Team Avatar vs The Sasuke Retrieval Mission

[@ThunderGodTG]

*babe hop off sage posted*

[@sageofthickcalves]

Bro 🤣🙏🏼

[@nwk1626]

- nvm, its not the KCM vid

[@superanimegod1234]

Lmao

[@___________0Z0X]

Exactly

[@Couldnt_think_of_anything]

Thunder bark how you been

[@nemesiz1539]

I love how he makes the video both fun for power scalers and storytellers. Sokka dying and Katara attempting to cope with that death and using blood bending is incredible.

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you so much! 🙏🏼

[@crocoboi7936]

Yo sokka dying actually made me sad but it makes sense

[@strykerman7888]

I like how Aang has 5 chakra natures plus, byakugan, ice release, lava release, and possibly boil release, amongst others. His ninjutsu game is crazy.😂

[@sageofthickcalves]

Bro is BUSTED

[@shadow_kin2047]

I def don’t think Aang has a byakugan

[@bigboi7156]

@@shadow_kin2047seismic sense it’s quite similar just no chakra reading

[@DarthMagog]

Avatar fans eating good with Chef Sage this week. Would like to bring up Sokka's absurd luck though. I think he'd still lose, but he'd certainly survive. As Rock Lee says "Luck, is also a type of Jutsu."

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you so much bro! Also, you’re high key spittin rn 🤔

[@AxleBoost]

Forget Akatsuki duos, give us Azula's trio in the Chunin Exams.

[@sageofthickcalves]

That’ll come soon 🫡

[@Mimi._.Haruno_]

I’d actually love to see that one 😭

[@franciscodaza5858]

I was not ready for Sokka vs Sakon and Ukon.

[@sageofthickcalves]

Neither was I and I wrote it 🥲

[@danielpaladinthesage78bail11]

The Sound Four's curse marks have names.
1). Jirōbos is known as the Thunder Curse Mark
2). Kidōmarus is known as the Fire Curse Mark
3). Tayuyas is known as the Water Curse Mark
4). And Sakon and Ukons are known as the Air Curse Mark

[@Mimi._.Haruno_]

Wait really? Where was this stated? And why isn’t it:
Jirobo - Earth
Kidomaru - Lightning
Tayuya - Air
and Sakon / Ukon - Fire???

[@danielpaladinthesage78bail11]

@@Mimi._.Haruno_ The names were revealed in a Naruto online game. And their Curse Mark element names are mixed up in your comment.

[@Mimi._.Haruno_]

@@danielpaladinthesage78bail11 ohhh ok

[@TheObserver99zs]

Still blows my mind they scale this high but seeing the feats again kinda has it make sense
I still think the average combat speed of the Narutoverse would be dangerous. Good reaction times (avatar-verse) but not the same attack times on average. Idk only a few attacks in avatar are fast enough to be in the speed tier everyone’s at

[@Couldnt_think_of_anything]

I know right

[@___________0Z0X]

One thing in favor of chidori being A blitz above is kid Kakashi being unable to react to his own speed without the sharingun.
This was in the kakashi Chronicles, and it was not the Lightning blade yet because he did not cut through lightning with it yet.

[@sageofthickcalves]

He could react to his own speed, he just couldn’t adjust enough for a counter attack because of the tunnel vision effect. You could just argue that any Naruto character moving at full speed would suffer the same issue without dojutsu.

[@___________0Z0X]

@@sageofthickcalves but wouldn’t you need to prove that? I don’t remember the renigan helping with reaction time.
Also him being Unable to adjust himself, after means that he cannot react to his own speed, doesn’t it? And characters moving at full speed do not need dojutsu to adjust themselves when moving at full speed. Examples of this are KCM Naruto, the Raikage, killer B, etc.
I love your stuff, I was just pointing somethin out to help explain why we as a community are so quick to accept that the chidori is a speed amp.

[@sageofthickcalves]

@@___________0Z0X yeah page 4 of chapter 114 Lee says he can’t do a full speed head on jab like that because he doesn’t have the perception necessary
Link:
www.mangapill.com/chapters/3070-10114000/naruto-digital-colored-comics-chapter-114

[@___________0Z0X]

@@sageofthickcalves thanks, so that’s why Sasuke could do it.

[@haydenarlo1950]

saying the chidori doesn’t amp speed is cap 😭
great video tho! bless the youtube algo for bringing me here. 👌 peak content

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thanks brother! I put a note on screen saying I’m fine with a 2x Chidori amp, but a full blitz tier doesn’t work imo

[@frankiejones7858]

A death bed haku was able to get in front of zabuza before kakashi reached him

[@sageofthickcalves]

@@frankiejones7858 likely using body flicker

[@user-lz1wg6xs6z]

​@@sageofthickcalvesit was Most likely the ice mirror but even then haku travels through his ice mirror at the sol which Sasuke could barely dodge at that point haku even go all out which Sasuke does reaction

[@s.owl9]

@@sageofthickcalvesDoesn’t Kakashi state that the chidori amps speed to the point that the user cant react to enemy movement (3-4x), and that’s why the Sharingan is necessary for its safe usage?
I think the Raikiri is S tier because it doesn’t have that flaw, it only amps speed to a level manageable for the user (2-3x) and therefore doesnt require the use of the Sharingan which help’s with Kakashi’s stamina in battle. The Raikiri might also be more potent, by “recycling” the chakra, that Chirdori uses for speed, into strength.

