1969 Dodge Dart 340 vs 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS | PURE STOCK DRAG RACE
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2021
- 1970 Chevy Chevelle Super Sport vs 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger 340. Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race. Factory Stock Drag Race.
First car is a 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle. The other a 1969 Dodge Dart. The Dart has a 340 V8. The Chevelle has a 396 V8. The Chevelle L34 396 was rated 350 horsepower, and the 340 was rated 275 horsepower. The 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger 340 features a TorqueFlite 3-speed automatic transmission, while the 1970 Chevy Chevelle SS396 has a 4-speed manual transmission. Rear gearing in the Chevelle is 3.31, and 3.55 for the Dart Swinger. The Dart is light, only 3434 pounds including the driver. The Chevelle on the other hand is somewhat heavy, 3966 pounds with the driver. They produced 51,455 L34 396 Chevelles in 1970. Around 16,000 Dart Swinger 340s were made in 1969. Car Life tested the 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger 340 and it ran 0-60 in 6.9 seconds and the quarter mile in 14.8 seconds @ 96 mph.
Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race (PSMCDR). FAST Factory Appearing Stock Tire factory stock. Super Car Drag Race.
Remember, both cars participate in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race series, so please check out their website: www.psmcdr.com
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The rules for PSMCDR are listed below:
For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster than 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines - 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.
Disclaimer: The Cars And Zebras RUclips channel is a news channel bringing results/news of drag racing with added history of automobiles. All footage/pictures used were either captured by the Cars And Zebras channel, or used for critique purposes under Fair Use. 
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Which car do you prefer? Leave a comment!
“Swing a ding ding er “ all day
@@gordo4044 nice choice!
I like both!
Well I think I know which one I prefer 😉
The green Chevelle all day. And speaking of green Chevelles, do you still have yours?
I just bought a 1970 Dodge Dart Swinger with a 440 Magnum Cross Ram. 👍
Don't ever get rid of it!
Owned a 340 Cuda w/4.10 rear back in the day and it routinely wrecked big blocks in our local street racing area.
Back in 76-77 my brother-in-law had a nice orange 70 340 Duster. Slightly modded with 3.91 gears and a 4-speed that car was QUICK! In fact in the small town we lived in (around 15,000 people) he was hard to beat. The only race I saw him lose was to a 427 67-68 camaro and a 440 six pack challenger. It was that fast.
@Speedy rapacki I said small town, not Mayberry RFD, LOL. I was there when my brother-in-law took out many big block contenders. That car was quick and well known......
@Speedy rapacki weight can help replace displacement
I bought a 1969 Dart. In Sept. of 1968. It was a 340 4 speed 3.55. Posi. I ordered with the “ Swinger “ stripe deleted. It was the coolest car I ever had. Parenthetically: it came with no headrests required on all cars manufactured in 1969…. Mine was built in 1968 , so l guess they saved a couple bud. We had a different world back then
very cool
No doubt your Dart was a hoot to drive. I like that you had the stripe deleted. Stripes, badges and decals do not improve the performance. You had what I call 'all cake and no icing' (stripe).
Interestingly, the swinger flower that dots the " i " wasn't added untill 1970.
That second race, if I was in the dart, would have been exciting as can be. That little spread of 4 mph means that you would be screaming for the finish line to arrive as the Chevelle was eating up the gap at almost 6 feet per second, or just over 1/3 of a car length per second.
I always love the rush of being chased by a quicker car in the quarter. Most addictive drug ever is being the slower car in a bracket race.
Very true!
Sounds exciting 👍
Little more gearing out back and the Chevelle would definitely be much faster. For a heavy car and a 4-speed, 3.31s just don't cut it off the line. I never understood why GM didn't have 3.73s as standard for these cars.
I've always liked being the "Hunter" rather than the "Hunted"
Those 340's will get you "up" for the occasion for a BIG surprise!
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A friend of mine has a 340 duster, wheelstanding 10.77 street car.
