I play Chrome Softs and I really like the spin numbers (2400 for a driver) and since im not the biggest guy out there I like just the tiny extra springyness to the cover. Really great review! Great job!
I like the addition of the "test setup" slides in the past few videos. Made everything very clear. I'd seen them in the past but at least to my observation, they seem to be there consistently now. Keep up the great work; best golf channel on RUclips by a longshot
@@dragonslayer7740 well I'm not sure. Most of whats played on tour is the Chrome Soft X, the majority of tour pros playing the Chrome Soft are on the champions tour where the Tour B RX is prominent. I'd just be curious to see which category it fits closer to.
@@mrmovess_ yeah I watched the whole thing now and I agree with you. Weird that a company would make one premium tour ball and one premium “slower speed” ball. I prefer what Bridgestone did. But then again, maybe Callaway know that the market in the Tour ball spectrum is just too saturated for them to have 2 offerings.
@@dragonslayer7740 Yeah I'm sure they've done their research but I definitely prefer the way Bridgestone has segmented their tour balls. Regardless, I think the chrome soft is an amazing consumer/amateur offering.
The chromesoft has been my ball for a few seasons now (even played the Hex Chrome for a good while). I actually can tell (when I find other premium balls in the woods and give em a go) that it's the wrong ball for me. But it's so dam soft and quiet when I hit it.. I just love that! I miss the premium soft balls.
@@brendan859 it's a fair question... i really like the tacky soft feel of the CS when i hit them. You can really tell theyre tacky. Plus, i buy them in large quantities when they're on sale as x-outs....so the price is pretty low (about $20 per dozen), and I have a ton of them. ;) Maybe the next time i order more balls, I'll be brave and get some of the newer clickier premium options. The provs are such great fliers off the driver!
I did see him do the robot at a cool gay club in Toronto. I was with my new boyfriend Sven and Matty was under a strobe getting sick with the robot! He was so hot, but I had to give him a shirt to put on.
I can't go back to Callaway after the quality issues they had. I spent most of last summer thinking my swing was the problem. Went to MTB-X in the fall, and got back 15 yards. At best I am 270 off the tee, on a hot day, with baked fairways, and an elevated tee. In other words, not a bomber. Played a round with my usual Truvis in May last year. First 3 holes, each drive was over 290. One we measured at 330 yards! Holy crap. Sign me up for the tour I thought. Lost the ball on the next hole, pulled another ball out of the sleeve, and never hit a drive over 240 for the next four months. Would centre the face on a swing, see a great initial flight, and the ball would have a late 30 yard fade, or fall out of the sky. Even people I played with would comment on what they also thought was a well struck ball, but only getting out to 230. Right now I'm getting 250 out of a 96mph swing speed and so off season speed training is on the agenda. However at almost $60 a dozen, I would have appreciated a coupon towards newer balls once Callaway discovered substandard balls were pouring out of the factory.Even a lousy $10 off just to say sorry would have been appreciated. It also seems that this was a bit of a industry secret as well because I only found out about the issue this past spring via My Golf Spy. I don't recall seeing golf magazines splashing this all over the place. If it was well publicized at the time I simply did not see it. Had I known the ball had issues, I would have switched sooner and had a less frustrating season.
Yes they were really bad in the UK as well. Quality control was shocking. I to tried the Snell mtbx but went back to my "confidence" ball Srixon Z star Great ball and there's always a deal from someone.
TXG anywhere south of the mason dixon line is fine with me. I live in New Orleans. I know Matt and Gavin are partial to Florida. That would be a location I would travel to. Not sure what the saturation of club fitters is. Given the states demographic, probably pretty high. But then again. They’re not TXG.
I totally agree! It has that check and stop action when pitching and chipping around the green, even spinning backwards with my 60°! But the way I can actually feel it compress and shoot off the face of my driver is another reason I fucking love this ball...
callaway would 100% tell matt to look at the csx. the csx20 is the best ball i’ve ever played. it’s long, it spins perfectly around the greens, and for me it’s acceptably durable. also people need to realize distance isn’t just achieved with speed. launch and spin play a factor. so just because a ball may be slower (because it’s softer), it can still travel a fair distance with higher launch and lower spin.
Another great video. Thanks. Sightly off topic but will you be reviewing the Cobra King Tour irons? Looking to upgrade from my old Rsi1s and these are looking good.
Feel when putting and control around the green is key for me. This is why when I try other balls, I go straight back to playing the Chrome-soft Triple Tracks.
Tried chrome soft but found i lost distance. Went back to tp5 until I tried tour response, which is now my gamer. For me no trade off to the tp5 and cheaper. Love it
I must be the outlier here as I’ve not had problems with the ChromeSoft. I admit I originally bought them because of Truvis (prefer yellow/black) but they perform fine for me. The downside for Callaway is I don’t buy as many balls as I might have otherwise because the only ones I’ve irretrievably lost are those that found water.
i haven’t watched the review yet but when it comes to golf balls i would say (after the issues with the cores) they are like number 8 on my list of balls to buy after Titleist Pro V1x, Srixon XV, TP5’s, Bridgestone, Snell MTBx, MaxFli, and a feathery from the 1800’s
I seem to remember the chrome soft started life as a “bargain” ball compared with the market leaders. The price point seems to have tracked its demand rather than its value.