[@jkroaden9492]

I’m no power scaler and I don’t really care how accurate these fights are, but this is interesting

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you!

[@Issuemma]

What about a video of Team Avatar in MHA scenarios?
The sports festival, joint training arc, the Erei rescue mission, the second movie, saving Bakugo, fighting stain, etc. could all be very interesting imo! Hope suggestions are welcome, not trying to tell you how to do your job. But I’d definitely be interested in hearing your takes on that front!
Edit: could also do a cool twist on my villain academia and replace Shigarakis’ team with The Red Lotus 👀 on part on if they can get Gigantomachia to yield another part on the concept of them taking on the paranormal liberation front.

[@sageofthickcalves]

Love these ideas 🙏🏼 Suggestions are always welcome bro 🫡

[@jrex7486]

Katara needs the moon in order to access blood bending as far as I’m aware. That wouldn’t work on them so she probably dies just like her brother. Other than that, great stuff. I feel like doing the duo video would be better. I think team avatar gets beaten pretty badly if they fight the Akatsuki all at once.

[@franciscodaza5858]

In the episode “The Southern Raiders.” It’s shown Katara blood bending the captain of the ship. I ended rewatching to see if a full moon was visible but it was never shown just being mostly cloudy. However I would say there is a greater chance a full moon wasn’t then for it was.
Book 3 episode 16

[@Mario-bl5ud]

​@@franciscodaza5858 I'm pretty sure she used it before amon ever did. It's a rarity though, which is the only reason amon was notable other than his ability to "take" bending away.

[@sageofthickcalves]

She uses it against the captain that killed her mother without a full moon

[@guyhathansaintil5218]

@@franciscodaza5858 no it was shown u see it when theyre flying on appa also if she could do that they wouldnt have thouht it was impossible in lok

[@guyhathansaintil5218]

@@sageofthickcalves she doesnt and if she did why did everyone think it was impossible without a full moon

[@SilasMichaels]

Honestly this is your best video yet I’m not going to lie

[@sageofthickcalves]

🫡

[@boysmom9256]

The atla meat riding is crazy even if zuko wins he wouldn't be able to continue toph would be tired and it was not in character as toph never showed to death threat soka would've died earlier and aang is not gonna push kimimaru to stage 1

[@sageofthickcalves]

🧢

[@FriendlyGhost-rf7tq]

finally some brains

[@sageofthickcalves]

@@FriendlyGhost-rf7tq you keep commenting on stuff but haven’t actually offered a single refutation for a single argument lmao

[@starslight-x3o]

I agree with basically everything you said. There are a couple of minor mistakes, three to be exact, but other than that, 10/10 video and definitely looking forward to the Akatsuki Duo video.
The mistakes were that, the Raikiri & Chidori function in the same capacity and are essentially, the same jutsu. The Raikiri is S-Rank because it achieved the feat of cutting a lightning bolt in half while it was Kakashi's hands. The Chidori is not S-Rank because it hasn't achieved that feat yet. Raikiri is the "Lightning Blade" because it cut lightning, and we know Kakashi called the Lightning Blade "Chidori" before he achieved the feat.
They have different hand signs because Kakashi is more proficient with the jutsu than Sasuke. We know the same jutsu can have different hand signs in different shinobi that have different skill levels. Tobirama performs the Water Dragon Jutsu in three hand signs while Kakashi performs it in a plethora of hand signs because Tobirama is more skilled with it. The same goes for the Fireball Jutsu, in which Itachi performs it in a couple of hand signs while Kakashi uses up another plethora.
The other mistake was that, CM2 Sasuke's Black Chidori is not the Onyx Chidori. The Onyx Chidori is the Six Paths-enhanced black Chidori Sasuke uses in the War Arc. I don't know what the name of Sasuke's CM2 Black Chidori is, but they are different.
The last mistake is that the Chidori does enhance speed, that's why it creates tunnel vision. It was stated by Minato that the Chidori enhances speed significantly & that's the reason Kakashi HAD the speed to cut a lightning bolt in half.

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you! Just two things here.
- The raikiri databook statement says it’s “honed to its limit”, so you could easily argue that the difference between the two comes in the absolute concentration of the chakra. But they are technically separate jutsu, it’s just hard to identify what exactly separates them.
- Minato never says Chidori increases speed. He says one of the drawbacks is the speed of the technique. That could just mean that moving in a linear fashion at or near your maximum speed creates a tunnel vision effect that’s hard to overcome without dojutsu. I’ve used that before too, but he never says or implies that the jutsu amps the user’s speed, just that the jutsu is fast.

[@tomithy_lo]

Is there ever a time in the series another character mentions or is shown getting the tunnel vision effect in any circumstance besides using chidori/lightning blade? ​@@sageofthickcalves

[@Vergil512]

The unofficial name at least in the games was curse mark level 2 "ominous chidori". But it's not canon.

