Introduction to Natural Pools
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- This is a Natural Pools 101. If you know nothing about Natural Pools, then this is a great place to start. What is a natural pool? How does it stay clean? What are the benefits of natural pools over chlorine pools and do they have to look like ponds? We will give a concise overview of all these questions in this video.
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What about snakes ???? 🐍
@@horseshill Natural pools and ponds can attract wildlife, including snakes, depending on various factors such as geographic location, surrounding habitat, and the presence of suitable food sources and shelter. While natural pools and ponds may attract snakes, it's essential to remember that snakes are generally shy and prefer to avoid human contact. Taking precautions such as keeping the area around the pool clear of debris, maintaining a well-groomed landscape, and educating yourself about local snake species can help minimize encounters with snakes and create a safe and enjoyable outdoor environment. Additionally, if you live in an area with venomous snakes, it's crucial to be aware of their presence and take appropriate precautions to reduce the risk of snake bites.
Remember though. There is no greater risk of snakes or dangerous wildlife in a natural pool than there would be in say a pristine mountain pool or lake. The exception is if you live in an area that is devoid of much life, such as arid areas or a desert. Your natural pool would then be an oasis for wildlife including snakes.
@@leafandstone.naturalpools thankyou for the in depth reply, once you think about it, its really common sense ❤️
Thanks a lot for your informative reply.
Hello,
I leave in a place with to much rain and.I.want to enjoy my pool all the year, so we decided to to an indoor pool. Can we do a natural pool indoor?
I had a natural pool during 10 years (in France), but I finally gave up because, despite my amazing efforts and investments, water quality was never satisfying for swimming. I end up sadly concluding that you cannot "win" with natural/biological filtering against algae who have 1 million year experience of surviving in the toughest environments.
Chlorine is your only real friend if you want to swim in clean water.
It saddens me that you had such a frustrating experience. I do assure you however that it is possible. I know this because I have built at 50+ natural pools which all work and this doesn't include all the pools other people have built using my consultation. Do you ever consult a professional?
@@leafandstone.naturalpools I consulted many professionals, but not you I agree.
My swimming pool had great hydraulic (50 m3/h total flow for a 75 m3 pool, 110 mm diameter pipes), 2 parallel filtration systems: 20 m3/h on one low pressure system with drum filter+biological/helix+UV 150W and 30 m3/h on one high pressure system with vortex + big UV 180W + Ozone ! And even peroxyde when needed.
And it was not enough ... despite lovingly adding good bacteria, carefully replacing UV lamps and tirelessly making huge cleaning effort ... not enough.
Outside summer periods it was quite acceptable, but in the swimming season (about 30 degree Celcius outside) it was green, and green, and green. And the dead algea would even make unremovable stains on my beautiful tiles.
I regretfully gave up after 10 years of desperate fighting. I accepted my defeat against the algea. I emptied my pool and cleaned it with chloric acid to remove the ugly enormous black stains. I kept the hydraulic, kept the mechanical filtering (added one sand filter though), kept the UVs and Ozone and injected previously hated chlorine (low dose though thanks to all the rest), and now I have a fantastic swimming pool.
Note well that I agree wtih all the mentionned benefits of a natural pool, it is simply that I never managed to ensure water beauty sufficient to enjoy swimming.
But good luck to the others, if you manage to do it I can only congratulate you.
@@stephdechatillon6591 If I may add something. As far as I know the only natural way to deal with algae is to have the plants outperform it for nutrients. You also may have gotten a spike in algae in the summer because there was more direct sunlight hitting the pool and the algae had a chance to grow. Maybe adding a shade over the pool, or increasing the amount of plants could have solved the problem? But Im no expert, so feel free to correct me.
I hope to see natural swimming pools become the new standard!
Too cold
@@tequilla1shot861not here in Florida or Puerto Rico and quite refreshing when hot and cold plunge pools healthy and are becoming very popular.
This is a snapshot into the future of humanity
Probably the multi millionaires of humanity 😅. It's very beautiful though.
never heard of a natural pool, and now im sold!
The pools you showed in this video are stunning! If we ever have a property big enough, a natural pool is 100% on my list of things to build!
You can also get them smaller!
yes, we have made 2m x 2m natural swimming pools!
Excellent video. My natural pool is 4 years old now and it has performed better than I expected.
Please make a video about it!
I have a few coffee vids lined up but a pool vid is on my list.@@schweinehund3497
Please, tell me do you have mosquitos? If yes - how you eliminate them?
@@user-rc5gi6ke1x Haven't seen 1 mosquito larva in 4 years. To be honest I was a little concerned before I built it but the water is being circulated and filtered constantly and it seems that is enough.
@@user-rc5gi6ke1x Natural pools do not have mosquitoes for a number of reasons. Mosquito larvae need still stagnant water in order to breed. Stagnant water has very low dissolved oxygen and natural pools have good levels of dissolved oxygen from plants, movement and life. You see, constant movement and circulation of the water prevent the larvae from surviving. Natural pools also have predators that feed on mosquito larvae. Among them are the Notonectidae, popularly known as backswimmers, and the aquatic beetles (Ditiscidae). Larvae of dragonflies and damselflies also hunt mosquito larvae.
That floating conversion system is gold!
Thank you for sharing,.
Insane the lack of subs you have, this video was amazing, natural pools seem like a really cool idea that I have never heard of before, definitely going to keep up with you channel. Keep up the amazing work ❤
Thank you so much! Only just getting started so plenty more to come!
I second this comment!!! Your channel is destined to explode 🙏❤
Thanks for this. I want to try swimming in a natural pool. They're beautiful!
You should!
This is so awesome. The moment i saw sketch in intro i knew it will be good.
GRAN PRESENTACION. DESDE LONDON. THANK YOU
I live on a very snake prone area so what would be some recommendations or advice if I wanted a natural pool without inviting dangerous wildlife into it?
Saving this one! Natural pool is the way I want to go at my next property. Thank you for this amazing informative video 🙏🏼
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for sharing. Was wondering whether you are in South Africa, and then I heard the hadida.
