Way to go! As someone new to the brand, I was treated respectfully but I also waited until every person a head of me with a relationship with my dealer turned down the allocation… from deposit to receiving my 911 C2S manual was just over 26 months. It was worth the wait but I’m glad your wait wasn’t as long. In a lot of ways it’s a matter of luck and timing. I will say that in my case my dealer sold me the car at MSRP and with absolutely no extra stipulations which I appreciated. I took delivery of my car in early May and I already have 3,200 miles. I love it!
Congrats on your new 911! Glad I received mine so quickly, but wouldn't have been upset if I had to wait the 24 months either. Life is all about the journey, and just being in line put a huge smile on my face. 3,200 miles, glad to hear that you've really been enjoying it! Did you wait the entire 1,875 miles before exceeding 4200 RPM? I'm struggling to keep the revs low as I'm only at 600 miles.
Great video. That car is a dream for a lot of people. Enjoy it to the fullest. I’m a bmw/porsche guy and one day I’d love to fully speck a new one. I currently have a 23’ 330i m sport that I bought new and I love it. So until my time comes I’ll keep admiring these rides!
Always loved engineering and cars. AMG enthusiast. Love the Porsche brand. Last year walked into a dealership in Louisiana and test drove a 2L 718, kept in contact with the crew. Got a call last month saying if I need to build a 718 gts 4.0 they have 2 allocations. Was excited but I prefer GT4 even if I’ll only get a used one. Walked into my local dealership in my current state and just based on my enthusiasm they wanted me to buy GTS 4.0 but I told them I am waiting for a GT4 with reasonable pricing. Following week got a call saying I’ll be number one on list for GT4RS with allocation from Porsche pending. Shocked and asked why. She said you live closer. I do live closer. Never bought a Porsche and when I went into that dealer I drove my 2023 V8 C63s which is the last V8 to roll off AMG plant (I personally built it and picked it up this Jan). I told the dealer, I’m not materialistic and if I don’t drive a Porsche GT I’m cool. That being said, I’m a petrol head with extensive background in owning AMGs. Let your enthusiasm shine through and dealerships will know. They want people who will drive and have fun and not people who want to flip cars for profits. Waiting on my GT4RS - with a markup fee. Smh
Sounds like you had a great experience. Congrats on the GT4RS allocation! Interested in your thoughts on the AMG GT and if you've test driven one of those. I've heard that Porsche is the ultimate track car but I also wanted to look into the AMG GT in comparison to the GT4 (non-RS).
Yes I have driven one but never owned one. GT4 and AMG GT (the GTC) are comparable in performance but different experience. There is the GTS, GTC and GTR and black series. I drove a GTC and it’s refined yet very track ready if you get the camber on point. I think it’s best for, as the name suggests a Grand Tourer, Fast and comfortable. The GT Benz are just timeless because no other car has that silhouette. So get it just for that. It’s like the SLS - timeless. Remember MB had stuff in their car 30 years ago when other cars are only just now making. But if you can get a AMG GTR go for it. I’m in Maryland. More than happy to meet fellow petrol heads.
That’s crazy. Just sold my 992 GTS for Huracan. I never bought a Porsche in my life and my sales guy called me whiten a week that I have an allocation. That’s a long wait
I've completely avoided this process and became my own ambassador on the nationwide used Porsche market and have done well the last several years starting with a Panamera turbo and ending up with a 992 C4s. I have always gotten what I wanted, just through used market, and within a few weeks. I dont have the patience to deal with this process, so great job if you do.
Congrats on the 991.1! Yeah I don't know how anyone manages to drive a cabriolet during the day in southern states! Maybe its cool enough between the months of December to April.
@@Engineerdreamsofficial Riding down the coast during a Florida day will explain it all lol - the beach air just hits different. Have you done any mods to your 992?
Congrats on the milestone and great looking spec, I just finished my first year of ownership with my agate gray 992 (my dream car as well). funny, i also had a Y before.
Congratulations to you, beautiful car! I ordered my 911 Turbo S back in Feb. 2022, finally got it in Sept. 2023 in the aventurine green and absolutely love it!
Congrats; I just took delivery of my 992.1 C2S 2 weeks ago and took about 6 months to get it. Also got the aero kit and same wheels but car in chalk and interior in slate grey.
I just bought a new 2024 911 Carrera T with no allocation, just researching what was available through Porsche dealerships nationwide. I live in TX and ended up buying a well optioned 911 T from CA. There was an ADM, however if I purchased dealer offered options, e.g. additional maintenance pkgs, a watch, or e-bike, that would negate the ADM from MSRP. I chose their full PPF/Ceramic pkg (Xpel) and added 7 yr wheel and tire protection with a discounted price. I was going to purchase these regardless. Update: I bought my car in June there were 25 Carrera T’s a available at the time. Today there are only 4 nationwide. Glad I pulled the trigger when I did. No regrets, it’s an awesome car.
Congrats on the Carrera T! Sounds like it was a win win since you were going to get PPF and the wheel and tire package anyway. The market has definitely changed so glad you got in at the right time.
Nice car! Just got my allocation for a 2025 GTS. My dealer (Cary Porsche, Cary NC) was able to get me one in a week, even though I've never owned a Porsche, but I have purchased BMWs from the dealer in the past. The expect delivery in late November.
