk, after watching more reviews from actual users and messaging people, I compiled that list. Worse battery life, worse balanced mode, fan noise is higher in performance mode on the Yoga, fan noise in general is VERY similar on both in Silent/Balanced mode, temps are also very similar on both, but that CPU gets up to 100C+ on the Yoga. However, either way I wouldn’t say thermals are an issue at all on either one. People are experiencing battery discharge on the Yoga when gaming, no HDMI 2.1 is unacceptable to me, and no ports tied to the dGPU at all is just odd, worse speakers. Also Yoga is bigger in all dimensions and heavier. To me that’s just too many cons when the G16 is actually cheaper here in the US! But in your case the Yoga is significantly cheaper so it might actually be worth it for you 😅
@@JoshCravesTech Really appreciate your input and comparison on this topic. When you put it like that, Zephyrus G16 seems to be better than Yoga Pro 9i. The only downside is the price diff in my area. I think I'll keep an eye on the prices for a few days and see how things go and try to go with the one from Asus if I notice a price drop, if not I'll go with the Lenovo. For my purposes (mostly programming), I think both will do pretty well. Thank you.
@@WhipItSBreezy thanks but i think ill be like most tech web/forum i used to read, have nothing to inform eventually, but ofc glad to have helped people, think most feel same
@@FakeReal007 should be in 2 years not next year. Unless theyre skipping lower ends one somehow 4050-4090 desktop should be released next year. Like what happened in the past it would be a year after desktop is released
keep up the good work. i love these long reviews like that i dont have to spend half my time actually looking for reviews. it also allows for more detailed descriptions instead of just repeating the same key features over and over across different videos
I remember pouring over your content before (and after) getting my 2021 G15. Your optimisation guide and later, vbios guide were incredibly well done and have helped me get this machine performing better than I ever imagined possible - now reaching 70-80 frames in cyberpunk with all maxed settings (with dlss and some unofficial frame gen as well, no PT). The amount of effort you put into these videos is insane, especially the killer cinematic-grade visuals, and honestly the channel's criminally underrated. I hope you're able to keep creating far into the future, and I'm sure when I eventually get a new laptop (already considering the 2029 G16) this is where I'll be coming back to.
Loved the review! been looking forward to it for a while. Far better brakedown that than really any other review Ive seen. Thanks Josh for all the help you provided on reddit with answering my questions and troubleshooting flashing my BIOS.
absolutely best reviewer ever, as a producer i really appreciate you doing an audio benchmark too, and i think it would also be cool to see export times of the project file if time fits!
I appreciate your take on the fact that not everything a gaming laptop should be is max FPS or max performance and speaking out on other reviewers possibly giving out the wrong idea or impression about an item. I personally wanted an in between laptop where I had good gaming and portability, while also having good battery life, so I recently bought the 2023 G14 4080 (it was on sale, or else I would've gotten the 4090 - thanks to your in depth video!) You can consider me a viewer and a subscriber! Love your work :)
Amazing laptop review. Most reviews of this laptop are pretty basic. Yours is detailed, accurate and techy which I love! Subbed. Keep up the killer work! Oh yeah, and the speaker test with the speaker song was hilariously so good!
I just bought this laptop! It was on sale for $1,699.00 with the 4070 ultra-9 configuration. It has more than enough power to play triple-A titles and stays cool the WHOLE time. Battery life is 10hrs while on power saving mode. You wont regret it.
I'm really looking forward to the full review of the 2024 G14. The slimmer design is something that really stood out to me, and supposed decent battery for a gaming laptop as far as I've seen in other reviews. No other goes in depth as you, so keep it up!
Another Josh here, who craves Tech indeed. So much dedication to this review, especially for being a smaller channel comparatively. It's going to grow exponentially, just wait! Just bought the 2024 G16 4090 after my previous 9 year old laptop. This is what I was waiting for! Excellent review again. You have a new Sub!
Yeah I was personally tired of reviewers just reading out basic specs and running a few benchmarks then calling it without any other comparisons or data to actually give you an idea of what you're buying.
Instant subscribe from me! You nailed it. I own the G16 with a 155H and a 4070. Im also using G-Helper and thanks to you I found out about that GPU power slide. I can slide it to 105W + 20W boost. The 4070 is maxed out at 115W so thats kinda weird but the increase in perfomance is about 10% (quick tests in furmark). Anyway its a fantastic laptop. Thanks for the review
Thank you! And yeah thinking about it now, I guess that makes sense for the 4070 to max out at 115W because Nvidia’s voltage limit doesn’t really let you gain any performance beyond that really for the 4060/4070, maybe just barely
i have the 3-fan-model and the fan-noise in silent mode was definitely fixed with a bios-update. initially the fans were always running and in a quiet room you could hear them easily. nowadays they barely kickin at all in silent mode.
GREAT AND SUPER ACCURATE REVIEW!!! Im one of those who has tweaked my G16 to consistently get 12-13 hours of web browsing, emails and typing some word docs when I have a full charge. The MUX switch has a lot to do with it. The battery is so good I typically leave mine charged to 80% and get about 10 ish hours of use. If I go on a trip I charge to 100%.
That's awesome to hear! I knew it could definitely hit those higher numbers! I could just tell by when I was browsing how little battery it was using and I had only done the basics.
@@DZ-cq3gs biggest thing is getting rid of all Asus stuff completely and installing g-helper. Then permanently kill all Asus services. Set g-helper to silent mode and eco mode. Set windows poer plan to best efficiency always when unplugged. Tweak the power plan in the control panel to have processor minimum at 1% and maximum at 99%. Very important to set any web browsers to power saving and memory saving modes. Set Intel graphics command center to best efficiency. There may be more but doing this got me around 6.5-7 watt total power draw at 50% brightness.
@@DZ-cq3gs This should do it. 1. Uninstall all asus stuff and stop all services. 2. Install G Helper 3. Set G helper to eco and silent mode. 4. Set all your web browsers to power saver and memory saver (this is a big one) 5. Set windows power mode in settings to best efficiency 6. Modify the balanced power plan in the control panel to have a maximum processor state of 99% on battery and minimum of 1% on battery. Plugged in keep it at 5% and 100% min/max. 7. Limit your notifications that can come in. 8. In windows settings set battery saver to come on at 100% or Always. I think the default is 20% or something. 9. Set refresh rate to 60hz 10. Lower screen brightness to 50% 11. If you have the OLED version use dark mode and set all your apps to dark mode. 12. Make sure you have the latest updates and bios as the battery wasnt as good when I first got the laptop until I did some updates. 13. Kill any other services that may be running in the background that you dont need. 14. No keyboard lighting and no slash lighting. 15. Check your startup apps and disable anything you dont absulutely need to start when the computer starts.