Chromesofts were a great option, when they were quite a bit cheaper. Now there almost same price as pro V1 or tp5, so lost there usp a bit for me (although I do like the truvis!)
I think the Tour guys Callaway has all play Chrome Soft X, would be interesting to see that compare to the Pro V1x, Tour BX, TP5X and Snel MTBX, basically an updated version of the X model comparison you did a couple years ago.
I've played the Chrome Soft for the last couple of years, nice feel and I love the truvis, easy to find, and great feedback on backspin. But I just don't trust them anymore. Both in the sense of, is that my mistake or the balls? But also that they cut corners at the factory yet still charged a lot of money. I imagine I'm not alone on this.
This is my favorite ball... I really don't care if everyone says it's not manufactured well. This ball has the MOST spin with wedge shots I have ever used! This is the only ball I can actually spin backwards and I LOVE the feel. It is sooooooo soft, omg is it soft! I fucking love this ball. And the way you can feel it compress of the face of the driver and shoot forward so fast is a great feel about this ball. Have I mentioned this is my favorite golf ball???
I play the chrome soft, really like the feel around the greens and off the putter, also seems as long as any other off the tee for me , I do only swing driver at 100-105 mph thoe
I have been trying to find out what the compression of this year's Chrome Soft is...according to Callaway it is 10-13% softer than the Pro V1 which would imply a compression of 75-80 (Pro V1 being 90 according to google). I have a problem with the whole idea of soft is slow - the data simply does not support that conclusion. Even MGS admit there is no correlation between ball speed and compression for mid irons and the "wrong" correlation with wedges (ie softer is faster!). So they are left with a weak correlation for driver only, then only at the higher swing speeds and a correlation which completely disappears when you analyse the data for statistical significance. Then there is of course the issue that ball speed is merely one component of what makes a great shot...there is also launch angle, back spin, peak height and probably 2 or 3 other components that only TXG could explain properly. So to fixate on ball speed is rather odd. My take is that every golfer will have a golf ball which works better for them across the bag. Compression is not really the determining factor for that golf ball. Applying this to the actual test, depending on the number of balls hit 4.5 mph difference in ball speed would seem to be statistically significant (c.2.6%). I suspect the video is completely correct in that Matt is simply too fast for this particular ball and there is a degree of over-compressing the golf ball. So what we can say about this test is that it shows fairly conclusively that this is not the best golf ball for someone like Matt
Was just fit to Mizzy 921 Forged with Oban CT100 S shafts using my preferred ball, Chromesoft. 6i spin right around 5900 and the rest of the metrics looked good and much better than my current MP53.KBS Tour setup. Did I do myself a disservice by starting with what might not have been the best ball?
I used both all year...full shots close enough... chipping prov1 is 10x better for me...the chrome soft comes out like a knuckle ball chip for some reason where as the prov1 has expected height and nice spin that is predictable. I can can get the chrome close to the hole but i don't like the trajectory or the spin control. i am way more consistent with the pro 1. I really wanted to like the callaway ball as I use a full bag of callaways. Not to be but worth the experiment this year. Might try the chrome soft x but Prov1 is very very hard to improve on.
The feel/sound was always the thing for me. I never had the problems with the balls that MGS showed...maybe I was just lucky? What I did have was the balls, for me, cracked and split open 😮 not all of them but certanlinly more than Id expect to see. However, their price against the V1 was their selling point...that and its feel being the nearest to a balata of all the modern era balls. I'll still continue to use them 👍
I would love to hear why Ian and Matty use the balls they are using and the fitting process each used to get there. I’m currently debating between Pro V1x and Bridgestone Tour B X
I love the 2020 CS! It offers me the balanced characteristics I want from my ball. I could play the Pro V1 and CS interchangeably. Do you believe a softer ball can be more forgiving than a firmer ball?
Unfortunatly Callaway golf balls have lost my trust for at least 5 years after the 'my golf spy' test in 2019. They knew they had a problem and prioritised profits over performance. Good test guys, qual as always. Let's see how the x does.
