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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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Turki Alalshikh is in talks for a super league involving eddie hearn's Matchroom Frank Warren and Queensbury Toprank Golden Boy and PBC, since Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou weve had the undisputed Fury vs Usyk and it feels like all the fights we have ever wanted to see are now being made. But what's in store for Turki Alalshikh and his league?
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There being so many belts is exactly the reason someone can be a world champion and you have never heard of them 😂
What, you think Rolly Romero wasn' t legit?
Who?@@marccreation1052
@@marccreation1052he isn’t, blokes a 🤡🤡
I'd make it so it's only 3 titles per weight category as one doesn't work for boxing..as boxers only box once two twice year.
@@saqib7965this is one of the most retarded sentences ive ever read.
lowest ranked fighter at the end of every season gets called into the embassy and never seen again.
😂
I thought they just chopped their hands off?
@@morgan1985uk It depends. Chopping hands is pretty old-fashioned, they still do it in villages. Saudis in particular send them to construction jobs and pretty they are modern-day slave.
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@@samanthahydeker7914 they bring Asians in for construction.
Saudi money doesn’t talk it shouts!
SCREAMS!
They even own The Premier League and it's Referees.
Boxing super league??? Love that idea
yeah fr
Yeah is definitely a good idea. Boxing needs some structure and also updating. The UFC model is just great for the fans
@@MoralesCorner The UFC model is the worst there is. The judging, reffing, and ducking never ends.
@@TheStraightestWhitest The worst ever ducking in UFC is at most someone holding up a division for a year. Boxing people like Tyson have ducked AJ for over 5+ years in the making so it's not even close
A super league is kinda a natural evolution from the team based 5v5 formula. I think the problem is that its coming from Saudi, we can all agree its sports washing at its most blatant...but by the same token Turkiye comes across as a genuine and legitimate boxing fan.
The best fight the best. No ducking
Everyone, minimum 4 fights per year. Injured fighters get replaced. No hold ups.
@@scabthecat Delusional to think this will happen when you have no idea what it costs both the fighters and the people paying them.
@scabthecat yeah that's too much. 3 is ideal with no looming injuries.
@@TheStraightestWhitestUFX fighters get paid a fraction of the paydays boxers get but they fight that often.
@@1chaka You can't compare the two. Boxing has a history and recognition and is watched all over the world. The world knows about Ali and Tyson. I can't even name one current UFC champion.
It's never good when one man owns everything but this belt circus must end.
Hasbro has a monopoly on Monopoly.
@@samuelhannan5420hasbro don’t have a history of luring journalists to a consulate before murdering them cos they disagree with what the journalist wrote.
BOXERS own boxing, bro. Just cos Turkeys Halall Shake might be organizing everything and whatnot, if the boxers don't turn up then THERE IS NO BOXING!
It has to be a partnership. But the parasites have to go, one way or the other.
@@samuelhannan5420do they? I thought they just made Transformers? I never knew that
No the worst thing is when a corporation owns everything. Turki doesn't mind losing money on great events, but corporations must always suck out as much profit as possible at all times. The fighter salaries for UFC are a joke when you compare it to the profits they make.
The problem is if you look at a unified organisation like the UFC the fighters make peanuts and the ownership make bank. Boxers already have a history of being exploited, and it's only likely to get worse if they dont have the ability to negotiate with leverage.
Historically, great artists would have a "patron", which is just a rich guy or prince that likes that person's art, and supports him financially. Turki is like a patron of boxing. He really loves boxing and respects the boxers.
The UFC on the other hand is a soulless corporation that must make bigger and bigger profits every single year. If a corporation fails to make a profit they can legally be sued by their shareholders for breach of fiduciary duty. There is the difference.
@@TeacherDoug7yes but what happens after he is no longer here
WBC Silver ginger continental belt. Uncle you make me laugh . Quality content
The Fridge Magnet 😂
"Gold and silver franchise fridge magnet, that no one gives a f**k about." (I've just nearly spit my pint out. 😂😂😂)
You watch RUclips videos in the pub ? Bet your a great laugh on a night out !!!
