Great Video! Go Navy! The WW2 Heavy Cruiser USS Indianapolis CA 35 set a speed record from San Francisco to Pearl Harbor in 74 1/2 hours at an ave. speed of 29 knots which still stands to this day. In WW2 - The U.S. Navy heavy cruiser USS Chicago (CA-29) was under tow at five knots by USS Louisville (CA-28) on the morning of 30 January 1943. The damaged cruiser had been torpedoed by Japanese aircraft on the previous night. In 1931 during USS Louisville CA 28 Shakedown Cruise the 107,000 SHP Louisville made almost 32 Knots with only 6 of her 8 boilers kicked in. God Bless the sailors of the USS Indianapolis & our service men and women - past & present!
General Quarters General Quarters General Quarters. All hands man your Battle stations.proceed up and forward on the starboard side down and after on the port side. Now General Quarters. Reason for General Quarters, engineering casualty in Main Control.."
I was just talking to my friends about the Tiger Cruise I went on and randomly looked up the Nitze to see if there was any videos I could use to show them the ship. Lo and behold not only do I find the video of the race I was describing to them but I can see myself in this footage! Thank you so much for uploading this, I've lost all my footage and pictures from the trip.
Nel 1971 ero imbarcato sul ct fante ex uss walker.anche il fante qualche volta e stato lanciato a 36 nodi.sembrava un siluro.un saluto a tutti gli amici di allora.
@@kevinhaywood1268 I remember seeing a group of German sailors in Norfolk at the EM Club, they each had their own pitcher of beer, no glasses! 🇺🇲🇩🇪🇺🇲🇩🇪🇺🇲🇩🇪
I was on the helo deck during this video. I don’t remember who won, but I do remember that I got back into the hanger bay before the water splashed over the deck during all back full.
Yea and about 28knts with a following sea. All depended on seawater injection temp. Got to about 30 plus a smidge when steaming down the Chilean intercoastal waterway. Of course with battle burners and someone shooting at me I could get you 32 at least. MMCS
@@kenbadoian2476 Thanks for your service, I made it to fc3, and got out after desert storm , I had enough of getting treated crummy, great friends though,
We as Gas turbine will beat them out of the hole and over short distances. Give the carrier a longer race the cgs ddgs will be shaking and running hard. The carrier will still disappear over the horizon. Like JFK did after running over the Belknap. The whole battle group ran for the horizon. The JFK left them all behind.
Very true carrier might start slow but when she gets to speed it will walk all of them. I was on a CG and DDG took the win but Carrier was right behind not to far, she was going fast. Long distance sprints Carrier has it. CG and DDG are for short run fast agility.
NICE JOB @Paige Adams - what would of been real impressive is having a Super Carrier run between the two Destroyers, yep, the Carrier would of won that race :-) I would like to mention to the Audience, watch the US Flag on the other ship, I believe the Mason (you can tell when they reverse. The flag is left to right and then right to left. AWESOME WORK PAIGE :-) Bobby Estey USS Constellation CV64
Where's the rooster tail? USS Mahan DDG42 could make rooster tails going 33 knots with all 4 boilers on line. CDR R.O. Crawshaw said"This is better than a vitamin pill!" After the Marine barracks in Beirut were destroyed, the mighty Mahan was detailed to escort USS Iowa(?) to the Lebanese coast for President Reagan's response. I wasn't onboard at the time but the CO made frequent visits to Main Control jumping around like a hobgoblin on a fistful of bennies demanding more speed because the battleship kept saying on the VHF radio,"If you cannot keep up, you WILL be left behind."
@@exa0710 the nuclear Cruiser South Carolina was famous for the first ship to Guam winds race. Occasionally the carrier would do that they don't like to wind up to high speeds because it beats hell out of the airplanes
Removie all the safties on those gas turbines and let roll. I remeber those days on my Gearing class DD. I like do do but it put one hell of a strain on engines and pumps.
