I can only comment on my own experiences. Supercross: -Drive 1 hour to Seattle -World class food in walking distance, organized event experience with competent staff -Arena food and drinks are OK but still expensive MX: -Drive 3 hours to Washougal -Massive traffic getting to and from the track -Minimal hotels an hour away or a crappy campsite on a hill -Bad food, horribly unorganized staff, very hit or miss experience I attend both since they offer world class racing. But what will my casual race fan neighbor let me talk him into? What event will a new race fan consider? To blame MX’s decline in popularity on video games and Facebook is ridiculous.
Han Solo not to mention when you go to Washougal you can only see a few parts of the track at a time. There’s no way to watch the whole race in person.
Same deal with spring creek/Millville. In 2019, the parking for Millville flooded so badly, over half of the people had to get towed. The food was awful. Meanwhile, the supercross in Minneapolis was comfortable, clean, good food, parking was plentiful.
that's so true and it has happened before. motocross was originally what we now call enduro. then it became more spectator oriented and branched off into flat track and motocross.
I think kids aren't riding motocross as much as they used to because of the cost and that you cant ride dirtbikes anywhere anymore. You used to be able to piss off your neighbors back in the day and not get the goddamn cops called on you. Now days you can just about be sued for noise pollution
Agreed. Bike prices have more than doubled, riding areas are cut in half, and medical bills are expensive. Plus our culture has changed, football and motocross are too dangerous for today's parents.
Not only are the bikes expensive, but the gear too. At my local track there is only 2 kids within 4 years of age from me that I know are regulars... I’m 16. Pretty disheartening.
@Aiden Maves Canada is cool but not my cup of tea. I left SoCal for many of the same reasons. I enjoy my freedoms too much to ever leave my country for "free" health care & education.
Supercross and four strokes ruined motocross. Even amateur tracks (if there are any around you) have Supercross jumps throughout. We had big jumps back in the day but they threw you out, not up. I raced pro (1978/79) at the St. Pete Missouri national track and there were three huge jumps on the back straight and man could you soar off those jumps. Tracks in the 70's were tough, technical but safe. I watched Bob Hannah and Roger Decoster battle it out for two 45 minute motos at St. Pete (trans Am)and they both literally fell off their bikes back in the pits. And not a double or tipple jump on the track. Another problem is the requirement to qualify for a pro license through Loreta Lynn's. I got my pro license in 78 by just applying for it. I then started to show up at nationals and ran qualifying moto's the day of the race. The tracks were brutal but doable for an accomplished racer. I quit going to Supercrosses. It's rigged system. Ever notice that the top guy might lap up to 10th or better? That's because the factory teams build the exact track they are going to race on for the riders to practice on. Supercross track builders are required to build jumps to an AMA specification. Height, distance between jumps . etc. So unless your daddy is rich and can build the jumps for you your screwed. I doubt Bob Hannah would ever been a pro motocrosser today with what it takes to get a pro license. He was just a poor kid living in the desert working at DG welding up pipes. No motor home daddy to haul him around instead of graduating high school. Same goes for most of the top riders back "in the day". We can't go back in time. The past for motocross was better and it will never return because the bikes are expensive considering the cost of modifications to be competitive of and don't forget $20/gal race fuel! The tracks are dangerous and built for four strokes (short take off ramps). Roger: You were my sports hero and thank you for all the wonderful memories of watching you race.
@Wall Cutter 4-strokes were forced on us by environmental pressure by a bunch of global enviro-freaks. Interference like that raises, from governments, raise the cost of a product. Don't expect fuel injected KTM's/Husky's to cost what the YZ250 (2-stroke) does. The enviromental case freaks are trying to kill the two stroke, and are raising the cost that contributes into killing the sport. I don't know how old school you are, but in 76, I bought my first brand new dirt bike, with money I earned myself at the age of 12. Bought another at 14, another at 16---only making $1.00/hr part time as a kid, (did not pay taxes under 18 back then either). The things the 'progressive/communistic" FIM are doing is driving up the cost, and that is why the trails and tracks we built are all grown in, and that is what will end this sport with in 20 years I estimate. It may remain as a electric bike racing for the few rich left, like polo, but no kid will ever get the opportunity I had, (a lot of kids had), to get into racing. The only reason why a kid races today, is because dad did it. I had no parental support for 10 years of racing, working in restaurants and paying for my own college, (my first degree), at the time also. I missed the muscle car era, but I did get to enjoy the grass roots of the dirt bike era. Here is a saying I made up; "We are all born into the USA of today, not knowing how great she was yesterday.". That saying can go back to 1900.
You are right. The truth hurts. $10,000 bikes and a lawsuit happy America ruined the sport for the average American. As for the pros, supercross and the AMA ruined the sport with their terrible rules. Supercross is a show. People show up for laser light shows and to get drunk because football is over. Main events are sprints. We can't even get the fastest riders to represent their country at the de nation's anymore.
I grew up racing motocross, there is absolutely nothing like it in the world. I feel it's a shame that USA puts supercross at the top spot of the podium while outdoors is an afterthought. Outdoors will ALWAYS be BETTER than supercross in my opinion, motocross takes way more heart & athletic prowess. That being said these riders are being pushed to their limits, they need to have more off time between the seasons.. happy riding 😁💨👍
I agree with you half way. Although motocross is frickin awesome, it can get boring but hear me out. Motocross the tracks are really open and the motos are long so a lot of times all the heavy hitters get spread out then there isn’t any battles going on ten minutes before the race ends. Supercross it’s a constant battle from the time that gate drops to when the candles are lit
BS, they blame social media for kids not riding?! No one can even afford to ride anymore as it has now become outrageous. 4 strokes dampered the sport. Just my thoughts.
He is 💯% correct, kids today generally don't choose outdoor sports and physical activity like they did a generation ago, that is a fact. In the 1970s and 1980s we had no choice, mostly all activities were outdoor sports, whereas the kids of today are overprotected, woke and generally choose a computer game over exercise.
but you can afford thousands for cell phones and services huh??? And BTW dumbass they do still make 2 strokes and yes you CAN win on one...just have to learn to ride.
Hey man twenty-three-year-old Rider here. And well that is mostly true there are pockets of us young guys that deleted our social media accounts and like to get out there, have fun and get hurt. But that's sure as hell hard to find in the city, mostly in small towns and rural areas.
The fukkking bikes cost $10K!! This is a sport for the wealthy so they can entertain the masses. How is a highschool kid supposed to get $50K to get noticed, lolol
@@jojodashosh8078 oh, I ride all the time too. The trails near my house only have a $450 per year membership fee. But you would need about $100,000 to put together a team to let you compete. You would need a massive monetary infusion in order to even start. It's elitist and disgusting.
Grinning Guise well it would be a bit late to start in high school. most of these guys started around 4 years old and already had sponsors by the time they got into high school. while money is an issue, it's more of a side effect of the supply and demand. at the same time we see other markets open up. while it becomes harder for the average person to go pro in racing we also see motovlogging grow.