Amazing, discovered your channel at the most opportune time. I bought a home with a swimming pool and looked at converting until I saw the costs involved. But you have given me inspiration to continue. thank you
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Such a dream for me!
I really hope you get some business out of this atleast
This video is SO WELL MADE!
Maybe make a few shorts if you havent already to get ya name out there!
Love it!!😊
One of the best explained video out there. Also you could not have chosen a better background sound effect than the one you chose. It’s perfect. Most natural pond videos have a disco club music in the background and it’s annoying .
Thanks for the video. I will subscribe and hope for more vids
aah... thanks. I'm so glad you got value out of this. I love what I do and love making this content.
Beautiful
Nice video i like being more natural.
Have you had any experience doing something similar at high altitude? I was planning to do something like this in the future, but what stops me is that I live at an altitude of 1300 meters. I always thought it might be harder to keep the entire ecosystem alive in the winter when it can get really cold, like -4 to -5 degrees.
To asses water quality I would add some alges that only found in clean non contaminated water they will dynamically show water quality without test.. Adding a few parasite eating animals could be great tıo.
Come to Kerala , You can see Kolam , It is in Kerala .
This is an amazing video! I'm currently living in the Yucatan peninsula where the weather is very very hot and I wonder if there could be any danger from unwanted pathogens or bacteria. I have to do some research on which plants are native and I could use since there are literally no lakes in the whole state, only underwater sinkholes.
It's crucial to understand the risks of parasites in tropical natural pools. Two primary concerns are Naegleria fowleri, or "brain-eating amoeba," and schistosomiasis (bilharzia), both found in warm freshwater. Naegleria fowleri can cause severe brain infections but is exceedingly rare, with a reported risk of 1 in 142 million. Schistosomiasis is transmitted by parasitic worms facilitated by freshwater snails, particularly in warm climates where water temperatures exceed 27°C. The disease can be a concern in pools filled with water from sources where bilharzia is endemic.
To mitigate these risks, if converting an existing pool, ensure it includes a sand filter, ideally upgraded with glass filtration medium. Regular circulation of the pool's volume, combined with a UV filter, significantly reduces the chances of parasitic infections. Additionally, biweekly treatments with 30% Hydrogen Peroxide can virtually eliminate any risk, as it destroys parasites while oxygenating the water. Though some beneficial microorganisms may be lost, most will remain in the wetland area.
@@leafandstone.naturalpools thank you, I appreciate the info. I'm very very interested in building one of these from scratch. These are almost unheard of, everyone has a chlorine pool which I hate but I admit that when the heat hits 110 or more, then a pool is tempting. Your work is awesome!
Will future videos / workshops cover strategies for different climate zones? I’m in Phoenix, AZ and worry about water temps in the summer.
Absolutely, future videos and workshops will definitely cover strategies for natural pools in different climates, including hot areas like Phoenix. Managing water temperatures during the summer can be challenging, but there are several techniques and designs that can help keep your natural pool at a safe and comfortable temperature. Natural Pools are possible in very hot, tropical climates but It's crucial to understand the risks of parasites in tropical natural pools. Two primary concerns are Naegleria fowleri, or "brain-eating amoeba," and schistosomiasis (bilharzia), both found in warm freshwater. Naegleria fowleri can cause severe brain infections but is exceedingly rare, with a reported risk of 1 in 142 million. Schistosomiasis is transmitted by parasitic worms facilitated by freshwater snails, particularly in warm climates where water temperatures exceed 27°C. The disease can be a concern in pools filled with water from sources where bilharzia is endemic.
To safegaurd agaiinst these risks a UV strerlizer is a requirement. Additionally, biweekly treatments with 30% Hydrogen Peroxide can virtually eliminate any risk, as it destroys parasites while oxygenating the water. Though some beneficial microorganisms may be lost, most will remain in the wetland area.
@@leafandstone.naturalpools thank you for the detailed response!🙏🏼
looks really cool. Can you tell me more about what you should look out for, like if you try to clean something in it (if any cleaning of the walls is needed or not), and what if you use sunscreens or any lotions, or what happens if a child "makes a mess"
Would definitely love to know more about the maintenance aspect like this too
When it comes to cleaning, the walls of a natural pool generally don’t require much scrubbing. The biofilm that forms on the walls is part of the natural ecosystem and helps maintain water quality. However, you might occasionally need to gently brush away any algae buildup, especially in areas with less water circulation.
Using sunscreens or lotions can introduce oils and chemicals into the water, which might affect water quality. It’s best to use eco-friendly, biodegradable products if you’re swimming in a natural pool. This helps minimize any negative impact on the plants and microorganisms that keep the water clean.
If a child has an accident in the pool, the natural filtration system can handle small amounts of organic matter, but it’s a good idea to remove any solids promptly and ensure the water is circulating well. In cases of significant contamination, you might want to temporarily increase water circulation and filtration to help restore balance quickly.
Additionally, it’s crucial to ensure that the water circulation system, including pumps and filters, is working correctly. Cleaning and inspecting these components regularly will maintain efficient water flow and filtration. Monitoring the water level, especially during dry spells or heavy rainfall, is another important task. Adjusting the water level as needed helps maintain the balance between the swimming and regeneration zones.
Occasionally, you may need to remove sediment buildup from the bottom of the pool. This helps prevent the regeneration zone from becoming too clogged and maintains its filtering efficiency. If you notice excessive algae growth, consider adding UV sterilizers or natural algae controls, like barley straw, to keep it in check.
Overall, natural pools are designed to be low-maintenance, relying on biological processes to keep the water clean. With a bit of regular upkeep and mindful use, you can enjoy a beautiful and eco-friendly swimming experience.
Spiffy! You could put fish in there too.
Wouldnt the other insects/frogs be harmful while you swim?
We live in a tropic area so what should be done to avoid it being a breeding ground of mosquitos?
