The Lupertazzi Crime Family - Soprano Theories
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"A don doesn't wear shorts."
Throughout The Sopranos, Tony certainly has his fare share of enemies and antagonists that we see throughout the series. From the toxic mother had to deal with for a majority of his life, to the plethora of nagging girlfriends, to his wife Carmela, the FBI, and even the multiple rats that try and take down Tony and his family, Tony certainly has to watch his back at all times. But there';s no enemy that causes Tony more stress than his close friends in New York in The Lupertazzi Crime Family. No matter who their boss was, from Phil, Johnny, to even Carmine Lupertazzi Sr., they always costed Tony millions of dollars. 
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“I ate grilled cheese off the radiator.” -Phil Leotardo
What are your thoughts about The Lupertazzis? Let me know down below 👇🏻
I can't believe how much my feelings about them have changed! My first time watching, I honestly always preferred the earlier stories about Tony having an antagonist within his family as opposed to grappling with external parties. But on my most recent view, I found the Lupertazzis to be fascinating!
Carmine Sr. was such a competent boss, and I came to finally understand the Season 4 plot regarding his dispute with Tony on the Esplanade split. I now love watching that part and all of the background dealings that Carmine and Johnny make against one another. It was also a lot of fun watching the war between Johnny and Little Carmine play out, along with Phil's ascension after John's short reign. These are now some of my favorite parts of the show given my love of political intrigue stories!
This is one of the rare videos where I learned something completely new, as I never noticed the Paglieri family! So cool that multiple New York families were represented in that final sit-down. I also didn't realize Doc Santaro was acting boss during Phil' hospital visit, or that Torciano was Phil's protege. The graphic included with the video is a really useful resource. Even more excited for my next watch through now! 💜
They were least of the 5 families like the luchesse
I compromised
That would be a cool spin-off. "The Lupertazzi's".
definitely
Little Carmine could play a professor.
@TooLooze or he could be Lewis the whatever, or the something.
"Woke up this morning, got yourself a shinebox"
No can do since Frank Vincent and Tony Lip are dead.
The Lupertazzi family? A family? i told you they're just a glorfied board of directors
Let me tell you a couple of three things…
what is this the fucking UN now?!
“There’s no scraps in my scrapbook” 😂
there's a couple of 3 things
I know one of the Lupertazzi family members did 20 years in the can. I can't remember which one though. They never mentioned it
Unbravo Vince
Whoever it was, I heard he ate tissue off of the radiator and jacked off into grilled cheese. That's a hell of a lot of compromise.
Had a brother Billy, whatever happened there
@@El_PetoJust a kid too. Such a shame.
I think he was the shah of iran
Phil's problem was he tried to make a Western
Imagine that
Phil’s problem was he tried making a western
f*ckin' parakeet@@A_r78
can you imagine that ? you make a western and in the next day you get clipped
Lovely stuff guys 😂
Hehe you heard what I just said, he tried to make a western and in the next day you get clipped.
I always thought the Luppertazzis were a version of the Genovese.
They’re the strongest family and we’re always based in Little Italy.
What? The boss wants to whack his own underboss while his under boss is seeking to whack him. Phil doesn’t respect the underboss and goes to war with him as soon as the boss is dead and the dead boss’ son wants to go to war with everybody - even though he wants to get out.
The Sopranos seem like a happy family/glorified crew, by mob standards!!
they were all based in little italy. its an amalgam you can tease many family's out of them.
Philly would have been a good boss if he had done time without compromise.
But how much time? I mean, he never actually said, right?
😊
If only Carmine had sent him some Manigot
@@robertbusek3020 fuckin years
He had to settle for grilled cheese off the radiator :(@@odeleon24
@@randylahey345Yeah it seems like a long time, but not that much in the grand scheme of things.
I mean, how old was he when he got out, Around 60 say? Just a kid
Didn't Paulie "Live through the 70s by the skin of my nuts when the Colombos were going at it"? That would mean that at least back then, the Colombo family existed in New York in the show
Paulie wasn’t very reliable. He claims he once saw a flying saucer over East Rutherford
I wonder if the sopranos is like the GTA world where they mention real world things but also fictional parodies also exist
Was that season 1? Meadow also lists the families in season 1 but they went away from that after season 1. They basically rewrote the families
@@randylahey345It was season 6 when theyre discussing the phil hit
That was just a nod towards the actor's real life
I never knew Ginny Sack's brother was made in a NY family (Infante). If so, why did the Sopranos feel free to rip him off at his glasses business?
