1970 Dodge Dart vs Chevrolet Nova Dealer Promo Film
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- 1970 Dodge Dart vs. Chevrolet Nova Dealer Promo Film
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This has to be the most black-and-white feeling color video I've ever seen.
And I loved every second of it!
Dodge never made a grocery getter 340.
Every 340 was a fire breathing beast.
Every 383 and 440 was also a fire breathing beast.
Chrysler/dodge never made a car that sounded like a pissed off bumble bee.
CherryCyanideHD my brother had a 1972 Plymouth Cud’a 340 c.i. in 1975 and our cousin had a 1970 Chevelle SS 396.
They raced for about a quarter of a mile or a little over and the Cud’a 340 beat the Chevelle SS 396 by 3 car links.
Ken K yes that’s true I had a Plymouth Cuda’ it was fast it beat Z/28’s trans am’s and a GTO and a Mach 1 withs 351.
Big Bill O'Reilly your obviously an Obama and Hillary fan get over it Trump won the election.
@@Ekstasii
Even my buddies 70 sport fury 383 2 barrel?
Eh nail it at 35-40 in 1st and it would rise that big heavy front end decently.
It had to have some low number rear gears , i think it did about 50-55 in 1st.
This was back when there was a huge demand in Los Angeles for crane operators at wrecking yards and secretaries with flower arranging skills.
Those were the days.
The flower comment made me laugh. So funny.
and you could walk in and get hired instantly!
@@frigglebiscuit7484 And rent a nice apartment in a good part of town at a decent price.
I was at a Caffeine & Octane yesterday and there was a '70 Nova 396/375 , 4sp with 15K MILES - family car. The guy's uncle bought it new, he died and it was store in the grandmother's barn for years. He wasn't sure of the rear end ratio, "pretty low, rpm 4K at 70". Had a book with window sticker and best of all the speeding tickets his uncle had gotten when driving the car. Absolutely incredible.
My mom bought a new '75 Dart Sport off the showroom floor. She also thought about buying a new Plymouth Arrow but the rest of the family voted it out! (so glad we did)The Dart was the fastback model like the Demon. It was loaded. Had a 318 and a 4-speed on the floor. No console, but bucket seats. It was black with a black interior, half vinyl roof and had a flat black stripe the went down the side and over the roof. It had the Rally Wheels. I remember the right side torsion bar became weak or something and the car always leaned to the right. I also remember the "check EGR" light would flash every so often. In 1980, my friends and I skipped school on St. Patricks Day and went into the city (Cleveland, Ohio) for the parade. We drove the Dart. I remember doing 110 mph down I90 with 5 of us in the car. It was a fun day. I miss the Dart. We sold it a few years later..I wish I knew what happened to it
I remember that year. It was called a Rallye option I think....The 4 speed with a Hurst shifter was a neat package. My buddy had one.
Watching this at lunch time in my Daily driver 68Dart.. when they show the Dash.. it's a Match.. even if mine isn't that new. Thanks for the Post always great More Darts please..
I had 4 door versions of these cars at different times and they were both great.
You couldn't kill the Dart -- bought it new and finally sold it with 125k after the auto transmission got cranky. Slant 6.
Bought the Nova for $1000 from a little old lady in suburban Chicago who'd only put 30k on it over 6 years. I drove it another 70k over the next 6 years, by which time the body was rusting away, the windshield leaked, the knob on the shifter fell off, several heater controls had snapped off in the cold weather and the trunk started to smell bad because the emergency blanket and towels back there would soak up the roadspray that came in thru the rust holes. But it would not die! Sold it for $200.
The brother/ sister act is truly bizarre. But I love the groovy send-off party.
I wish I could go back in time and buy myself a brand new 1970 Dart Swinger.
My heart says Swinger with a 340 but my head says Dart sedan with a Slant 6.
Split the difference...a Dart Custom with a 318
No, one of each...👍
340
73 Scamp with a /6? I love mine.
@@jamessilly6837love both of my super sixes. 225
Love these old dealer commercial. I have a 71 with a BB 383. It turns a lot of heads and the best thing is, you don't see them as much as the mustang, camaro, nova and chevelle .
As a Dart owner, a 1970 at that, it is the best car I’ve ever owned. I love it.
Mine is a 66' dart gt.
We have two 1970 Dodge Dart's. One Orange 340 Swinger 4 Speed and one Dart GT Custom with a aftermarket factory spec 340 with a cam that is EF8 Green. It is a 3 Speed Auto. Both like new!