[@LuciusFox24]

​@@sageofthickcalveswe know it gives you a speed boost for a few reasons. If it didn't give you a speed boost then essentially all the jutsu does is cloak your hand in lightning. We know it does more than that otherwise there wouldn't be a tunneling issue, the user could just run at their normal blitz speed. Kakashi even in the boruto era cannot perform the raikiri without the sharingan and its stated that hes only grown stronger since the war. We also have other examples of lightning style amping movement speed with Ay, its more likely than not that the raikiri and by extension the chidori increase movement speed.

[@sageofthickcalves]

@@tomithy_lo no because nobody else who uses it is without a sharingan. But we know that non-sharingan, or at least non-dojutsu users can’t use it because launching a full speed head on jab like that is dangerous without a perception amp.
Page 4 bottom right panel:
www.mangapill.com/chapters/3070-10114000/naruto-digital-colored-comics-chapter-114

[@superanimegod1234]

Fire video bro, you inspired me to do a similar type video for a group of characters doing the chunin exams so thank you

[@sageofthickcalves]

No problem dude! Thank YOU for the love 🫡

[@saintlugia]

This is very generous for team avatar. Katara can't use blood bending. Zuko burns down a forest that takes days to cross even for ninja. Zuko or toph break katara out of genjustu somehow. And the chidiri does give a speedboost because the user moves so fast they need sharingan to use it. If the chidori makes you move do fast that you can't react fast enough it has to be giving you a speed boost faster than your reactions.
Like i said at the beginning this was really generous for team avatar

[@sageofthickcalves]

- Katara can use blood bending
- I didn’t say he burns down the forest
- Toph and Zuko blast Tayuya, breaking the genjutsu
- Lee states that moving at full speed is what causes the tunnel vision, not a speed boost

[@FriendlyGhost-rf7tq]

plus other name for Chidori is Lightning cuter as Kakashi literally used it to cut lightening in half and you need to be faster than lightning to use it

[@whoizray_]

let’s get it been waiting for this def should do some avatar vs jjk verse sometime ‼️

[@sageofthickcalves]

Bet it up 🫡

[@zachm56gaming30]

Aang just pulled a naruto and talk-no jutsued sauke

[@JacksonBriggs-ji7rz]

I love how the ad breaks are at the perfect times between sections 🤣 But for real, awesome vid! Keep the Avatar content rolling!

[@crazygrape0522]

Bro literally cooked with this one🔥

[@sageofthickcalves]

👨🏻‍🍳

[@Megidramon]

Bloodbending Sakon and Ukon for killing Sokka. 1000% in character for Katara.

[@PartyBandit]

Keep these coming. I need Team Avatar vs the whole Naruto universe

[@sageofthickcalves]

Haha I’ll get Aang to outerversal with Raava scaling 💀

[@ZayyFrl]

@@sageofthickcalveswait he can scale that high or that was a joke

[@sageofthickcalves]

@@ZayyFrl it’s bad scaling, but yeah genuinely he can be argued for that lmao

[@robxholicfoxyfan8552]

Here's the thing, Sokka clogged the chakra of Combustion Man with his boomerang. So yes, he can do other things besides just cut something well and keep up decently with reaction speeds similar but lower to the rest of Team Avatar. He is also a strategist, and well learned in science as opposed to probably some others. People may sleep on Sokka for being a bender or just a swordsman, but I say he would be way more integral in combat strategies than just his main attack power. So while I appreciate him being used as a catalyst for Katara to break her rule on Blood bending, there would likely be scenarios where he survives, too. Maybe not as many as the rest of the cast overall, but still some timelines he absolutely could.

[@sageofthickcalves]

Gonna have to redo the video because of this level of love and respect for king Sokka

[@TheEternalFlame57]

Sage is back Les go!!

[@sageofthickcalves]

My dude! I appreciate the love 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@Jay-ob9np]

Another great video keep up the good work!

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you! 🫡

[@kingnutbuster4978]

Keep it coming!! Now lets see them take on the next arc

[@sageofthickcalves]

Bet it up!

[@ajayimoses2495]

There are major highball’s for the avatar verse though as they shouldn’t scale this high…
But I’d say it was managed well considering the story

[@sageofthickcalves]

They’re actually kinda low balled here tbh. I scaled them to the lowest level of lightning timer, but they blatantly outscale the lightning they react to and outspeed

[@thatguy779]

This got way more in-depth than I ever would've expected. I don't know what the strength of the webbing is, but I am fairly confident that Katara, being able to cut through steel/metal with her waterbending, shouldn't actually have that much of an issue with that part. Again, this is unless the webs have some crazy durability I don't know about

[@sageofthickcalves]

I think they’re stated to be stronger than steel

[@yamamotogotbodied1606]

Can’t wait for team avatar vs the Akatsuki because the fans smoked that comment goal

[@sageofthickcalves]

🫡

[@fatmont588]

At this point you should do What if the Gaang were in Naruto probably have them Isekai’d them from EOS by having them explore the spirit realm and get teleport to the Ninja World right before the Chuin Exams

[@sageofthickcalves]

Bet it up

[@aronguillen7951]

Chakra / power/ strength. It’s all relative it’s all one of the same. If you have 10x more chakra by default you’ll be faster 😊 , great video btw

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you!