Please will you tests with chrome soft & post the results with someone who has a slow swing speed & not swinging at pro speeds. Interested to see jo average results 80- 90 mph driver speeds 🏌🏿🤔 Cheers
I have mixed feelings about this ball. I have historically been a ProV1 devotee but decided to give this pill a try. I tested it within a simulator with 50+ full bore driver swings. To my dismay, the ball eventually split directly down the middle. I have had similar sessions with my ProV and nowhere near this result. For context, my ss is between 115-118mph with ball speeds from 165-170mph. By no means tour level but enough physical punishment on the ball to stress test it. I called callaway HQ and they were shocked and agreed to replace it. Not what I expected from a ‘premium’ ball. To be fair, on the course I love the performance. Not the longest ball, BUT the workability is really impressive. I have been able to draw the ball easily and the ball flight is relatively penetrating. Decent feel / spin with the wedges and very good feel with the putter. The verdict, this is a solid stable performing ball and that has questionable durability. Would I replace my ProV1 for this ball, not a chance. The Chromesoft will be my winter ball not my club play ball. I will test The Chromesoft x next based on my swing speed / ball speed.
Oh boy! I've been looking at the CS as a easier to get ball to replace the Mizuno RB Tour ... Does it make sense to try it when I'm struggling with too much spin, but still want the spin around the greens which is why I've not gone with the Bridgestone Tour BX ?
Hey guys, I’m a moderately low swing speed golfer and could really benefit from a ball with lower compression such as the chromesoft. Could you guys maybe run a comparison of this ball to the taylormade tour response or the titleist tour soft at Matt’s 70% swing speeds to address how the more average golfer may benefit from its softness?
I'm curious as to why Callaway wouldn't want their flagship ball competing with the actual number one ball in the world. Maybe that's the job of the CS X. But if the X ends up closer to the ProV1, would they then not have anything to compete with the ProV1X? Maybe the pros do.
Recently played a sleeve of these. Was extremely disappointed in the amount of wear the balls picked up in comparison to what i was used to with Pro V1. One ball literally only lasted 4 holes.
Hi! Great content as always! As a beginner I'm a little overwhelmed by the huge ball selection, and I'd appreciate some insight. TLDR: Any affordable(ish) balls that spin well, even at the cost of distance? I play Pitch & Putt with holes with maximum distance of 120 m (130 yd), which I consistently overshoot with a 9i, so distance is definitely not an issue. Greens are also quite small in general, and most of the time my ball rolls all the way to the back even when I hit the fringe at the front. This makes me think I need a grippier ball. I've been playing Inesis Distance 100 because they're 6€ a dozen. No brand will say "this ball trades off distance for spin", but I think that's exactly what I need. Is there such a thing?
Thaks guys! @r1l56me I've looked into the Kirkland before, and I couldn't find any reliable source here in Spain. All seemed to be scalpers selling them at Pro V1 prices. I appreciate the insight though! I'll try to look around a bit more in case I missed any source. Update: I wish I could post a picture here. 149.43€ for 2 dozen Kirkland Signature on amazon Spain. @Joe Garza cut seem UK-based, so maybe I can get a better deal on them. Thanks for the tip!
For the price of a chromesoft compared to the other big boys, I can’t understand why anyone would play it over a ProV or TP5. I find them on the course and put them in my junk ball pocket in my bag. This ball is the same price as other premiums and is by far the worst of the 3
In Europe : -Chrome Soft are 49 euros (Chrome Soft Triple Track are 55 euros) -TP5's are 58 euros (TP5 pix same price : 58 euros). -Pro V1's are 59 euros. So they are between 5 and 10 euros cheaper than the 2 other premium brands. It's not a lot, but for some people that's a psychological point.
In Canada (not sale prices): ProV1's / AVX are about $65 Chrome Soft $64 TP5's $60 Bridgestone Tour B's $60 Srixon Z-Star's $50 Over the last year I've switched from TP5 to Tour B ... didn't feel a difference in performance, just loved how easy to spot/track the yellow Tour B's are, and like playing something different than my partners ...
Australia TP5/X $73 ProV1 $70 Bridegstone Tour series $68 CS2020 $67 Z Star $50 Me, I'm buying up old stock of 2016 or 18 CS for $40. Used them for 4 years now, maybe not the very best for me but I know exactly how they'll perform and I love them around the green and off the putter. 95mph driver speed, 14 hcap, durable enough for me, lose them before I retire them, but can easily get 3 rounds out of one before it ends up in the practice bag as well.
The CS is not the fit ball for Matt. He will do better in the CSX. Whereas I am human and will do better in the CS and with the V1x - those two would be my comparison. I'm surprised they did not test the V1 versus CSX with Matt
I really do think they hurt themselves with the name. If the average consumer is in the shop, they see 8 different balls with the word “soft” in the name, but the Chrome Soft costs twice as much as any of the other ones. Which are they most likely to buy?
Not trying to be a smartass, but would one notice a difference between a 55 degree wedge and 56 degree, or would the player dependent dynamic loft prove that everyone’s swing is different and the relative wedge angle/degree does not matter....
Callaway golf balls got it and now it appears Srixon according to MyGolfSpy ....makes me wonder what expectation should the consumer have when buying "Premium" ball, should there be a defective guarantee? Or do we just continue to suck it up. "This is my ball. There are many like it, but this one is mine. ... I must fire my ball true. I must shoot straighter than the course who is trying to eat it up." #getballfit Thanks for video appreciated!
