Destiny, you're so wrong about this. I can easily debate you. Nobody can argue this shit like I can. The purpose of Jan 6th was to have Pence postpone the certification for ten days so we could verify these fraudulent ballots. None of you leftists can prove Biden won. None of these ballots can be traced back to where they came from. There were zero chains of custody. Jan 6th was NOT an insurrection. Literally, the face of the event ( Quanon Shaman) was released from jail thanks to tucker carlson releasing the videos of what actually happened. That's why they are hiding the 14000 hours of video. The more video that gets released, the more it destroys your made-up narrative!
Oh btw. I love that you get insanely triggered because conservatives know infinitely more than you. It's the reason you said you didn't want to debate Rob anymore. He destroyed you. Even the tankies destroy you. That's why you have to be ban heavy. You can't handle the fact that everyone knows you are dead wrong. You have serious issues with controlling your anger. You have serious issues with accepting you've been bested as well. This is why many people think you are getting some NGO money to push specific narratives. You don't fight to be right or to tell the truth. You fight for a narrative. More often than not it's the deep state narrative. Go ahead and scoff at "deep state". We both know it's there.
This whole came down to you saying: Trump didn't do anything illegal he just went against "the spirit". Well if it's a legal process in our electoral system and it was created before your grandfather was sperm, it seems to be in spirit.
Oh man! watching live right now! You are getting bodied so bad you brought in the worst lawyer on earth to back you up. OOOOOOOOh man this is pathetic.
@@nartali9683 no. That’s not his job. There are other institutions already in place that do that. Idk if you’re a conservative but do you really want a power like that in our government? You could have a whole corrupt government just throwing out votes! Do you really wanna give them THAT much power just to save Trump’s skin?
they need to make a word for people who agree with every condition but still disagree with the conclusion without explaining a missing factor. It shows that they don’t like negative conclusions purely out of bias and nothing else.
I think it is a point of something being necessary vs sufficient. They would argue that the arguments are not sufficient for proving the conclusion. The problem is that when you ask for the standard of what would be sufficient it is an impossible standard which they don't apply anywhere else.
@@greenfroggood2392 Whataboutism alert. Also no, I never claimed I listened to just one streamer. I look at multiple sources on both left and right side.
@@greenfroggood2392buddy all you've is out yourself as a sheep that blindly follows 1 source of information. We don't only use destiny as our one source of info. You may like to, but that's kinda cringe
This first guy was begging to get into the debate from YT chat then has trouble differentiating between an analogy and an accusation of racism against him. On behalf of Yt chatters - I apologize. This regarded individual does not represent the average YT chatter.
"if the vice president is able to use a loophole to overule a democratic election then i don't see why that's an issue" These people really are out here saying "trump didn't try to subvert democracy but even if he did I would have been okay with it"
My favorite part of that exchange is when the dude says "well if it's legal, then I don't see a problem with that", so Destiny just bans him. Lol Talk about not being able to engage with the conversation. Talk about bad faith. If you can't even argue against the answer, why ask the question?
Fun fact: my dad has been a die hard republican my whole life. Black republican, went to conventions, shook hands with governors, all of that. But he now considers himself an independent. He completely disagrees with the Republican Party supporting Trump. He’s 54 years old so it’s interesting to see that Trump didn’t melt everyone’s brains
I have to say people from other countries,still can’t understand how Joe got so many votes. You can understand with a new voting system would raise suspicion, it’s not like American elections have not been rigged in the past.
Its so INSANELY FUNNY that there are a FUCKTON of people, who say that they are not Trump supporters while defending him through the dumbest shit. Its kinda sus to me.
It was hard to believe when Destiny said he was not ready for the brain rot from the other side of the political aisle when it came to everything about Trump. No offense, but I don't see how that was even possible at this point. The brain rot has been going on four years plus now with no real sign of getting better.
This debate is going to be difficult because conservatives can just disregard reality and believe what ever they want. Facts are fake news and fake news is research. It's an impossible fortress to penetrate.
I can't deal with Trump supporters either, they're stuck in an alternative reality and there's nothing you can do, this lunatic fringe is tireless, inflexible, and can't be persuaded by reason or evidence, they believe that trump is a deity who can fix all the problems in the world with his magical fairy dust.
My dad just died of Alzheimer's disease two weeks ago. He had mostly physical symptoms (ie couldn't walk, had trouble controlling his muscles), which I did not know was a thing until I saw it. Anyways, I feel for you Destiny. It sucks.
@@razzle_dazzleThe thing that Destiny *rightly* points out is that when all he did was debate conservatives, he attracted tankies. It wasn’t until he started calling out communists and tankies that he ended up having issues with guys like Hasan and Vaush.
Only one party can demand "smaller government" while openly supporting Presidents overturning election results. You can't support a democracy and dictatorship at the same time.
"we're not a Democracy, we're a Republic", "Mob rule" "Tyranny of the Majority". Honestly, they may support Democracy aesthetically, but their arguments are heavily against it.
When Destiny was talking about how maga republicans construct their argument, it reminded me about how orcs in Warhammer 40 K build their machines. Now I’m just thinking about Republicans having orc accents.
Trumples have a para-social relationship with Trump. That's the problem and a perfect example of the cult of personality. We see the same craziness with people who defend their favourite streamers.
I was a trump supporter and his stance on Yemen and sadi deal was absolutely gross. people believe we all follow him through everything no I disagreed with him a lot but that's everyone. You should disagree with people and express that. Saying that people follow blindly and making a generalization fallacy makes you look crazy.b
@@ChaoticOrder883I don’t think you know what trumples are then lol. Because by definition you wouldn’t fall under that definition. He isn’t talking about you. He’s talking about people who follow him blindly. It’s not a “generalization fallacy” when you’re talking about a specific group of people who fall under the characteristic you’re using to describe them. Also funny how you made the statement that making generalizations makes you look crazy while you also made generalizations about black women in your previous comment lol. “If black women have such a hard problem with shit why do they always blame outwards not inwards? I mean the ghetto shit is annoying. Have you ever thought about that? Hood chicks are nasty. They treat people like garbage and act entitled” The hypocrisy is crazy lol
@@keys5595 it's hard to tell the difference. I voted trump and have been relentlessly attacked on it. So my assumption comes from a place where I am called names constantly. Trumple is a term that is constantly used on us
My grand grandma had her legs amputated because of complications from diabetes. She died two weeks later. I wasn't there to witness it but it's a grim story that goes around in my family. I think it's not the worst idea to try to convince your father to do something about it before it's too late.
@@Mr.ChadBased Projection is a type of defense mechanism or means of coping. People may use defense mechanisms and unconscious mental strategies to cope with stressful or anxiety-provoking thoughts and experiences. When someone unconsciously attributes their thoughts, feelings, or behaviors to another person, they are projecting. For example, every conservative who got suckered into worshiping a fat moron accuses liberals of being brainwashed sheep. In this example, the conservatives are projecting their unparalleled brainrot onto others.
Regarding "how did we get from Bush to Trump," I think part of the answer is in how both Ron Paul and Ross Perot got turned around by the right wing establishment. Trump completely bodied the Republican party's candidates which was, as far as Paul/Perot fans were concerned, absolutely deserved.
I think the never-trump Republicans, he ironically calls RINOs, are part of the missing pieces. But they’ll continue voting blue, until that embarrassment of a man/father/son/businessman/leader/grifter can’t run for POTUS anymore. 😊
I think the political propaganda surrounding Jan 6 is too heavy because literally Congress established that it wasn’t a resurrection but yet people still claim it is because political bias, msm projection, and political party members of the DNC continuously trying so hard to make the claim is so heavily that we see destiny showing real political bias washing a framework that features major narrative projection. He literally trying to pinpoint MAGA as a whole 50+% of the U.S. population that votes as some sort of cult which is basically a hypocritical argument to make. It’s hypocritical because you can make the same argument about democrat die hard supporters and any group that the political opposition of which claim to delegitimize any argument your political opposition might say. Literally destiny claimed Trump supporters are anti Vaxers… He pulled it out his ass which he admitted but he has a bad habit of making these arguments all to often without recognizing it. Jan 6 was proven not an insurrection and Congress chewed out all congressional members who claimed it was. Even arguments that it was are so politically driven that it’s painfully obvious. Then came the general stereotypes which destiny claims “all republicans make” which isn’t true. Last time I checked is that republicans usually keep to themselves and usually make as much of an intellectual reasoning as any other person to support their political beliefs. I want to say this as someone who speak with both sides of the political isle that constantly making these arguments and making claims as if their facts when there been no proper legal proceeding in courts no real proof of claims made and all investigations that came about involving any criminal actions against DJT was proven innocent. This bad minded argument that “we will find evidence, we just need more time” is the dumbest argument to argue to claim Trump guilty when they found 0 evidence and over 90% of the legal claims of law violations are business fines at worse which 9/10 usually would get a D class misdemeanor At worse. That’s just. The legal situation across over 145 indictments that were made over the 2 years. Legal proceeding for procedures of indictments require a specific amount of evidence but don’t need any solid evidence to make the case but 99% of indictments unless it’s murder would result in nothing happening to the person. Only when they have evidence will a court case be proceeded and charges will be presented forward which several DA’s have violated this procedure already. Destiny knows so little about the claims he makes outside claims made to look like informational claims that have been proven wrong simply out of aspect that it is very broad and not really saying much that which is already stated before. I’m sorry but claiming from point of political projection thinking one side is telling the truth over the other is the reason why democrats keep getting voted in because if anything the same DNC supporters claim those they oppose are cult followers meanwhile supporting democrats blindly over broad promises that never get delivered and always make excuses for short comings or playing blame games on the problems they caused. Historically speaking on policy government economic forms we see that the DNC doing this since before WW2… it is disturbing that it continued to this day and still people who don’t do research blindly believe any crap a politician says based on emotional outcry and I will say that MsM are just as bad. Both sides have their bad and good on the political field but democrats have proven exactly that in recent times.
@@brandonfreeman6517 Fox News (Hannity, Laura Ingram, Tucker Carlson) was pro-Trump for 4 years. Fox News was even sued by Dominion Voting because they were trying to help Trump lie about the election. I don't know about now, but Fox was the loudest megaphone for Trump in the world.
Destiny, Physician here. Don’t give recommendations to your dad about diabetes. The relative risk of hypoglycemia versus hyperglycemia in a patient being treated for type two diabetes is not as straightforward as you think it is. Yes, polyneuropathy is a long-term risk of diabetes that can have serious implications, but you can’t really compare it to the immediate risk of severe hypoglycemia (or even hyperglycemia for that matter). In terms of being a little hyperglycemic versus a little hypoglycemic in the short-term, I would prefer most of my patients be slightly hyperglycemic. This is because they are unlikely to have any function limiting symptoms (until their blood glucose gets ridiculously high). However, being even slightly hypoglycemic can make someone fairly disoriented and at increased risk for falls.
@@EremEdition Are you sure about that? Trump had over 60+ chances to prove election fraud in court, and lost all but one, and the case he did win wasn't even really related to election fraud. And in many of the cases he lost, the presiding judges were ones that he appointed.
@@bigguyonalittleadventure5673 Original numbers were just over 133 million registered. 155 million votes. There's incredible amounts of evidence proving fraud in every state. If you look for it, you will find the documented proof. Its overwhelmingly ignorant to keep saying nothing happened, and how you could be so confident on the subject as if you had eyes on every ballot? You can't prove it was fair, you're just trusting what your told. You can watch a hundred different videos right now of boxes being stuffed. You can see the investigations where they tracked cell phones going back and forth dozens of times to the boxes. You can see court cases all over the country where it's been proven. They literally just found 5000 ballots in AZ that were never counted. You can play dumb all you want but it's not going to feel good in the end, when you realize how much you've been taken advantage of. A victim of trusting corrupt politicians who sell you empty promises only to take your money and rights. How much are you okay with losing just to feel like you were never wrong in your decisions. Its not about Trump. Its about the truth.
Trump says something insane, people say he is insane. Conservatives: "how can you blame him for trying to coup the government! You guys created this monster!" Bro what the fuck is this reasoning, lol
Thinking Pence would overturn the election even if he could is so retarded. These guys should've just admitted that it was a poorly organized plan to raid the capital, if every republican in this country showed up to Washington, brought some of the billions of guns that they've stockpiled for an event like this, and they were all ready to actually die for their country then maybe things would be different.
My issue with the framing of it being an insurrection or not, and I say this as a non-American, is everyone denying that it is would NEVER be saying that if it succeeded. If it actually accomplished that people would be shouting from the rooftops that it was the day democracy was restored from a corrupt institution. We know this is the case because if you look into US history, that exact thing happened in the Battle for Liberty Place. "It wasn't what you think it is and it wasn't so bad" is the fallback when you fail.
They'll ignore that like they ignore everything else. If nothing happened they'd be gloating about how conservatives don't get upset when their guy loses. These aren't principled people.
What do you think would have happened if they succeeded? What do you think there final goal was? How could a small group of minimally armed people pose any legit threat to the United States gov?