Congrats on the GTS allocation and getting a .2 variant. Glad the dealer was about to slot you in quickly. I'm interested to see and hear what the 992.2s look and sound like in real life.
Stopped by a dealership yesterday and they told me it was about a 2 yr wait on a 911 but mentioned that the $2500 non-refundable deposit was required for the order and then once the allocation took place 10% of the purchase price (non-refundable) was required. Sounds like this was not the path you had to take?
wow that is slightly different than my experience. I was also told it would be a 2yr wait but that the deposit wasn't required until I actually got the allocation in 2 years. The purpose of the deposit was to "lock in" the production spot. They didn't mention if it would be non-refundable but I didn't ask either because it wasn't due until the allocation was granted. I also didn't have to put down 10%. Perhaps its because I brought my own financing. I'm going to do the next video on the financing portion of my experience.
Your perspective is good. It is about the journey. And because I had to wait so long, I had a lot of time to really study and understand options. For that reason I was able to really know what I wanted. The result is that there’s nothing about my car is change today. Seriously, it’s exactly the way I would want it. In the end the only thing I didn’t get as my build locked was a PTS. I really wanted Meissen Blue but a PTS slot wasn’t in the cards. From there I too wanted Aventurine Green but just like you that had been removed from the color chart. My salesman said I could wait for a PTS allocation or keep this one and choose another color. That was a no brainer, I chose Arctic Grey which I’ve turned out to really love. As for the miles and break-in. Yes, I did follow the recommended break-in and kept my miles at or below 4K. A couple of times I had a miss shift (because of my manual) and I did blip it above that. But not intentionally and not severe. The funny thing is that my dealership told me to ignore that and so did a friend who has been in the brand for a long time. However, I have another friend who is super into Porsche and had had nine 911’s since 1972. He’s also a national concourse judge for Porsche. He is a purist and his advice was to do what Porsche themselves say should be done - that’s the advice I took. Yes, at times it was hard but in the end I know how my car has been treated and that’s part of the joy of being the first owner.
Sounds like you're having a great experience. I agree about following the advice from Porsche, especially if you plan on the keeping the vehicle for the long term.
Sounds like you made out nicely! Luckily the required options were on my list. Really glad about the extended fuel tank. We will see how the year 2 maintenance plan pans out.
Awesome thanks for sharing the process I always knew it was some kind of ordering process but not sure specifically how Porsche did it. Congrats on the new 911 it looks pretty sweet! I myself am strongly entertaining the idea of trading up for a BMW M car. Not sure if I’m gonna order a new M3 Comp or go for a used M5 Comp. Currently I putt around in my Acura TLX Type-S but I’m longing for a faster sedan Definitely give us a 1st month ownership review video or something if you have the extra time!
Those M cars are very powerful. I rode in a coworkers M3 and the torque was bananas! Depending on your lifestyle, the used M5 might be the ultimate daily.
Where do you live? in Switzerland allocation process applies/applied only for GT3 RS, S/T, Dakar & Classic. Unofficial GT2 RS allocation can be discussed.
Thanks for sharing that process. I think that is absolutely bizarre process to go thru to buy a new car. Dealer required options? Allocation for a non-GT car? I have two Porsches in the garage but I bought used. I don’t have new Porsche money and from the sound of it, I’m glad I missed that experience. I’m a Porsche fan, but that seems very Ferrari-esque. Like they are doing you a favor to let you buy a car from them. Maybe that’s just the way I’m perceiving it. Anyway, your Carrera S looks nice. I can’t do black cars (even though my wife’s Boxster S is black) but red interior are my weakness. Enjoy!!
I really wanted the aerokit and at the time used 911s with aerokits were going at or above MSRP. Waiting for an allocation to buy a new Porsche at MSRP turned out to the the "economical" option. I intend on going to CPO/used route when I'm in the market for a GT car. It seems like many luxury brands exercise their leverage to control the supply/demand curve. In this case, I had to play along with the game to get what I wanted.
No, believe me I get it. When it comes to cars we want what we want and we’re gonna do what we gotta do to get them. I’m just glad I didn’t have to deal with that. Let me rephrase that….I can’t afford to deal with it and apparently it’s a blessing in disguise. The process seems less than desirable, but means to an end. Either way, I don’t mean to take away from your excitement and enjoyment. Car looks great. What part of Texas?
Agree. Consumers need to wake up and stop supporting these manufacturers. Porsches are boring. Both to look at and to drive. Any McLaren lambo or Ferrari has lot more excitement speed and supercar image than a Porsche. A gt3 RS gets treated the same as a base 911. No one cares about them
Allocation games are so dumb. My time is worth a lot more than greasing up a dealership. As consumers, we need to reject these shady practices that create a false sense of scarcity because a dealer network wants to line their pockets by robbing the consumer.
For me it seemed more like a "set it and forget it" scenario. Get on the list, continue living life, and they call when you're up. Truth be told, the scarcity come from the factory and rolls down the dealers. If each year Porsche produced more than 50k 911s worldwide, there would be more supply for everyone.
