@@basketcas3717 it actually is very loosely based on an Edgar Allen Poe story. It started out being an adaptation of The Light-House by Poe but became it’s own story once it was finished
This was one of the scariest parts of the movie, when it falls silent after having the noise of waves in the background the entire movie. Sent chills up my spine.
mine too! there's something about the shot at 2:29 - 2:42 that really encapsulates the horror of it all. It's almost like waking up estranged by your surroundings? I can't really put it into words, my english is also kinda bad~
@@cibo6174 I was just thinking of that...the hallway seems to go to Infinity due to the repeating doorways. The same uncanny valley of architecture that Stanley Kubrick displayed.
First time I watched this, the slow pan then zoom to the doorway had me frozen in fear - I genuinely couldn't look away but was scared shitless that something was gonna jump out at me. Incredible film.
Same. This scene had me on the brink. Scared me shitless. By the time, the scene where Winslow / Howard discovers the log came up, I had so much stress and tension built up that I had to stop the movie. Finished the movie the next day.
I'm of the mindset that both characters are just one person. And insanity has snapped his sense of time like a twig. There's a ton of hints to this scattered throughout the movie.
A very impactful scene indeed. As if judgement is being passed down for Tommy killing Winslow. The painting this is influenced by is also quite amazing. It's called "Hypnosis" I believe.
@@reemmeer5572 heres my take. ephriam winslow was already slipping before he hit the house with ol tommy boy wake. his guilt, his conscious or lack there of has already set him on a path of madness. early on wake tells of the wiki that ephriam replaced, how he thought the light held salvation. that plants the seed in ephs subconscious, and that seed is fed by myth and folklore that wake feeds him here and there. the resulting hallucinations and the like send him over the edge. in my thoughts thomas wake is a hard ass, but not insane, hes a fucker for sure and putting the screws to his new apprentice, perhaps not knowing itll push eph as far as it did in the end.. for sure in the last act of the movie thomas wake is slipping as well but not nearly enough as eph. lots of cool subtext in this one. there is a pdf of the screen play online that helped me decipher some of thomas wakes face paced sea captainesque rambles, helped me kinda suss things out. i could be totaly ass backwards though! but thats the good thing about movies of this sort. lots to interpret!
After he may or may not killed his colleague, he thought of smoking a cigarette. After he killed Ol’ Tom(Willem DaFoe), he smoked a cigarette. The details in this film is incredible.
Tyler Kaga-Davis Also, earlier in the film when Dafoe buries the axe into the table, they later rest underneath the same table, and the axe is very clearly above Dafoe’s head, almost looking like it’s buried in it. Pattinson’s character later kills Dafoe’s by burying that same axe in his head. Nice little bit of foreshadowing, or perhaps even implying that the events we see are not linear.
What an amazing range of emotion Pattinson goes through delivering this monologue. I especially enjoy his delivery on "But I...I didn't..I didn't...I did not."
"…And I had ‘im handy and helpless. Alone. Too far behind on the orders. And I… I wanted to do ‘im in. I admit I did. Seein’ the back of his head. One swipe of the spatula'd be all. Uh… It was… I… I didn’t. I didn’t… I did not. The day was long on that grind. I was lead-tired. I admit it. But I saw him slippin’, not me. I saw the knife on the floor. I stood and he slipped. He shouted to me, and I… I just stood there. “Squidward, you barnacle!” I just stood there, is all. Just… Just stood and watched ‘im git bled out by the blade. And all I could think when he was done was, “I… I could use a Krabby Patty.” That’s it. So, I packed up his kit and fixins, as if they was my own and… Spongebob Squarepants, well, now, he got a spiffy clean slate. And Squidward Tentacles, well, he don’t. No prospects. How else am I gonna find respectable work? Mr. Krabs! Mr. Krabs!" [echoing] "…Why’d y’spill yer beans, Mr. Squidward?…Why’d y’spill yer beans?…Why’d y’spill yer beans?…" [distant sound of Old Man Jenkins’s jalopy] [Squidward hallucinates Spongebob's body lying on the floor of the kitchen.] [Mr. Krabs suddenly appears behind him naked, eyes shaped like dollar signs. They begin glowing.]
I love that last shot. As if tom has been granted godlike status through the power of the light he protects, as he casts his judgement or whatever the hell hes doing to ephraim
Something that just hit me is that when you feel guilty for something you sometimes feel paranoid that other people around you somehow secretly know what you did. And seeing how the eyes are the windows to the soul and how young Thomas' soul is tarnished by guilt old Thomas can see right through him at least in this delusion.
Pattinson just keeps getting better and better with each film he's in. Reminds me of Heath Ledger's arc. Except Ledger sadly did not get to keep going. Pattinson is also incredibly good with accents. The subtlety and nuance he gives the upper Maine/new England dialect here is beyond impressive. Another note : Robert Eggers was very upfront that this film is steeped in Greek mythology. So, in context, Proteus is Dafoes character (or some representation) and Prometheus is Euphraim/Pattinsons character. Promethus's fate is the fate that befalls Euphraim at the end of the movie. Birds eat his innards every day for eternity. Messed up huh ?
elli The movie is a follow up to the original tale about a young man killing a lighthouse keeper and going mad. Willem plays that young man who has grown old but is still mad, hallucinating that his younger self (Robert) is him, as if it’s all happening again. That’s why both are named Thomas, Willem constantly warns Robert about stuff that he’ll end up doing such as Killing a seagul or the mermaid, Willem knows where the buried box is, or why the people don’t come. And the final most important showing of this is the obsession with the Light in the lighthouse, Willem is protective of it because he too has had the experience Robert has at the end, because he is Roberts character!! The whole film is basically the purgatory of the young man that goes mad after killing the old lighthouse keeper in the real life story. Confusing yes, great movie definitely 😂
@@3flavourscornetto237 it is a plausible theory that makes the most sense. The director said that he liked that people had guessed right and that theory is pretty spot on to everything that happens, but you mind be small minded and not understand movies like this go watch a superhero movie clown ;)
This particular scene and the ominious foghorn ever present in the background throughout the movie was really what set the chills in. I left the theatre genuinely horrified, and disturbed.