@@Reggieeeeeeee322 It was effectively a colour revolution, by definition. Since the goal was to restore democracy as they genuinely believed the election had been stolen. Jan 6 was the thing groups like Wagner's disinformation service wanted. But ultimately it was a wet fart, everyone just went home. All it really showed is that the American people have no real stomach to fight. That they say they want a civil war, but they don't want to be the ones to fight it, they want other people to do it.
First guy: >Only voting to hopefully accelerate economic collapse for personal gain >Somehow still passionate enough about politics to argue about it with a streamer What a strange time to live in. Trump really broke our populace.
1:03:22 / 1:03:30 LMAO that’s like dropping a murder trial because a murderer said “hey guys it wasn’t me, trust me. And actually the cop who arrested me is the murderer”
I had to skip the entire Alzheimer's conversation. My dad has advanced Lewy Body Dementia and I'm his primary caregiver. He is 60, and I'm 28. I only see glimpses of my father every now and then. Everything else is just someone breaking with reality completely. Some diseases are so horrific that death seems like winning the lottery. If I'm ever diagnosed, I'm going to Switzerland. I want to leave this World with dignity. Dementia is the most horrifying thing I have ever seen. (Oh and even in advanced Dementia, my Dad still hates Trump's guts)
Friend, I’m sorry you’re going through this. Indeed, dementia is 1 of the worst things. Try to have compassion for your father & understand that he’s still there, just suffering an illness that has changed him. I believe that the love & kindness you give him is still recognized, not only by him, but by the universe/ God/ karma, or whatever force is greater than us. If you feel you are predisposed to early onset Alzheimer’s I suggest looking into neuro protective measures & longevity. I’m a neuro, and the reason most attempts at “cures” have failed is because neurodegenerative disease is complex & happens over time as a series of micro-injuries occur. In my view, it’s far more likely that we’ll have neuro-protective compounds (a bit like sunscreen, but for your brain) that can delay neurodegenerative illness if you start them at age 35, than a “cure.” Some people think that SSRIs can be neuro protective, but almost all of us agreed on fish oil & everything that lowers inflammation.
Destiny - I’m a 48 year old GOP member. I’ve been very active in the party since 1994 (worked at Texas GOP, on Bush’s Governor campaign and Hutchisons Senate Campaign among others). I was there at the front lines when things started changing (Republican Revolution). I voted for Trump in 2016 because I just didn’t know all the bad stuff about Trump until 2018. I turned on him hard. I don’t think I can ever go back to the GQP. Happy to talk. I even live in Miami!
Imagine thinking that objection to certifying an election that entailed a party-funded network of illegal ballot harvesting and vote coaxing on a mass scale was somehow 'a threat to democracy' or an 'insurrection' And the (hashtag bunkerbaby) White House arsonfest was applauded as a 'patriotic protest' And a 'collusion' story fabricated by the opposition party to sabotage a Presidential term and attempt a political soft coup was 'just politics' What a cult
The best counter to "Trumps Speech", is that Ray Eeps and crew had already breached the Capitol Gates, while Trump was still on stage giving his speech for another 15 minutes.
@@lakeeffectmusicable people calling it the "light" as if it's some black and white good vs evil. When the left always has this ability to either A: tear itself apart by going after the moderatea in the party and going with feeling politics. Or B: having no understanding of economics yet claiming that everything is the fault of America in the world. To have someone like destiny who I don't agree with all the time but he has facts and actual logic behind his arguments, even if sometimes I take issue with how he says it.
I have a lot of respect for you and your point of view on most things, but you can be really insulting when you assume everyone who votes for trump believes in every conspiracy theory ever presented.
Trump ran on putting Americans first. That meant protecting our borders, (which Chicago and New York now oddly supports), taking the money we were funding the UN with and putting it into the u.s. economy, and charging china the same they charge us for with the import/ exports. There are crazy people on both sides of this debate, but I've personally spoke with several extreme liberals while I've only seen the qanon trumpers on youtube...
I mean, statistically they are a bunch of conspiracy-nuts and they are gonna believe more than one. Not believing in climate change is a given. Not believing in vaccines is statistically significant. The "big lie" is basically his campaign platform at this point. And I would guess every moon landing conspiracy theorist is a trumper.
@@Spencerwalker21 I mean... we have a better republican candidate already. Stacked up against anyone still running at this point, on either side, Nikki Haley's a pretty good option. She's not so far off the deep end trying to get "i'm a good person" points by telling people that minors should be allowed to go through gender transition surgeries/medication while also not saying that trans people are all 100% bad regardless of their individual beliefs or actions. Which is a pretty crazy stance for either side these days when being Transgender has gone from a Tumblr fad into a full blown nationwide fad... also not so off the deep end that she's saying we need to just pull out of ukraine or some shit despite that apparently being the democratic party's thing that republicans aren't allowed to agree with. married to a military vet, served as a state governor and the ambassador to the UN... it's just a shame that there's a big fucking chance she's going to get knocked off the ballot by trump just so our fucking real life marvel cinematic universe can have Trump V Biden round 2. I think Haley getting into office and just being another like... actual president without a ton of baggage or fuck ups... could be a potential return to some semblance of sanity. at least for federal politics.
I think the biggest problem for the American right in the future is republicans have to stop letting the fringe maga cultists represent them. It's hard to take political arguments seriously from a man swatting at invisible owls while ranting about lizard people transing kids.
I'm on the left but can empathize with people that simply want lower taxes and smaller government and are tired of having to hear conspiracies non stop for the last decade.
@@sadboat1657 trump is a passive dictator. If someone hands him power he would take it, but actively enacting martial law is probably something he wouldn’t do. What a dog shit idea from your relative tho.
I am a fan of Destiny, but absolutely disappointed after this. He sounds like a petulant child on a tantrum. He immediately goes to ad hominem attacks. He lost both arguments with the 2nd and 3rd guest. Dude was acting like the hypocritical whatever podcast host. Accusing others from switching topics yet he does the same many times! The last point from the third guest was that if it is an allowed option for the VP, then there were logical reasoning for allowing those options by the founders and gov before. His argument was that he agrees with the "option" to exercise that right, not that he agrees with actually doing it. Destiny was so delusional to even comprehend that. Never put these political pundits on a pedestal, they are fallible and stupid at times like any other. This reminds me of that time when Martin Shkreli shuts Destiny up on one of the earlier debates. Also, the Destiny discord are absolute echo chamber d riders.
Unrelated to the "conservative" Trumper debates. It is funny when Destiny approaches some debates so cool, calm, and collected, but other topics such as this just get him so fired up. Love it! Keep up the good content!
He's fired up because he actually does have TDS. The very mention of Trump triggers the fuck out of him and makes him soy out. He's actually deranged when it comes to Trump-related politics. The dissonance is super strong and obvious.
I completely get this. A conversation in a group of people i want to impress will be calm and reasoned with jokes put in. If its with just friends at a bar its screaming r3t4rd at them
Tbh that trump guy was at no point saying that Trump was acting in good faith, or that jan 6 wasnt an insurrection, he was just mad at how the oposition created that monster. Factually he didnt even disagree but Destiny saw him as the strawman avarage Trump fan and couldnt realise in time that it wasnt even the case
Kinda feel bad for that first guy who called in. Clearly a lack of education and critical thinking. Reminds me of the callers David Pakman sometimes gets
I used to have a hard time watching these Destiny streams but now I find them very enjoyable. He's a bright guy, which I appreciate more than whether he is aligned with me politically (he mostly is but not all the way).
I 100% agree with destiny and his argumentation and thought process is bulletproof, but I really think his best debate performances come when he is calmly dispatching arguments and matching the other persons tone. That avoids the dynamic where the person debating with him gets super defensive and stops incriminating themselves on all the points because they’ve clammed up.
While I agree with you. This wasn’t a “debate stream.” It was pretty clear this was a case of wanting to shut down a lot of stupidity going on in chat during a research stream.
I really am impressed by the depth of Destiny's knowledge on such a wide variety of topics. It's insane. If he wasn't doing this he could have made a brilliant lawyer had he chosen that route.
What are you talking about? All he does is google stuff and have people feed him talking points. Get him on an irl debate without a phone and see what happens..
to answer destiny’s question about Type 1 becoming resistant to insulin, yes you can become resistant and then you have to shift around to different types of insulin (if you’re not allergic). I don’t know how common it is, but I do have several first hand accounts of it being real and diagnosed via lab tests.
I personally am really interested in the political paradigm shift of Republicans over the past 15 years. Im sure it's a multitude of things overall, but i do wonder what the big events were besides covid and maybe the 2008 financial crash that caused the "shift" or was it a mass accumulated amount of small things.
That's a good question, and doesn't have a really easy answer unfortunately. Being from a hardcore Republican area, my family and friends are all very very conservative, I've known a lot of qanon folks. From what I've seen, the majority of Republican stances are based upon fighting the "progress" that they perceived as genuinely bad for the country. Bush wasn't loved here, but he wasn't hated by any margin. When Obama came in he did a lot of how should we say, underhanded policy making via executive orders. Michelle got involved in schools, changed how our children ate, but sent her precious kids to places where their meals were very nice. They saw the housing market fail, and both parties bailed out banks while people were going homeless in droves. My area was messed up under the opioid crisis, they saw lawmakers supporting the drug companies pushing that. They saw illegals starting to come in caravans thousands of people deep passing into Texas while cities far from the borders said they should be let in without any vetting or anything at all. I really can go on and on. Then the Hillary and trump bit happened, Hillary told them they were deplorable. They saw her commit a crime and get away with it. They saw all the crap that the left just waved away, and there was trump... A lifelong ny democrat that turned against the left. He said he'd fix it and he wouldn't be nice to those that have been treating the right like scumwater. I distinctly remember the calls for another Sherman's march on the south during that election, the left hated Southern people. As time went on the left got busted paying for the steel dosier, which invalidated 100% of any Russian involvement with Trump in their eyes. It's not like they have anywhere else to go, the left has determined that the right is every "ist" and "phobe" possible and have no empathy.
Ive had some thoughts about this. Because of the constant push to discredit MSM and push alternative opinions people were primed for the failure of communication with cvd. When the newest theories or broad statements were made about cvd there was a willing ignirance to how things are communicated colloqually v by scientists. I.e "theres no evidence masks work" turned into "we recommend mask wearing" made people thibk there was a switch of stance by the experts when they just learned about the mask effectiveness because they had no prior evidence it worked. That has lead to this idea that anything said by experts or MSM can be wrong, is a lie or is masking some neferious thing and in reality these people are just paranoid and reading into things with simple explanations
Since the core of the right wing is individualism, it's just a steady spiral of trying to get closer to that core, especially as it becomes more and more clearer how little right wing politicians actually care about that core. It shows how bad the situation has been, because Trump is considered by many on the right to be the closest thing to an actual right winger we've had in years. And Trump isn't even right wing, he's a Business Democrat from the 1990s that got left behind when the Overton window began hard shifting to the left.
It's always been there. Their irrational hate for Bill Clinton, hatred for the Muslim world post-9/11, etc. Nothing really explains the mobilization of their hatred as well as the Tea Party movement that was organized around their hatred for the first Black President. Recall that every Republican in Congress at the time repeated Rush Limbaugh's mantra that he hoped Obama would fail as President. Modern Conservatives have always hated America.
53:06 if you’re doing a RUclips “series” on something, the first video on the subject will always get the most views. Viewership will fall off as more people feel they’ve already gotten the gist and fewer hardcore viewers have curiosity to satisfy
It just bothers me that people like Steven have more empathy for drug dealers in jail than with the J6 guys. I don't care If he wants to keep his TDS takes of "coup attempt" and call Trump a fascist, he's a Democrat operative in the end of the day and would say so even If he didn't believe in It just to strengthen the party, my issue Is the lack of empathy to normal people, most of them with no criminal record, getting decades in jail for rioting at a public building, something that happened in mass during the 2020 riots with little to no consequence. I don't get why these people are "the ultimate evil in the world" and "the greatest threat to democracy" but somehow drug dealers and other criminals are "victims of an unfair and systemic persecution promoted by the state" and their imprisonment is "a product of systemic racism", that's when the entire liberal worldview start crumbling in my opinion. It seems as your entire thing is to, like Elon Musk puts, "look" good and righteous instead of actually "being" good and righteous. To conclude, I'm fine with Steven calling his political adversaries Satan, that's a part of the game, but applying that to people being crushed by the state just for believing in Trump is disgusting and evil, and he should reconsider this position If he wants to keep projecting this fake image of being the "resonable and fair" democrat who fights the "madness of the evil progressives". People will quickly see through the mask as soon as they heaar the disdain he has for these poor bastards.
I'm glad to see that Trump actually insighted an insurrection., and a coup. I know that Destiny will never see this, but this and other videos of his have shown me that Trump is indeed guilty, despite what he says. I used to be caught inside the madness of Trump world. Was not exactly a conservative, but was presented with extreme leftism which made me think the left was going insane, although you could say the same for the right as well. Destiny may not have thought that this would not convince anyone, but it did. Thank you for doing this.
Most Republican voters have some part Libertarian in their philosophy. It is not that crazy for them to eventually elect an orange pulsating middle finger to an ever-expanding government...
