I felt like such an important accident deserved a remake, so here’s “The Disaster of N72EX” remastered with new audio, better information, and more accurate animations. Also, I would like to express my deepest condolences to the families of those who have lost their loved ones on board the helicopter. 😢
I think you remade this video for views. You liked at comment on your last video which commended you for not feeling it necessary to mention who this tragedy impacted. “Basketball Tragedy” What changed??? That last comment got thousands of likes because people felt that your motivation for making the video was for educational purposes and not done just for clicks. Funny how millions of views can change things.... Disappointed!
Maybe Mr Bryant shouldn’t have been a pushy prick who fired multiple pilots over nonsense and forced his favorite to fly under severely compromised conditions.
Some of the responses to my comment are bizarre. Why are people so disgusting? If a tragic thing were to happen like this to your family, would you want someone to stay stupid shit like that? Also, in no way was I implying that anyone was less significant than the other.
@@joenyc i think what he was trying to say is with that bad weather conditions, they should've just chosen to drive. so the hurry part is referring to how its only a 30 min flight in bad conditions, when u could take the safer option which is driving, even though it takes 2 hours. u could just wake up earlier in the morning and drive. that's what i would've done.
@@joenyc A very common situation in charter flights with rich passengers is that they push the pilot to continue so they can make their schedule, against the pilot's better judgement. It's called "get there itis." Several times in my flying career I have chosen to do a 180 out of a bad situation, circle around for an hour to re-assess it, and sometimes choose an alternate field and land in better conditions. The LA police helicopters were not in a hurry that day.
You experience the exact same disorienting feeling when you're sitting still and a car next to you begins to back up, and you feel like YOU'RE moving forward but they're sitting still. It's scary as hell.
@@nealsmall9316 yes. But they aren't buried in a marked grave bc of the bombardment of fans that have tried to gather at their graves. Whether they are actually buried or not I don't think is the question. Just where. It makes sense not to mark the graves to give the family time to grieve and find some peace.
If someone gets removed from the job, because of a fuel stop.. or "not being liked" Thats too much pressure to just do exactly what the customer wants.. instead of whats safe Situations like that get people killed sooner or later
Exactly i don't care if people don't like my comment. The fact is Coby is the one who put everyone's lives in danger. You don't fire good pilots because it doesn't suit you're liking...........
Exactly, that’s what many people don’t understand about corporate aviation. You don’t depart because the ceilings are too low for a safe flight? Turns out your boss missed his meeting and you’re fired now. It would be great if we made the rich CEO’s and celebrities like this take an aeronautical decision making class so they can know the consequences of get-there-itis.
@Guy Incognito yup, and then if we do have a weather related emergency, I’m the one that gets in trouble with the FAA for it. So either I lose my corporate flying job, or risk killing myself and others and getting violated by the FAA for it. Really a great outcomes there😀. I’d rather work in fast food than be a pilot for some asshole celebrity.
@@thefutbolwhale7011. Zobayan started flying with island express 10 years ago. Kurt deets was Kobe’s pilot from 2014-2016. Zobayan began flying kobe thereafter. Get your facts straight noob
The visual effects are so realistic, I felt as if I were actually on the helicopter myself! A scary feeling. Such a devastating loss for all those poor souls. God rest them.
@@haywoodyoudome it doesn’t matter who it it! Nobody is an exemption from dying. We all have to see our maker sooner or later. Some people go sooner. My daughter passed away at 19. Do you think when I had her that she will die before me?
@@fabsoltero578 Sorry to hear of your loss. I was being sarcastic and agree with you completely. Unfortunately fame and fortune make people feel invincible and far too many are intimidated into taking risks as a result.
And police helis are super equipped and their pilots are trained veterans, but hey, Bryant's favorite "pilot" can't tell the difference between climb and descent and goes blind thru a fog in a mountain area...yet he's flying 8 people
@@lithium25693 I wouldn’t blame Kobe... Actually, knowing the kind of guy he was, I’m sure if Kobe fully knew the situation, he wouldn’t have chosen to fly that morning and put himself and his daughter and those other families at risk... But who was going to explain the situation to him? Most of the time, for these pilots and chauffeurs, etc their job is to shut up and get the client where they want to go, because time is money... They’re going to try and find a way to get them there, come hell or high water, before they break it to the client that their personal flight is delayed. Sadly, that CAN have deadly consequences.