The Royal Australian Navy used to hold annual races. Look up HMAS Brisbane Wedgie Cup. Arace between an Oliver Hazard Perry FFG and a Modified Charles F Adams DDG. JET turbine v super steam boilers
Last time I saw the Nitze, well she couldn't go anywhere.. because she was still under construction at Bath Iron Works as we (the USS Momsen DDG-92) sailed away for our commissioning.
I would have liked to have pitted my ship, the USS Leonard F. Mason (DD-852) against these two. In its time, the Leonard F. Mason was the fastest destroyer in the Pacific fleet. Definitely faster than 31 knots. And, yes, we raced 'em back then, too (1972)!
Burkes are faster than 31 knots, especially the Flight I and II. Ive done trials on a Flt I, II and IIA, under normal sea conditions 32 knots can be attained with 75 to 80 percent of power. The thing DD-852 would not be able to do compared to a Burke is to speed through a sea state 3. Its all in the beam. What we do on a Tiger Cruise is never going to be max capability.
Great Story! Thank you for your service. The WW2 Heavy Cruiser USS Indianapolis CA 35 set a speed record from San Francisco to Pearl Harbor in 74 1/2 hours at an ave. speed of 29 knots which still stands to this day. God Bless the sailors of the USS Indianapolis & our servicemen - past & present! My dad was on the USS Louisville CA 28 from 1943-46 and passed in 2017 at age 92. He witnessed 51 sailors and Rear Admiral Theodore Chandler buried at sea do to (3) kamikaze.
A Ticonderoga cruiser vs. an Arleigh Burke? It's hard to call that one. A Tico has a slimmer length to width at the waterline and a faster Hull Speed. But, an AB does have about 22,000 more hp and is a foot shorter in draft. Has anyone seen them race? Personally, while in the CIC, I saw the Anzio move surprisingly quick while only at Flank 2.
Actually a good race is a Supply class OILER vs anything short of Carrier. Short race 1to 2 miles cg or ddg wins 10 or more forget it. 40,000 Ltons at 40 knots. Wake Rooster tail is higher than the 02lvl level
Yes twin shaft( 4 lm2500 powered) In fact the port propeller is the spare from the AMERICA. During construction trials a yard tug removed 6 inches from the blades as it's bow was sliced up.
Plank owner so I know what she'll do. What does it say is the top speed of a carrier? If that's all they'll do how did the enterprise cave in its own bow during acceptance trails and have to return to port going backwards.
i would have died to see a nimitz class just casually roll into the frame and overtake the destroyers and disappear from view. lol it's a little known fact to outsiders but carriers are one of the fastest surface combatants out there with their highway speeds.
Marjus Plaku I was on a spruance class destroyer and we use to kill carriers... Carriers normally get up to about 30-32 knots.. the Spruance class destroyer got above 35 knots easy
@Ivan Matz Too bad they can't do anything else! Then they have an engineering casualty and are cabled to the dock for months. LCS is the biggest piece of junk ever commissioned in the U.S. Navy.
I was on a Spruance Class, and we raced the Carl Vinson once. We beat them on take-off. I mean, smoked them. The LM2500's were roaring and pouring black smoke, but the 2 Westinghouse reactors and 4 screws turning 250,000 shp eventually proved too much, and they caught up. The thing is the other ships have to be at least close to being able to keep up with the carrier to be life guard during the carrier's flight ops to pick anyone up that might go over the side. I hated doing that as much as anything we did. Especially at night.
Nope, the CHENG isn't giving her all she's got, battle over ride where you do go to absolute maximum power on the engines requires the CO's authorization and you WILL destroy the engines doing so!
You know how it is; every exercise is one that puts another 'X' in a box, whether you're in aviation, subs or surface Navy. Approved and budgeted way in advance.