[@shysenpai3032]

Aint no fucking way this ends with a talk no jutsu! That's actually such an Aang way to end the conflict.

[@sageofthickcalves]

Haha for real!

[@ROEb0t17]

Good video but some addendums i had:
Sokka is not a master swordsman. He's decent at best. In the comics he sparred with zuko and zuko washed him easily. Noting specifically that he'd trained a lot longer than sokka.
Katara can't bloodbend without the full moon. So unless the scenario was taking place during one, she can't do so.

[@sageofthickcalves]

First point, Sokka is a master swordsman, but so is Zuko. The supplemental material confirms as much.
Second, fair point. I knew that, but included it because people wanted me to talk about it lol. She’s washing Sakon with her water bending anyway.

[@ROEb0t17]

@@sageofthickcalves I might sound a bit egotistical by saying that even if a supplementary book or poster says that sokka is a master swordsman, I disagree. At least in regard to the sokka during the show, maybe adult sokka is a master.
He had like what 2 days of training and now he's a master. I know it's a cartoon but there's limits. Plus he never bests any named non benders or bender in general with his sword. He only beats a couple of unnamed non benders during the eclipse invasion.
When he faced piando, it's clear that piando is holding back, considering it was a test and he was complementing and critiquing sokka throughout their bout. And he still won mind you. When sokka faced another skilled swordsman, zuko, he got washed repeatedly.
Frankly, I think sokka is a trained swordsman but not a master by any stretch.

[@FriendlyGhost-rf7tq]

@@sageofthickcalves having a good sword dose no make you a master swordsman Sokka is average at bast with a special sword or not

[@isaacssjblue8403]

Let’s be honest do y’all really think sokka can fight a anime character 😂😂

[@sageofthickcalves]

Sokka washes most Demon Slayer characters tbh

[@superkye0461]

One argument i could make is that partial nine tails cloak could react and counter haku's light speed mirror feat. Since sasuke scales above that version of naruto with his sharingan and his stage two curse mark, one could say that he is Faster than light.

[@sageofthickcalves]

The problem is that Haku wasn’t going all out, so it’s very likely he wasn’t moving at light speed. Also, saying 2 tomoe land of waves Sasuke can react to a light speed character while MS 5KS Sasuke has trouble reacting to Ay who’s stated to be “near light speed” is weird. So the consistent interpretation is that they’re nowhere near light speed in part 1. Also explains why Kakashi is able to blitz both Naruto and Sasuke in part 1, but gets blitzed by Haku.

[@sebtw8918]

May Sokkas rest in peace😔

[@sageofthickcalves]

The GOAT

[@silverblade43]

Man i just cant agree that Sokka is able to even perceive elite genin and up from naruto

[@sageofthickcalves]

It feels weird for sure, but the scaling gets him there

[@tonycohan1317]

I don't want to watch team avatar get folded but let's hope the comics make them crazy.

[@sageofthickcalves]

🫡

[@sabishi_black]

Sokka vs Sakon and Ukon was such a terrible match up but somehow expected and appreciated 😭

[@sageofthickcalves]

A sad day 😔

[@bigejay100able]

If we’re equalizing, chi and chakra wouldn’t that technically mean that they could all learn different chakra releases to enhance their bending. This could make them very formidable in the future.

[@sageofthickcalves]

I’d say it’s more like Toph would only know earth release, but she’d be one of the most proficient earth release users in the verse

[@397llederson6]

Kakashi is stated to get a boost by Minato himself as he mentions the jutsu's speed

[@sageofthickcalves]

That’s not what’s stated there. He just calls the jutsu fast, and says he gets tunnel vision from the speed. Do I think it amps speed to some degree? Probably. I was just pointing out that it likely doesn’t give the user a blitz tier increase, which is why I left the note on screen in that section.

[@100TypeYolt]

Aang w straight bars to Sausake showing Naruto and Kakashi how you save a friend in 138 episodes. 🔥🔥😂
W vid bro the naruto/avatar content has been straight heat

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you so much! 🙏🏼

[@FriendlyGhost-rf7tq]

he literally give him same talk as Kakashi this would not work

[@najex1]

Sadly, Ange's speech is too similar to Kakashi's, which didn't get through to him.

[@sageofthickcalves]

I think Kakashi’s words would’ve gotten through if he had just beaten him down, along with the sound 4

[@najex1]

@@sageofthickcalves Ah. The shoenen anime curse of reasonable discourse. No argument is valid unless its accompanied by a good push to the face.