Maybe there is no theory. Maybe there is no deeper meaning. Maybe two dudes just went insane in a lighthouse. That's scarier and more impactful than anything you can come up with.
Fuckin' right. All these people claiming it is definitely purgatory drive me nuts. Just because a movie has supernatural elements doesn't mean everything isn't real.
scampoli25 bruh... i can type out a whole essay explaining why it’s purgatory... ive seen the movie 4 times, Read the script from start to finish, and Listened to the soundtrack. Its not hard to figure out something if you sit back and think. Sorry you have a basic interpretation of the movie
@@XDarkBrotherhoodHD exactly. People commenting here that there isnt a theory and its two people going mad....well yea. But Eggers himself explicitly stated Greek mythology is imbued in this film. The last scene of the movie where Pattinsons character is having his intestines picked at by gulls is a direct reference to the fate of Prometheus. There are several theories or ways to interpret this film for sure and I think thats the point.....but still...
I like the reference to the painting Hypnose. Interesting how they flipped it. In the painting the guy getting light shown in his face is naked, and Hypnos was clothed.
@@mr.fahrenheit007 my interpretation? Tom falls asleep as he tells his story and has nightmares that drive him further into his insanity. My interpretation of the film is that it's a movie about Pattinson going mad
Every scene in this movie is quotable and burned into my memory. Every line of dialogue is so engaging that you cant stop watching, even when what you are hearing and seeing is insane. Great movie
I remember physically bracing/squirming when the camera panned and zoomed on the door as the sound of the rain faded out but then instead of a jump scare we got "why'd you spill your beans tommy"
1:58 Thomas's near enough breaks the fourth wall. He's staring directly at the audience as if he's directly addressing them rather than Wake. It also works because the whole point is he's becoming more and more unhinged to the point of madness.
Imagine if Joaquin Phoenix played Howard and Daniel Day-Lewis played Wake. Joaquin might be too old now to play that role now but that'd be insane. If Daniel was younger then the roles could be reversed and it'd be equally as amazing.
That part for me is when Pattinson touches the light in the end with blood on his face. Really reminds me of the scene from There Will Be Blood where DDL has oil on his face and we get a close up on him right after the whole H.W incident.
@@SlipknotMachinehead Yeah, this would be another good one. But this scene here reminded me very much of the conversation between Plainview and "fake Henry". Pattinson looks very much like Day-Lewis here.
To me it seems like Winslow was tormented that he didn’t feel anything after his partner died. And it’s human of him to at least try to confess and own up to that scary fact. But in doing so, he confronts his past and therefore must face his judgment, from the light (aka whatever higher power is in this movie). So when he’s asked, “why’d ya spill yer beans?” It feels creepy because we now enter into the metaphysical chapter of the movie, where the facade of “lighthouse workers” is over….
Interpreting something intelligent is the best part of intelligent media! It opens up discourse and conversations that cause us to reflect. And that's honestly the best thing a piece of art can be.
@@Robb1977 my problem with these kind of artsy movies is that once you get to a certain level of vagueness, you can just put whatever the fuck you want in the film and it'll make people lose their minds theorizing over what it mean, even if it actually has no intended meaning. "yea lets just film some random crazy shit, the audience will eat it up and call it art either way!"
Yeah, dont care for these "same person" theories, I like to think that Defo's character is a priest of Neptune, and that Pattison character is shipwrecked man whos soul is on his way to afterlife, but ends up in hell after killing the priest and insulting his cooking skills
To me the whole thing is in Winslows mind or basically dream logic. He killed his colleague but refuses to admit his wrongdoing and essentially tries to escape the reality of his situation. The whole movie is like his escapism where he can just be a simple man who did nothing wrong and there's fantastical elements like the mermaid and a caricature of a seaman. The light is his salvation he seeks to rid himself of the guilt or responsibility of coming to terms with what he did which ultimately he can't.
??? This is the story of Prometheus (the greek myth I mean, not the movie from the Alien franchise). Pattison´s character even appears being eaten alive by birds, at the end...
@@gabrielp9646 It's an accurate comparison because of the many references to it throughout the film but it's definetly not the only interpretation of the film since there's so much going on. Plus only saying its a retelling of Prometheus story doesn't itself explain all the themes or answer all the questions in the film.
There are such things as author and directors intent as well as a narrative by the film itself. If you want to say "oh he's just mad" than Winslow was insane before he even got to the island we see him have nightmares and visions the first day on the island, not to mention we literally see Wake take the form of Triton with his tentacles and attraction to the light and LITERALLY HAVE WAKE EXPLAIN TO US THE SUPERNATURAL POWER OF THE LIGHT, HE LITERALLY SAYS MULTIPLE TIMES WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO WINSLOW. Even if you wanted to say it's because they're insane, why does every person that comes onto the island have these visions, attracted to the light AND we see their souls are trapped on the island as seagulls. "Souls of dead sailor picking away at your body until the sea takes you away" paraphrasing but that's literally what happens at the end of the movie. So get outta here with "iS nO pUrGay" because it's clearly more than just two people going insane. Unless in Winslows insanity he just decided to get naked outside and pass out for seagulls to eat his organs, he just imagined seeing what the light shows exactly as described by Wake, and even if you want to say it's all in his head why would he voluntarily give up the light and go outside to be killed we literally see him judged by the light and fall downstairs breaking his legs, how did he even walk outside?
I took this as after spilling his beans, the identity that Young hid behind was now dead, and the still shot shown afterwards was to portray his complete exposure to the light/keeper. He cannot hide anymore. He's an open book. Love this movie! So many ways to interpret.