I have a Model Y performance and am considering a 992 gen 911 Carrera 4S. In your opinion, what's better about the Porsche compared to the Tesla? I know speed is similar, that's about it
It all depends on how we define the word "better". The Porsche 911 looks 1000x better than any Tesla. Depending on where you live and your lifestyle, you might see
This was a requirement for me! When I first feel in love with the brand, I wanted a GT4. However, a wife and kid later the 911 was the best options because of the backseat.
I didn't ask, but from what I read some of those options make the vehicle more sellable if you 1) don't follow through with the purchase; and2) when/if you trade the vehicle back in to them.
hi, congrats, this 911 gen looks soo nice especially with an aero kit and must be so fun to drive. if its not too indescreteare are u an engineer ? i am very interested in your carreer and how you managed to afford a new 911.
Did you ever consider just picking up a CPO that was specked really close to the way you wanted it although perhaps you wouldn’t have even saved money given the pricing
Yes, that was actually plan A. However, at the time similarly spec’d CPO 992s w/aerokit were 20k over what mine cost new. That’s honestly the only reason I bought a new one, the opportunity to buy at msrp.
Skip all that.. I know dealerships here in California that don't do or make you do all that extra bs like you're buying some one of a kind Ferrari. It's a 911 haha.. that's a bit much. I have several friend's with 911s all new from 4s, 4 GTS, Turbo S, GT3, and GT3RS of which the only thing they had to deal with was wait time.
Based on my [limited] research, some dealership aren't too keen on giving allocations to out of state buyers. Whenever I'm in the market for my next car, I'll have to reach out to some Cali dealership and give it a try.
@Engineerdreamsofficial Contact Redwood City Porsche. Sales guy Sam Pham great guy. We were just at the dealership yesterday as our friend was picking up her 2024 992 4S fully spec'd in Chalk with aero package. Paid cash $210K OTD.
It was interesting to learn about when I was conducting research. I went to 4 different dealerships in 2 different states and they all asked the same 3 opening questions.
Your experience was similar to mine. I had to go to several dealerships in Chicagoland before finding one that had a reasonable allocation process. Never thought buying a car would be such a "privilege". In any case congrats on the 911!
Yeah it is an interesting experience but adds to the exclusivity of the brand. Some folks really enjoy having a car that not everyone can just walk into the dealership and buy. Not a huge deal for me, but it does make the experience more special when there aren't thousands of your same car rolling down the road.
911 S trim starts at 131k USD and depending on options can quickly run through the roof. Realistically, a new 911 S that is reasonably optioned will be 150-200k after sales tax.
It seems to me I would have to kiss a** to spend lots of money on a product that I worked for many decades. Taking it to a dealership for maintenance is a markup itself. Imagine if all businesses did this! I'd say kiss my ass and purchase one privately.
I can only imagine what the maintenance cost difference is between the dealership and a private shop. I plan on purchasing a used GT4 in the future so many I'll do a maintenance cost comparison.
If you are a prospective customer looking to buy a new Porsche and you play these silly allocation games on base level 911's then you are a fool. This type of stupidity and greed is usually reserved for the limited cars (RS cars, Speedsters, anniversary editions etc.) Stop engaging in these stupid games, people. You are the customer. You are leading this transaction. They need you in order to have a successful business. Get a clue.
S and GTS aren't base 911s. Depending on which dealer you talk to, the base 911 are some of the harder allocations to come by (outside of GT cars). However, I get your point that one would expect more of a challenge getting an allocation for a GT car and other ultra-limited trims. Nevertheless, the data highlights the supply and demand principles that many luxury brands use to develop their sales strategy. Porsche delivered 50k 911s worldwide in 2023, which was 24% higher than the 2022 production numbers (see source 1). In the US, there were only 11k 911s produced (see source 2). Based on that data, it appears there are far more 911 buyers than 911s coming off the production line. I'm sure there are at least 50K buyers in California alone who would want a new 911 (agnostic of the trim level). This is a strong indication that Porsche is leading these transactions and have plenty of buyer's that will keep them successful for another 76 years. Source 1: newsroom.porsche.com/en/2024/company/porsche-deliveries-2023-34942.html#:~:text=The%20Overseas%20and%20Emerging%20Markets,of%20deliveries%20was%20the%20Cayenne Source 2: newsroom.porsche.com/en_US/2024/company/porsche-reports-US-retail-sales-for-2023.html
I’m sorry the 911 is over rated I just traded in my 911 for the new MB GT 2025 2 door not sure why u had to wait thats the game they play my 2022 911 was very boring and wasn’t better than M4 2023 good luck my taycan is quicker than the 911 not feeling them anymore good luck
Interesting perspective. I actually was looking at the MB GTR for a track toy but just couldn't get away from the Porsche brand. 911 is on the tame side in comparison to higher HP/torque benz and bimmers. Overall, I bought the 911 for what it was though. Still interesting in test driving for MB GTR for comparison though.
And I’m sorry I don’t race I love cars that look sexy and drive nice 911 to me aren’t sexy to me basically they all look alike and the inside boring and overrated and this another thing u get these guys who get a 2016 911 and pulls up on you and thinks his is just as fast as my brand 911 GTS I can’t do it I’m sorry no racing for me
Jesus you got turned over on the dealer must haves they forced you in to buying be it the added specs or all the add on warranty packages just to secure a run of the mill 991. A 991s been treated as a special car is bonkers and a sure fire way to loose some serious money.