Libertarians still believe in the democratic process and some form of (small) government. The people that did January 6th at the behest of the presidency were attacking one of the cornerstone processes of American democracy (the peaceful transfer of power from the former person to the new one.) Ain’t no way any self respecting libertarian supports that.
Im a type 1 diabetic, and an epileptic. I take two kinds of synthetic insulin, Humolog and Lantus, respectively. The lantus slowly releases or activates or whatever throughout the day and the humolog is what i dose as per needed at meals and to adjust my blood sugar when its high. Im 30 and i currently suffer from some neuropathy and it can really affect ones mental health, because its a slow process. My diet is really well regimented now, and the nueropathy i have is pretty much a result of my bad diet in my early 20s. Please please please hear me and fucking just take your meds and test your blood sugar *every time you eat* if you have diabetes 😓 Btw, Destiny is correct that its really alienating being grouped in with type 2s. Theres literally *no way* i couldve avoided the hereditary disease i have. For some reason, type 2 diabetes gets *all* the funding for r&d for new drugs or treatments too. Its really upsetting seeing ads for new drugs that make life easier for type 2 diabetics but not me. Also its really alienating too because the negative side effects of type 1 diabetes can also make you look malnourished too, and most people mistake that for you being healthy because they think diabetics are typically heavy. So there were years where i was suffering from ketosis regularly while having to seem fit for duty at my shitty dayjob
My sympathies. My mother was a type 1 diabetic as well and it was hard to stay regimented throughout an entire lifetime and, as you stated, the neuropathy definitely worsens things. I hope you continue to just do what you can to mitigate the effects of neuropathy as much as possible.
Type 1 here. I feel you brother. My Dr ruined my life when I was diagnosed ag 6 by telling me that I could continue eating a normal diet I just need to give insulin.... such a horrible mistake. If you haven't heard I really liked Lyumjev. It's one of the newer fast acting insulins that's faster than humalog
@TheGreatJ thankyou, it feels good to hear from another diabetic that was diagnosed so young, for me, it was 9. It a terrible disease. I hope we both live to see it cured. I heard of one guy who signed up for a diabetic drug study and actually left it with his diabetes having been cured. Can you imagine leaving some study, getting into your car and thinking, gosh, I don't have to walk into a pharmacy ever again..I won't need insulin ever again. Oof baboof man this has me feeling big feelings right now 🤦♀️
@Xenomorph6793 the best one I've heard is an artificial pancreas machine that will constantly monitor incoming nutrients and release insulin internally as a response. As of right now our Body has literally 0 beta cells that produce insulin, because our bodies own immune system attacked those said cells... so from what j understand recreating those cells is what we need
@Xenomorph6793 and yeah its such a silent disease. Like feeling like absolute garbage because I didn't give enough insulin after eating... or always feeling like tired because I feel low even though my blood sugar registers as like 120 or something... it's horrible
Hold on a sec. Some people do actually have tds in the same way some republicans, like Trump, had ods. Theres legit criticism to be made but some people are actually just “orange man bad”. Theres no critical thought. They couldnt even tell you a policy position they disagree with. To pretend thats not the case is disingenuous.
Exactly. Even though I watch him, Destiny absolutely has TDS though. Just watch his debate with Actual Justice Warrior. He'll defend anything that a piss poor president like Biden does even if it's objectively bad just because it means putting Biden above Trump. Although he's very smart and informative for most things, he just loses all rationality the moment he starts talking about Trump
Then you're talking to the wrong people who shouldn't be talking politics to begin with. You could literally say the same thing about any other politician. The problem is people like you need to stop acting like Trump is business as usual...he ain't. Trump is a completely different animal.
the reason we went for trump. is simple. the Democrats and the neocon establishment is exactly the same. we were tired of being lied to by both sides. so we tried something new. and it was absolutely hillarious.
A good way to handle these conversations when you are dragging people in from chat is to have a set list of factual questions that you ask at the start to establish how far down the conspiracy rabbit hole they are. Throw one out about Klaus Schwab, throw a question out about NATO, throw out a question about vaccines, throw out a question about flat earth, maybe a couple basic economics questions, etc. After getting thorough a list of 10-20 then go in on the specific question so that you can know if you are dealing with otherwise sane people who have had their mind poisoned on the particular issue or if you are dealing with or if they are a full conspiracy brained person. The first debate seemed like a full conspiracist while the second one seemed like someone who is just mind poisoned on the particular issue. With the full on conspiracist you can farm content to your heart's delight, but there is no chance of an actual breakthrough. With the second person the content will suck but you might be able to change their mind if you hit them with a good negative example.
@@YuriDSC ehmm no they have not? list me 5 big conspiracies that turned out true which isnt just "CIA bad". Flat earth is fake, vaccines are fine, klaus scwabb is just a weird rich dude etc
"how did they go from Bush to Trump?" i think it was as simple as progressivism stifling too many people imo. i got sucked down a massive conservative echo chamber because until 2016 i legitimately never heard people say "it's okay to be white" or "its ok to be a man" and the intersectional feminism stuff was way out of hand everywhere around me. i wasnt a fan of Trump, but even just listening to Milo, Paul Joseph Watson or Crowder unironically is kind of unhinged.
That could be. It's still really hard for me to understand how 35+ year old conservatives square their past beliefs with the modern era. Surely it can't be only dumb or mean people on the left?
Kinda a silly question how they went from Bush to Trump in 8 years... they didn't. They went to McCain who got blown out because most people saw Obama as being moderate and potentially unifying. Then they tried running Romney who was also seen as more moderate. Throughout Obama's second term, the general perception among conservatives was more progressive things got passed, race relations got worse, and conservatives were starting to be painted as "evil". Then the meme that is Trump captured a lot of the anger that people felt, and the memers themselves. The issue you are going to run into with a lot of conservatives is the use of the word "Insurrection." The textbook definition and the colloquial usage implies drastically different standards. There are certainly arguments the actions on Jan. 6th meet the textbook definition. Likewise, by the textbook definition, most of the rioters of the BLM stuff would be considered "insurrectionists". This is the issue that turns into "what-aboutisms." Much harder to argue Trump, by legal definition, "incited" because of how difficult the standard is. Combined with a lot of the prosecutions being so harsh by comparison, and the general feeling that the system is rigged, you're gonna get a lot of people defending it without being able to articulate why they feel the need. It's much bigger than Trump, but he has turned into a lynch pin that people are too emotionally attached to.
I think a lot of this spawned in part because of reactionary feelings to critiques. So, I'm in my early/mid 20s. I'm a pretty libertarian and progressive person. Falling on like the social libertarian/ semi hippie place. I grew up feeling proud to be American, despite any problems we had. I grew up happy and proud of the history of the South. Not the ideals of it, but the fact that this place of slavery, hate and oppression was growing up and out of it. At least that's how I felt as a youth. I never witnessed anyone using the N word derogatorily, outside of Black people saying it to each other, or people who had the pass and shit with their friends. I saw racist jokes, but never in a mean or derogatory way. But always a fun "I poke you and you poke me back" kind of way. I never felt the issues of political strife until the insertion of feminism, and from there, it sort of ballooned into an all consuming thing around 2017-2018. It went from barely any true debates that tried get to the bottom of an issue, like the statues and stuff, to being a wide spread, in your face shallow debate where everything was wrong and black and white and we all hated each other. Idk if I just don't remember it. I just remember being in 2016 and like the only class that we talked about Trump in was Civics. Like, and it wasn't even about his scandals. Just that he was the president and these were his policies and cabinet and shit. I watched and consumed a lot of antisjw content, but never saw it in my school in any meaningful way, until I got to college. And it really hit me like a ton of bricks. Professors and teachers seemed to crave the blood sports of shitting on our history and pride. It was a painful thing to see your peers look around, confused and awkward as they were forced to defend or hold a political position they clearly didn't know enough about, but were being forced to talk about and encouraged to be combative. I remember most clearly a debate on legalization of Weed. And how me and one girl disagreed with the premise that weed should be legal because it is non-addictive. And we were kind of painted that our political opinion was we were against weed and stuff. When our problem was that weed could be considered something that wasn't or couldn't be addictive. It was the stripping of all nuance from our opinions and views, and narrowing us down into a box we didn't fit inside. It felt that starting with like 2016-2018, the discourse was kinda shot and killed. At a level that couldn't be sustainable. And for me, this sparked when I would be my most politically aware from about 2018-2019 and 2021- mid 2023. Where my problem wasn't that I agreed with Trump, but that if I even slightly didn't align with one side or the other, they both would assign me to being evil or a problem. And ignore my opinions as evil, regardless of how much or how little we agreed on everything else but the main topic. I grew up consuming and thinking that the SJW/Woke stuff was something only NYC and CA would deal with. Only to be slapped by it and get riled up as everything I cared about was called a lie or evil. And wanted to be erased. My imperfect home of the South which was doing better, was beaten down yet again and I and a lot of people just lashed out at them, not caring if what we supported as a reaction was good or not. I never liked Trump. I never wanted him to be president. But I would defend him as a citizen when I felt he was being hated unfairly. Until it felt that even the thought that you didn't want Trump to be assassinated meant that you supported him enslaving Mexican babies. It was and in a lot of ways, still is this demonizing and insane. It is not a fun experience, or a healthy one when you are suddenly blindsided by everything you love being almost universally hated by the opposite political side. It makes you dig in with people you don't agree with, because they will accept you as different against the threat that wants us all to be wiped away. This is of course my own personal experience. But I feel it captures how a lot of people felt in that era. Where we were suddenly being beaten over the head, and reacted with the trap card, Trump. And now have to deal with the fact Trump is in play. And was too disruptive to the game.
@@DogsRSweet When you grow up getting told if you think america is imperfect that you therefore hate it, that hate is only going to grow. And I certainly haven't been given any reason to love it from any history or civics class. Modern politics hasn't either. This country is a sh'thole and whenever I talk to an open "patriot" they tend to believe in pretty hanous sh't, particularly about gay people.
OP resumed well the sentiment. As a foreigner I can't look at the BLM riots and say "that's ok" while there's jan 6 protesters still waiting judgement in jail. There's clearly a 2 tier system working here.
meanwhile... have they even seen the process of people having to go in front of congress because they got nominated for a top-level government agency position? Congress will pull your fucking facebook posts from decades ago and probably ask what your favorite position in the bedroom is.
Destiny reads a bunch of self affirming shit and says its hardcore work research not understanding his worldview blinds him from realizing any part of reality.
Destiny lmao I’m a huge fan but the caller around 2 hours kinda cornered you and you got triggered . You said Trump telling Pence to not certify results is evidence of a plan to over throw the government yet there was a lot of debate whether that would be legal legitimate means to halt election results. If Trump assumed it was legal to use the government to halt the results then that is not evidence of a plan to overthrow the government
I like how the second guy got Destiny to agree "Trump might not have done anything illegal." Then got kicked and banned immediately once Destiny realized he might have to try to defend stuff like use of executive orders as undemocratic but legal.
@@AnthonySuperCoder The legal theory Trump was relying on is a lot more complex than "VP gets to pick." The Eastman memos and how they would theoretically be used are available to read.
@AnthonySuperCoder Why would the constitution say, "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." And still somehow gun control laws exist.
This didn't happen. Destiny's argument was that something being legal doesn't mean it's good. The caller continually failed to address this point which is why he was banned. tbh I'm not even sure what you can do to avoid these kinds of mistakes if your reading comprehension is this bad.
@@La0bouchereIllegal things can be moral too, does that make arguing the legality of Trump's plans pointless? Destiny makes a few claims to the morality of Trump's actions specifically that he believes they aren't in accordance to the 'spirit of the constitution' which is fine to argue, but why kick someone for thinking they can be both legal and morally ok? They finally got to the root of the issue and Destiny is like "I'm done." The continuation of the argument would probably have gone through some legal but morally questionable actions presidents have taken in the past, some where Destiny would agree with and some oppose and it would have probably painted his whole argument in a way he didn't like I think he realized this and ended early. Now I might be wrong and he just got triggered by Trumples and rage quit, but idk.
He probably didn't say much because we're not talking about Democrats right now we're talking about Republicans. But on that note, in the years following Obama's presidency Bernie Sanders had two runs where despite losing he managed to shift the Democratic party leftwards. When you put all that in the perspective it's very surprising (to some) that a milk toast/status quo democrat wound up winning. This is definitely nowhere near as night and day as Bush versus Trump.
@@TrikWestion hey at least Trump didn't start any wars which Bush did. Exactly which policies from Trump were extremely "right wing"? The Overton window shifted so far, Trump has never even been "far right" or really right wing. Trumps talking points are literally CLINTONS talking points from the 90s.
Okay im not gonna say your dad knows what he's talking about, because he shouldnt have numb toes and fingers for years if he were managing his diabetes properly. However, he is absolutely spot on about becoming dependent on insulin. What diabetes 2 actually is, is a resistance or "tolerance" to insulin. You need more insulin than you can produce naturally to get rid of your blood sugar. This is why external insulin is provided. However, once you introduce external insulin, you raise your tolerance *even further beyond the levels your body can naturally produce.* This is why, over time, ESPECIALLY without changing diet and exercise, people who get on insulin will need to steadily increase their dosage over time. Ideally, what you want to do is decrease insulin sensitivity over time. The keto diet sounds like a good idea at first glance, because you reduce your glucose down to levels where your body doesnt produce insulin. However, its dangerous for a diabetic who is at high risk of going into ketoacidosis because insulin floats around their bloodstream for a looong time. Personally, im a proponent of an intermittent fasting schedule that gradually decreases your eating window from 10 hours a day, to one meal a day over the course of a year. Its a safe way to gradually reduce the amount of insulin your body makes, thereby lowering your tolerance over time as well.
