Mint , Basil, and lemon grass , mosquitoes hate these plants, so I always plant around our pouches, we have several ponds and a acre lake so definitely helps ,love that you have bats thou , absolutely beautiful natural pool
Haha well actually I used all of the sand to build some privacy barrier walls further into my forest garden. I will show that in another video. That was quite a job, transporting it all out there. Around 150m3 uncompressed!
Thank you for the dedicated step by step video. It helped me clarify a rew things others didn't because perhaps they felt it wasnt needed. But you had lots of imformation. Tank you. I can now eas;y start mine soon.You should add a video of the hoses you used for the buuble system and air pump also figuration you attached them
thanks for the feedback! coming spring I will make new videos documenting things a bit more, so keep tuned :) Curious about yours, I hope you share it here as well.
Many thanks for the video! Could you add in the description details as the size of the pool: total area, swimming zone, regeneration zone, with also the different depths of both the bathing area and the regeneration area. Thanks!🍃
Turned out beautiful 🤩 So much work (both on the pond and the video too). Thanks for all the previously answered questions here in the comments. Just wondering how you get in and out of the pool. Do you plan a dock or ladder of some sort? Hope to see an update next year on the planned waterfall and to see how the plants look over time.
Thanks for the comments! I plan to make a jetty that I can dive off and also attach a small ladder to. But currently I just walk over the gravel to the wooden edge and dive off that. That also enables me to get back out again without a problem. I will make an update video in the spring for sure, when all the plants hopefully grow much larger and it will be interesting to see also how it kept over the winter. The air circulation system should help to keep it ice-free.
Thank you! Do you mean the plant selection and layout plan? Or the system as a whole? Or did you mean plants instead of plans? :) The plants I got from a local webshop here in NL.
@flairmaister I meant the system as a whole. I've done some research and before I commit to starting the project I want to gather as much info as possible to make sure I do it right the first time.
@@unknownhuman5507 right, look up the videos of David Pagan Butler here on RUclips, I am basically following his system with some small changes that suit better to my situation. Also look up Berry IJmker, his method is also based on David's. I spent a few months drawing and collecting info as well, and I came quite close to my original budget in the end. The digging was a huge job though!
it is necessary to make more of a regeneration zone with plants so that it makes a circle and returns to the pond with the main pool, otherwise the water will most likely bloom
Without fish it will be a mosquito breeder, unless he puts those mosquito bits. If he adds a uv light to the pump or filter will never have green water.
@@Sea-cucumber1151 there is no need to invent anything, everything has been invented for a long time)) a reaction zone with a certain number of plants with a strong root system and, for example, stones of a certain fraction, this is a natural filter that will make the water clear and odorless even with fish)
Thank you! It looks very different right now in December. Most of the growth died off, and I have tried to keep the falling leaves out to limit the amount of rotting. I will make an update video some time this winter
When you do an update please if you have any knowledge of converting an already existing pond into a swim pond tell us. I have about an acre pond but needs to be drained & cleaned by digging back out a lot as 3 sides have slowly began to erode into it & the other side is a damn with trees needing removed & a few have died leaving hold from the roots. It does have a fresh water flow into it from a spring but nothing strong just enough to keep the water fresh & fish from tasting muddy. I’d love to have it landscaped on 2 sides for shallow & plants. It might be too big of a project but since going to redo anyway might be okay to add a swim area?? There is another small pond but it’s not in need of draining or fixing & seems to have more snakes.
Hi all, apologies for the slow response, but I have a spring video in the making of how the pond looks after winter. Looks like not all plants survived but otherwise the pond is full of life and the brown frogs have laid their first round of eggs as well. You can also follow me on Instagram where I post more often: instagram.com/flairmaister/
I used cylinder air stones like one uses in a large aquarium which causes the air to bubble up in a nice evenly fashion in smaller bubbles. This pushes the water up as well and so water circulation is happening via the connected drainage tubes. I am using a 65W Aquaforte air pump / compressor which is on most of the time, but goes off when I run the water pump that sucks water into the skimmer and out the other side of the pond where I still plan to make some sort of waterfall.
C'est très sympa d'avoir partagé votre savoir faire merci et quel courage. Il y a plusieurs sortes de panneaux Falk lequel avez-vous utilisé et comment tiennent-ils au démarrage du positionnement. Les sous-titres sont indisponibles sur cette vidéo pourquoi ?
In the fall I try to remove them every week or so with both a net on a pole as well as a skimmer, you can see this at 14:53 I also removed a hazelnut brush nearby this spring which gave most of the leaves, so that is one less source of organic matter falling in. However it can never be kept out 100%. It's part of the normal natural cycle, and the plants in the pond do need some nutrients or they wouldn't grow at all. As long as the worst is fished out, it's not really a problem for me. Some wire algea will always come in the spring, feeding off the excess organic waste matter, but this has mostly disappeared later in the summer. I will show how this looks in my next video that I'm editing now.