@@thetrainroom960 340 Wedge?
ive got a 70 swinger with a 400 big block and 4 speed. dont big block a small block car or 4 speed an auto car....way too much $$$
seems like Dodge "forgot" that Nova had big block 396/402 SS option in 1970 LOL
They also forgot to point out how most Novas dog tracked
396? So what, nothing a good 340 couldn't out do
dpt another fucking idiot!
@@justenough730 :70 ss396 nova 1/4 mile 14.2 @how much money? A 70 340 Dart Swinger with Ronnie Sox behind the wheel, 14.7 @ a HELL OF A LOT LESS MONEY! I'll take the DART!
@@dpt4402 That was a big problem with those cars, especially those with mono leafs. My dad had a 69 2dr with the 230 six, 3 auto, p/s, pb. He bought it used in 78. The spring pin was already broken. He had it fixed but the shop recommended multi leafs with the reinforced center mounting pin. He did so and drove it until the trans went out in 83. Other than that, it was a pretty decent car. I worked at a spring/chassis shop in the late 80s, and we still saw Novas with broken pins come in.
Beautiful women in mini skirts, boots, no tattoos or piercings and V8 engines.... those were good old days.
That Sandy was one groovy chick in her Dart
She made the right choice with a Dodge
"The computer that designed this suspension must have flipped a cog!"
😆
The Chevy salesman looks like the magician from the original frosty cartoon 😂
Dodge had temporary amnesia not wanting to mention anything about the SS 396 that year for nova. Lol
Jimmy LaBuff The Dodge also came equipped with a high performance 383 that would give a 396 all it wanted.
@@rogerlairamore3209 Not to mention the GSS 440 Dart
they didnt need to. plenty of 69 440s running around that would eat them.
Unfortunately for Chrysler, the Dart was replaced by the Aspen/Volaré twins. The (at the time) most recalled cars in history.
That was the beginning of a tragic decline. The only good thing about the Aspen and Volare was the wagon body style they reintroduced in the compact segment.
My father bought a brand new 1979 Plymouth Volare. Not only was it a good looking car, we had for over 15 years until my brother totaled it. Not once in those 15 years did we have any problems.
@@johnbrown504 < You are very bold to admit you had a Volare. As for being a good looking car, I think your eyesight or taste may be in question.
The nova suffered the same fate as the dart: it was replaced by the Citation, which replaced the Aspen as the most recalled car.
Nova SS396 with 4 speed for me
Yep. I drove a friends 396/375 . Geez, I wish I had it now.
I'm sorry 440 owners your roadrunner GTX can't stand up to the mighty Nova SS396 SORRY.
@@cargo4441 < Roadrunners didn’t have a 440. Sorry!
MOPAR ALL THE WAY BABY!!!
53 AND SINCE I LIKED REAL CARS ( 8 YEARS OLD)
45 YEARS IVE BEEN A BUYER, RACER, AND BUILDER FOR BIG BLOCK , 727 TORQUEFLIGHT , 904, 340 AND EVEN A STRONG 318 BUILD ( 450 HP) NO KIDDING. WHEN I WAS YOUNG, 318s were bulletproof engines that were great for daily driving or 275,000 miles or more! Not racing.
Now, the last 10 years or so
They have builds as much as 525.
I dont, not sure about that but 450 is strong and 1 that i built, the first 8 yrs ago has hit the 1/4 1000 times and its a great daily driver to.
Thanks DODGE, CHRYSLER, JEEP, RAM AND OFCOURSE THE SRT BOYS AND HOTELS
Why are you yelling?
I have a 1974 Dodge Dart swinger 318 and absolutely love it! Not the most powerful car on the road but with some little touches she surprises and lot of people and turns many heads!
been watching alot of these promo films and this is the first to not persuade me
Hi my mopar com. can you please turn on the caption on this one you almost always have them captioned love all the car's owned some of the best one's thank you C😎😎L
I really enjoy these old videos.
I've noticed Dodge brags how they have full instrumentation on their cars, which is how it should be.
But sometime between then and my 2010 Challenger RT Classic they lost their way. My RT Classic has limited gauges, which has always bugged me as a major cheap out.
True, ownership isn't the same. But legacy should remain.
I had three friends who had Novas with 396 cubic inch with 375HP engines (my choice). That said there was another friend who had a Dart with a 340. He could hang with the big boys. He had "Poison Dart" on the rear quarter panel.
The farewell party looks awesome.
I went into this thinking of my HS principal and his Dart Swinger from '71 Hate to admit that though i'd normally be Chevy all the way, this Dart looks good.