Turkey needs to EMPLOY PROPA to promote his fights.
He did already
he already is involved
I would love to see him get ShowBizz involved too
@@ichloe9 You people don't see it?
"Silver ginger continental belt" had me cracking up lol
A kind of "super League" for boxing already existed in the form of the Muhammad Ali Trophy, tournament-style competition whith all champions & top contenders of a given weight class. (Notable winners being dre Ward, Inoue & Usyk himself). And it absolutely delivered imo.
Idk about the saudi plans but a 'league-style' tournament in boxing (/ fighting sports) is unfeasible, but I'd love to see another tournament to unify the belts in at least one weight class
Exactly the super series is adequate enough, just bring that back.
Boxing has a long history of association with dubious bankrollers, the Mafia, Don King the convicted murderer, Kinahan cartel and brutal dictatorships like Zaire's Mobutu, now it's the Saudis turn. That's boxing for you, still love the fight game though.
Absolutely, though this is sportswashing on a scale rarely seen since the Roman Empire. Most fans don't care about the horrors perpetrated behind the scenes so long as they get their spectacle. If the boxing bodies had done their job, SA wouldn't be needed.
It's more about Saudi showing you who they are, rather than what you hear about from the media for years.
"I didnt want to be in the league anyway" 😂
Uncle propa had me in tears with that one he always brightens my day the mad man 😂
im crying laughing at that
With the current model of boxing everyone's a champion. That's what puts people off boxing is the incredibly complicated system as everyone has a belt and most of them you've never heard of it. Simplify it and make it like the UFC model where you have 1 champion per weight division and all the ranked opponents need to face each other to get a shot at the champion.
Agree with the one exception, as HW division in UFC is now a fuckin shit show, as Jon Jones is stalling the division.
The way boxing used to be you mean
@@Dex2024Is that really how boxing used to be? What changed it?
@@otaieb48 greed and TV companies.
Propa's on the payroll :( Great atmosphere in Saudi isn't it 😢
Nahhh you can’t prove that. Wait.. maybe we can
He 100% is🤣
I’d say it’ll mostly be in Saudi but like the ufc they’ll probably travel to different countries as well
Well he’s right about how it will be better for the sport
Great atmosphere for fights nobody wants
This guy is single handedly saving boxing!
sad that saving the sport only works by brute force money
@@kuschelwuscheII don't care WHY they fight each other!
@@kuschelwuscheI tell me something that doesnt work by the force of money.
@@jurgenzimmermann2786 happiness, integrity, friendship, love, art, satisfaction, family, experience
@@jurgenzimmermann2786 happiness
Should just do tournaments in certain weight classes that need it every year.
Remember K-1 Grand Prix? Boxing should do that! I don't mind watching seven 4-round fights in a row to determine a champion out of eight contenders in a single night. And no fighter would have to fight more than 12 rounds total.
Mate they stopped those for a reason 😂
@@nUmBskulLL they stopped the WSOB and WBSS because of Covid mate. The Sauderlands had no choice but to stop it... So yes, there actually was a reason...
It was not that long ago when all the problems you talked about were not around and there were mutiple belts back then and mutiple promotions, boxing needs changes. Striping the rights and money away from boxers UFC style is not it, let alone they still have all the problems you talked about they don't fight more, there are protected fighters and from what I've heard the steroid etc. use is more prevalent in the UFC.
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BOXXER has their route to Saudi through CBS. If he unifies, the double excellent will have the undisputed with Opetaia in Saudi no doubt. Really looking forward to see what this league is all about. Best vs best, sign me up. Launch it on your own platform and your laughing. No offense, DAZN, TNT, ESPN etc etc, but this could truly be the one subscription for all the boxing id need.
Heres hoping the league wont ignore the smaller names coming through., but based on him getting Mark Chamberlain over, I have hopes plans will be in place to make sure they wont be forgotten.
