Noon ET! *LIVE* Episode 28 - Wags Joins Us to Discuss 2024 + Airliner Mishaps
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- Every Monday at 8PM ET, Mover (F-16, F/A-18, T-38, 737, helicopter pilot, author, cop, and wanna be race car driver) and Gonky (F/A-18, T-38, A320, dirt bike racer, author, and awesome dad) discuss everything from aviation to racing to life and anything in between. Featuring Wags!
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Wags is such a nice guy.
Hell yeah man, I had always enjoyed his own videos because of his voice and how he explains everything, and here with Mover, Gonky and Wombat you can see he is really a nice guy!
The cool kids watch from The Ready Room. Just saying.
Amen brother! LOL!
I'm here for that gunky action
Damn straight!
@@clooterus4456 donkey action
Gronky action
"Freedom is on us this weekend" should be the official guard/reserves slogan.
All these maps are incredible. We need the ability to fly from one to the other side they are all starting to match up.
"The man in the arena.... " Teddy Roosevelt
Fabulous job by the crew. Wombat nailed the entire MAX discussion with his comment about not knowing if they lost pax driving trained, practiced procedures.
Wags seemed surprised (or confused?) that the A-6 was carrying HARMS for some reason. They certainly did…and often. Just finshed “Our Lives on the Line”; an autobiography of an A-6 aviator in Desert Storm and he carried HARMS on multiple missions. So…don’t be sad Wags…you’re all good
On the segment about burnout, it isn't just a fighter piolt problem. We are feeling the hurt quite hard in the Nuclear field and especially so in the submarine fleet. I think if the Navy needs to make so.e pretty drastic changes to the way it operates to get people to want to stay in longer. Love the content guys keep up the great work!!
It's government in general from teacher burn out to burnout in hospitals which have their own government like structure.
I'm sure the North Korean Air Force is eagerly waiting DCS MiG-29A. That will be the best simulator they have in their entire air force. I've seen pictures of them already using DCS.
Two dimensional training in 3 dimensional space is not going to help them. Pulling Gs, bird strikes, electronic warfare and restarting engines after flame outs are things not in DCS. At best they can see what their enemy can do.
North Korean 9-13 not 9-12
been flying in DCS for 6+ years and the progress is staggering.
This was very enjoyable to watch! Gotta love Wags and Eagle Dynamics! As a private pilot of 25 years and a flight simmer since the mid 80's (teen years, C-64, Amiga, etc), DCS is my daily fix and has been my main source of entertainment since the LOMAC days. I actually purchased the Rus Black Shark and then the Eng version, lol. The A-10C was next, then the Hornet. Purchased more DCS modules than I have time to enjoy..haha. Currently, I'm having an absolute blast in the Mudhen in VR with the Varjo Aero! OMG that thing is incredible. I recently purchased and assembled my PT Actuator 6DOF motion rig,... exclusively for DCS 😂
Hey, you only live once and this is as close as I'll ever get to living my childhood dreams of flying fighter jets and combat helicopters!!! Love the DCS Apache as well. Can't wait for the Kiowa and Chinook! Fond memories of everthing Janes (late 80's, 90's). Keep up the great work guys! 👍🏾
Having done twenty, 16 on the flightline, experienced a wealth of 'stories', so when Wombat, Mover and Gonky get going, it's all good stuff, AND helps recall all the 'stuff' we did. Things like sitting on the top of an AC-130 Gunship in Thailand, during our Vietnam Expeditions, doing buddy guard for a guy in the fuel tanks, with flares going off overhead and security searching for possible sappers crossing to the flightline, and us going on 'business as usual'. Lots of peacetime (Cold War) flying and tip of the spear stuff, and boredom relief, :-). I never miss the BS but the camaraderie and fixing/launching jets, I would still do today if I could. Love all of you and keep up the channel.
Flight attendant in Europe here. We haven’t grounded our MAX fleet, we simply added an additional crew member to… hold the doors? I guess?
How about just overselling the plane and say them on boarding: "Welcome. Do you wan't indoor seat or terrace?"
@@timppaUT I should forward this idea to the brass
I heard someone say the lack of fatalities on the Airbus was due to the passengers following instructions and leaving their bags behind. Good for them!
The window seats are now 50% off. Middle suddenly became more desirable!
I remember reading somewhere, the B-1 with a failed seat... the WSO in question was a new guy in the squadron on one of his first couple flights. Hell of an introduction! Bet that was a scary ride home waiting for the seat to fire at any moment. Supposedly the roof hatch went too.