[@sageofthickcalves]

@@najex1 100% 💀

[@FriendlyGhost-rf7tq]

@@sageofthickcalves nah justice is most important thing for Sasuke and sense there is no proper justice system in Naruto revenge is a next best thing to him Aang would just be a coward for choosing nice and comfy life instead of doing hard thing and bring revenge to his people

[@aronguillen7951]

You did go the more fair route but Naruto characters can scale faster , you did kinda lowball them. For example neji reacting to lee 4th and 5th gate , the same neji who can react to lighting arrows while injured , was outspeed and temporarily blitz by Naruto in the chinin exam. Making Naruto in nine tails chakra at least lighting tiers . Naruto gets another speed amp via 1 tails which Sasuke reacts and keeps up with 3 tomoe. Already cm1 Sasuke 3 tomoe is at least lighting + or around Aang lvls of speed. Add the 10x amp via cm2 and Sasuke is blitzing Aang

[@shadow_kin2047]

29:51 Aang and Sasuke may not have the same bond like Naruto and Sasuke do but I think an interesting emotional battle would happen: both of them could eventually find out that they’re the last of their own tribes, with Aang questioning why Sasuke would want to leave ppl that love him. Sasuke would express his need to avenge his clan by killing Itachi. Aang, being the kindhearted person he is, would be thrown off his game for a bit, maybe leading to Sasuke brutalizing him. He’d wake up then, in the Avatar state like he did with Ozai and bully a CM2 Sasuke before holding him down. He’d be urged by the other Avatars to murder Sasuke because he’s a legitimate threat to the world like Ozai. Aang may even express their own words to Sasuke, but then choose to drop out of it and explain that he could’ve taken revenge on his own enemy, but he chose not too, even when Ozai misused his second chance. He’d explain how murdering Itachi wouldn’t bring any of his clan back and would express how dangerous Orochimaru seems and how he might not even be willing to have him fight his brother in the first place. He’d explain that Sasuke could just stay in the leaf, build up his connections and love his with others, grow stronger, capture Itachi and question him for answers. Sasuke would likely agree, but then the hatred of the CM might bring back his PTSD, massively amping him up to escape from the earth binds that Aang put him in… but, like with Ozai, Aang would spirit bend him. However, he prob wouldn’t take away his chakra because he can sense the external chakra controlling him and even fight off Orochimaru’s CM.
What happens next is up to you. Either you believe Aang is stronger than the CM chakra in part 1(which should be the case since it’s def not Island level) and would be able to rip it outta Sasuke and purify/destroy it.
Or, you want more development for Aang and say that the CM chakra is going to take over him until team Avatar murder Sasuke or severely harm him then take him back to the village, where Tsunade can heal and deal with him.

[@vondas1480]

I think it would have been more interesting to sub Lee with Haru and the sand trio for Azula’s team

[@yarriahgraves4334]

Amazing video keep up the great work👍🏾

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you so much!

[@bigcarnotaurus8857]

aint no way you’re not highballing ts outta them 😭 istg i don’t remember them being this strong

[@sageofthickcalves]

Nah bro it’s actually insane because I thought the same thing. But when you rewatch it and read the comics it’s straight up just how it is man. They’re all lightning timers and Aang scales to someone who pushed an island lmao

[@vondas1480]

Suki would probably be better suited for this mission than Sokka, his strategies weren’t really necessary and it would be good to have 1 actual ninja on the team.

[@sageofthickcalves]

I agree

[@strykerman7888]

Imagine Sokka dodging and weaving Gaaras sand like Lee.💀

[@sageofthickcalves]

Bro 🤣

[@G-LukeJA]

I think a REALLY good video would be The Red Lotus versus various Akatsuki duos.

[@sageofthickcalves]

Bet

[@thegtfan2863]

Can't wait to see the character development we see with Sokka's passing in the Akatsuki video. Sage over here basically creating a whole narrative

[@sageofthickcalves]

🫡

[@aronguillen7951]

Sasuke curse mark lvl 2 is one of the strongest patterns , aka power boost amps of all the sound 4. Meaning it’s telling us it would be above the amps of the other sound 4. Which is a 10x amp. So lowballing sasuke gets a 10x in curse mark lvl 2😊

[@sageofthickcalves]

Could just be 10x for AP, though. No evidence for a 10x speed boost

[@aronguillen7951]

@@sageofthickcalves having more chakra automatically amps your overall stats

[@sageofthickcalves]

@@aronguillen7951 not true. Sakon gets no faster after getting his amp. We know this because he’s relative to Kiba before and after.

[@brightadewole6784]

Love the team avatar in naturo universe concept

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you!

[@ExoticZah]

Stay consistent like this and you might be moving up the Naruto RUclipsr Tier List! Good video!

[@sageofthickcalves]

I appreciate that! 🫡

[@guyhathansaintil5218]

writing this as i watch thevideo
issues with sokka scalin for one normal bending isnt implied to be very fast in fact even random non benders can dodge it and piandao was holdong back he also wasnt reacting easily he was clearly struggling he should be nowhere near the others in speed he also regularly fails to react to much slower opponents you're also massively underrating the naruto verse in speed they should all be around high hypersonic due to scaling to garaas sand which is hypersonic

[@guyhathansaintil5218]

tbh without appa they prolly cant even catch them aside from aand their travel speed isnt high her metal bending ap isnt that much higher than earth it shouldnt hurt him much either even if u think hes slower than toph she dosent really dodge she just makes shields he could/would just smash through the shirld and hit her "lightning speed" is justan expression the arrow likely faster i also dont think burning the forest is a good plan or one hed do he might die from smoke inhalation or just burn to death sokka to slow and weak to clash with sakon also hes not nearly as good with the sword as people act like he is

[@samwolf1452]

Great video!