Its hard to argue why titliest has become the standard. The ability to pick a ball out of a pack and know that ball is exactly the same is the next ball should be the standard. Golf has too many factors, variances golf ball to golf ball that would dramatically effect performance are unacceptable
Love this channel and you guys..........But I would never buy a Callaway golf ball because of their blatant disregard for it's consumers who paid The High Premium Price for the previous iteration that was one of the worst balls in golf and they knew it but sold it any way.
TXG anywhere south of the mason dixon line is fine with me. I live in New Orleans. I know Matt and Gavin are partial to Florida. That would be a location I would travel to. Not sure what the saturation of club fitters is. Given the states demographic, probably pretty high. But then again. They’re not TXG.
Wobble balls! I had one that corkscrewed through the flight. I cut it open to find the core incredibly off-centered. Callaway knew they were selling garbage for years, yet continued to sell them. Never again would callaway get my $. Pro V1, TP5, Tour BX, or Z star only. Callaway balls go into the lake when I find them.
After the last Chromesoft ball i'll have a really hard time trusting callaway with my money on balls. There too many companies big and small that make excellent balls without the quality concern so it will probably take a few years before before I consider giving them a chance.
Just here before they hit 500k so people know im a real OG
now we know 👍😆
Same. Let the record show that i too am a true og.
I concur with this motion.
I can’t wait to see what the 500k giveaway is
I play Chrome Softs and I really like the spin numbers (2400 for a driver) and since im not the biggest guy out there I like just the tiny extra springyness to the cover. Really great review! Great job!
Love my Chromies.
Its a ball that for me never wins on the launch monitor in any one category, but I always seem to shoot great scores with it.
I play it too. It comes off of all the clubs nicely and has a wonderful accuracy for me while putting.
I like the addition of the "test setup" slides in the past few videos. Made everything very clear. I'd seen them in the past but at least to my observation, they seem to be there consistently now. Keep up the great work; best golf channel on RUclips by a longshot
The cymbals on the theme song are sick too
Loved the viddy as always boys. Curious how this would stack up against the softer premium balls in the Bridgestone line-up like the Tour B RX or RXS
Probably more towards the Tour BXS, given that this is played on Tour
@@dragonslayer7740 well I'm not sure. Most of whats played on tour is the Chrome Soft X, the majority of tour pros playing the Chrome Soft are on the champions tour where the Tour B RX is prominent. I'd just be curious to see which category it fits closer to.
@@mrmovess_ yeah I watched the whole thing now and I agree with you. Weird that a company would make one premium tour ball and one premium “slower speed” ball. I prefer what Bridgestone did. But then again, maybe Callaway know that the market in the Tour ball spectrum is just too saturated for them to have 2 offerings.
@@dragonslayer7740 Yeah I'm sure they've done their research but I definitely prefer the way Bridgestone has segmented their tour balls. Regardless, I think the chrome soft is an amazing consumer/amateur offering.
The chromesoft has been my ball for a few seasons now (even played the Hex Chrome for a good while). I actually can tell (when I find other premium balls in the woods and give em a go) that it's the wrong ball for me. But it's so dam soft and quiet when I hit it.. I just love that! I miss the premium soft balls.
If it’s the wrong ball for you, why don’t you switch balls? I mean you’re already paying the premium price for chrome softs, just buy pro v’s
@@brendan859 it's a fair question... i really like the tacky soft feel of the CS when i hit them. You can really tell theyre tacky. Plus, i buy them in large quantities when they're on sale as x-outs....so the price is pretty low (about $20 per dozen), and I have a ton of them. ;) Maybe the next time i order more balls, I'll be brave and get some of the newer clickier premium options. The provs are such great fliers off the driver!
“We dont have a robot” lol but you have a matty
😆 it'll have to do
@@clubchampionmedia better than a robot. I'll never forget the video with Alex Etches! Amazing.
Matty Boy is cost effective and efficient
I did see him do the robot at a cool gay club in Toronto. I was with my new boyfriend Sven and Matty was under a strobe getting sick with the robot! He was so hot, but I had to give him a shirt to put on.
It hasn't been tested if Matty is or isn't a robot. We must test it out
Really like the way you test the balls by comparing to Pro V1. Great insight.