Did I just find a gold mine of a channel!!?? Bro seriously this is so in-depth and this is something I would make if I could!! Optimizing the stock laptop to best by adjusting the fan curves and things like that are syrup on the pancake (cherry would have been an understatement). Cheers!!
You make amazing videos brother. In my opinion you are the most detailed laptop reviewer on RUclips!! Let me tell you why your videos are good. They're long but they feel short because every part is informative and entertainment.
I was skeptical about sitting down to a full hour laptop review, but you really delivered. Great review man. You may have swayed me towards this laptop.
@@JoshCravesTech Still thinking about what laptop to get. In G-helper, can you make a profile where the fans never turn on? And if so, do the fans actually stay off? The Legion I'm using right now has the option to set the fans off on the curve but it doesn't actually work, and I want to avoid that situation.
@@Reaper31292 yes, there is a build of G-Helper where the fans can be turned completely off, at your own risk. Obviously a terrible idea in Turbo mode or something, but if you have it at something like the default silent profile then it should be fine. And yeah I’m aware of that issue with Lenovo laptops. It’s super annoying. I’ve never had a Lenovo that could maintain actual zero fans.
@@JoshCravesTech Right, makes sense. I'd want a a profile with zero fans, turbo boost off, and maybe a 15/20w CPU max for doing productivity work. Much prefer the quiet and a nerfed CPU doesn't really affect my workflow.
Doesn’t look like it from what I’m seeing. There’s a chance that the upcoming “Pro Art” that they’re announcing in June could be the update to the Flow, but I don’t think that’s true. We’ll probably see a proper refresh for those next year
I HAVE PRETTY MUCH WATCHED ALL THE REVIEW VIDEO ON RUclips ABOUT THIS LATOP. NONE OF THE REVIEWERS SOUNDED GENUINE AND THEY WERE TOO SPONSORY- HEY LOOK WHAT I GOT HERE, COOL! . YOUR VIDEO IS AN ABSOLUTE GOLD MINE. SO DETAILED AND CUTS A LOT OF BS GOING AROUND THIS LAPTOP! THANKS . A quick question : I have heard it gets really hot on the keyboard when under load, is that true or another myth ?
@@jalpranjal thank you so much! And yeah the keyboard does not really get too hot, just about average compared to most other gaming laptops. Around 40C in the center and about 29-31C on the sides (WASD area), which is in line with most others I’ve tested.
By far the best, most thorough review of a laptop I’ve ever seen, not just of the g16/14. Thank you for addressing the common opinions shouted around by other reviewers, and cross referencing user experiences with other actual owners. More than earned a subscription.
Thanks a lot, bro, for clarifying the grain issue. Literally, every OLED device that came out in 2024 has this issue. My S24 Ultra has this issue, And now my iPad Pro M4 also has this issue. I don't know why all these panels have this issue. I think maybe it has to do something with the Anti-reflective properties.
Yeah, idk why hardly anyone has talked about that! Wonder if it’s something we’ll see resolved in the next gen of panels or if it’s just an inherent thing with this tech
Thank you for watching everyone! Please consider subscribing if you haven't already :)
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Also using this comment as a running note for updates/clarifications/edits that I will add to as needed.
1. The "VRAM modules" that I thought were left without thermal putty at 20:50 are actually the LPDDR5X RAM modules, which explains why there's no pad/putty on them, so that is actually normal.
2. There is finally a 32GB version of the 4070 model in the U.S.! Only bad thing is, it’s more expensive. But you get the fancy new AMD Strix Point CPU: www.bestbuy.com/site/6583376.p?skuId=6583376
3. I’m hearing that mid-year units (manufacturer date May 2024 in the info I was given) have tighter hinges with less wobble and trackpads with less rattle.
Is the AMD Strix Point CPU a better CPU?
@@thomasbitsch5488 We don't know yet. It will certainly be better than the current 8845HS of course, having more cores and a changed process, but we don't know if that will improve anything majorly like battery life, performance, efficiency, etc. Haven't seen any good data yet.
Do yo recommend The 4070 with 32gb model?
Its the only one that asus sell in my country
@@frankmejia6961 i own the model with a 4090, and let me tell you this PC is build so lovely. It might be better built than my old mac m1!
@@frankmejia6961 yes that’s a great configuration! I wish we had a 32GB 4070 model here!
Bro the laptop speaker test section.........
Your laptop testing should be the RUclips gold standard. No cap!
Thank you! Glad you liked it
That was awesome!
This guy is an expert
This is among the best laptop reviews I have ever seen. You go above and beyond and are EXTREMELY detailed in everything you inform us about. Please keep doing what you do. We need more tech creators like you.
Your review is even better than the laptop itself man. you're born to do this!! I love this review.
Haha, I appreciate that 😂
Same thoughts )))) I think its the best tech review overall )))
Honestly, I was searching for reviews of the g16 and ran across yours and just sat and got myself super educated thanks to your thorough and considered approach to reviewing. I’m now a subscriber.
Man, now this is a proper review! Thanks. I decided to buy this one after months of thinking over and over...
And how is it?
3:41 this right here is why this was the best video on this laptop, I never once saw a great size comparison like this!
Really appreciate that! I do that because I know how I am, I love a good visual comparison. Helps actually understand the true differences.
Clearly a lot of thought went into this review. The breakdown of performance with fan noise was fascinating. On every profile too. Insane data just on that one slide alone!
The VBIOS swap portion of this review threw me off. It really should have been its own video and not distract from the amazingly thorough review you did on the G16.
Thank you! And good point! I probably did dwindle on the vbios for too long, but I had so many people asking me about it that I just went full-send on that portion lol. Thank you for your comment!
I have the 4070 version. I love the screen, speakers, build quality, keys, battery life (when set to silent and integrated GPU). It does great in the games I play and although the fans do go kind of crazy while gaming, a headset tunes them out just fine. I can recommend.
@@michaelmoore9870 nice!
Doesn't this laptop have a soldered ram?
Hi, thank you for your comment. I'm planning to get a 4070 version I don't play at all I'm Data Engineer I just want how loud 📢 is sound noise?
@@paressh set it to silent and it will be silent.
@@Gojira7771 yeah
dude, I wanna like your video way more than just once! thank you.
Really appreciate it, thanks for watching!
This. This is the review I've been waiting for. There were so many points made by other reviewers that just seemed moot, and you really hammered in on the details that I've been curious about!! Subbed
LMAO THE SPEAKER TEST
Hahaha, thank you!!
Thank you so much for addressing the performance inconsistency issue claim, i am very interested in buying a G16, and this issue is the only issue which blocked me...
Absolutely! Glad that was helpful
This is the review I have been looking for! Great work
Much appreciated!
Absolutely STELLAR content! Especially the part for thermals! This is exactly what I wanted. A lot of creators tell us that thermals on the laptop are fine, but when we go on forums, everyone's complaining about thermals during actual use because their ambient room temps were a little different, or because thermals during benchmarks weren't (for whatever reason) representing thermals during gaming.