Natural pools do not have mosquitoes for a number of reasons. Mosquito larvae need still stagnant water in order to breed. Stagnant water has very low dissolved oxygen and natural pools have good levels of dissolved oxygen from plants, movement and life. You see, constant movement and circulation of the water prevent the larvae from surviving. Natural pools also have predators that feed on mosquito larvae. Among them are the Notonectidae, popularly known as backswimmers, and the aquatic beetles (Ditiscidae). Larvae of dragonflies and damselflies also hunt mosquito larvae.
Natural pools and ponds can attract wildlife, including snakes, depending on various factors such as geographic location, surrounding habitat, and the presence of suitable food sources and shelter. While natural pools and ponds may attract snakes, it's essential to remember that snakes are generally shy and prefer to avoid human contact. Taking precautions such as keeping the area around the pool clear of debris, maintaining a well-groomed landscape, and educating yourself about local snake species can help minimize encounters with snakes and create a safe and enjoyable outdoor environment. Additionally, if you live in an area with venomous snakes, it's crucial to be aware of their presence and take appropriate precautions to reduce the risk of snake bites.
Remember though. There is no greater risk of snakes or dangerous wildlife in a natural pool than there would be in say a pristine mountain pool or lake. The exception is if you live in an area that is devoid of much life, such as arid areas or a desert. Your natural pool would then be an oasis for wildlife including snakes.
Habibi, how deep can a natural pool be? I would love a 20 m deep end for freediving , however I'm concerned that the water will stagnate at the bottom and will not take part in the filtration process due to the depth. What are your thoughts please 😊
Hi Habibi, interesting question. It woudn't be a problem though. Deep is actually good as the water at the bottom doesn't see much sunlight. You could very easily slowly circulate water from the bottom to the top. All natural pools do this. That is... they all circulate right through the whole system.
Well, the think I fear most is contemination. I don’t mind algae, or swimming in greenish water as long as it is not slimy. But the parasites carried by birds that drink water or drop their feaces? How do you prevent such contemination, or measure the bacteria and parasites? Can UV lights be used in the pool?
You can absolutely include UV sterilizers, which are particularly beneficial in very warm climates. UV sterilizers help control pathogens and maintain water quality by using ultraviolet light to disinfect the water. This is especially important in warmer climates where higher temperatures can encourage the growth of harmful microorganisms.
In cooler, temperate climates, the wetland area and natural processes in a well-designed natural pool are typically sufficient to keep pathogens at bay. The plants and beneficial bacteria in the regeneration zone work together to filter and purify the water, ensuring it remains clean and safe for swimming without the need for additional sterilization methods.
By incorporating UV sterilizers where needed, you can enhance the natural filtration system and ensure optimal water quality regardless of the climate.
Would this kind of pool be a mosquito breeding ground?
If you plant sweetgrass there you will be safe from them☀️
Natural pools do not have mosquitoes for a number of reasons. Mosquito larvae need still stagnant water in order to breed. Stagnant water has very low dissolved oxygen and natural pools have good levels of dissolved oxygen from plants, movement and life. You see, constant movement and circulation of the water prevent the larvae from surviving. Natural pools also have predators that feed on mosquito larvae. Among them are the Notonectidae, popularly known as backswimmers, and the aquatic beetles (Ditiscidae). Larvae of dragonflies and damselflies also hunt mosquito larvae.
How do you winterize it? Do the plants die and need to be replanted every summer?
Winterizing a natural pool is essential for maintaining its health and beauty, especially in colder climates. To winterize your natural pool, start by removing any debris like leaves and twigs to prevent the buildup of organic matter. Trim back the aquatic plants in the regeneration zone to reduce decaying plant material over the winter. Adjust the water level if needed to protect the pool structure from freeze-thaw cycles, and disconnect and store any equipment that could be damaged by freezing temperatures. Some people also choose to cover their pool with a net or tarp to keep out debris and minimize maintenance in the spring.
As for the plants, they typically go dormant during the winter rather than dying off completely. Most plants used in natural pools are perennials, meaning they will regrow from their root systems when temperatures rise in the spring. These hardy species are adapted to survive cold temperatures and will start growing again once the weather warms up. If annual plants are used, they will need to be replanted each year.
In the spring, you'll need to clean up any remaining dead plant material and debris, reinstall and inspect any equipment that was removed for winter, and monitor the regeneration zone for new growth. By following these steps, you can ensure that your natural pool remains healthy and beautiful year-round, with the aquatic plants playing a vital role in maintaining water quality as they regenerate each spring.
@@leafandstone.naturalpools Very interesting. Thank you for the thoughtful reply.
Ive always thought something like this was possible!!!! Can fish be added?! This is my dream pool.
Yes, you can intergrate fish, just not too many and you need to not feed them or be very careful how much you feed them.
Hey I'm from a sub tropical place and we have issues with mosquitos, so won't this pool change into a breeding ground for mosquitos?
Natural pools do not have mosquitoes for a number of reasons. Mosquito larvae need still stagnant water in order to breed. Stagnant water has very low dissolved oxygen and natural pools have good levels of dissolved oxygen from plants, movement and life. You see, constant movement and circulation of the water prevent the larvae from surviving. Natural pools also have predators that feed on mosquito larvae. Among them are the Notonectidae, popularly known as backswimmers, and the aquatic beetles (Ditiscidae). Larvae of dragonflies and damselflies also hunt mosquito larvae.
Natural Pools are possible in very hot, tropical climates but It's crucial to understand the risks of parasites in tropical natural pools. Two primary concerns are Naegleria fowleri, or "brain-eating amoeba," and schistosomiasis (bilharzia), both found in warm freshwater. Naegleria fowleri can cause severe brain infections but is exceedingly rare, with a reported risk of 1 in 142 million. Schistosomiasis is transmitted by parasitic worms facilitated by freshwater snails, particularly in warm climates where water temperatures exceed 27°C. The disease can be a concern in pools filled with water from sources where bilharzia is endemic.
To safegaurd agaiinst these risks a UV strerlizer is a requirement. Additionally, biweekly treatments with 30% Hydrogen Peroxide can virtually eliminate any risk, as it destroys parasites while oxygenating the water. Though some beneficial microorganisms may be lost, most will remain in the wetland area.