I can't go back to Callaway after the quality issues they had. I spent most of last summer thinking my swing was the problem. Went to MTB-X in the fall, and got back 15 yards. At best I am 270 off the tee, on a hot day, with baked fairways, and an elevated tee. In other words, not a bomber. Played a round with my usual Truvis in May last year. First 3 holes, each drive was over 290. One we measured at 330 yards! Holy crap. Sign me up for the tour I thought. Lost the ball on the next hole, pulled another ball out of the sleeve, and never hit a drive over 240 for the next four months. Would centre the face on a swing, see a great initial flight, and the ball would have a late 30 yard fade, or fall out of the sky. Even people I played with would comment on what they also thought was a well struck ball, but only getting out to 230. Right now I'm getting 250 out of a 96mph swing speed and so off season speed training is on the agenda. However at almost $60 a dozen, I would have appreciated a coupon towards newer balls once Callaway discovered substandard balls were pouring out of the factory.Even a lousy $10 off just to say sorry would have been appreciated. It also seems that this was a bit of a industry secret as well because I only found out about the issue this past spring via My Golf Spy. I don't recall seeing golf magazines splashing this all over the place. If it was well publicized at the time I simply did not see it. Had I known the ball had issues, I would have switched sooner and had a less frustrating season.
Yes they were really bad in the UK as well. Quality control was shocking. I to tried the Snell mtbx but went back to my "confidence" ball Srixon Z star Great ball and there's always a deal from someone.
lets see some bloopers? Matt has to have some wild miss hits every once and awhile. Bring him back down to earth for the rest of us
Ya'll need a TXG south location for the winter season, it's sunny and 75 in NC. About to snow, sorry guys.
one day Mark!!! 😆
Should totally put a satellite location down in Alabama on the RTJ trail...paradise.
TXG anywhere south of the mason dixon line is fine with me. I live in New Orleans. I know Matt and Gavin are partial to Florida. That would be a location I would travel to. Not sure what the saturation of club fitters is. Given the states demographic, probably pretty high. But then again. They’re not TXG.
Vegas baby... and tax-free!
@@r1l56me how bout something that east and west coast can reach. Maybe Little Rock or Dallas.
You guys are absolutely amazing at what you do! Knowledge is power and has helped my game tremendously!
Still waiting for Matty to jar one!
I use Chrome Soft most of the time l like it primarily around the green and it just feels the best when I'm putting.
I totally agree! It has that check and stop action when pitching and chipping around the green, even spinning backwards with my 60°! But the way I can actually feel it compress and shoot off the face of my driver is another reason I fucking love this ball...
Matt’s consistency in this video is amazing
Love the channel guys! Not sure if you've done this already but I would love to see you guys fit a mid-handicap with a high swing speed
callaway would 100% tell matt to look at the csx. the csx20 is the best ball i’ve ever played. it’s long, it spins perfectly around the greens, and for me it’s acceptably durable. also people need to realize distance isn’t just achieved with speed. launch and spin play a factor. so just because a ball may be slower (because it’s softer), it can still travel a fair distance with higher launch and lower spin.
looking forward to testing the X for sure!
Sorry Rick, but TXG is now my first watched video in the morning
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Another great video. Thanks. Sightly off topic but will you be reviewing the Cobra King Tour irons? Looking to upgrade from my old Rsi1s and these are looking good.
yes we have a set coming in for testing soon
Feel when putting and control around the green is key for me. This is why when I try other balls, I go straight back to playing the Chrome-soft Triple Tracks.
Tried chrome soft but found i lost distance. Went back to tp5 until I tried tour response, which is now my gamer. For me no trade off to the tp5 and cheaper. Love it
I must be the outlier here as I’ve not had problems with the ChromeSoft. I admit I originally bought them because of Truvis (prefer yellow/black) but they perform fine for me. The downside for Callaway is I don’t buy as many balls as I might have otherwise because the only ones I’ve irretrievably lost are those that found water.
Loved this ball last year but couldn’t get the X this year. Can’t wait for 2021 to put it back in play
why am I watching this....playing lake ball pink lady pinnacle and top flite xxl AND the occasional Pro V1 found in the woods
Damn right!! I
i haven’t watched the review yet but when it comes to golf balls i would say (after the issues with the cores) they are like number 8 on my list of balls to buy after Titleist Pro V1x, Srixon XV, TP5’s, Bridgestone, Snell MTBx, MaxFli, and a feathery from the 1800’s
I seem to remember the chrome soft started life as a “bargain” ball compared with the market leaders. The price point seems to have tracked its demand rather than its value.
Good stuff gents.. I actually played a chrome soft for a bit this year and found it to be lacking off the tee.. little spinny I felt!!! 👏
I love playing the yellow and black soccer ball scheme,I think chrome soft has a better feel off the driver than pro v1
Looking forward to the new Kirkland V2 ball review!
Cant wait to see the Chromesoft X review!!
Please test for 100mph swing rather than 85mph. I think it might reveal more about the best target golfer for this ball. Thanks.
Chromesofts were a great option, when they were quite a bit cheaper. Now there almost same price as pro V1 or tp5, so lost there usp a bit for me (although I do like the truvis!)
I think the Tour guys Callaway has all play Chrome Soft X, would be interesting to see that compare to the Pro V1x, Tour BX, TP5X and Snel MTBX, basically an updated version of the X model comparison you did a couple years ago.
I've played the Chrome Soft for the last couple of years, nice feel and I love the truvis, easy to find, and great feedback on backspin.
