2005 Monaco RV Slide-Out Leaking..Why Did They Do This?
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Slide out leaks are a very common issue with RVs. Finding and fiing them is a difficult task due to poor design and often poor workmanship. This is a 2005 Windsor that has always leaked in the rain. The owner is a good customer that I offered to help a few years ago. They live in it full time with special needs, so I need to get it done fast. This is part one where I try to find the leak and give some commentary on why I do not like slide repairs.
Thanks for watching! 
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Can you just imagine if we had a James RV designed? I think it would be called " The Bulletproof Mothership"🤭😶😛😍🚀🛸
I'm sure there would be a RV tech making videos about my poor designs too! ;)
Only build rvs with No slides.
@@soillife1 If only... Ours has four leaking slides!
James has common sense..unlike alot of designers...James is the man!!
@@AZExpert Your workmanship is outstanding. An RV is a maze of engineering!
Rants are good because we as potential RV owners / owners are educated on issues that you encounter. Love your videos and repairs! You are just a badass! God Bless you sir! 🙏
I do a lot of deck repairs, same Idea keep the water out, I never use silicone, ever! I only use 100% poly-urethane sealant, hands down the best sealant ( with my applications), if the surface prep is not done properly for silicon ( most don't prep properly )it will lift and you can just pull it off in strips especially if there is constant dampness present, not so with urethane it's a 100% seal, lay it, apply to screw holes and so on and forget it! I think a lot of people and even companies automatically think silicon is the way to go, but that is definitely not the case. Great presentation, but I'm glad you're doing the job and not me!😂😎
I agree with you on everything. Thanks!
Man....I'm glad we watched this.You've just saved us from making a BIG mistake. So many people dealing with mold issues in their homes turn to RV's. That thing was full of mold!!
I totally agree why you don't want to own that repair... but thanks for taking out the time to explain it it's going to help out a lot of people... Thanks James
You're welcome. Thank you for watching!
I’ve learned so much from your videos, currently in the middle of repairing a leaking slide.. you’ve made things easy to understand and given me confidence to keep going through this rv nightmare I’m in. Thank you so much for these videos
You're welcome!
Always interesting! Thanks for bringing us along on this one!
Glad you enjoyed it!
My gosh, I can see exactly why you don’t like to work on slid-outs, but your doing a very good job,
And are very thorough,
thank you very much!
I enjoyed your thorough and thoughtful investigation and analysis of the leak. Now you got me, I'm hoping there is another episode in the saga of the 2005 slide out.
thank you. Yes, the next video will be out shortly.
Thanks for making these videos. It must be a pain to try and video when you work by yourself but I do appreciate it.
You are welcome. It's really only weird when other people are watching me talk to my phone. :)
Nice work James . You always put lots of thought & work into any job you take on 👍👍🇨🇦✌️🇨🇦✌️🔧🔧
Thanks for this video James. Your troubleshooting is great. Happy trails!
Thanks for watching!
Wow, what a pain . Thank you for the educational video. Profits over quality is the norm these days. Sorry your the guy that has to fix it. Thanks for taking us along.
Thanks 👍
I can’t add to the conversation because I’m seeing remarks that I would have made. You have a great comment section. Thumbs up 👍
I am so glad my wife and I opted to buy an RV without any slide outs. To me they seemed like a problem waiting to happen. Thanks for giving us a peek into this repair job.
I agree completely. I am a big fan of simple functionality.
James , I just purchased a barn stored 2004 Monaco Camelot in showroom condition with 5400 miles on it. I so appreciate your videos and have been binging anything relatable to do preventative maintenance. The geneset and engine seem fine but I am replacing all hoses, fluids ec.
Bottom line .... Im a big fan ! Your info guided me from Beavers to this well built coach whiles I scoured the country for a great deal. Thanks to you Ive found it. I hope to stop by soon to show you and hopefully show my appreciation.
Excellent video James, you explain it very well with details of what is going on and what is the best option for repairs. That's why I watch your sessions because you train us with details and prepare us to fix our issues. O, did I tell you....... Excellent Job👍!
Thanks 👍 that is fantastic encouragement!