The idea you suggested about drug testing is bang on the money Propa💯🥊🔥🔥🔥🔥
It’s mental when you think about the old era fighters who fought at the top level every 3 weeks with records of 186 fights or something. Guys like Archie Moore who was still fighting champions at the age of 65! With gloves that barely had any padding and rules and refs that didn’t stop the fight until someone was half dead and sagging on the ropes. Boxing back in those days was insane!
So some guy from Saudi Arabia gets to choose who is in the top 15. So if you are from yemen in houthi controlled area, are gay, or critised the Saudi government etc. Will you be banned. I'm not sure what their opinion on womens boxing is. UFC is also terrible for the rights of fighters, this is not good for boxers and in the UFC there is still cherry picking, the same if not more steroid etc. use and they don't fight more than modern boxers either.
Also boxing is haram according to Google 🤷
Ima tell u rn non of those saudi guys at the top are real Muslims, just look up stories of what they do
100% about telling friends about title fights who havent followed boxing in 30 yrs
As a fairly casual boxing fan, I don't care about belts at all. I just want to see the best fight each other.
I know this might be a stupid take, so just try to hear me out. What if boxers fought with other boxers in the same country to compete in earning a title in their own country. Then, later on, champions of other countries can compete on winning a world title. Again, this is probably a stupid idea, but this randomly popped in my head, lol
2:12 Never seen Voldemort crack up like that before
The only downside I see with this right now is that it will create a monopoly. It might be the solution for fixing the boxing circus at the moment, but it will eventually and inevitably go down the shitter like any other monopoly always does.
But what does it mean for the lower level fighters that don't have a huge following yet? This only sounds like a good idea for the ones who are already household names
It's always been that way
@@seanisnotjohn that's true, but at least prospects get get built up fighting different styles of opponents.
With this, prospects would have to fights champions in order for it to sell.
There needs to belts. It gives fighters something to aim for.
How many active pro boxers are there? 300,000, maybe? Most of them will win NOTHING. What's the point of a career of 30 odd fights, you're better than 99% of boxers and you can't win anything.
Footballers get to win up to 4/5 trophies every year, golfers 4 majors, countless tours, tennis, players 4 majors, countless tours it goes on. Boxers, they put theirt life on the line to mostly win...... FA!
I don't know about a boxing super league, but when I saw Usyk holding up a belt that said Undisputed that Turki gave him, made me wish that there was only one belt per weight division. I wish there was a way for Turki or anyone else to merge the four different sanctioning bodies into one.
That's what made you wish there was only one belt? The one belt that looks like it was made out of a cornflakes box.
Been saying for years. Each of the 4 sanctioning bodies buy an equal stake in the Ring belt, then use their own belts as eliminators for the actual ring title. The rest can be fringe world champions and have 1 clear champ in each division.
Personally I'd love to see them bin all the belts and just have one overnight, but that won't be allowed happen.
or just have an indisputed title in every division - the only one people care about that he owns. doesn't need the other titles if the undisputed belt is genuinely held by the best fighter in the world and not passed around on politics.
It's one of the things that appealed to me in MMA as a kid. I couldn't memorize however many champs for however many weight classes in boxing
Everyone talking like most champs don’t fight 1ce maybe 2ce a year boxing would become so fucking stagnant and a champ could easily hold the division when ever he wanted if he was the only one.
@@2moreminutes As a kid? When I was a kid, UFC was an 8 person (or 16 person) one-night, single elimination tournament. Now THAT would be great for boxing, but you'd have to have like 4 round fights.
There’s absolutely zero chance. BUT, imagine The Ring belt but if it actually had power and pockets to make the best fights ? They’d have to let Turki in if there was a Riyadh belt and he could position fighters and maneuver fights so that a gd mandatory actually meant something. He could then create a way to keep those with his belt actively engaged with boxers of others belts to ensure a revolving door of the best talent. Otherwise, buying out basically all of Vegas just isn’t feasible.
