Grinding the gear like you did is acceptable. some gears actually came with the ring gear already trimmed slightly across all the teeth. They also used to sell a "cheat" centerpin that was grooved(or ground) on one side to allow you to slide it back in.
When you turn a corner with a differential the outside wheel will have to turn faster to make it around a curve. A "true" locker(not limited slip) will send its power to the inside wheel and the outside wheel will actually turn "forward" to unlock itself and it will freewheel around the corner.
@DoctorHowitzer You get some soft clicking noise, and can be made quieter by using thicker gear oil in the diff. Mine is a daily driver. Sometimes when making a sharp turn such as into a parking space or a U-turn it makes some loud pops as it sometimes sticks locked at low speeds (less than 5mph)... but other than that I have no complaints. Off-road it's great. Only thing is you might think twice if you ever have to drive on ice... if both rear tires are spinning you can fishtail or spinout.
Plenty of people have said it but there is no resetting backlash if you're using the exsisting carrier... All you had to do was remove it from the differential housing, mark and remove the ring gear and do the job, put the ring gear back on the carrier exactly how it came off and you're good to go. Can't believe you ground down a tooth before doing that....
@patman5308 Glad it helped you out, I was looking all over for what to do about getting that pin out and I found a couple of forum posts with like 1 blurry picture. I decided this procedure needs a video.
Great video. What gear do you have in your truck? I have a 88 ranger with 4.56 gear, but I was told this locker can be used only on gears up to 4.10. Thanks!
I hardly notice the ratcheting and it's a lot quiter once oil is at the proper level. Your right a lot of people complain about the noise but honestly don't know why they even care. Look at what you are gaining for a little bit of clicking while turning.
That little bit he ground off that 1gear tooth will never ever matter, the pinion gear mesh is above the ground spot, it don't contact there, so it wont hurt anything.
What are the consequences of installing a locker other than some noise in the differential? Is this something that should be done on a daily driver? I have a 2000 4X2 ranger 4.10 gears, I would like to do this for some light off roading.
@KDCvideos thinks for the info and for posting this video, also as far as making turns other than some possible noise does it effect how sharp it turns? Ya driving on ice unfortunately is something that I have to from time to time in the winter.
@ugadog34 No, it's an "automatic" locker... meaning you have no direct control over it. In an automatic locker, the wheels are normally locked, except when you turn it releases the faster turning wheel. So for turns, normal: outside wheel powered when turning, auto locker: inside wheel powered when turning.
I have to wonder if this will cause me to spin out on a wet or icy road taking normal turns... but the concept is great as I might spend some time driving on a beach in NJ. I would not mind the clicking noise.. I would spray insulation over the out side of the case. But losing control of the truck in we or icy condtions worries me. I'm sure I could deal with it. but I would never lend my truck to anyone after that.. any comments.???
Hey man you seem to kno alot about the lock rights, so I would greatly appreciate any feedback. Will do a burnout all day long but if you stall up and take off or hit it from a roll it will completly slip about halfway through first and stop pulling completly untill I let off and get back on it. Any ideas? Was thinking about the only thing it could be is the springs are weak from being assembled and reassembled causing it to not put enough pressure on the outside teeth. Gm 7.5
So am I right in thinking you only hear the clicking sound when the tires are locked? And that you can unlock them when you're not offroad? Is this correct thinking? How would you do that when you're out driving? I have a Ranger, but what kind of locker would I need? Is there different kinds?
@mtz8709 If you are going in a straight line on the freeway (at any speed really), and you hear the ratcheting sound constantly, something is wrong... sounds like the tires are two different sizes... check that the two rear tires are inflated to the same pressure, and that one isn't much more worn out than the other... otherwise, gotta open up the diff and see what's going on. It should not need to ratchet constantly when going in a straight line.
I ran into the same issue on my Jeep axle with 4.10 gears. Pulling the carrier wasn't bad. Just takes some time. I'll probably do the same ok my ranger.
So am I to understand you correctly in assuming this lock right upgrade will solve my problem of only having one wheel drive? I am constantly getting stuck in the mud where I live. 99 Ford Ranger...