Hats off to you sir! I love people who really values their job and would do their very best to get to the problem and fix it. Nowadays, it is hard to find people like you sir. Some people would just fix one issue that they think is the cause of the problem but then it really is not. I have a travel trailer that leaks on top and I had someone take a look at it, replaced the rubber seal outside and yet it is still leaking. Paid $$$ for it to leak again. Now I am stuck and don’t know what to do.
Watching this makes me ever so glad we purchased a Bluebird with out slides.
I did throw some bus love in there :)
I always love it when I get a new video from you!
Yay! Thank you!
@@AZExpert Every time, for sure!
Again....attention to detail. If only the factory had done that. I wonder, if the front of that support had been on top of the upright like the back, would it've
been as bad?
Great work!
Now I understand the other side of these problems. Some things are almost impossible to "fix". Faulty manufacturing and design makes it almost impossible to do preventative maintenance. You can't undo faulty design and manufacturing. Bandaids can be put on them, but they are expensive bandaids for the owner of an RV. Of course the manufacturers are home free, sold the unit, after the warranty periods and so it goes. AZ Expert repair is an honest maintenance company and I would not blame them from refusing to work on slides. Should we buy an RV with them?
Timely. Appreciate the effort to show us your work. An education, for sure. I'm currently shopping for used rig and have been focusing on a lot of Monacos. After this I'm not sure that is the direction I want to go! Thanks again.
Monacos are nice coaches, so I would judge them by this video. Thank you!
Liked and subscribed. I knew I didn't want the proverbial can of worms that comes with slides when we bought our coach, but your talks about them in a few videos has made that decision feel like a huge weight off my shoulders. I have enough things to try to know what I need about them, before they break. Keep up the great work. 👍
Awesome! Thank you!
As a former Monaco (junk) owner, if you open up the sides of the slideout, you will find the box is full of mold
Yeah, this is not the first Monaco I've seen with water in the slide.
Love watching your videos
I appreciate that!
Thanks,I have a 2003 Monaco,with a slide leak.This video gives me nightmares about how to repair. Hope you show the repair.Good detective work.You are extremely dedicated to your profession and a wealth of knowledge.
Good luck!
I'm impressed with your work. Doing all this single handed ,np helper? While taking excellent video of it with good narration. And getting these difficult pieces of slideout apart without damage. Nice to see a real professional at work.
Mostly by myself--ocasionally I do have help but they are in the videos as well
I take my hat off to you, sir. You obviously tackle jobs that no one wants to do but thank God you’re willing to do it and you seem to do a very very nice job when you’re all done. I’m sure you’re paid well at least I hope you are because you certainly deserve it. A job well done. Thank you for showing and sharing.
I appreciate that
Best one yet James!
thank you
I’m going through the same issue on my 2001 holiday rambler endeavor same leak in the same spot you just gave me a lot of info to hopefully fix this once and be done with it. Thank you!!!
Hey there, going through the same issue with our 99 HR Vacationer but haven’t been able to manually pull slide out yet. How did this repair end up going for you?
Rants are good things we learn a lot from rants so keep them up
thank you
You are so awesome trying to show us exactly what you’re doing without anybody helping you regarding the camera😮
Thank you!
The owner/owners either never looked up there or ignored what they saw from the outside for a long time. I inspected the slides on mine very closely before I even stepped into the coach. 😢
What a mess!!! I know these things are built to a price point... There are ways to control water leaks so that they do not get to the interior. I would go crazy, always saying what were they thinking to do it this way... I love your videos, I have learned a ton. Keep up the good work!
Yes I agree
owning a 2001 monaco I know i need to replace the seals eventually your videos will help thanks
Learned a bunch, almost bought a 2001 Monaco about 2 years ago. Glad I did not. Really nice looking but the guy that bought it has had many problems, it will be like new again soon. I Thank you for doing the video I learn from every one. Stay safe and healthy.
I completely understand. Thanks for watching and sharing!
Thanks for making this video.. This gives me some insight in what I need to do to repair my slide out. I have had to do quite a bit of work on my 1993 HR alumilite 5th wheel slide. Just like this the design was definitely deficient. They had water basically funneled right on to the floor inside. I think I have sealed all the leaks now I need to fix the damage to the slide room.
I'm happy to hear it helped. Thank you!