Boxing in the states has regulatory oversight via the government for starters. Good luck with that. It’s not about money. These goobers are public servants. You’d fully eliminate their assignments. Plus I think you’re heavily underestimating the characters backing boxing In vegas haha like… HIGHLY overlooking that aspect. And the history of boxing in Nevada as well as the players. That we know of. It’s not just the belt systems. It’s the hotels. The venues. The investors. So many more moving parts. There becomes a point where you can be wealthy and throw money at problems but if the goal is to transform the image of the region through sport, they have a path WITH the involvement and relatively hands off approach from Turki. Of he wants to do this, it sounds less in line with their goal and more just to control more of the sport. Thats just my own speculation and of course not knowing the directives or guidance of the their project. For instance you didn’t see formula 1 get bought entirely by anyone in that region. But oil money did indeed buy a few teams and seats in important places with a few more races in the region. I could see this being a purposeful moon shot to negotiate down to making their own belt as mentioned.
Not to mention boxers aren’t active enough in the slightest. UFC fighters as contenders fight minimum 2x a year and an active champion will go 2-3. But you wouldn’t need to address that if Turki made his own belt that stood above the rest that was most revered , could have more financial incentives or atleast no fee. Imagine how happy boxers would be simply not paying a toll haha.
Technically there are more mma organizations than the UFC thats just the biggest
People forget this.
Its a bad idea.
The champ cant fight all other 14 in the league, as that would take 7 years.
Also....
Eddie wont give up his ring masters role, he loves it too much.
This is gonna end up splitting boxing even more in the long run.
Imagine Eddie sells up and one year later he starts up Matchroom 2.0 to compete in a new league (sorta identical to the format we have today 😉).
Strap in for the boxing revolution!!!
Boxing is partly entertaining, partly fighting skill.
More belts = more entertaining while with one belt, we will be entertained only once a year.
So why take the belts away if he is making the good fights? The fights are more relevant if they are for some shiny belt.
Lets stick to more belts :)
Also - Saudis are not known to be like a solid democracy or something. Would you give them all the boxing in the world and then (maybe Turky leaves) they fkitup big time? I don't trust this!
You don't need a meaningless belt on the line for a fight to be entertaining
@@seanisnotjohn Yes you do. A fight for a belt is waaaay more catchy than one for no belt. For the public and also for the boxers.
@@alex.toader Maybe that's true for the casual public who don't realise just how many belts there are, but I think most boxing fans have reached the point where they view them as a meaningless shiny. The names completely outrank the titles now rather than being on a par as back in the older days. Strip Bivol and Beterbiev of their belts and it won't dent the excitement of the fight at all. You have a point about leaving it all in the Saudis hands, though. When they eventually lose interest, it could leave a massive blackhole in sport when they depart.
@@SquinkyThreepwood no... so now Beterbiev has 2 or 3 belts and Bivol has one. Bivol defended his belt a few times. That was exciting, wasn't it? and now we have a clash of champions - belt holders - that is cool isn't it?
@@alex.toader You just have Autism I guess 🤷🏼♂️
His Excellency has a good idea, and if Frank and Eddie are onboard the others will be wise to follow.
I think its mad that casuals moan about atmosphere when we are getting the fights we want, the only difference is saudi dont serve alcohol to sniifed up yobs that provide the atmosphere we are used to in the uk or us. Like it or not saudi have changed the game for the better and provide elite fights thats boxing fans want and are paying the fighters plenty to save avoiding the politics that have hindered boxing for decades. As a true boxing fan i dont watch boxing for atmosphere i watch it for great fights!!
"Yobs"? It's fighting so it's all about "yobs"
No it's not, boxing is a sport and true fans enjoy the sport of combat and appreciate the skills that the professionals risk there lives for to provide for there families and to be great at what they do. Half the crowd are out for a good time getting pissed not for the boxing if they were there for the boxing the yobs wouldn't be falling over the place shouting and fighting in the crowd, fans support, yobs support habits!!
It's simple, no more hype to decide if a boxers good or not. From now on a boxer credibility is based on a points system determined by who he has fought and how he won...BOSH!
1 point if the opponent was just a tomato can with 2 wins and 60 losses on his record, regardless if you KO him in a round.