How is the pond doing? It's been a while now :) Also, aren't you worried about the wood that's in the water, or is it possible to replace it eventually? Thanks
the pond is okay, waking up after winter now, the water is still clear and haven't had to power the airlift compressor on yet so far, as the temperature is still low. The wood in the water should last at least 20 years. As long as it stays under water it will decay only very slowly.
Put in a uv light in the pump filter area, you will never have peace soup green water. The green moss around the plants is excellent and good for the pond. If not regular fish put some mosquito fish to help keep the mosquitoes down or the mosquitoes bits that have a bacteria to kill thru. It won’t kill the flying ones but will kill any larvae and completely safe for humans, animals and plants.
UV will kill everything, and costs a lot of power. Also I don't have a pump filter, the 30 thousand kilos of gravel are what is hosting the microbes that filter the water naturally. The only thing I add is extra air during the warmer months using the compressor, but that costs a minimum amount of power and can be turned off for half the year. Right now in the middle of winter the water is still crystal clear without the need for any pumping or artificial filtering. As for the mosquitos, the frogs, bats and other water insects such as beetles take care of those mostly. I had almost none. This will get better in coming seasons as the ecosystem balances itself out.
@@flairmaister ha ok , je ne savais pas qu'on pouvait prendre des panneaux sandwich de toiture , pour les mettre dans un bassin, les panneaux ne risquent pas de rouillé a la longue ?
Great work, I really admire your effort! I also plan my pond following David’s design. I found your substrate barrier build quite interesting… I just didn’t get how you fixed the vertical beams without cutting the liner or with sealing? My other question is how the epdm liner is glued or sealed?
By vertical beams do you mean the short pieces that hold the boards together? I build the barrier all on top of the liner, and those beams are only 40cm high, so they don't extend into the side, if that's what you are thinking. It all sits on top of the 10cm sandwich panels + ground underneath. The EPDM liner is not glued or sealed, I ordered it as one large piece that has been glued together already in the factory. Then I folded it in as neatly as I could and simply cut away the excess material around the edge before covering it again with the drainage system and gravel. I hope this answers your questions, let me know if not.
Hello. Nice clip . Thanks for sharing . I have a question though. At the end of the clip some bats were mentioned as having a feast of the pond's mosquitoes. Isn't the air filtration sistem a method of not creating conditions for mosquitoes? Because the water surface is continuously moving isn't supposed that the mosquitoes can lay eggs and hatch ?
yes and no :) the airlift does cause a surface that isn't still, but there are still many critters that live in and on the water, such as dragonflies (many this year), beetles of all kinds, and surface insects that I don't know the English names for. So plenty to eat for the bats. I also think that there may be a few small pockets where the water moves less, such as in between the irises and other bigger plant formations. I also have a much smaller pool nearby that has no airlift or other circulation system, and there's probably mosquitos coming from that one.
Thank you! About €14k including the labor cost for the man with the mini digger, the rent for the wheel loader and all the transport costs for the materials.
thanks, it is sometimes also like a dream when I'm in it, I still almost can't believe I made this :) It cost approximately €14k including everything, I could have done it a little cheaper one some things, but it was my first time.
the black 110mm PVC pipes are used to guide and accelerate the air bubbles upward which in turn causes water to be pushed up and circulated through the gravel. The air stones are at the end of the tubes that have the air flow through into the bottom of the pipes.
the compressor I have run 50% of the time (day and night, on 5 min, off 5 min with a WiFi socket) after the air temperature goes above 10 degrees Celsius. It uses 65W In the winter it's turned off completely. The water pump I only run when there is a lot of leaves / blossom / debris from the trees on the surface, to catch it in the skimmer. That one uses 135W.
they are all connected together with a 16mm irrigation hose, and they are right outside of the swim zone, next to the wooden barrier. I didn't see any advantage of putting them 15cm further through the barrier, it would also take away swim space.
@@flairmaister ok thank you so you're only aerating water in regen zone? Would be beneficial to lift deep water from zone, unless your swim zone is sumping into regen zone. Would be nice to see a basic flow diagram :)
@@738rh I'm not sure what benefit it would have to lift water from the deepest section in the swim zone, other than perhaps getting a better temperature distribution, as nothing is growing down there and there is also no gravel on the bottom, that is only in the filter / plant zone. But please elaborate. As for the flow, every pipe is about 80cm tall and connects to an 4m drainage tube in a loop sitting on the bottom of the filter section and there are 8 of those. Hope that clears up how it's done?
@@flairmaister I would believe for water quality, oxygen aeration and circulation. Would it not also increase beneficial bacteria etc? Deep stagnant still water is never good :)
@@738rh maybe, sure, but it is always a trade-off. To put the pipes in the swim section along with the compressor feed tube will be a significant change and will also take away swim space. What I do: regular swimming, also causes water movement. And there's lots of life swimming around as well such as salamanders.