Being able to exactly see the thermals during a game helped a lot.
By the way, was Control on Low Settings throughout?
@@okdokie278 thank you!! Glad that was helpful. And Control was set to highest settings/QHD for GPU-bound results and then set to Low/FHD-ish for CPU-bound results
You are one of the only channels to go this deep on reviewing these laptops
I love that
Thank you!!
I got the G16 and G14 2024, and they are both great!
I kept the G14 as I love the portability for traveling and light unreal engine work!
Great review my man! Just subbed!
Yes, the G14's portability is unmatched! I totally get that.
I still think the M16 is the best. Loving my 2023 M16 w/4080. Your video was one of the reasons I bought mine. Keep up the detailed reviews!
That is undoubtedly a BEAST still. Love that laptop.
Looking forward to this review. This laptop is on my radar for sure!
It’s a good one!
Loll that speaker test was gold
Lol thank you!
NGL your laptop reviews are top notch, keep up the good work :)
Thx for the review! I will look into the other fan software that seems to be really good.
Just bought the G16 version with a 4070, and luckily with 32 GB RAM.
I agree that the screen wobble is okay, not bad or cheap. I really enjoyed it so far. The three things that I do not like (so much; minor stuff), is that blueish look of the OLED panel when light is hitting it, inconsitent fan noise in medium non-gaming utilisation (an external display seems to activate the nvidia gpu which cause the fan to kick in silent mode every 2 minutes. I created a profile which stops the third fan in med utilisation, but leaves on the fan at ultra low speeds, which works good), and lastly I prefer rough keycaps, these are kinda slippy. Generally this laptop is really awesome.
Yeah! I think if you tried the iGPU port (left side USB-C) then you wouldn’t have to worry so much about the GPU being active, but you just wouldn’t have Gsync, but yeah that’s good to hear that you’re enjoying the 4070!
@@JoshCravesTech Just tired it. This is really helpful. Thank you! The monitor still uses DVI-D and is manily for office tasks, so G-Sync won't matter by any means 😅
Good to hear!
Amazing review, you could not ask for a more comprehensive breakdown.
Thank you!
OMG it's the best review I've ever watched. Thanks a lot for this enormous amount of work.
Going to buy 4070 variant, from Russia with love! Peace 👋
P.S. this laptop speakers song is hilarious 😁😁👍
Thank you! Enjoy the laptop!
Great review, you convince me to go for it, although i went with the 4080, you should upload more often, channel has potencial to grow fast
@@d0itn0w thank you! You’re gonna love this beast. Definitely am trying to do more videos!
Yoo great video, and thanks for the shout-out ❤
Absolutely, thank you for the help!
Great review. I personally still prefer a thicker laptop and have possibility to use full 175W power of 4090 when needed (125 vs 175W in 4090 is huge performance loss) and use "silent" mode to play with about same performance as this G16 but with A LOT less loud fans because of better cooling. This G16 does not give me this possibility but it's still great laptop. I hope we will see 3nm CPU and GPU in Windows laptops and have more performance/less loud fans in case like this G16. This laptop is first step to this world.
I totally understand your take. That is a definitely cool use-case for larger laptops. While this does perform about like a full-powered 4080, it's nice to have about that level of performance in just the silent mode of a thicker laptop.
Great review. I am currently looking at getting the G14 or G16 and this definitely helped.
Definitely recommend also watching my G14 vs G16 video I just released if you haven't seen that one yet!
Maybe a bit late to the party, but the Optimus vs dGPU topic has been solved completly due to a Windows update. Jarrod has made a video about it. The Windows feature is called „CASO“
The review I was wating for !
Yes thank you!
Thanks for the in-depth review! I hope you will review the shit out of the Ryzen 9 (Strix Point) version of the Zephyrus G16 too.
Subscribed! :)
Appreciate it!!
Awesome review Josh! Can you review Lenovo legion 7i gen 9? Not so many review out there about this laptop
Yeah, I have a little comparison to it at the end in Final Thoughts there, it just doesn’t strike me as a great competitor when the G16 already exists. Except for the upgradeable RAM. But everything else about it is just… fine. It’s not a bad laptop by any means, it’s just bigger/heavier, has a power-hungry CPU that barely performs better than the G16’s, eats battery, discharges battery while gaming, has fewer tuning options, worse display, worse speakers. Again not a bad laptop, but it’s typically the same price as the G16 in the U.S., so it kinda lost my interest. If I got it on a good deal then I may review it though
This, is a good review. Very well done
Thanks a ton!
There was a n update of bios with got rid of his biggest complaint, fan noise in silent mode
Hoping a g14 2024 review is coming ! Love the content
Definitely on the way 🙂
@@JoshCravesTech how would you say the razer blade 2024 4070 32gb and the g14 2024 4070 32gb compare to one another the g14 obviously has the oled screen but what about everything else
@@dakotaconcepcion5398 I would not even consider the Blade 14 in 2024 to be honest. It was a great laptop when it first released a few years ago, but Razer has done nothing to improve it over the years. The G14 is miles ahead now. The Blade doesn't even have Advanced Optimus, so you have to reboot the laptop every time you want to use the mux switch. It's also bigger in all dimensions, heavier, more expensive usually, basic IPS panel, worse keyboard with shallow travel distance, bad speakers. The 140W GPU is also kind of a sham, because they know it will never actually hit 140W on that GPU, it only hits like 100W because it's a 4060/4070 anyway, so they perform about the same. And the G14 always wins in battery life. And software customization is much better on the G14, with a lot more control over fans, battery tweaks, temps, undervolting, etc.
@@JoshCravesTech I. Appreciate your input! Just ran cyberpunk on a friends blade 14 2023 and g14 2024 and the g14 was significantly hotter and hit less frames so just wasn’t sure your thoughts on it
@@dakotaconcepcion5398 Yeah, the Blade will win in frame rate and because it's thicker it will likely be a little cooler as well, but as long as the G14 isn't throttling then it should be fine. "Significantly hotter" makes me wonder if you have a defect though, because the temps should be fairly close. You should be seeing like 75-85C on the GPU and 78-90C on the CPU on the G14. And the difference in fps shouldn't be huge either. Maybe 5-10%. Also depends on the resolution you're running at. 1800p is completely unnecessary on the G14 and I don't know why they even went with that resolution. The first thing you should do is turn it down to 1600p in games for more fps and no difference in clarity.
I love Asus! they have the best customer service and RMA practices!
Hey great review, would def use this as reference material. I like the 'no BS' vibe. However, I'm on the fence, get the 2024 G16 4080 or wait for the new 50 series GPU? Thoughts? I don't neeeeeed a laptop right now, but I'm missing out on play time when I'm away on travel as my current laptop can't play Helldivers and similar.