Hello, do natural pools need a pump? thanks
Indeed they do. Water needs to be circulated with some form of pump. There are examples of pools called schwimmteich that use thermal circulation from sunlight to circulate the water but they are only proven to work only in cool climates.
Is it possible to put small fish in these pools? Will they affect the water quality
Yes, it is very much possible. They are actually beneficial BUT one has to be careful. I generally advise putting small goldfish or tilapia in the pool and then not feeding them or feeding them very little. If there is enough of an area for them to scavenge they are happy and beneficial. When you feed them you are introducing nutrients which can lead to Algae problems.
My only issue bilharzia. Haven't seen a way to prevent the parasites from making a home in natural pools.
100ppm 35% H2O2 peroxide once a fortnight or weekly in hotter climates! also adds oxygen to the plants ;-)
How do these type of pools deal with Naegleri fowleri? I thought this very deadly amoeba can only be treated through chlorination?
The biological filter in the regeneration zone is the unsung hero in controlling pathogens. This zone, teeming with plants and microbes, acts as nature’s defense mechanism, absorbing and neutralizing harmful bacteria and viruses. Imagine the scene: antibacterial agents from fungi-yes, the same family that brought us penicillin-and a host of small critters like nematodes and protozoa actively consuming these unwelcome guests. The complexity of this ecosystem ensures that pathogens are not only trapped but transformed biologically. They're caught in the sticky biofilm, amongst roots and gravel, where, if conditions are right, beneficial organisms flourish, much like the flora in your own stomach.
Regarding Naegleria fowleri, a concern in natural bodies of water like lakes and rivers, natural pools present a safer alternative due to the constant circulation through a potent natural filter. This safety is contingent on maintaining water temperatures below 27°C and managing swimmer load to avoid overcrowding. The likelihood of encountering harmful pathogens such as fecal coliforms in a privately maintained pool is exceedingly low. Even if temperatures were to exceed 27°C, the risk of contracting Naegleria fowleri remains minimal, statistically about 1 in 142 million. To put it into perspective, even if you swam in water with detectable levels of Naegleria fowleri twice daily for 50 years, your chance of infection would only be about 1 in 4000.
If you feel comfortable swimming in a mountain stream or pond, then swimming in a natural pool should be no less appealing, especially since the odds of infection are even lower. In tropical climates, where conditions are exceptionally warm, integrating UV sterilizers and periodic treatments with Hydrogen Peroxide can further mitigate risks, ensuring your natural pool remains a safe and enjoyable swimming environment.
Does algae grow on the walls? Will it have that slippery layer?
The surfaces do get slippery yes, so it is good to make the stairs quite rough. a light algae can grow on the walls. This is healthy.
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Very nice! do you use skimmer ?
Yes indeed! Same as a normal chlorine pool.
But what about sunscreens? Can you use them into that swimming pools?
I totally get your concern. Even though it might seem like a little sunscreen wouldn't hurt, it can actually add up and impact the ecosystem in natural swimming pools. Sunscreens with chemicals like oxybenzone and octinoxate can mess with fish and other wildlife, causing issues over time.
Natural pools work by using plants and good bacteria to keep the water clean, so adding those chemicals can throw things off balance. The best bet is to go for eco-friendly, biodegradable sunscreens. Also, try to rinse off any excess sunscreen before you jump in. Keeping the pool well-maintained with good filtration helps a lot too.
By taking these steps, you can enjoy your swim without worrying about harming the ecosystem. If you’re curious, there are some great studies out there, like those in Environmental Health Perspectives and Environmental Science & Technology.
I am interested in investing a natural pool however the only thing holding me back is the mosquitos that breed in the water and other bugs I don’t know about. Are there any sure solutions to this problem? I’m all for having wildlife available in the pools. But I don’t want harmful bugs in there.
It's great to hear you're considering investing in a natural pool! Regarding your concerns about mosquitoes and other bugs, natural pools are actually designed to prevent mosquito breeding. The key is maintaining constant water movement and sufficient oxygen levels, which discourage mosquitoes, as they prefer stagnant water for breeding. Additionally, natural predators like backswimmers and dragonfly larvae are beneficial and help control the mosquito population by feeding on their larvae. If you're still concerned, incorporating design elements like strategic plant placement and water features that enhance water circulation can further minimize the presence of unwanted bugs. Rest assured, a well-designed natural pool provides a habitat for beneficial wildlife while keeping the less desirable critters at bay.
@@leafandstone.naturalpools i appreciate you so much for your response! What you described makes so much sense. Thank you.
These natural pools are habitats for the ecosystem, traditional pools use lots of electricity to run pumps and chlorine etc these all take a lot of maintenance. These cool your home environment but in drought prone areas you should not be considering pools.
What about mosquitos?
Natural pools do not have mosquitoes for a number of reasons. Mosquito larvae need still stagnant water in order to breed. Stagnant water has very low dissolved oxygen and natural pools have good levels of dissolved oxygen from plants, movement and life. You see, constant movement and circulation of the water prevent the larvae from surviving. Natural pools also have predators that feed on mosquito larvae. Among them are the Notonectidae, popularly known as backswimmers, and the aquatic beetles (Ditiscidae). Larvae of dragonflies and damselflies also hunt mosquito larvae.
How would one contact you to design something? Also- are natural pools going to be successful in a place like Georgia? (US)
Natural Pools are possible in very hot, tropical climates but It's crucial to understand the risks of parasites in tropical natural pools. Two primary concerns are Naegleria fowleri, or "brain-eating amoeba," and schistosomiasis (bilharzia), both found in warm freshwater. Naegleria fowleri can cause severe brain infections but is exceedingly rare, with a reported risk of 1 in 142 million. Schistosomiasis is transmitted by parasitic worms facilitated by freshwater snails, particularly in warm climates where water temperatures exceed 27°C. The disease can be a concern in pools filled with water from sources where bilharzia is endemic.
To safegaurd agaiinst these risks a UV strerlizer is a requirement. Additionally, biweekly treatments with 30% Hydrogen Peroxide can virtually eliminate any risk, as it destroys parasites while oxygenating the water. Though some beneficial microorganisms may be lost, most will remain in the wetland area. Please see this page for info on consultation leafandstone.co.za/natural-pool-consultations
Could you do this in the tropics?