But I just don't trust them anymore. Both in the sense of, is that my mistake or the balls? But also that they cut corners at the factory yet still charged a lot of money.
I imagine I'm not alone on this.
This is my favorite ball... I really don't care if everyone says it's not manufactured well. This ball has the MOST spin with wedge shots I have ever used! This is the only ball I can actually spin backwards and I LOVE the feel. It is sooooooo soft, omg is it soft! I fucking love this ball. And the way you can feel it compress of the face of the driver and shoot forward so fast is a great feel about this ball. Have I mentioned this is my favorite golf ball???
I play the chrome soft, really like the feel around the greens and off the putter, also seems as long as any other off the tee for me , I do only swing driver at 100-105 mph thoe
I have been trying to find out what the compression of this year's Chrome Soft is...according to Callaway it is 10-13% softer than the Pro V1 which would imply a compression of 75-80 (Pro V1 being 90 according to google).
I have a problem with the whole idea of soft is slow - the data simply does not support that conclusion. Even MGS admit there is no correlation between ball speed and compression for mid irons and the "wrong" correlation with wedges (ie softer is faster!). So they are left with a weak correlation for driver only, then only at the higher swing speeds and a correlation which completely disappears when you analyse the data for statistical significance.
Then there is of course the issue that ball speed is merely one component of what makes a great shot...there is also launch angle, back spin, peak height and probably 2 or 3 other components that only TXG could explain properly. So to fixate on ball speed is rather odd.
My take is that every golfer will have a golf ball which works better for them across the bag. Compression is not really the determining factor for that golf ball.
Applying this to the actual test, depending on the number of balls hit 4.5 mph difference in ball speed would seem to be statistically significant (c.2.6%). I suspect the video is completely correct in that Matt is simply too fast for this particular ball and there is a degree of over-compressing the golf ball. So what we can say about this test is that it shows fairly conclusively that this is not the best golf ball for someone like Matt
Was just fit to Mizzy 921 Forged with Oban CT100 S shafts using my preferred ball, Chromesoft. 6i spin right around 5900 and the rest of the metrics looked good and much better than my current MP53.KBS Tour setup. Did I do myself a disservice by starting with what might not have been the best ball?
With this test, now I am firmly in the Maxfli Tour camp. It figures how to be indistinguishable to the ProV1
I used both all year...full shots close enough... chipping prov1 is 10x better for me...the chrome soft comes out like a knuckle ball chip for some reason where as the prov1 has expected height and nice spin that is predictable. I can can get the chrome close to the hole but i don't like the trajectory or the spin control. i am way more consistent with the pro 1. I really wanted to like the callaway ball as I use a full bag of callaways. Not to be but worth the experiment this year. Might try the chrome soft x but Prov1 is very very hard to improve on.
Bridgestone e12 Speed vs Soft? For those on a budget!😉 Great stuff as usual!
The feel/sound was always the thing for me.
I never had the problems with the balls that MGS showed...maybe I was just lucky? What I did have was the balls, for me, cracked and split open 😮 not all of them but certanlinly more than Id expect to see. However, their price against the V1 was their selling point...that and its feel being the nearest to a balata of all the modern era balls.
I'll still continue to use them 👍
I would love to hear why Ian and Matty use the balls they are using and the fitting process each used to get there.
I’m currently debating between Pro V1x and Bridgestone Tour B X
I play a pro v1, bridgestone e6 speed or e7 or a tp5 off the tee but will always keep a chromesoft in my pocket to for every other shot and putts
I love the 2020 CS! It offers me the balanced characteristics I want from my ball. I could play the Pro V1 and CS interchangeably. Do you believe a softer ball can be more forgiving than a firmer ball?
Not 100% Mike, maybe that's something we can test in the future
In which ways is a golf ball forgiving?
Irons or a driver in off-center strikes, sure. But what makes a ball forgiving?
@@lowcodelucas1088 a lower spinning ball would hypothetically be more forgiving, since it would have reduced side spin for hooks/slices
Unfortunatly Callaway golf balls have lost my trust for at least 5 years after the 'my golf spy' test in 2019. They knew they had a problem and prioritised profits over performance. Good test guys, qual as always. Let's see how the x does.
Great review boys!
Excellent unbiased review 👍
We need a TXG triple track alignment test video.
Please will you tests with chrome soft & post the results with someone who has a slow swing speed & not swinging at pro speeds. Interested to see jo average results 80- 90 mph driver speeds 🏌🏿🤔
Cheers
I have mixed feelings about this ball. I have historically been a ProV1 devotee but decided to give this pill a try. I tested it within a simulator with 50+ full bore driver swings. To my dismay, the ball eventually split directly down the middle. I have had similar sessions with my ProV and nowhere near this result. For context, my ss is between 115-118mph with ball speeds from 165-170mph. By no means tour level but enough physical punishment on the ball to stress test it. I called callaway HQ and they were shocked and agreed to replace it. Not what I expected from a ‘premium’ ball. To be fair, on the course I love the performance. Not the longest ball, BUT the workability is really impressive. I have been able to draw the ball easily and the ball flight is relatively penetrating. Decent feel / spin with the wedges and very good feel with the putter. The verdict, this is a solid stable performing ball and that has questionable durability. Would I replace my ProV1 for this ball, not a chance. The Chromesoft will be my winter ball not my club play ball. I will test The Chromesoft x next based on my swing speed / ball speed.