Do the bubble pumps work ok? They dont seem to be j the swin zone so how does tbe deep water there get moved into the plant zone? Your way seems to just circulate water from the bottom of the plant zone to the top. Also yoir gravel looked quite dusty whenit was being delivered. I thought washed gravel was needed forna swim pond. Did the dirty gravel not cause any problems?
The bubble pumps work excellent, the water went from algae pea soup where I couldn't see more than 10cm into the water to crystal clear where I could see the bottom of the pond (2.3m) within 2 weeks after I installed the pumps and dumped the gravel in. It is correct that the water circulates mostly inside the plant zone, that's where the oxygen has to mostly end up to keep the microbes living on the gravel aerobic. The rest of the water will be cycling through as well at some point (also by swimming), but the main point is the oxygen supply and this works perfectly. Gravel will always be dusty. Sure you can rinse it off but it wasn't a problem in the pond. The sediment just sinks to the bottom of the plant zone where the gravel is anyway,.
the total cost was just under €14 thousand. I had to rent the mini shovel several times which was costly as I also had to have it bring and pick up by the rental company. The digger was owner by the guy who I rented for about 8 Saturdays in total (so included in excavation cost). This was the total budget in EUR: item costs --------------------------------- excavation 2,520 machine rental 1,345 sandwich panels 2,349 delivery of panels 178 corner profiles 45 lower U-profiles 338 upper U-profiles 200 underlayment 578 EPDM foil 2,310 mortar 20 curbstones for edge 206 wood for partition 450 water pump + skimmer 200 PVC pipes 110 55 air drainage 100mm 251 drainage T-pieces 92 drainage PVC reducer 69 drainage edge 80mm 126 drainage blind 80mm 99 tyleen 16mm 100m 60 tyleen couplings 43 tape / kit / screws, etc. 100 air pump 129 air stones 158 substrate / gravel 1,746 water plants 250 ---------------------------- total 13,916
Thanks for that impressive description. Those owning machinery will save a lot. No leasing/transport/ labor. And if remove soil can be reuse elsewhere, it´s an other expense cut. Really nice work. How cold are your winter ? I´m on the other side of the big blue, and bad winter can hit - 30. Usually more in - 15, - 20 with clay soil. Roughly an oval shape with filtering vegetation in the "pointed" area, about 5 feet or 1m50 deep with a central island higher, thanks to removed soil. Island will be perfect with friends, barbecue and grapewhine for shade. Big leaves are probably easier to remove and an easily plant that can be cut as it grows. Frost fence all around for kid and wildlife safety and some access to get out. You never know with raccoon, fox, rabbits, squirrels. Nobody want a swim to find a floating or sink animal in it. 2m wide around the island seems OK. That´s a lot of water to pour and keep clear. No chlorine or salt will be used. Well, that´s a distant plan, but my small 23 HP tractor and backhoe will highly cut on cost construction.
those are steel-plated PIR sandwich panels that one would normally use to build the walls of a workshop / garage. I got them "B choice" for a good price. Besides being strong, another advantage is that it gives some insulation. I could also have laid them on the bottom for further insulation, but I also wanted to have the pond stay cooler during hot summer days.
Did you use tap water to fill the pond? I know DPB recommends rainwater harvesting but I want to be swimming in my pond come the summer and even in the UK I don’t think we’ll have enough rain to fill it!
This is in the central east part of The Netherlands, yeah there is mostly sand in the ground here. It's a slightly elevated part of the country because of that. It has the great advantage that there is no groundwater to worry about. And thanks :) I will make some more videos on further progress and improvements, and the filtering system
Ah yes - THESE were my neighbors from the 70's that were both doctors from Yugoslavia and had 2 five-year old sons that never had a haircut and could outplay everyone in soccer.
@@flairmaister think about it as you where in the middle of building this you go on vacation and a bad storm happens showing you a future problem. If you finished building this then a bad storm happened all that dirt would have washed into your newly build pool. God showed you this problem so you could adjust your design precisely when you need to fix it.
@@flairmaister I have moments like this that happen in my life as well. Moments that others would curse gods name for their misfortune. I thank god for showing me what needed to be done. Best of luck out there
yes, the hoses on the right side still need hiding, as that side also still needs more gravel. That will come next spring. I gave the garden around the pond a break this year, as driving the wheel loader takes a heavy toll on the soil and grass. It was also handy to have them exposed during the experimental phase, as I wasn't sure yet where I wanted to feed in the compressed air and where to place the waterpump and its exhaust. I'm going to be moving the latter over to a smaller pond about 1.5m higher, to create a waterfall into a stream into the big pond.
The edge is too steep you need a 30 degree angle going down 1 meter 1 meter in length this to avoid using so much gravel when the rain comes all that soil will end up in your pond.