Jesse Brennan not literally, light as in the truth of him murdering his coworker. Cats out of the bag after he spilled his beans, can’t hide from the light.
This film was a masterpiece. Now while i’m glad Parasite got all the accolades it did, this film for me was right up there for best picture. Even in more respects in terms of cinematography and production design. Would’ve loved to see this win cinematography at least. So frustrating that people had such a hard on for brad pitt this year (even though i did love his performance) as Defoe put in a career best. Both Pattinson and Defoe deserves nomination at least Such a master class in directing as well. Eggers has made two films and each are such incredible experiences.
Saw this movie for the first time last year and I can easily say it's my new favorite movie. It was so good after watching it for the first time, I started it all over!
@@salaciousjrick2530 At last a comment re: Kubrick by someone who knows what he's talking about. The Lighthouse doesn't resemble anything about Kubrick in visual style, and almost nothing thematically. People nowadays seem to think "Kubrickian" just means "A movie I don't understand" or something.
This was my favorite movie of the year and my favorite performances of the year. Pattinson and Dafoe were just incredible. Probably too weird for most people but man I loved it.
1:28 "I could use me a smoke." Those were the exact words he used after Wake asked him if this wasn't all just a psychotic dream his mind conjured up while he was freezing to death in Canada...
Wow. When he looked me dead in the eyes I was horrified. This movie is nothing short of disturbing and I love it. Multiple ways you can perceive what the story was about, could be as simple as two men going mad at a lighthouse in the ocean, all the way to the theory that this is purgatory and Tomas howard is being tested by the captain an angel of some sort
This scene seems to symbolize an awakening of the younger character turning the scene of him speaking outloud in reality into a scene of what can be seen as a vizualiztion into his inner thought.... In his mind is where he sees himself on the lighthouse and a mystical Thomas hypnotizing him... This is imo when he realizes he has been played the whole time.... Fucking incredible movie. Havent gotten this excited for breakdowns in film is so long.
Pattinson was able to break the "Twighlight" mold he was in which makes me happy. I bet a lot of actors would be good in more experimental films such as this, they're just not willing to take a risk.
So I know that it's kind of the point of art to be up to your interpretation, but what's interesting about the movie to me is that I can see multiple references and allusions to what it might be about. Right after the movie finished I tried to figure out what the light really was or represented. Prometheus' quest for the fire and the captain talking about St. Elmo's Fire brought me to that. I gues the director also mentioned something about Prometheus and Proteus. On the other side of things, the sea mythos and superstition was so heavy and to me the lighthouse and the sea seemed to be nature itself working on tommy's irreverence for the legends and superstitions of the old captain. After all, the wind changes after he kills the seagull which brings that storm. Then you have the angle of it merely being a psychological thriller, the old captain says himself that Tommy is so confused he might be simply imagining all of this as some grand hallucination. On the other hand, perhaps the captain is driving Tommy to this madness. You could totally determine nearly every weird scene as from the point of view of a disturbed individual, or you can really believe he really did find a siren beached on the rocks and there are supernatural forces at work. Anyway, I think there are weaknesses to a film left this incredibly open, but it was still far more interesting and engaging than most crap out there. It feels like if Eraserhead by avid Lynch and The Old Man And The Sea by Hemmingway had a disturbed child called The Lighthouse.
Don’t know about anyone else but not only was this my favorite film of 2019 it may be one of the most interesting, intriguing and mysterious films I’ve ever seen. I found myself awake at night for days after watching it just thinking about the story, the themes and the metaphors.
Funnily enough, Mermaids in sea myth are actually considered sea demons. So I guess the Mermaid scenes in this movie could be considered a demon tempting Winslow with some bad shit.
One of the influences of the movie was a real life event in 1801 of two Welsh lighthouse keepers that were stranded because of a storm and both of them were named Thomas
In my opinion, this scene confirms my theory about the film, which is that Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson are both the same character. The movie is really about a Timberman in the Hudson Bay who is piss drunk and is going mad after he could have prevented his friend/colleague from tragically passing away in front of his own eyes. Thomas the Timberman cannot handle this reality; thus, he fantasizes himself as a Wickie in New England named Ephraim Winslow to escape this harsh reality. Willem Dafoe is Robert Pattinson's old identity, while Robert Pattinson is a new personality struggling to break free. The movie is a power struggle over two identities. In the end, Pattinson kills his old identity believing this will give him a new light and a new purpose in life, but he is stuck in hell in the process, as his subconscious picks away at the reminisce of his old self.
@@vasvas8914 I think that's why Thomas Wake told Ephraim literally "you're still a logger", to me it seemed to indicate manipulation and gaslighting and it's why it was put in the movie so explicitly.
So what’s up with all the references to Greek mythology? What about the sexual frustration of beating off to a mermaid doll? A decent theory but too simplistic IMO.
Every time I watch the movie I get the feeling that it wasn't even filmed in color. I have a feeling they added all the bright psychedelic colors in post.
I see anxiety laden introspection -- looking at yourself through others. This creates a feeling of looking at several versions of yourself. I am not who I think I am. I am not who you think I am. I am who I think you think I am. Maybe this is a trace of the simulation being self-replicating.
The way the background sound fades to silence and the camera slowly pans around when he sees Wake isn't there creeps me the fuck up. It's so hard to find (sort of) horror movies that excel at creating dread and anxiety instead of depending on loud, shocking action. Masterfully done scene and a masterpiece of a movie.
Seems to me Pattinson is a younger version of Dafoe, although it’s hard to say if it’s told from the perspective of Dafoe seeing a younger version of his once self or Pattinson imagining himself many years from then, either way a internal strife between the two.
The setting changes-- he comes across the body on the deck of the lighthouse, he turns and then they are on the rocks of the island as DaFoe's lights shine in his face.