I had a gym teacher with an older Dart. I think it was 68 with a three on the tree. It was probably the 170 Slant Six not the performance oriented 225.
dig those Mopar cubes man, love the giant killer. What an amazing channel. Don't be a square and subscribe!
Length Rocky! Length!😂😂
The filmstrip was shown at Dodge dealers to test the knowledge and memory of the salesmen. And I'm guessing that Chrysler Corporation(now known as FCA US,LLC)added a girl to see if the salesmen could take the quiz without being distracted by her.
I drove them both in the times and they were good automobiles, I was able to step on the 340 and it was; nice engine lets put it that way. Only the six in the Nova.
Dodge Dart for me! Nova no way! Mopar all the way!
Shows to go you who had the brains in the family. I'll definitely go with Sandy.
Dodge is cool.......but that Nova could have the 396......no bigblock for the Dart.....no mention of engine options
There was an option package a limited number of dealers offered, similar to Yenko with GM. But frames were cut and other light weight mods made it very rare, with no warranty.
383 Darts did happen. GTS but not in 70.. oh well.. I own Twin 68 Darts. I'm sold. But I have and will always like the Nova.
Certain dealers offered 383 and even 440 Darts and Dusters in 70, like Grand Spaulding in Chicago, after Chrysler officially dropped those engines from the factory option list. They also offered 6 pack induction through certain dealers through 72 on 340s. What I will say is that SB Novas handled quite well with the optional HD suspension package.. so much so, that they were the cars to beat ( in their class) in MSP tests through 79.
Who's that girl?
There was a HEMI Dart built especiall éy for track racing. Itd
The Dart is basically Mopar's version of the Chevy Nova.
Mr norm would set you up with one of them big motors in the dart.
I had a 74 Swinger someone put a 340 in and that little bastard would fly. More than one guy I raced, some I won, some I lost, would ask me what the hell have you got in that thing?
Why is she living with her brother? Shouldn't his name be Sonny Beach? How does she get those go go boots off? What's the performance of a slant 6 on a 12% grade? Downhill. Why am I here? Why are any of us here? Wouldn't a Demon to Nova comparison be more relevent?
Demon was first made in 71. Plymouth Duster was around in 70.
Those are great points. Yeah, the Demon/Duster vs. Nova comparison is better. Dodge just didn't have that body style quite yet like Plymouth did.
Those boots are crimped on...😂
The Dodge Demon could also be bought with a slant 6 as well . I looked into those not long ago because I had a chance to buy one that was a drag car from the 80s set up with a full tube chassis tubbed & had a built 12:1 413 max wedge with a Dominator & full race prepped 727 that was running in the 9 s back then all engine no power adders & I found out they could be optioned with a leaning tower of power or the hillside Hemi lol . It had wheelie bars on the back but you could see grind marks in the lower rear bumper from it doing wheelies without the wheelie bars lol . The guy wanted 5 grand for the car but it was pretty rough from sitting a lot of years in a barn so I had no idea if it even ran or if it was actually a real 413 Max wedge engine or not being this guy did a trade for it to restore another Mopar this guy with the Demon had . Had no title & was strictly a drag car pretty much & I wanted something I could pro street & drive on the streets & Hiways so I passed on it !
Your Swinger is nearly 7 inches longer
I wish my swinger was that long.
And they say size doesn't matter.
@@metalmopars Finarr Finarr Finbar Saunders and his double Entendres
Dart vs Nova? That's a tough one.
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If Rocky was a true road racer he would have bought a SS 396 with 375 hp (in reality a 402)!😀
That was so cheesy that I loved it
Could I special order a big block in the dart Swinger ? I'd take a plum crazy 440 :)
Unfortunately, no. The factory big block Darts ended with the 69 model year. Truthfully, they drive so much better with the small block. I have three and they are all small block, but there's no denying how cool a big block Dart is!
@@johnwilburn get the right torsion bars and the big block darts drive fine. i have a 400 4 speed dart.
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't dennis weaver driving a dart in the movie " dual "?
I think he drove a Plymouth Valiant.
Yep, 1972 Plymouth Valiant 4 door
Kids in their 20s needing reading glasses? Ahh the 60s and 70s...
Is that a cellphone that shes has at the 10:44 minute spot?
6:58 But that is information that is still too little and still too late if trouble develops with the oil pressure!
¿cual es el nombre del tema musical de fondo? ² ¤
Groovy, baby! Say, if Dodge was competing with Chevy, who was Plymouth supposed to be competing with?