21:32 Honestly, the pilot sounds cool like a cucumber, given the stressful situation. Clear and professional communication... There's no panic or disorientation in the voice, at all. If I've been in that situation I would've likely been already sitting warm and squishy 💩... 😎
I’m with Wombat, even in the Army 2007 the leadership was toxic and I lost my desire to serve after 11 years. Loved serving my country but it was time to part ways!
The HUD on the A350 is fantastic Gonky. But not all airlines have them.
Mike I bet it is, I think ALL airplanes need a HUD!
@@themoverandgonkyshowAlways wanted one in the Triple One, but they still didn’t fit one when it had its digital update!
Love the show too. Keep up the great work👏
1:01:55 YES! I'm so stoked to full fidelity tanks (and hopefully also ships in the future)!!
awesome show good to see wambat and wags back on.
Love all the episodes, but Wags is always a fun addition. As someone who watches these videos piecemeal - any chance of adding time stamps?
Great video. I m into DCS for 1.5 years now. Began it with the A-10 C and the F/A-18C. Vulkan is the next big step i have been waiting for.
Watching through the Eagle Dynamics 2024 promo with Wags and the boys is awesome! Hopefully I can build a rig and try it out myself. Great to hear from each of you and your insights on aviation happenings in both the military and commercial aviation world. Hopefully Gonky doesn't roll off in the storm and Mover gets power back. 🤣
this was a great discuss ! "news of the week" and a lot to work with. Excellent
Missed the live due to time change. This was a great show. Really enjoyed the reviews of the recent events. Have a friend who is a captain of a major airline who text me an image of the Alaska as he was taxing passed in at Portland. I immediately thought boeing and the max in trouble (again). We will see. I thought the crew did a phenomenal job getting that jet down. Loved the review guys. Thank you. So very interesting….like a debrief….love this✈️
I saw it originally scheduled for 8 PM EST, but then I took another look and it was live. I guess they made the time change on really short notice so they wouldn't run into the college football championship game.
Your podcasts could never be too long!!! Great job guys. Enlisted burn out is for real. Being in a sea going F14 squadron, we were always going somewhere. Hard on the family.
In 2009 my instructor for my CFII rating was a 3000 hour furloughed airline pilot who used to be an instructor at NDU. It was quite a bit later before the airlines started hiring again.
It's not an exit door. It's a fuselage plug. It's on the -8 Max's. If the aircraft were comprised of only coach seats, it would be an emergency exit.
It's actually only the max 9, the max 8 has a special version called the max 200 that has the bonus emergency exit.
Yes I know my fat fingers hit the 8 while I was driving but yes 9s for sure.
The B-1A had an escape pod like the F-111. This was changed to ejection seats on the B.
The Baccaneer - DCS - WAGS- Hmmm.
I think the F-86 had (I believe) a rudimentary radar gun sight
Awesome show guys as always!
Love it
Awesome show fellas!
There's another podcast where they talked to an E-2 pilot that flew it without the radar dome cross country. They allegedly used the radio callsign "Topless"...
I used to work avionics on CH-46E's in the Marines; that might be an interesting future aircraft for DCS given ops in multiple theaters over the decades, from Vietnam through Iraq 1&2 and AFG. Would add some nice LHA/LHD ship-borne ops to go with the Harrier and future AH-1W, too. Plenty of NATOPS around on the -46. National US Armed Forces Museum pulled a handful out of storage in the last couple of years in the desert and flew them back to KHOU, so you can even still get some time on them. The Echo models that I worked on had AFCS and made the life of the pilots work much easier; how those early Phrog pilots in Vietnam got those things around as they did having to constantly beep the engine RPM's up and down to match the Nr always blew my mind.
I started flying in high school before the Marines and always wanted to fly military and beyond, however, unfortunately for me, after my service I wouldn't be able renew my flight medical and had to find something else to do in life. Grew up with PC flight sims and around my best friend's Dad who was a USAF F-4 and USAFR F-16 pilot, and subsequent DL pilot. My friend's dad had recently got out of F-16 school in AZ during GW1 (went active duty F-4 to reserve F-16) and the old Micropose Falcon 3.0 had just come out. Thought it was pretty cool even back then how the radar's closely resembled the actual screens. Amazing how far these sims have come now!