Luckily I was planning on getting most of those options like the extended fuel tank (which I'm so thankful for now)! I pre-paid for year 2 maintenance and they threw in a warranty package for free so it pretty much evened out. It's a 992, last of the non-hybrid 911s (for now), so it might age well.
Can’t believe you need “allocation” for a 911 S. Wow. Porsche needs to get off its high horse. That car is as interesting as a Camry TRD. I can’t believe people play these stupid games to buy a base Porsche. 100s of better cars out there for lot less that doesn’t require playing these dumb games with Porsche.
At the price point, you’re right, there are several other options. Not much experience with luxury or exotic brands to compare the buying experience, but I’m sure the used market is much more streamlined even for Porsche.
I agree there are cheaper cars with more features (i.e. horsepower). However, many if us have owned those cars. The 911 is a better investment in the long run as it will hold its value.
@@Maxrotor1 if you want to invest, put the money elsewhere. cars are toys. If i am buying a toy, i want it to make me smile and scream like a child in excitement. I have driven many porsches, from base 4s , GTS, boxter to gt3 RS and GT4RS. not a single one made me laugh or feel excited. on the other hand one drive in a 458 or a 600LT was enough for me to buy the car on the spot. thats what a fun car is supposed to do to you. investment is a poor excuse to justify buying a porsche. There is not a single exciting element in any Porsches except 918 and carrera GT.
Good build. I waited a long time for my Targa GTS allocation. I picked up my new 911 in June. Congrats again.
Thanks! Congrats on the Targa GTS! Seems like we just made the cut before the hybrid transition.
Congrats. The allocation game isn’t for everyone, but it’s rewarding in the long run.
Agreed! Some folks stand in line for concert tickets, other folks for Porsches :)
@@Engineerdreamsofficial Concert tickets can be purchased the same day!!!
Way to go! As someone new to the brand, I was treated respectfully but I also waited until every person a head of me with a relationship with my dealer turned down the allocation… from deposit to receiving my 911 C2S manual was just over 26 months. It was worth the wait but I’m glad your wait wasn’t as long. In a lot of ways it’s a matter of luck and timing. I will say that in my case my dealer sold me the car at MSRP and with absolutely no extra stipulations which I appreciated. I took delivery of my car in early May and I already have 3,200 miles. I love it!
Congrats on your new 911! Glad I received mine so quickly, but wouldn't have been upset if I had to wait the 24 months either. Life is all about the journey, and just being in line put a huge smile on my face.
3,200 miles, glad to hear that you've really been enjoying it! Did you wait the entire 1,875 miles before exceeding 4200 RPM? I'm struggling to keep the revs low as I'm only at 600 miles.
Great video. That car is a dream for a lot of people. Enjoy it to the fullest. I’m a bmw/porsche guy and one day I’d love to fully speck a new one. I currently have a 23’ 330i m sport that I bought new and I love it. So until my time comes I’ll keep admiring these rides!
Thanks! I grew up fantasizing over a M6 and still would love one as a daily. So much raw power in those M cars.
Always loved engineering and cars. AMG enthusiast.
Love the Porsche brand. Last year walked into a dealership in Louisiana and test drove a 2L 718, kept in contact with the crew. Got a call last month saying if I need to build a 718 gts 4.0 they have 2 allocations. Was excited but I prefer GT4 even if I’ll only get a used one.
Walked into my local dealership in my current state and just based on my enthusiasm they wanted me to buy GTS 4.0 but I told them I am waiting for a GT4 with reasonable pricing. Following week got a call saying I’ll be number one on list for GT4RS with allocation from Porsche pending.
Shocked and asked why. She said you live closer. I do live closer. Never bought a Porsche and when I went into that dealer I drove my 2023 V8 C63s which is the last V8 to roll off AMG plant (I personally built it and picked it up this Jan).
I told the dealer, I’m not materialistic and if I don’t drive a Porsche GT I’m cool. That being said, I’m a petrol head with extensive background in owning AMGs.
Let your enthusiasm shine through and dealerships will know. They want people who will drive and have fun and not people who want to flip cars for profits.
Waiting on my GT4RS - with a markup fee. Smh
Good news!
Thanks for sharing
Sounds like you had a great experience. Congrats on the GT4RS allocation! Interested in your thoughts on the AMG GT and if you've test driven one of those. I've heard that Porsche is the ultimate track car but I also wanted to look into the AMG GT in comparison to the GT4 (non-RS).
Yes I have driven one but never owned one. GT4 and AMG GT (the GTC) are comparable in performance but different experience. There is the GTS, GTC and GTR and black series.
I drove a GTC and it’s refined yet very track ready if you get the camber on point. I think it’s best for, as the name suggests a Grand Tourer, Fast and comfortable. The GT Benz are just timeless because no other car has that silhouette. So get it just for that. It’s like the SLS - timeless. Remember MB had stuff in their car 30 years ago when other cars are only just now making.
But if you can get a AMG GTR go for it.
I’m in Maryland. More than happy to meet fellow petrol heads.
Loved your story congratulations
Congrats man! first time learning about allocations. I hope to get more of this. Helps me brace for my dreams
Yes, getting as much information upfront will definitely help manage expectations and will overall improve the buying experience.