This is the first time I've seen Destiny abandon his usual ability to see how other people might view things. There is a lot of grey area between completely monk like rational thought and complete delusion. Trump definitely has a persecution complex and to compare what he faced during his presidency to Hillary is laughable. Even with what she faced (which I would argue is a fraction of the attack) she showed signs of cracking. And how dare you make me defend Trump...
"how do you go from bush to trump" - easy - winning culture is appealing if you identify as a conservative. and since the 90's conservatives became entirely irrelevant. nobody would be honest even if you ask old people. infact, the old people will cope more because it looks bad the longer you've been a conservative. the "alt right" happily admits that a big part of the appeal is the memes and him 'triggering the left'. you're giving old people too much credit. people are just happy their side got some traction. that's why initially they themselves hated trump but changed gear the moment he was able to "own" his opponents in the meme debates in terms of favorability too.
Excuse me but wasn’t there like 18 convictions of trumps closest associates regarding russia and the elections? He just stayed far enough away. He was colluding with Russia during his presidency right in front of us. Our American minds are so small. We can’t remember Tuesday.
Even if you were dependent on insulin-which your body is dependent on a lot of things and to specifically pick out insulin seems pretty ridiculous-to think losing your extremities is somehow an alternative is beyond insane.
Destiny doesn't relate to the less unfortunate. I think regular people are feeling a financial crisis when it comes to food. The dollar store is now the 1.25 store . most people haven't experienced a 25% increase in wage. if you live in a food desert. fast food menus have increased at the same price, and you get smaller portions.
1:56:23 Destiny, you are being such a disingenuous person in 2021 congressional hearing established that Trump was exonerated from being accountable for the insurrection of January 6 later, on that year, the same hearing establish that the labeling of a insurrection is a dishonest and dis genuine title, to label the actual Situation that occurred on January 6. As for the Evans that show that there were literal police officers, allowing in basically guiding people down the hallway that were participating in the actual riot. If you wanna label it, as such, which I know, you wanna label as an insurrection, or even attempt as an insurrection, which is redundant to what an insurrection is, which you were even called out upon. I’m sorry the fact hurt your feelings destiny in your opinion about Dj Trump and I know that there’s a lot of people that hate the guy understand if you don’t like the guy in the way he carries himself in his rhetoric but the talking points that you try to perpetuate and then you go and say that All conservatives value only that which fits their narrative on news reporting and all our stuff. Meanwhile you do the same exact shit you’re projecting conservers are doing. Where is the line that you’re willing to draw in order to hold yourself accountable to the same standard, that you’re trying to project your political Opponent to be destiny? Even within the 14th amendment, it said clear as day that you have to be convicted of a criminal crime on a federal level in order to be barred from the actual ballot in the running for president. To be more precise, it any garment figure within both state and federal, which means, governor, senators, congress members, etc. I want to mention just a couple more things involving the police officers who were guiding people through the halls and allowing people into the actual capital building that day and how you’re claiming that. Oh that’s just a single police officer, well, there were way more than just one single police officer, allowing people into the building. All the front entrance to the building was blocked and the police officers were trying their best to force the doors to remain shut and closed, on the other side of the building on the other entrance there were police officers that openly allowed people into the building, all at the same time and it wasn’t a scenario based off of time last time last time left like you’re trying to project. They were all happening at the same time because were people trying to force their way into the building which were blockaded by the same police on the other side they were police as well Who were allowing people in. There’s more than just a single video as well to back this up being that there are security surveillance footage that just recently been released not only in 2021 but just recently in 2023 showing that they were peaceful, cooperative, and even being guided by police officers there was a single guy with a Buffalo head who is being guided, not one or two police officers but over seven of them. There were a massive group that was being guided around the building by several police officer officers. The fact that you’re unwilling to listen to a different standpoint on the position of the actual case that’s been going on since 2021 shows your intolerance to listen to other ideas you’re in compatibility to even think that there’s possibly something that is proven wrong on your side of the Plainfield in your unwilling to give any Footage because in your mind, this is a political battlefield and you have to always be the winner in this argument destiny and that’s one of the key reasons why things blow up in your face people who are Republicans and Trump supports in all of that as well as classical liberals look at what you say and call you out all the time because you act Partisan. You don’t act fair. You don’t hold yourself to the same accountability and consideration on the quality of the information that you are trying to project our word and I’m gonna tell you this right now that you literally try to defame a reputable journalist, such as temple, as being a unreasonable in an actor source when temp pool for the past 5 to 10 years have been proven to actually be one of the most accurate journalist, even if it was just a RUclips channel but more importantly, his own website shows an accuracy rating of 90% in accuracy rating was committed by the actual national board of journalistic and Terry, which means that they hold biases no political motives when establishing how accurate the journalism is Based on the quality of the journals in itself in the accuracy. That’s another male in your foot for you Destiny. Lastly, you’re so trigger-happy on trying to devalue anyone’s argument that differs from yours that might paint Donald Trump as innocent and you automatically go on the trigger happy accusation that they must be a Maga cultus Trump supporter some bullshit like you did in this video. You act as much of a degenerate , leftist, Woki, deranged, Trump, hating lunatic when you act like this. One less thing is that Nancy Pelosi absolutely has authority involving the National Guard to a certain degree, and so do a lot of major authority figures within the DNC as well, and they did ordered the National Guard to stand down during the active event of January 6. It’s been proven it’s been established. You cannot declaim that and try to belittle that now because that was a clear evident situation that actually happened and it very much well have been, something that made things worse in the whole entire scheme of things involving that incident. Doe Trump had actual video footage, published out to people on mainstream media, pleading for people to go home and to stop the writing. Stop this violent acts of protest, and even pleaded for the national guard to step in and do something in the National Guard said that is no longer your jurisdiction to be able to order us what to do and that’s because Nancy Pelosi, which was the head of the house at that point had authority over the National Guard at that point. You can’t just sit here and deny deny deny all the information to put onto the table when he doesn’t meet your expectations of information destiny and I’m sorry, but I’m disappointed in you because I’ve been watching you for years and I’m gonna admit it. I am more right leaning, but I’m not gonna let you shape my worldview alone, and if anyone here tries to shape the worldview based on what you think, then I think they have a very shallow mindset of how the whole entire country works.
Destiny FINALLY Brings Out Nebraska Steve Against Conservatives For ONE NIGHT ONLY
►ruclips.net/video/VBTguu10bII/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Destiny, you're so wrong about this. I can easily debate you. Nobody can argue this shit like I can. The purpose of Jan 6th was to have Pence postpone the certification for ten days so we could verify these fraudulent ballots. None of you leftists can prove Biden won. None of these ballots can be traced back to where they came from. There were zero chains of custody. Jan 6th was NOT an insurrection. Literally, the face of the event ( Quanon Shaman) was released from jail thanks to tucker carlson releasing the videos of what actually happened. That's why they are hiding the 14000 hours of video. The more video that gets released, the more it destroys your made-up narrative!
Oh btw. I love that you get insanely triggered because conservatives know infinitely more than you. It's the reason you said you didn't want to debate Rob anymore. He destroyed you. Even the tankies destroy you. That's why you have to be ban heavy. You can't handle the fact that everyone knows you are dead wrong. You have serious issues with controlling your anger. You have serious issues with accepting you've been bested as well. This is why many people think you are getting some NGO money to push specific narratives. You don't fight to be right or to tell the truth. You fight for a narrative. More often than not it's the deep state narrative. Go ahead and scoff at "deep state". We both know it's there.
This whole came down to you saying: Trump didn't do anything illegal he just went against "the spirit". Well if it's a legal process in our electoral system and it was created before your grandfather was sperm, it seems to be in spirit.
They "clarified the law" lmfaooooooo! Oh my god copying CNN reporters. No they changed it because it was 100% legal.
Oh man! watching live right now! You are getting bodied so bad you brought in the worst lawyer on earth to back you up. OOOOOOOOh man this is pathetic.
"there were 3 other options on stage... Cruz... Rubio... Kasich"
Jeb Bush, silently died a little bit more today.
If I'm remembering his energy on stage correctly, Jeb seemed full deceased before he ran.
Please clap.
@@dfmrcv862👏🏾
It's ok, he was too busy hiding in Jenny Nicoll's stuffed toy (not sure who's going to get that reference).
Please clap.
Conservatives going from hating big government to “the Vice President of the United States should be allowed to overturn the results of an election”
It was allowed before they made the changes to make it so the VP couldn't do it after Biden came into office.
Remember when FBI fabricated results to do the same thing. Libshits always on one.
If there is faul play he should.
@@nartali9683 no. That’s not his job. There are other institutions already in place that do that.
Idk if you’re a conservative but do you really want a power like that in our government? You could have a whole corrupt government just throwing out votes!
Do you really wanna give them THAT much power just to save Trump’s skin?
@@nartali9683 But there wasn't so it's a moot point.
Destiny's Dad: My fingers and toes have been numb for years
Destiny: Okay, anything else?
It was definitely a set up to imprison the many maga revolutionaries
...gotcha
Love you, be careful
Destinys response is to not even bother to read up on type two diabetes.
I'm speechless. Just how disconnected is he?
@@Mrraeraewait this is a meme right
they need to make a word for people who agree with every condition but still disagree with the conclusion without explaining a missing factor. It shows that they don’t like negative conclusions purely out of bias and nothing else.
professional contrarian?
Patrick's Wallet Syndrome
I agree.. Lefties are notorious for that..
They do. It’s called cope.
I think it is a point of something being necessary vs sufficient. They would argue that the arguments are not sufficient for proving the conclusion. The problem is that when you ask for the standard of what would be sufficient it is an impossible standard which they don't apply anywhere else.
I’ll never get over the fact that conservatives say they don’t listen to mainstream media, while listening to Fox News.
Old heads and boomers are the conservatives watching fox
You listen to some curated youtube streamer that is a glorified googler. Why do you claim to be better?
@@greenfroggood2392 Whataboutism alert. Also no, I never claimed I listened to just one streamer. I look at multiple sources on both left and right side.
@@greenfroggood2392buddy all you've is out yourself as a sheep that blindly follows 1 source of information. We don't only use destiny as our one source of info. You may like to, but that's kinda cringe
@@Mr.Coffee576 strawman. list your sources
ah, yes, that lets have a Jan 6 debate and 5 mins in we're talking about Hillary moment
Tale as old as time
It’s so annoying. Constantly trying to do the “he started it mom!” bullshit.
You're right. Let's not talk about the actual coup with Hillary and the deep state. Lol. Gtfo. Trump won and the evidence is overwhelming!
Hillary should be in prison for getting US soldiers killed on purpose.
You guys think that Hillary and the russiagate hoax are irrelevant to the discussion of what happened on January 6th?
This first guy was begging to get into the debate from YT chat then has trouble differentiating between an analogy and an accusation of racism against him. On behalf of Yt chatters - I apologize. This regarded individual does not represent the average YT chatter.
You are probably the smartest YT chatter, let's face it the only reason it's not the worst chat is because Kick chat now exists.
Most yt chatters are dumbfucks and im a yt chattwr myself
Naw he definitely represents the average yt destiny fan
@@nunuzak these dummies really giving chatters a bad name 😢
The first guy actually hit Rank 1 YT chatter last season so he definitely has some credibility
"if the vice president is able to use a loophole to overule a democratic election then i don't see why that's an issue"
These people really are out here saying "trump didn't try to subvert democracy but even if he did I would have been okay with it"
He doesn’t believe that tho, he was just coping. If Obama tried to make that same esoteric legal argument, there is no way he’d have the same attitude
It's coping 101 - "you're wrong the bad thing didn't happen, but if it did it's fine that it happened."
I mean that’s really the only reason I don’t like DACA. Go through the legislation not the executive.
My favorite part of that exchange is when the dude says "well if it's legal, then I don't see a problem with that", so Destiny just bans him. Lol
Talk about not being able to engage with the conversation. Talk about bad faith.
If you can't even argue against the answer, why ask the question?
@@kevinwalter2674what about the beginning and middle of the debate where destiny engaged with everything and the other guy kept coping?
Fun fact: my dad has been a die hard republican my whole life. Black republican, went to conventions, shook hands with governors, all of that. But he now considers himself an independent. He completely disagrees with the Republican Party supporting Trump. He’s 54 years old so it’s interesting to see that Trump didn’t melt everyone’s brains
@@dieselbabyi did
melt everyone's brains? Trump has that power?
@@dieselbabycope harder
ahahahaha seeing dieselbaby here is so funny
@@VesperGuy Is he a regular for other comment sections or some shit
It's hard listening to Trump supporters try to justify how he should've been able to overturn the election without having a cringe attack
In other words you’ve got nothing 😂
Imagine how Trump supporters felt about years of russian collusion lies you peddled. At least they have actual evidence, you had zero.