Yeah, it'll be at least February next year before we see RTX 50 series, so that would be about 9 months that you'd have to wait depending on stock availability. If you can wait that long then absolutely do it because there will probably be some awesome improvements across the board. But if you need a laptop right now, then this is definitely one of the best around. You could also buy now and sell secondhand later, although you'll definitely come out losing a decent chunk of change going that route as it depreciates.
It's true about rtx4070 model that you dont need to run manual mode to increase performance. There is so little fps difference in running manual mode and so much more fan noise that it is just not worth it. To me, it is sad to see both balanced and turbo modes having 95-100 degrees CPU temp in games (I have core 7 ultra, rtx4070, 32gb model). Also my model shows very poor battery life, about 4 hours of web browsing with everything set to best battery life: windows best power efficiency mode, nvidia gpu turned off, silent mode in armoury crate and half the brightness - and it still consumes 20-25 watts. I blame windows for this, because my g16 came with DOS and I installed windows myself. I tried to minimize the effect of self installed windows by updating all drivers and reinstalling it twice, but it didn't help. If you have any idea why my unit has battery life 2.5 worse than every review on youtube please let me know.
Sometimes having hardware acceleration disabled in your browser can make things worse for battery if you did that. Check/disable any unnecessary startup tasks and background processes, use G-Helper. It should NOT be using 20-25W consistently on battery, that indicates a problem somewhere with your Windows or drivers or something. The 95-100C CPU is also not normal in games especially on the Ultra 7. Maybe if the CPU is using 50W or more then sure, but if it’s at like 35W or something then there’s no way it should be getting that high unless you have faulty Liquid Metal application from the factory!
It's always down to the legion 7 or zephyrus line for me. Both are excellent
Awesome review brother!
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent review! And it’s confirmed, the G14 4090 is an absolute gremlin.
Quite literally
Really great Video! I am interested in the G14 tho. I am now wondering wether the G14 can also run at more than the advertised 90W.
Good question! Yes, it can. I'll touch on it in the video, but I'll go ahead and spoil that it's 1000% not worth doing on the G14 😅 Although I set a world record, the temperatures went through the roof! It does NOT handle additional wattage well at all. But the previous world record was done by just a simple overclock, basically matching the Blade 14 at 140W, so all that extra wattage doesn't really get put to good use anyway.
Straight up masterpiece of a review. I bought the 4090 version and was a bit disappointed with the Armoury crate "bloatware" - I heard someone call it that haha. Tysm for the G-helper shoutout and walkthrough video you made - it has solidified my initial happiness with this product.
Question: Before downloading G helper (yesterday actually) my pc hit a temp. of 100 degrees on the CPU, is that acceptable? Do I need to be worried? I would like for this PC to last through the next 4 years of my education, so I do not want to overly stress this amazing machine when I'm just "playing" on it. Do I need to open it up and maybe check if ASUS assembled it correctly? (I'm not that tech savvy to already know how to do that, but I can learn if needed. :)
Again - I can't stress this enough: What a damn amazing review, thank you from the bottom of my heart for this hard work you've put into the review. (At 1:00:05 there is a typo "peakers" instead of "speakers".
Thaaank you for the review (I basically watched it twice, it was that good!)
Thanks for watching! Also thank you for pointing out the typo, good catch! But yeah, your CPU hitting 100C is actually normal. It will occasionally happen, and these CPU's are rated to go that high without problems. The Alienware X16 R2 for example pushes this exact same CPU to 102C even for extended periods. But most of the time, your CPU should be in the 80's or 90's. There is no problem with that as long as you aren't experiencing big/constant frame drops.
Hey Josh really nice video! I wanted to ask if power limiting the intel core ultra 9 (inside of G-Helper) would increase the battery life of the G16 or would it remain unaffected due to its efficiency. Keep up the effort and good work!
It probably wouldn't really affect it too much. I know some people swear by doing that but for me I feel like I get better battery life from just the stock Silent mode. Sometimes messing with CPU settings will end up having the opposite effect you're going for 🤣
@@JoshCravesTech Thank you so much for your response! I'm trying to find out some worthwile tweaks for just browsing, like disabling e or p cores. Ngl you videos made me purchase this beast, asus should pay you for this if they're not doing so already!👀
@@Jaime-Jr that’s awesome, lol I wish they would pay me 🤣
Hey man, I want a laptop for college and gaming, and I'm deciding between g16 4070 and 4080 models. 4070 model is 1k cheaper so I won't lose too much with 4080 and vapor chamber right? Also, does this laptop come with any bloatware (getting it at bestbuy), and are you optimistic with this laptop being future-proof? Thanks, great video btw
@@spaceman0808 the 4070 is unfortunately a pretty big dropoff in performance and a decent bit worse in temps. There’s about a 30-40% increase in fps from 4070 to 4080, it’s a lot! And the Vapor chamber does a really good job at taming that cpu especially, compared to the 4070 model. So the 4080 model I’d consider to be future proof. The 4070 model, not so future proof, but still good for a few years I’d say. And no, no bloatware other than what some people might consider bloat from Windows!
Could you pease review the lenevo ligion 7i 2024
Great video BTW, can't believe i just found this amazing channel.
The comparison to the 7i in my Final Thoughts chapter is pretty much the major differences between the two! But if I pick one up I might have to, I’m just really thrown off that they put an HX CPU in it, basically making battery life just… not that good :(
@@JoshCravesTech yeah but for me i need a max of 5.5 to 6 hours of battery life, rest of the time i will use the laptop pretty much always plugged in to the power. So i am Hanging on the cliff with this one as the legion also provides around 6 hours of battery in light work.
Also how much of power drop is there realistically, between 'i9-14900HX' and Ultra '9 processor 185H' for me as i would be using my laptop for After Effects.
@@shobhitkeshri8282 I would probably put money on it that most people would not notice the difference in performance between the two CPU’s especially at the lower wattage that the Legion runs it at. Those HX CPU’s need to be able to sustain 80W+ to show any benefit and that Legion is too slim to do that for such a power-hungry CPU so they end up performing about the same. But yeah, I’m not sure that even 6 hours would be possible with light tasks. Maybe it could be, but you’d have to definitely do some tweaks to get it there! Both would be great for After Effects though of course.
Microsoft has optimised Optimus with Cross Adapter Scan-Out (CASO) late last year, so there is less benefit of using MUX (needs verification). Also. regarding VBIOS swap, just a word of caution--not sure that VRMs on the mobo can handle such high wattage, might overheat...
How bad is the fan noise? I dont know if i should buy the 4070 g16 with 32gb ram
@@invictus4807 not bad at all, unless you’re coming from something as quiet as a MacBook. Fans are almost always off in silent mode though which is nice. Turbo can get up to around 50 dB, which is on par with most other gaming laptops
@@JoshCravesTech have there been updates on the "loud" fans? Is there a difference between now and 4 months ago? Because i see complainers on reddit saying its too loud when it came out, but now i dont see any current reviews about the loud sound (third fan).
