...And I thought Rival's 'Meet the Range' video was the best!...You guys nailed it with this one! The Skywalker dude was so cool! Thank you SRAM once again for providing the best and most intuitive gear(s) on the market!
Looks sweet, nice work guys, can't wait to see what new things you've done to RED. Any chance of a 11-33 cassette? Let be real, not many people use the 10 cog. Take it away and add a 16 cog.
@@SRAM I get 10 cog is for the race guys and down hill sprinters going 70kph+ but a more casual cassette for the weekend group riders would be nice. Even a 11-32 would be nice as the 32 would offer a little extra speed up the local climb.
@@JFomo if you pick the right chainrings for you, a 10T is absolutely used by more casual riders too. I use mine all the time. Check out our article on X-Range gearing on sram.com
@@SRAM All good, it was just some feedback and suggestion from a Sram customer. You must be a world tour level rider if you're using the 10 cog all the time. I shall work on my downhill sprints.
You are 100% correct here. SRAM is never going to back down on the 10 though. Small rings and cogs are SRAM’s jam. And the reply from SRAM suggesting to use a smaller range cassette really tells you all you need to know - SRAM doesn’t understand. I want close shifts in the gears I use the most. I need a decent big gear but not a TDF sprint winning gear. I need to ride up 10+ mile climbs so I need a 1:1 or close. Campagnolo still makes the cassette you want. 11-12-13-14-15-16-17-19-22-25-29-34 Oh well. SRAM and Shimano make gearing for pros only now.
I've been trying it for a couple of months, slow, noisy.. few but some front chain drops happen.. uhm... heavy and power meter attached to the chainrings... we can do better
@@SRAM Wicked Pissah Cool 😎. I literally have 3 rides on the previous generation shifter seen new ones like them but slim none if I can swap with my local bike shop with out losing money saved up for a while to get what I have now. Thanks for replying 🙂
I want a fully wireless groupo, but I'm really concerned about the chainring replacements once they wear. No matter what discount is provided, I can't imagine a combo crank and power meter costing what I currently pay for Dura Ace chain rings. Even the option without a PM is probably going to cost a lot more. A lot of us aren't Pro's. We don't get new kit and free maintenance once our parts wear out, we have to fix or pay for those repairs ourselves.
My question is how many miles do the chain rings last? And to be fair I personally have never changed the front chainrings on my bikes even after years of ownership but I'm not pro.
@@mechy2k2000 People are saying these chainrings can last 4-5 years with moderate use. I think everyone's mileage may vary. Even with my shotty maintenance practices and never cleaning my road bike, I changed my inner chainrings once in like 4 years. The only downside is if once we wear out the inner ring, we have to replace them both.
@@SRAM I know, and I intend to buy one in the next year. It would be really nice if some R&D went into them, just enough so I can feel a little more confident that 5-40 years down the road I would be able to buy replacement parts, knowing that the current mechanical shifting sets you're selling aren't just old stock you're clearing out. Wide gearing would be cool, too: my dream bike would have a 10-36 12sp cassette with 50/34 chainrings. I don't think that's technically possible using only stock parts but it should be.
@@SRAM You know what they're really asking for is a refresh to 12s for the mech group, since the Force/Red ones haven't seen an update since, 2013 or 2014? A decade!?
@@SRAM Slightly off topic, but are you guys ever going to make a compact eagle cassette for mountain bike groupsets? I really want axs, but I have no need for the huge 10-50/52 cassette.
I want my power meter to be integrated into my chainrings so I have to replace it if my chainrings ever get damaged, wear out, or I just want to change the number of teeth. Said no one, ever. You guys just don't get it.
We're very confident that our AXS chainring durability far surpasses anything we've made before, enough years of riding that we would not consider it disposable at all. When it is finally worn, we do have a recycling program to take care of the electronics.
@@SRAM Well, I understand that the company feels that way but you just turned a $50 component into a $400 component. I'm sure plenty of people will do it but it's going in the wrong direction for me and probably many others that would have considered upgrading.
@@SRAM So, enough years of riding huh? How many years of 15'000km/year? Since you are so confident, do you offer a minimum distance for your crankset?
Hydraulic disc only with these new controls! But you can certainly pair any existing AXS rim brake controls with new Force AXS derailleurs if you wish.