Great review once again
Oh boy! I've been looking at the CS as a easier to get ball to replace the Mizuno RB Tour ... Does it make sense to try it when I'm struggling with too much spin, but still want the spin around the greens which is why I've not gone with the Bridgestone Tour BX ?
Hey guys, I’m a moderately low swing speed golfer and could really benefit from a ball with lower compression such as the chromesoft. Could you guys maybe run a comparison of this ball to the taylormade tour response or the titleist tour soft at Matt’s 70% swing speeds to address how the more average golfer may benefit from its softness?
I'm curious as to why Callaway wouldn't want their flagship ball competing with the actual number one ball in the world. Maybe that's the job of the CS X. But if the X ends up closer to the ProV1, would they then not have anything to compete with the ProV1X? Maybe the pros do.
I played those balls 2 years ago. After finding out they are not consistent and shorter than most...I'll stick to Snell MTB-X and Srixon XV.
Gist of it is, Chromesofts found in the woods go to the shagbag, not in play. I'll stick to my Snell MTBx
Gotta love the Snell. Been my gamer for the past 3 months. Don't see myself switching anytime soon.
Matty needs to hit these right-handed, see if you get similar results.
Recently played a sleeve of these. Was extremely disappointed in the amount of wear the balls picked up in comparison to what i was used to with Pro V1. One ball literally only lasted 4 holes.
I like the chrome soft x a lot honestly but for the value, I go for z star all day long
Hi! Great content as always! As a beginner I'm a little overwhelmed by the huge ball selection, and I'd appreciate some insight. TLDR: Any affordable(ish) balls that spin well, even at the cost of distance?
I play Pitch & Putt with holes with maximum distance of 120 m (130 yd), which I consistently overshoot with a 9i, so distance is definitely not an issue. Greens are also quite small in general, and most of the time my ball rolls all the way to the back even when I hit the fringe at the front. This makes me think I need a grippier ball. I've been playing Inesis Distance 100 because they're 6€ a dozen.
No brand will say "this ball trades off distance for spin", but I think that's exactly what I need. Is there such a thing?
The Kirkland ball from Costco spins well off of wedges and great price.
Try the Cur Grey ball. $20 a dozen. Look them up on a TXG video.
Thaks guys!
@r1l56me I've looked into the Kirkland before, and I couldn't find any reliable source here in Spain. All seemed to be scalpers selling them at Pro V1 prices. I appreciate the insight though! I'll try to look around a bit more in case I missed any source.
Update: I wish I could post a picture here. 149.43€ for 2 dozen Kirkland Signature on amazon Spain.
@Joe Garza cut seem UK-based, so maybe I can get a better deal on them. Thanks for the tip!
@@joanpuig0 Let me know if you get them. Pretty good ball for the price.
Great guys! Who's choosing the shot color for the last two videos? Can't be Ian with all that green 🤣🤣
😆 Foresight does it automatically for the ball variable I think
@@clubchampionmedia Ian😂 has to have a talk about that then
So Chrome Soft & ProV1 perform almost the same. Yardages for all clubs with in 2 yds other than the driver at 5 yds
What's more problematic for me is how a 55 degree wedge flies 105+ yards with appears to be minimal effort. 🤦♂️
Swinging out of my shoes I get my 56 to 75 yards. It just isn't fair
For me 105 yards is my 44 degree pitching wedge. I get 70 yards with my 55 degree sand wedge. Real world figures for this 70 year old.
@@bernardhilton3527 I’m 34, I’m just getting started. My pitching wedge is 100 yards with $350 irons from Amazon.
For the price of a chromesoft compared to the other big boys, I can’t understand why anyone would play it over a ProV or TP5. I find them on the course and put them in my junk ball pocket in my bag. This ball is the same price as other premiums and is by far the worst of the 3
In Europe :
-Chrome Soft are 49 euros (Chrome Soft Triple Track are 55 euros)
-TP5's are 58 euros (TP5 pix same price : 58 euros).
-Pro V1's are 59 euros.
So they are between 5 and 10 euros cheaper than the 2 other premium brands. It's not a lot, but for some people that's a psychological point.
In Canada (not sale prices):
ProV1's / AVX are about $65
Chrome Soft $64
TP5's $60
Bridgestone Tour B's $60
Srixon Z-Star's $50
Over the last year I've switched from TP5 to Tour B ... didn't feel a difference in performance, just loved how easy to spot/track the yellow Tour B's are, and like playing something different than my partners ...