I always thought he was an associate not a made member specifically because the pygmy thing in Jersey ripped off those glasses.
@@EVILLOVER01 Me too. But I think this video implied that he was more "important."
@@erics362 guy was definitely not made. Important? Sure. After all, he quickly became one of Johnny Sac's most trusted messengers. His word was basically the Boss' word, so far as Johnny Sac was respected. But made? No way. Guy was clearly not a mobster. Only an associate as in so far he was literally associated with Johnny Sac. Dude was basically a civilian. Sopranos wouldn't have dared rip him off at his business if he was made.
Yep and the way he didn’t know how to relay business to Johnny
Pretty sure she has 2 brothers. Andy is the boss. Anthony is the brother we see in the show and doesnt seem to be made
Rewatching the series, they under utilized the other Families. The Lupertazzis were the only ones we see.
They were the only ones with business in North Jersey. The Five Families established a governing body to demarcate territory. So the thing Tony ran really was just a glorified crew
In the final episode of season 6, there was also a representative of the Paglieri crime family, who organized a meeting between Tony and Butch.
I really think the Lupertazzis replaced the Lucchese Crime Family in the Sopranos. There have been references to former bosses/members of the other four families except for the Luccheses(I think). The names Teresi, Mangano, Infante and Paglieri are probably just the names of the current bosses and so other mobsters would refer to the families by their bosses’ names. Plus Phil was like Vic Amuso who started a war with their NJ crew so the similarities are there.
I think this was a deliberate choice to show that the DiMeo/Soprano family didn't matter enough to do business with New York on a broader scale.
They had enough characters as is. You can’t introduce 5 families with story arcs. It’s just a show writing thing. Honestly, I had a hard time keeping track of the characters on my first watch through.
As Carmine Jr might have put it, the Lupertazzis are one of the most profane crime families in the anals of history. Though they had numerous alterations with the Sopranos, both of the families realized that a pint of blood costs more than a gallon of gold and kept their differentials to a minimalist.
very allegorical.
I'm reminded of Louis somebody's finance minister.
Wasn't he also the interior decorator of Czechoslovakia? @@TooLooze
Who took over the Lupertazzi's after Phil got whacked. I always assumed it was Lil Carmine and not Butch.
That's a pretty good theory. I'm going to see the mansion at Versales and I'm going to pander that idea while I'm there.@@michaelotieno6524
"Incompetent Butch"? He organized the hits on Doc, Bobby & Sil.
yeah some people seem to like hating him but he was no worse or better than the others.
Yeah I don't think he was meant to be seen as incompetent at all. If anything he wanted to run things from behind Phil (without Phil comprehending it) that's why he was putting a battery in Phil's back
Well done! Although Luccheses IRL aren't that powerful. It is Gambino and Genovese who are taking the top spot.
It was so confusing that they made fictional families, when they reference the real families throughout the series. The scene with Meadow naming all five families, then early in the series a character said "there hasn't been a war since that colombo thing" and I think its part of paulie's character and he mentions multiple times how he survived the colombo war.
Well I think it's like somebody else in the comments theorized , those fictional names are who they are referring to as the bosses of Colombo's, Genovese's, Gambino's, & bonanno's in that era, with the Lupertazis being a replacement for the Lucheses , OR they ARE the Lucheses in the show also being referred to using the name of the current leadership in the era which the show aired
"Shil coulda got hoit!:" What a great actor James Gandolfini was.
your brother Billy whatever happened there.....
Whatever happened there!!!
He was just a toddler…
The Sopranos over here!!
Historically, the Chicago outfit had a seat on the commission too.
A lot of cities had seats on the commission Nee Orleans Florida Cleveland Buffalo NY Philly but as the old bosses died out nobody really replaced their seats.