Awesome cars! Awesome racing! Back in my day, a friend had a 69 Dart, 340, 4 speed. He knew how to shift! My neighbor had a 70 Chevelle(sp?), 454(!), auto tranny. He let me drive it one time. Absolute tire melting power. It was equal to my bee. Ahh, the good old days...I was sooo lucky to have lived back then when all these cars were cheap.
Getting old sucks 😔
@@kirrus4781 you got that right, son! I'm 60 and scared 😨
Cmon'Man ..Theres sth wrong with these videos ... when 340 mini-muscle Mopars (Dart .. Duster .. 14+ sec quaterMille cars according to old magasines) .. are winning with 13+sec top big blocks from top years '69/70 ...
They were fast but not faster than Hemi 'Cudas or 454 Chevelles .. ffs .. !?! ...
@@bukkuk5949 hi! Well, yes and no, my friend. There cars aren't really stock. These guys are allowed any modification available from their factory. Mopar had 4.89 rear gears available. I saw one, on here, the other day, that had a 5.0 rear gear available!!! Maybe, it was AMC? ICR. More stuff like, electronic ignition, shift kit, 2.5" exhaust pipe, +0.70" over bore, 1.5 point increase on compression ratio. I think I hit most, if not, all, of the allowable mods. The list is posted on the description page for the video. Plus you've got to factor in the driver. I lost 2 races, to slower cars, because I smoked my tires off of the line. They didn't. Most of these guys a millionaires. They've got balanced/blue printed motors. Nobody else could afford to race and possibly injure, a $200,000 and above, car.
340s were always a performance engine. Never came in 2 barrel carb. Always 4 barrel or more. They pack a punch !
True
The 340's were something else. My neighbor had a 340 Duster in 1970 and that thing was amazin!
The 340 are a beast.
Those Dart GTS cars were part of the MOPAR Scat Pack, so they were definitely part of their performance line.
Thanks for the 50 year old information !
I had a 340 in a Roadrunner with slap stick. They were underrated in HP department. Beep Beep.
guessing that was a tank 71+ roadrunner? :(
In the early 90s m buddy built a 340 11:1 comp. W2 motor in a Dodge Aspen, 727 3500 stall 4.10 gears 30 inch slicks. I built a 86 Monte SS Big block 396 11:1 comp. TH400 3500 stall, 4:88 gears, 33 inch Micky Thompsons. Both street cars ran neck and neck high 11s every trip we took to the track. Always impressed by those little 340s.
Another great video! Thanks for bringing these great cars to RUclips.
I'll take the Dart. Love them and back in the seventies early eighties my brother owned a sweet '70 F8 green Swinger 340. My other brother owned a cool bright yellow '72 Duster 340. Both those car's were sold long ago but I still have my '71 340 Challenger convertible I got back in '83. I learned from their mistake's.
That Chevelle is sweet too. If I was rich...I would own them all.
I've enjoyed this channel for quite some time. Thank you for always making this enjoyable. 😁
if a 4 spd in the mopar their would have been tears in chevy pepoles beers lol
I disagree, almost 95% of these races I watch a auto usually does the better job off the line and getting a-b quickest.....and I've watched every C and Z videos lol....
@@hankhaddock3881 auto is for consistent times but uses alot more horse power the chevell ss in this run wood have more tourqe for auto
@DFV dodge was just to fast in its day says it all lol
Mopar 340 is no joke, probaly the best small block ever.
I don’t like Ford. But the 351 Cleveland is pretty damn impressive
So are Boss 302’s and that 302 D or some designation Chevy put out in the late 60’s! Both of these were badass. I think they were both racing engines to compete in the Trans Am series was it?
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I agree, they were wicked.
Mopar had the best small block of any Auto Manufacturer.
Man, I bet that Dart owner wishes he could get a do-over on that last run. Talk about 2 equality matched cars. If it was 1/8 mile it would be all Dart.