This movie feels like a short story you'd read in English class and have to write an essay about
Yeah like some Edgar Allen Poe shit
@@basketcas3717 it actually is very loosely based on an Edgar Allen Poe story. It started out being an adaptation of The Light-House by Poe but became it’s own story once it was finished
The director Robert Eggers filmed a short film of the tell-tale heart, Edgar Allan Poe short story
Except good.
Like some Most Dangerous Game type of stuff lol
This was one of the scariest parts of the movie, when it falls silent after having the noise of waves in the background the entire movie. Sent chills up my spine.
Yeah that part really freaked me out
mine too! there's something about the shot at 2:29 - 2:42 that really encapsulates the horror of it all. It's almost like waking up estranged by your surroundings? I can't really put it into words, my english is also kinda bad~
@@cibo6174 I was just thinking of that...the hallway seems to go to Infinity due to the repeating doorways. The same uncanny valley of architecture that Stanley Kubrick displayed.
It’s even scarier when you hear Tom’s echo.
@@cibo6174 shits hilarious idk what you mean scary
“Why’d ya spill yer beans?!”
Hahaha
First time I watched this, the slow pan then zoom to the doorway had me frozen in fear - I genuinely couldn't look away but was scared shitless that something was gonna jump out at me. Incredible film.
Same. This scene had me on the brink. Scared me shitless. By the time, the scene where Winslow / Howard discovers the log came up, I had so much stress and tension built up that I had to stop the movie. Finished the movie the next day.
I love how Winslow (Tom) seems like hes talking to the captain, but it actually turns out hes talking to no one. That freaked me out!
Nik Naython that’s when you know you are lost in delirium.
I'm of the mindset that both characters are just one person.
And insanity has snapped his sense of time like a twig.
There's a ton of hints to this scattered throughout the movie.
I think they are the same person in a way also lol
Notice how he looks dead at the camera when he's done talking. He was talking to us. The viewer.
@@bene233 yeah, he was trying to convince us that he didn't killed winslow.
That last shot is absolutely god-tier
A very impactful scene indeed. As if judgement is being passed down for Tommy killing Winslow. The painting this is influenced by is also quite amazing. It's called "Hypnosis" I believe.
I think it’s also supposed to show how he’s always being watched by him no matter where he is on the island.
I seen ya sparring with a gull
Sam Hindson I’m still tryna under stand what was goin I seen this movie 10 times still don’t understand
@@reemmeer5572 heres my take. ephriam winslow was already slipping before he hit the house with ol tommy boy wake. his guilt, his conscious or lack there of has already set him on a path of madness. early on wake tells of the wiki that ephriam replaced, how he thought the light held salvation. that plants the seed in ephs subconscious, and that seed is fed by myth and folklore that wake feeds him here and there. the resulting hallucinations and the like send him over the edge. in my thoughts thomas wake is a hard ass, but not insane, hes a fucker for sure and putting the screws to his new apprentice, perhaps not knowing itll push eph as far as it did in the end.. for sure in the last act of the movie thomas wake is slipping as well but not nearly enough as eph. lots of cool subtext in this one. there is a pdf of the screen play online that helped me decipher some of thomas wakes face paced sea captainesque rambles, helped me kinda suss things out. i could be totaly ass backwards though! but thats the good thing about movies of this sort. lots to interpret!
The fact that this film didn't get an Oscar nom for best actor, director or best original script proves that the Oscars are a sham.
The movie had amazing sound design, perfect acting, god tier cinematography yet still.. oof
Only nomination for cinematography, but no chances to beat 1917.
I think Joker was always gonna take best actor, but I agree with everything else.
The movie took waaayyyyy too long to get into anything, by the time it got interesting it was very easy to find yourself having become bored imo.
The best movie of the year by far. The VVitch was also snubbed. Eggers should sue
After he may or may not killed his colleague, he thought of smoking a cigarette. After he killed Ol’ Tom(Willem DaFoe), he smoked a cigarette. The details in this film is incredible.
whoa!!!
lol what
Tyler Kaga-Davis Also, earlier in the film when Dafoe buries the axe into the table, they later rest underneath the same table, and the axe is very clearly above Dafoe’s head, almost looking like it’s buried in it. Pattinson’s character later kills Dafoe’s by burying that same axe in his head. Nice little bit of foreshadowing, or perhaps even implying that the events we see are not linear.
Brett Anthony lmao that’s what you get dumbass
Brett Anthony Well then why’re you watching this scene? The film isn’t long, it’s not like you’d need to take a break halfway through.
What an amazing range of emotion Pattinson goes through delivering this monologue. I especially enjoy his delivery on "But I...I didn't..I didn't...I did not."
Wayne Bryan Exactly, he doesn’t even believe his lies anymore.
I did not hit her, it's not true. It's bullshit. I did not. Oh hi Mark.
@@jonaderjona5805 That is the first thing I thought about when I heard the line. I really hope it is a conscious reference to the Room.
@@scampoli25 It MUST be one with the energy it's delivered with. Couldn't contain myself from muttering "Oh hi mark" in cinema.
@@jonaderjona5805 I have watched just about every interview for this movie in hopes someone would bring it up, no mention thus far.
why'd y'spill yer beans, Mr Squidward?
"…And I had ‘im handy and helpless. Alone. Too far behind on the orders. And I… I wanted to do ‘im in. I admit I did. Seein’ the back of his head. One swipe of the spatula'd be all. Uh… It was… I… I didn’t. I didn’t… I did not. The day was long on that grind. I was lead-tired. I admit it. But I saw him slippin’, not me. I saw the knife on the floor. I stood and he slipped. He shouted to me, and I… I just stood there. “Squidward, you barnacle!” I just stood there, is all. Just… Just stood and watched ‘im git bled out by the blade. And all I could think when he was done was, “I… I could use a Krabby Patty.” That’s it. So, I packed up his kit and fixins, as if they was my own and… Spongebob Squarepants, well, now, he got a spiffy clean slate. And Squidward Tentacles, well, he don’t. No prospects. How else am I gonna find respectable work? Mr. Krabs! Mr. Krabs!"