I love hearing the force draft blowers kick in with their low rumble and the ship starts speeding up and goes way past the "rated" flank speed. For me, that was on the USS Essex LHD-2. We didn't have 1200 psi, but still damn cool at 28 knots!
Surface ships aren't trying to hide. Plus they wouldn't be able to hide very well if they did try. Too much machinery radiating noise into the water, none of it sound isolated.
A Tico cruiser? Nonsense. I have served on both Burkes and a Tico. The Burke has nearly 25,000 more horsepower and no matter the flight they are all lighter than the Ticos. If you put the uprated LM2500s in the Tico it would rip the ship apart.
I don't know if a Burke can do that, but the old Iowas could. My understanding is that, as heavy as they are (bigger than the Ticos!), thirty one knots is pretty good for them.
Great Video! Go Navy!
The WW2 Heavy Cruiser USS Indianapolis CA 35 set a speed record from San Francisco to Pearl Harbor in 74 1/2 hours at an ave. speed of
29 knots which still stands to this day. In WW2 - The U.S. Navy heavy cruiser USS Chicago (CA-29) was under tow at five knots by USS Louisville (CA-28) on the morning of 30 January 1943. The damaged cruiser had been torpedoed by Japanese aircraft on the previous night. In 1931 during USS Louisville CA 28 Shakedown Cruise the 107,000 SHP Louisville made almost 32 Knots with only 6 of her 8 boilers kicked in.
God Bless the sailors of the USS Indianapolis & our service men and women - past & present!
Salute CV62 red shirt
Former, USS CHICAGO (CA29 / CG11) shipmate here, thank you for this info.
@@chrisjeffries2322 Thank you for your service! Take care!
ENGINEERING CASUALTY ENGINEERING CASUALTY.....
I was on the Mason for that. First deployment. We won and you know it. CS2 Lewis representing.
This the deployment y’all knocked all the Houthi missiles out the sky and then tomahawked the fuck out of them?
General Quarters General Quarters General Quarters. All hands man your Battle stations.proceed up and forward on the starboard side down and after on the port side.
Now General Quarters.
Reason for General Quarters, engineering casualty in Main Control.."
I was just talking to my friends about the Tiger Cruise I went on and randomly looked up the Nitze to see if there was any videos I could use to show them the ship. Lo and behold not only do I find the video of the race I was describing to them but I can see myself in this footage! Thank you so much for uploading this, I've lost all my footage and pictures from the trip.
Glad I was able to assist! Amazing what you can find on RUclips, isn't it?
I was on Mason for this race. We did indeed win it, but it was extremely close and probably would have tied if not for the sonar dome on the Nitze.
Nel 1971 ero imbarcato sul ct fante ex uss walker.anche il fante qualche volta e stato lanciato a 36 nodi.sembrava un siluro.un saluto a tutti gli amici di allora.
God bless the USA and a big, big thank you from Germany for all your support over the many decades! Hugs from Berlin, Germany
I had the privilege of meeting a few of your sailors when my ship pulled in Halifax, Nova Scotia in 1997. They cracked me up. Yall are good people.
@@kevinhaywood1268
I remember seeing a group of German sailors in Norfolk at the EM Club, they each had their own pitcher of beer, no glasses!
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WHO CARES GREAT RACE GLAD TO SEE THERE ARE STILL SOME TRADITIONS IN THE REAL NAVY. I REMEMBER A FRIEND PRECOM THE MASON. LOOKS GREAT
how many of us old tin can sailors was waiting for the civies to get wet lol god i miss that
I was on the helo deck during this video. I don’t remember who won, but I do remember that I got back into the hanger bay before the water splashed over the deck during all back full.
On demand raw power of the robust and reliable LM2500. Love it!