@@invictus4807 yeah I address that in my latest video a little bit. There have been some critical bios updates that have improved fan behavior a lot
I just need it to be able to play baldur's gate 3😂
GOD of LAPTOP review.
Thank you!!
Really enjoyed your reviews. I got a question unrelated to the 2024 models but hope you could give some advice. I'm choosing between a g14 2023 4060 and a g15 2022 3080. The g14 is around 100 usd cheaper and I need this to run AI stuff. Which should I choose ?
Just responded to your other comment!
Love this review I really like my G16 4080!!! My only complaint is that google chrome is crashing nearly every time I use it.. any suggestions?
Try disabling hardware acceleration in Chrome. Or switch to Edge! Sometimes Nvidia drivers and Chrome don't play well
I liked the clip because you mentioned that it is not possible to upgrade the RAM
Yep, gotta call them out! If we had more options for 32GB and 64GB then sure, doesn't matter for 99% of people at that point, but having so few options for US buyers was not a good call.
@@JoshCravesTech I want to buy a new device, and I want it to accept a 64 RAM upgrade, which I need for cyber security
Advise me on a device
@@i_dazai 2023 Zephyrus M16 or Lenovo Legion 7i (2024). Both of those are great laptops with upgradeable ram. The Legion just won’t have as good of battery life
I have the 3 fan 4070 version and mostly i am also very happy. Speakers, build quality, display, performance. All awesome. What I do not like is yes the vapor chamber missing on the 4070, but the 500€ extra was not worth it and on silent i can not hear it unless the laptop sits on the bed and the intakes are covered. I have some trouble with armory crate and configutation for the lighting, smart charging etc. the 4 macro keys do not always work as I wish. I have troubles using virtual machines on my win11 which should be an issue of windows and not the zephyrus. What is most annoying is the lagging mouse pointer on silent mode. That is not due to reduced refresh rate as animations are still smooth while I dont have heavy tasks running. After some time moving the mouse it gets back to normal
That's good to hear! Yet another person with no issues with the 3 fans, it seems to be more common to have a good experience now than a bad one with the fans. However that is weird about the mouse pointer. It shouldn't be lagging like that. Make sure turbo boost isn't disabled or something in Silent mode. Intel CPU's do not do well with disabling turbo boost which slows everything to a crawl.
Great review. Subbing! Question. Looking for all around device for productivity like programming and video editing as well as gaming. Been looking at the G16, Legion 7i, Legion Pro 7, and Razer 16. Any suggestions? Maybe something I didn’t list? My problem with G16 is no upgrading ability to RAM or storage. I do love the battery life on the G16 though.
So I give a comparison to the Legion 7i (the pros and cons list) at 1:02:59 and Blade 16 toward the end there and I touched more on the Blade 16 in the design portion as well, and Display section. But yeah the Legion 7i is cool and all, but it's bigger in all dimensions, heavier, worse battery life, low color gamut display (not good for video editing!!), worse speakers, CPU runs hot, etc. so for your case I would not consider that one.
The Legion Pro 7i is great, but only the 2024 model has 100% DCI-P3 color gamut. The 2023 has a low color gamut so I'd automatically say no to that one for video. The 2024 model is good though, just VERY thick, heavy, loud, and bad battery life. They prioritize performance over all else, so everything is plastic, including the trackpad (I'm holding a grudge against them for that), speakers are bad, but they do at least have swappable ram.
The G16 has a second storage slot so you can add an extra m.2 in there, you can see it around 18:15 in the video. And if you buy the 32GB model then you're good for years. 16GB is still the "standard", but it might get a little restrictive in video editing for sure though, especially if the footage is 4K and you're doing other things like browsing.
The Blade 16 is pretty similar in build quality, is upgradeable, but it's quite a bit heavier and thicker, has terrible battery life, the CPU is not efficient, and it has nowhere near the amount of control over your power limits, thermals, fan noise, etc. The 2024 does have the same display though as the G16 which is nice, and the 2023 model has mini-LED which is also awesome. Of all of those options, I'd still go for the G16 but my 2nd choice would be the Blade.
@@JoshCravesTechReally appreciate that response. Think you just solidified my decision with the G16! Keep up the great work btw
What about the model with amd one? How much is the difference between them?
@@dilshansandhu2627 depends on which GPU. I have a review on the AMD on the way! The CPU is cool but it definitely doesn’t make up for the 4080/4090 even a little bit. Those GPU’s will still demolish in games
Hey Josh! Amazing video! You helped me seal the deal on getting my own Zephyrus. I wanted to ask how you keep cpu temps so low though? I've followed your g-helper settings, but when I enable any cpu boost, my cpu jumps to 95C when running any game. Some games I've been able to run without it, but it has caused notable fps drops during intensive parts. Any recommendations?
Do you have the 4060 or 4070 model? If so, the CPU seems to run noticeably hotter in those. If your Cinebench R23 score is hitting 18,000 or higher in multicore then it should be good thermally though, it’s just pushing itself as high it can get. Frame drops are kinda worrisome though, like maybe part of the Liquid Metal on the CPU is dry. Try limiting it to 25-30W PL1 and PL2
@@JoshCravesTech I’ve got the 4080. I’ve found that putting PL1 at 30 and PL2 at 80 keeps things running nice and around 85-90
I’m hitting around 14000 in time spy with turbo
@@EagleJack-kh7zt oh good yeah a wattage limit is a good idea. Lifting the back of the laptop, even an inch helps too. And what is your separate cpu and GPU scores on that Time Spy run?
@@JoshCravesTech Ill have to try to see what lifting the laptop does! Thanks for the tips! My GPU score is 14783 and CPU score is 11931 running on turbo with cpu boost enabled and default wattage limit.
The hinge is definitely quite wobbly when you are typing while having it on your lap. A person has to be a robot if they don’t make it wobble when on their lap 😂.
This looks amazing but I’m too hesitant to spend that much money when Asus’ warranty is apparently horrible.
Always buy through a 3rd party if possible! In the US we have Best Buy and Micro Center - your warranty/support through them will be 10x better than Asus. And it's not just Asus btw. Yes they need to improve, but I can't turn a blind eye to the hundreds of posts I see all the time on other laptop subreddits and forums with the exact same issues going on. Asus was just called out right now, you'll very likely see the same happen with others over the next year or so unless there is an industry-wide change. One positive light though is that Asus USA/Canada just put out today (May 25 2024) an action statement on their Twitter with plans moving forward to improve their process, so fingers crossed it improves.
I was planning on adding an SSD to this laptop do you recommend a thermal pad or a heatsink I'd it'll fit? If so any recommendations?