Australia
TP5/X $73
ProV1 $70
Bridegstone Tour series $68
CS2020 $67
Z Star $50
Me, I'm buying up old stock of 2016 or 18 CS for $40. Used them for 4 years now, maybe not the very best for me but I know exactly how they'll perform and I love them around the green and off the putter. 95mph driver speed, 14 hcap, durable enough for me, lose them before I retire them, but can easily get 3 rounds out of one before it ends up in the practice bag as well.
Actually chrome soft is less
The CS is not the fit ball for Matt. He will do better in the CSX. Whereas I am human and will do better in the CS and with the V1x - those two would be my comparison. I'm surprised they did not test the V1 versus CSX with Matt
I wish I could see how early of a subscriber I was to you guys
Why didn't Matty switch to the Z-Star for softer feel when he was using the XV?
I really do think they hurt themselves with the name. If the average consumer is in the shop, they see 8 different balls with the word “soft” in the name, but the Chrome Soft costs twice as much as any of the other ones. Which are they most likely to buy?
Slow/moderate swing speed test of the Chromesoft ball?
Could you review a Srixon Lady ball? Hit by a Male maybe mid handicap?
I very much doubt a robot would be any better. Amazing consistency.
Could you test a premium lakeball against brand new on say pro v1.....alot of People I know using PEARL balls
Can you guys test the volvik s3and s4 love to see the results
Please review the Wilson Duo Professional.
Try the Bridgestones tour bxs ball it's so good
Not trying to be a smartass, but would one notice a difference between a 55 degree wedge and 56 degree, or would the player dependent dynamic loft prove that everyone’s swing is different and the relative wedge angle/degree does not matter....
You’re correct the dynamic loft is the determining factor, you would use static loft based on how much dynamic loft the player delivers
What’s up with the “dirty dog” up in the left hand corner of the foresight screen? 😂
I thought titleist just switched that the pro1x is the more spin ball and the Prov1 is the harder ball
Callaway golf balls got it and now it appears Srixon according to MyGolfSpy ....makes me wonder what expectation should the consumer have when buying "Premium" ball, should there be a defective guarantee? Or do we just continue to suck it up. "This is my ball. There are many like it, but this one is mine. ... I must fire my ball true. I must shoot straighter than the course who is trying to eat it up." #getballfit Thanks for video appreciated!
Its hard to argue why titliest has become the standard. The ability to pick a ball out of a pack and know that ball is exactly the same is the next ball should be the standard. Golf has too many factors, variances golf ball to golf ball that would dramatically effect performance are unacceptable
Interesting that both Snell balls recently tested spun way more off the 55 degree wedge than both of these balls.
That is the next test...Snell vs. CS...more speed off driver & more spin around green at 2/3 the cost..CDN $$
Have you guys tested the Cobra MIM Tour irons yet?
not yet, but soon
Love this channel and you guys..........But I would never buy a Callaway golf ball because of their blatant disregard for it's consumers who paid The High Premium Price for the previous iteration that was one of the worst balls in golf and they knew it but sold it any way.
Hello golf scientists!
Took me way too long to realize that PROV1 was the golf ball not some unknown golf term PROV 1.
Wish that I could get my hands on some
why can't you? they're literally ion every shop/store
The real question is why would you want them in the first place?
Dang it, I was late because of class.
TXG anywhere south of the mason dixon line is fine with me. I live in New Orleans. I know Matt and Gavin are partial to Florida. That would be a location I would travel to. Not sure what the saturation of club fitters is. Given the states demographic, probably pretty high. But then again. They’re not TXG.
Amen!! 🙏🏻
@@clubchampionmedia I am 6 hours from the closest next level fitting and I live in Little Rock
Matt: *hits any shot
Me: “..... f*** you Matty”
“We don’t have a robot” says Matty the robot.
Chromesoft vs AVX??
Wobble balls! I had one that corkscrewed through the flight. I cut it open to find the core incredibly off-centered. Callaway knew they were selling garbage for years, yet continued to sell them. Never again would callaway get my $. Pro V1, TP5, Tour BX, or Z star only. Callaway balls go into the lake when I find them.
Give us the chrome soft x!!!
Getting ready to snow? yuck. 83 in South Florida. I like the Chrome Soft, not as much as Snell or Pro V...
Love it
One RPM difference on the partial wedge 😲
I wonder how that ball would do with a 95-100 mph swing and an Autoflex shaft? Just saying.
Do the test right handed Matt and see how it compares
Cover thickness looked different from one side to the other in that cut ball
camera angle, where the cut was made, was done by hand, etc. Wouldn't read into it
3 people had just bought a couple of dozen.
After the last Chromesoft ball i'll have a really hard time trusting callaway with my money on balls. There too many companies big and small that make excellent balls without the quality concern so it will probably take a few years before before I consider giving them a chance.
It's almost AVX Gen2 like