After I got out of the Marines and finished college, I later worked at Southwest Airlines HQ for a couple of years and was able to get into one of their Level-D sims, and I was able to try out the HUD there on one of their NG sims. It was definitely helpful in low visibility approaches and such; surprised they didn't/don't put those on the right side, as well. Coming from my knowledge of HUD's in F-16's and beyond, I wasn't sure how helpful a HUD might be in a 737 but I walked away convinced in their value.
As a WN employee I would periodically get buddy passes that I could give to friends and family to use, and so a friend of mine who went into the Navy as an aviation physiologist was able to get me into the full-motion V-22 sim at MCAS New River, while he was assigned to, at the time, a newly transitioned V-22 squadron. Had a really nice retired O5 IIRC, take me through a little bit of everything. LHD ops, aerial refueling, and more. In that regard, those 2 hours of sim time were as close as I would get to flying in the military and it meant a lot to me. The cockpit was much improved over the CH-46 in probably in every way, but one thing that it didn't have that I thought even it would have benefited from, was a HUD. Definitely for the price taxpayers paid for those, I would have thought they could have been there. I later worked on a different project at a different company where some USAF C-32's got a nice HUD upgrade, too. Borrowed a lot of the tech from FedEx that they had developed for their 75's.
Jet seat or Motion Simulator for feed back :). Love my Jet seat
The announcements about updated and high fidelity ground units are awesome! Does this extend to naval units like using specific positions in an Arleigh Burke and others?
Entertaining as always. I couldn’t join the military due to medical. Took me a year to get a medical for my PPL, DCS brings my wanna be fighter pilot dreams to life and the 172 flying around the city is my escape from a long day. When the towers shutdown and no one else is around cruising the night sky is my mental health time.
Awesome. Some of my favorite flights were just me in the Hornet out in the middle of the Pacific during sunset. Nothing but an aircraft carrier within 700 miles of me, so peaceful.
@@themoverandgonkyshow I bet that’s an amazing feeling for sure! Great experiences, glad to have found your channel and live vicariously lol. Enjoy all the videos and to hear we all battle similar things in life.
Having a HUD on the C-130J is amazing. I can teach someone to land in one pattern with it.
4 of my favorite people, I almost caught it live too but work duties prevented it 😭 Great show! Love the melding of DCS and real world experiences 🎉
Shanghai is pretty cool, even though I'm hardly an A-10 fanboy. And what about Doug?
@@ypw510saying these are 4 of my favorite people isn’t a dig at anyone else. If that were the case, I just insulted every other person on planet earth…
@@kickZtailout
I'm just being silly really, but I really enjoyed when Shanghai came on, and Doug keeps everything running smooth. It's noticeably different when Doug isn't available and their self-directing.
@@ypw510ahh ok, my apologies.
I wouldn't volunteer for deployments because of my family, and I don't regret it. I would have obviously gone if it wasn't a choice, but that never happened to me...
I love the controller that took over said “Good afternoon”
WAGS- if considering an AWACS module, is there any reason to not also consider a Naval Combat System mod too? Far more combat systems operators out there than pilots that would LOVE to fully join the action. I am a retired Navy NTDS and Aegis SME and sim developer for operator training- all from unclassified Navy systems, weapons specs and reference guides… the work is virtually half done already!
have you guys thought about asking trevor smith aka. hoover to be on the show, he's an F-15 pilot and 1 of very few air force pilots to get carrier qualified in the F-18. I think it would make a very interesting show along with wambat.
love the banter 🤣😂
So at 1:00:44 that would be Kandahar back in like 2001. The Soviet hangers (plural) at BAF were next to the tower, if 2001-2010 90% of the facilities would be on the "left" side of the runway in this shot, and BAF is surrounded on all sides by mountains.
No1..like the Brady bunch tiles on the screen..
No2.. would it be nice if there was a red button to hit that automatically puts the transponder on 7700?
Maybe even a data burst to ATC?
HECK YEAH I LOVE WOMBAT
Originally the B-1 had an escape capsule system for a 6 person crew. I think like 3-4 B-1A's had that F-111 on steroids system. The ejection seats were a costs saving issue. Hearing not all crew members even had a seat kinda seems like TOO MUCH CUT!
Historically, depending on the year, B-1 MX has been underfunded to requirement by as much as 50pc. Of course the MC rates reflect this.