@@QuickDucks you can just use one of those cheap thermal pad/copper plate things on Amazon. Should fit just fine, and if it doesn’t then just remove the copper heatsink plate!
Rumors say that at Computex we will see amd version of zephyrus g16, i think it should be better then intel version.Would be cool If you make a video about differences between them.
Yeah, realistically I don't think the AMD model will be too much better, or even much different at all, at least not enough to make the average user want to exchange their current G16 for it, but I would love to be pleasantly surprised!
Hows the heating/temperature while playing games
Bro i am interested in the 4070 model can you make a dedicated just a 10-15min video on it??
I will probably not buy the 4070 model, as I tried to make as many comparisons to that one as possible based on specs, user reviews, and chatting with lots of people who own it! For performance differences, just look at the “Flow X16” in all my charts. It performs identically. Everything else is the same, just add 1-2 dB to fan noise and add maybe 3-5C maximum to temps. The 4070 model is also just barely thinner and lighter!
Thank-you for the reply!! I will check that out . A new subscriber from India 🇮🇳
Can you please do a comparison of Asus Xypher G16 (2024) vs Lenovo Legion 7i (2024)?
1:02:56 in the video covers basically all the differences I've found between the two! If you absolutely must have upgradeable ram, then the Legion is a great choice, but the G16 is a much more premium experience overall with more customizable software and tuning. I would opt for the G16 for the display and battery life alone.
Hey your video is a gem but i think you might wanna double check some stuff because on a quick research it seems that the yoga pro 9i does have an hdmi 2.1... so... I'm confused but watch out the informations you just gathered from people on internet VS testing yourself like you did with the g16. I think a fair video would be to review the yoga pro 9i just to be sure (specially with the claim of batterys and all at the end)
Thank you! Yeah so I could've elaborated there. Lenovo claims that it's HDMI 2.1 but it is not. Users have tested it and it only supports 4K/60Hz output, so it is actually HDMI 2.0. I only post these things if I see multiple reports, I never go off the word of just one person. Or if I do, I will ask them to send me pictures/screenshots to verify.
@@JoshCravesTech wow so you mean they are lying? That's... Not good.. thanks for the record.
@@bryce2fadeway yeah it could be a bug or just not have the bandwidth that it’s rated for, which would be pretty deceitful, yes. No problem though!
@@JoshCravesTech thanks for your reply. Makes more sense. If it wouldn't be for the price in france (3400$ for a... Rtx 4070..) and the latest Asus Warranty fiasco i wouldn't be so hesitant... Your opinion about that? (Warranty scam stuff)? Overall your review are something else. Prop's for the gigantic job!
@@bryce2fadeway Yeah that's super expensive! But yeah I think the Asus warranty stuff definitely needed to be called out, however it has gotten a bit out of hand, as many other regions get better support from Asus than the U.S. does. Also, the large majority of U.S. buyers buy Asus products through Best Buy or Micro Center anyways, who all have great warranties ad cover the product separately from Asus, so you never actually have to deal with Asus themselves. And I can't sit here and ignore the hundreds of posts on Reddit I see about other laptop manufacturers with the exact same issues going on. Those all need to be called out as well, and maybe they will eventually. It's the entire industry that needs to improve in the RMA department, not just Asus. But overall I feel it's a net positive to wake them up to improving processes, which it seems like they're already doing, and maybe others will follow.
I am confused also, but this is why I strayed more than once to other brands of laptops, I will never, never, ever buy a laptop with all onboard RAM, I will hesitate to purchase a laptop that has only one SODIMM slot, because you are stuck with the speed of the onboard RAM, so any MFG that has soldered RAM and non upgradable RAM I will NEVER purchase any laptop with this restriction, I will never compromise on this issue, as I did in the past and as I will do in the future!
While I don’t feel the same, I can certainly understand!
This is shocking for me to hear that you didnt find the soldered RAM to be an issue. To me this is the number one blunder on such a gorgeous laptop. Also they should have used an AMD chip for the CPU.
@@sunny_1515 there is an AMD model out now! And yeah 32GB of fast, low-latency ram hasn’t hindered me one time, even editing 4K video with tons of layers. Helps battery life too!
I mean sure it’s not the best thing in the world but if there are options then I’m fine with it. Like the 16GB 4070 model in the US is inexcusable, and not having a 64GB option. But LPCAMM is on the way to laptops soon so we’ll probably see that in 2025/2026
im looking at the g14 and g16 4070 32gb model (they sell 32gb ram in uk for 4070 g16) not sure which is better for all purpose gaming at home with option to take it out if needed
They will honestly both be about the same. The only major differences would be of course maybe like 5-10% more GPU performance from the G16 because the additional wattage and slightly lower resolution (1600p vs 1800p but they both look the same in person) and the higher refresh rate of 240Hz on the G16. The G14 is of course even more portable and lightweight though, so if that's important to you and you like a 14" display then go for the G14.
Other than the storage being 2TB vs 1TB do you think it's worth the extra $600 for the 4090 over the 4080 model?
I really want the Blade 16 but it's crazy expensive vs the G16. I'm a fan of both companies but Asus has a better package all the way around imo. I already have a 4090 rig at home so I don't care about FPS as much. I just want something portable with an OLED screen with nice speakers that could play games with great graphics, it doesn't need to be the best. I just don't want to spend so much on basically a non improvement CPU and GPU year if you know what I mean. 😊
My current labtop is a 2022 Flow X16 3060. I still love it even tho the GPU isn't the best. Everything else like build quality makes up for it. The IPS display with a glossy screen is better than most matte screens imo. Also I'm not a fan of mini LED screens. Had a monitor with it and it just isn't my thing even tho it's bright like crazy. OLED is the way to go imo for any displays. I got 2 TVs that are OLED and one of them is a QD-OLED. I can't wait for labtops to come out with QD-OLEDs though. That's when I will upgrade again. I subbed btw cause you're thorough reviews are pretty awesome.
The 4090 is not worth the extra $600 tbh. Unless budget just isn't a concern, I'd recommend the 4080. You're only losing out on maybe 10-15% fps at the most. I've seen the differences be as small as 5% in some games, so I don't think that permits an extra $600 😂
But yeah the Flow is an AMAZING laptop, and if they had a 4080/4090 version then it would probably still be my daily driver. It's just the 4060/4070 are SO far behind that it's almost laughable, and sad.
What about choosing between this one and Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i Gen 9 (2024) ??
What would you choose and recommend?
Watch the Final Thoughts section, I go through all the differences between the two
@@JoshCravesTech Went through the final thoughts twice as I thought I missed something the first time, but it seems there is only a very light spec based comparison and some small extra details.
During my research for my next laptop I've considered the Yoga Pro 9i (with the RTX 4070 option) model after watching Just Josh review of this Zephyrus G16 laptop (the model with RTX 4080) and his review of the Yoga Pro 9i. He showed issues with the fan noise and temperatures with the Asus model.