I had Lock Rights installed in both axles of my Chevy 4x4 pickup. I have never heard that "ratcheting" sound when I turn a corner.... My instructions say the clicking noise "can sometimes be heard during turning." In another place in the instructions, it says "it is almost inaudible during cornering." I suppose they can be noisy in some applications and not in others?
great job!! i bought a jk 2008 and i was wondering what that weird sound was. the dealer did not know it was on it or they might have sold it to me for more LOL, in any case thank you for clarifying what that noise is. Awesome, now im confident do go out and trail.!!!
so i plan on getting the same thing in my 1992 f-150 2WD 5.0 v8 and it has 3.55 in the rear end. its 8.8. so do you think i could have the same problems as you or not sure.
I have a 99 ford ranger 4x4 with no posi or locker... I call it limited shit ... what is the cost of the locker that you are installing on the rear end ?
can any one tell me how durable are these Lock Right Lockers as they are constantly wearing out when in conering situations also is it possible to stop completely lock this locker with some mechanism(without welding it) and then bring back to its original way of working? (i am considering this for my off road buggy(BAJA SAE car))
hey man just a thought. Does the locker have a break in period? and shouldn't you change the diff. oil after the period is over? I've heard people saying the diff oil turns metalic after the break in period. just like an engine. any does and don'ts when it's new? thanks :)
hey man, i would like to put a Locked Diferential on my 95 Lincoln Town Car which has a stock 3.08 Final Drive Gear, do any of yall know if there would be any negative things happening if i were to change it?? how much does it cost also?? lol
You have followers now Master, teach me the ways of the two wheel burnout. lol xD Great job pardner! 7.5" 28 spline, right? Isn't that pretty much a Mustang rear end also?
I dont think i would put another lock right in. They are hard on a system. When I put a locker on my Ranger I would like to go with something I can turn on and off mechanically
i liek your truck i had a 1999 ford ranger 2wd and i live in michigan i love that truck but i sold it and got a 2000 gmc sierra i love this truck also it comes with a eaton g80 and its a z71
you know, if you would have taken the case out and just paid attention to how it came apart you could have done this install on the bench, and you wouldn't have had to grind your ring gear,
Thanks for posting. I bought a Lock-Right, but I think the installation instructions are the worst instructions I have ever seen for anything. They are horrible. And the pictures are worthless, like photocopies of photocopies of photocopies. I tried Richmond Gears tech support line, and got an answering machine. I really, really, really needed to see how you put it together! But thanks for posting your video......It helps me understand how it works. I just need to see how it goes together.
One of the reason people buy this type of locker is because you don't have to remove the carrier or check the backlash!! The price also helps to us working folks with family.
JLSGsmargian If it is a matter of money, I understand and agree with you. I am the type of guy that would rather wait to save a bit more and do a better job, taking shortcuts maybe costly in the long run. I am not a wealthy person. cheers
That will never provide a positive lock. You basically installed a "clicker" into your diff. Possibly leaving metal shavings from it clicking as you go around corners. Should of spent a little more to get a mechanical, electric or air locker that positively locks up the diff for real traction. Enjoy your "my CV joint is failing" clicker.
I stand behind my original first sentence. It will NEVER provide a positive lock. It WILL make annoying clicking (your CV joint is wearing out) noises and you've just spent several hours installing a toy in attempts to lock the rear diff. I had a V-6 ranger and was planning on installing a air locker as soon as the truck was paid off. It would let me drive it normally without clicking noises and lock it up fully should I need extra traction while off road. ;) have fun with your clicker toy.
They stand up to reasonable wheeling tho. we didn't ask if he just wanted a better feel on trails, or an easier option to Detroit lockers. I retract my stupid comment tho. But i have heard of people using them to rock crawl, tho id expect a shorter than expected lifespan if used in that way.
Look at the design. Its "always engaged" AND allows it to slip when going around corners. Ive heard front wheel drive cars with faulty CV joints make less noise on cornering than this thing would. What is cool is the person installing it is happy with it. If you would be happy with it then by all means, go ahead. I would recommend a positive locking diff over this for your CJ7.