[@sageofthickcalves]

Glad you enjoyed it 🫡

[@punkfoxxie5410]

Man I love your stuff, NCHammer just dropped a vid about being part of the Naruto movie and namedropped Swag & Six as people who know their stuff, and I had to let em' know about you. You're gonna blow up someday.

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate that 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@atcandotherthings4985]

Really digging these, maybe you could have some of the akatski duos face off ozai or azula’s team

[@sageofthickcalves]

That would be dope

[@atcandotherthings4985]

@@sageofthickcalves another possiblity, avatar group vs pain in Jiraya’s place, or avatar group vs taka sasuke in bees place

[@MegaMachiOnline]

Kimimaro in his prime scales crazy high in shippuden
But part two is the same series where kirin is lightning speed in the manga and described as light speed in some guide, which is about as weird as Haku with ice mirrors and the speed to intercept a close range raikiri

[@sageofthickcalves]

Yeah this is the one from the Sasuke retrieval mission. Prime kimimaro slams

[@kenryuto]

I’m not sure how a blitz tier is quantified but it is stated that the chidori/raikiri require the Sharingan in order to control it. In that case, it must boost the users speed enough to blitz their own reaction speed unless they boost perception with doujutsu. But I see what you mean. The lack of proof of an actual speed buff is crazy. Especially since Kakashi now uses it just fine without sharingan

[@sageofthickcalves]

The sharingan is required in order to precog the opponent’s counter attack. The user can react to their own speed just fine, they just can’t slow down and react fast enough to deal with counter blow. This is directly stated by Lee when he sees the Chidori in chapter 114.

[@ajayimoses2495]

The chidori does amp up speed though.. as normally kakashi wouldn’t be able to keep up with guy in a head on battle… but with it activated he was able to
Plus it’s in the description
A high speed thrust of super condensed electric in the fist…
Heck even MINATO the notorious speedster said that kakashi needed sharingan to keep up with the tunnel vision the speed caused

[@sageofthickcalves]

So there are a couple issues here.
1: Kakashi keeps up with Guy with raikiri, which is different than Chidori. It’s a higher rank and is stated to be “honed to its limit”. You could easily argue this could mean that it offers a speed amp due to the power increase.
2: Lee calls it a high speed thrust, but references it being a “full speed” beeping attack, which is something he can’t do because he wouldn’t be able to react to the counterattack. Notice he says “full speed”, not enhanced speed. Chapter 114 pages 4-5 btw.
3. Minato says it gives him tunnel vision, yes, but you can easily argue that it’s because he’s running at full speed in a straight line, as opposed to it actually amping him.
I am open to the idea that it offers some kind of amp, but there’s no real empirical evidence for it.

[@kareempeart5347]

R.I.P for my brother Sakon may you forever be in peace ✌️ ❤ great video by the way keep up the good work 👍

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you!

[@SatorisYT]

Algorithm fuel!

[@sageofthickcalves]

My guy! 🙏🏼

[@Couldnt_think_of_anything]

Helping out some

[@Narutorz]

33:57 You need the Sharingan to even use the Chidori without blitzing yourself, the user... I think a 4x speed increase is fine.
Also, the difference between Raikiri and Chidori is applied shape transformation, hence the name "Lightning Cutter".

[@louiswalusimbi8006]

This video really puts in perspective how blood thirsty Naruto characters are compared to the Gaang

[@sageofthickcalves]

100%

[@Julian.noa21]

Another video idea what if sukuna attacked konoha instead of kurama during the night naruto was born(sukuna vs Minato)

[@CANTHATEmeNAME]

Nice im glad you followed up with this idea. I would love to see this continue into things like the Kazekage retrieval arc and the pain arc

[@sageofthickcalves]

Bet it up 🫡

[@AtenSol12]

Excellent ! If the akatsuki vid is a continuation of this itd be interesting to note if you thought there are any other differences if Sokka were to participate as the resident planning guy.

[@jokein1227]

Please continue this is amazing

[@sageofthickcalves]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@ariyan4180]

Let’s do this

[@capitainemmhenri1299]

Small note on Metal beending. In the AtlA show, Toph as only been showed to be able to bend metal she was in direct contact with. At best she bends the floor/ceiling in the zeppelin in the last episode, but there's still a contact. I don't think she could bend the necklace (no difference in the fight so wtv) and the flute. The only ways I can see the gang get rid of the flute and the Genjutsu would either be Aang's airbending stoping the sound, Katara freezing some water/humidity inside the flute or Toph/Sokka hitting the flute with something Tayuya didn't see coming (small rock/boomerang)
things are a bit different in the comics and Korra but that is some time later and she would have had more time to experiment with her ability

[@sageofthickcalves]

Fair point, but you could just say since she’s massively faster than both Jirobo and Tayuya that she just takes the metal objects from them. With Tayuya, Katara could just take it out of her hands with water bending once she’s broken out. So there are methods around it

[@capitainemmhenri1299]

yeah for sure it won't make an actual difference in the result, just thought it was interesting enough to point it out.
Also I just remember this but Toph cannot "see" properly on wood (as seen at the end of the episode "The Runaway") so she really couldn't do anything against Tayuya who was in the trees. once again, it's just an observation and wouldn't have any effects on the result.
Great vid man, have a nice day!