1:1 would be 45 degrees. Mine is about 1:2 and this is about 25 degrees, so less steep than 30 even. I would have gone even wider but I had to work within the available space. I wanted 3m for swimming and that left about 2m on each side for the filter section as I had about 7m width available in total. The soil does not end up in the pond as there is a 30cm deep trench dug all around it with a drainage pipe inside and then gravel on top. This has been tested many times in very heavy rain already and it works perfectly. Watch the video to the end and you will see.
Se fosse no BRASIL precisaria pagar LICENÇA AMBIENTAL! Depois receberia visitas diárias da POLICIA MILITAR AMBIENTAL para exigir o pagamento de propina!
So I have a question about this type of ponds, is there a risk of infection with the brain eating amoeba that lives in ponds, lakes and steady waters in general around the World?
what's the name of this organism? is it a fungus? bacteria? I have never heard of this. But my water is clean, drinking water quality, at least as far as I have been able to test for particles and pH.
@flairmaister Naegleria Fowleri, a brain eating amoeba, with 98% mortality rate, there is no treatment. Another disease is Bilharzia, a parasitic worm. I have been looking for information about these and other risks of infections in these natural pools, and what I have found is that there is low risk of infection as long as you don't let many people swim in the pool, only your family, because these type of natural pools are not recommended as public pools, and use a UV light and H2O2 peroxide. What I don't know is if the UV filter also kills the "good" microorganisms of the pool.
this was my first edit ever, but I'll try that on the next one. Maybe you can also run a compressor on your own device to make it less stressful to you?
Not sure what you mean by ring of gravel, but if you mean the outer edge, how would you have done it instead? Also note that it will be invisible in 1-2 years as short plants and grasses will then have taken hold in it. It's still a relatively wet area as that's where the overflow drainage sits.
Great looking pool!
Mint , Basil, and lemon grass , mosquitoes hate these plants, so I always plant around our pouches, we have several ponds and a acre lake so definitely helps ,love that you have bats thou , absolutely beautiful natural pool
I'm loving the outfits the flip-flop the shorts to work belt to hat the scarf I'm loving it
that's half my festival outfit :)
It looks like a lot of sand for the neighbors to level their yards. Giving credits to David Pagan Butler, big fan.
Haha well actually I used all of the sand to build some privacy barrier walls further into my forest garden. I will show that in another video. That was quite a job, transporting it all out there. Around 150m3 uncompressed!
Thank you for the dedicated step by step video. It helped me clarify a rew things others didn't because perhaps they felt it wasnt needed. But you had lots of imformation. Tank you. I can now eas;y start mine soon.You should add a video of the hoses you used for the buuble system and air pump also figuration you attached them
thanks for the feedback! coming spring I will make new videos documenting things a bit more, so keep tuned :) Curious about yours, I hope you share it here as well.
Unsure at first but this is one of my favourite, a swim deck would be cool
yes, I have a deck in mind as well, just need to find the time in between all the other projects :)
I am months from building a replica of this but constructed differently.
Nice pine.
Very nice.
And nice clip.
Thanks! Please share what you will build somehow if possible, always curious about other people's version of a natural swimming pond
Looks amazing. Well done
Amazing work bro! Looks great! Thanks for sharing!
It will be very useful for many of us if you can share how the filtration system works. Great looking pond. 👌
Sure, perhaps I should make a separate video on that?
@@flairmaister that would be lovely!
Will there be a video?
Love to see an update on you pond 12 months after construction.
I am working on a new video from how things progressed over the last year, I will probably publish it in the early fall.
@flairmaister good work. I would also like to see an update. Thank you!
Tip: white sand on the bottom. So you can see alligator before jumping in….
Great job
Love it.
TY for sharing!!! God Bless!!!
May you increase in wisdom. Great job 👍
Ziet er goed uit, leuk filmpje
Dankjewel, zonder jou zou ik er nooit aan begonnen zijn.
good job!
Many thanks for the video! Could you add in the description details as the size of the pool: total area, swimming zone, regeneration zone, with also the different depths of both the bathing area and the regeneration area. Thanks!🍃
thank you for the feedback, I have added some info as requested in the video description. Let me know if there's more you would like to know.
Turned out beautiful 🤩
So much work (both on the pond and the video too). Thanks for all the previously answered questions here in the comments. Just wondering how you get in and out of the pool. Do you plan a dock or ladder of some sort? Hope to see an update next year on the planned waterfall and to see how the plants look over time.
Thanks for the comments! I plan to make a jetty that I can dive off and also attach a small ladder to. But currently I just walk over the gravel to the wooden edge and dive off that. That also enables me to get back out again without a problem.