Natural Pools are possible in very hot, tropical climates but It's crucial to understand the risks of parasites in tropical natural pools. To safegaurd agaiinst these risks a UV strerlizer is a requirement. Additionally, biweekly treatments with 30% Hydrogen Peroxide can virtually eliminate any risk, as it destroys parasites while oxygenating the water. Though some beneficial microorganisms may be lost, most will remain in the wetland area.
is it safe from amoeba? planning to build my own eco swimming pond soon
100ppm 35% H2O2 peroxide once a fortnight or weekly in hotter climates! also adds oxygen to the plants ;-) most hospitals use it as a great oxidizer to clean stuff.😁
@@Ozjockey111 Yup the H202 (peroxide) is a great method. It can also clear string algae and the plants don't mind it at all. A UV filter is also going to kill any pathogens floating in the water body.
Can you compare lifecycle's cost of both natural and artificial pools?
A natural pool costs less to run than a conventional pool. The energy consumption is anywhere from 50% - 25% less (depending on the design of the pool). For a natural pool we typically use a 75W running 16hrs a day (1200W p/day). A conventional pool will use a 700w pump for 4hrs a day (2800W p/day). There is also no need for the cost of chlorine or other chemicals as well which can easily amount to $50 per month.
@@leafandstone.naturalpools Thank you!! It'll be a interesting topic for a video to go deeper into this comparison, including construction, mantainance and even demolition. As an architect, I'd appreciate the insight
In some sense, it meant you can build one aquaponics system with edible plants, and also swim in the water at the same time
The problem is a natural pool works by being an incredibly low nutrient system which is the opposite of an aquaponics system. they are not mutually compatible.
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We really want to diy this in our backyard, is there a breakdown of the aeration system and designs for us diy--ers? Book, video?
Hi There. I currently have an online course for doing natural pool conversions with a floating system and for a gravel wetland new build I do one-on-one consultation and plans etc. leafandstone.co.za/natural-pool-consultations
Does anyone make salt water natural pools currently? Living in FL I’d like the added safety from some of our dangerous bacteria’s and amoebas in our hot humid climate that can occur in freshwater but not salt water.
Yes, it's possible to create a man-made pool that mimics the composition of ocean water without using a salt chlorinator. This type of pool is often referred to as a "saltwater pool". You would need to add salt to the water to achieve the desired salinity level, which is typically around 35,000 parts per million (ppm), similar to seawater.
In terms of operation, you could still use a filtration system such as a bead filter in a saltwater pool. However, you would need to ensure that the materials used in the filtration system are compatible with saltwater, as saltwater can be corrosive to certain metals and materials over time. Choosing corrosion-resistant materials like stainless steel or PVC for the filtration system would be advisable. Scaling can be an issue in saltwater pools, just as it can be in traditional chlorinated pools. To prevent scaling, it's important to monitor and maintain the water chemistry, including pH and calcium hardness levels. Regularly cleaning the pool surfaces and equipment can also help prevent scaling buildup.
I don't know anyone doing this in the states tough.
Hello, thanks for your videos and to share your knowledge. I'm up to plan my first organic pool and i wuold like to share with you my project, are you willing to see it? Where i can contact you? Have you done any videos about the rigeneration zone sistem? Thanks🍃
Hi there, yes, absolutely. leafandstone.co.za/natural-pool-consultations take a look at that link. I will be uploading more videos on an ongoing basis but I do offer one on one consultation as well.
Any possibility of becoming mosquito hatchery?
Natural pools do not have mosquitoes for a number of reasons. Mosquito larvae need still stagnant water in order to breed. Stagnant water has very low dissolved oxygen and natural pools have good levels of dissolved oxygen from plants, movement and life. You see, constant movement and circulation of the water prevent the larvae from surviving. Natural pools also have predators that feed on mosquito larvae. Among them are the Notonectidae, popularly known as backswimmers, and the aquatic beetles (Ditiscidae). Larvae of dragonflies and damselflies also hunt mosquito larvae.
How do you fight against muskitos with such pool?
Natural pools do not have mosquitoes for a number of reasons. Mosquito larvae need still stagnant water in order to breed. Stagnant water has very low dissolved oxygen and natural pools have good levels of dissolved oxygen from plants, movement and life. You see, constant movement and circulation of the water prevent the larvae from surviving. Natural pools also have predators that feed on mosquito larvae. Among them are the Notonectidae, popularly known as backswimmers, and the aquatic beetles (Ditiscidae). Larvae of dragonflies and damselflies also hunt mosquito larvae.
How does a natural pools prevent issues like brain-eating amoeba?
Just gotta trust the process of a balanced ecosystem I guess🤷🏽♂️
See other comments , this is answered
In regards to Naegleria fowleri and other water borne pathogens. Natural pools are safer than fresh water bodies found in nature (lakes, rivers etc) as the water is constantly being circulated through a highly concentrated natural filter. However, this is provided that that A) The water temperature does not exceed 27C and that B) there are not loads of people swimming in the water all the time. I would not advocate a natural swimming pool in a public area for this reason. A private pool in a residence has an insignificant risk in regards to fecal coliforms etc. Even if the water was warmer than 27C, the risk of getting a Naegleria fowleri is still so low. How low? A reported a risk of 1 in 142 million. So just think about that for a second. You could swim in water with detectable levels of Naegleria fowleri twice a day for 50 years and still, the odds of getting infected would be 1 in 4000. If you are happy to swim in mountain stream or pond, where you live, then you should not think twice about swimming in a natural pool as the chances of infection would be less.
Can you heat a natural pool?
Natural pools can be heated but to a maximum of 27C. Having a pool heater generally means one has to keep the pool covered otherwise you lose 70% of the heat. This is absolutely possible but can limit your design choices. It is also advisable to have UV sterilizers as part of the system if one is keeping the temperature high.
I don’t care about the environmental impacts, the pool looks way better than normal pools! Feels more natural to swim in!