Grinning Guise most little league kids look up to their hero player, but don’t expect to become a pro. It’s the same with dirt bikes. Get a used bike, some beginner gear and a parent who will drive you to a field and that kid will have a great damn day. We keep thinking riding motocross means trying to become a professional and racing every weekend. That has nothing to do with it for the masses. Enjoy the sport, ride your bike and grow the community.
There needs to be an actual stock class at the am Nationals, Like stock every thing, revalved suspension , you can change Handle bars , levers , tires , air filters, sprockets ,and that's it Even then there would still be an advantage but a local fast guy that don't have a wealthy family could still show their skills in that class.
I'm from Brazil,of course im going to cheer for my country,but the USA team is my second favorite. Really enjoy the american riders and all the love and determination that is involved on this sport👊✊🏁🇧🇷🇺🇸
I read in the comments that MX is so expensive in US. I live in Germany and we can go for the cheaper bikes too. You can literally find a nice bike for 2-3k in euros. Training costs are 10-20euros. Sure, putting a kid through mx when they are still growing up, adds up on the costs, but they don't ride brand new stuff all the time. Two of my training friends travel every year to California to train for two weeks and they bring lot of stuff back, because it is cheaper there. So I don't know, we do compromises and it works.
The key to the des nation is remembering one thing, it’s for your country and if you ain’t there for that reason let another person do it who is prepared to go all in to win !
It was interesting to hear Justin Cooper point out that in 2018 the US riders all pitted apart from each other. It’s a team event representing your country and they acted like it was a weekend at the track where your buddies might be on the other side of the pits, instead of uniting as a team under one tent
Mctig Mctiggy if you are not willing to do something for the honour of representing your country you’d better stay at home and count your money instead because people remember you for what you do in life and not how much you have in the bank. I was brought up in an era when rj, lechine, ward would do it for their country and to show how good they actually were against the rest in the world, maybe this lot are scared of being beaten 🤔
Mctig Mctiggy it’s because in the riders career the best in the world comes top, names and reputations are made worldwide in the desnations and that’s why rj, Jeff ward, lechine, o Mara, and many others are still held in high esteem today decades after they rode to win for their country, I think some of them simply are afraid of getting beaten by European riders who get paid nothing in comparison to them myself 🤔
Absolutely true....modern technology is turning youth into lazy fucking zombies. You do your girly child like "LOL'ing"...put your cell phone away for a few days and don't even look at it. U CAN NOT do it. Stay away from a TV and/or video games and sitting on your fat lazy ass for a week...U CAN NOT do it. As far as cost goes yes everything is pricey but you don't have to buy brand new either. I see 1 or 2 year old MX bikes on C/L all the time that are still basically brand new for half the price of new. You have no problem spending thousands of dollars on cell phones and services, or video game systems and games, and huge 4D TV's to play them on. You Young people are just getting too freaking lazy to go after anything. Go play your shit ass video games...in a few years you'll be at an MX race someplace too fat and lazy to do anything thinking "I wished I had done this when I was younger"
@@keithreinking6670 it takes a new motor after every race and you need a practice bike and a race bike, you also need to travel to every state they're racing , along with parts if you are your own mechanic , roughly $80,000 You basically need to come from a rich or wealthy family, which most of these racers dont admit, they all say they struggled alot , with what??? Just getting better because they have most stuff prepped for them
Yep... A social media account is free. A game console is 300 bucks. A bike + all the necessary crap is thousands if not tens of thousands. And to compete at the level of this video, probably hundreds of thousands. It's a millionaire sport.
Thank God I raced in the 70s. I'd NEVER be able to today and probably never even rode dirt bikes. That in itself is very sad to think about. We were able to ride dirt bikes behind my house. Best time of my life. We LIVED back there.
My view of the declining industry is the lack of places to ride and threat of being ticked or having your bike impounded when riding. I used to ride from my house now I have to load up and drive somewhere “legal” to ride. It’s the law makers
I feel for you guys, I really do. I live in Oregon and we have so much riding available. 1hr drive from the sand dunes, 15 mins to any mountain around, and quite a bit of outdoor tracks. Ryan Huffman's parents property where he grew up is about a 40 min drive from me and they have two moto tracks and a supercross style track. By invite only, but you get the point. Come to Oregon guys, you wont regret it.
I agree 100% I live in Connecticut and it's extremely difficult to find places to ride that simulate motocross it's usually riding in the woods illegally
It's a cultural change in central California we had a few places close down. A decline in support system. Green sticker red sticker season... no factory support of our riding areas. No common riding community, we're too scattered about
If you truly love motocross, some of the sentences put together in this video make your heart jump "It seems like loading up your dirtbike and sitting in the car for an hour to go ride somewhere, became a chore". Really hit home with that one.
Such rad productions... I love this series! America had a bad year, we will be back. I would love to see Herlings v. Tomac (on a good day). Also great to see the 841 make an appearance!!
Just because we havnt won the MXDN in awhile doesnt mean squat.If so then the french are the fastest riders on the planet.....which they are ...NOT....case fukn closed. !!!
@@waynogarfield4556 Thank you. We've had some bad luck and some mishaps. Hell we won 13 years in a row from the 80s into the 90s! We should have won the year Webb was on the team too. I think we can win this year but we need good luck and starts, not 28th! And I'm glad Tomac is not going. I don't think he even has any national pride. Kaw stay out of it. The team we have this year really want to represent.
@@vintagemxer9165 Sorry but not a single one of todays riders was even born in the 80s or early 90s. MXoN at Maggiors Webb crashed, but Herlings crashed too, not to forget it was his first 450 race ever, and still he was the fastest guy there. Me I'm from Germany, and after Lommel our team sucks every year, even at Red Bud when he had our top three on the line, and normally they should have made it on the podium, but they were back to nothing again. But to me it's no prob to say the other teams and nations are better, so why is it so often that hard for the Americans to admit that their days as the best mx nation are gone? Your riders are still good, and some of them are great at SX, but in MX there are better ones today. Kenny once was the only guy on one level with Herlings, but since his injuries he's not the old one anymore, and I think he never will be.Sad but true. Is it so hard to say Tomsc is great but some Euros surely are better? If you follow the GPs you should have noticed the Dutch guys are winning everything today, going 1-2 at the last rounds and also strong at MX2, that all on hard soil. Should be VERY hard for any other team to beat them especially on their homeground sand.
Dang, bringing journalism to the sport and asking questions that may actually change the sport for the better. Well done, looking forward to the rest of the episodes!
Being someone who watches both the AMAs and the MXGPs, you just can't ignore how much better guys like Cairolli, Prado, Herlings, and about five or six more are than Americans. And it isn't because we don't have the talent in the U.S. It's like Roczen was saying, they're doing an insane amount of races. You can't tell me we couldn't do just motocross over here. Heck, supercross is our money pool because we make it our money pool. They do like 17 or 18 outdoor races a year spread out over like six or seven months over there and still make it work. Cut the supercross season down to twelve just like outdoors, then start outdoors the second week of May like we've always done. That gives them like five weeks between seasons. Now it's even more grueling because right after outdoors we want the top guys to keep practicing for the des nations, then after that the Monster Energy cup in October, then it's time to start supercross training again. Like Kenny said, how on earth do we think that is even remotely safe for anyone. I don't care how in shape you are, nobody can do that kind of schedule for more than five years or so. And we're having great riders like Dungey and Villopoto retire young because of it. The only reason Windham stayed as long as he did was because he was already like 30 when we started this stupid schedule.