[@sageofthickcalves]

@@capitainemmhenri1299 thank you! You as well 🫡

[@FriendlyGhost-rf7tq]

I do not see what any member of time avatar can do against genjutsu even Toph would be affected by sound based except maybe Aang to some avatar mode bs and that is generous

[@karmitdafruge1]

Hey sage im a huge fan of these videos and i want to see them kept up but i have a couple issues that don't make sense to me
So first off chidori absolutely gives a speed amp, kakashi made it as a child and couldn't use it until he got the cognition boost from obitos sharingan.
Second is there a point in the comics where katara uses bloodbending without a full moon? I know we have seen others in the universe do it but never her specifically from my recollection.
I also don't know if being crushed would kill sakkon and ukkon, these guys were split in two with half of their bodies ripped off and they were perfectly fine. Crushing them might be different but i don't think so.
Speaking of which im not sure toph using earth bending to hold jirobo under ground would work, it's probably hard to calculate how much force earthbending has behind it but this dude picked up a fully expanded version of choji, he had to weigh tons and jirobo had no issue lifting him.
Great video like always though

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you so much! I’ll address these issues point by point.
- The Chidori MIGHT give a speed amp, but we don’t know for sure. Lee notes that the issue that the sharingan helps with is perceiving the counter attack (also what Minato says), since moving at “full speed” in a straight line is easy for an enemy to counter. He then notes on the next page that Sasuke has attained a “high speed body just like me”. So, don’t you think it’s strange that Lee sees Sasuke’s speed pre-Chidori and post-Chidori, and directly compares both of them to his own speed? If Sasuke got a massive speed boost there, instead of just moving at “full speed”, like Lee notes, wouldn’t Lee say something about that? Chapter 114 pages 4-5:
www.mangapill.com/chapters/3070-10114000/naruto-digital-colored-comics-chapter-114
- Katara blood bends the day after the full moon in season 3 episode 16
- She could rip the blood out of their bodies probably
- The issue is, if Toph buries him hundreds of feet underground, it wouldn’t really matter how strong he is

[@karmitdafruge1]

@@sageofthickcalves interesting I see where you're coming from with the lee part thanks for taking the time to respond I completely forgot she bloodbent that guy she thought was her mother's killer.
Keep up the good content man! I respect the grind!

[@sageofthickcalves]

@@karmitdafruge1 I appreciate you bro!

[@Julian.noa21]

Another video idea the disaster curses vs the sasuke retrievel team

[@TheSuperskadoosh]

personally i think sokka and katara would take their fight as tag team battle sokka would be smart enough to realize that its better for them and he would probably live due to that.

[@elhood4060]

Katara can only use blood bending in the full moon right?
Chidori give speed amp, Minato notes this when kakashi used it, sarada also got insanely fast with it

[@sageofthickcalves]

- Katara uses blood bending without a full moon against the fire nation soldier that killed her mom
- Minato just says the jutsu is so fast that it causes tunnel vision, not that it amps his speed. I think it does, just not to a full blitz tier increase

[@elhood4060]

@@sageofthickcalves yeah not a blitz tier increase.
Katara definitely didn't use blood bending in that fight.

[@sageofthickcalves]

@@elhood4060 Katara literally blood bends that dude. Zuko tells her to kill him to get her revenge and she blood bends him, but doesn’t finish him off

[@elhood4060]

@@sageofthickcalves no she turned the rain to Ice, tried to stab him and stopped. Or do avatar have filler episode 😂😂 I remember vividly bro you should go check.

[@sageofthickcalves]

@@elhood4060 Checked:
ruclips.net/video/Iau6a9CqkEI/видео.htmlfeature=shared

[@jlablue3401]

I enjoyed this video, but what I think is funny is I'm pretty sure you still lowballed Aang. I'm not super well versed in VS categories, but the feat you gave him was, I think island level for Kyoshi moving an island when there are also feats of similar or greater power. Avatar Szeto was able to cause the eruption of four volcanoes at the same time from a rather large distance, and Aang was able to compress water by what looks like at least 60% while fighting Ozai without turning it to ice, which, if that were possible, would require pressure equal to or even greater than what could be found at the center of the earth.

[@sageofthickcalves]

Nah you’re spittin lol. People think I’m lowballing the Naruto team when it’s actually the other way around 💀 People have down pixel calcs for Zuko intercepting Azula’s lightning and it gets him to like 50x faster than lightning lmao

[@sizweshongwe7312]

Naw man, Sokka's ending has to change bruh 😭
He can still lose, just not die.
Banger video though 🔥🔥🔥

[@sageofthickcalves]

I wanted to have Kankuro show up and save him, but I just couldn’t find a way to do it without giving him massive plot armor 🥲

[@FriendlyGhost-rf7tq]

Sokka is just not ninja period he belongs among civilians is Naruto world

[@AstroKaijen]

Chef Sage, welcome back sir!