I will make an update video in the spring for sure, when all the plants hopefully grow much larger and it will be interesting to see also how it kept over the winter. The air circulation system should help to keep it ice-free.
awesome job mate, well done! u can come to do my garden next! 👍🏻👍🏻
Ha, thank you! Where are you located? :)
Very beautiful pond! I plan to build one myself this coming summer. Where did you get the plans for the filtration for your pond?
Thank you! Do you mean the plant selection and layout plan? Or the system as a whole? Or did you mean plants instead of plans? :) The plants I got from a local webshop here in NL.
@flairmaister I meant the system as a whole. I've done some research and before I commit to starting the project I want to gather as much info as possible to make sure I do it right the first time.
@@unknownhuman5507 right, look up the videos of David Pagan Butler here on RUclips, I am basically following his system with some small changes that suit better to my situation. Also look up Berry IJmker, his method is also based on David's.
I spent a few months drawing and collecting info as well, and I came quite close to my original budget in the end. The digging was a huge job though!
@@flairmaister thank you very much!!!
it is necessary to make more of a regeneration zone with plants so that it makes a circle and returns to the pond with the main pool, otherwise the water will most likely bloom
As long as you don't put fish in it the daphnia will take care of any blooms and the pond will quickly find its balance
Without fish it will be a mosquito breeder, unless he puts those mosquito bits. If he adds a uv light to the pump or filter will never have green water.
@@Sea-cucumber1151 there is no need to invent anything, everything has been invented for a long time)) a reaction zone with a certain number of plants with a strong root system and, for example, stones of a certain fraction, this is a natural filter that will make the water clear and odorless even with fish)
@@Sea-cucumber1151 just like an experienced aquarist, ideally add constant oxygen pumping)
Dyticus will eat mosquito larvaes
very nice
You did a great job!! I really enjoyed watching your process, how is the pond looking today?
Thank you! It looks very different right now in December. Most of the growth died off, and I have tried to keep the falling leaves out to limit the amount of rotting. I will make an update video some time this winter
@@flairmaister Can you share a photo or should I wait for the update video? I’m so curious to see how the winter affected the look
great job!
动手能力很强啊，非常不错。以后可以更美观一些，把那些管子藏起来。
谢谢你，我同意，管子还需要一些工作（现在正在进行中）
When you do an update please if you have any knowledge of converting an already existing pond into a swim pond tell us. I have about an acre pond but needs to be drained & cleaned by digging back out a lot as 3 sides have slowly began to erode into it & the other side is a damn with trees needing removed & a few have died leaving hold from the roots. It does have a fresh water flow into it from a spring but nothing strong just enough to keep the water fresh & fish from tasting muddy. I’d love to have it landscaped on 2 sides for shallow & plants. It might be too big of a project but since going to redo anyway might be okay to add a swim area??
There is another small pond but it’s not in need of draining or fixing & seems to have more snakes.
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Hi all, apologies for the slow response, but I have a spring video in the making of how the pond looks after winter. Looks like not all plants survived but otherwise the pond is full of life and the brown frogs have laid their first round of eggs as well. You can also follow me on Instagram where I post more often: instagram.com/flairmaister/
Very nice, well done. Can u explain the air stone in the pipes, which air pump u used etc.
I used cylinder air stones like one uses in a large aquarium which causes the air to bubble up in a nice evenly fashion in smaller bubbles. This pushes the water up as well and so water circulation is happening via the connected drainage tubes.
I am using a 65W Aquaforte air pump / compressor which is on most of the time, but goes off when I run the water pump that sucks water into the skimmer and out the other side of the pond where I still plan to make some sort of waterfall.
thought that looked like a dutch house then the accent threw me but then I saw the 'te huur' sticker and the sandy soil haha
you guessed right, and not that much sandy soil in NL, but around here there is plenty :)
Rhine river gravel. That tells you where it is.
C'est très sympa d'avoir partagé votre savoir faire merci et quel courage.
Il y a plusieurs sortes de panneaux Falk lequel avez-vous utilisé et comment tiennent-ils au démarrage du positionnement.
Les sous-titres sont indisponibles sur cette vidéo pourquoi ?
@flairmaister How do you manage leaves as you have trees around? One of my biggest concern.
In the fall I try to remove them every week or so with both a net on a pole as well as a skimmer, you can see this at 14:53
I also removed a hazelnut brush nearby this spring which gave most of the leaves, so that is one less source of organic matter falling in. However it can never be kept out 100%. It's part of the normal natural cycle, and the plants in the pond do need some nutrients or they wouldn't grow at all.
As long as the worst is fished out, it's not really a problem for me. Some wire algea will always come in the spring, feeding off the excess organic waste matter, but this has mostly disappeared later in the summer. I will show how this looks in my next video that I'm editing now.
How is the pond doing? It's been a while now :) Also, aren't you worried about the wood that's in the water, or is it possible to replace it eventually? Thanks
the pond is okay, waking up after winter now, the water is still clear and haven't had to power the airlift compressor on yet so far, as the temperature is still low. The wood in the water should last at least 20 years. As long as it stays under water it will decay only very slowly.