When something happens that you never seen before, and don't regularly train on, good luck keeping your performance to spec. I had a B757 touchdown one night and go backup, and all I could see in my mind was this thing blowing up on the side of the mountain in front of it. Turned out to be no big deal except it flew over a beach restaurant and scared the hell out of everyone (soon after 9/11).
#ReplayCrew great show boys 👍🏻
Im waiting for the Navy/Marine team F-4B/N/J/S. I made skins for every single F-4B Navy/Marine squadron and their variations down to accurate BuNos for Strike Fighters.
1944/45 Essex Class Carrier in the video...specifically Intrepid CV-11....by Magnitude 3
shes on it souls on board and fuel !
“Do you have emergency….?” And that’s why you DO call Mayday. Sure, you are not Iceman at that moment, but everybody needs to hear that mayday call to switch to emergency mode.
We also didn’t call it for a long time, cause, you know, we were cool, too. But it helps everyone “get” it, including you yourself and the crew. Some airlines even call for adding mayday once after the callsign on every call.
We also used to train with a generic sim-callsign, usually ltu400. Guess what? We had lots of emergencies where everybody called as ltu400 during the real deal. Train the way you fight, fight the way you train!
You are under so much stress at that moment, you really do drop down to your level of training. At least during the startle phase.
That wasn't an issue with "mayday vs" emergency. That was a separate frequency (Center vs approach) after the handoff. You wouldn't declare Mayday on every freq anyway. As we're trained in military training (and I meant to bring this up and forgot), once you declare an emergency, your new callsign is includes emergency at the end. This reminds everyone of your status.
@@CWLemoineApparently that emergency got lost on the handover from one screen to the next, so even though the aircrew was in survival mode, ATC was like “something with emergency” and didn’t do the hand over as a full blown shtf.
And in the end, if you make it, you are writing the report anyway. So just call mayday and start the chain for everyone. If it turns out it was a bit much drama, one can always downgrade to pan or cancel the emergency.
I remember those exact same conversations in our company. After an initial adjustment period, everyone came on board.
From a staffing problem in the military, either congress needs to recruit and train a larger force, or reduce the strategic commitment. That's before they even consider duty stations, pay, or benefits.
I do wonder.. if ED releases a high fidelity MIG-29A (9-12 iirc) what happens with the current "not high fidelity" FC3 MIG-29A?
Ward is good people. We’re all a bit peculiar in our own ways. I don’t find anything particularly “deep” about the intel BUT…I do learn a thing or two.
....again we're just poking fun, I'm a big fan of all his F-14 stuff. Mooch is killing it.
@@themoverandgonkyshow . i know you guys are. been following both channels since the start.
"Wags here from Eagle Dynamics! "
Wags !
Was there something mentioned about Chinook release year expectations? They kinda talked a bit about when to expect other modules in the vid, but no date for chinook?
They (Boeing) has discovered at least nine other 737 -9's with loose door plugs. They believe it's a manufacturing process on the line issue.
"... it's hard to scream"? :P If I would be a captain, I would definately deploy those oxy-masks on such situation just to prevent panic spreading among passengers, so they keep shut up! :P
btw, on our morning news today was news about than broken window insident, but there was that same video that you showed of that door insident!? Excellent.
Wombat said he wouldn't have a clue on such an incident!? Isn't there really any warning light on cockpit that lit if plane has open/missing door!? Or even some master caution about it? Weird.
Yup. Our Hornet. White circle with blue ring in it.
Door is built to prevent ingress into the flight deck. Not (air) egressing the flight deck.
Here’s the question I would want to ask Wags. How come they do not model in things breaking on jets. You routinely hear Gonky, Mover, Wombat and other guests saying “This never worked” or something broke, declared and emergency, bent the plane. I mean with thrust vectoring nozzles, I wonder how often in reality they break, stop working, or get stuck.
The capability exists in DCS, and can be triggered in the mission editor in the Tomcat for instance. So you'll likely see this more and more with other modules, etc.
What is amazing is what the NTSB says today the plug door is designed to blow out during a Depress. Situation
“I wonder if this will make it easier to get the exit row”. 🤣
WOMBAT was on fire this show 😂😂😂😂
im old since Hawaii airlines if im sittin im strapped in
NAS Fallon!
When I first heard the ATC recordings of the Alaska flight I thought wow she is super stresses and almost seemed to be rushing things. Giving souls and fuel before asking. Landing with out another go around for altitude and speed.