You're totally true but I have to admit the Euro's schedule isn't easier at all. They start with 3 pre season races in early feb, then got 18 - 20 GPs till mid sept, and inbetween they got their own national championships, with many riders racing them in different states. So most of them also got no much off weekends at all. Not to forget all GPs and many other races are run about the whole weekend, without any rest on sunday like the Americans got the whole season. So be sure the Euros' season is very hard as well.
I don't know ow you can say the world championships are working well, when they can't fill a 40 racer gate, and waste the entire industries resources with races in 3rd world nations who do not buy bikes. To me, it looks like the world championships are failing faster than the USA championships. What we have in this sport is the FIM operating under global government interests more than us being able to race interests.
Kenny nailed it! There is nothing harder on a Professional athlete than Motocross / Supercross. With that being said, I love nothing more then watching each and every race, but these guys don’t just deserve, they need a damn break! The greedy promoters and manufacturers need to make some needed changes IMMEDIATELY.
i also think about Dangerboy 38. I was surprised about the US not winning Red Bud De Nations. Locally I'm just one of the very few native americans that grew up racing but sadly ended after my parents split, Oh man! im now 41 and how I 'used to' chose to live healthy and fit only because I thought I'd one day race again! Yes, I too can feel the fading of American Motocross for the local rider. Oh Racing spirit of Phoenix, AZ where can I begin?!....[silents]. Motivation starts with me
@@mctigmctiggy1475 yea I definitely see how its easier to make money/advertise in supercross but to the true fans who actually ride, motocross will always be more important I feel like. It's just tough to attract the same size crowd to an outdoors compared to a stadium with a roof (possibly) and seats for everyone
@@mctigmctiggy1475 I get that. But there are true fans. People who truly just love to ride. Plenty of guys would still line up with zero sponsors not a banner or add in sight just the glory of being the fastest person that day and plenty of people would still go spectate
Give them a longer break between SX and MX. And do away with the MEC. Yes the MEC is exciting and fills the gap between the MX and SX seasons...but it's killing the focus on MX.
Na leave the MEC just drop 2 races from sx and two from mx. Then they will actually wamt to race mxon. Mx will always be second class to sx because its not as good of a spectator sport. Spectators = money = investment from teams/tv/brands/other companies
I think we need to combine SX and MX into the same championship. 4-5 rounds of MX right after the SX season all leading to one over all champion. Then a long enough off season for riders to recover and the teams to improve.
Yeah but don't forget it's motor sport. Compared to all kinds of car racing or road bike racing it can be still quite cheap. Think only trial might be even cheaper.
I think they are just talking about AMA riders vs FIM but they should have chosen their words better. It is like saying an American NHlL team wins the Stanley Cup when most of their roster is Canadian, or saying the BlueJays or Raptors are Canadian teams when there is rarely a Canadian on the squad.
Seeing this hurts because I watched stewart, carmichael, reed, dungey, and villopoto ever since i was little and just those few gone took a lot from this sport. The passion of racing went with them.
it's not video games it's the fucking cost of dirtbikes. it's one of the most expensive sports out there and if you don't live in socal your local tracks are most likely pretty lame too
I totally agree about the kids of this generation( I am actually in the demographic of 13-18 that are sucked into there phones) all they care about is social media I just love it even more when I can grab my bike after school and ride on our property for hours and I love going to Hollister hills even more.
20 round championship alternating indoor/outdoor venues. Mid-March to mid-September with three week break in June. Then everyone gets an off-season. 🤷♂️
growing up in the mid 80's to early 90's, motocross was life, SoCal was the mecca and the sport was huge.Kids today will never see the sport at that level.
Fuck racing, and riding just gets you into trouble while wasting more money than an eighth. Its not social media, drugs or video games, its pussy land owners and the price of just riding, owning a truck or trailer to move it and a place to safely store the bike... nvm racing.
@@isaiahwilson6225 That needs a couple thousand to revive. Bikes are so far out of most peoples price range these days. Yea old bikes are cheap however the cost of living is so outrageous these days you need to very careful how you select your hobbies. Just routine maintenance like top end, fork seals, chain/sprocket, fluids, filters, tires etc. It adds up quick.
WTFcamper69 I feel enduro & hard enduro is really growing in the US. I just got back into it, used to race AMA harescrambles and motocross as a kid. A lot of older dudes are getting back into it as well.
@@stevenllewellyn8906 "hard enduro" is not fun at all, it's just extreme technical stuff,I like riding free in the desert or in the wood , I want to feel like if I ride a horse not a donkey.
Honestly I like supercross better I find the racing is more intense. They just need to cut the number of erasers in the main event down in half. The lappers always mess up the racing and there's no point of them even really being there. It is two different types of being fast though supercross is more skill or is Motocross takes less skill but more endurance.
Mareno Oomen I think they uploaded the wrong video before this one. it was only up for a couple of minutes. They then deleted it and then uploaded this
As a kid that rides I love loading up my bike and going to a track it is truly an awesome feeling I prefer motocross tracks over supercross but what I do in the after noon is go down the road to my friends house get him to get his bike ride back and then ride the trails in the back of my property all afternoon it is my escape its what I love and I wouldn't give it up for anything.
The reasoning given at 6:13 about why less kids are riding completely misses the mark. Less kids are riding now due to so many parents trying to keep their kids away from motorcycles because in their eyes, motorcycles are the most dangerous thing that their kid could become passionate about so they don't buy/let them ride them dirtbikes. They would rather have their kids play more conventional sports like soccer where there is less risk of injury.
It is what it is. Most people would agree- Supercross is easier to watch/follow on TV or even at the stadium over outdoor MX. MX sometimes gets boring to watch on TV & hard to see at the track. I grew up in the 60s/70s with Evel Knievel so I love all jumps. Sport is way better with them. If USA riders are too busy here with our Racing year round, so be it. By the way, Im 60yrs old still racing MX.
I’m 13 and I love moto I don’t see y these kids now don’t go outside and have fun with other stuff other than a video game But also now unlike back in the 80-90s u can’t ride anywhere.
I can remember when the wage of doing work was good here in the USA ! A fast car cost 3500.00 and a dirt bike was 1200.00 and at the time my wage was 23.11 an hour in 1980 now my wage is 35.00 doing the same job and that is only in the last 2 years it stayed at 20.00 an hour from 1989 until now... THE GLORY OF KING Kenny Roberts gave every kid out there to be like him!!!