Put in a uv light in the pump filter area, you will never have peace soup green water. The green moss around the plants is excellent and good for the pond. If not regular fish put some mosquito fish to help keep the mosquitoes down or the mosquitoes bits that have a bacteria to kill thru. It won’t kill the flying ones but will kill any larvae and completely safe for humans, animals and plants.
UV will kill everything, and costs a lot of power. Also I don't have a pump filter, the 30 thousand kilos of gravel are what is hosting the microbes that filter the water naturally.
The only thing I add is extra air during the warmer months using the compressor, but that costs a minimum amount of power and can be turned off for half the year. Right now in the middle of winter the water is still crystal clear without the need for any pumping or artificial filtering.
As for the mosquitos, the frogs, bats and other water insects such as beetles take care of those mostly. I had almost none. This will get better in coming seasons as the ecosystem balances itself out.
Bonjour comment s'appelle les blocs que vous avez mis sur tous les contours au fond du bassin , merci beaucoup
ceux-ci sont appelés panneaux sandwich (panneau sandwich), et j'ai utilisé la version en acier plaqué de 10 cm.
@@flairmaister ha ok , je ne savais pas qu'on pouvait prendre des panneaux sandwich de toiture , pour les mettre dans un bassin, les panneaux ne risquent pas de rouillé a la longue ?
Mooi gedaan, waar heb je alle informatie vandaan om dit zo mooi aan te kunnen leggen?
Great work, I really admire your effort! I also plan my pond following David’s design. I found your substrate barrier build quite interesting… I just didn’t get how you fixed the vertical beams without cutting the liner or with sealing? My other question is how the epdm liner is glued or sealed?
By vertical beams do you mean the short pieces that hold the boards together? I build the barrier all on top of the liner, and those beams are only 40cm high, so they don't extend into the side, if that's what you are thinking. It all sits on top of the 10cm sandwich panels + ground underneath.
The EPDM liner is not glued or sealed, I ordered it as one large piece that has been glued together already in the factory. Then I folded it in as neatly as I could and simply cut away the excess material around the edge before covering it again with the drainage system and gravel.
I hope this answers your questions, let me know if not.
@@flairmaister yes, thanks so much!
@@larpad1 I can send you some pictures if you want
Weow. Nice job!
What are those panels if I may ask?
Yes Also curious
100mm steel plated PIR "sandwich" panels, these things are often used for building entire workshop walls. B choice so cheaper than usual.
@@flairmaister Great! Thank you
@@alexe1563 this is where I got mine: antosbouw.nl/product/b-keuze-wand-sandwichpanelen/
Hello. Nice clip . Thanks for sharing .
I have a question though. At the end of the clip some bats were mentioned as having a feast of the pond's mosquitoes. Isn't the air filtration sistem a method of not creating conditions for mosquitoes? Because the water surface is continuously moving isn't supposed that the mosquitoes can lay eggs and hatch ?
yes and no :) the airlift does cause a surface that isn't still, but there are still many critters that live in and on the water, such as dragonflies (many this year), beetles of all kinds, and surface insects that I don't know the English names for. So plenty to eat for the bats.
I also think that there may be a few small pockets where the water moves less, such as in between the irises and other bigger plant formations. I also have a much smaller pool nearby that has no airlift or other circulation system, and there's probably mosquitos coming from that one.
It look amazing, how much did it cost you?
Thank you! About €14k including the labor cost for the man with the mini digger, the rent for the wheel loader and all the transport costs for the materials.
Great job! Question at 18:06 - are all those airlift loops tied together or 8 independent systems?
they all come from a single small (65W) compressor, still a lot cheaper than running a water pump for this size
looks like a dream! what was the cost of the build?
thanks, it is sometimes also like a dream when I'm in it, I still almost can't believe I made this :) It cost approximately €14k including everything, I could have done it a little cheaper one some things, but it was my first time.
Wow, u say cheaper and i thought it was around 30k 🥹. It makes me so happy - i could afford it myself. Thank you!
Ey i remember this song but from where?
at which minute?
@@flairmaister In the very start
What are the pipes used for and where is the Air stone placed.
the black 110mm PVC pipes are used to guide and accelerate the air bubbles upward which in turn causes water to be pushed up and circulated through the gravel. The air stones are at the end of the tubes that have the air flow through into the bottom of the pipes.
@@flairmaister Thank U
Looks awesome.
How much power do the pumps and air compressors use? Are they running 24/7?
the compressor I have run 50% of the time (day and night, on 5 min, off 5 min with a WiFi socket) after the air temperature goes above 10 degrees Celsius. It uses 65W In the winter it's turned off completely. The water pump I only run when there is a lot of leaves / blossom / debris from the trees on the surface, to catch it in the skimmer. That one uses 135W.