An election that entailed a party-funded network of illegal ballot harvesting and vote coaxing on a mass scale should have never been certified
I have to say people from other countries,still can’t understand how Joe got so many votes. You can understand with a new voting system would raise suspicion, it’s not like American elections have not been rigged in the past.
@@GFTCNJ do you?
Ah, I missed the heated conservative debates. Brings me those 2016-2017 Nebraska Steve vibes.
I like how conservatives immediately fall apart when you don't let them narrativize and force them to go through facts point by point.
@@TyCook-s1c ikrrrrrr like oh mah gawd
what would be the point to talk to deluded fools?
@@TyCook-s1c😂😂 💩
@@TyCook-s1care the people saying this in the room with us right now?
They literally haven't debunked anything. That election was definitely sus.
Its so INSANELY FUNNY that there are a FUCKTON of people, who say that they are not Trump supporters while defending him through the dumbest shit. Its kinda sus to me.
It was hard to believe when Destiny said he was not ready for the brain rot from the other side of the political aisle when it came to everything about Trump. No offense, but I don't see how that was even possible at this point. The brain rot has been going on four years plus now with no real sign of getting better.
This debate is going to be difficult because conservatives can just disregard reality and believe what ever they want. Facts are fake news and fake news is research. It's an impossible fortress to penetrate.
There is brain rot in both sides
@@TurtleChad1Clearly one much more than the other at this point.
I can't deal with Trump supporters either, they're stuck in an alternative reality and there's nothing you can do, this lunatic fringe is tireless, inflexible, and can't be persuaded by reason or evidence, they believe that trump is a deity who can fix all the problems in the world with his magical fairy dust.
@@TurtleChad1 sure, but that is not an admission that the left is willingly blind. thats just avoiding a direst responce :)
I know it will shorten Destinys lifespan but I just love when he goes on a conservative rant 1:17:18
Oh the part where he rambles off a bunch of factual information he's trying to dismiss because it crushes his dumb narrative?
Destiny suffering for our entertainment.
@@TheBruce571 "Destiny goes off on Republicans" by DGG4LIFE
@@TheBruce571what factual information did he dismiss at that time stamp
My dad just died of Alzheimer's disease two weeks ago. He had mostly physical symptoms (ie couldn't walk, had trouble controlling his muscles), which I did not know was a thing until I saw it. Anyways, I feel for you Destiny. It sucks.
I'm sorry for your loss, mate.
Do more of these Conservative discussions. Thank you!
Why you are too triggered to get your brain challenged?
Boy are you in for a treat when you discover Destiny's old content.
I just want to know how he connects Trump to the violence on j6. Thr man told the crowd to be peaceful when the go to the capital.
@@razzle_dazzleThe thing that Destiny *rightly* points out is that when all he did was debate conservatives, he attracted tankies. It wasn’t until he started calling out communists and tankies that he ended up having issues with guys like Hasan and Vaush.
@@Shadowbanned4LyfeHasn’t Destiny literally posted of his debates with Andrew into his channel?
Only one party can demand "smaller government" while openly supporting Presidents overturning election results. You can't support a democracy and dictatorship at the same time.
"we're not a Democracy, we're a Republic", "Mob rule" "Tyranny of the Majority".
Honestly, they may support Democracy aesthetically, but their arguments are heavily against it.
When Destiny was talking about how maga republicans construct their argument, it reminded me about how orcs in Warhammer 40 K build their machines. Now I’m just thinking about Republicans having orc accents.
They just build it shitty and hope with green magick
“I am only capable of viewing the world through the things I consoom”
Trumples have a para-social relationship with Trump. That's the problem and a perfect example of the cult of personality. We see the same craziness with people who defend their favourite streamers.
I was a trump supporter and his stance on Yemen and sadi deal was absolutely gross. people believe we all follow him through everything no I disagreed with him a lot but that's everyone. You should disagree with people and express that. Saying that people follow blindly and making a generalization fallacy makes you look crazy.b
Acting like that is what makes you that which you project onto others…
@@ChaoticOrder883I don’t think you know what trumples are then lol. Because by definition you wouldn’t fall under that definition. He isn’t talking about you. He’s talking about people who follow him blindly. It’s not a “generalization fallacy” when you’re talking about a specific group of people who fall under the characteristic you’re using to describe them.
Also funny how you made the statement that making generalizations makes you look crazy while you also made generalizations about black women in your previous comment lol.
“If black women have such a hard problem with shit why do they always blame outwards not inwards? I mean the ghetto shit is annoying. Have you ever thought about that? Hood chicks are nasty. They treat people like garbage and act entitled”
The hypocrisy is crazy lol
@@keys5595 it's hard to tell the difference. I voted trump and have been relentlessly attacked on it. So my assumption comes from a place where I am called names constantly. Trumple is a term that is constantly used on us
@@ChaoticOrder883whatever you say
My grand grandma had her legs amputated because of complications from diabetes. She died two weeks later. I wasn't there to witness it but it's a grim story that goes around in my family.
I think it's not the worst idea to try to convince your father to do something about it before it's too late.
Man these clowns defending jan 6 in the comments is crazy to me.
calm down red coat.
@@bobbob-vw4cccope
@@bobbob-vw4ccwe’re literally revolutionaries bro!
@@tarzanizcool cringe, please stop. lol
@@bobbob-vw4ccsays the person who went out of their way to download a trump photo for their PFP and goes around defending his honour😂😂
4:00 - trump isnt a traditional Republican. Thats why he won. Bush was so much worse than trump. People were sick of politicians.
Trump Supporters have to live in a diffrent reality at this point.
That’s what we think about yall
based on your world view and ideology, i would bet money you are the one disconnected and living in delusion. You know men can't get pregnant right?
@DomDanCam well when you conflate sex and gender like that, of course you come to that conclusion.
@@Mr.ChadBased Projection is a type of defense mechanism or means of coping. People may use defense mechanisms and unconscious mental strategies to cope with stressful or anxiety-provoking thoughts and experiences.
When someone unconsciously attributes their thoughts, feelings, or behaviors to another person, they are projecting. For example, every conservative who got suckered into worshiping a fat moron accuses liberals of being brainwashed sheep. In this example, the conservatives are projecting their unparalleled brainrot onto others.
@@DomDanCamyou know airports didn’t exist in the 1700s right? You know airplanes hadn’t been invented yet right?
Regarding "how did we get from Bush to Trump," I think part of the answer is in how both Ron Paul and Ross Perot got turned around by the right wing establishment. Trump completely bodied the Republican party's candidates which was, as far as Paul/Perot fans were concerned, absolutely deserved.
This is exactly correct. 👍 💯
I think the never-trump Republicans, he ironically calls RINOs, are part of the missing pieces. But they’ll continue voting blue, until that embarrassment of a man/father/son/businessman/leader/grifter can’t run for POTUS anymore. 😊
If Palin was the genesis to MAGA then it was inevitable, her type were always around and just needed an opportunity
I think the political propaganda surrounding Jan 6 is too heavy because literally Congress established that it wasn’t a resurrection but yet people still claim it is because political bias, msm projection, and political party members of the DNC continuously trying so hard to make the claim is so heavily that we see destiny showing real political bias washing a framework that features major narrative projection.
He literally trying to pinpoint MAGA as a whole 50+% of the U.S. population that votes as some sort of cult which is basically a hypocritical argument to make. It’s hypocritical because you can make the same argument about democrat die hard supporters and any group that the political opposition of which claim to delegitimize any argument your political opposition might say.
Literally destiny claimed Trump supporters are anti Vaxers…
He pulled it out his ass which he admitted but he has a bad habit of making these arguments all to often without recognizing it.
Jan 6 was proven not an insurrection and Congress chewed out all congressional members who claimed it was.
Even arguments that it was are so politically driven that it’s painfully obvious. Then came the general stereotypes which destiny claims “all republicans make” which isn’t true. Last time I checked is that republicans usually keep to themselves and usually make as much of an intellectual reasoning as any other person to support their political beliefs.
I want to say this as someone who speak with both sides of the political isle that constantly making these arguments and making claims as if their facts when there been no proper legal proceeding in courts no real proof of claims made and all investigations that came about involving any criminal actions against DJT was proven innocent. This bad minded argument that “we will find evidence, we just need more time” is the dumbest argument to argue to claim Trump guilty when they found 0 evidence and over 90% of the legal claims of law violations are business fines at worse which 9/10 usually would get a D class misdemeanor
At worse.
That’s just. The legal situation across over 145 indictments that were made over the 2 years.
Legal proceeding for procedures of indictments require a specific amount of evidence but don’t need any solid evidence to make the case but 99% of indictments unless it’s murder would result in nothing happening to the person. Only when they have evidence will a court case be proceeded and charges will be presented forward which several DA’s have violated this procedure already.
Destiny knows so little about the claims he makes outside claims made to look like informational claims that have been proven wrong simply out of aspect that it is very broad and not really saying much that which is already stated before.
I’m sorry but claiming from point of political projection thinking one side is telling the truth over the other is the reason why democrats keep getting voted in because if anything the same DNC supporters claim those they oppose are cult followers meanwhile supporting democrats blindly over broad promises that never get delivered and always make excuses for short comings or playing blame games on the problems they caused.
Historically speaking on policy government economic forms we see that the DNC doing this since before WW2… it is disturbing that it continued to this day and still people who don’t do research blindly believe any crap a politician says based on emotional outcry and I will say that MsM are just as bad.
Both sides have their bad and good on the political field but democrats have proven exactly that in recent times.
Plus 30 years of fox news
@@brandonfreeman6517 no I think 30 years of fox news brain worms laid the ground work for Trump. Just look up q anon supporters at Trump rallies
@@brandonfreeman6517my guy are you saying fox didn’t push maga in 2016? regardless of whatever it does today
@@brandonfreeman6517
Fox News (Hannity, Laura Ingram, Tucker Carlson) was pro-Trump for 4 years.
Fox News was even sued by Dominion Voting because they were trying to help Trump lie about the election. I don't know about now, but Fox was the loudest megaphone for Trump in the world.
Destiny,
Physician here. Don’t give recommendations to your dad about diabetes. The relative risk of hypoglycemia versus hyperglycemia in a patient being treated for type two diabetes is not as straightforward as you think it is. Yes, polyneuropathy is a long-term risk of diabetes that can have serious implications, but you can’t really compare it to the immediate risk of severe hypoglycemia (or even hyperglycemia for that matter).
In terms of being a little hyperglycemic versus a little hypoglycemic in the short-term, I would prefer most of my patients be slightly hyperglycemic. This is because they are unlikely to have any function limiting symptoms (until their blood glucose gets ridiculously high). However, being even slightly hypoglycemic can make someone fairly disoriented and at increased risk for falls.
Turkey Tom is the type of guy to say "yowza!" after eating a hot wing
“What evidence did Donald Trump have that the election was fake?”
“People were mean to him :(“
There's been election fraud cases won in every single state. Its more than your spoonfed nonsense you ignorantly regurgitate.
@@EremEdition Are you sure about that? Trump had over 60+ chances to prove election fraud in court, and lost all but one, and the case he did win wasn't even really related to election fraud. And in many of the cases he lost, the presiding judges were ones that he appointed.
He didn’t win. That’s he said it had to be fraudulent. Narcissism defined.
@@bigguyonalittleadventure5673 Original numbers were just over 133 million registered. 155 million votes. There's incredible amounts of evidence proving fraud in every state. If you look for it, you will find the documented proof. Its overwhelmingly ignorant to keep saying nothing happened, and how you could be so confident on the subject as if you had eyes on every ballot? You can't prove it was fair, you're just trusting what your told. You can watch a hundred different videos right now of boxes being stuffed. You can see the investigations where they tracked cell phones going back and forth dozens of times to the boxes. You can see court cases all over the country where it's been proven. They literally just found 5000 ballots in AZ that were never counted. You can play dumb all you want but it's not going to feel good in the end, when you realize how much you've been taken advantage of. A victim of trusting corrupt politicians who sell you empty promises only to take your money and rights. How much are you okay with losing just to feel like you were never wrong in your decisions. Its not about Trump. Its about the truth.
Trump says something insane, people say he is insane.
Conservatives: "how can you blame him for trying to coup the government! You guys created this monster!"
Bro what the fuck is this reasoning, lol
Pence should have overturned the election and given the presidency to Jeb!
Better than Biden by a lot
Jeb deserved to win 😢
@@Oxodiasehe will return on the slowest but most powerful turtle you've ever seen to take his rightful place in the White House.
Thinking Pence would overturn the election even if he could is so retarded. These guys should've just admitted that it was a poorly organized plan to raid the capital, if every republican in this country showed up to Washington, brought some of the billions of guns that they've stockpiled for an event like this, and they were all ready to actually die for their country then maybe things would be different.
@@danpascooch exactly as the prophecy foretold 🙏🏻
My issue with the framing of it being an insurrection or not, and I say this as a non-American, is everyone denying that it is would NEVER be saying that if it succeeded. If it actually accomplished that people would be shouting from the rooftops that it was the day democracy was restored from a corrupt institution. We know this is the case because if you look into US history, that exact thing happened in the Battle for Liberty Place. "It wasn't what you think it is and it wasn't so bad" is the fallback when you fail.