[@sageofthickcalves]

🫡

[@1978kmj]

Aang vs itachi

[@sageofthickcalves]

Honestly, that’s 🔥

[@yelouch_21]

really cool idea, still what you did to my goat sokka was so foul 😭
but honestly, even tho its so messed up, I’d like Azula to take sokkas place for an eventual future video, the gaang needs her to compete with stronger foes

[@sageofthickcalves]

I hated to do it 🥲

[@Arcadia_warlic]

Katara cannot blood-bend without a full Moon. Questionable if it would even work on two Version 2 since Tayuya's Version 2 was able to overpower Shikamaru's Shadow Imitation.
The Chidori, in addition to potentially amplifying speed, might also paralyze the target that lacks a healing factor like Naruto.

[@FriendlyGhost-rf7tq]

Aang almost got killed by Azula lightning and if weren't for Kataras magic water he would die he would not survive Chidori just a shoulder or not thing about benders even avater is that there are physically human stronger than your typical MMA fighter do to bending gives some specific element like abilities like running at a speed of wind but that is pretty much it and Aang even do he can bend all elements is physically just a air bender however do he dose not have healing factor even if he survives he will not just walk out this fight

[@Arcadia_warlic]

@@FriendlyGhost-rf7tqOzai's lightning is magnitudes of times greater than Azula's, and Aang redirected it without using the Avatar State.
Benders have survived being shot by all four+ elements and being thrown through walls.
If he receives actual wounds, though, yes, it would be debilitating.

[@FriendlyGhost-rf7tq]

@@Arcadia_warlicToph and Aang toss Sokka around as a comic relief all the time and he is not a bender things he survived are Imposible he is a live only because he is a cartoon character realistically benders do not move at a speeds or strengths' of there elemental attacks i never seen any on doge lightning they do it by reeding there opponents' and predicting where and when they fire Azula strickled Iroh when he did not pay attention to her he could not doge her blue fire

[@Arcadia_warlic]

@@FriendlyGhost-rf7tqZuko had no way of predicting Ozai was going to shoot him, he was not even aware he would be able to fire at all. Similar circumstances exist for other instances of redirection. Azula caught Iroh off-guard.
(I did not mention Sokka.)

[@elliit1426]

There scaling lines up nice for verse comparisons

[@sageofthickcalves]

Thank you!

[@zachariaravenheart]

Nice video. I was waiting for this one to come out and now you're talking about another epic vs video? Team Avatar vs each Akatsuki duo sounds insane! I need to read the comics so I can know what this feat is, but I might have some clues. . .

[@sageofthickcalves]

Well, we hit the comments goal so it looks like it’s happening 🙏🏼

[@zachariaravenheart]

@@sageofthickcalves *shakes with hype*

[@Julian.noa21]

Can you also do what if yuji,megumi and nobara went to the land of waves mission

[@evangedeon2194]

Fire Nation... Land of Fire...? 🤔

[@sageofthickcalves]

🧐

[@Steven-rk3ky]

Avatar doesn’t get crossverse vs battles enough

[@sageofthickcalves]

That’s what I’m here for 🫡

[@williamt8234]

Looking forward to seeing the comics feats which could enable keeping up with the Akatsuki. Do you think swapping the fights of Sokka and Katara would have made a difference, given the particular utility involved?

[@sageofthickcalves]

Katara would’ve had an easier time with Sakon than she did with Tayuya, but Sokka still dies tbh

[@zzfan6760]

I want to see how far team avatar gets in the ninja world

[@sageofthickcalves]

So like take them throughout the series in the place of the main cast?

[@JayPlaysGames117]

​@@sageofthickcalves wouldn't be surprised if u wank them to war arc level

[@zzfan6760]

@@sageofthickcalves that sounds like an interesting series

[@sageofthickcalves]

@@zzfan6760 might suggest that after the next one if this one does well

[@lowkeycolors]

Goat 🐐

[@sageofthickcalves]

🫡

[@jacobgrier2502]

The comic feats?!?!?!😊

[@Julian.noa21]

Can you also do a what if the disaster curses attacked during the chunin exams

[@sageofthickcalves]

👀

[@glenmcintyre7280]

More for this what if

[@sageofthickcalves]

🫡

[@Tumbercube]

i despise baby seals

[@sageofthickcalves]

🤨

[@TheFirstEvil100]

Well, Sokka is dead, and if you do reach the Akatsuki, you should have Sokka stay dead. It makes it far and keeps it all in line with how far they would go before dying. But I have a bad feeling the team won't last much longer, not with the Akatsuki some I think they will take out with ease. Others, not so much; it will be fun to see who will survive Sasori and Deidara and if they can beat the two, well one as we know, Deidara fakes his death.
I will say I see someone dying thanks to Hidan in canon none of them knew what he could do until it was too late.
Itachi vs Zuko would be an epic battle.

[@sageofthickcalves]

🫡

[@TheFirstEvil100]

@@sageofthickcalvesI will say if they all do make it to the 4th war, reanimated Sokka vs Katara.
Still, will be interesting to see who will fight who.

[@leanio8740]

Yoooo i would love an avatar akatsuki video. Atp youre slowly making them run the gauntlet 🙏😭

[@sageofthickcalves]

🫡

[@___________0Z0X]

RIP Saka. I think his opponent should’ve been Kottaras. It would be like how Shikamaru doesn’t like fighting women as well.

[@bluekzx]

I love this very epic

[@sageofthickcalves]

🫡