Love this, I was on a Knox class, lot of fun looking back , there's alot of ocean out there made 2 West pacs
Yea and about 28knts with a following sea. All depended on seawater injection temp. Got to about 30 plus a smidge when steaming down the Chilean intercoastal waterway. Of course with battle burners and someone shooting at me I could get you 32 at least. MMCS
@@kenbadoian2476 Thanks for your service, I made it to fc3, and got out after desert storm , I had enough of getting treated crummy, great friends though,
actually the mason won...i'm a GSM and those were my engines :)
We as Gas turbine will beat them out of the hole and over short distances. Give the carrier a longer race the cgs ddgs will be shaking and running hard. The carrier will still disappear over the horizon. Like JFK did after running over the Belknap. The whole battle group ran for the horizon. The JFK left them all behind.
Very true carrier might start slow but when she gets to speed it will walk all of them. I was on a CG and DDG took the win but Carrier was right behind not to far, she was going fast. Long distance sprints Carrier has it. CG and DDG are for short run fast agility.
NICE JOB @Paige Adams - what would of been real impressive is having a Super Carrier run between the two Destroyers, yep, the Carrier would of won that race :-) I would like to mention to the Audience, watch the US Flag on the other ship, I believe the Mason (you can tell when they reverse. The flag is left to right and then right to left. AWESOME WORK PAIGE :-) Bobby Estey USS Constellation CV64
Thanks, Bobby! Hard to believe this was nearly 12 years ago.
Give the birdfarm enough room & they're hellaciously fast.
Tin cans gotta move fast every time.
USS Nimitz (CVN 68) AIMD and Weapons department as a AO1, Served twice on ship during my 20 years 2 months career. July 06 1983 to September 30 2003
Where's the rooster tail?
USS Mahan DDG42 could make rooster tails going 33 knots with all 4 boilers on line.
CDR R.O. Crawshaw said"This is better than a vitamin pill!"
After the Marine barracks in Beirut were destroyed, the mighty Mahan was detailed to escort USS Iowa(?) to the Lebanese coast for President Reagan's response.
I wasn't onboard at the time but the CO made frequent visits to Main Control jumping around like a hobgoblin on a fistful of bennies demanding more speed because the battleship kept saying on the VHF radio,"If you cannot keep up, you WILL be left behind."
The battleship COULD leave any modern destroyer behind too! (they hit over 35 knots during sea trials)!
This is definitely a cool vid! Thanks Paige Adams,
This is about where Nemitz finally goes by and send you a flashing light messages says first guy to California wins!
Bro what
@@exa0710 the nuclear Cruiser South Carolina was famous for the first ship to Guam winds race. Occasionally the carrier would do that they don't like to wind up to high speeds because it beats hell out of the airplanes
"Twenty to one I break the sonuvabitch this time."
"Gimme $500 on the Bandit!"
Removie all the safties on those gas turbines and let roll. I remeber those days on my Gearing class DD. I like do do but it put one hell of a strain on engines and pumps.
Yep and costly when something breaks making that much power!
I love the US NAVY. I get sea sick like no one else so sea life would be a living hell for me. I almost died going whale watching
The Royal Australian Navy used to hold annual races.
Look up
HMAS Brisbane Wedgie Cup. Arace between an Oliver Hazard Perry FFG and a Modified Charles F Adams DDG. JET turbine v super steam boilers
The Nitze underway now .......this ship is well taken care of . Tip Top Shape !!!!
Ship got better brakes than my car
I feature the USS Nitze in my first novel Attack on Nantucket ...
I loved being throttleman during those types of things. Especially since I was on a steam powered ship.
Now imagine going faster than that ........underwater.......
Last time I saw the Nitze, well she couldn't go anywhere.. because she was still under construction at Bath Iron Works as we (the USS Momsen DDG-92) sailed away for our commissioning.
I would have liked to have pitted my ship, the USS Leonard F. Mason (DD-852) against these two. In its time, the Leonard F. Mason was the fastest destroyer in the Pacific fleet. Definitely faster than 31 knots. And, yes, we raced 'em back then, too (1972)!