That’s crazy. Just sold my 992 GTS for Huracan. I never bought a Porsche in my life and my sales guy called me whiten a week that I have an allocation. That’s a long wait
Congratulations, I hope you love every minute behind the wheel!!!
I've completely avoided this process and became my own ambassador on the nationwide used Porsche market and have done well the last several years starting with a Panamera turbo and ending up with a 992 C4s. I have always gotten what I wanted, just through used market, and within a few weeks. I dont have the patience to deal with this process, so great job if you do.
Thanks for sharing the process. Congrats on the ride, it's beautiful!
BIG Congrats!! Love the milestone how you were able to obtain the allocation not to mention beautiful interior. Enjoy and look forward to updated vid.
Amazing bro! Love to hear your story! I just scooped a 991.1 TTS July 3rd! I'm here in Fl so I know that heat you are talking lol!
Congrats on the 991.1! Yeah I don't know how anyone manages to drive a cabriolet during the day in southern states! Maybe its cool enough between the months of December to April.
@@Engineerdreamsofficial Riding down the coast during a Florida day will explain it all lol - the beach air just hits different. Have you done any mods to your 992?
Congrats! I learned a lot! Thank you for sharing!
Congrats on the milestone and great looking spec, I just finished my first year of ownership with my agate gray 992 (my dream car as well). funny, i also had a Y before.
Thanks! Congrats on your Porsche anniversary. Is the 911 your daily driver?
Congratulations, Great Build.
Congrats on getting your dream car. Informative video too!
Is that Porsche North Houston? I bought my used C8 from there last month. Very kind people. The car looks amazing. Congratulations.
No, but I heard good things about that dealership. My neighborhood picked up a few allocations from there.
Congratulations to you, beautiful car! I ordered my 911 Turbo S back in Feb. 2022, finally got it in Sept. 2023 in the aventurine green and absolutely love it!
Congrats on the Turbo S! How many miles have you driven so far?
@@Engineerdreamsofficial Thank You and I have 1,144 on it. I am driving this one more than my last one:)
Congrats; I just took delivery of my 992.1 C2S 2 weeks ago and took about 6 months to get it. Also got the aero kit and same wheels but car in chalk and interior in slate grey.
Thanks! Congrats on your new ride. How are you liking the slate grey interior? So far is it holding up well against dye transfer from denim?
Thanks for sharing. Would love to see a longer video on this topic with some things you've learned since getting the car
Great idea. I'll add a 1 month review to the list of videos.
I just bought a new 2024 911 Carrera T with no allocation, just researching what was available through Porsche dealerships nationwide. I live in TX and ended up buying a well optioned 911 T from CA.
There was an ADM, however if I purchased dealer offered options, e.g. additional maintenance pkgs, a watch, or e-bike, that would negate the ADM from MSRP. I chose their full PPF/Ceramic pkg (Xpel) and added 7 yr wheel and tire protection with a discounted price. I was going to purchase these regardless.
Update: I bought my car in June there were 25 Carrera T’s a available at the time. Today there are only 4 nationwide. Glad I pulled the trigger when I did. No regrets, it’s an awesome car.
Congrats on the Carrera T! Sounds like it was a win win since you were going to get PPF and the wheel and tire package anyway. The market has definitely changed so glad you got in at the right time.
Nice car! Just got my allocation for a 2025 GTS. My dealer (Cary Porsche, Cary NC) was able to get me one in a week, even though I've never owned a Porsche, but I have purchased BMWs from the dealer in the past. The expect delivery in late November.
That is my closest dealer as well, do you know if they had any 992 turbo s allocations available too ?
Congrats on the GTS allocation and getting a .2 variant. Glad the dealer was about to slot you in quickly. I'm interested to see and hear what the 992.2s look and sound like in real life.
@@HiHi-bd4rn Turbos at the time I inquired, no. Said it would be at least a year for on one of those.
@@Engineerdreamsofficial Thanks. When mine comes in, I'll do a short review.
@@jerryscaptures2438 when did you place your order to able to arrive in November ?
Not only the allocation, but the waiting. At one point 992.1 CS2s were 18-24 months out cuz they were so backed up.
Exactly. Most generations, especially since the worldwide event in 2022, have been backed up.
It looks very nice chap, well done
Thanks a lot!
Wish this video was longer……VERY insightful love from UK
Thank you! I'll aim for a longer format next time.
Congratulations! Nice spec.
Thanks! Countless hours on the Porsche configurator! :)
Stopped by a dealership yesterday and they told me it was about a 2 yr wait on a 911 but mentioned that the $2500 non-refundable deposit was required for the order and then once the allocation took place 10% of the purchase price (non-refundable) was required. Sounds like this was not the path you had to take?
wow that is slightly different than my experience. I was also told it would be a 2yr wait but that the deposit wasn't required until I actually got the allocation in 2 years. The purpose of the deposit was to "lock in" the production spot. They didn't mention if it would be non-refundable but I didn't ask either because it wasn't due until the allocation was granted. I also didn't have to put down 10%. Perhaps its because I brought my own financing. I'm going to do the next video on the financing portion of my experience.
Enjoy your Car Sir lve always would like them
Congrats! Beautiful 911!