Can we make thisn kind of pool at location Jodhpur, Rajasthan (Ind), where water availability is less and summer is very hot, climate is dry.
It is important to note that there is always a risk of parasites when having a natural pool in the tropics. This is ultimately a decision and a risk you will have to be responsible for once weighing all the factors up. Lets quickly look at the 2 main concerns.
Naegleria fowleri, also known as the "brain-eating amoeba," is a rare but deadly single-celled organism found in warm freshwater environments. It can cause a severe brain infection in humans when contaminated water enters the nasal passages. Even if the water temperature exceeds 27°C, the risk of contracting Naegleria fowleri remains incredibly low. How low exactly? Reported statistics indicate a risk of 1 in 142 million. Just pause and consider that for a moment. You could swim in water containing detectable levels of Naegleria fowleri twice a day for 50 years, and still, the odds of infection would be 1 in 4000.
Natural pools in the tropics, particularly those located in regions where schistosomiasis (shuh·stow·suh·mai·uh·suhs) (bilharzia) is endemic, could potentially pose a risk of transmitting the disease if not properly managed and maintained. Bilharzia is a waterborne disease caused by parasitic worms that can infect humans through contact with contaminated freshwater sources. The bilharzia parasites have an intermediate host: freshwater snails. These snails are necessary for the parasites' life cycle. If your natural pool contains these snails, the risk of transmission increases.
These parasites, which cause bilharzia, thrive in warm and tropical climates and water temperatures above 27°C (80.6°F) provide an environment conducive to the growth and transmission of bilharzia.
The source of water for natural pools is important. If the pool is filled with water from a local lake, river, or pond where bilharzia is present, there is a risk of contamination.
Parasite Prevention: If you are converting an existing pool with a floating wetland you should already have a sand filter. If you keep this running to circulate the entire volume of the pool everyday and you include a UV filter after this, then the chances of Bilhazia, brain eating amoeba and other parasites becomes very small.
You will also want to regularly brush the pool walls and run a pool suction cleaner everyday to ensure you dont have water snails which can act as hosts for Bilhazia. You need to also ensure that water fowl don’t poo in the pool as excrement often carries pathogens.
🤌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I assume that your answer will also fit well for the brazilian 🇧🇷 tropic regions like north and northeast. I think the biggest risk will be aedes aegypti here. Thanks a lot, your content is great and well produced.
Yes, the same would apply :)@@kevind-neri
No, I built my natural pool 4years ago and haven't seen a single mosquito larva. I believe the slow but continuous circulation is the reason.@@kevind-neri
I imagine the same applies to the beaches of Mexico, where the climate is hot…. Thanks 😊
Mosquitos ?
Natural pools do not have mosquitoes for a number of reasons. Mosquito larvae need still stagnant water in order to breed. Stagnant water has very low dissolved oxygen and natural pools have good levels of dissolved oxygen from plants, movement and life. You see, constant movement and circulation of the water prevent the larvae from surviving. Natural pools also have predators that feed on mosquito larvae. Among them are the Notonectidae, popularly known as backswimmers, and the aquatic beetles (Ditiscidae). Larvae of dragonflies and damselflies also hunt mosquito larvae.
Since it is a natural pool can it hypothetically be home to potential harmful bacteria?
The biological filter in the regeneration zone is the unsung hero in controlling pathogens. This zone, teeming with plants and microbes, acts as nature’s defense mechanism, absorbing and neutralizing harmful bacteria and viruses. Imagine the scene: antibacterial agents from fungi-yes, the same family that brought us penicillin-and a host of small critters like nematodes and protozoa actively consuming these unwelcome guests. The complexity of this ecosystem ensures that pathogens are not only trapped but transformed biologically. They're caught in the sticky biofilm, amongst roots and gravel, where, if conditions are right, beneficial organisms flourish, much like the flora in your own stomach.
Regarding Naegleria fowleri, a concern in natural bodies of water like lakes and rivers, natural pools present a safer alternative due to the constant circulation through a potent natural filter. This safety is contingent on maintaining water temperatures below 27°C and managing swimmer load to avoid overcrowding. The likelihood of encountering harmful pathogens such as fecal coliforms in a privately maintained pool is exceedingly low. Even if temperatures were to exceed 27°C, the risk of contracting Naegleria fowleri remains minimal, statistically about 1 in 142 million. To put it into perspective, even if you swam in water with detectable levels of Naegleria fowleri twice daily for 50 years, your chance of infection would only be about 1 in 4000.
If you feel comfortable swimming in a mountain stream or pond, then swimming in a natural pool should be no less appealing, especially since the odds of infection are even lower. In tropical climates, where conditions are exceptionally warm, integrating UV sterilizers and periodic treatments with Hydrogen Peroxide can further mitigate risks, ensuring your natural pool remains a safe and enjoyable swimming environment.
Of course it’s what we all want. But in reality you have to be on top of things all the time for a natural system to be successful in an unnatural environment. That means very high maintenance and, if you don’t have the time for that, the cost of hiring a knowledgeable person to do it for you. If you don’t you end up with an overgrown, mosquito infested bog.
Hi Anne. Are you speaking from direct experience? A natural pool (if well designed and constructed) is no more maintenance than a normal chlorine pool. There are many badly built natural pools, which are a nightmare to maintain, this is sadly because, over the years, there has been very poor information on how to build them. Which I intend to change. More importantly, almost all the people I have made pools for who have built their own using my guidance and courses comment that the maintenance is actually enjoyable. Like tending to a garden.
@@leafandstone.naturalpools correct-amundo, you will get frogs swimming in your pools though but they love the mosquitos also ;-) we find that most people love the froggies...
False. These pools require much less maintenance than a conventional pool
There is no maintenance for natural swimming pool, the nature does it for you
And what about the brain eating amoeba? Is there a risk of infection in the pond with that amoeba?