I'm not sure I agree. PD choppers aren't generally used to transport people from A to B. Rather, they support units on the ground and must have excellent visibility to be effective at that. They can't fly much above 1000 feet to do so. A transport helo can.
My dad, an experienced flight instructor, used to call this “gotta-get-there-itis“. It’s the pressure to fly in poor conditions when the flight should be delayed/cancelled. He said it crashed more aircraft than anything else. Great video.
I wasn't even a basketball fan and I was deeply saddened by this loss as I remember one of my musical heroes Stevie Ray Vaughan died in a very similar accident. RIP to all.
RIP EVERYONE WHO WAS ON BOARD. I JUST CANT GET OVER THIS. VANESSA AND THE OTHER FAMILIES IM PRAYING FOR YALL. YOUR LIVES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. LIFE IS SOMETHING MONEY CAN'T BUY.
@@janetlavender5170 I’ve been a Kobe fan since the beginning... lost my grandmother, girlfriend lost grandfather.. 2020 sucks.. it’s crazy how much time has passed and I still get sad for those involved and their families... especially the kids that didn’t get to grow. Man... you never know when your number is up.. if you believe in God, seek him.. if you don’t, do some research cuz you’ve been lied to.
Tomorrow is not promised, no guarantee of a next breath. Not much in this world you can control but you can control what you do. We have to do better as people and that starts with the person in the mirror. Treat each other better each day and live each moment like your last... ✌️
Honestly, like he died and it was a tragedy. Then we got Covid and many started dying, but the death of thousands are being treated as a statistic... I guess as Joe Stalin once said, “The death of one man is a tragedy, but the death of many is a statistic”
The whole accident is completely devastating especially since it could have been avoided but as stated in the video, Kobe had grown accustomed to using that helicopter as well as that particular pilot so his comfort level was truly at ease with the pilot's decision making skills. Unfortunately mother nature intervene and contributed to the fatal accident. Rip to the victims and the surviving family members may you find some form of solace.
@downboogieb: We ALL have a “shelf life” an “expiration date “. All those on that helicopter 🚁 had an appointment TO KEEP...and each were ON TIME. Please, I am not trying to be insensitive here, but that is a REALITY. No matter how old, how rich/poor or how well known anyone is...we ALL have a DEATH APPOINTMENT CARD issued the day of our birth and the appointment will be KEPT and we will be ON TIME. What I pray is that they ALL had accepted JESUS. We may THINK we do NOT need HIM, but we can not afford to leave here without HIM. Death IS NOT THE END but the beginning of ETERNITY. If we have accepted JESUS, then we are safe in heaven with HIM and experiencing true rest and peace, but, on the other hand if we did NOT, there is NO REST or PEACE in hell. If a soul have been in hell for a BILLION years, it has NOT even started ETERNITY. GOD exist and so does heaven and hell. GOD is NOT in heaven playing games with us and we should take the wonderful message of JESUS more serious than we do. We are only PREPARED if we have invited CHRIST into our lives then WHEN death comes, we have NOTHING TO FEAR. We can say to death, like Clint Eastwood in one of his movies, “GO AHEAD, MAKE MY DAY”. Those 9 souls are in ETERNITY now, heaven or hell - I do NOT KNOW, but THIS MOMENT is your opportunity to run 🏃 to JESUS and ask HIM into your heart before it is too late. I have (1973) and I am looking forward to the day when I will see my sweet LORD face to face. Even so, come QUICKLY, LORD JESUS. Normal is NOT coming back but JESUS is.....READY? Maranatha 8/14/2022.
@@samreilly1484 Sam, All had an appointment with death which they kept and were on time for. There is a heaven to GAIN and a hell to SHUN. Everyday, while we are on earth, we link the chains to where we will be spending ETERNITY.......HEAVEN or HELL. It is OUR CHOICE where we will go. OUR CHOICE!