Burkes are faster than 31 knots, especially the Flight I and II. Ive done trials on a Flt I, II and IIA, under normal sea conditions 32 knots can be attained with 75 to 80 percent of power. The thing DD-852 would not be able to do compared to a Burke is to speed through a sea state 3. Its all in the beam.
What we do on a Tiger Cruise is never going to be max capability.
Plankowner on the USS Momsen DDG 92 (I watched the USS Nitze DDG 94 being built) and they are definitely faster than 31 knots. (Not much, but faster)
Great Story! Thank you for your service. The WW2 Heavy Cruiser USS Indianapolis CA 35 set a speed record from San Francisco to Pearl Harbor in 74 1/2 hours at an ave. speed of
29 knots which still stands to this day. God Bless the sailors of the USS Indianapolis & our servicemen - past & present! My dad was on the USS Louisville CA 28 from 1943-46 and passed in 2017 at age 92. He witnessed 51 sailors and Rear Admiral Theodore Chandler buried at sea do to (3) kamikaze.
I can hear dangerzone in the back ground
Alright! Rules of the race, first one to have an engineering casualty losing a GTM or GTG loses, extra points if the shafts stop spinning as well 😂😭
A Ticonderoga cruiser vs. an Arleigh Burke? It's hard to call that one. A Tico has a slimmer length to width at the waterline and a faster Hull Speed. But, an AB does have about 22,000 more hp and is a foot shorter in draft. Has anyone seen them race? Personally, while in the CIC, I saw the Anzio move surprisingly quick while only at Flank 2.
Actually a good race is a Supply class OILER vs anything short of Carrier. Short race 1to 2 miles cg or ddg wins 10 or more forget it. 40,000 Ltons at 40 knots. Wake Rooster tail is higher than the 02lvl level
@@jamespollock2500 An oiler? Seriously? Do they even have more than one shaft?
Yes twin shaft( 4 lm2500 powered)
In fact the port propeller is the spare from the AMERICA. During construction trials a yard tug removed 6 inches from the blades as it's bow was sliced up.
@@jamespollock2500 Sounds fishy. Their max speeds are only listed at around 20kts on anything I can find.
Plank owner so I know what she'll do. What does it say is the top speed of a carrier? If that's all they'll do how did the enterprise cave in its own bow during acceptance trails and have to return to port going backwards.
i would have died to see a nimitz class just casually roll into the frame and overtake the destroyers and disappear from view. lol it's a little known fact to outsiders but carriers are one of the fastest surface combatants out there with their highway speeds.
Littoral Combat Ships are faster than carriers nowadays. They're still - reportedly - close though.
Marjus Plaku I was on a spruance class destroyer and we use to kill carriers... Carriers normally get up to about 30-32 knots.. the Spruance class destroyer got above 35 knots easy
This here Canuck must repeat the official approved USN response to "How fast ?"
- 30 knots (+)
@Ivan Matz Too bad they can't do anything else! Then they have an engineering casualty and are cabled to the dock for months. LCS is the biggest piece of junk ever commissioned in the U.S. Navy.
I was on a Spruance Class, and we raced the Carl Vinson once. We beat them on take-off. I mean, smoked them. The LM2500's were roaring and pouring black smoke, but the 2 Westinghouse reactors and 4 screws turning 250,000 shp eventually proved too much, and they caught up. The thing is the other ships have to be at least close to being able to keep up with the carrier to be life guard during the carrier's flight ops to pick anyone up that might go over the side. I hated doing that as much as anything we did. Especially at night.
Fantastic!!!!!!! We need MORE vids like this one, with even BIGGER ships! Aircraft carriers vs cruise ships hahahaha.
Mud puppy here, looks like fun!!!
You can hear the cavitation.
both CO's: WE NEED MORE SPEED
Engineering LCPO: IVE GIVIN ER AW SHES GAWT CAPTN
Nope, the CHENG isn't giving her all she's got, battle over ride where you do go to absolute maximum power on the engines requires the CO's authorization and you WILL destroy the engines doing so!