[echoing] "…Why’d y’spill yer beans, Mr. Squidward?…Why’d y’spill yer beans?…Why’d y’spill yer beans?…"
[distant sound of Old Man Jenkins’s jalopy]
[Squidward hallucinates Spongebob's body lying on the floor of the kitchen.]
[Mr. Krabs suddenly appears behind him naked, eyes shaped like dollar signs. They begin glowing.]
Lmao, that’s gold
@@georgeofhamilton That's fucking hilarious.
Ha Ha!!!
George Hamilton why’s ya Sqeek yur boots, Squidward
I love that last shot. As if tom has been granted godlike status through the power of the light he protects, as he casts his judgement or whatever the hell hes doing to ephraim
im not sure but i thought i saw that in another light house movie just the other day..!, an older movie
@@dancingtrout6719 It's from a painting called The hypnosis by Sasha Schneider
He knows his secret, he's now totally exposed, Wake has all the power and Winslow has none.
Something that just hit me is that when you feel guilty for something you sometimes feel paranoid that other people around you somehow secretly know what you did. And seeing how the eyes are the windows to the soul and how young Thomas' soul is tarnished by guilt old Thomas can see right through him at least in this delusion.
Pattinson just keeps getting better and better with each film he's in. Reminds me of Heath Ledger's arc. Except Ledger sadly did not get to keep going. Pattinson is also incredibly good with accents. The subtlety and nuance he gives the upper Maine/new England dialect here is beyond impressive.
Another note : Robert Eggers was very upfront that this film is steeped in Greek mythology. So, in context, Proteus is Dafoes character (or some representation) and Prometheus is Euphraim/Pattinsons character. Promethus's fate is the fate that befalls Euphraim at the end of the movie. Birds eat his innards every day for eternity. Messed up huh ?
Now I’m kinda eager to see how he does Batman when the new show comes out
Pattinson sounds exactly like the the guy who played Joshua Chamberlain in Gettysburg
Overcoming his vampire role has made him a legend.
This really is the perfect explanation for watching the movie. Its gruesome
That's cool and all but I really like the freedom that people have to come up with their own interpretations as well...
This shit freaked me out when I saw it bc the first time I saw it I had no idea what the hell was happening, only that it unsettled me
I still have no idea what the fuck is happening
elli The movie is a follow up to the original tale about a young man killing a lighthouse keeper and going mad. Willem plays that young man who has grown old but is still mad, hallucinating that his younger self (Robert) is him, as if it’s all happening again. That’s why both are named Thomas, Willem constantly warns Robert about stuff that he’ll end up doing such as Killing a seagul or the mermaid, Willem knows where the buried box is, or why the people don’t come. And the final most important showing of this is the obsession with the Light in the lighthouse, Willem is protective of it because he too has had the experience Robert has at the end, because he is Roberts character!! The whole film is basically the purgatory of the young man that goes mad after killing the old lighthouse keeper in the real life story. Confusing yes, great movie definitely 😂
Eetswa that is simply not true at all
@@3flavourscornetto237 it is a plausible theory that makes the most sense. The director said that he liked that people had guessed right and that theory is pretty spot on to everything that happens, but you mind be small minded and not understand movies like this go watch a superhero movie clown ;)
Eetswa after 5 minutes of research I proved you false what you said is just a theory that holds no weight
“I offered you *beans* and you *spilled them* “
-William Dafoe, The Lighthouse 2019
You're out Norman, your lobster's wack
Out am I?
@@bozotheclown1142 now that’s a good one
yer fond of me beans
@@lucasskinner3805 no but I enjoy yer cookin!
@@lucasskinner3805 especially your crab
This particular scene and the ominious foghorn ever present in the background throughout the movie was really what set the chills in. I left the theatre genuinely horrified, and disturbed.
DaybreakFilm Haha ya left.... bad luck to left a theater bird...
I watched it Halloween Night in 2019.
Yeah very unsettled after leaving cinema.
Love the delivery of “Tom you dog!” You get the sense he replays those words a lot in his head.
Maybe there is no theory. Maybe there is no deeper meaning. Maybe two dudes just went insane in a lighthouse. That's scarier and more impactful than anything you can come up with.
I watched this without subtitles and I have a feeling my experience was less impactful because of it :(
Fuckin' right. All these people claiming it is definitely purgatory drive me nuts. Just because a movie has supernatural elements doesn't mean everything isn't real.
scampoli25 bruh... i can type out a whole essay explaining why it’s purgatory... ive seen the movie 4 times, Read the script from start to finish, and Listened to the soundtrack. Its not hard to figure out something if you sit back and think. Sorry you have a basic interpretation of the movie
Lewis Davidson that would be the case had the Prometheus story not been apart of it. Theres a lot more than meets the eye with The Lighthouse
@@XDarkBrotherhoodHD exactly. People commenting here that there isnt a theory and its two people going mad....well yea. But Eggers himself explicitly stated Greek mythology is imbued in this film. The last scene of the movie where Pattinsons character is having his intestines picked at by gulls is a direct reference to the fate of Prometheus. There are several theories or ways to interpret this film for sure and I think thats the point.....but still...
I like the reference to the painting Hypnose. Interesting how they flipped it. In the painting the guy getting light shown in his face is naked, and Hypnos was clothed.
so, what does this scene mean?
A. H. A no idea. Probably has something to do with the myth of Hypnos.
@@evans8029 I like the art in this movie, has some Bergman dark vibes....but I hate the fact that I couldn't understand it XD
@@mr.fahrenheit007 my interpretation? Tom falls asleep as he tells his story and has nightmares that drive him further into his insanity. My interpretation of the film is that it's a movie about Pattinson going mad
@@MichaelFreckelton yeah that makes sense..maybe he was alone on the island all that time!