Beautiful, Congratulations! I hope to join you someday.
Your perspective is good. It is about the journey. And because I had to wait so long, I had a lot of time to really study and understand options. For that reason I was able to really know what I wanted. The result is that there’s nothing about my car is change today. Seriously, it’s exactly the way I would want it. In the end the only thing I didn’t get as my build locked was a PTS. I really wanted Meissen Blue but a PTS slot wasn’t in the cards. From there I too wanted Aventurine Green but just like you that had been removed from the color chart. My salesman said I could wait for a PTS allocation or keep this one and choose another color. That was a no brainer, I chose Arctic Grey which I’ve turned out to really love. As for the miles and break-in. Yes, I did follow the recommended break-in and kept my miles at or below 4K. A couple of times I had a miss shift (because of my manual) and I did blip it above that. But not intentionally and not severe. The funny thing is that my dealership told me to ignore that and so did a friend who has been in the brand for a long time. However, I have another friend who is super into Porsche and had had nine 911’s since 1972. He’s also a national concourse judge for Porsche. He is a purist and his advice was to do what Porsche themselves say should be done - that’s the advice I took. Yes, at times it was hard but in the end I know how my car has been treated and that’s part of the joy of being the first owner.
Sounds like you're having a great experience. I agree about following the advice from Porsche, especially if you plan on the keeping the vehicle for the long term.
Congrats. Very few people are able to do what you did , thanks for sharing! Good luck…
Thanks for the positivity! My dealer gave me a great experience.
Wow. I received an allocation with no required options and no markup. Your dealer is pretty greedy.
Sounds like you made out nicely! Luckily the required options were on my list. Really glad about the extended fuel tank. We will see how the year 2 maintenance plan pans out.
Congrats!!! Looks great!!!
Thanks a lot!
This is the perfect spec, looking for a used one of this same color package and everything.
Congratulations!
1:48 😂 you lost me " didn't wanna *read - Don't know how to drive MANUAL 😂😂😂
I was wondering if anyone was going to catch that. Guilty as charged! LOL
Awesome thanks for sharing the process I always knew it was some kind of ordering process but not sure specifically how Porsche did it.
Congrats on the new 911 it looks pretty sweet! I myself am strongly entertaining the idea of trading up for a BMW M car. Not sure if I’m gonna order a new M3 Comp or go for a used M5 Comp.
Currently I putt around in my Acura TLX Type-S but I’m longing for a faster sedan
Definitely give us a 1st month ownership review video or something if you have the extra time!
Those M cars are very powerful. I rode in a coworkers M3 and the torque was bananas! Depending on your lifestyle, the used M5 might be the ultimate daily.
Congrats
Where do you live? in Switzerland allocation process applies/applied only for GT3 RS, S/T, Dakar & Classic. Unofficial GT2 RS allocation can be discussed.
I’m in the USA. Sounds like things are much different over there. Glad to hear the process is more streamlined somewhere.
Congrats man ! Do you mind sharing how much it cost ! 🎉🎉
Spec'd at $170k
Good change with those indicators.
Was my very first mod!
Thanks for sharing that process. I think that is absolutely bizarre process to go thru to buy a new car. Dealer required options? Allocation for a non-GT car? I have two Porsches in the garage but I bought used. I don’t have new Porsche money and from the sound of it, I’m glad I missed that experience. I’m a Porsche fan, but that seems very Ferrari-esque. Like they are doing you a favor to let you buy a car from them. Maybe that’s just the way I’m perceiving it. Anyway, your Carrera S looks nice. I can’t do black cars (even though my wife’s Boxster S is black) but red interior are my weakness. Enjoy!!
I really wanted the aerokit and at the time used 911s with aerokits were going at or above MSRP. Waiting for an allocation to buy a new Porsche at MSRP turned out to the the "economical" option. I intend on going to CPO/used route when I'm in the market for a GT car. It seems like many luxury brands exercise their leverage to control the supply/demand curve. In this case, I had to play along with the game to get what I wanted.
No, believe me I get it. When it comes to cars we want what we want and we’re gonna do what we gotta do to get them. I’m just glad I didn’t have to deal with that. Let me rephrase that….I can’t afford to deal with it and apparently it’s a blessing in disguise. The process seems less than desirable, but means to an end. Either way, I don’t mean to take away from your excitement and enjoyment. Car looks great. What part of Texas?
Thanks. I bought in the Houston area.
I’m in the Austin area.
Agree. Consumers need to wake up and stop supporting these manufacturers. Porsches are boring. Both to look at and to drive. Any McLaren lambo or Ferrari has lot more excitement speed and supercar image than a Porsche. A gt3 RS gets treated the same as a base 911. No one cares about them
Needing a certain allocation for a particular color is insane!!
Perhaps it helps for resale, but for $13k a vinyl wrap is much most cost effective.
Congratulations! Enjoy
Great build
Allocation games are so dumb. My time is worth a lot more than greasing up a dealership. As consumers, we need to reject these shady practices that create a false sense of scarcity because a dealer network wants to line their pockets by robbing the consumer.
For me it seemed more like a "set it and forget it" scenario. Get on the list, continue living life, and they call when you're up. Truth be told, the scarcity come from the factory and rolls down the dealers. If each year Porsche produced more than 50k 911s worldwide, there would be more supply for everyone.