The driver of the Dart needed better rearend gearing it would of made a big difference
Years ago I saw so many 340’s absolutely destroy a lot of big blocks.
Great video as always! Cars selected and races matched... spot on. Please... please keep the jokes coming!!
Dart all the way!
Fart all the way 👍👍
Shart all the way up
Another great episode! The awesome dart held its own against that sweet Chevelle 396 (even though the dart red lighted) love these videos brother, Keep up the great work and cool cars! ♥️👍
Thanks for watching!
Ditto for the Dart. It's not heavy, but it sounds like it barely got into 3rd before the traps. The 340 loved to rev, and 3.91 or 4.10 is what would have been run back in the day.
Excellent, both cars. Thanks
The big 3 knew what they were doing as far as packing a smallish HO V8 in a light weight body. And they were dirt cheap to buy brand new. For me, the Chevelle has the looks, love the 70 the best, but the lil Dart is surprising quick, and the 4 speed cars were set up from the factory with much better ign, cam timing, and carb jetting. IMO, the times we see here are much more representative of what fairly stock cars of the time could do, and I like to see that!
dont ever underestimate those 340s
I would gladly own either of these sweet rides.
Great racing! Those 340’s sure pack a punch. Would love to see these cars run with better gearing.
Great video nice 2 hear u
GREAT race, AWESOME cars! Mopar driver KNEW the only chance he had was a holeshot win (he got 1 of em) against the BB 4spd chevy (thus the 2 red lights, he was REALLY trying!). CLOSE match-up of some truly AWESOME cars, GREAT RACE (that's why I love drag racing)!
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Great match! Those 340s are like the “Noisy Cricket” from Men in Black - small but powerful. Thanks, as always - truly enjoy these. 🌮 🌮
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All hail the 340 (and the 1974 360). Kept the Muscle Car-era alive along with the 73 and 74 SD 455.
Love ur channel, Bro!
Great matchup!
Love seeing the small block Mopar gapping the big block Chevy. Although I know if the Chevy had the gears things might be different. Good race 🏁 🏎 👍
I thought the Dart would take this one against the 350 horse 396...the 340s were known as big block slayers...but not today! Still very close races.. I'm surprised they were turning those kind of times with the gearing they had...great race, thanks for posting C&Z!
thanks for watching 👍
I'd rather have the Dart
The finish line replay is way cool!!!
Those cars are pretty evenly matched. The fact that the Chevelle is a 4 speed says a lot for the driver’s ability to get a good start. I think the Chevelle would be a definite winner with a 3.73 gear set in the back. I’m a Chrysler guy but the Chevelle was right there.👍👍
I agree I had a 340 70 Duster and I loved it,was a quick car, also had 71 440 rt charger now that was a fast ride low 10s just around 120 mph
Consensus was that the 340's, at 275 hp, were seriously underrated. A friend had that beautiful '68 fastback barracuda with a 349 4-speed. If that thing only had 275 hp from the factory, I'm Ed Iskenderian!
The fart sound effect on the Chevelle might possibly be the best fart sound I've ever heard.
Many big blocks were just a missed shift or an over rev away from losing to a 340
When it came to the Mopar 340 it beat a lot of big blocks.
@@norristammislideshowmulgre877 396 was a boat anchor truck motor
@@Dooguy The Chevelle not only had slower gears for the drag strip.........it's over 500 lbs heavier than the Dart.
Also was rated at alot more hp
@@Dooguy Everyone knows the early 340's were underrated for HP by the factory.
NICE... and surprising! IMO the Dart likely had excellent transmission and torque converter "prep". Add the allowable 2.5" duals, slightly better gearing vs Chevelle and over 500 pounds lighter... Interesting that the original magazine road test had it MPH at 96mph in the 1/4 so the power is in line with stock. I do wonder about the tire sizing though as the Dart seems to have wider tires than many of the "stock" ones on others (pretty sure they all have drag compound rubber). Something else of note is on Nick's Garage Nick dyno tested that air cleaner style on a 440 and it performed surprisingly well... I would guess on the 340 it works very well. Great video!
factory stock rules are in the description, no "drag compound" (lol) allowed.