There is also the price difference (in Europe), where Zephyrus G16 is €3,300 while Yoga Pro 9 is €2,600, I personally think it is a lot.
Consider all this would you still choose Zephyrus G16 over Yoga Pro 9?
Btw, really nice review and very detailed covering many interesting details for this laptop!
I am also deciding between legion yoga pro 9i and g16 2024 (4070 variants). I can say that i have watched lots of reviews but still indecisive. My main usage will be programming hence i have built desktop pc for gaming etc. I will be happy if you share what you conclude up buying.
Just Josh also acknowledged in his latest video that the G16 fan noise is not as bad as he initially reviewed, I guess thanks to a bios update. His Yoga review is a little… idk, after watching more reviews from actual users and messaging people, I compiled that list. Worse battery life, worse balanced mode, fan noise is higher in performance mode on the Yoga, fan noise in general is VERY similar on both in Silent/Balanced mode, temps are also very similar on both, but that CPU gets up to 100C+ on the Yoga. However, either way I wouldn’t say thermals are an issue at all on either one. People are experiencing battery discharge on the Yoga when gaming, no HDMI 2.1 is unacceptable to me, and no ports tied to the dGPU at all is just odd, worse speakers. Also Yoga is bigger in all dimensions and heavier. To me that’s just too many cons when the G16 is actually cheaper here in the US! But in your case the Yoga is significantly cheaper so it might actually be worth it for you 😅
@@JoshCravesTech Really appreciate your input and comparison on this topic. When you put it like that, Zephyrus G16 seems to be better than Yoga Pro 9i. The only downside is the price diff in my area. I think I'll keep an eye on the prices for a few days and see how things go and try to go with the one from Asus if I notice a price drop, if not I'll go with the Lenovo.
For my purposes (mostly programming), I think both will do pretty well.
Thank you.
Real talk, this RUclips page is a hidden gem. The amount of data collection, testing, effort, etc is second to none. Insane!
Seriously appreciate it, thank you. Trying my hardest out here to cover things the others don’t!
@@JoshCravesTech Bro you’re welcome forsure, please don’t ever change! You’re a gamechanger in the Tech review industry and we’ve been needing this 🙌
@@WhipItSBreezy thanks but i think ill be like most tech web/forum i used to read, have nothing to inform eventually, but ofc glad to have helped people, think most feel same
dude made a song to review the speakers, like the video is a must
Haha, thank you!
the hidden gem channel of premium gaming laptops! got an 2023 g14 4090 because of your vid. This 2024 g16 4090 is also soooo tempting.
It is very tempting, not gonna lie. I still daily drive the G14 but it broke my heart to return the G16. Can’t wait to see what they do in 2025!
I have the same 2023 G14 4090 just like you. We might as well wait for the 5090 that's coming either later this year or early next year.
@@FakeReal007 exactly!
@@FakeReal007 should be in 2 years not next year.
Unless theyre skipping lower ends one somehow
4050-4090 desktop should be released next year. Like what happened in the past it would be a year after desktop is released
@@amirulizzat2114 maybe not this year but def next year. There's already news about it.
dang a whole movie as a review
Going for a feature film, trying for the Oscars next
keep up the good work. i love these long reviews like that i dont have to spend half my time actually looking for reviews. it also allows for more detailed descriptions instead of just repeating the same key features over and over across different videos
Thank you for watching!! Appreciate the comment 😁
I remember pouring over your content before (and after) getting my 2021 G15. Your optimisation guide and later, vbios guide were incredibly well done and have helped me get this machine performing better than I ever imagined possible - now reaching 70-80 frames in cyberpunk with all maxed settings (with dlss and some unofficial frame gen as well, no PT).
The amount of effort you put into these videos is insane, especially the killer cinematic-grade visuals, and honestly the channel's criminally underrated. I hope you're able to keep creating far into the future, and I'm sure when I eventually get a new laptop (already considering the 2029 G16) this is where I'll be coming back to.
Really appreciate this comment, thank you for continuing to support the channel! Glad you're still enjoying the G15, that is still an amazing laptop!
Loved the review! been looking forward to it for a while. Far better brakedown that than really any other review Ive seen. Thanks Josh for all the help you provided on reddit with answering my questions and troubleshooting flashing my BIOS.
Thank you!!
absolutely best reviewer ever, as a producer i really appreciate you doing an audio benchmark too, and i think it would also be cool to see export times of the project file if time fits!
Ah I like that idea! Sadly I already returned the new G14 or I'd do it with that one, but I will definitely do that with future laptops.
@@JoshCravesTech Thanks! :)
I appreciate your take on the fact that not everything a gaming laptop should be is max FPS or max performance and speaking out on other reviewers possibly giving out the wrong idea or impression about an item. I personally wanted an in between laptop where I had good gaming and portability, while also having good battery life, so I recently bought the 2023 G14 4080 (it was on sale, or else I would've gotten the 4090 - thanks to your in depth video!) You can consider me a viewer and a subscriber! Love your work :)
Exactly, thank you!! Some people don’t get it, lol. But yes great choice! The g14 is still my daily driver, such a good laptop
I'm still worried about asus qc and reliability throughout the years. Will it hold up like a macbook?
You are THE BEST when it comes to these laptop reviews,keep it up man.
I appreciate that, thank you so much!
Amazing laptop review. Most reviews of this laptop are pretty basic. Yours is detailed, accurate and techy which I love! Subbed. Keep up the killer work!
Oh yeah, and the speaker test with the speaker song was hilariously so good!
Thanks a ton! 👍
I just bought this laptop! It was on sale for $1,699.00 with the 4070 ultra-9 configuration.
It has more than enough power to play triple-A titles and stays cool the WHOLE time.
Battery life is 10hrs while on power saving mode.
You wont regret it.
Hello
You got 16 gb ram ?
@@Dalwinder_Singh_ Yes. I have the rtx 4070 as well.
I am also considering buying it but is 16 gb enough ?
And also how much avg fps do you get in games ?❤
I'm really looking forward to the full review of the 2024 G14. The slimmer design is something that really stood out to me, and supposed decent battery for a gaming laptop as far as I've seen in other reviews. No other goes in depth as you, so keep it up!
Another Josh here, who craves Tech indeed. So much dedication to this review, especially for being a smaller channel comparatively. It's going to grow exponentially, just wait!
Just bought the 2024 G16 4090 after my previous 9 year old laptop. This is what I was waiting for!
Excellent review again. You have a new Sub!
Thank you fellow Josh! Enjoy that beautiful laptop!
No other channel gives all the detail you really need before dropping $2K-$4K on a laptop these days
Yeah I was personally tired of reviewers just reading out basic specs and running a few benchmarks then calling it without any other comparisons or data to actually give you an idea of what you're buying.
Hell yeah man, same, keep it up!