Gota go with the Nova. That 396 in 1969 would own the streets.
Nope, it wouldn't, maybe against fords. Think about chargers and coronets.
CherryCyanideHD Against Ford? I don’t think so. 428 Cobra Jet Mach 1
@@MisterTwister88 we were talking 1970 not 1971 I like older Fords new ones are extremely hard to work on although 1971 is still old
CherryCyanideHD The OP said 1969, so I was talking about 1969. Now you’re talking about 1970-71
@@MisterTwister88 yea I really don't focus on Ford but I don't want to argue about it.
Can’t beat that dart. I’ll take a slant 6 dodge any day of the week. Moparnocar.
I got a 73 Dart Swinger with the slant six as usual running strong.
A yup. Hehehe Propane
john first I tell ya hwat.
Interesting
That Nova definitely looks good brother and so does the Dart.
This was made 49 years ago. Both Rocky and Sandy are in their 70s now.
and Sandy is still driving her Swinger
And I'll bet Sandy is really hot!
It was better to be in your 20s during the seventies than to be in your 70s in the twenties
One of each for me. Nova ss 350, dart 340..
Yeah, and the LA block 340 out gunned both.
oh come on i like both
Sorry but I'd go with a 396 nova here. Probably change my mind if it was a 67-69 dart tho...
A super 60 Package GLH Turbo Omni beat every one of these Mopar land barges in a magazine test from the early 90s, I cant remember the Magazine though...Mopar action magazine?
Hyper Pak 225!!
Well one car is the fastest street car in the world as of Cash Days 2018 the other was overshadowed by the Challenger Demon.
You know it’s true
You have to wonder whether the same corporate mentality used to train a salesforce was employed in R&D, manufacturing, and marketing. If so, what culminated in the late 70s and 80s makes sense.
Rear torsion bars would have been cool.
But all BS aside they are both desirable cars today a well tuned 340 Dart back in the day would spank many a big block!
Learned to drive on a 72 Dart sedan with the 225. First car was a 69 Acadian with the 230/Powerglide transmission. No comparison. The Dart was by far the better car.
Who's the actress?
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Having both cars, the Nova is better.
@silverbird58
The 383 didn't come in the Dart as a standard option. And Chevrolet never made a 383. Go outside once in awhile.
@silverbird58 no, it got pulled off youtube because motortrend got greedy and wants a month subscription for sub-par videos. btw, no it was not lop-sided. mopar made more tq because of the ginormous piston compared to the chevy.
Sure the nova could have a big block but I've seen the 340 run away from those big motors. And the nova just screams cheap
The Dart looks like a UK GM made Vauxhall Viva
My dad had a 71 swinger he purchased as a family car. It rust severely from the NH winters. It had a hole rusted completely thru in 2 years on the top of the front fenders . Was a falling down junk in 5 years. Traded it for a 76 swinger. The 76 was one of the first with catalytic converter and was way worse than the 71. All the rust and a crappy running engine. Chrysler legacy.
They mentioned dusting her off.....while plymouth had the duster.
I feel the 68 Dart had better looks
But that’s just me
I have a 68, 70, and 73. They all have their virtues.
What do they mean by 'Hard top' they all have steel roofs?
Thank you :-) Is that is what makes it a sedan?
@@tjm3900 sedan usually refers to a 2/4 door with a post running down from the roof.
Dodge is the grandfather of muscle since 58 with the 392 in the chrysler 300 370hp no car then had that much power....
Boys and Girls
What's the difference between a hard top and a coupe? This video made a big deal about it.
a post running down from the roof to the body.
The computers that designed Chrysler's suspensions ALWAYS flipped cogs!
torsion bars are better than coils any day.
You know Sandy is a swinger
I was 3 😂
I'd rather have a 340 Duster than a Dart or a Nova, and I'm a GM kinda guy.
The body design of the Dart looks so much better than the Nova
The dart was a sportier looking car than a nova and the 340 was a very stout engine but the dart was a flimsy rust bucket. The nova was a much more substantial car.
Rubbish. The A bodies were built tougher and stronger - just check out the solid K frame and front end engineering and the axle design. Compared to the Nova tin car from 'Generic Motors'/ One leaf spring - you gotta be joking!
nooope. mopars had stiffer chassis. nova crabwalked.
1970 was the year the girls looked beautiful with they're Turtle neck sweaters, the guys looked good with the sideburns, and the cars just not only looked beautiful and apart, they're where also truly American made out of real metal unlike modern vehicles that are not only overpriced but made out of plastic, and they all look like the same Egg shells that you see on eggs.