The Luchesses were never the strongest or biggest family... it was always either the Gambinos or the Genovese crime families. That's a well known fact. The 3rd place is Bannano, then number 4 spot is luchesse and lastly colombo family is the weakest. I don't know where you heard that Luchesses were strongest.... but that's wrong. Just saying haha
Depends what era
pre appalachin meeting the lucchese we’re probably the weakest but at that point nearly all the families were strong united aside from the gambinos/mangano. it wasnt until the civil wars in the bonnano and the Colombos, genovese getting pinched and gambinos rise where they arguably became second and since have remianed behind the gambinos and genovese.
@@anthonysalcedo3740Exactly. The Bonanno's were a strong family in the beginning. The Castallemerese. They were a powerful serious contingency even pre dating Luciano's commission/LCN an for a long time after. The Colombos were certainly the most violent especially as time went on
They were the only ones who weren’t in legal trouble so while the other bosses were locked up they became the most powerful
That's right
I'd say that Carmine Sr was more a combination of paul castalino and angelo bruno.
He was very business minded like "big paul" but he was also very averse to violence and preferred to try and keep everyone quiet and happy so that they could keep making money like "the gentle don".
I ain't scared of them.
You should have stopped at Roy Roger’s.
Would have loved to see the other Crime Families (I know they met with the Camorra in Season 2). Great video ❤
I always thought that the show-runners didn’t know that there are other mafia’s in Italy, and just assumed it was all mafia (Cosa Nostra), across Italy.
Some confusing things come from that too (not just that the clan seems to be structured like the mafia), like Furio coming over.
He would have had to be made, and also adapt to a new culture, as Camorra clans work quite differently - even those that did affiliate with the Sicilians, and were officially inducted into Cosa Nostra, didn’t have their clans members made along with it, so I don’t know why Furio is assumed to be a made guy…..
(In fairness, it’s confusing to the point I’ve confused myself with this comment 😂, so maybe the showrunners didn’t want to confuse the audience by explaining about Camorra, ‘Ndrangeta, Società foggiana etc…
Very, VERY, detailed and well said. Great video 👏🏽
You have to do basic fact checks on this stuff the genovese then gambino have always been on top then the lucchese family Colombo’s and bonnanos
They had 200 soldiers in the family NJ didn't stand a chance
"You have more buttons than my grandmothers closet" - Tony
Chrissy wasn't scared of them
Which therefore means the show made no sense. A lot of the time, New York were terrified of Tony, and caved to him many times. This would never have happened in real life.
@@Rafael-xt1nmi don't remember any of them being terrified of Tony. And Jersey "caved" to them several times as well. Mob business like any other is done through negotiations alot of the times . It's not always about being afraid or who can scare/bully who into doing things.
Riiiiight. Yet the Sopranos managed to whack their boss just like that...
Rusty was never Tony B.’s cellmate. Some of the basic errors made in these videos are surprising.
They all made for fantastic villains
What makes you think that Butch was incompetent? I'm thinking it was Butch who took out Tony in the end with help from someone in the Soprano crew. It would be easy for one of Tony's crew to turn on him. By the last season, Tony is so corrupted by his vices, weaknesses, & character flaws that it would have been pretty clear that he had to be taken out. Take Tony out, & deal with whoever is left. I think Phil said that.
Yeah I agree. I think at first butch was trying to take over by maneuvering Phil up front (without him realizing it) but when he seen Phil was just not making the cut he decided to get rid of Phil (the dead weight) by weaponizing the Jersey family then taking Tony out. He probably made a deal with Pauly to make it happen. His reasoning for using Phil originally was probably in hopes that the feds would focus on "The Boss" (Phil)
Ginny’s brother was an associate but even if he was made tony still out ranks him and could’ve easily stole those glasses
I would say typically thats not how that would go down. Tony “outranks him” but all made guys are supposed to have certain privileges and protections against that kinda stuff, not to mention you definitely don’t fuck with another family’s made guys unless youre lookin for trouble.
The problem is carmine never named a successor. We all assumed it would be the son.
Sopranos?
Instant click
More creative than SpieLberg…
The Lupertazzi’s manhandled Vic the Appraiser, that’s gotta be resolved
I thought the Genovese was the most powerful of all the 5 families
Gerry was my favorite. I definitely thought he was gonna be a major player…
Comparing them to the Luchese family and then saying it’s the most powerful family is incorrect. The Genovese and Gambino families have always been larger and more powerful than the Luchese, Bonano, and Colombo families.