10 points if you beat a Crawford by SD, 15 by UD and 30 by KO. That type of thing. This would stop somebody like Wilder being thought of as a GOAT just because he KO'd loads of nobodies and was overhyped to death by Finkle and Arum. Under the points system he would literally only have been a journeyman having beaten almost nobody of note.
Here is my 2 cents.
There is this super league with their own belts.
Call it the TBL (Turki Boxing League) or what ever.
When you win a belt you have to defend it with in 4 months.
You can only fight for a TBL belt in a TBL fight, no other belts from other boxing associations can be on the line in a TBL fight.
TBL fights are simple 80/20 split on the purse, 80 to winner & 20 to loser.
Change the scoring system to stop draws.
The TBL fighters are allowed to take other fights outside of the TBL but champions will be locked into that 4 month defend clause.
Winning purses for TBL championship fights will be paid on the next TBL fight.
This will stop a fighter scooping a big payday, the belt and never coming back to the TBL.
Pauli malignaggi just knows if there was 1 champion he would’ve never been a champion 😂. UFC, ONE and other mma promotions have shown 1 champion per division works
Aka what mma has always had with pan-craze, pride and the UFC
better stop holding on to that 0 losses supremacy-mentality boys😂
Mr Shubbly Tuck Tuck already owns Warren & Hearn's so why would he feel the need to buy all of their boxers? As for Shalom, its a Ranger v Celtic thing so Benny Boy & his boxers would not be allowed anywhere near the top table so his stable of boxers would eventually jump ship and join the Shiekh for nothing
I've just read a comment that you've deleted controversial videos, so I decided to take a look, and it seems you have.
Two Tyson Fury videos are gone. The one about him losing his fans and the one about him paying off the farmer so he could get away with being on the Juice.
I started watching this channel as a form of escape a breath of fresh air if you will. You were different and didn't give two fks.
Put the videos back up. This world needs more honesty, not less.
That’s almost as many different belts as Man United has football kits
Almost but not quite
Imagine being a Man United fan
Once upon a time @@SirSalter
And titles
Before you even say that. Yes I am a casual. But here is my proposal, and if you have a brain you are going to love it . Let’s pick one date in winter and one in summer. say the two solstice, because they are cool. The four belts choose their Champion. It doesn’t matter how they do, as long as they have one champion each, for the tournament. In the summer date, we have two fights, in a “semifinal” style. In the winter date, you get the “final”, and one single champion and also a single belt winning. Uncle turki provides the money to protect this from corruption. The four belts would become active elements of the game, soon there would even be “fans of the belts” a bit like it happens with car sports. fans would be guaranteed each year at lest three great fights…and likely several others, as the belts will need to find the best champions around to have their chance with the tournament. Four belts is actually the perfect number in such a scheme. It would work like the four colours in “calcio fiorentino”, where in fact there are also four teams, with two dates each year, one for the semifinals and one for the final (though in calcio fiorentino the two dates are both in June, but that is a team sport so it is manageable in one month. Box would require one year, hence one date in summer and one in winter).
Rather than buy out the promotion companies, why not buy all the sanctioning bodies. Then they’ll have the power to enforce exciting mandatories and can actually make the champions fight each other. That achieves the same goal as the league without having to make a complicated league structure
Love to see it happen. Unfortunately over half the “ champions “ out there will all of a sudden find enough $ to retire. Boxing has become a joke. I’m afraid that no matter what Turk does he can’t stop corruption. Paid off refs and judges are the main weapons of the promoters and regardless of what you pay them the promoters can offer a little extra to see things their way.
Buying up the promotions is less helpful than buying up all the belts, then binning them. You need promotors to sell fights, most fighters are not gobby salesmen, so you need a mouth to get people excited. Its all about priorities, getting everyone paid and fairly, getting excitement and atmosphere and lastly getting everyone shiny belts imo.
Hell no. This is not at all, not in the least, good for boxing. This is the worst possible thing for boxing to occur in a long time. The fact you think it is a good idea goes to show how utterly clueless you are about the politics, and I don’t mean boxing politics.