With Naegleria fowleri and other water borne pathogens. Natural pools are safer than fresh water bodies found in nature (lakes, rivers etc) as the water is constantly being circulated through a highly concentrated natural filter. However, this is provided that that A) The water temperature does not exceed 27C and that B) there are not loads of people swimming in the water all the time. I would not advocate a natural swimming pool in a public area for this reason. A private pool in a residence has an insignificant risk in regards to fecal coliforms etc. Even if the water was warmer than 27C, the risk of getting a Naegleria fowleri is still so low. How low? A reported a risk of 1 in 142 million. So just think about that for a second. You could swim in water with detectable levels of Naegleria fowleri twice a day for 50 years and still, the odds of getting infected would be 1 in 4000. If you are happy to swim in mountain stream or pond, where you live, then you should not think twice about swimming in a natural pool as the chances of infection would be less.
@leafandstone.naturalpools ah ok! That is one of the 2 things that worried me about these natural pools, thank you
I wonder if UV light is harmful to "good" microorganisms of the pool
@@anonimo5912 The UV light will kill beneficial bacteria in the water BUT remember this is only those that are free floating in the water. The majority of the beneficial bacteria live in biofilm that is stuck to gravel and roots in the wetland. So the UV just ensures that the water where you swim is free of pathogens.
@leafandstone.naturalpools thanks for the information, it seems like you really know about this
Is there a chance of brain eating amoeba?
Natural pools are safer than fresh water bodies found in nature (lakes, rivers etc) as the water is constantly being circulated through a highly concentrated natural filter. However, this is provided that that A) The water temperature does not exceed 27C and that B) there are not loads of people swimming in the water all the time. I would not advocate a natural swimming pool in a public area for this reason. A private pool in a residence has an insignificant risk in regards to fecal coliforms etc. Even if the water was warmer than 27C, the risk of getting a Naegleria fowleri is still so low. How low? A reported a risk of 1 in 142 million. So just think about that for a second. You could swim in water with detectable levels of Naegleria fowleri twice a day for 50 years and still, the odds of getting infected would be 1 in 4000. If you are happy to swim in mountain stream or pond, where you live, then you should not think twice about swimming in a natural pool as the chances of infection would be less. In the tropics you have 2 main methods to be 100% sure of no pathogens. 1) Use hydrogen Peroxide weekly (it ends up as water and oxygen so very kind on a natural system) and 2) run a UV filter 24/7
That's all fun and games until some snake or some other shit gets into the pool and you find out too late
There is no greater risk of snakes or dangerous wildlife in a natural pool than there would be in say a pristine mountain pool or lake. The exception is if you live in an area that is devoid of much life, such as arid areas or a desert. Your natural pool would then be an oasis for wildlife including snakes. If being in nature, swimming in wild spaces is not your thing due to fear of snakes and bugs then best to just stay in doors ;)
Just have a salt-water pool instead of chlorine.
Just do what you want and don’t tell others how to live their lives
@@Discodoosyour hypocrisy is amazing😂
What about brain eating ameoba or anything like that which would stay in it and would not get destroyed by plants which is obvious
The biological filter in the regeneration zone is the unsung hero in controlling pathogens. This zone, teeming with plants and microbes, acts as nature’s defense mechanism, absorbing and neutralizing harmful bacteria and viruses. Imagine the scene: antibacterial agents from fungi-yes, the same family that brought us penicillin-and a host of small critters like nematodes and protozoa actively consuming these unwelcome guests. The complexity of this ecosystem ensures that pathogens are not only trapped but transformed biologically. They're caught in the sticky biofilm, amongst roots and gravel, where, if conditions are right, beneficial organisms flourish, much like the flora in your own stomach.
Regarding Naegleria fowleri, a concern in natural bodies of water like lakes and rivers, natural pools present a safer alternative due to the constant circulation through a potent natural filter. This safety is contingent on maintaining water temperatures below 27°C and managing swimmer load to avoid overcrowding. The likelihood of encountering harmful pathogens such as fecal coliforms in a privately maintained pool is exceedingly low. Even if temperatures were to exceed 27°C, the risk of contracting Naegleria fowleri remains minimal, statistically about 1 in 142 million. To put it into perspective, even if you swam in water with detectable levels of Naegleria fowleri twice daily for 50 years, your chance of infection would only be about 1 in 4000.
If you feel comfortable swimming in a mountain stream or pond, then swimming in a natural pool should be no less appealing, especially since the odds of infection are even lower. In tropical climates, where conditions are exceptionally warm, integrating UV sterilizers and periodic treatments with Hydrogen Peroxide can further mitigate risks, ensuring your natural pool remains a safe and enjoyable swimming environment.
So... a pond you don't clean?
circulation for to clean the water is an important part of such structure's filtration.
It has as much mechanical filtration as you want to include or not include. Skimmers, filters, circulation - these all functions the same as a conventional pool. Mechanical means like a sieve to remove leaves, dust etc.
Looks good except for the brain eating amoeba 😂
The biological filter in the regeneration zone is the unsung hero in controlling pathogens. This zone, teeming with plants and microbes, acts as nature’s defense mechanism, absorbing and neutralizing harmful bacteria and viruses. Imagine the scene: antibacterial agents from fungi-yes, the same family that brought us penicillin-and a host of small critters like nematodes and protozoa actively consuming these unwelcome guests. The complexity of this ecosystem ensures that pathogens are not only trapped but transformed biologically. They're caught in the sticky biofilm, amongst roots and gravel, where, if conditions are right, beneficial organisms flourish, much like the flora in your own stomach.
Regarding Naegleria fowleri, a concern in natural bodies of water like lakes and rivers, natural pools present a safer alternative due to the constant circulation through a potent natural filter. This safety is contingent on maintaining water temperatures below 27°C and managing swimmer load to avoid overcrowding. The likelihood of encountering harmful pathogens such as fecal coliforms in a privately maintained pool is exceedingly low. Even if temperatures were to exceed 27°C, the risk of contracting Naegleria fowleri remains minimal, statistically about 1 in 142 million. To put it into perspective, even if you swam in water with detectable levels of Naegleria fowleri twice daily for 50 years, your chance of infection would only be about 1 in 4000.