Got one in my landcruiser and it works just as well as the others. I dont think you really understand how it opetates. Yes it does make noise though but im ok with that as it lets me know its working normally.
i stopped watching after he said "grind the teeth". strength tests show that you would snap both shafts before any cross pin would break. unless this is some field beater then who cares
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Congratulations, this was the best explanation I've ever seen about this kind of lock
Grinding the gear like you did is acceptable. some gears actually came with the ring gear already trimmed slightly across all the teeth. They also used to sell a "cheat" centerpin that was grooved(or ground) on one side to allow you to slide it back in.
Sweet video. Just did this to my 98 ford ranger. I used your video for help on the grinding part cause i wasn't sure how many teeth I needed to grind.
When you turn a corner with a differential the outside wheel will have to turn faster to make it around a curve. A "true" locker(not limited slip) will send its power to the inside wheel and the outside wheel will actually turn "forward" to unlock itself and it will freewheel around the corner.
@DoctorHowitzer You get some soft clicking noise, and can be made quieter by using thicker gear oil in the diff. Mine is a daily driver. Sometimes when making a sharp turn such as into a parking space or a U-turn it makes some loud pops as it sometimes sticks locked at low speeds (less than 5mph)... but other than that I have no complaints. Off-road it's great. Only thing is you might think twice if you ever have to drive on ice... if both rear tires are spinning you can fishtail or spinout.
Plenty of people have said it but there is no resetting backlash if you're using the exsisting carrier... All you had to do was remove it from the differential housing, mark and remove the ring gear and do the job, put the ring gear back on the carrier exactly how it came off and you're good to go. Can't believe you ground down a tooth before doing that....
@patman5308 Glad it helped you out, I was looking all over for what to do about getting that pin out and I found a couple of forum posts with like 1 blurry picture. I decided this procedure needs a video.
Great video. What gear do you have in your truck? I have a 88 ranger with 4.56 gear, but I was told this locker can be used only on gears up to 4.10. Thanks!
@AugustusLarch Its all based on which rear end your ranger has. If it has the 8.8 like my Explorer, then yes there are selectable ones
I hardly notice the ratcheting and it's a lot quiter once oil is at the proper level. Your right a lot of people complain about the noise but honestly don't know why they even care. Look at what you are gaining for a little bit of clicking while turning.
look into the powertrax traction system. similar product but its an apparent more daily driver friendly locker. little more pricey though.
That little bit he ground off that 1gear tooth will never ever matter, the pinion gear mesh is above the ground spot, it don't contact there, so it wont hurt anything.
If you have to turn it backwards to "unlock" it how does it unlock while you are driving
i want to thank you so much for the idea to grind it down to get the pin out... works great thanks.
6:49 what was that loud bang?
What are the consequences of installing a locker other than some noise in the differential? Is this something that should be done on a daily driver? I have a 2000 4X2 ranger 4.10 gears, I would like to do this for some light off roading.
@KDCvideos thinks for the info and for posting this video, also as far as making turns other than some possible noise does it effect how sharp it turns? Ya driving on ice unfortunately is something that I have to from time to time in the winter.
@ugadog34 No, it's an "automatic" locker... meaning you have no direct control over it. In an automatic locker, the wheels are normally locked, except when you turn it releases the faster turning wheel. So for turns, normal: outside wheel powered when turning, auto locker: inside wheel powered when turning.
I have to wonder if this will cause me to spin out on a wet or icy road taking normal turns... but the concept is great as I might spend some time driving on a beach in NJ. I would not mind the clicking noise.. I would spray insulation over the out side of the case. But losing control of the truck in we or icy condtions worries me. I'm sure I could deal with it. but I would never lend my truck to anyone after that.. any comments.???
Hey man you seem to kno alot about the lock rights, so I would greatly appreciate any feedback. Will do a burnout all day long but if you stall up and take off or hit it from a roll it will completly slip about halfway through first and stop pulling completly untill I let off and get back on it. Any ideas? Was thinking about the only thing it could be is the springs are weak from being assembled and reassembled causing it to not put enough pressure on the outside teeth.