If anyone knows the UFC politics, matchmaking, pay etc. this is just gonna be a rehash of that but with 1000x the money being thrown around.
There needs to be change the UFC model is not it. That causes less rights for the boxers, a lot less money for the boxers, less freedom to do what they want. The UFC model is horrible for fighters and isn't any better for fans, as fighters are still protected, the number of fights is around the same as modern boxers which is low compared to the past and drug use is rampant.
Th UFC pay structure sucks, 100%, and will not be carried over to Boxing BUT...The fact that all fighters are in the same promotion and can not duck each other is essential for this broken sport with hundreds of WorldChamps.
@@zGJungle How do we know it won't be carried over, the people creating this would make lots of money if they did. Fighters were not under the same promotion in the past when no ducking occured, and that was because a loss meant so much less, as your ability was based off of what was seen in the ring, it is the fans fault and fighters who left undefeated due to avoiding which is the issue. UFC has protected fighters and ducking occuring all the time. Make it so there are less belts that's how you do it not just have a UFC style promotion 🤦♂️
@zGJungle they can be in the same promotion and still duck each other or get 'underserved' title shots, happens all the time in the UFC too....
The model is fantastic, they just need to pay better. It’s a simple fix!
@@ethnicalbert but why would they pay more this model is designed around paying less. What is fantastic nothing will change and without other major promotions things could get much worse
This would be brilliant
The best finally fighting each other
And the drug cheats gone for good
They should take a leaf out of the old WWF and have midcard belts, like the Intercontinental Championship, European, Hardcore and Divas titles
I said this on one of your videos not long ago.
Turki to come in and set up a ufc model and fvck the alphabets off.
Fridge Magnet belt looooool
🤣😂🤣😅😆😆
Absolutely needs to happen. Boxing has been cannibalising itself with these belts and sanctioning bodies for some time now. The idea of being a "world champion" is completely meaningless if there could be hypothetically 3 other fighters claiming to be the "real" champion, because they have a different coloured belt. It's so hard to be undisputed not only in a boxing sense, but a bureaucratic sense too, all the bodies want a piece of the pie. Scrap them all, why should we be loyal to them? What loyalty do we owe to them? They don't give af about the fans
Glad you got the bag but sad to see propa turn into propaganda for the new establishment.
😬🙄🙄🙄🤦🏾♂️
P.s mma , ufc , all crap. Only boxing talk.
The Turkey is truly excellent
If it destroys the alphabet organisations then its a good thing
Get weight cutting out of the sport as well.
Weigh in the night before and another as they walk out.
A weigh in on the way to the ring can be a feature of the fight, and have back up fighters just in case.
The fighters that miss weight don't get paid a penny and after a while fighters that screw up and miss weight just won't get fights booked, that'll spark a change in attitude from fighters and we'll get better fights.
We had weigh in's the day before the fight, didn't really work out did it?
Do you recall Gatti vs Gamache? Arturo gained like 20lbs in 24 hours.
Joey ended up brain damaged. Weigh in should be morning of the day fight is scheduled. And reweighing before leaving dressing room
One of the things i like about UFC is that people dont get binned as soon as they take a loss because the best are fighting the best.
Whereas boxing has so many journeymen to pad fighters records and make them seem invincible.
Yeah with the UFC you assume that people are going to be taking a loss here or there, it's only if they start having a consistent string of losses that you start to lose faith in a fighter - even then some of them have turned that around.
Well look how people treat Fury now that he's lost. This is your own faults. If you were more accepting of losses, fighters wouldn't fear taking risks.
@@TheStraightestWhitest To be fair Fury is a cocky bastard and a lot of people are just glad to see him be taken down a peg. Even as a Fury fan I want to see him be more humble.
@@TheStraightestWhitestfury gets that treatment cause hes a clown and had held up the hw division for years
Three cheers for the double excellent, Turki Alalshikh…
Every time I try and explain the belts to my wife she responds with, “That sounds stupid”. And I’m forced to say, “Yup”.