Every scene in this movie is quotable and burned into my memory. Every line of dialogue is so engaging that you cant stop watching, even when what you are hearing and seeing is insane. Great movie
I remember physically bracing/squirming when the camera panned and zoomed on the door as the sound of the rain faded out but then instead of a jump scare we got "why'd you spill your beans tommy"
Which ended up being even scarier
1:58 Thomas's near enough breaks the fourth wall. He's staring directly at the audience as if he's directly addressing them rather than Wake. It also works because the whole point is he's becoming more and more unhinged to the point of madness.
That’s what I was thinking
It was a perfect re-imagining of the Burns v Homer avalanche episode of The Simpsons.
Young Tom was planning on sailing old Tom's corpse to safety.
Stupid sexy Wicke
I really think they’re gonna do a segment about this movie in the next Treehouse of Horror.
Best comment ever
So this should have been nominated for best adapted screenplay?
This is the scene where Pattinson reminds me the most of Daniel Day-Lewis in There will be blood
Imagine if Joaquin Phoenix played Howard and Daniel Day-Lewis played Wake. Joaquin might be too old now to play that role now but that'd be insane. If Daniel was younger then the roles could be reversed and it'd be equally as amazing.
That part for me is when Pattinson touches the light in the end with blood on his face. Really reminds me of the scene from There Will Be Blood where DDL has oil on his face and we get a close up on him right after the whole H.W incident.
@@SlipknotMachinehead Yeah, this would be another good one. But this scene here reminded me very much of the conversation between Plainview and "fake Henry". Pattinson looks very much like Day-Lewis here.
Yes, I thought he might be trying to channel that in the look and voice
0:38 I did not hit her I did not oh hi Mark
Anyway, how is your lighthouse?
i was about to comment this
Something to point out: people tend to be a lot of formal in their speech when lying, so him emphasizing "I did not!" suggests that he did it
@@WadeEdaw but... so Tommy did hit her?
.....Tommy Howard or Tommy Wiseau..?
To me it seems like Winslow was tormented that he didn’t feel anything after his partner died. And it’s human of him to at least try to confess and own up to that scary fact. But in doing so, he confronts his past and therefore must face his judgment, from the light (aka whatever higher power is in this movie). So when he’s asked, “why’d ya spill yer beans?” It feels creepy because we now enter into the metaphysical chapter of the movie, where the facade of “lighthouse workers” is over….
I’m two years late but I just wanna say I think you hit the nail on the head with that description
Me: *watching Cars 2 in the theater*
The black teen next to me: 2:23
God-tier meme right here
Underrated as the movie
Is that some racist shit or what?
MyloRen not everything is racist man
I actually don't get it, can someone explain
One of the best films of the decade
of all time
C G agreed
I was telling a friend pretty much the same thing. That I can’t recall a better movie I’ve seen in a decade. A Masterpiece.
Fans : So which of the fan theories are the most accurate
Maker of the film : Yes
Interpreting something intelligent is the best part of intelligent media! It opens up discourse and conversations that cause us to reflect.
And that's honestly the best thing a piece of art can be.
@@Robb1977 my problem with these kind of artsy movies is that once you get to a certain level of vagueness, you can just put whatever the fuck you want in the film and it'll make people lose their minds theorizing over what it mean, even if it actually has no intended meaning. "yea lets just film some random crazy shit, the audience will eat it up and call it art either way!"
@@trollzilla yeah, you have a point too
@@CBRN-115 고마워요
Perfect as it should be
Yeah, dont care for these "same person" theories, I like to think that Defo's character is a priest of Neptune, and that Pattison character is shipwrecked man whos soul is on his way to afterlife, but ends up in hell after killing the priest and insulting his cooking skills
huh. cool idea!
To me the whole thing is in Winslows mind or basically dream logic. He killed his colleague but refuses to admit his wrongdoing and essentially tries to escape the reality of his situation. The whole movie is like his escapism where he can just be a simple man who did nothing wrong and there's fantastical elements like the mermaid and a caricature of a seaman. The light is his salvation he seeks to rid himself of the guilt or responsibility of coming to terms with what he did which ultimately he can't.
??? This is the story of Prometheus (the greek myth I mean, not the movie from the Alien franchise). Pattison´s character even appears being eaten alive by birds, at the end...
@@gabrielp9646 It's an accurate comparison because of the many references to it throughout the film but it's definetly not the only interpretation of the film since there's so much going on. Plus only saying its a retelling of Prometheus story doesn't itself explain all the themes or answer all the questions in the film.
There are such things as author and directors intent as well as a narrative by the film itself. If you want to say "oh he's just mad" than Winslow was insane before he even got to the island we see him have nightmares and visions the first day on the island, not to mention we literally see Wake take the form of Triton with his tentacles and attraction to the light and LITERALLY HAVE WAKE EXPLAIN TO US THE SUPERNATURAL POWER OF THE LIGHT, HE LITERALLY SAYS MULTIPLE TIMES WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO WINSLOW. Even if you wanted to say it's because they're insane, why does every person that comes onto the island have these visions, attracted to the light AND we see their souls are trapped on the island as seagulls. "Souls of dead sailor picking away at your body until the sea takes you away" paraphrasing but that's literally what happens at the end of the movie. So get outta here with "iS nO pUrGay" because it's clearly more than just two people going insane. Unless in Winslows insanity he just decided to get naked outside and pass out for seagulls to eat his organs, he just imagined seeing what the light shows exactly as described by Wake, and even if you want to say it's all in his head why would he voluntarily give up the light and go outside to be killed we literally see him judged by the light and fall downstairs breaking his legs, how did he even walk outside?
I took this as after spilling his beans, the identity that Young hid behind was now dead, and the still shot shown afterwards was to portray his complete exposure to the light/keeper. He cannot hide anymore. He's an open book. Love this movie! So many ways to interpret.
This scene is so good
Play spiderman again bro, we miss you 😔
@@bwilliam6287 I will return
@@tobeymaguire9053 I will follow you till the end of days my lord 🙏
This exchange...