I don’t think you can say the Lupertazi’s won the war as they had to negotiate with the Sopranos to end it after they started it and Phil ended up getting whacked for his trouble
They always said that they were based off the at the time luchesse. But the Colombo’s would make more sense.
I love the video. One thing though, Lucchese’s have never at any point been the most powerful of the families. It’s always been the Genovese and Gambinos that we’re the powerhouses. I do agree they mirror the Lucchese’s the most though
Fun Fact. If you've ever watched the movie The Green Book which is based off real events and people, the driver played by Vigo Mortensen was playing Tony Lip who was the guy playing Carmine Lupertazzi Sr in this show
Anybody here also watch Power? Do you think it was an homage to The Sopranos to make Tommy's father a NY mobster by the name of Terese? Same universe 15-20 years later?
You got so many facts wrong but good video for the ones that never watched the show
Rusty was not a cell-mate of Tony B. Only Angelo was.
Where did you get info on Carmine Snr's father from?
You mention that the Lupertazzis mirror the Luccheses, but then reference Castellano, who was in the Gambino crew.
It can be argued that either the genovese or gambinos were the most powerful family but I’ve never heard of the luccheses being referred to as the most powerful. They’re most likely right behind the genovese and gambino family but I don’t think they were ever bigger or more powerful than either of them
during the 60s and 70s they were right with the genovese only behind the gambinos due to the relationship between tommy lucchese and carlo gambino having a lasting impact.
This is one of my favorite channels on RUclips, but I think you mean "oversee" and not "overview" 1:35
ginnys brother in law is not the head of a mafia family the point is he is a "civilian" that can reasonably visit johnny in prison without arousing suspicion while at the same time be trusted to pass messages to other mobsters.
Like everything in life you realise it's not as good as it was in your head
The Gambino Family was the top family at the time of the Sopranos show.
With both the Luchese and the Lupertazzi family existing in the Sopranos universe I wonder whether there is also the Colombo family? John Gotti is spoken of on many occasions. Chris even mentions Sammy 'The Bull' Gravano.
Paulie mentions the Colombo family when he talks about "surviving by the skin of his nuts"
@@calemroberts2941 That's right! Thanks! I guess In Sopranos there is simply more powerful mob families.
The real families exist but they wanted to be careful not to depict anyone who really existed.
the family of early man.
Terese and Monago were just the names of the bosses, not a separate family.
So that's who George is, that makes a lot of sense now
*Animal Blundetto* "this pug was my priest, my rabbi and my old man rolled into one.. very supportive of my massage therapy passion. Taught me the "compromise technique."
Wes calwell
Also, their name literally means "Crazy wolfs" and seeing as they are figuratively the "wolves at the door" antagonists...
cmon st givee us road tooo respecttt
Its a missed opportunity for the show to not have developed any of the other New York mafia families. I would imagine them taking advantage of the situation at the end of the series with both Lupertazzi and Soprano families being weakened.
Paulie survived the Colombo war by the skin of his nutz.😮
Even if Tony died, Jersey won the war.
They are a damn family.
Half the family is in the morgue
No,Tony,Sil,Bobby,other Tony,Chris,pussy out long ago .
Who's left ?
@@jamesmeow3039there's a lot of members off screen we don't see. Ppl die, they move up an replace them.
Can anyone answer me this !!?! Phil Leotardo… mentioned he may have done time in prison, but it was never specified. Anybody know how many years he did in the can.
Angelo was a close cellmate with Tony B, not Rusty. As far as we know, the show never references Rusty being in the can. Phil however, was in the can but I forget how many years it was. I do not recall him mentioning it, heh heh.
Familys’s? Fathers’s? Who the fuck talks like this 😂
I wouldn’t call Butchie “incompetent”. He was the last man standing. He kept his eye on the ball. And his other eye on the bench.
I’m not so sure about that whole thing about Ginny’s other brother being the boss of a family.