The Manny charr 3% to the WBC =£4 had me in stitches for ages😂😂😂
When you think about it, the belts have very little real value at all, as Tyson was suggesting in the clip. Yes famous fighters have won them in the past, but where did the belts actually come from? Who invented them? Famous former fighters? No. Lawyers and businessmen mainly, who you've probably never heard of. They literally met in a boardroom one day and said "Let's create our own boxing belt, why not?" and the rest is history. As I said, they have very little real value at all
But 3% of wilder was buttons compared to 3% of Joshua. But WBC wouldnt force Wilder to fight Joshua.
Theres more to the finances than that
Fantastic idea, at present you can have world champions who fight nobodies and avoid the fighters that all fans know will be dangerous to them, to avoid the risk, but they still claim to be the best in the world.
Hope it happens, one world champion at each weight
6:17 The Jarrell Miller impression was gold.
this guy just called frank martin a cherry pick 😭
🤣
Let's be fair, the only belt left with any credibility is the ring,
Back to the old days is a good idea, 1 belt to rule them all!!!! And in the darkness.....
Sorry carried away
1:58 what the actual hell
So like a ufc for boxing? I don't know. The ufc is super dodgy, and not exactly perfect
Love your content brother. We need more. Would love if the double excellent turkey gives propa a job❤
The UFC is losing its ability to claim that it has "the best fighting the best" every year as it declines to sign quality talent. A combination of these guys not wanting to get peanuts to fight and the UFC not wanting to pay top dollar for fighters with lesser name value has pushed the UFC to favour self made talent through Dana White's Contender Series and The Ultimate Fighter tv shows, who are often regional level fighters willing to fight for $10k/$10k. There are world beaters in Bellator/PFL, ONE Chamionship, KSW and Oktagon, but the casual UFC watcher doesn't watch those, so the UFC doesn't care. These guys are sometimes offered to join DWCS or TUF and decline - as they should. It's sad to see.
I could also imagine a similar problem emerging everntually with a Boxing Super League. But this is still a good first step for boxing overall.
Keep holding hands anything can happen ❤
About fucking time someone stepped in to clean up the boxing mess!
I've been saying for years that there were too many belts at world level. I didn't even try to count the others. 1 world belt per weight... and make fewer weight classes as well.
BOSH
you make alot of valid spot on points..
But your NAIVETY on drug use is mind boggling....ALL TOP SPORTSPEOPLE use drugs...ALL.
BOSH
170 champions and, 1,047 championship belts?!?!?!?! Thats F'ing ridiculous that makes absolutely no damned sense.
1 belt, 3 contender belts…and champion without injury gotta fight 3 times a year
Pay CASH EVERYWHERE you go people, it's EXTREEMLY IMPORTANT, just do it, don't be lazy
Mauricio salami 😂fantastic
This is why being a champion isnt as meaningful as it once was. Dilute anything and it gets weaker. There was a time where EVERYONE, boxing fan or not knew who the Heavyweight champion was. Everyone knew Marciano, Louis, Liston, Ali, Foreman, Tyson etc. Now how many people know today that Usyk is? That Fury was? That Wilder was? Larry holmes once said being Heavyweight champion was like being the big toe of God. Now its like being one of the arse hairs that he pulled out while wiping after takiing a dump. And times that by 1000 in the lighter divisions. That and fighters fighting once or twice a year have ruined the sport. Fighters need to fight. Im a lifelong boxing fan and its rare that I actually watch boxing anymore. I most definitely dont pay to view it. Because I know the majority of these fights are cherry picked crap that wont be in the slightest but competitive, and if ut does happen to be, a corrupt or negligent judge who hasnt taken a punch in his life will most likely ruin the outcome with their decision, destroying the entire point of the fight to begin with. Like Tank Davis is a great fighter. But who tf was the guy he fought last night? Never heard of him in my life but that was ppv?? I remember when ppvs were special events, two great fighters who you didnt know who was gonna win. Now theyre on every week with some no name cab driver fighting whoevers been on too for the last 5 years or the heavyweight champion fighting a guy whos having his very first pro fight. If you told anyone that 30 years ago that that would be a major ppv boxing event, they wouldve laughed and said "Yeah I saw Rocky too!" Boxing continues to give itself so many black eyes its no wonder why its so blind today.