Once he spilled his beans, he couldn’t hide from the light anymore hence dafoes lighthouse light coming from his eyes. Really want that chest tattoo.
Go get it!
Big Rock no one gives a shit about your freestyle
Big Rock who hurt you lol, and gonna agree with comment above, your guitar playing is garbage.
Brandon Escalon 💀
Jesse Brennan not literally, light as in the truth of him murdering his coworker. Cats out of the bag after he spilled his beans, can’t hide from the light.
This film was a masterpiece. Now while i’m glad Parasite got all the accolades it did, this film for me was right up there for best picture. Even in more respects in terms of cinematography and production design. Would’ve loved to see this win cinematography at least. So frustrating that people had such a hard on for brad pitt this year (even though i did love his performance) as Defoe put in a career best. Both Pattinson and Defoe deserves nomination at least Such a master class in directing as well. Eggers has made two films and each are such incredible experiences.
You can count on the Academy being absolute dunderheads. Jake Gyllenhaal’s snubbed performance in Nightcrawler is proof.
Saw this movie for the first time last year and I can easily say it's my new favorite movie. It was so good after watching it for the first time, I started it all over!
The most Kubrick someone who wasn't Kubrick ever Kubrick'd
idklol I’d give that to Yorgos Lanthimos. Especially if you’ve seen The Killing of a Sacred Deer.
Yorgos Lanthimos and Ari Aster are the closest comparisons I’ve seen to Kubrick.
Underrated. Comment.
@@salaciousjrick2530 At last a comment re: Kubrick by someone who knows what he's talking about. The Lighthouse doesn't resemble anything about Kubrick in visual style, and almost nothing thematically. People nowadays seem to think "Kubrickian" just means "A movie I don't understand" or something.
@@salaciousjrick2530 I make that same comparison here: ruclips.net/video/uO2H7VsHvlI/видео.html
His performance reminds me of Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood. Total transformation.
This was my favorite movie of the year and my favorite performances of the year. Pattinson and Dafoe were just incredible. Probably too weird for most people but man I loved it.
1:28
"I could use me a smoke."
Those were the exact words he used after Wake asked him if this wasn't all just a psychotic dream his mind conjured up while he was freezing to death in Canada...
Saw this movie in theaters and felt like I was going mad alongside them. This scene absolutely wakes you the hell out of that trance
This scene scared me in so many weired ways that I don't know.. awesome movie
Amazing film. The best and creepier part of this scene is how Tom is nowhere to be found . He could be anywhere..
I gotta see this. I like movies that have an original feel to them and this one certainly has that.
It’s an instant classic
As far as movies that aren't about anything and have no plot go, this one was fine-ish, I guess?
3:27 when you get caught for cheating on your exam.
What a jokes tommy!
3:32 GOOD GRIEF, HES NAKED!! - Plankton
0:51 damn that unnerving pan towards the shadow behind him, like Wake was right there listening to every detail of what he did
God damn what a masterpiece this is.
One of my favorite scenes in this film.
Every time I'm cooking beans, I just have to say it
Hark!
“I could use me a smoke.”
Wow. When he looked me dead in the eyes I was horrified. This movie is nothing short of disturbing and I love it. Multiple ways you can perceive what the story was about, could be as simple as two men going mad at a lighthouse in the ocean, all the way to the theory that this is purgatory and Tomas howard is being tested by the captain an angel of some sort
Alright, have it your way. I like your beans.
I feel like this is about coming to terms with your inner demons and eventually they will consume you if left unchecked
shut up!
Andrew Aronson big mad lol
@@kalenwilliams5210 I said shut up!
@@andrewaronson3364 You sound like a child lol
@@jacobhasty6821 you're a fucking pissant. you're a fucking choir boy compared to me
This scene seems to symbolize an awakening of the younger character turning the scene of him speaking outloud in reality into a scene of what can be seen as a vizualiztion into his inner thought.... In his mind is where he sees himself on the lighthouse and a mystical Thomas hypnotizing him... This is imo when he realizes he has been played the whole time.... Fucking incredible movie. Havent gotten this excited for breakdowns in film is so long.
Pete Mageet explain please !
Pattinson was able to break the "Twighlight" mold he was in which makes me happy. I bet a lot of actors would be good in more experimental films such as this, they're just not willing to take a risk.
It's awesome that it's still possible to make fantastic movies.
Damn this movie is so suspenseful in the best way possible
So I know that it's kind of the point of art to be up to your interpretation, but what's interesting about the movie to me is that I can see multiple references and allusions to what it might be about.
Right after the movie finished I tried to figure out what the light really was or represented. Prometheus' quest for the fire and the captain talking about St. Elmo's Fire brought me to that. I gues the director also mentioned something about Prometheus and Proteus.
On the other side of things, the sea mythos and superstition was so heavy and to me the lighthouse and the sea seemed to be nature itself working on tommy's irreverence for the legends and superstitions of the old captain. After all, the wind changes after he kills the seagull which brings that storm.
Then you have the angle of it merely being a psychological thriller, the old captain says himself that Tommy is so confused he might be simply imagining all of this as some grand hallucination. On the other hand, perhaps the captain is driving Tommy to this madness. You could totally determine nearly every weird scene as from the point of view of a disturbed individual, or you can really believe he really did find a siren beached on the rocks and there are supernatural forces at work.
Anyway, I think there are weaknesses to a film left this incredibly open, but it was still far more interesting and engaging than most crap out there. It feels like if Eraserhead by avid Lynch and The Old Man And The Sea by Hemmingway had a disturbed child called The Lighthouse.
Don’t know about anyone else but not only was this my favorite film of 2019 it may be one of the most interesting, intriguing and mysterious films I’ve ever seen. I found myself awake at night for days after watching it just thinking about the story, the themes and the metaphors.