Goodday C & Z,
What a great video loving the finish line view. So it doesn't matter how powerful your car is it is who crosses the finish line first.
Basically
" You snooze you loose "
Now you have a L34 Chevelle if I remember correctly when are you going to give it a crack down the track.
Considering the gearing is not too bad for highway cruising that Chevelle with a 4 speed was a real suprise.
My 1970 VG 770 Valiant Hardtop is the same body as the Dart just right hand drive, 6 cylinder Hemi Engine with a 3 speed Torqueflite auto & 3.23:1 LSD arse end.
Love to send you some pictures.
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340 swinger fav. Gotta ,70 340 6pak swinger
Both of those cars are finer than frog hair I couldn't chose
Had a 340 Dart back in the day with 3.23 gears. The base 396 was 325 horses, same as the Dart, and I beat several of those. It was never even close
I had a 70 Challenger ta 340 six pack 4-speed 391 gears outran many 396 has 350 327s some 383 and a 440 that little car was quick
Those Mopar 340s are so damn impressive. Almost, but not quite, as impressive as the subtle sound effect @2:22 C&Z for the win!
They didn't call the 340 the BIG block KILLER for nothing!!!!!!!
The 340 Giant Killer! Love that engine!
My friend has a 73 340 Demon with 4 speed and it was crazy fun to drive and crazy fast
I had a 1971 Plymouth Duster with a 340 V-8. That car was pretty fast.
Finish line replays!!? Fuckin rad bro
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Given the choice, I would take the Chevelle. First thing I would put some decent gears in. That being said, that Dart Swinger was very impressive!
Both cars represent real street cars the way most of them came in the day 3.31 3.55 gearing both cars in the high 13s with this kind of gearing is pretty good on bias ply tires remember these cars aren't sporting a overdrive transmission 3.73 or 4.10 gears are cool until your on the highway turning 3800-4000rpm at 75mph isn't but l get both would accelerate better with 3.73-4.56 gears
Something is way off here. The dart obviously was out front all the way down the track but was slower and had a slower ET all three times🤔🧐
Its not how fast , it's how quick. Reaction times and weight difference was the key. Many cars lose to a hole shot.
Both were close
Very!
What settings do you use to film this ? Russet ?
What decade do you use to reference your burns? 90s?
Dart already won.
LOL dart lost on top of that the Chevelle driver obviously had little to no experience
@@GH-el9ch I agree the driver of the dart was not a good driver. That dart would have done much better with a more experienced driver.
Good fun . 😁
had a 71 340 4 speed demon and beat the chevelle 396 just like that
Why is the account called Cars and Zebras (just curious)?
There were 51,455 of those Chevelles built and only 50,287 of the bottom ends blew out of the 396s.
never saw that happen not even once..get ur facts straight
@@GH-el9ch 396s had notoriously week bottom ends but, relax, just playing around.
does extra 50 ci account for extra 500 lbs?
How bout that green mopar next to the chevelle in the intro. 70's charger? So ugly its beautiful. Gotta love the underdog 340
ruclips.net/video/1Dd59l6MG0Y/видео.html
Thanks for the heads up!
70 Chargers still had that Coke bottle shape similar to the 68 and 69 models. 71 is when they changed to the body shape of this green one.
That charger was too heavy, maybe if they tweaked it to the limits of the rules .
Back in the day I had a 68 dart GTS 340 automatic, 69 dart GTS 340/4 speed and a 70 dart swinger with 340/4 speed and 70 cuda 340/ 4speed, those little 340s are no joke if I came up beside something with a 340 in it in my 66 GTO that. Was. Doing 13:88 in the 1/4 I wouldn't even try, 383s 440s, and hemis no problem 340 always just a little bit quicker off the line
Gotta get rid of them highway gears for this.
typical race from back in the day. Its a drivers race for evenly matches rides
Even with the gears and weight disadvantage, the Chevelle won TWO of THREE!