I dont see how leagues are possible in boxing, What happens with injuries and cuts? You'd need a bunch of substitutes
Yep.....I completely agree with old Propa on this. There's far too many versions of the world title in professional boxing nowadays......far too many world championship belt holders all claiming to be the legitimate World champion, and its all gotten well out of hand.
From everything I've seen from Turkey Alasheik.....he's been nothing but good for the sport of boxing ..... so far.
And to steal a phrase from good old Propa.......NO MORE BUMFLUFFERY! 😂
Been watching the sport for over 50 years...couldn't care less about belts. I know who the champions are. Shame about the cherry picking.
I was skeptical about Alalshikh for a long time, but he's turbocharged boxing like no non-boxer ever has, so I've jumped on the bandwagon. I love the idea of promoters being reduced (while making more money) to the role of contractors. I love the drug-testing aspect. I love the idea that stars won't be able to hold belts hostage while pursuing vanity projects. Et cetera, et cetera. And even if we look back ten years later and say, "Yeah, THAT went over like a lead balloon," at least it can't be worse than what we've had for the past 15-20 years. I prefer the Saudi dude over the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, Top Rank, PBC, et al, and all the PPV companies.
I will support this idea, only if Fury V Chisora is part of the arrangement! Boxing fans have been clamouring for the 4th edition of this barn burning competition!!!! PS F&^k yeah, Boxing Super League! Go Turkey man go!
F8ck it. One Sheik to rule them all. Sure as hell beats all the fights we DID NOT GET TO WITNESS OVER THE YEARS! Wilder v Joshua will never happen, and if it does it's past it's prime. We could get a golden age like the welterweights in the 80's or the heavyweights in the 70's. The talent was there for the heavies they just didn't put the best guys together and now it'll be Joshua v Usyk, again, if we want the top two fighters in the division. Maybe Parker is born again I just don't see him as the future of the division.
I think the Super League Should have 2 Belts for each Weight Class. Win By KO, Stoppage Or clear 5 points and or Knockdown means you can take the Opponents Belt. (Solid Convincing win Basically)
Win by close points with no knockdown means Opponents can keep their belts and rematch must be fight after next
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Boxing also has more divisions than MMA. Even if there's this BSL in Saudi, there's still way more opportunity to be undisputed world champ in boxing.
If this is a surprise to you....then I am surprised
I'd like it to happen. Unify the titles and have ONE world champion. It's never going to happen though in my opinion. Sadly.
The 1000+ world champions is a farce!
Great idea BUT even buying the fighters contracts from promotors wouldn't fix it, you'd need NEW contracts.
Regular fights every 4-6m , conditions , penalties for turning down fights etc etc in order to reach anything like the UFC level of consistency
BOLLIX RUINING THE SPORT RATHER WATCH FEKKIN WORLD OF SPORT WRESTLING ON A SATURDAY MORNING !!!!!!!
I’m sorry, but anyone that thinks any sport is “PED” free is just naive. It’s not just test or growth, igf, sarms/serms, peptides, inhalers all sorts. These are multi million £ assets, and “it’s not PED’s when it’s meds”
I read a scientific paper the other day about nicotine pouch usage in professional football. Every sport, they’re on it in one form or another.
The only reason it’s frowned upon is because of advertising- that’s it. It’s billions of $ in boxing, supplements, clothes al based on you being able to achieve it. If you want to know what boxing looks like without PED’s go watch amateur boxing
Too many belts already, I haven't even heard of some 'champions' and I watch as many cards as I can. Imagine having 5 different World cups in football, only in a few of them only nations you couldn't pick out on a map turn up. Argentina would be the real FIFA champions, but Turkmenistan would be FLOOFA World champions.
Load of old bollocks. I'm all for boxers earning their cheese, but ffs, no more belts or we end up with domestic level fighters having one, or clowns that can't even box like Wilder.