@@AZExpert oh yea, my repair has also included “roof repair tape”, same use as where you are using it, at the slide to wall seam.
I have 98 dynasty. with 1 super slide. they designed the seal area different on 2005. I think they made it worse.. I found my leak. there was crack outside on top of slide. great video. thank you.
Monaco has many different slide box designs. I dont know why they kept changing it :)
RV Amour Roof System commercial before your video... LOL!
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The job's you get yourself into. LOL. I'm almost sure that this job turned out excellent. Need to watch the conclusion to make sure that I was right. Keep up the great work James the RV world needs your type of expertise.
Thanks 👍
What a nightmare!! I’d be killing myself saying “why oh why did I take this job?!” Props to ya for your patience.
Thanks for watching!! :)
Bluebird used a double wiper non air slide seal on the 450 Lxi and I believe the M380 is the same. Prior to that they did use air slide seals on their slide buses. I guess they wanted to eliminate air seal issues? So far our 2006 is dry and the seals are still fine. Not easy to replace and install. Not looking forward to that day when it comes. Thanks for the video. I really appreciate the content.
thank you very much!
Great video as usual all be it a bit long. Big project. I watch most all of your videos, especially those that evolve early 2k Monacos as I have a 2005 Safari Cheetah that was made by Monaco. I am currently about 3k miles from AZ or I would have you take a look at a related issue. Earlier this year I had all the slide seals and toppers replaced, and the slides adjusted by Talin RV in FL. We have no leaks but during the topper change I noticed sun leaking in at one corner of one slide. Even after the topper and seal installation and the slide adjustments when the sun and the RV are at the correct angle I get sun light leaking in when the slide is deployed. Tailin's tech said he made the maximum adjustment to the slide but could not close the gap and suggested I use pipe foam insulation to fill it the gap. While this blocks the light it is far from Ideal.
On close inspection, when the slide is deployed the slide appears to have a good seal toward the front of the RV but a gap at the back starting about 30" from the back. This is not a flush floor slide but a raised slide on the kitchen side. It appears the slide seal should be closing against a piece of aluminum angle but is not making contact. The topper is preventing water leakage but air and cold comes through with abandon. Any suggestions?
Great video...thanks for sharing it....Does it seem like no one cares anymore??? does to me some times.
I was surprised the molding was not sealed at all more than anything
Enjoy your neighbors slide out, on your rig stay as far away from them as possible. Great video as always
that's good advice
Wow thank you for sharing!!!!
You are so welcome!
Oh man what a mess...I looked at a 05 and 08 monaco and they were super clean coaches but both had slide issues...the 2 slides on my 02 executive seem designed a lot different than the later Monacos. My buddy has a 01 Signature and his slide is solid like mine. Maybe the earlier ones were made better?...I dunno but hope so!
Great content as always!
yes I think they are made different
The problem of being so popular is we sometimes have to take on jobs we’d rather not do
yes I agree
But its always a learning experience 🤗🤗
is there a part 2? very informative btw
So glade you did this video, always wanted to see how this was put together on a slide, can’t wait for part 2, I’m assuming you will have to dry it all out before proceeding, could alinement of slide be a factor on leaks
Slide alignment wasn't an issue at all, just basic construction oversight. Thanks!
James I can’t believe the owner wanted to rush this, leaving all that wet wood is not good, but apparently that’s all the time they would give you , nice job
Wow another design flaw for water penetration I am appalled at the quality of some campers shaking my head good job fixing it
Thanks!
I tell people that ALL RVs leak. Some of them just leak worse than others. Thanks for the video
Isn't that the truth?
My kid just bought a late 90s Bounder. I'll have to go over it. It has the 'super' slide. Now my Wanderlodge is like the bus one you talked about. The bladders do dry out and leak. I got lucky when I found a new bladder seal in a box, in the basement. The one in it is good and I have been treating it to try to keep it that way. Need to replace wiper as it provides UV protection too. The slide controller box is tied into the body computer. It's nuts watching the system go thought the process to extend or retract the slide. I stored the new slide in the house. The owners got together last year and made a mass order of seals. Had to spend like 12,000$ min to get a set made custom. That is the second time they have done that since the early 00s
Bounders are good units. The air seals are great, until they break. I always look with dread at the slide timer/computers and hope today isn't the day it breaks. Thanks!