Kids need to do this more than anything nowadays it teaches them respect and responsibility I love this sport I'm the only one that rides in my school I love this video it literally describes the way I feel
As an American, I can safely say you guys will own MXGP for a long while to come from my view, but I'm actually enjoying the hell out of watching Cairoli, Herlings, Prado, Gajser, Febvre, Olsen, Searle, Watson, Sterry, and the likes kicking ass though.....I mean, who do we have over there besides Harrison, Sanayei, & Root right now anyway? (No disrespect to those guys, but I'm not just talking about a few select riders flying over there just for the MX of Nations either)........for real, our grass roots over here are as fouled up as an old 1973 Penton Mudlark 125 running on a tank full of last years ethanol (smh)......right now seems all we got is helicopter parents, cell phone / gaming babysitters, climate change hawks, gov't regs, rising insurance rates, a dying middle class, disappearing land & tracks, soaring costs for bikes that don't even run, EDM, gender studies / post-modern influences, and big pharma killing all the rest not already glued to their damn phones......not to mention we already skipped 1 generation, & skipping the 2nd now......it's bad.....& we need to get our heads outta our asses before we see any new serious outdoor MX talent.
This is probably one of the most imporant episodes ive watched on the sport so far. such an interesting perspective from american riders i hadnt thought of, shameful to be honest given how much i follow the sport. i have hoped and do hope, far more now, they some how get a less demanding non stop life style. must take so much fight. unfortunately the two continents will never overlap due to their structure. always respected their athletes however this makes things more clear. if their tacks were the same it would help also but still the odds would be harder on them due to fatigue from what was explained in this video . mx is the sport for me, sx alot less. GPs make everything else dull. but the whole sport is on big famly
Remember my name folks....I’m changing the Mx...I love motorcycles and there’s nothing more I wanna do than race. I will bring it back and I will bring the heat. And you can bet your tale I’m gonna do it on a Suzuki.
There’s definitely a lot of racing these days, it’s great as a fan to be able to watch supercross or motocross races almost every single weekend in a row, but I think the time has come to shorten up the championships a little, maybe start by knocking a round or 2 off each series, give the riders a couple week break here or there, especially a bigger gap between the end of sx and start of mx.
I think the Americans need to start racing in mxgp motocross championship or there needs to be a true WORLD mxgp supercross championship to replace mxgp and American only supercross
I agree, don't know how it would happen though. Big sponsors like Red Bull and Monster bring so much, but if they decide more viewing and exposure for their brand is Supercross, then automatically it knocks down as priority for teams / riders. I don't buy into the Americans not having desire for mxon because of schedule. it's money from Vegas super cup. So close to the Des Nations. Des Nations has been around much longer. Why not make the Super Cup mid November. That way it doesn't interfere with anything. Des Nations should be the spectacle of the sport. Like it always should be. Ama Supercross is what one round longer than it was in the 90's ??? The Americans then would have given their right arm for a chance to represent America. The industry and scene is all about corporations and sponsorships, which I get, but I think it's made the divide between America and GP'S even more. As a fan o just want to see all the best riders fighting it out. Either that or just hit reset and go back the 90's 2 strokes only braaaaaaaap 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They don't want to deal with different cultures/languages/food etc. and homesick for being with family and friends and their own bed etc. No, I don't blame anyone for staying here to race. I respect Brad Lackey for doing it and having it all finally pay off for him.
In California we have green stickers which bikes that can be year round and then other bikes can only be ridden at certain times of the year. It’s trash when the government tells you when you’re allowed to use your own stuff!
Such a cool feeling being part of the new season. Thanks for the opportunity guys! Can’t wait to see the next episode🤘🏼
Jeff Walker I was wearing my J-Walk shirt while watching this... awesome too see you featured
Are you getting interviewed at some of the next episodes?
Jeff we need you to get over to American Supercross, make this Supercross Cash, spice up the 2020 SX season brother!
Jeff Walker heck yeah dude I’m stoked for you!
HELL YAH @Jeff Walker !
Love seeing jwalk841 on this episode, hes a true blue all american privateer that represents what this sport means to all of us
RustyDemonsMX thanks for the love man! So excited to be featured in the series🤘🏼
My man Walker!!!
I thought the same thing. Was all yaaaas. J walk showing what motocross really is
I can only comment on my own experiences.
Supercross:
-Drive 1 hour to Seattle
-World class food in walking distance, organized event experience with competent staff
-Arena food and drinks are OK but still expensive
MX:
-Drive 3 hours to Washougal
-Massive traffic getting to and from the track
-Minimal hotels an hour away or a crappy campsite on a hill
-Bad food, horribly unorganized staff, very hit or miss experience
I attend both since they offer world class racing. But what will my casual race fan neighbor let me talk him into? What event will a new race fan consider?
To blame MX’s decline in popularity on video games and Facebook is ridiculous.
Han Solo not to mention when you go to Washougal you can only see a few parts of the track at a time. There’s no way to watch the whole race in person.
That's true, whoever marketed and designed Supercross is a genius!
Same deal with spring creek/Millville. In 2019, the parking for Millville flooded so badly, over half of the people had to get towed. The food was awful. Meanwhile, the supercross in Minneapolis was comfortable, clean, good food, parking was plentiful.
@@lk6912 the guy that design supercross killed his partner in business and went to jail, or something like that.. mike goldwin i think his name is
that's so true and it has happened before. motocross was originally what we now call enduro.
then it became more spectator oriented and branched off into flat track and motocross.
#841 jeff walker hitting the big time now, love it, he deffo is a star!!!!!
Really wish these episodes were longer than 10 minutes. One of my favorite shows.
It's 10min57 dude
I think kids aren't riding motocross as much as they used to because of the cost and that you cant ride dirtbikes anywhere anymore. You used to be able to piss off your neighbors back in the day and not get the goddamn cops called on you. Now days you can just about be sued for noise pollution
I think electric bikes are the answer to this delehma. Piss people off in silence with torque that can make you pee your pants.
Agreed. Bike prices have more than doubled, riding areas are cut in half, and medical bills are expensive. Plus our culture has changed, football and motocross are too dangerous for today's parents.
Barrier for entry is huge compared to the two stroke days
Not only are the bikes expensive, but the gear too. At my local track there is only 2 kids within 4 years of age from me that I know are regulars... I’m 16. Pretty disheartening.
@Aiden Maves Canada is cool but not my cup of tea. I left SoCal for many of the same reasons. I enjoy my freedoms too much to ever leave my country for "free" health care & education.
Supercross and four strokes ruined motocross. Even amateur tracks (if there are any around you) have Supercross jumps throughout. We had big jumps back in the day but they threw you out, not up. I raced pro (1978/79) at the St. Pete Missouri national track and there were three huge jumps on the back straight and man could you soar off those jumps. Tracks in the 70's were tough, technical but safe. I watched Bob Hannah and Roger Decoster battle it out for two 45 minute motos at St. Pete (trans Am)and they both literally fell off their bikes back in the pits. And not a double or tipple jump on the track.
Another problem is the requirement to qualify for a pro license through Loreta Lynn's. I got my pro license in 78 by just applying for it. I then started to show up at nationals and ran qualifying moto's the day of the race. The tracks were brutal but doable for an accomplished racer.
I quit going to Supercrosses. It's rigged system. Ever notice that the top guy might lap up to 10th or better? That's because the factory teams build the exact track they are going to race on for the riders to practice on. Supercross track builders are required to build jumps to an AMA specification. Height, distance between jumps . etc. So unless your daddy is rich and can build the jumps for you your screwed.
I doubt Bob Hannah would ever been a pro motocrosser today with what it takes to get a pro license. He was just a poor kid living in the desert working at DG welding up pipes. No motor home daddy to haul him around instead of graduating high school.