Gm 7.5
So am I right in thinking you only hear the clicking sound when the tires are locked? And that you can unlock them when you're not offroad? Is this correct thinking? How would you do that when you're out driving? I have a Ranger, but what kind of locker would I need? Is there different kinds?
how would you put lockers into a 2wd ford ranger and what would be the easiest and cheapest way to do that?
I installed a lockright in the front axle of a ranger, so far so good, no problems
Explain to me how you pulled the carrier pin out , with oily rubber gloves 🤔
@mtz8709 If you are going in a straight line on the freeway (at any speed really), and you hear the ratcheting sound constantly, something is wrong... sounds like the tires are two different sizes... check that the two rear tires are inflated to the same pressure, and that one isn't much more worn out than the other... otherwise, gotta open up the diff and see what's going on. It should not need to ratchet constantly when going in a straight line.
I ran into the same issue on my Jeep axle with 4.10 gears.
Pulling the carrier wasn't bad.
Just takes some time.
I'll probably do the same ok my ranger.
Hey man when you installed the right locker do u have to engage it manually with a button or is it locked all the time?
I have a question, My lock rights came with 4 washers total. 2 are thinner then the other. Can you tell me how that goes.
Will this also work on my 2003 Ford ranger xl?
So am I to understand you correctly in assuming this lock right upgrade will solve my problem of only having one wheel drive? I am constantly getting stuck in the mud where I live. 99 Ford Ranger...
Duster Dan yes this is what you need
Excellent video. Allowed a very indepth look into the Diff on my truck(I have a newer version, but 3.73 as well).
I had Lock Rights installed in both axles of my Chevy 4x4 pickup. I have never heard that "ratcheting" sound when I turn a corner.... My instructions say the clicking noise "can sometimes be heard during turning." In another place in the instructions, it says "it is almost inaudible during cornering." I suppose they can be noisy in some applications and not in others?
Depends maybe on viscosity and type of oil used.
great job!! i bought a jk 2008 and i was wondering what that weird sound was. the dealer did not know it was on it or they might have sold it to me for more LOL, in any case thank you for clarifying what that noise is. Awesome, now im confident do go out and trail.!!!
Is that normal to have the sound clicling when istalling the locker.. i want to install it at my RJ 70 toyota
I believe you don't have to clearance the gear on an 8.8. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Needed to see the spring install. Dang.
so i plan on getting the same thing in my 1992 f-150 2WD 5.0 v8 and it has 3.55 in the rear end. its 8.8. so do you think i could have the same problems as you or not sure.
doing it your way do I have to mess with the backlash ?
Hi there, how would this work in reverse? Will it ratchet and not drive?
I have a 99 ford ranger 4x4 with no posi or locker... I call it limited shit ... what is the cost of the locker that you are installing on the rear end ?
It has been a few years since this video could you tell me how it held out over time?.
Did you have any problems from the time you installed it till now? 7 years still working fine?
can any one tell me how durable are these Lock Right Lockers as they are constantly wearing out when in conering situations
also is it possible to stop completely lock this locker with some mechanism(without welding it) and then bring back to its original way of working?
(i am considering this for my off road buggy(BAJA SAE car))
hey man just a thought. Does the locker have a break in period? and shouldn't you change the diff. oil after the period is over? I've heard people saying the diff oil turns metalic after the break in period. just like an engine. any does and don'ts when it's new? thanks :)
Are there selectable lockers for Rangers available.
hey man, i would like to put a Locked Diferential on my 95 Lincoln Town Car which has a stock 3.08 Final Drive Gear, do any of yall know if there would be any negative things happening if i were to change it?? how much does it cost also?? lol
You wouldn't have to reset the backlash for you are not changing the carrier, if you use the shims it had, it will line up just fine.
You have followers now Master, teach me the ways of the two wheel burnout. lol xD
Great job pardner! 7.5" 28 spline, right? Isn't that pretty much a Mustang rear end also?