I had a leak on my front slide on my 2000 Monaco Dynasty. Thankfully it was only leaking around the outside of the slide out and not into the cabinets. So replacing the seals did the trick.
That is great news, I'll be changing the top seal on this slide.
Sopping wet bottom leaks open and closed is my problem. Both leaks are at bottom rear corner. HR Scepter 2005. I appreciate seeing the many layers of water intrusion efforts. I detest plated rusting screws fastening tail lights and trim ends and entry rail/handle. Idiotic to save such small expense to not avoid rust problems.
ouch! Hey, Thanks for watching! :)
Have a 2004 HR DP with a two piece aluminum roof. Any videos with the rivets breaking on the exterior seam where it meets the wall would be great. Have a few spots where the rivets popped and the area is sticking out a little bit.
I do not have a video on that. I did point out that issue on my last roof inspection video. I have drilled new holes and use self tapping screws rather than rivets very often on those roofs.
Old slide out seals do certainly suck. I have an '05 Monaco Knight 38PDQ. I have leaks on both outer corners of both main slides. The wiper on the flush slide has rolled like yours here. I have to have someone fix that. All four outside bottom corners of the slides have some separation of the plastic from the edge like there was no corner trim. I think rain just follows that edge right into the coach. I'm going to install slideout skis for a real corner seal and drip edge. There's also a 1/2" wide flat seal around the outside perimeter of the slide rooms and a 3/4" seal around the perimeter of the slide hole on the body (both main slides). Can I replace all the flat seals with a new bulb seal on the perimeter of the slide room only that squeezes shut when the slide comes in?
I'm looking for a used DP so this is great info!! If bought used would a pre-inspection have found the problem? What could the owner have done to avoid the water issue? If anything! Thx!
As I am familiar with these leaks, I smell inside the cabinets. Looking inside would have shown the damaged wood, but other than that, nothing.
It's not often a person gets to see their repairman at work like the owner of this RV. A real shame the poor design caused so much of a problem.
I have a WHOLE channel of this lol, welcome!
I can't even guess what they call that seal!😈. Much better to see you take things apart in case I need to later on ours!
:)
Love following your tik Tok videos. Have an 08 Monaco contessa have a slide-out leak unable to find the origin does this gutter work only while it's extended out? We have one that leaks from the bottom left corner no matter what if it's extended out or pulled in we've been fighting this for 4 and 1/2 months all seals look to be in perfect working order
Whoa that's definitely not good and flawed by design. At least you have the video of the tear down to kind of CYA with. Hopefully you're working with a good customer who understands you can't redesign what's already there only modify it. If anyone can make this work and not leak it's you. I really hope this customer also understands how truly lucky they are to have you doing this. For one I'm almost positive you're not charging them enough for this job and even though you aren't you'll do your best, which is considerable, to fix it...
there is no way you can charge what this should cost. great videos, have really learned a lot from these; step one, check the roof!
Thanks James
I really enjoy your channel. I'm shopping for a used Class A Diesel Pusher pre-def. Can you recommend an RV Tech / Inspector in the Tampa Bay Area?
Sorry I don't know anyone down there--contact a dealer--they may have someone
That did not look fun! BUT! Appreciate the details, Awesome!
Thanks for watching!
💥 You Nailed It ✅ Finally The Truth... Cheap Poor Design 💥
can't argue with that assesment
I am a huge fan who has benefited from watching your videos & appreciate your honesty . I need a 2001 rv inspected for full time purchase for life changing purchase . How much do you charge for such inspections? It’s three hours away and I can’t be wrong about this . Do u go to conn. ? Also the costs that you charge if so ? Ty so much
I'm not currently taking on any new jobs, I am too swamped! I'm based out of Arizona, but I do travel all over, usually for dealer support
You are very brave!
or stupid lol
I learned slide outs leak. Probably best to get a coach without one. If they don’t leak they break 😂. Doesn’t Newmar make one piece slides from fiberglass?? I’d say they will leak but not like this one does. I’ll be waiting for part 2. 👍🏼
Tiffin does one piece, I haven't seen Newmars like that. but yes they will break
Hi I really enjoy your videos I had a question about slide outs in particular truck slide outs truck campers I read a article from host where they said they're slide outs are the best in the industry I would like your opinion on that please
which camper?