I'd like to have that dart if it's for sale?
Dart.
I've had a big block '70 Chevelle 4-speed and have had a load of Darts. If this Dart also had a 4-speed, it would have been a full second quicker. I know, because I had one. All I did was install bigger cam and ran 13.01 @105 mph with 3:23 gears. Barely entered 4th near the end.
I currently own the only authentic Dart GTS big block Mod Top ever made. Rotisserie restored.
Was your gts from Mr. Norms in Chicago?
@@martinblack7086 Good question. He had a Mod Top GTS? I'll have to do a history check. I do know that my car, before it was restored, sat in a field for quite some time. I have the "before" pictures.
@@firstnamelastname8060 would like to see the pictures!
I know Mr. Norms in Chicago built and customized alot of Mopars. Would be interesting to find out...
I will take the dart in this one. But give me a 70 Chevelle 454 and that dart can kick rocks
I wonder if either of these cars put better gears for drag racing in their rear differential like 411 how much it would improve their quarter mile et’s? Possibly under 13.0 seconds ????
I know Mopar used 3.91 as the performance option in a lot of stuff kind of surprised the Dart didn't have it. Maybe it wasn't an option. While both cars would probably get down the track faster it would also increase the difficulty of getting off the line on the specified tires.. So who knows the true gain.
Chevelle any day
Those dodges were light , the Chevelle is bit more comfortable
I didn’t know a Chevy SS was that heavy. When I saw the weight difference between them I thought that SS better get a good hole shot😆
13.8 with a na small block is as good as a 2004 Mustang GT. Mopar really had their shit together in the late 60s early 70s. You could buy one of these for nothing brand new as well.
You bet back in my mopar day the killer small block is for sure the 340.. 275 hp wink wink more like 325 hp stock or stroke her she was fast!!!
Dart will dust the floors of that chevelle
Well that’s nice of the dart to do that!
Only if he red lights…….which he did twice.
it got dusted
Wow..........over a 500 lb difference in weight between these 2 cars. That's over a 1/4 TON.
I had a 70 Challenger 340 six pack outran multiple 396 is 350s
chevelle owner needs more launch practice with that clutch
he just went around that dart on the top end.
Chevelle did well without enough rear gear. (396 engines were usually 402 by late 1968)
I had one of the first Darts of that body style, and while it only had a slant six, that setup just left the light, no smoking tires, it just left. Won most light to light races with no problem.
MOPAR baby!
Just be sure to never budge your car until it officially turns green!!
Awesome. , Thanks Cars & Zebras , ps my pastor says his church will take any denomination especially tens and twenty’s
Dart all day, I have a 70 340 4 speed fc7 swinger
I'm a bit surprised at how closely matched the cars are. I have owned both, and I would think that the big block would drive away in top gear, but nope the 340 is strong.
A big block Chevelle would have been a winner Everytime .
LOL. Takes a Mope.. to...uh... well. Nice cars for sure.
The chevelle is actually weightd in at 3142
I'M A CHEVY GUY BUT
I'VE SEEN THESE DAMN DART & DUSTER 340'S SAME A ZL1 CAMARO ... I
WOULDN'T BET AGAINST ANY 340
340 all day!!!
Dart!!
340="Little Hemi"
327 L79 = "little hemi" killer
@@GH-el9ch I don't think so
I didn't think the "Swinger" appeared until 72, 73
My '70 Dart is a Swinger
69 was the first year.
Love the cars, love the channel but if ur racing 1/4 mile and ur standing at the 1/8 mile the thats not a "finish line" replay/camera that a halfway replay. Just sayin. Lol!
Dart swinger
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Dart,A Dart!! To hell with that Chevelle that heavy piece of shit!!
That first race made no sense. Both launched at the same time, Dart put a 1,5 cars length on the chevelle and was .10s slower 🤡
Drag racing 101: reaction time isn’t included in ET 🤡