Same goes for most of the top riders back "in the day".
We can't go back in time. The past for motocross was better and it will never return because the bikes are expensive considering the cost of modifications to be competitive of and don't forget $20/gal race fuel! The tracks are dangerous and built for four strokes (short take off ramps).
Roger: You were my sports hero and thank you for all the wonderful memories of watching you race.
@Wall Cutter 4-strokes were forced on us by environmental pressure by a bunch of global enviro-freaks. Interference like that raises, from governments, raise the cost of a product. Don't expect fuel injected KTM's/Husky's to cost what the YZ250 (2-stroke) does. The enviromental case freaks are trying to kill the two stroke, and are raising the cost that contributes into killing the sport. I don't know how old school you are, but in 76, I bought my first brand new dirt bike, with money I earned myself at the age of 12. Bought another at 14, another at 16---only making $1.00/hr part time as a kid, (did not pay taxes under 18 back then either). The things the 'progressive/communistic" FIM are doing is driving up the cost, and that is why the trails and tracks we built are all grown in, and that is what will end this sport with in 20 years I estimate. It may remain as a electric bike racing for the few rich left, like polo, but no kid will ever get the opportunity I had, (a lot of kids had), to get into racing. The only reason why a kid races today, is because dad did it. I had no parental support for 10 years of racing, working in restaurants and paying for my own college, (my first degree), at the time also. I missed the muscle car era, but I did get to enjoy the grass roots of the dirt bike era. Here is a saying I made up; "We are all born into the USA of today, not knowing how great she was yesterday.". That saying can go back to 1900.
You are right. The truth hurts. $10,000 bikes and a lawsuit happy America ruined the sport for the average American. As for the pros, supercross and the AMA ruined the sport with their terrible rules. Supercross is a show. People show up for laser light shows and to get drunk because football is over. Main events are sprints. We can't even get the fastest riders to represent their country at the de nation's anymore.
I'm happy that I grew up knowing what it's like to play outside👍🏻 No phones, computers, game consoles or tablets.
Omg I miss seeing the ole 250r’s, shit even the old 250x that used to be around.... good old days.
I grew up racing motocross, there is absolutely nothing like it in the world. I feel it's a shame that USA puts supercross at the top spot of the podium while outdoors is an afterthought. Outdoors will ALWAYS be BETTER than supercross in my opinion, motocross takes way more heart & athletic prowess. That being said these riders are being pushed to their limits, they need to have more off time between the seasons.. happy riding 😁💨👍
I agree with you half way. Although motocross is frickin awesome, it can get boring but hear me out. Motocross the tracks are really open and the motos are long so a lot of times all the heavy hitters get spread out then there isn’t any battles going on ten minutes before the race ends. Supercross it’s a constant battle from the time that gate drops to when the candles are lit
BS, they blame social media for kids not riding?! No one can even afford to ride anymore as it has now become outrageous. 4 strokes dampered the sport. Just my thoughts.
Social media plays a major role more so than the price increase
He is 💯% correct, kids today generally don't choose outdoor sports and physical activity like they did a generation ago, that is a fact. In the 1970s and 1980s we had no choice, mostly all activities were outdoor sports, whereas the kids of today are overprotected, woke and generally choose a computer game over exercise.
but you can afford thousands for cell phones and services huh??? And BTW dumbass they do still make 2 strokes and yes you CAN win on one...just have to learn to ride.
Hey man twenty-three-year-old Rider here. And well that is mostly true there are pockets of us young guys that deleted our social media accounts and like to get out there, have fun and get hurt. But that's sure as hell hard to find in the city, mostly in small towns and rural areas.
You can still buy two strokes
The fukkking bikes cost $10K!! This is a sport for the wealthy so they can entertain the masses. How is a highschool kid supposed to get $50K to get noticed, lolol
Nah dude im broke and i ride every weekend, but im also probably broke bc of racing and buying a brand new bike
@@jojodashosh8078 oh, I ride all the time too. The trails near my house only have a $450 per year membership fee. But you would need about $100,000 to put together a team to let you compete. You would need a massive monetary infusion in order to even start. It's elitist and disgusting.
Grinning Guise well it would be a bit late to start in high school. most of these guys started around 4 years old and already had sponsors by the time they got into high school.
while money is an issue, it's more of a side effect of the supply and demand.
at the same time we see other markets open up. while it becomes harder for the average person to go pro in racing we also see motovlogging grow.
Grinning Guise most little league kids look up to their hero player, but don’t expect to become a pro. It’s the same with dirt bikes. Get a used bike, some beginner gear and a parent who will drive you to a field and that kid will have a great damn day. We keep thinking riding motocross means trying to become a professional and racing every weekend. That has nothing to do with it for the masses. Enjoy the sport, ride your bike and grow the community.
There needs to be an actual stock class at the am Nationals,
Like stock every thing, revalved suspension , you can change Handle bars , levers , tires , air filters, sprockets ,and that's it
Even then there would still be an advantage but a local fast guy that don't have a wealthy family could still show their skills in that class.
Walker #841 fans?
Hell yeah! He's an inspiration
MotoTube SRB hell ya!
Thanks so much guys🤘🏼🤘🏼
On board!
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Finally it’s back I have watch this series so many times thanks redbull please like this
I'm from Brazil,of course im going to cheer for my country,but the USA team is my second favorite. Really enjoy the american riders and all the love and determination that is involved on this sport👊✊🏁🇧🇷🇺🇸
I read in the comments that MX is so expensive in US. I live in Germany and we can go for the cheaper bikes too. You can literally find a nice bike for 2-3k in euros. Training costs are 10-20euros. Sure, putting a kid through mx when they are still growing up, adds up on the costs, but they don't ride brand new stuff all the time. Two of my training friends travel every year to California to train for two weeks and they bring lot of stuff back, because it is cheaper there. So I don't know, we do compromises and it works.
8ii9 you 1888 ou iii2p
well, you compromise because, quite frankly, you can afford to. We pretty much have to fund our own healthcare and retirements here in the States.
The key to the des nation is remembering one thing, it’s for your country and if you ain’t there for that reason let another person do it who is prepared to go all in to win !
I think this clearly shows where some of the current top US riders focus on its money. Even though they are already doing very well.
It was interesting to hear Justin Cooper point out that in 2018 the US riders all pitted apart from each other. It’s a team event representing your country and they acted like it was a weekend at the track where your buddies might be on the other side of the pits, instead of uniting as a team under one tent
Mctig Mctiggy if you are not willing to do something for the honour of representing your country you’d better stay at home and count your money instead because people remember you for what you do in life and not how much you have in the bank.