@@AZExpert host Cascade truck camper or the host Yukon they claim to have the best slide outs and have had no customer complaints this comes from their website I was wondering what your opinion was thank you
I’ve watched a bunch of your videos and have decided I would never buy a new, branded, motor home or travel trailer of any brand unless they came with a 100% lifetime warranty. They all appear to be junk no matter the cost. I would maybe consider a converted commercial bus if the build was totally documented.
I hope you have a couple of million to spend. There a number of high end builders who will build out a provost for you.
If you're in AZ it should be dry in a couple days? I have a 98 Windsor with a 16' driver slide it is hydraulic. When I bought it the owner said they had issues with leaking so they added more rubber and didn't let the box contact the wall using spacers on the two hydraulic arms. It is spaced out about an inch. I would be interested to see this operation. Does it go down for a level floor to slide? Mine has an all metal box and roof it looks like they put a rubber roofing on the top of yours. I couldn't see if there was a slope to the slide to keep the water on the outside edge. Of course leveling and maybe even leaning it might help. It looked like the topper was short. The topper seems like it should pour over the slide but this design looks like it is a gutter and the water pours out the front and back. I'm not sure about the topper if you have a smooth roof and a slope as it still gets dirt and leaves up there and is hard to keep clean. I took mine off. My slide has a thick aluminum wrapped on the three sides welded at the corners where the fascia boards are mounted to. It is a strong box.
One thing is my box is aluminum and you need to keep airflow around the sofa and keep the cupboards open when stored in humid climates. The Monacos with all the metal in the walls has a tendency to create condensation on the walls in cold climates anyway. They should be kept in AZ. Mine has the three rollers and that bottom section under the sink can get very moist. The plywood shrinks over time just by drying out. I took the carpet off my slide and just exposed the bare wood under the sofa. My sofa had three seat belts installed through the plywood of the slide floor. I don't know if it would have held the sofa in place let alone a person in an accident. People might want to check that. Mine doesn't leak but it is falling apart with age The extra 19 inches makes it worth it for me, I was glad I found it. Thanks for the videos they are very interesting.
Thank you very much for sharing and watching!
When the slide is out, should there be a gap between the roof and the rubber sweep…..if not how to fix when the sides are tight at this point?
Only when it’s raining huh? Lmao😂😂😂😂
Great channel, love your transparency. If you were in the market for a late 90’s class A Motorhome, would you recommend a Monaco as a relatively solid unit or what would you recommended. Around the $30k price range. What do you have the best luck with in your experience. Probably staying away from the slide outs all together. Would greatly appreciate any info or recommendations. Thanks
James I'm a 39yrs RV mechanic, if they only knew what sliderooms were slapped together they wouldn't be a luxury but a henderance. I've been straight wanderlodge,Prevost and Newell mechanic. Ours don't leak often but when the seal pops,get out the fat wallet.
I own a second hand 2013 Sanibel, which is in pretty good shape, except for a badly rotted out slide out floor in the bedroom slide. Understandable for a trainer that's 8 years old. But my neighbor has a 3 year old much larger unit and last year he was repairing rotted out floors in two slide outs. Incredible! Two year old American JUNK! There should be some way to hold manufacturers responsible for the junk they sell:-(
I do agree with you completely.
Do you like so called slid skis to keep slide out subfloor water damage ?
Wow I remember when Monaco did their first slideouts after purchasing holiday rambler lol
Wife wanted to trade our dynasty for newer with slides.. I explained why I said not lol. I hate it when I'm right lol
lol Hey, Thanks for watching! :)
Do you have a video or blog on how a slide-out Should be built?
I'll have a follow up on this slide out soon.
Hope you can get it all dries out before you have to put it back together.
I would have liked to. Time is a demanding taskmaster sometimes, this owner had life situations that would not allow the weeks to dry out. I did make recommendations and wiped down as much as I could. Thanks!
Water leak not related to slide out... But you seem to respond so I will ask.