If that was the case, why did she have to go back to working like a civilian after Johnny passed away and the fallout with Phil? I know at one point they specifically mentioned that she had to go back to working like a civilian. I don’t think that would’ve been the case if her brother was the boss of a New York family. Could be an accidental retcon or misunderstanding or something.
I would think they were the Genovese or Gambinos I heard they both held power in Jersey
Tony B and Vito's disappearance sparked the NJ/NYC war.
Taking out Fat Dom and curb stomping Coco didn't help.
I always assumed that Lil Carmine took over the family. At the sit-down to where it was decided to whack Phil, Butch looks at Lil Carmine for consent before agreeing to the terms of reconciliation with Tony.
The Feds just wanted to take down a boss. Johnny should have let Little Carmine have it.
I'd say the genevese were always the strongest. Maybe the bonannos aswell during the Massino reign, till he flipped
You should read up more on lcn. you are dead wrong, Lucchese have their power base lies in Bronx and Harlem. They have crews in Brooklyn. Both The Gambinos and Genovese are bigger families.
Paul Castellano was not boss of the Luchese family, he was boss of the Gambino crime family
Stop fuckin lookin at me - Jackie Jr
Castalano was the head of the Gambino Family.
I don't think those are the actual five families in the sopranos universe. These names we hear, like Andy Infante or George Paglieri, are just the bosses, that doesnt mean the family has their name
Carmine Lupertazzi Sr. = Paul Castellano / Sonny Franzese
Carmine Lupertazzi Jr. = Michael Franzese
Johnny Sac = John Gotti
Butchie = Sammy Gravno
In real life, Jersey was split into three territories by the Mafia: Atlantic City belongs to Philadelphia, the Newark crews are affiliated directly with the five New York families and Elizabeth and northern Jersey are their own family.
Ohhh, young and tall and tan and lovely.
Lupertazzi family would cease to exist as a major power because of RICO.
That last sit down was bugged they're talking murders so even if Tony wasn't killed he's doing life. Tony,Butch and Little Carmine all going down.
Incompetent?! Ho another expert heard from… Butch said it best when he said: we decapitate and do business with whatever is left.
Forgot to mention the death of Rusty
Don's never wear shorts
Little carmine was the true winner lol
So after Phil gets whacked does that mean Carmine Jr. becomes the new Boss with Butch as his Under Boss?
Luchesess? Have you done any research?
Where does Sal from Yonkers fit in the guy who spotted vito in the gay bar
Didn’t have the makings of a Varsity athlete
When did Carmine get clipped?...he had a stroke
none of it makes sense all 5 real life families are mention in the show via directly or their members are spoken of. henry hill, john gotti, Massino, Colombo family, and a former Genovese solider is on TV during season 1. so unless the families changed names.... whatever happened there
I don't think the Lucchese crime family has ever been considered the most powerful. Their historical power base is also definitely not Brooklyn its the Bronx and Upper Manhattan.
Goodfellas Jimmy Burke, Tommy, and Henry Hill are the associates of Lucchese family
Butch was far from incompetent.
Phil wasn’t the 3rd boss he had Doc killed and became the 4th… He didn’t want the job at first it was between the young guy and Doc, Doc had the young guy killed at a meal with Silvio … Then Phil had Doc killed after taking food off his plate (literally) and asking about his wife
Genovese or gambinos are 1000% most powerful, yet lucchese are amall but militant,
Sopranos had good writing but they didn't expand well on the whole Doc Santoro situation, also Gerry the Hairdo situation
You failed to mention that Phil did twenty years in the can.
What is the can?
@@Conky88prison
@@killyyy370 they don't have cans in prison though.
@@killyyy370 actually that's wrong what I said. They do have cans. Africans. Mexicans. Puerto Rico Ricans.
Well why would he? The exact amount of years Phil did in the can is never mentioned in the show.
Who is DiMeo?
TOO MANY GERKINS
Should've done your Mafia research. The Gambinos were NY most powerful Mafia family second by the Genovese
So if the Sopranos universe has its own 5 families, then wtf was Meadow babbling about?
BUCHIE AND AL TOOK OVER THE FAMILY WHEN THEY KILLED PHIL
Luccheses have never been the most powerful family in NYC since. Since the 70s they’re like third at best behind the Genovese and the Gambino families.