I was brought up in an era when rj, lechine, ward would do it for their country and to show how good they actually were against the rest in the world, maybe this lot are scared of being beaten 🤔
Mctig Mctiggy it’s because in the riders career the best in the world comes top, names and reputations are made worldwide in the desnations and that’s why rj, Jeff ward, lechine, o Mara, and many others are still held in high esteem today decades after they rode to win for their country, I think some of them simply are afraid of getting beaten by European riders who get paid nothing in comparison to them myself 🤔
Lol blaming video games for people not buying bikes... how about how expensive everything related to mx is
It's a rich man's sport now
Absolutely true....modern technology is turning youth into lazy fucking zombies. You do your girly child like "LOL'ing"...put your cell phone away for a few days and don't even look at it. U CAN NOT do it. Stay away from a TV and/or video games and sitting on your fat lazy ass for a week...U CAN NOT do it. As far as cost goes yes everything is pricey but you don't have to buy brand new either. I see 1 or 2 year old MX bikes on C/L all the time that are still basically brand new for half the price of new. You have no problem spending thousands of dollars on cell phones and services, or video game systems and games, and huge 4D TV's to play them on. You Young people are just getting too freaking lazy to go after anything. Go play your shit ass video games...in a few years you'll be at an MX race someplace too fat and lazy to do anything thinking "I wished I had done this when I was younger"
@@keithreinking6670 it takes a new motor after every race and you need a practice bike and a race bike, you also need to travel to every state they're racing , along with parts if you are your own mechanic , roughly $80,000
You basically need to come from a rich or wealthy family, which most of these racers dont admit, they all say they struggled alot , with what??? Just getting better because they have most stuff prepped for them
Yep... A social media account is free. A game console is 300 bucks. A bike + all the necessary crap is thousands if not tens of thousands. And to compete at the level of this video, probably hundreds of thousands. It's a millionaire sport.
Thank God I raced in the 70s. I'd NEVER be able to today and probably never even rode dirt bikes. That in itself is very sad to think about. We were able to ride dirt bikes behind my house. Best time of my life. We LIVED back there.
Guys, I think it’s time for America’s secret weapon... Ronnie Mac
Arm Pump Ronnie Mac is not a good rider at all
Josh English it’s a joke 🧐🧐🧐
I know it is a joke but it’s a fact
Would be nice to see a 40 minute short film of this! I'd love to hear the thoughts from all the riders. Thanks RedBull!
Look for the movie 40 years a day it’s about the history of the des nations and covers the buddy’s creek mxdn
My view of the declining industry is the lack of places to ride and threat of being ticked or having your bike impounded when riding. I used to ride from my house now I have to load up and drive somewhere “legal” to ride. It’s the law makers
Lawmakers and greedy fucking companies
Agree, I feel Wisconsin is anti bike
I feel for you guys, I really do. I live in Oregon and we have so much riding available. 1hr drive from the sand dunes, 15 mins to any mountain around, and quite a bit of outdoor tracks. Ryan Huffman's parents property where he grew up is about a 40 min drive from me and they have two moto tracks and a supercross style track. By invite only, but you get the point. Come to Oregon guys, you wont regret it.
I agree 100% I live in Connecticut and it's extremely difficult to find places to ride that simulate motocross it's usually riding in the woods illegally
It's a cultural change in central California we had a few places close down. A decline in support system. Green sticker red sticker season... no factory support of our riding areas. No common riding community, we're too scattered about
Roger DeCoster is the best,, grit and wisdom.. I should have chased a dream 25 yrs ago.
I grew up riding to my practice tracks in Jersey. Basically huge sand pits. There was always some free land to access. That no longer exists.
If you truly love motocross, some of the sentences put together in this video make your heart jump "It seems like loading up your dirtbike and sitting in the car for an hour to go ride somewhere, became a chore". Really hit home with that one.
Loading up, and the hour drive are some of the fondest memories I have between the motos. Shame people can't sit back and enjoy the ride
@@zealobiron Forreal man
Literally why ask Tony Alessi's opinion
Cancer...100% agree with you.
Mike( butt boy), Jeff and tony 🖕
Whats even crazier is somehow he was speaking the truth. Something something stopped clock, right?
@@richardupyurass2379 I wish I could have been born as his Kid !
@Aiden Maves I make my rounds 🤷
Such rad productions... I love this series! America had a bad year, we will be back. I would love to see Herlings v. Tomac (on a good day). Also great to see the 841 make an appearance!!
Herlings need to be put in his place.
@@vintagemxer9165 Tomac is nowhere near Herlings at the moment id guarantee him going to 1 round of the outdoor stateside and he would smoke him
Just because we havnt won the MXDN in awhile doesnt mean squat.If so then the french are the fastest riders on the planet.....which they are ...NOT....case fukn closed. !!!
@@waynogarfield4556 Thank you. We've had some bad luck and some mishaps. Hell we won 13 years in a row from the 80s into the 90s! We should have won the year Webb was on the team too. I think we can win this year but we need good luck and starts, not 28th! And I'm glad Tomac is not going. I don't think he even has any national pride. Kaw stay out of it. The team we have this year really want to represent.
@@vintagemxer9165 Sorry but not a single one of todays riders was even born in the 80s or early 90s. MXoN at Maggiors Webb crashed, but Herlings crashed too, not to forget it was his first 450 race ever, and still he was the fastest guy there. Me I'm from Germany, and after Lommel our team sucks every year, even at Red Bud when he had our top three on the line, and normally they should have made it on the podium, but they were back to nothing again. But to me it's no prob to say the other teams and nations are better, so why is it so often that hard for the Americans to admit that their days as the best mx nation are gone? Your riders are still good, and some of them are great at SX, but in MX there are better ones today.
Kenny once was the only guy on one level with Herlings, but since his injuries he's not the old one anymore, and I think he never will be.Sad but true. Is it so hard to say Tomsc is great but some Euros surely are better?
If you follow the GPs you should have noticed the Dutch guys are winning everything today, going 1-2 at the last rounds and also strong at MX2, that all on hard soil. Should be VERY hard for any other team to beat them especially on their homeground sand.
I was wondering why the first upload was an episode of MX World.
Sleapy I’m guessing they didn’t mean to upload that. But I can’t wait to see that one either.
Moto is so amazing but expensive that is why so many soccer field are being built. All you need is a $10soccer ball.
You want to see 1500 riders on one line go to the desert 100 in Odessa Washington
Dang, bringing journalism to the sport and asking questions that may actually change the sport for the better. Well done, looking forward to the rest of the episodes!
Love that Walker was in this! #841. Great vid
Being someone who watches both the AMAs and the MXGPs, you just can't ignore how much better guys like Cairolli, Prado, Herlings, and about five or six more are than Americans. And it isn't because we don't have the talent in the U.S. It's like Roczen was saying, they're doing an insane amount of races. You can't tell me we couldn't do just motocross over here. Heck, supercross is our money pool because we make it our money pool. They do like 17 or 18 outdoor races a year spread out over like six or seven months over there and still make it work. Cut the supercross season down to twelve just like outdoors, then start outdoors the second week of May like we've always done. That gives them like five weeks between seasons. Now it's even more grueling because right after outdoors we want the top guys to keep practicing for the des nations, then after that the Monster Energy cup in October, then it's time to start supercross training again. Like Kenny said, how on earth do we think that is even remotely safe for anyone. I don't care how in shape you are, nobody can do that kind of schedule for more than five years or so. And we're having great riders like Dungey and Villopoto retire young because of it. The only reason Windham stayed as long as he did was because he was already like 30 when we started this stupid schedule.