I watched it 2 years ago and it's still my favourite
I brought Beans to the Theatre for this one.
you watched cars 2?
Why'd y'spill yer beans, Tommy?
Did you spill them?
Why'd you squeak yer boots?
3:30 will be talked about 50 years from now
Funnily enough, Mermaids in sea myth are actually considered sea demons.
So I guess the Mermaid scenes in this movie could be considered a demon tempting Winslow with some bad shit.
You could say they are seamons
@@ithinktallyhallisprettygood Seamen seed their manly semen upon Simone the seamon
Attention all mariners, this wickie just split his beans in the lighthouse
I’m so obsessed with his accent here
2:43 just realized the stairs are shaped like the inside of a shell, great cinematography.
When the Green Goblin chases Edward Cullen around with an Axe, you know shit's hardcore.
Nah, I saw a great breakdown of it. It takes from mythology, and breaks new ground in cinematography. One of the most amazing films you’ve ever seen.
3:27 When girlfriend caught you looking at a friend's photos
“Why’d y’spill yer beans? YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?!?!?!”
3:27 catching one of the boys donating to a chicks onlyfans be like
just tripped on the stairs while holding a bowl of baked beans and just had to watch this video
thomas unleashes his beam attack
I believe Pattinson will be a great Batman. There I said it
I just hope that he gets a great director and screenwriter, I don't want to see a bvs 2.0
@@idkidc7513 your wish is granted. MATT REEVES!
Two years later, can confirm. Pat Bat is where it's at.
The last shot of this scene is like a renaissance painting
It is based off of one: “Hypnosis” by Sascha Schneider.
@@Alex.ActingandVO German symbolism, early 20th century. So not Renaissance at all.
"I'm something of a Lighthouse myself"
The fade into silence was so fucking eerie
Watching any scene from this movie makes me have to watch the whole thing
I litteraly didn't understand the film , i will see it again and see
If Willem DeFou was a catholic priest he’d say this at confession: 2:22 2:39 2:48
DaFoe is a strange actor , some of his work I find unwatchable , but then he dose work like this , and is incredible.
I wonder if it's a coincidence that both main characters' names are Thomas.
They're not
@@diogoalpendre9684 they are both named Thomas.
One of the influences of the movie was a real life event in 1801 of two Welsh lighthouse keepers that were stranded because of a storm and both of them were named Thomas
Vlad Tepes The Smalls lighthouse tragedy.
@Dead Man Not quite sure what happened to them. I think one of them died and the other went mad.
Eggers managed to replace DiCaprio/Winslet by Dafoe/Pattinson in this movie. And so, Cameron. Masterpiece.
Does anyone else find this scene remarkably sad? I mean it's also hilarious, but still, very sad.
This movie is just one huge mindfuck
In my opinion, this scene confirms my theory about the film, which is that Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson are both the same character.
The movie is really about a Timberman in the Hudson Bay who is piss drunk and is going mad after he could have prevented his friend/colleague from tragically passing away in front of his own eyes. Thomas the Timberman cannot handle this reality; thus, he fantasizes himself as a Wickie in New England named Ephraim Winslow to escape this harsh reality.
Willem Dafoe is Robert Pattinson's old identity, while Robert Pattinson is a new personality struggling to break free. The movie is a power struggle over two identities. In the end, Pattinson kills his old identity believing this will give him a new light and a new purpose in life, but he is stuck in hell in the process, as his subconscious picks away at the reminisce of his old self.
would be a pretty lazy cliché imo, no offense
Yeah, "two main heroes being the same person" is overused as hell
@@vasvas8914 I think that's why Thomas Wake told Ephraim literally "you're still a logger", to me it seemed to indicate manipulation and gaslighting and it's why it was put in the movie so explicitly.
So what’s up with all the references to Greek mythology? What about the sexual frustration of beating off to a mermaid doll? A decent theory but too simplistic IMO.
@@TheRedRaven_ Very overdone, too. I think it's a lot of things in one, but not "main character is just dreaming all of it"
This confirms my theory that both characters are named thomas
It’s not a theory. Both characters are named Thomas lol
@@aquaticlibrary woosh
Every time I watch the movie I get the feeling that it wasn't even filmed in color. I have a feeling they added all the bright psychedelic colors in post.
ATDstudios yeah it wasn’t filmed in color. It was filmed on a 35 mm black and white film camera
@@dustydeemer8347 whoosh is over used and stupid word
I see anxiety laden introspection -- looking at yourself through others. This creates a feeling of looking at several versions of yourself. I am not who I think I am. I am not who you think I am. I am who I think you think I am. Maybe this is a trace of the simulation being self-replicating.
He;s thinking about thos Beans
I have never laughed more in a movie theater than I did watching this film.
0:26 That's bulls--! I did not hit him! I did nawt!
Oh, hi Thomas
1:57 okay. He DEFINITELY broke the 4th wall!
And they didn’t get nominated...
It's a damn crime.
who gives a fuck. is your love of this movie really dependent on some elitist organization picking your movie? Fuck em.
The way the background sound fades to silence and the camera slowly pans around when he sees Wake isn't there creeps me the fuck up. It's so hard to find (sort of) horror movies that excel at creating dread and anxiety instead of depending on loud, shocking action. Masterfully done scene and a masterpiece of a movie.
3:27 "Back to formula ?"
3:28 when you catch your cat clawing the couch
Seems to me Pattinson is a younger version of Dafoe, although it’s hard to say if it’s told from the perspective of Dafoe seeing a younger version of his once self or Pattinson imagining himself many years from then, either way a internal strife between the two.
Starting to believe that also.
How long 'ave we been on this Rock?
The fact that the second was in the lobster pot is truly insane
David Lynch could only wish he had written this!
The setting changes-- he comes across the body on the deck of the lighthouse, he turns and then they are on the rocks of the island as DaFoe's lights shine in his face.
3:32 Thanks for the wallpaper
man this film was so damn good