Imagine this race comming at you as the enemy!?? Nooooo thanks!!!! Brown pants day for sure!
Air Force here. GO NAVY!!
You sure about that? Well, at any rate, it was awfully darn close!
When did the mason start guarding cruise ships in the atlantic off the florida coast?
Haze gray and underway....God I miss the ocean. DDG-6 1984-1987
NITZE did, in fact. Well, I suppose it's not wasting money anymore than anything else is in the Navy. Gotta test those engines somehow.
You know how it is; every exercise is one that puts another 'X' in a box, whether you're in aviation, subs or surface Navy. Approved and budgeted way in advance.
I was on this ship dec04-mar08
Next we need an iowa vs a Nimitz
So, no more IOWA's around.
The only thing missing in this video is the song bad to the bone
looking at the video , Nitze was ahead of USS Mason ......
I know someone on this ship :) :) :)
From another old tincan sailor "there's nothing like good ole American firepower!
Surely it can do more than 31 knots?
go USA I love this our ships ain't junk like russia
ENGINEERING CASUALTY ENGINEERING CASUALTY ENGINEERING CASUALTY….
HOT BEARING NR 2A GTM.
My sweaty ass running down to Main 2 🏃🏻
It was more fun with 1200 psi steam! But nice video.
DDG-6
I love hearing the force draft blowers kick in with their low rumble and the ship starts speeding up and goes way past the "rated" flank speed. For me, that was on the USS Essex LHD-2. We didn't have 1200 psi, but still damn cool at 28 knots!
Would this make them "Thirty One Knot Burkes"? ;)
On a more serious note, does the Navy still do "Cowboys and Russians"?
Same engine same hull same weight. But different engineer maintenance.
A little surprised they are doing that with civvies aboard.
Why? Nothing special about this maneuver. Every Destroyer/Frigate ship around the world can do this.
Looked like a bunch of wet tigers at the end!
Mason won the race im on the mason we won by a small margin
very good 👍👍👍
Nitze won i was on the bridge not in the engine room
What is the terrible noise?
The Burke still loses out to the SpruCan/Tico in speed, maneuverability, and ability to stop and reverse direction.
This noice.... its like a lose pipe. Hope you have done something about it by now... -.-
That must be a very big sound for sub to notice them.
Surface ships aren't trying to hide. Plus they wouldn't be able to hide very well if they did try. Too much machinery radiating noise into the water, none of it sound isolated.
@@killman369547 You are right, but then the ones who hide, the subs, can avoid them. But then again, this is in peace time.
Boogie boogie boogie--lets go racing boys
Any aircraft carrier would leave them both in the dust.
Future Economy
a cruiser still would waste both with the same exact power setup
theyre destroyers -_-
A Tico cruiser? Nonsense. I have served on both Burkes and a Tico. The Burke has nearly 25,000 more horsepower and no matter the flight they are all lighter than the Ticos. If you put the uprated LM2500s in the Tico it would rip the ship apart.
Next ,nimitz vs grald r ford
40 mph plus
I was expecting 35 knots
I don't know if a Burke can do that, but the old Iowas could. My understanding is that, as heavy as they are (bigger than the Ticos!), thirty one knots is pretty good for them.
doubt it
I finally figured how to tell females from ev'body else aboard: White shoes.
Get them up on the plane...
Flank = 31 knots; ah no.
No? What are you talking about? 31 kts is flank speed.
They are fibbing bit the fastest ship inthe navy is a carrier it just classified
Is this considered wasting money ? Who won anyways ? I hope NITZE DID ...Hewwhaww.
What a waste, she could have been pulling the crew on water skis.
What a great use of tax payers money and burning massive amounts of fuel!
Over 30knots... As minesweeper sailor i can only be envious of fast travel
Mason won the race im on the mason we won by a small margin
Who cares