You're totally true but I have to admit the Euro's schedule isn't easier at all. They start with 3 pre season races in early feb, then got 18 - 20 GPs till mid sept, and inbetween they got their own national championships, with many riders racing them in different states. So most of them also got no much off weekends at all. Not to forget all GPs and many other races are run about the whole weekend, without any rest on sunday like the Americans got the whole season. So be sure the Euros' season is very hard as well.
I don't know ow you can say the world championships are working well, when they can't fill a 40 racer gate, and waste the entire industries resources with races in 3rd world nations who do not buy bikes. To me, it looks like the world championships are failing faster than the USA championships. What we have in this sport is the FIM operating under global government interests more than us being able to race interests.
Kenny nailed it! There is nothing harder on a Professional athlete than Motocross / Supercross. With that being said, I love nothing more then watching each and every race, but these guys don’t just deserve, they need a damn break! The greedy promoters and manufacturers need to make some needed changes IMMEDIATELY.
I LOVE this show!!!!!! Longer episodes please
America needs to make riding great again more than it's ever been!! Because when your riding, that's when your truly free!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
So cool to see Jeff Walker on this video!!!
My one of my favorite series on RUclips. Can’t wait till next episode. 👍👍
Great series. I wish they were longer and more of them!
Dang that last line from Ian gave me chills. I have a good feeling about Zach and Jason.
i also think about Dangerboy 38.
I was surprised about the US not winning Red Bud De Nations. Locally I'm just one of the very few native americans that grew up racing but sadly ended after my parents split, Oh man! im now 41 and how I 'used to' chose to live healthy and fit only because I thought I'd one day race again! Yes, I too can feel the fading of American Motocross for the local rider.
Oh Racing spirit of Phoenix, AZ where can I begin?!....[silents]. Motivation starts with me
👍 for Walker #841
Where was he?
Finally season 5 episode 1 love this show I want more 👍🤘
It sucks America isn't keeping up in motocross. Supercross is cool but they should shorten the season maybe and focus more on motocross
I agree motorcross was here for a long time before supercross
@@mctigmctiggy1475 yea I definitely see how its easier to make money/advertise in supercross but to the true fans who actually ride, motocross will always be more important I feel like. It's just tough to attract the same size crowd to an outdoors compared to a stadium with a roof (possibly) and seats for everyone
@@mctigmctiggy1475 I get that. But there are true fans. People who truly just love to ride. Plenty of guys would still line up with zero sponsors not a banner or add in sight just the glory of being the fastest person that day and plenty of people would still go spectate
MX Nations is the biggest race in the world for every other country. In the US it’s just below MEC and Straight Rhythm.
I remember riding my first Italjet 50 in 77. Little fire breather. Especially after a Honda MR50. If only I could go back in time.
6:30 Jeff Walker ✊✊✊✊✊✊✊
I'm an Aussie and i even felt real bad for Anderson the year he got landed on....He kicked arse and deserved the win.
Great job with this video. I hope motocross is able to make a comeback. The outdoor nationals were always my favorite.
Give them a longer break between SX and MX. And do away with the MEC. Yes the MEC is exciting and fills the gap between the MX and SX seasons...but it's killing the focus on MX.
Na leave the MEC just drop 2 races from sx and two from mx. Then they will actually wamt to race mxon. Mx will always be second class to sx because its not as good of a spectator sport. Spectators = money = investment from teams/tv/brands/other companies
Wooo shout out to you guys for getting clips of Jeff walker. Man didn't want this video to end!
I think we need to combine SX and MX into the same championship. 4-5 rounds of MX right after the SX season all leading to one over all champion. Then a long enough off season for riders to recover and the teams to improve.
I love the sport more then anything but between the bikes the gear and the maintenance it’s a high price sport
Yeah but don't forget it's motor sport. Compared to all kinds of car racing or road bike racing it can be still quite cheap. Think only trial might be even cheaper.
Loved the vid but it didn't really talk about the future of MX.
Future of mx in the u.s looks grimm, sx seems more important than mx and sx is where the $$$ is and seems that what counts in the u.s
@@frankg8915 Yeah, I got that but we already knew that. There was no discussion about possible fixes or nothing.
Mentions Chad Reed as "one of the Americans" 🤔
Mentions Ken Roczen as an American 🤔
I think they are just talking about AMA riders vs FIM but they should have chosen their words better. It is like saying an American NHlL team wins the Stanley Cup when most of their roster is Canadian, or saying the BlueJays or Raptors are Canadian teams when there is rarely a Canadian on the squad.
Roger DeCoster is such a nice guy. There are few people that will make an impact on this world like he has.
...as a rider, as a manager and as a person.
Seeing this hurts because I watched stewart, carmichael, reed, dungey, and villopoto ever since i was little and just those few gone took a lot from this sport. The passion of racing went with them.
"Behind" that's were we are. We are behind. Hate to admit it, but we are.
it's not video games it's the fucking cost of dirtbikes. it's one of the most expensive sports out there and if you don't live in socal your local tracks are most likely pretty lame too
I totally agree about the kids of this generation( I am actually in the demographic of 13-18 that are sucked into there phones) all they care about is social media I just love it even more when I can grab my bike after school and ride on our property for hours and I love going to Hollister hills even more.
20 round championship alternating indoor/outdoor venues. Mid-March to mid-September with three week break in June. Then everyone gets an off-season. 🤷♂️
The 2014 season was the true end of an era. Everything changed after that season
growing up in the mid 80's to early 90's, motocross was life, SoCal was the mecca and the sport was huge.Kids today will never see the sport at that level.
I smoke a lot of weed and it's still so much cheaper and safer than racing
Stop spending your money on weed and mabye it will be a bit cheaper
Fuck racing, and riding just gets you into trouble while wasting more money than an eighth. Its not social media, drugs or video games, its pussy land owners and the price of just riding, owning a truck or trailer to move it and a place to safely store the bike... nvm racing.
That is way old guys make fun of our generation puzzy asshole
if only we could all afford bikes.
You could buy a bike off Craigslist for like a couple thousand
@@isaiahwilson6225 That needs a couple thousand to revive. Bikes are so far out of most peoples price range these days. Yea old bikes are cheap however the cost of living is so outrageous these days you need to very careful how you select your hobbies. Just routine maintenance like top end, fork seals, chain/sprocket, fluids, filters, tires etc. It adds up quick.
@@ericthompson881 Haha hell yeah ,I still havent bought a front tire for the yz125 ,got the rear though 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭
Doesn't cost any more than the cell phones and service you waste your money on every month so you can be like a teenie bopper girl....
@@bultacowally who are you referring to bro??
Jwalk gang!!
Crazy how RUclips has grown JWalk 841. Its awesome to see
Cool guys, keep it up! Great vid!
supercross (like all those circus sport) SUCKS!!! Classic motocross is the very best!
Markus Sukram and don’t forget enduro
WTFcamper69 I feel enduro & hard enduro is really growing in the US. I just got back into it, used to race AMA harescrambles and motocross as a kid. A lot of older dudes are getting back into it as well.
@@stevenllewellyn8906 "hard enduro" is not fun at all, it's just extreme technical stuff,I like riding free in the desert or in the wood , I want to feel like if I ride a horse not a donkey.