But after you guys broke it down it all kind of makes sense. I wasn't aware or understand that it was the cockpit door that was open (I had heard about a door but assumed it was a lav door or something)
So them having a bang, probably would feel some sort of a shake I would guess, decompression alarm and then the cockpit door slamming open. I would understand that instant WTF is happening. Then once the situation calmed down and like you guys said the plane is flying. You can hear the relaxation in the pilot talking. And yes I can see them potentially worried about more of the plane coming apart, potentially lost lives and more if we keep circling around. This plane is flying for now let's just put it on the ground. And I had read someone else comment about a potential overweight landing and not burning off fuel. I don't think they worried to worried about the condition of the plane at that point.
All Sim training can't duplicate the real tail on fire, we are crashing, somehow we need to live situations. And no one has ever died from a sim error. Just a quick reboot and try again. I know these trainings and sims are to help make everything just muscle memory and try to work out what to do.
You guys said as a pilot you hope take off wheels up wheels down land and the worse situation is they ran out of your favorite snack. And because you don't read about any incidents on a daily basis so you kind of get into a rythem and emergencies take a bit of a back seat. Won't happen to me attitude. And yet some how these pilots seem to step up and make Miracles out of potential complete disasters
So in long I appreciate all the things you guys do and the videos you fire off. They break down from some pilots all made things click and see it from a different point of view.
The cockpit door is supposed to open for rapid decompression certification. Even boeing has released this statement
I did not know that, thanks!
I am dickish about making pilots read back hold short instructions, Runway assignments, and the current ATIS. I don't care what anyone says about it. I'll make the tower controller get the ATIS if the pilot is trying to run away from me on ground. 😀
Will be great if its caming ground forces to dcs ,play with Friends that just like shooters
Next up we need to get Nick from ED in the spotlight 😊
Hello 👋
Hi gronkly🎉
TCAS will not alarm at less than 1,000 AGL.
I only watch this channel
I told myself im not going to spend any more money on DCS or controls so I can focus on preparing for boards. Otherwise ill just keep doing it in the sim and never get there :D
I got to try a real Army OH-58 at PTA...
hey let Wags talk !
Are these shows no longer being posted as podcasts?
If the biggest complaint is the coms, I think we’re doing good lol.
What's the Southwest incident that was mentioned?
"Illuminate confirmed " 😂
In the voice of Forrest Gump That there is a big boat
the swiss cheese model i know ive heard that before
Gen Sakai, (Ret, HIANG) said that the F-22 pilots were great pilots, just not as great as officers. I took that to mean jobs on the ground...
Hi mover , Great as always .
In fact the mentioned Zagros mountains are located in west and north west of Iran not Iraq , I was excited and I was so waiting for more details about Iraq map , I have a demand if it's possible for you to ask wags that which countries will be coming with Iraq map , I mean like the Syria that some part of Turkey , Israel and other countries are exist and players can use , So some part or the whole west of Iran or North of Persian Gulf will be a part of Iraq map ?
If it's possible for you to asking him ?
Thank you so much.
It's not 30,000 feet but there was that Aloha airlines 737 that had a chunk of the upper fuselage come apart and a VIOLENT depressurization at 24,000 feet and they managed to land it.
If I remember it was like structural failure/ pressure cycles or something. So if a metal fatigued 737 could lose a chunk of it's structure at 24,000 feet and still land shouldn't a structurally good 737 handle losing its door at 30,000 feet??
Will Iwo Jima come to Marianas?
Dynamic Slots coming in 2 weeks!
Wags needs to talk to Steve Hinton Sr about WWII and Korean era fighters. The museum at Chino actually has a real flying Zero and lots of other piston fighters from that era and he flies them all. Japanese, Russian, German or American they fly and maintain them. Maybe they've contacted Steve and doesn't want to deal with a simulation. If you want to know how a Zero flies contact Steve Hinton Sr, if you want to know how a Mig 17 flies contact John Penney. I'm just saying...
NGL, nothin about the Bagram clip reminded me of Bagram
That door plug just f*cked off
It's the arm chair pilots out there that rule the roost, not real experienced airline pilots who have trained up the wazoo for these kinds of emergencies. Just a bit of Sarcasm to make our day, lol!
So is this new timeline?
No Sir, most of the time it'll be Monday 8pm EST
@@themoverandgonkyshow lema chicken
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Cross checking with Google Earth it surely does not look like Bagram. Bagdad as I see it, am I stupid? But why would all these guys not know it @ 1:00:04??