This kit is for non position units
How is the locker on the road
Please add a disclaimer at the beginning of both of your videos, I just watched them both for nothing, I wanted to see the install
how do you get the C clipd back in with that thing
I dont think i would put another lock right in. They are hard on a system. When I put a locker on my Ranger I would like to go with something I can turn on and off mechanically
Will this install normally if I already have LSD
would this work well on a mustang?
it is an open dif right now.
Yes, same axle
That ring looks like a 4.56 or 4.88… not a 3.73 at all. The 3.73 ring doesn’t ever need mods made to fit the standard full cylinder pin.
NEVER GRIND THE TEETH ON ANY GEAR! Spend the extra time to do the job right.
Just take the differential out then remove the ring gear the way Ford intended for it to be done
i liek your truck i had a 1999 ford ranger 2wd and i live in michigan i love that truck but i sold it and got a 2000 gmc sierra i love this truck also it comes with a eaton g80 and its a z71
you know, if you would have taken the case out and just paid attention to how it came apart you could have done this install on the bench, and you wouldn't have had to grind your ring gear,
Thanks for posting. I bought a Lock-Right, but I think the installation instructions are the worst instructions I have ever seen for anything. They are horrible. And the pictures are worthless, like photocopies of photocopies of photocopies. I tried Richmond Gears tech support line, and got an answering machine.
I really, really, really needed to see how you put it together!
But thanks for posting your video......It helps me understand how it works. I just need to see how it goes together.
@rangaman86 Nope, this is definitely not the best locker for something with that much power, consider a selectable locker like an Eaton, ARB, or OX.
unless ur making a ton of power, in which case the teeth spread out under very killer amounts of torque
REPlacing pinion bearing on 2001 expendtion
great job on this video !!!!
good job . i have to do the same on my fj40 axles
i dont think ill hear the clicking over my exhaust lol
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theres no problem with that unless u r pulling tons
take a little longer and do it right, remove the carrier
One of the reason people buy this type of locker is because you don't have to remove the carrier or check the backlash!! The price also helps to us working folks with family.
JLSGsmargian
If it is a matter of money, I understand and agree with you. I am the type of guy that would rather wait to save a bit more and do a better job, taking shortcuts maybe costly in the long run. I am not a wealthy person. cheers
5:36 then buy a tripod.
i dont think ill hear the clicking over my exhaust lol
This man using doms as gloves
This is a COMMON Ford fix... Run forever with a "chipped tooth" lol
SWEET!!!
holy mother of god in heaven
That will never provide a positive lock. You basically installed a "clicker" into your diff. Possibly leaving metal shavings from it clicking as you go around corners. Should of spent a little more to get a mechanical, electric or air locker that positively locks up the diff for real traction. Enjoy your "my CV joint is failing" clicker.
lol how stupid you are. those lockers work just fine
I stand behind my original first sentence. It will NEVER provide a positive lock. It WILL make annoying clicking (your CV joint is wearing out) noises and you've just spent several hours installing a toy in attempts to lock the rear diff. I had a V-6 ranger and was planning on installing a air locker as soon as the truck was paid off. It would let me drive it normally without clicking noises and lock it up fully should I need extra traction while off road. ;) have fun with your clicker toy.
They stand up to reasonable wheeling tho. we didn't ask if he just wanted a better feel on trails, or an easier option to Detroit lockers. I retract my stupid comment tho. But i have heard of people using them to rock crawl, tho id expect a shorter than expected lifespan if used in that way.
Look at the design. Its "always engaged" AND allows it to slip when going around corners. Ive heard front wheel drive cars with faulty CV joints make less noise on cornering than this thing would. What is cool is the person installing it is happy with it. If you would be happy with it then by all means, go ahead. I would recommend a positive locking diff over this for your CJ7.
Got one in my landcruiser and it works just as well as the others. I dont think you really understand how it opetates. Yes it does make noise though but im ok with that as it lets me know its working normally.
i stopped watching after he said "grind the teeth". strength tests show that you would snap both shafts before any cross pin would break. unless this is some field beater then who cares
less metal on that tooth. now its going to be weaker
but thats the fun part lol
Get a tripod and stop shaking the camera!
Brilliant, thanks