The West Wing, Season 4, Episode 21. First Time Watching reaction

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024

Комментарии • 36

  • @markmadden84
    @markmadden84 Месяц назад +6

    Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I love that Leo was so willing to stick by Hoynes given that he helped set him up with the AA meetings back in season one.

    • @duritz7871
      @duritz7871 Месяц назад +3

      You're not. Leo is clearly trying to find a way out of this for Hoynes

  • @johnobrien7562
    @johnobrien7562 Месяц назад +9

    Because it will get lost in the events, Josh was offering to let Donna work with CJ's team on the leak, to which she responded "You're saying I can do this?"
    John Hoynes is... either a complicated character or an inconsistent one. He started out as the villain in S1. He seemed overwhelmed by events in S2, while still starting the MS breadcrumbs. He was a hero in S3's Stirred, where he takes his name of a bill just because it will help people. Now we find out he's a philanderer who has spilled secrets.
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    Spoilers but not really spoilers...
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    If you are familiar with Tim Matheson's career, the replacement to Hoynes is kinda funny.

  • @moondom
    @moondom Месяц назад +2

    I love a lot of episodes, but this one really is a favorite! I love seeing Matt Perry in a more dramatic but funny role like this, and the scene with CJ on the phone while he silently points out all the evidence he's gathered gives me excited chills every time.

  • @kevincachia1977
    @kevincachia1977 Месяц назад +1

    Nice to hear your positive comments on Matt Perry's performance. I thought his delivery as Joe Quincy was exceptional, he wasn't just a Friends/Fools Rush In comic performer. He's quite good in Studio 60 as well.

  • @izzonj
    @izzonj Месяц назад +9

    The letter goes to the Secretary of State, not the Speaker of the House, as is said by Jed Bartlet in the opening scene.

  • @debbier7376
    @debbier7376 Месяц назад +5

    Agnew's resignation had nothing to do with Watergate.
    From Copilot:
    "Spiro T. Agnew, the 39th vice president of the United States, resigned in 1973. His downfall began when he was investigated for accusations of extortion, bribery, and income-tax violations related to his tenure as governor of Maryland. Faced with federal indictments, Agnew pleaded no contest to a single felony charge of tax evasion and resigned from office. His resignation marked the first time a vice president had stepped down under duress."

    • @TheAlmaward
      @TheAlmaward Месяц назад +2

      Rachel Maddow has a great podcast about Agnew's resignation, called Bagman.

  • @gregrtodd
    @gregrtodd Месяц назад +12

    Strap in guys. This season has a great group of episodes to bring it to a close.
    Hope you enjoy it as much as I did when it first aired.

  • @sandrajewitt6050
    @sandrajewitt6050 Месяц назад +8

    I love how you guys are both so insightful about what's coming up on the show, but how you will still be blown away by the ending of this season. You'll see, though, that this ending is surprising but not out of left field. Some other great guest appearances are coming up. Enjoy.

  • @kschneyer
    @kschneyer Месяц назад +2

    "I hope Matthew Perry wasn't just a one-off last time; I hope we get to see him again." Hee hee hee!

  • @gchild1286
    @gchild1286 Месяц назад +1

    Great episode, great acting, great suspense.
    Lot of those “Sorkinisms” being used, like the initial conversation being Joe and CJ.
    Toby and Will. Toby and Charlie. Both have that classic Toby is too frustrated to finish a sentence 😂.
    Everybody is great!

  • @garymussell6543
    @garymussell6543 Месяц назад +1

    10 years after the series ended, Gen Petraeus did the same thing, spilling classified secrets to his mistress. Amazing how fact follows fiction sometimes.

  • @katrina484
    @katrina484 Месяц назад +4

    If you miss Aaron Sorkin, you could always react to The Newsroom. It was never as popular as The West Wing but in my opinion it is just as good.

    • @sammydavisvideovault8302
      @sammydavisvideovault8302 Месяц назад +2

      Or Sports Night

    • @katrina484
      @katrina484 Месяц назад

      @@sammydavisvideovault8302 I haven't seen this. I've tried but it wasn't available anywhere in my country.

    • @ElizabethBudlong
      @ElizabethBudlong Месяц назад +1

      Or Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip

  • @andrewbrown4362
    @andrewbrown4362 Месяц назад +1

    Fun fact/Hollywood casting nonsense story: The "22 year old intern" who Joe treats with skepticism was four years older than Matthew Perry.

  • @Entroper
    @Entroper Месяц назад

    "Have an idea!" is one of my go-to phrases at work. :D Or when my wife doesn't know what she wants for dinner.

  • @sterrettcollins7332
    @sterrettcollins7332 Месяц назад +1

    Before 1967, there was no mechanism for filling a vacancy in the vice presidency, and the office was vacant for a cumulative total of 35 years. Since the 25th amendment, it has occurred twice, both times involving Gerald Ford, who replaced Spiro Agnew as VP, then succeeded Nixon, then appointed Nelson Rockefeller. Unlike other appointments, it has to be confirmed by both houses.

  • @Slateking
    @Slateking Месяц назад +4

    I love this episode, I just had two issues with it.
    1. They could have foreshadowed it in some of the previous episodes. They had plenty of space for it to appear.
    2. Introducing Matthew Perry’s character for this could have been better. I would have preferred an established character to run this down. The reason for that will come later

  • @ElizabethBudlong
    @ElizabethBudlong Месяц назад

    I really need to watch you guys on patreon cause I wanna see your reactions to the bird in the window! 😂 Once I can afford it I promise I will!! 😅

  • @joan783
    @joan783 Месяц назад +1

    This, along with some other episodes, really sets up the season finale and the opening of the next season…you've got to go all the way back to season 1...

  • @jemal999
    @jemal999 Месяц назад

    12:30 Hmm, wonder if that'll come up at all...

  • @LeighMet
    @LeighMet Месяц назад

    It is a big letter.

  • @user-lh3jo3di8s
    @user-lh3jo3di8s Месяц назад

    "And hats off to Sorkin for not writing the same character twice. There's been many shows and movies that are guilty of that were an actor can't return so they make a new character and then all of a sudden it's just the same character beats again."
    Not to be disagreeable, but The West Wing is kind of guilty of that too. The conflict centered around the hiring of Joe Quincy (Why would a Republican want to serve in the democratic white house? Because they have a duty?) is similar to Ainsly Hayes and Lionel Tribby and Oliver Babbish both enjoy extoling the histories of various artifacts they have on hand.

  • @ivy13872
    @ivy13872 Месяц назад

    Please watch studio 60 if you'd like to continue with Sorkin!!