They'll ignore that like they ignore everything else. If nothing happened they'd be gloating about how conservatives don't get upset when their guy loses. These aren't principled people.
They weren't armed. Europoor trash opinion.
What do you think would have happened if they succeeded? What do you think there final goal was?
How could a small group of minimally armed people pose any legit threat to the United States gov?
@@Reggieeeeeeee322 It was effectively a colour revolution, by definition. Since the goal was to restore democracy as they genuinely believed the election had been stolen. Jan 6 was the thing groups like Wagner's disinformation service wanted. But ultimately it was a wet fart, everyone just went home.
All it really showed is that the American people have no real stomach to fight. That they say they want a civil war, but they don't want to be the ones to fight it, they want other people to do it.
First guy:
>Only voting to hopefully accelerate economic collapse for personal gain
>Somehow still passionate enough about politics to argue about it with a streamer
What a strange time to live in. Trump really broke our populace.
1:03:22 / 1:03:30 LMAO that’s like dropping a murder trial because a murderer said “hey guys it wasn’t me, trust me. And actually the cop who arrested me is the murderer”
Ah yes. Destiny playing the classics. Merry Christmas to all of us.
I had to skip the entire Alzheimer's conversation. My dad has advanced Lewy Body Dementia and I'm his primary caregiver. He is 60, and I'm 28. I only see glimpses of my father every now and then. Everything else is just someone breaking with reality completely. Some diseases are so horrific that death seems like winning the lottery. If I'm ever diagnosed, I'm going to Switzerland. I want to leave this World with dignity. Dementia is the most horrifying thing I have ever seen.
(Oh and even in advanced Dementia, my Dad still hates Trump's guts)
Friend, I’m sorry you’re going through this. Indeed, dementia is 1 of the worst things. Try to have compassion for your father & understand that he’s still there, just suffering an illness that has changed him. I believe that the love & kindness you give him is still recognized, not only by him, but by the universe/ God/ karma, or whatever force is greater than us.
If you feel you are predisposed to early onset Alzheimer’s I suggest looking into neuro protective measures & longevity. I’m a neuro, and the reason most attempts at “cures” have failed is because neurodegenerative disease is complex & happens over time as a series of micro-injuries occur. In my view, it’s far more likely that we’ll have neuro-protective compounds (a bit like sunscreen, but for your brain) that can delay neurodegenerative illness if you start them at age 35, than a “cure.” Some people think that SSRIs can be neuro protective, but almost all of us agreed on fish oil & everything that lowers inflammation.
@@scarletsletter4466 Thank you. It means more than you realize. I hope you have a wonderful day brother.
These Trumpers at this point are no different than flat earthers.
Dude c'mon
Flat earthers aren't nearly as unhinged as trump supporters
"Destinys dad dont believe in medicine anymore" Good one august
Destiny - I’m a 48 year old GOP member. I’ve been very active in the party since 1994 (worked at Texas GOP, on Bush’s Governor campaign and Hutchisons Senate Campaign among others). I was there at the front lines when things started changing (Republican Revolution). I voted for Trump in 2016 because I just didn’t know all the bad stuff about Trump until 2018. I turned on him hard. I don’t think I can ever go back to the GQP. Happy to talk. I even live in Miami!
Imagine thinking that objection to certifying an election that entailed a party-funded network of illegal ballot harvesting and vote coaxing on a mass scale was somehow 'a threat to democracy' or an 'insurrection'
And the (hashtag bunkerbaby) White House arsonfest was applauded as a 'patriotic protest'
And a 'collusion' story fabricated by the opposition party to sabotage a Presidential term and attempt a political soft coup was 'just politics'
What a cult
Imagine outing yourself as a RINO on the internet 😂
@@johannesstephanusroos4969 FR
Okay rino. Nice story.
Trump exposed the corruption in our government. You may not see it now but in years to come you will be thanking him for this.
The best counter to "Trumps Speech", is that Ray Eeps and crew had already breached the Capitol Gates, while Trump was still on stage giving his speech for another 15 minutes.
Shut up or he'll ban you
@@smiley4995
both are irrelevant trump still tried to undermine the election
I appreciate everything Destiny does with politics. He keeps me sane and on the left when I was on the path to becoming a conservative a while ago
Was there anything specific that steered you away from the light?
@@lakeeffectmusicable Reading your news instead of watching it is probably a good start
😅 the way you just openly said that is wild... predator child sniffing and hamas lovers is WILD to follow.
@@lakeeffectmusicable people calling it the "light" as if it's some black and white good vs evil. When the left always has this ability to either A: tear itself apart by going after the moderatea in the party and going with feeling politics. Or B: having no understanding of economics yet claiming that everything is the fault of America in the world. To have someone like destiny who I don't agree with all the time but he has facts and actual logic behind his arguments, even if sometimes I take issue with how he says it.
@lootbird you gave a complete Schizo post
I have a lot of respect for you and your point of view on most things, but you can be really insulting when you assume everyone who votes for trump believes in every conspiracy theory ever presented.
I mean Trump ran on conspiracy theories
Welp then better conservatives need to come forward but they're to busy voting for trump crying about BLM or perceived victimhood.
Trump ran on putting Americans first. That meant protecting our borders, (which Chicago and New York now oddly supports), taking the money we were funding the UN with and putting it into the u.s. economy, and charging china the same they charge us for with the import/ exports. There are crazy people on both sides of this debate, but I've personally spoke with several extreme liberals while I've only seen the qanon trumpers on youtube...
I mean, statistically they are a bunch of conspiracy-nuts and they are gonna believe more than one.
Not believing in climate change is a given. Not believing in vaccines is statistically significant. The "big lie" is basically his campaign platform at this point. And I would guess every moon landing conspiracy theorist is a trumper.
@@Spencerwalker21 I mean... we have a better republican candidate already. Stacked up against anyone still running at this point, on either side, Nikki Haley's a pretty good option. She's not so far off the deep end trying to get "i'm a good person" points by telling people that minors should be allowed to go through gender transition surgeries/medication while also not saying that trans people are all 100% bad regardless of their individual beliefs or actions. Which is a pretty crazy stance for either side these days when being Transgender has gone from a Tumblr fad into a full blown nationwide fad... also not so off the deep end that she's saying we need to just pull out of ukraine or some shit despite that apparently being the democratic party's thing that republicans aren't allowed to agree with. married to a military vet, served as a state governor and the ambassador to the UN... it's just a shame that there's a big fucking chance she's going to get knocked off the ballot by trump just so our fucking real life marvel cinematic universe can have Trump V Biden round 2.
I think Haley getting into office and just being another like... actual president without a ton of baggage or fuck ups... could be a potential return to some semblance of sanity. at least for federal politics.
As a conservative, these guys are off their rocker. Destiny owned them
I think the biggest problem for the American right in the future is republicans have to stop letting the fringe maga cultists represent them.
It's hard to take political arguments seriously from a man swatting at invisible owls while ranting about lizard people transing kids.
I'm on the left but can empathize with people that simply want lower taxes and smaller government and are tired of having to hear conspiracies non stop for the last decade.
@@jackeagleeye3453they say they want smaller government but also want trump as a somewhat dictator. Make it make sense.
@@akhnatenpage4854during covid, a relative of mine was convinced Trump was gonna enact martial law to "restore freedom"
@@sadboat1657 trump is a passive dictator. If someone hands him power he would take it, but actively enacting martial law is probably something he wouldn’t do. What a dog shit idea from your relative tho.
Funny how they’re still denying it was an insurrection 😂
I am a fan of Destiny, but absolutely disappointed after this. He sounds like a petulant child on a tantrum. He immediately goes to ad hominem attacks. He lost both arguments with the 2nd and 3rd guest. Dude was acting like the hypocritical whatever podcast host. Accusing others from switching topics yet he does the same many times! The last point from the third guest was that if it is an allowed option for the VP, then there were logical reasoning for allowing those options by the founders and gov before. His argument was that he agrees with the "option" to exercise that right, not that he agrees with actually doing it. Destiny was so delusional to even comprehend that. Never put these political pundits on a pedestal, they are fallible and stupid at times like any other. This reminds me of that time when Martin Shkreli shuts Destiny up on one of the earlier debates. Also, the Destiny discord are absolute echo chamber d riders.
I'm far left
He just got cucked so he has to take is baby rage out on someone.
He got patience for everyone but right wingers 😢
Unrelated to the "conservative" Trumper debates. It is funny when Destiny approaches some debates so cool, calm, and collected, but other topics such as this just get him so fired up. Love it! Keep up the good content!
He's fired up because he actually does have TDS. The very mention of Trump triggers the fuck out of him and makes him soy out. He's actually deranged when it comes to Trump-related politics. The dissonance is super strong and obvious.
I completely get this. A conversation in a group of people i want to impress will be calm and reasoned with jokes put in. If its with just friends at a bar its screaming r3t4rd at them
His TDS kicking in.
@@lithium84 How bizarre when expecting politicians to follow the law is called TDS
@@jackeagleeye3453 Nah, acting like an unhinged loon about any topic related to Trump is TDS. Now I know why his wife left him…😬
Tbh that trump guy was at no point saying that Trump was acting in good faith, or that jan 6 wasnt an insurrection, he was just mad at how the oposition created that monster. Factually he didnt even disagree but Destiny saw him as the strawman avarage Trump fan and couldnt realise in time that it wasnt even the case
He's going to go insane debating Alex Jones
Kinda feel bad for that first guy who called in. Clearly a lack of education and critical thinking. Reminds me of the callers David Pakman sometimes gets
Travis came on and it ended worse than i could ever have thought. 😂😂😂😂😂
I used to have a hard time watching these Destiny streams but now I find them very enjoyable. He's a bright guy, which I appreciate more than whether he is aligned with me politically (he mostly is but not all the way).
I 100% agree with destiny and his argumentation and thought process is bulletproof, but I really think his best debate performances come when he is calmly dispatching arguments and matching the other persons tone. That avoids the dynamic where the person debating with him gets super defensive and stops incriminating themselves on all the points because they’ve clammed up.
While I agree with you. This wasn’t a “debate stream.” It was pretty clear this was a case of wanting to shut down a lot of stupidity going on in chat during a research stream.
There is no incrimination. You are high.
I really am impressed by the depth of Destiny's knowledge on such a wide variety of topics. It's insane. If he wasn't doing this he could have made a brilliant lawyer had he chosen that route.
What are you talking about? All he does is google stuff and have people feed him talking points. Get him on an irl debate without a phone and see what happens..
@@greenfroggood2392 Then you debate him.
Insulin is used to lower your sugar, orange juice to raise sugar. ..my sister lost her leg to diabetes.
Did we need the insulin talk? Feels like that could have been edited out.
to answer destiny’s question about Type 1 becoming resistant to insulin, yes you can become resistant and then you have to shift around to different types of insulin (if you’re not allergic).
I don’t know how common it is, but I do have several first hand accounts of it being real and diagnosed via lab tests.
I personally am really interested in the political paradigm shift of Republicans over the past 15 years. Im sure it's a multitude of things overall, but i do wonder what the big events were besides covid and maybe the 2008 financial crash that caused the "shift" or was it a mass accumulated amount of small things.
That's a good question, and doesn't have a really easy answer unfortunately. Being from a hardcore Republican area, my family and friends are all very very conservative, I've known a lot of qanon folks.
From what I've seen, the majority of Republican stances are based upon fighting the "progress" that they perceived as genuinely bad for the country. Bush wasn't loved here, but he wasn't hated by any margin. When Obama came in he did a lot of how should we say, underhanded policy making via executive orders. Michelle got involved in schools, changed how our children ate, but sent her precious kids to places where their meals were very nice. They saw the housing market fail, and both parties bailed out banks while people were going homeless in droves. My area was messed up under the opioid crisis, they saw lawmakers supporting the drug companies pushing that. They saw illegals starting to come in caravans thousands of people deep passing into Texas while cities far from the borders said they should be let in without any vetting or anything at all. I really can go on and on.
Then the Hillary and trump bit happened, Hillary told them they were deplorable. They saw her commit a crime and get away with it. They saw all the crap that the left just waved away, and there was trump... A lifelong ny democrat that turned against the left. He said he'd fix it and he wouldn't be nice to those that have been treating the right like scumwater. I distinctly remember the calls for another Sherman's march on the south during that election, the left hated Southern people. As time went on the left got busted paying for the steel dosier, which invalidated 100% of any Russian involvement with Trump in their eyes. It's not like they have anywhere else to go, the left has determined that the right is every "ist" and "phobe" possible and have no empathy.
Ive had some thoughts about this. Because of the constant push to discredit MSM and push alternative opinions people were primed for the failure of communication with cvd.
When the newest theories or broad statements were made about cvd there was a willing ignirance to how things are communicated colloqually v by scientists.
I.e "theres no evidence masks work" turned into "we recommend mask wearing" made people thibk there was a switch of stance by the experts when they just learned about the mask effectiveness because they had no prior evidence it worked.