Definitely don’t need special allocation for an S in Sydney.
Yeah maybe its a Porsche USA thing. I heard they don't need allocations for S trims in Switzerland too.
Congrats bro! I got a 997.2 and am saving up for a 992 GT3.
Thanks! Those 997s are beautiful! I’d love to have a 992 GT3 as well!
I have a Model Y performance and am considering a 992 gen 911 Carrera 4S. In your opinion, what's better about the Porsche compared to the Tesla? I know speed is similar, that's about it
It all depends on how we define the word "better". The Porsche 911 looks 1000x better than any Tesla. Depending on where you live and your lifestyle, you might see
Great looking spec! I would like same thing 😊
Thanks! I initially had my heart set on green exterior, but I think it turned out for the best.
Looks like you're in Houston ! congrats on the 911
Yessir, thanks!
Congrats! Thanks for sharing
Thanks, happy to share my process!
Great to see the carseat.. think I can get the wifes approval now!
This was a requirement for me! When I first feel in love with the brand, I wanted a GT4. However, a wife and kid later the 911 was the best options because of the backseat.
what was the reasoning behind the dealership forcing the extended fuel tank and headrest crests?
I didn't ask, but from what I read some of those options make the vehicle more sellable if you 1) don't follow through with the purchase; and2) when/if you trade the vehicle back in to them.
how long would it take to get a custom 911 cabriolet base model with a leipzig pick - up?
Great question. It depends of several factors, so I'd suggest you visit a few dealers in your area to see who can get you that allocation.
You did well young man. Thanks for sharing and congratulations, enjoy!.😎👍
Thanks a lot!
wait the most important part, how much was it lol, and how do you negotiate the pricing and stuff liek that.
That will be in the following video coming out next week.
hi, congrats, this 911 gen looks soo nice especially with an aero kit and must be so fun to drive. if its not too indescreteare are u an engineer ? i am very interested in your carreer and how you managed to afford a new 911.
Thanks! It’s been a blast so far. Yup I’m an engineer. Working hard, investing aggressively, and focusing my savings over time got me here.
@@Engineerdreamsofficial keep going bro, get that gt4rs
Did you ever consider just picking up a CPO that was specked really close to the way you wanted it although perhaps you wouldn’t have even saved money given the pricing
Yes, that was actually plan A. However, at the time similarly spec’d CPO 992s w/aerokit were 20k over what mine cost new. That’s honestly the only reason I bought a new one, the opportunity to buy at msrp.
Nice Spec! I just picked up my 992 Carrera T 3 weeks ago. I am also in Texas. Would love to connect!
Congrats on the new 911 T! Have you joined PCA or gone to can car meets yet (i.e., team savage or cars and coffee)?
Hey man off topic where did you get the hat from it’s nice. Thanks
The Porsche gift shop. It came as a gift from my brand ambassador.
so basically just wait?
I waited, but there were several options presented including: buying used, compromising on trim, trying different dealers, etc.
Can you talk about how much downpayment and financing stuff? Plus monthly note
Sure! I'll post a separate video about that.
Skip all that.. I know dealerships here in California that don't do or make you do all that extra bs like you're buying some one of a kind Ferrari. It's a 911 haha.. that's a bit much. I have several friend's with 911s all new from 4s, 4 GTS, Turbo S, GT3, and GT3RS of which the only thing they had to deal with was wait time.
Based on my [limited] research, some dealership aren't too keen on giving allocations to out of state buyers. Whenever I'm in the market for my next car, I'll have to reach out to some Cali dealership and give it a try.
@Engineerdreamsofficial Contact Redwood City Porsche. Sales guy Sam Pham great guy. We were just at the dealership yesterday as our friend was picking up her 2024 992 4S fully spec'd in Chalk with aero package. Paid cash $210K OTD.
@@Engineerdreamsofficial also forgot no markups, only on the GT3 and GT3RS
@@calimade8136 thanks for passing on the contact!
This buying history thing is the greatest BS in the history of selling cars
It was interesting to learn about when I was conducting research. I went to 4 different dealerships in 2 different states and they all asked the same 3 opening questions.
@@Engineerdreamsofficial Hope to see more and longer videos of your amazing car in the future, Sir! Cheers from Stuttgart Germany
Nissan is real daddy!
I can’t believe you turned down a Manual.
A manual Porsche is still an option. I have my eyes set on a 981 GT4 or something a little bit more raw.
‘Brand Ambassador’ just means “sales rep” right?
Yup!
there are a lot of potholes and bad roads, steep parking lots near that dealership and in that city. terrible decision if u care about the body damage
Agreed. Not the best driving experience in the inner loop, but definitely “greener pastures” out towards the burbs.
@@Engineerdreamsofficial yes, i hope ur out by the "k" area
Your experience was similar to mine. I had to go to several dealerships in Chicagoland before finding one that had a reasonable allocation process. Never thought buying a car would be such a "privilege". In any case congrats on the 911!
Yeah it is an interesting experience but adds to the exclusivity of the brand. Some folks really enjoy having a car that not everyone can just walk into the dealership and buy. Not a huge deal for me, but it does make the experience more special when there aren't thousands of your same car rolling down the road.