@@SRAM They're actually in stock somewhere? I haven't seen a right shifter in over a 14 months since trying to order one through my local SRAM retailer.
@@ryanbaker313 first of all that rarely happens so it’s not even worth mentioning - thousands upon thousands are/were sold. Second they were replaced by warranty with no out of pocket costs to the consumer third You can replace the chainrings all day long to any size you want and/or when they are worn just change one of them.
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Those buttons are a game changer for adaptive bikes.
Yeah seriously I'd love to glue one on the side of my helmet and be like "Spock here" touching my comm link and shifting the gears!
May the Force be with you!
I definitely need this to install my new bike then the force always be with me💪💪💪
I'm diggin that black chain ring, I have Force so all I need is the crank set, 172.5 please.
Snazzy vid. Well done guys. 👏🏼
am i gonna get the force when i get this
i'll defend sram and this group with my life.
let's hope it doesn't come to that
Still no option to control bike computer pages with your AXS wireless blips?
...And I thought Rival's 'Meet the Range' video was the best!...You guys nailed it with this one! The Skywalker dude was so cool!
Thank you SRAM once again for providing the best and most intuitive gear(s) on the market!
Force AXS is pretty schweet. Almost as schweet as dat mullet! :)
love it!
Cool
Will my bike be equipped with the new force if i order it right now?
It could be! bikefinder.sram.com/
When is the red ?
Looks sweet, nice work guys, can't wait to see what new things you've done to RED.
Any chance of a 11-33 cassette? Let be real, not many people use the 10 cog. Take it away and add a 16 cog.
lots of people use the 10t cog! If you don't, consider a smaller chainring paired to a 10-28 or 10-30 cassette.
@@SRAM I get 10 cog is for the race guys and down hill sprinters going 70kph+ but a more casual cassette for the weekend group riders would be nice. Even a 11-32 would be nice as the 32 would offer a little extra speed up the local climb.
@@JFomo if you pick the right chainrings for you, a 10T is absolutely used by more casual riders too. I use mine all the time. Check out our article on X-Range gearing on sram.com
@@SRAM All good, it was just some feedback and suggestion from a Sram customer. You must be a world tour level rider if you're using the 10 cog all the time. I shall work on my downhill sprints.
You are 100% correct here. SRAM is never going to back down on the 10 though. Small rings and cogs are SRAM’s jam.
And the reply from SRAM suggesting to use a smaller range cassette really tells you all you need to know - SRAM doesn’t understand.
I want close shifts in the gears I use the most. I need a decent big gear but not a TDF sprint winning gear. I need to ride up 10+ mile climbs so I need a 1:1 or close.
Campagnolo still makes the cassette you want. 11-12-13-14-15-16-17-19-22-25-29-34
Oh well. SRAM and Shimano make gearing for pros only now.
I've been trying it for a couple of months, slow, noisy.. few but some front chain drops happen.. uhm... heavy and power meter attached to the chainrings... we can do better
are the d1 and d2 crankarms compatible with each other? like can you upgrade D1 with a left side d2 powermeter? thanks
yep, 100%. Only graphics are different.
I just switched from Ultegra di2 to Force with the shift levers work with previous generation?
Absolutely!
@@SRAM Wicked Pissah Cool 😎. I literally have 3 rides on the previous generation shifter seen new ones like them but slim none if I can swap with my local bike shop with out losing money saved up for a while to get what I have now. Thanks for replying 🙂
I want a fully wireless groupo, but I'm really concerned about the chainring replacements once they wear. No matter what discount is provided, I can't imagine a combo crank and power meter costing what I currently pay for Dura Ace chain rings. Even the option without a PM is probably going to cost a lot more. A lot of us aren't Pro's. We don't get new kit and free maintenance once our parts wear out, we have to fix or pay for those repairs ourselves.
since you're not a Pro,,you can still use the spider base power meter with your chainring choice,or the spindle option if you're cheap.
My question is how many miles do the chain rings last? And to be fair I personally have never changed the front chainrings on my bikes even after years of ownership but I'm not pro.