I have a leak at the back of my 34-ft Class A coach that I recently purchased. I've been advised to reseal the end cap at the top, in the lights, and the camera.
Should I be removing the existing dicor, and cleaning that all up? Or just clean end cover the existing dicor. It seems to me that removing and checking for dirt trails is a better plan.
If you have the time, it's better to remove the old sealant for sure. Thanks!
@@AZExpert thanks for the quick response... When it comes to doing it vs doing it right - I have the time.
Gear video! Would an RV cover help if it's leaking when closed or will it cause other problems? Thanks
Rv covers are a waste of money
@@AZExpert Thanks for the reply. I get there are cons to covers but I feel like if I can't check on my unit after every storm (got water in with slides closed!) a cover would be good. Also, isn't tge sun really bad in AZ? Do you just feel like waxing is better?
Thank you!!
You're welcome!
James, would you suggest that people just bring in their slides when it rains?
if they are storing it yes, if it is crazy windy yes. otherwise no
I thought the slide out awnings were supposed to shed most of the water off that would land on that slide out? Are they effective or not worth having???
Yo - AZ. Cheeeeeze. Experienced as you are , Why did you take on this job ? Now i will NEVER even try to fix a slide out !!! Thanks.
The customer is a good person and I had spoken with him about it a few years ago. His situation means he cannot drop it off at dealerships and I was trying to help.
@AZExpert what did this repair cost roughly? Dealing with something similar in my Country Coach...
They just need to make a slideout jacuzzi , this way we won’t have to worry about the water. :)
don't give the industy any ideas.
Off topic question you added rollers to a slid out one time do you have a part number you can share
they were J-13 rollers from LCI www.amazon.com/Lippert-Components-115622-Trailers-Slide-Out/dp/B07ZDSWN9C/ref=asc_df_B07ZDSWN9C/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416770464416&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13199159626618491344&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030039&hvtargid=pla-871303114953&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=92859401686&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416770464416&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13199159626618491344&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030039&hvtargid=pla-871303114953
The way some of these rvs were made is criminal in my opinion. luckily Monaco has been purchased I heard my Thor, I own a 2019 Thor and it is the worst. 2 slides one has never worked right, I could go on but you get the picture.
LOL I do
Decided to review this video since I am looking at a 2009 Monaco Monarch 🤔
Have the roof inspected!
What brand is your pistol grip screw gun?? Get the link like the RV Geeks so we can purchase and you make the commission!!
Thank you. I have thought about affliate links but it also seems like a pain to set the whole thing up. Also, my Craftsman screwgun has been obsolete for 5-6 years. I have a Milwaukee back up set, but I am very stubborn about the Craftsman set, as I have 10 batteries that I can swap out, so I'm rocking it until it dies.
what, did I just hear you say, you are going to use eternabond tape
shhhhh, I corrected myself to "roof repair tape" :)
I have a 2005 Monaco, Trail Aire, TAA 351with no documentation. I need to replace the,water pump. What is your method for removing the dog box. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Someone at Monaco slacking, either Monday morning or Friday afternoon 🤔, not the first RV I've seen whete they didn't seal under products, just to many times
And it wont be the last
“All slide outs leak.” 😮😒
It's unfortunately true, most modern slides have a gutter underneath to re-direct water.
@@AZExpert thanks for the reply. We are looking at that era/make for our first rig, and see there are so many issues to be ready for and maintain. But a six figure rig is not doable. Will definitely know how to find you when we get it! Thanks again.
Is there a follow-up where you finish?
That angle was effective if it had been properly installed and it is actually necessary to seal the bulb seal properly. If the angle is properly installed water wont get back behind it keeping water out of the coach.
I was wondering if you know anything about NRVTA, an RVtech school? Thanks.
It teaches good basic RV systems. I'm a bit concerned that it feels a little money centric but their courses are very useful and up to date.
@@AZExpert thank you so much. I’ve been thinking of taking their courses for our own benefit, and maybe some side cash while helping others.
16 years of a heavy coach bouncing down the highway, this is nothing!!! Make part 2!!! Monaco was quality back then!!!
I was surprised by this lack of sealant, I thought there would just be a void in a section. Monaco was quality for sure, they probably should never have bought Beaver in hindsight.