How much ?
911 S trim starts at 131k USD and depending on options can quickly run through the roof. Realistically, a new 911 S that is reasonably optioned will be 150-200k after sales tax.
I can’t believe they forced you to buy the maintenance plan 🤦🏻♂️
Bought one and was given one, so it almost evened out. We'll see how pre-paying for year 2 maintenance pays off in the long run.
Dang when did porsche dealerships turn into trashy Ferrari dealerships
It seems to me I would have to kiss a** to spend lots of money on a product that I worked for many decades. Taking it to a dealership for maintenance is a markup itself. Imagine if all businesses did this! I'd say kiss my ass and purchase one privately.
I can only imagine what the maintenance cost difference is between the dealership and a private shop. I plan on purchasing a used GT4 in the future so many I'll do a maintenance cost comparison.
If you are a prospective customer looking to buy a new Porsche and you play these silly allocation games on base level 911's then you are a fool.
This type of stupidity and greed is usually reserved for the limited cars (RS cars, Speedsters, anniversary editions etc.)
Stop engaging in these stupid games, people. You are the customer. You are leading this transaction. They need you in order to have a successful business.
Get a clue.
S and GTS aren't base 911s. Depending on which dealer you talk to, the base 911 are some of the harder allocations to come by (outside of GT cars). However, I get your point that one would expect more of a challenge getting an allocation for a GT car and other ultra-limited trims. Nevertheless, the data highlights the supply and demand principles that many luxury brands use to develop their sales strategy.
Porsche delivered 50k 911s worldwide in 2023, which was 24% higher than the 2022 production numbers (see source 1). In the US, there were only 11k 911s produced (see source 2). Based on that data, it appears there are far more 911 buyers than 911s coming off the production line. I'm sure there are at least 50K buyers in California alone who would want a new 911 (agnostic of the trim level). This is a strong indication that Porsche is leading these transactions and have plenty of buyer's that will keep them successful for another 76 years.
Source 1: newsroom.porsche.com/en/2024/company/porsche-deliveries-2023-34942.html#:~:text=The%20Overseas%20and%20Emerging%20Markets,of%20deliveries%20was%20the%20Cayenne
Source 2: newsroom.porsche.com/en_US/2024/company/porsche-reports-US-retail-sales-for-2023.html
Simple, just keep buying 911s, I started 911 4s, throw in couple cayennes and macan, after 7 cars I can get a GT3 😂
Sounds like life long brand loyalty to me lol
I’m sorry the 911 is over rated I just traded in my 911 for the new MB GT 2025 2 door not sure why u had to wait thats the game they play my 2022 911 was very boring and wasn’t better than M4 2023 good luck my taycan is quicker than the 911 not feeling them anymore good luck
Interesting perspective. I actually was looking at the MB GTR for a track toy but just couldn't get away from the Porsche brand. 911 is on the tame side in comparison to higher HP/torque benz and bimmers. Overall, I bought the 911 for what it was though. Still interesting in test driving for MB GTR for comparison though.
And I’m sorry I don’t race I love cars that look sexy and drive nice 911 to me aren’t sexy to me basically they all look alike and the inside boring and overrated and this another thing u get these guys who get a 2016 911 and pulls up on you and thinks his is just as fast as my brand 911 GTS I can’t do it I’m sorry no racing for me
Ok, getting an allocation on a limited run or GT car is one thing but this is just stupid
I wish there were another way to spec a 911 S
Jesus you got turned over on the dealer must haves they forced you in to buying be it the added specs or all the add on warranty packages just to secure a run of the mill 991. A 991s been treated as a special car is bonkers and a sure fire way to loose some serious money.
Luckily I was planning on getting most of those options like the extended fuel tank (which I'm so thankful for now)! I pre-paid for year 2 maintenance and they threw in a warranty package for free so it pretty much evened out. It's a 992, last of the non-hybrid 911s (for now), so it might age well.
Can’t believe you need “allocation” for a 911 S. Wow. Porsche needs to get off its high horse. That car is as interesting as a Camry TRD. I can’t believe people play these stupid games to buy a base Porsche. 100s of better cars out there for lot less that doesn’t require playing these dumb games with Porsche.
At the price point, you’re right, there are several other options. Not much experience with luxury or exotic brands to compare the buying experience, but I’m sure the used market is much more streamlined even for Porsche.
I agree there are cheaper cars with more features (i.e. horsepower). However, many if us have owned those cars. The 911 is a better investment in the long run as it will hold its value.
@@Maxrotor1cars are never an investment and that’s not even a good argument for why Porsche has scummy practices
@@Maxrotor1 if you want to invest, put the money elsewhere. cars are toys. If i am buying a toy, i want it to make me smile and scream like a child in excitement. I have driven many porsches, from base 4s , GTS, boxter to gt3 RS and GT4RS. not a single one made me laugh or feel excited. on the other hand one drive in a 458 or a 600LT was enough for me to buy the car on the spot. thats what a fun car is supposed to do to you. investment is a poor excuse to justify buying a porsche. There is not a single exciting element in any Porsches except 918 and carrera GT.
@@Therealtrump544I have a 992 GT3 (paid $50K adm) and 600LT. The 600LT is what makes me scream like a child!