@@flairmaister really helpful info. Thanks.
Are your airlifts connected together or individual? And are they plumbed into the main swim zone?
they are all connected together with a 16mm irrigation hose, and they are right outside of the swim zone, next to the wooden barrier. I didn't see any advantage of putting them 15cm further through the barrier, it would also take away swim space.
@@flairmaister ok thank you so you're only aerating water in regen zone? Would be beneficial to lift deep water from zone, unless your swim zone is sumping into regen zone. Would be nice to see a basic flow diagram :)
@@738rh I'm not sure what benefit it would have to lift water from the deepest section in the swim zone, other than perhaps getting a better temperature distribution, as nothing is growing down there and there is also no gravel on the bottom, that is only in the filter / plant zone. But please elaborate.
As for the flow, every pipe is about 80cm tall and connects to an 4m drainage tube in a loop sitting on the bottom of the filter section and there are 8 of those. Hope that clears up how it's done?
@@flairmaister I would believe for water quality, oxygen aeration and circulation. Would it not also increase beneficial bacteria etc? Deep stagnant still water is never good :)
@@738rh maybe, sure, but it is always a trade-off. To put the pipes in the swim section along with the compressor feed tube will be a significant change and will also take away swim space.
What I do: regular swimming, also causes water movement. And there's lots of life swimming around as well such as salamanders.
Do the bubble pumps work ok? They dont seem to be j the swin zone so how does tbe deep water there get moved into the plant zone? Your way seems to just circulate water from the bottom of the plant zone to the top.
Also yoir gravel looked quite dusty whenit was being delivered. I thought washed gravel was needed forna swim pond. Did the dirty gravel not cause any problems?
The bubble pumps work excellent, the water went from algae pea soup where I couldn't see more than 10cm into the water to crystal clear where I could see the bottom of the pond (2.3m) within 2 weeks after I installed the pumps and dumped the gravel in.
It is correct that the water circulates mostly inside the plant zone, that's where the oxygen has to mostly end up to keep the microbes living on the gravel aerobic. The rest of the water will be cycling through as well at some point (also by swimming), but the main point is the oxygen supply and this works perfectly.
Gravel will always be dusty. Sure you can rinse it off but it wasn't a problem in the pond. The sediment just sinks to the bottom of the plant zone where the gravel is anyway,.
Did you buy washed gravel or just standard gravel?
Can we see the pool now?
It's coming ;-) I made new videos a while ago, just have to find time to edit and publish here.
About what was the cost with you doing the work & did you already own the tractors & other equipment or rent them?
the total cost was just under €14 thousand. I had to rent the mini shovel several times which was costly as I also had to have it bring and pick up by the rental company. The digger was owner by the guy who I rented for about 8 Saturdays in total (so included in excavation cost). This was the total budget in EUR:
item costs
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excavation 2,520
machine rental 1,345
sandwich panels 2,349
delivery of panels 178
corner profiles 45
lower U-profiles 338
upper U-profiles 200
underlayment 578
EPDM foil 2,310
mortar 20
curbstones for edge 206
wood for partition 450
water pump + skimmer 200
PVC pipes 110 55
air drainage 100mm 251
drainage T-pieces 92
drainage PVC reducer 69
drainage edge 80mm 126
drainage blind 80mm 99
tyleen 16mm 100m 60
tyleen couplings 43
tape / kit / screws, etc. 100
air pump 129
air stones 158
substrate / gravel 1,746
water plants 250
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total 13,916
Thanks for that impressive description.
Those owning machinery will save a lot. No leasing/transport/ labor. And if remove soil can be reuse elsewhere, it´s an other expense cut.
Really nice work. How cold are your winter ?
I´m on the other side of the big blue, and bad winter can hit - 30. Usually more in - 15,
- 20 with clay soil. Roughly an oval shape with filtering vegetation in the "pointed" area, about 5 feet or 1m50 deep with a central island higher, thanks to removed soil. Island will be perfect with friends, barbecue and grapewhine for shade. Big leaves are probably easier to remove and an easily plant that can be cut as it grows. Frost fence all around for kid and wildlife safety and some access to get out. You never know with raccoon, fox, rabbits, squirrels. Nobody want a swim to find a floating or sink animal in it. 2m wide around the island seems OK. That´s a lot of water to pour and keep clear. No chlorine or salt will be used.
Well, that´s a distant plan, but my small 23 HP tractor and backhoe will highly cut on cost construction.
@@flairmaister The hanks so much. RUclips didn’t let me know you responded but luckily I checked back.
Are those just SIP panels or is it a pool kit?
those are steel-plated PIR sandwich panels that one would normally use to build the walls of a workshop / garage. I got them "B choice" for a good price. Besides being strong, another advantage is that it gives some insulation. I could also have laid them on the bottom for further insulation, but I also wanted to have the pond stay cooler during hot summer days.