If you feel comfortable swimming in a mountain stream or pond, then swimming in a natural pool should be no less appealing, especially since the odds of infection are even lower. In tropical climates, where conditions are exceptionally warm, integrating UV sterilizers and periodic treatments with Hydrogen Peroxide can further mitigate risks, ensuring your natural pool remains a safe and enjoyable swimming environment.
But here in The United States don't ponds and lakes have natural but dangerous bacteria like... um... the many flesh eating bacterias? And, oh yeah, there was the one that entered thru the boys sinuses and destroyed his brain. Besides... I love the smell of chlorine in the morning. It smells like victory.
Natural pools are safer than fresh water bodies found in nature (lakes, rivers etc) as the water is constantly being circulated through a highly concentrated natural filter. However, this is provided that that A) The water temperature does not exceed 27C and that B) there are not loads of people swimming in the water all the time. I would not advocate a natural swimming pool in a public area for this reason. A private pool in a residence has an insignificant risk in regards to fecal coliforms etc. Even if the water was warmer than 27C, the risk of getting a Naegleria fowleri is still so low. How low? A reported a risk of 1 in 142 million. So just think about that for a second. You could swim in water with detectable levels of Naegleria fowleri twice a day for 50 years and still, the odds of getting infected would be 1 in 4000. If you are happy to swim in mountain stream or pond, where you live, then you should not think twice about swimming in a natural pool as the chances of infection would be less. But if you love swimming in chlorine then go for it! Each to their own :)
@leafandstone.naturalpools Thanks I like the explanation, I was having that on my mind as well, wandering about those bacterias, excuse my English is not my first language, thanks for answering in the comments, I just subscribed, I have a big pool and definitely I want to know more about natural pools I think this is just genius!!🙌
It’s all fun and games until you got a snake in your pool 🤦🏼♂️
For me chlorine is very cheap, safe, eco-friendly desinfectant if used properly, which almost noone does.
It's not actually that cheap if you add up the monthly cost. As for being eco-friendly...hmmm, I will have to differ!
How much is it in your country? Here in europe, i can buy 3litres of chlorine 5% solution for like 2USD(two, not twenty). I think there were studies that even 1:100 solution of 5% kills everything in minutes. 1litre is basically enough for 1 family/year of household cleaning. Sounds cheap to me. When used its changed to free Cl- and NaCl i think, which both are not dangerous if used properly@@leafandstone.naturalpools
It's expensive and terrible for the environment!
@@PatrickCole-md9bu I pay 1usd for yearly use for whole house. Its just 5% solution of Sodium hypochlorite with water, after usage its converted into NaCl(kitchen salt), and free chlorine gas.
Would you consume a bottle of chlorine? If so, what would be the effects? You sound like one of those idiots from Monsanto claiming that said pesticides are safe, but refuse to drink a glass. They refer to Bleaching of the reefs as Bleaching, because it's bad. It's reference to something terrible and in most cases irreversible!
someone stolen david pagan butlers ideas
Hi Gary. I love Mr David Pagan Butler but he is certainly not the pioneer of the natural pool. :)
The first recorded man-made natural pool utilizing a biofilter or wetland to clean the water is a bit challenging to pinpoint with absolute certainty due to the limited historical documentation on such innovations. However, one significant early example is the modern recreation of natural swimming pools, known as "swimming ponds," which gained popularity in Europe during the late 20th century.
In the early 1980s, Austrian landscape architects and environmentalists such as Günther Künstle and Werner Gamerith pioneered the concept of natural swimming pools that mimic freshwater ecosystems. These swimming ponds utilize aquatic plants, gravel beds, and microorganisms to filter and purify the water, eliminating the need for traditional chemical treatments like chlorine.
One of the earliest documented examples of a natural swimming pool is the "Schwimmteich" (literally "swimming pond" in German) built in 1985 in the village of Hechtel in Belgium. This project was a collaboration between landscape architect Bruno Wallraf and biologist Frank Schüler. The Schwimmteich served as an inspiration for further developments in natural swimming pool technology across Europe.
These early experiments with biofiltration systems in swimming ponds laid the groundwork for the modern natural swimming pool movement, which continues to evolve and gain popularity worldwide. Today, natural swimming pools are appreciated not only for their ecological benefits but also for their aesthetic appeal and low maintenance requirements.
Sure, the tail end costs are lower; but, the construction costs are higher.
A lie by omission is still a lie.
meh not by much
You can build natural pools for low cost and high cost. If you look at the rest of my content much of it is about empowering people to create their own natural pools for very low cost.
what about mosquitos?
Natural pools do not have mosquitoes for a number of reasons. Mosquito larvae need still stagnant water in order to breed. Stagnant water has very low dissolved oxygen and natural pools have good levels of dissolved oxygen from plants, movement and life. You see, constant movement and circulation of the water prevent the larvae from surviving. Natural pools also have predators that feed on mosquito larvae. Among them are the Notonectidae, popularly known as backswimmers, and the aquatic beetles (Ditiscidae). Larvae of dragonflies and damselflies also hunt mosquito larvae.
What about mosquitos?
Natural pools do not have mosquitoes for a number of reasons. Mosquito larvae need still stagnant water in order to breed. Stagnant water has very low dissolved oxygen and natural pools have good levels of dissolved oxygen from plants, movement and life. You see, constant movement and circulation of the water prevent the larvae from surviving. Natural pools also have predators that feed on mosquito larvae. Among them are the Notonectidae, popularly known as backswimmers, and the aquatic beetles (Ditiscidae). Larvae of dragonflies and damselflies also hunt mosquito larvae.
What about mosquitos?
Natural pools do not have mosquitoes for a number of reasons. Mosquito larvae need still stagnant water in order to breed. Stagnant water has very low dissolved oxygen and natural pools have good levels of dissolved oxygen from plants, movement and life. You see, constant movement and circulation of the water prevent the larvae from surviving. Natural pools also have predators that feed on mosquito larvae. Among them are the Notonectidae, popularly known as backswimmers, and the aquatic beetles (Ditiscidae). Larvae of dragonflies and damselflies also hunt mosquito larvae.