@@mechy2k2000 People are saying these chainrings can last 4-5 years with moderate use. I think everyone's mileage may vary. Even with my shotty maintenance practices and never cleaning my road bike, I changed my inner chainrings once in like 4 years. The only downside is if once we wear out the inner ring, we have to replace them both.
@@M3GRSD yeah I'm not exactly a fan of the whole one piece design especially and nowadays it seems like no one really does aftermarket cranksets.
i'll listen to any man with a cut like that.
weight?
Is that Kiel Reijnen?
Sure is!
Disposable power meters and disposable remote shifter buttons (blips). 😏
I just want a bike I don't have to plug in. Mechanical shifting, please.
we make lots of mechanical groups! They're great.
@@SRAM I know, and I intend to buy one in the next year. It would be really nice if some R&D went into them, just enough so I can feel a little more confident that 5-40 years down the road I would be able to buy replacement parts, knowing that the current mechanical shifting sets you're selling aren't just old stock you're clearing out. Wide gearing would be cool, too: my dream bike would have a 10-36 12sp cassette with 50/34 chainrings. I don't think that's technically possible using only stock parts but it should be.
@@SRAM You know what they're really asking for is a refresh to 12s for the mech group, since the Force/Red ones haven't seen an update since, 2013 or 2014? A decade!?
The best wireless system
the ONLY wireless system 😉
When did Eric Foreman get rad?
When he became Kiel Reijnen.
@@SRAM Slightly off topic, but are you guys ever going to make a compact eagle cassette for mountain bike groupsets? I really want axs, but I have no need for the huge 10-50/52 cassette.
I want my power meter to be integrated into my chainrings so I have to replace it if my chainrings ever get damaged, wear out, or I just want to change the number of teeth. Said no one, ever. You guys just don't get it.
We're very confident that our AXS chainring durability far surpasses anything we've made before, enough years of riding that we would not consider it disposable at all. When it is finally worn, we do have a recycling program to take care of the electronics.
@diesel if they like bikes, maybe. We're always hiring: www.sram.com/en/company/careers
@@SRAM Well, I understand that the company feels that way but you just turned a $50 component into a $400 component. I'm sure plenty of people will do it but it's going in the wrong direction for me and probably many others that would have considered upgrading.
@@SRAM So, enough years of riding huh? How many years of 15'000km/year? Since you are so confident, do you offer a minimum distance for your crankset?
@@CatManDoSocial While I do think that integrating the PM with the chainrings isn't a great idea, you can get the chainrings without the powermeter.
Why you dont make the front derailleur to auto trimming according the rear gear? Come on...
Rim brakes?
Hydraulic disc only with these new controls! But you can certainly pair any existing AXS rim brake controls with new Force AXS derailleurs if you wish.
They're dead
Disappointing no rim brakes, have to look elsewhere ❤
@@SRAM They're actually in stock somewhere? I haven't seen a right shifter in over a 14 months since trying to order one through my local SRAM retailer.
Why bother with rim brakes? Just use the 11 speed stuff
i go thru too many force axs gen1 chainrings to be replacing a power meter every time
When you start promoting matching sticker details on your flagship groupset it suggests that market is ripe for disruption.
Bike industry is going "full r*tard"
Listen to how he says AXS (access) the right way
Disposable crankset? You guys didn't learn anything.
Just like Shimano 8000 and 9100 units when they split in half.
They kinda did, it obviously was a good trade in program, and they significantly reduced the cost.
@@ryanbaker313 first of all that rarely happens so it’s not even worth mentioning - thousands upon thousands are/were sold. Second they were replaced by warranty with no out of pocket costs to the consumer third You can replace the chainrings all day long to any size you want and/or when they are worn just change one of them.
And for a small price difference, you can season your future waste with some electronic waste as well.
@@BogdanTimofte SRAM’s not being green but they are thinking of their green 💰
Give us new red axs!!!!!
Eric foreman?
He was too allergic to social situations, so we got Kiel Reijnen instead.
Stupid idea losing flexibility of chain rings. Otherwise I liked my old 10 speed rival
13 means 13 speed! oh wait no.
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Red : ???
DOT fluid. Hard no.
hmm... where is a revolution? i'm have a gx axs and...?)
Enough of this nonsense. We want to see the next generation of RED!
Couldn't finish watching this. Ignorance to your customers