Markus Sukram haha, I like a mix of both. If you’ve seen the Tough like RORR races that’s where I ride at. I’m in PA
@@markussukram9290 some people rather ride a bull then just a cow
i know supercross brings in the money,but after about 3 supercross races,im ready for the outdoors as a spectator.
Honestly I like supercross better I find the racing is more intense. They just need to cut the number of erasers in the main event down in half. The lappers always mess up the racing and there's no point of them even really being there. It is two different types of being fast though supercross is more skill or is Motocross takes less skill but more endurance.
Yeeeee Jeff Walker made the edit 🤙🏼
This video just highlights the disconnect between normal people riding on weekends because they love it and the mx industry as a whole
I was here before they deleted the mxgp video
So what?
@@jordann_S that you didn't watch it 🖕 :)
I also watched it why did they delete it
mxgp video?
Mareno Oomen I think they uploaded the wrong video before this one. it was only up for a couple of minutes. They then deleted it and then uploaded this
I’m going Saturday to buy another 450. Thank you very inspiring.
As a kid that rides I love loading up my bike and going to a track it is truly an awesome feeling I prefer motocross tracks over supercross but what I do in the after noon is go down the road to my friends house get him to get his bike ride back and then ride the trails in the back of my property all afternoon it is my escape its what I love and I wouldn't give it up for anything.
To me it is the manufactures. Money and promoting, and blocking non sponsered riders. Bring back Motocross.
The reasoning given at 6:13 about why less kids are riding completely misses the mark. Less kids are riding now due to so many parents trying to keep their kids away from motorcycles because in their eyes, motorcycles are the most dangerous thing that their kid could become passionate about so they don't buy/let them ride them dirtbikes. They would rather have their kids play more conventional sports like soccer where there is less risk of injury.
It is what it is. Most people would agree- Supercross is easier to watch/follow on TV or even at the stadium over outdoor MX. MX sometimes gets boring to watch on TV & hard to see at the track. I grew up in the 60s/70s with Evel Knievel so I love all jumps. Sport is way better with them. If USA riders are too busy here with our Racing year round, so be it. By the way, Im 60yrs old still racing MX.
Can’t wait for the rest
I’m 13 and I love moto I don’t see y these kids now don’t go outside and have fun with other stuff other than a video game
But also now unlike back in the 80-90s u can’t ride anywhere.
So Europeans don't have the same seasons etc ? Something is off or conflicting in the information there. We both ride year round it says.
I wish these were longer.
I can remember when the wage of doing work was good here in the USA ! A fast car cost 3500.00 and a dirt bike was 1200.00 and at the time my wage was 23.11 an hour in 1980 now my wage is 35.00 doing the same job and that is only in the last 2 years it stayed at 20.00 an hour from 1989 until now... THE GLORY OF KING Kenny Roberts gave every kid out there to be like him!!!
Kids need to do this more than anything nowadays it teaches them respect and responsibility I love this sport I'm the only one that rides in my school I love this video it literally describes the way I feel
As a European I can safely say we are just waiting for the bear to bite back.
As an American, I can safely say you guys will own MXGP for a long while to come from my view, but I'm actually enjoying the hell out of watching Cairoli, Herlings, Prado, Gajser, Febvre, Olsen, Searle, Watson, Sterry, and the likes kicking ass though.....I mean, who do we have over there besides Harrison, Sanayei, & Root right now anyway? (No disrespect to those guys, but I'm not just talking about a few select riders flying over there just for the MX of Nations either)........for real, our grass roots over here are as fouled up as an old 1973 Penton Mudlark 125 running on a tank full of last years ethanol (smh)......right now seems all we got is helicopter parents, cell phone / gaming babysitters, climate change hawks, gov't regs, rising insurance rates, a dying middle class, disappearing land & tracks, soaring costs for bikes that don't even run, EDM, gender studies / post-modern influences, and big pharma killing all the rest not already glued to their damn phones......not to mention we already skipped 1 generation, & skipping the 2nd now......it's bad.....& we need to get our heads outta our asses before we see any new serious outdoor MX talent.
2:29 Wow those guys are really good at reversing!
Supercross gets better TV coverage. End of research.
This is probably one of the most imporant episodes ive watched on the sport so far. such an interesting perspective from american riders i hadnt thought of, shameful to be honest given how much i follow the sport. i have hoped and do hope, far more now, they some how get a less demanding non stop life style. must take so much fight. unfortunately the two continents will never overlap due to their structure. always respected their athletes however this makes things more clear. if their tacks were the same it would help also but still the odds would be harder on them due to fatigue from what was explained in this video . mx is the sport for me, sx alot less. GPs make everything else dull. but the whole sport is on big famly
Who here not only cares about motocross. But flat track. And knows how much of a downhill it’s on. All of it’s sad
That was dramatic.. lol. Love it
Remember my name folks....I’m changing the Mx...I love motorcycles and there’s nothing more I wanna do than race. I will bring it back and I will bring the heat. And you can bet your tale I’m gonna do it on a Suzuki.
Chad reed is Aussie mate
Omg lets gooooo!😱😁😁
You start racing outdoors you finish outdoors motocross 4 life
There’s definitely a lot of racing these days, it’s great as a fan to be able to watch supercross or motocross races almost every single weekend in a row, but I think the time has come to shorten up the championships a little, maybe start by knocking a round or 2 off each series, give the riders a couple week break here or there, especially a bigger gap between the end of sx and start of mx.
#841 making the cut!!!
Great sport and passion 🤙🏁
Supercross is cool I watch but nothing is like motocross but it's what we grow up doing theres less racers these days
I think the Americans need to start racing in mxgp motocross championship or there needs to be a true WORLD mxgp supercross championship to replace mxgp and American only supercross
Mxgp is "WORLD"
I agree, don't know how it would happen though. Big sponsors like Red Bull and Monster bring so much, but if they decide more viewing and exposure for their brand is Supercross, then automatically it knocks down as priority for teams / riders.
I don't buy into the Americans not having desire for mxon because of schedule. it's money from Vegas super cup. So close to the Des Nations. Des Nations has been around much longer. Why not make the Super Cup mid November. That way it doesn't interfere with anything. Des Nations should be the spectacle of the sport. Like it always should be.
Ama Supercross is what one round longer than it was in the 90's ??? The Americans then would have given their right arm for a chance to represent America. The industry and scene is all about corporations and sponsorships, which I get, but I think it's made the divide between America and GP'S even more. As a fan o just want to see all the best riders fighting it out.
Either that or just hit reset and go back the 90's 2 strokes only braaaaaaaap 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They don't want to deal with different cultures/languages/food etc. and homesick for being with family and friends and their own bed etc. No, I don't blame anyone for staying here to race. I respect Brad Lackey for doing it and having it all finally pay off for him.
@@vintagemxer9165 Mitch Harrison came to Europe this year, and it seems he's gonna stay.
Hell yeah #841!!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
In California we have green stickers which bikes that can be year round and then other bikes can only be ridden at certain times of the year. It’s trash when the government tells you when you’re allowed to use your own stuff!
Jeff walker !!!!
Love this so so so much!!!!