That has lead to this idea that anything said by experts or MSM can be wrong, is a lie or is masking some neferious thing and in reality these people are just paranoid and reading into things with simple explanations
Since the core of the right wing is individualism, it's just a steady spiral of trying to get closer to that core, especially as it becomes more and more clearer how little right wing politicians actually care about that core.
It shows how bad the situation has been, because Trump is considered by many on the right to be the closest thing to an actual right winger we've had in years. And Trump isn't even right wing, he's a Business Democrat from the 1990s that got left behind when the Overton window began hard shifting to the left.
It's always been there. Their irrational hate for Bill Clinton, hatred for the Muslim world post-9/11, etc. Nothing really explains the mobilization of their hatred as well as the Tea Party movement that was organized around their hatred for the first Black President. Recall that every Republican in Congress at the time repeated Rush Limbaugh's mantra that he hoped Obama would fail as President. Modern Conservatives have always hated America.
Very good observation
53:06 if you’re doing a RUclips “series” on something, the first video on the subject will always get the most views. Viewership will fall off as more people feel they’ve already gotten the gist and fewer hardcore viewers have curiosity to satisfy
Then go out, start a channel and do things your way. Then reap the benefits of your wise advice. There you go, champ! 😊
Was this before or after Pisco debate
If you looked into j6 without bias...i bet youd change your mind
Say what you will, that guy was incredibly articulate.. for a guy with trumps 🦆 in his mouth
It gets harder and harder to ignore what happened in the 20 election. Expecting people not to point it out is the crazy position.
It just bothers me that people like Steven have more empathy for drug dealers in jail than with the J6 guys. I don't care If he wants to keep his TDS takes of "coup attempt" and call Trump a fascist, he's a Democrat operative in the end of the day and would say so even If he didn't believe in It just to strengthen the party, my issue Is the lack of empathy to normal people, most of them with no criminal record, getting decades in jail for rioting at a public building, something that happened in mass during the 2020 riots with little to no consequence.
I don't get why these people are "the ultimate evil in the world" and "the greatest threat to democracy" but somehow drug dealers and other criminals are "victims of an unfair and systemic persecution promoted by the state" and their imprisonment is "a product of systemic racism", that's when the entire liberal worldview start crumbling in my opinion. It seems as your entire thing is to, like Elon Musk puts, "look" good and righteous instead of actually "being" good and righteous.
To conclude, I'm fine with Steven calling his political adversaries Satan, that's a part of the game, but applying that to people being crushed by the state just for believing in Trump is disgusting and evil, and he should reconsider this position If he wants to keep projecting this fake image of being the "resonable and fair" democrat who fights the "madness of the evil progressives". People will quickly see through the mask as soon as they heaar the disdain he has for these poor bastards.
😐😐😐😐
"Wikipedia says The New York Times says, an anonymous source from the CIA says , Trump Bad insurrection." ---Destiny.
I'm glad to see that Trump actually insighted an insurrection., and a coup. I know that Destiny will never see this, but this and other videos of his have shown me that Trump is indeed guilty, despite what he says. I used to be caught inside the madness of Trump world. Was not exactly a conservative, but was presented with extreme leftism which made me think the left was going insane, although you could say the same for the right as well. Destiny may not have thought that this would not convince anyone, but it did. Thank you for doing this.
Wow. I’m impressed by this comment.
What is up with the 2013 style intro always popping up randomly after 3 minutes into the video. Just get rid of it, it is not necessary.
Sometimes when I’m not looking I think it’s an ad
Most Republican voters have some part Libertarian in their philosophy. It is not that crazy for them to eventually elect an orange pulsating middle finger to an ever-expanding government...
While voting to give the government more control of things like women’s body’s. They are a bunch of dangerous morons.
Lol nothing more libertarian than trying to actively overturn democracy
How is overturning an election a strain of libertarian thought? Is that what they believe in now?
Libertarians still believe in the democratic process and some form of (small) government. The people that did January 6th at the behest of the presidency were attacking one of the cornerstone processes of American democracy (the peaceful transfer of power from the former person to the new one.)
Ain’t no way any self respecting libertarian supports that.
Trump is the farthest thing from libertarianism
I'm a simple man, I hear Mr Mouton and I click the like button instantly.
Im a type 1 diabetic, and an epileptic. I take two kinds of synthetic insulin, Humolog and Lantus, respectively. The lantus slowly releases or activates or whatever throughout the day and the humolog is what i dose as per needed at meals and to adjust my blood sugar when its high.
Im 30 and i currently suffer from some neuropathy and it can really affect ones mental health, because its a slow process. My diet is really well regimented now, and the nueropathy i have is pretty much a result of my bad diet in my early 20s. Please please please hear me and fucking just take your meds and test your blood sugar *every time you eat* if you have diabetes 😓
Btw, Destiny is correct that its really alienating being grouped in with type 2s. Theres literally *no way* i couldve avoided the hereditary disease i have.
For some reason, type 2 diabetes gets *all* the funding for r&d for new drugs or treatments too. Its really upsetting seeing ads for new drugs that make life easier for type 2 diabetics but not me.
Also its really alienating too because the negative side effects of type 1 diabetes can also make you look malnourished too, and most people mistake that for you being healthy because they think diabetics are typically heavy. So there were years where i was suffering from ketosis regularly while having to seem fit for duty at my shitty dayjob
My sympathies.
My mother was a type 1 diabetic as well and it was hard to stay regimented throughout an entire lifetime and, as you stated, the neuropathy definitely worsens things.
I hope you continue to just do what you can to mitigate the effects of neuropathy as much as possible.
Type 1 here. I feel you brother.
My Dr ruined my life when I was diagnosed ag 6 by telling me that I could continue eating a normal diet I just need to give insulin.... such a horrible mistake.
If you haven't heard I really liked Lyumjev. It's one of the newer fast acting insulins that's faster than humalog
@TheGreatJ thankyou, it feels good to hear from another diabetic that was diagnosed so young, for me, it was 9. It a terrible disease. I hope we both live to see it cured. I heard of one guy who signed up for a diabetic drug study and actually left it with his diabetes having been cured. Can you imagine leaving some study, getting into your car and thinking, gosh, I don't have to walk into a pharmacy ever again..I won't need insulin ever again.
Oof baboof man this has me feeling big feelings right now 🤦♀️
@Xenomorph6793 the best one I've heard is an artificial pancreas machine that will constantly monitor incoming nutrients and release insulin internally as a response.
As of right now our Body has literally 0 beta cells that produce insulin, because our bodies own immune system attacked those said cells... so from what j understand recreating those cells is what we need
@Xenomorph6793 and yeah its such a silent disease. Like feeling like absolute garbage because I didn't give enough insulin after eating... or always feeling like tired because I feel low even though my blood sugar registers as like 120 or something... it's horrible
Moderate republicans cannibalized each other which led to a trump victory
Love this content. This is why I’m here.
Hold on a sec. Some people do actually have tds in the same way some republicans, like Trump, had ods. Theres legit criticism to be made but some people are actually just “orange man bad”. Theres no critical thought. They couldnt even tell you a policy position they disagree with. To pretend thats not the case is disingenuous.
Yeah, I can agree with this.
Definitely true, but he definitely makes it easy to not like him.
Exactly. Even though I watch him, Destiny absolutely has TDS though. Just watch his debate with Actual Justice Warrior. He'll defend anything that a piss poor president like Biden does even if it's objectively bad just because it means putting Biden above Trump. Although he's very smart and informative for most things, he just loses all rationality the moment he starts talking about Trump
😂 and yet whataboutism is not a real argument
trump and trump supports are alergic to facts and accountability
Then you're talking to the wrong people who shouldn't be talking politics to begin with. You could literally say the same thing about any other politician. The problem is people like you need to stop acting like Trump is business as usual...he ain't. Trump is a completely different animal.
Aww this takes me back to the good ol days
the reason we went for trump. is simple. the Democrats and the neocon establishment is exactly the same. we were tired of being lied to by both sides. so we tried something new. and it was absolutely hillarious.
If you think both sides are the same, you really should stop following politics as you have no understanding at all.
@jackeagleeye3453 they both the same to him because he's a right wing extremist.
A good way to handle these conversations when you are dragging people in from chat is to have a set list of factual questions that you ask at the start to establish how far down the conspiracy rabbit hole they are. Throw one out about Klaus Schwab, throw a question out about NATO, throw out a question about vaccines, throw out a question about flat earth, maybe a couple basic economics questions, etc. After getting thorough a list of 10-20 then go in on the specific question so that you can know if you are dealing with otherwise sane people who have had their mind poisoned on the particular issue or if you are dealing with or if they are a full conspiracy brained person. The first debate seemed like a full conspiracist while the second one seemed like someone who is just mind poisoned on the particular issue.
With the full on conspiracist you can farm content to your heart's delight, but there is no chance of an actual breakthrough. With the second person the content will suck but you might be able to change their mind if you hit them with a good negative example.
Is it a conspiracy if given enough time more often than not those conspiracies have been proven true I wonder.
@@YuriDSC, conspiracy theories are rarely ever proven true.
@@YuriDSC ehmm no they have not? list me 5 big conspiracies that turned out true which isnt just "CIA bad". Flat earth is fake, vaccines are fine, klaus scwabb is just a weird rich dude etc
@@YuriDSC Yes, it is a conspiracy regardless of if it is true or not.
"how did they go from Bush to Trump?"
i think it was as simple as progressivism stifling too many people imo. i got sucked down a massive conservative echo chamber because until 2016 i legitimately never heard people say "it's okay to be white" or "its ok to be a man" and the intersectional feminism stuff was way out of hand everywhere around me. i wasnt a fan of Trump, but even just listening to Milo, Paul Joseph Watson or Crowder unironically is kind of unhinged.
That could be. It's still really hard for me to understand how 35+ year old conservatives square their past beliefs with the modern era. Surely it can't be only dumb or mean people on the left?
This 👆
I'm not really conservative anymore but I agree wholeheartedly
Kinda a silly question how they went from Bush to Trump in 8 years... they didn't. They went to McCain who got blown out because most people saw Obama as being moderate and potentially unifying. Then they tried running Romney who was also seen as more moderate. Throughout Obama's second term, the general perception among conservatives was more progressive things got passed, race relations got worse, and conservatives were starting to be painted as "evil". Then the meme that is Trump captured a lot of the anger that people felt, and the memers themselves.
The issue you are going to run into with a lot of conservatives is the use of the word "Insurrection." The textbook definition and the colloquial usage implies drastically different standards. There are certainly arguments the actions on Jan. 6th meet the textbook definition. Likewise, by the textbook definition, most of the rioters of the BLM stuff would be considered "insurrectionists". This is the issue that turns into "what-aboutisms." Much harder to argue Trump, by legal definition, "incited" because of how difficult the standard is. Combined with a lot of the prosecutions being so harsh by comparison, and the general feeling that the system is rigged, you're gonna get a lot of people defending it without being able to articulate why they feel the need. It's much bigger than Trump, but he has turned into a lynch pin that people are too emotionally attached to.
I think a lot of this spawned in part because of reactionary feelings to critiques.
So, I'm in my early/mid 20s. I'm a pretty libertarian and progressive person. Falling on like the social libertarian/ semi hippie place. I grew up feeling proud to be American, despite any problems we had. I grew up happy and proud of the history of the South. Not the ideals of it, but the fact that this place of slavery, hate and oppression was growing up and out of it. At least that's how I felt as a youth.
I never witnessed anyone using the N word derogatorily, outside of Black people saying it to each other, or people who had the pass and shit with their friends. I saw racist jokes, but never in a mean or derogatory way. But always a fun "I poke you and you poke me back" kind of way. I never felt the issues of political strife until the insertion of feminism, and from there, it sort of ballooned into an all consuming thing around 2017-2018. It went from barely any true debates that tried get to the bottom of an issue, like the statues and stuff, to being a wide spread, in your face shallow debate where everything was wrong and black and white and we all hated each other.
Idk if I just don't remember it. I just remember being in 2016 and like the only class that we talked about Trump in was Civics. Like, and it wasn't even about his scandals. Just that he was the president and these were his policies and cabinet and shit.
I watched and consumed a lot of antisjw content, but never saw it in my school in any meaningful way, until I got to college. And it really hit me like a ton of bricks.
Professors and teachers seemed to crave the blood sports of shitting on our history and pride.
It was a painful thing to see your peers look around, confused and awkward as they were forced to defend or hold a political position they clearly didn't know enough about, but were being forced to talk about and encouraged to be combative.
I remember most clearly a debate on legalization of Weed. And how me and one girl disagreed with the premise that weed should be legal because it is non-addictive. And we were kind of painted that our political opinion was we were against weed and stuff. When our problem was that weed could be considered something that wasn't or couldn't be addictive. It was the stripping of all nuance from our opinions and views, and narrowing us down into a box we didn't fit inside.
It felt that starting with like 2016-2018, the discourse was kinda shot and killed. At a level that couldn't be sustainable.
And for me, this sparked when I would be my most politically aware from about 2018-2019 and 2021- mid 2023.
Where my problem wasn't that I agreed with Trump, but that if I even slightly didn't align with one side or the other, they both would assign me to being evil or a problem. And ignore my opinions as evil, regardless of how much or how little we agreed on everything else but the main topic.