No question, Nova all the way.SS
I agree...
being a ford guy i am kinda out of this one..but if i had to choose..it will be the dodge..been around novas like these back in the day and always thought they were just a cheap chevy..the nova would walk all over the dodge with top power plants..but its not always about top power...funny they didnt mention chevy still using the cheap ass 2 speed powerglide
Maybe a Chevy could walk all over a Ford 302 or 351 but not a 340
@@justenough730 ...yeah..and a 427 ford cammer would eat a hemi's lunch....turn around.then laff at it .....the cammer was known as the hemi killer
@@justenough730 and motor trend or hotrod magazine did a small block engine muscle car shootout .....when the dust settled...it was the boss 351 that took top honors
@@merc-ni7hy check out the winners of the 1971 winter national finals every single catagory from stock thru top fuel was Chrysler powered to take the win i don't see Ford in that win column
@@justenough730 thats cuzz there was so much support for chrysler....wasnt bob glidden setting track records with a small block ford????..back then there was zero support
Love the 340 V8. Meh, 339
I love these Mopar vids. They come up with the stupidest shit to claim a victory over. Door handles? Please! Three Novas and one Dart. I’ll take the Nova, thank you. Though I do wish they’d produced it in a hardtop.
Mopar A Bodies Forever.. ok and Plymouth B Bodies don't tell my Dart's
Either of these cars are way better than the junk SUV that is currently available now. I won’t drive Karen’s soccer wagon.
There's also a Canadian version of the 70 Chevy Nova (aka the Acadian SS).
Wonder why she changed her cloths to put the steamer trunk in the Dodge. LOL
Because Monica Lewinski's dry cleaner had to learn his craft somehow.
Sorry Mopar guys nobody wants that dart nowadays but plenty of demand for that 70 nova. Plus Chevy had a big block that year.but earlier their was a hemi dart.that 340 has many similarities to the sbc.
Greg the Hemi dart could only be bought for drag racing as a factory drag car special order only that couldn't be driven on the street because it was a full 12:1 race Hemi & the car came with no title or a VIN number ! It even came with a decal stating competition only ! They did have a 440 option as well that was done by another source for Dodge but we're very rare & you could buy the 69 383 Dart GTS which are rare as well ! I know someone who has one a 383 4 spd car that's restored in very nice original condition ! Those Hemi Darts & the 69 BO29 Hemi fastback Barracudas were the very first factory drag cars built & were a terror on the drag strips back then but I think they only made about 50 of them if I remember most being sold to factory race drivers & some dealerships that raced . They have there own class for those very same cars now with some of them running low 8s old school carburetors & manual transmission which is neat as heck ! Check them out on RUclips here in the SS/A & SS/B classes if I remember or just type in 68 factory Hemi Dart drag car or 69 BO29 Hemi fastback Barracuda & stuff will show up !
i cant help chevy idiots obsess over a certain year model and body style. cheaper is better. you chevy boys ought to know that, accounting on how cheap all your bolt ons are. too bad you have to add so many to keep up with stock mopar parts.
Dart was such a better built car. The Nova was good enough to the point where consumers were brainwashed by GM's good advertising. They preyed on the lazy who didn't want to do their homework.
Sandy and Rocky, those names ring some movie characters way before the were written, LOL
Why does the Chevy dealer look like a green alien mexican? I think I would rather go to a Dodge dealer if Chevrolet dealers are green. As for the cars they both seem competitive only the dodge will likely be in the shop every other week.
Guided Meditation my friend has a yard full of Dodges none run.
@@jackrohde4709 LOL I have seen one of those yards. Maybe your neighbor is a great guy but those cars need some improvement.
Wow the new Dart is just a toyota Corolla
No, actually the new Dart is based on an Alfa Romeo chassis, with Dodge designed sheet metal.
They should have gone with the A-body retro styling for the dart reissue, a lot of us grew up with these cars and would have bought one if they looked like the car in the video or like the one Mannix had
Nova ten times better then that soon to be rust bucket dodge
Never seen an unrestored Nova with less rust than an unrestored Dart!
@@nathanadrian7797 and doin the crabwalk half the time.
Fond childhood memories of seeing alot of them do that.
and the nova will be found in a junkyard with a blown up 350, centerline wheels, different doors, and bowtie stickers all over it. the mopar? itll be just like it left the showroom floor. thats something ive noticed about chevy people...
The sexism in the Chrysler promo videos is embarrassing.