Instant subscribe from me! You nailed it. I own the G16 with a 155H and a 4070. Im also using G-Helper and thanks to you I found out about that GPU power slide. I can slide it to 105W + 20W boost. The 4070 is maxed out at 115W so thats kinda weird but the increase in perfomance is about 10% (quick tests in furmark). Anyway its a fantastic laptop. Thanks for the review
Thank you! And yeah thinking about it now, I guess that makes sense for the 4070 to max out at 115W because Nvidia’s voltage limit doesn’t really let you gain any performance beyond that really for the 4060/4070, maybe just barely
Happy with mine
This is how you do it. Love the dedication man
Appreciate the comment, thank you!
i have the 3-fan-model and the fan-noise in silent mode was definitely fixed with a bios-update. initially the fans were always running and in a quiet room you could hear them easily. nowadays they barely kickin at all in silent mode.
Nice! Yeah a lot of people were concerned but the majority of what I’m hearing now is what you just said
Bro 😮 I love the speaker test section!
GREAT AND SUPER ACCURATE REVIEW!!! Im one of those who has tweaked my G16 to consistently get 12-13 hours of web browsing, emails and typing some word docs when I have a full charge. The MUX switch has a lot to do with it. The battery is so good I typically leave mine charged to 80% and get about 10 ish hours of use. If I go on a trip I charge to 100%.
That's awesome to hear! I knew it could definitely hit those higher numbers! I could just tell by when I was browsing how little battery it was using and I had only done the basics.
How did you do it bro
I too would love to know what tweaks you did for ultra battery life
@@DZ-cq3gs biggest thing is getting rid of all Asus stuff completely and installing g-helper. Then permanently kill all Asus services. Set g-helper to silent mode and eco mode. Set windows poer plan to best efficiency always when unplugged. Tweak the power plan in the control panel to have processor minimum at 1% and maximum at 99%. Very important to set any web browsers to power saving and memory saving modes. Set Intel graphics command center to best efficiency. There may be more but doing this got me around 6.5-7 watt total power draw at 50% brightness.
@@DZ-cq3gs This should do it.
1. Uninstall all asus stuff and stop all services.
2. Install G Helper
3. Set G helper to eco and silent mode.
4. Set all your web browsers to power saver and memory saver (this is a big one)
5. Set windows power mode in settings to best efficiency
6. Modify the balanced power plan in the control panel to have a maximum processor state of 99% on battery and minimum of 1% on battery. Plugged in keep it at 5% and 100% min/max.
7. Limit your notifications that can come in.
8. In windows settings set battery saver to come on at 100% or Always. I think the default is 20% or something.
9. Set refresh rate to 60hz
10. Lower screen brightness to 50%
11. If you have the OLED version use dark mode and set all your apps to dark mode.
12. Make sure you have the latest updates and bios as the battery wasnt as good when I first got the laptop until I did some updates.
13. Kill any other services that may be running in the background that you dont need.
14. No keyboard lighting and no slash lighting.
15. Check your startup apps and disable anything you dont absulutely need to start when the computer starts.
Did I just find a gold mine of a channel!!?? Bro seriously this is so in-depth and this is something I would make if I could!! Optimizing the stock laptop to best by adjusting the fan curves and things like that are syrup on the pancake (cherry would have been an understatement). Cheers!!
Really appreciate the comment! Thank you!
Dang that speaker test song goes hard
You make amazing videos brother. In my opinion you are the most detailed laptop reviewer on RUclips!! Let me tell you why your videos are good. They're long but they feel short because every part is informative and entertainment.
Really appreciate this comment, thank you!
I was skeptical about sitting down to a full hour laptop review, but you really delivered. Great review man. You may have swayed me towards this laptop.
Really appreciate that, thank you for watching!
@@JoshCravesTech Still thinking about what laptop to get. In G-helper, can you make a profile where the fans never turn on? And if so, do the fans actually stay off? The Legion I'm using right now has the option to set the fans off on the curve but it doesn't actually work, and I want to avoid that situation.
@@Reaper31292 yes, there is a build of G-Helper where the fans can be turned completely off, at your own risk. Obviously a terrible idea in Turbo mode or something, but if you have it at something like the default silent profile then it should be fine.
And yeah I’m aware of that issue with Lenovo laptops. It’s super annoying. I’ve never had a Lenovo that could maintain actual zero fans.
@@JoshCravesTech Right, makes sense. I'd want a a profile with zero fans, turbo boost off, and maybe a 15/20w CPU max for doing productivity work. Much prefer the quiet and a nerfed CPU doesn't really affect my workflow.
This might just be your masterpiece. The work that went into this review is insane. Are we getting an x16 or M16 this year though?
Doesn’t look like it from what I’m seeing. There’s a chance that the upcoming “Pro Art” that they’re announcing in June could be the update to the Flow, but I don’t think that’s true. We’ll probably see a proper refresh for those next year
In the end of the video ,the comparison between the Laptops helped me in buying decision … u made it easy man .. u rock !!
Thank you! Glad that helped out :)
This channel is going to blow up in the laptop review space. Happy to have stumbled upon it before it does :) Good stuff!
Hope so! Thank you for watching!
I HAVE PRETTY MUCH WATCHED ALL THE REVIEW VIDEO ON RUclips ABOUT THIS LATOP. NONE OF THE REVIEWERS SOUNDED GENUINE AND THEY WERE TOO SPONSORY- HEY LOOK WHAT I GOT HERE, COOL! . YOUR VIDEO IS AN ABSOLUTE GOLD MINE. SO DETAILED AND CUTS A LOT OF BS GOING AROUND THIS LAPTOP! THANKS . A quick question : I have heard it gets really hot on the keyboard when under load, is that true or another myth ?
@@jalpranjal thank you so much! And yeah the keyboard does not really get too hot, just about average compared to most other gaming laptops. Around 40C in the center and about 29-31C on the sides (WASD area), which is in line with most others I’ve tested.
@@JoshCravesTech so I believe I can use it in my lap to watch RUclips and do very very light 1080 editing and it won't burn my pants?
By far the best, most thorough review of a laptop I’ve ever seen, not just of the g16/14. Thank you for addressing the common opinions shouted around by other reviewers, and cross referencing user experiences with other actual owners. More than earned a subscription.
@@joe4780 really appreciate this comment, thank you!
Thanks a lot, bro, for clarifying the grain issue. Literally, every OLED device that came out in 2024 has this issue.
My S24 Ultra has this issue,
And now my iPad Pro M4 also has this issue.
I don't know why all these panels have this issue. I think maybe it has to do something with the Anti-reflective properties.
Yeah, idk why hardly anyone has talked about that! Wonder if it’s something we’ll see resolved in the next gen of panels or if it’s just an inherent thing with this tech
Is strange bro cuz i hace the s24 ultra and the screen is just perfect