I grew up consuming and thinking that the SJW/Woke stuff was something only NYC and CA would deal with. Only to be slapped by it and get riled up as everything I cared about was called a lie or evil. And wanted to be erased. My imperfect home of the South which was doing better, was beaten down yet again and I and a lot of people just lashed out at them, not caring if what we supported as a reaction was good or not.
I never liked Trump. I never wanted him to be president. But I would defend him as a citizen when I felt he was being hated unfairly. Until it felt that even the thought that you didn't want Trump to be assassinated meant that you supported him enslaving Mexican babies.
It was and in a lot of ways, still is this demonizing and insane. It is not a fun experience, or a healthy one when you are suddenly blindsided by everything you love being almost universally hated by the opposite political side. It makes you dig in with people you don't agree with, because they will accept you as different against the threat that wants us all to be wiped away.
This is of course my own personal experience. But I feel it captures how a lot of people felt in that era. Where we were suddenly being beaten over the head, and reacted with the trap card, Trump. And now have to deal with the fact Trump is in play. And was too disruptive to the game.
@@DogsRSweet When you grow up getting told if you think america is imperfect that you therefore hate it, that hate is only going to grow.
And I certainly haven't been given any reason to love it from any history or civics class. Modern politics hasn't either. This country is a sh'thole and whenever I talk to an open "patriot" they tend to believe in pretty hanous sh't, particularly about gay people.
@DogsRSweet so you're saying you hate black people?
@@LunarLocust This is exactly the type of non-sense he is talking about as far as I can tell... I hope this is a joke.
OP resumed well the sentiment. As a foreigner I can't look at the BLM riots and say "that's ok" while there's jan 6 protesters still waiting judgement in jail. There's clearly a 2 tier system working here.
I think I got a brain hemorrhage when that first dude said that you can't bring up someones past when considering someone for president.
meanwhile... have they even seen the process of people having to go in front of congress because they got nominated for a top-level government agency position? Congress will pull your fucking facebook posts from decades ago and probably ask what your favorite position in the bedroom is.
Destiny reads a bunch of self affirming shit and says its hardcore work research not understanding his worldview blinds him from realizing any part of reality.
Destiny is so unhinged. I don’t think he should be focusing on Trump stuff after his divorce
Nebraska Steve is back?
Oh god please yes
Destiny : Founder of *OnlyFacts*
Facts are my secret kink
Destiny lmao I’m a huge fan but the caller around 2 hours kinda cornered you and you got triggered . You said Trump telling Pence to not certify results is evidence of a plan to over throw the government yet there was a lot of debate whether that would be legal legitimate means to halt election results. If Trump assumed it was legal to use the government to halt the results then that is not evidence of a plan to overthrow the government
I like how the second guy got Destiny to agree "Trump might not have done anything illegal." Then got kicked and banned immediately once Destiny realized he might have to try to defend stuff like use of executive orders as undemocratic but legal.
Why would the constitution prescribe presidential elections when the VP gets to arbitrarily decide the president?
@@AnthonySuperCoder The legal theory Trump was relying on is a lot more complex than "VP gets to pick." The Eastman memos and how they would theoretically be used are available to read.
@AnthonySuperCoder Why would the constitution say, "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." And still somehow gun control laws exist.
This didn't happen. Destiny's argument was that something being legal doesn't mean it's good. The caller continually failed to address this point which is why he was banned.
tbh I'm not even sure what you can do to avoid these kinds of mistakes if your reading comprehension is this bad.
@@La0bouchereIllegal things can be moral too, does that make arguing the legality of Trump's plans pointless? Destiny makes a few claims to the morality of Trump's actions specifically that he believes they aren't in accordance to the 'spirit of the constitution' which is fine to argue, but why kick someone for thinking they can be both legal and morally ok? They finally got to the root of the issue and Destiny is like "I'm done." The continuation of the argument would probably have gone through some legal but morally questionable actions presidents have taken in the past, some where Destiny would agree with and some oppose and it would have probably painted his whole argument in a way he didn't like I think he realized this and ended early. Now I might be wrong and he just got triggered by Trumples and rage quit, but idk.
I really think Destiny needs to go back on Timcast IRL
Destiny- to go from Obama to then Biden in 8 years is also NUTS, and crazy. You didn't analyze how much the Overton window shifted on both sides
He probably didn't say much because we're not talking about Democrats right now we're talking about Republicans.
But on that note, in the years following Obama's presidency Bernie Sanders had two runs where despite losing he managed to shift the Democratic party leftwards. When you put all that in the perspective it's very surprising (to some) that a milk toast/status quo democrat wound up winning.
This is definitely nowhere near as night and day as Bush versus Trump.
@@TrikWestion Do you think trump is night and day with bush on policy?
LMAO what are some Biden policies that Obama wouldn't have done if he could?
@@TrikWestion hey at least Trump didn't start any wars which Bush did. Exactly which policies from Trump were extremely "right wing"? The Overton window shifted so far, Trump has never even been "far right" or really right wing. Trumps talking points are literally CLINTONS talking points from the 90s.
@@LetsGetDownToBiscuits just saying, Trumps policies and rhetoric are on par with Clinton from 1999.
We got a taste of the old Destiny with this one.
Went old school goblin mode for this debate
Destiny being mad about someone lost in delusional cult-like conspiracy arguments makes me happy and satisfied that I am not the only one.
Okay im not gonna say your dad knows what he's talking about, because he shouldnt have numb toes and fingers for years if he were managing his diabetes properly.
However, he is absolutely spot on about becoming dependent on insulin. What diabetes 2 actually is, is a resistance or "tolerance" to insulin. You need more insulin than you can produce naturally to get rid of your blood sugar. This is why external insulin is provided. However, once you introduce external insulin, you raise your tolerance *even further beyond the levels your body can naturally produce.* This is why, over time, ESPECIALLY without changing diet and exercise, people who get on insulin will need to steadily increase their dosage over time.
Ideally, what you want to do is decrease insulin sensitivity over time. The keto diet sounds like a good idea at first glance, because you reduce your glucose down to levels where your body doesnt produce insulin. However, its dangerous for a diabetic who is at high risk of going into ketoacidosis because insulin floats around their bloodstream for a looong time.
Personally, im a proponent of an intermittent fasting schedule that gradually decreases your eating window from 10 hours a day, to one meal a day over the course of a year. Its a safe way to gradually reduce the amount of insulin your body makes, thereby lowering your tolerance over time as well.
His hands and feet have been numb for years. Even when he’s right, he’s wrong. Lol
@akhnatenpage4854 I know lmao. That's why I started with, "im not gonna say your dad knows what he's talking about" 😂
I can't believe i was in favor on arguments like these. May God help us all.
This is the first time I've seen Destiny abandon his usual ability to see how other people might view things. There is a lot of grey area between completely monk like rational thought and complete delusion. Trump definitely has a persecution complex and to compare what he faced during his presidency to Hillary is laughable. Even with what she faced (which I would argue is a fraction of the attack) she showed signs of cracking. And how dare you make me defend Trump...
"how do you go from bush to trump" - easy - winning culture is appealing if you identify as a conservative. and since the 90's conservatives became entirely irrelevant. nobody would be honest even if you ask old people. infact, the old people will cope more because it looks bad the longer you've been a conservative.
the "alt right" happily admits that a big part of the appeal is the memes and him 'triggering the left'.
you're giving old people too much credit. people are just happy their side got some traction. that's why initially they themselves hated trump but changed gear the moment he was able to "own" his opponents in the meme debates in terms of favorability too.
My mom said Trump sounded like a complete idiot. First Republican nominee she didn’t vote for.
Truly Destiny has type 3 TDS.
😂👏 No doubt about that! Common symptoms of this disease include: Cognitive impairment/cognitive dissonance,Hubris,the lack of self awareness...
Excuse me but wasn’t there like 18 convictions of trumps closest associates regarding russia and the elections? He just stayed far enough away. He was colluding with Russia during his presidency right in front of us. Our American minds are so small. We can’t remember Tuesday.
The debating conservative was a mirror image of family get togethers for me.
Bad take by destiny lol
Even if you were dependent on insulin-which your body is dependent on a lot of things and to specifically pick out insulin seems pretty ridiculous-to think losing your extremities is somehow an alternative is beyond insane.
Destiny doesn't relate to the less unfortunate. I think regular people are feeling a financial crisis when it comes to food. The dollar store is now the 1.25 store . most people haven't experienced a 25% increase in wage. if you live in a food desert. fast food menus have increased at the same price, and you get smaller portions.
1:56:23
Destiny, you are being such a disingenuous person in 2021 congressional hearing established that Trump was exonerated from being accountable for the insurrection of January 6 later, on that year, the same hearing establish that the labeling of a insurrection is a dishonest and dis genuine title, to label the actual Situation that occurred on January 6.
As for the Evans that show that there were literal police officers, allowing in basically guiding people down the hallway that were participating in the actual riot. If you wanna label it, as such, which I know, you wanna label as an insurrection, or even attempt as an insurrection, which is redundant to what an insurrection is, which you were even called out upon. I’m sorry the fact hurt your feelings destiny in your opinion about Dj Trump and I know that there’s a lot of people that hate the guy understand if you don’t like the guy in the way he carries himself in his rhetoric but the talking points that you try to perpetuate and then you go and say that All conservatives value only that which fits their narrative on news reporting and all our stuff. Meanwhile you do the same exact shit you’re projecting conservers are doing. Where is the line that you’re willing to draw in order to hold yourself accountable to the same standard, that you’re trying to project your political Opponent to be destiny?
Even within the 14th amendment, it said clear as day that you have to be convicted of a criminal crime on a federal level in order to be barred from the actual ballot in the running for president. To be more precise, it any garment figure within both state and federal, which means, governor, senators, congress members, etc. I want to mention just a couple more things involving the police officers who were guiding people through the halls and allowing people into the actual capital building that day and how you’re claiming that. Oh that’s just a single police officer, well, there were way more than just one single police officer, allowing people into the building. All the front entrance to the building was blocked and the police officers were trying their best to force the doors to remain shut and closed, on the other side of the building on the other entrance there were police officers that openly allowed people into the building, all at the same time and it wasn’t a scenario based off of time last time last time left like you’re trying to project. They were all happening at the same time because were people trying to force their way into the building which were blockaded by the same police on the other side they were police as well Who were allowing people in. There’s more than just a single video as well to back this up being that there are security surveillance footage that just recently been released not only in 2021 but just recently in 2023 showing that they were peaceful, cooperative, and even being guided by police officers there was a single guy with a Buffalo head who is being guided, not one or two police officers but over seven of them. There were a massive group that was being guided around the building by several police officer officers.
The fact that you’re unwilling to listen to a different standpoint on the position of the actual case that’s been going on since 2021 shows your intolerance to listen to other ideas you’re in compatibility to even think that there’s possibly something that is proven wrong on your side of the Plainfield in your unwilling to give any Footage because in your mind, this is a political battlefield and you have to always be the winner in this argument destiny and that’s one of the key reasons why things blow up in your face people who are Republicans and Trump supports in all of that as well as classical liberals look at what you say and call you out all the time because you act Partisan. You don’t act fair. You don’t hold yourself to the same accountability and consideration on the quality of the information that you are trying to project our word and I’m gonna tell you this right now that you literally try to defame a reputable journalist, such as temple, as being a unreasonable in an actor source when temp pool for the past 5 to 10 years have been proven to actually be one of the most accurate journalist, even if it was just a RUclips channel but more importantly, his own website shows an accuracy rating of 90% in accuracy rating was committed by the actual national board of journalistic and Terry, which means that they hold biases no political motives when establishing how accurate the journalism is Based on the quality of the journals in itself in the accuracy. That’s another male in your foot for you Destiny.
Lastly, you’re so trigger-happy on trying to devalue anyone’s argument that differs from yours that might paint Donald Trump as innocent and you automatically go on the trigger happy accusation that they must be a Maga cultus Trump supporter some bullshit like you did in this video. You act as much of a degenerate , leftist, Woki, deranged, Trump, hating lunatic when you act like this. One less thing is that Nancy Pelosi absolutely has authority involving the National Guard to a certain degree, and so do a lot of major authority figures within the DNC as well, and they did ordered the National Guard to stand down during the active event of January 6. It’s been proven it’s been established. You cannot declaim that and try to belittle that now because that was a clear evident situation that actually happened and it very much well have been, something that made things worse in the whole entire scheme of things involving that incident. Doe Trump had actual video footage, published out to people on mainstream media, pleading for people to go home and to stop the writing. Stop this violent acts of protest, and even pleaded for the national guard to step in and do something in the National Guard said that is no longer your jurisdiction to be able to order us what to do and that’s because Nancy Pelosi, which was the head of the house at that point had authority over the National Guard at that point. You can’t just sit here and deny deny deny all the information to put onto the table when he doesn’t meet your expectations of information destiny and I’m sorry, but I’m disappointed in you because I’ve been watching you for years and I’m gonna admit it. I am more right leaning, but I’m not gonna let you shape my worldview alone, and if anyone here tries to shape the worldview based on what you think, then I think they have a very shallow mindset of how the whole entire country works.
Normally I’m with you but Wow you lost that debate as soon as you got so Fkn triggered. Way too emotional.