Excellent...Love your channel@@flairmaister
Did you use tap water to fill the pond? I know DPB recommends rainwater harvesting but I want to be swimming in my pond come the summer and even in the UK I don’t think we’ll have enough rain to fill it!
Can we have an update
soon I hope, when the weather gets better and some plants are starting to come up with the spring sun. It's been a lot of rain over the past months.
What are the walls made of?
10cm steel plated sandwich panels ("B choice").
Where is this? So much sand. You deserve many more subs.
This is in the central east part of The Netherlands, yeah there is mostly sand in the ground here. It's a slightly elevated part of the country because of that. It has the great advantage that there is no groundwater to worry about.
And thanks :) I will make some more videos on further progress and improvements, and the filtering system
Ah yes - THESE were my neighbors from the 70's that were both doctors from Yugoslavia and had 2 five-year old sons that never had a haircut and could outplay everyone in soccer.
Funny how god can show you a problem right when you needed to fix it? Perfect timing as always
not sure what you mean there..?
@@flairmaister think about it as you where in the middle of building this you go on vacation and a bad storm happens showing you a future problem. If you finished building this then a bad storm happened all that dirt would have washed into your newly build pool. God showed you this problem so you could adjust your design precisely when you need to fix it.
@@daneking1209 ah, you mean when the heavy rain came? Yes, you can see it that way :)
@@flairmaister I have moments like this that happen in my life as well. Moments that others would curse gods name for their misfortune. I thank god for showing me what needed to be done. Best of luck out there
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Nice pond, but aren't you gonna hide all the hoses ? That makes it look a bit unfinished
yes, the hoses on the right side still need hiding, as that side also still needs more gravel. That will come next spring. I gave the garden around the pond a break this year, as driving the wheel loader takes a heavy toll on the soil and grass.
It was also handy to have them exposed during the experimental phase, as I wasn't sure yet where I wanted to feed in the compressed air and where to place the waterpump and its exhaust. I'm going to be moving the latter over to a smaller pond about 1.5m higher, to create a waterfall into a stream into the big pond.
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Что такое рибка?
@@flairmaister fish
ah, no, as they give too much nitrates@@Mikhaylyuk.Y.U
I forgot the gloves
Cool undies
i will walled the swimming section with natural stone ......... and also the floor
should have got those Asian blokes to do it. They would have got it done in half a day using a spoon and made a funky youtube video as well.
Narural?
The edge is too steep you need a 30 degree angle going down 1 meter 1 meter in length this to avoid using so much gravel when the rain comes all that soil will end up in your pond.
1:1 would be 45 degrees. Mine is about 1:2 and this is about 25 degrees, so less steep than 30 even. I would have gone even wider but I had to work within the available space. I wanted 3m for swimming and that left about 2m on each side for the filter section as I had about 7m width available in total.
The soil does not end up in the pond as there is a 30cm deep trench dug all around it with a drainage pipe inside and then gravel on top.
This has been tested many times in very heavy rain already and it works perfectly. Watch the video to the end and you will see.
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So I have a question about this type of ponds, is there a risk of infection with the brain eating amoeba that lives in ponds, lakes and steady waters in general around the World?
what's the name of this organism? is it a fungus? bacteria? I have never heard of this. But my water is clean, drinking water quality, at least as far as I have been able to test for particles and pH.
@flairmaister Naegleria Fowleri, a brain eating amoeba, with 98% mortality rate, there is no treatment.
Another disease is Bilharzia, a parasitic worm.
I have been looking for information about these and other risks of infections in these natural pools, and what I have found is that there is low risk of infection as long as you don't let many people swim in the pool, only your family, because these type of natural pools are not recommended as public pools, and use a UV light and H2O2 peroxide.
What I don't know is if the UV filter also kills the "good" microorganisms of the pool.
Naegleria Fowleri, a brain eating amoeba, with 98% mortality rate, there is no treatment.
Another disease is Bilharzia, a parasitic worm.
Naegleria Fowleri, an amoeba, and Bilharzia, a parasitic worm.
I've been trying to answer your question, but youtube keeps erasing my comments, I don't know what is happening
It looks like you can only take like 10 strokes before you get to the end
Depends on your technique, but sure, it's not an olympic swimming pool. I am thinking about getting a swim elastic though.
Interesting video but your whisper and disco don't go well together, the sound levels are very stressful. Please equalize before publishing.
this was my first edit ever, but I'll try that on the next one. Maybe you can also run a compressor on your own device to make it less stressful to you?
Not a fan of the ring of gravel.
Not sure what you mean by ring of gravel, but if you mean the outer edge, how would you have done it instead?
Also note that it will be invisible in 1-2 years as short plants and grasses will then have taken hold in it. It's still a relatively wet area as that's where the overflow drainage sits.