BTW, the graphics of this video are absolutely brilliant in detail, including the recreation of the actual weather conditions. It's as close to actually being there as one can get. Great job!
Next time you are riding a bike. Close your eyes. You may feel like you are turning when you are going straight. You may be turning while you feel you are driving straight. You will feel like you are going to crash when you are not. This is what spacial disorientation feels like.
Especially if you do it in a giant tour bus equipped with millions of dollars worth of fun shit to do. No reason for these celebrities to be in the air when they can ride in style and stay alive.
Having spent many many hours as a passenger with my father in a high performance small plane [a Mooney], I can attest to how easy it is to be disoriented as to up, down, left, or right when you can't see outside the plane. You have to keep your eye on your plane's instruments that tell you the plane's orientation and trust them. That didn't appear to happen here. It is simple to climb up and out of a low overcast, but you have to pay attention to the instruments.
Can you explain how becoming disoriented happens? I just can't imagine I'm sitting in my seat and can get so disoriented that I can't tell up from down.
@@lonib213 Certainly! Imagine that you can not see anything out the windows. Everything is white; that is what happens when you are flying in a cloud. There is nothing to look at to orient yourself. Then when you are flying and the pilot pulls back on the wheel, you will feel the G force pulling you down into your seat so you will think that you are going up ..... but if the pilot also turns the wheel one way or the other you will start to go down not up. The more the pilot pulls up the tighter the turn and the faster you go down in an ever tightening spiral. It is called a death spiral. A trained pilot will give a little opposite rudder to keep the nose actually going up to counter the downward movement. You can't tell any of this is happening from your own senses. Usually you figure this out by looking out the window, but if you can't see......
Ride a bicycle and close your eyes for an extended period of time. You will think you're pedaling straight but you'll probably be going In some random direction and feel very disoriented and off balance
When time is a higher priority than life. Instead of “do whatever you can to keep us safe,” this pilot operated on “do whatever you can to get us there on time.”
@@verticalhairline huh??What exactly did he say??since you were there and heard what kobe said...why don't you enlighten us.....if you have recording that would be really helpful..
Ara was my neighbor and more importantly my friend. We bumped into each other not too long before the tragic accident, and before we parted ways he called me back and said "we should go bike riding on the beach again" I replied "yes! let's do it", and I continued in a hurry to get back to work (as usual), as he waved goodbye with that signature big smile on his face. Little do we know when it will be the last time you see someone. I was there when he was studying to get his license to fly (about the same time Kobe was coming to the Lakers btw), I was there when he was studying to get certified as a flight instructor.....he would invite me to fly in the chopper, I always responded with a "hell nah", he'd laugh and say, and I'm paraphrasing, it's almost impossible to crash in a helicopter. I'm still in a disbelief it ended this way with him, but if anybody knows Ara, and I'm bothered by cliches, but he was doing what he ABSOLUTELY LOVED to doi, unfortunately it was with passengers on board. Ara will be greatly missed, he was intelligent, always had a great big smile to greet you, and always wearing those damn cargo shorts lol 2Echo Xray you're clear to fly, FLY HIGH my friend ......................fly high 💚
That’s beautiful thank you for your personal story about Ara. I do hope Vanessa Bryant isn’t suing Ara’s family as stated in an article I read on line, I do indeed hope that was fake news. Sky high Ara 🦅
Veganista I'm truly moved by this post and its sad that we all dont know when we are going to leave this Earthly World wouldnt it ne a better Earthly World if we knew when we were going Home to Heaven Amen xxxxxxx we could then look at it as a celebration of Earthly life then the word used of death. But though us Good dont never die that's to final. We good we pass home to Heaven when called home by Father Jesus Amen xxxxxxx that not being able to know when we leave this Earthly World is again work of the wrong un devil. Who doest want us to celebrate Earthly life or passing home he hates all of us Good Human Beings. All of us pure souls the devil he hates because he can't turn us or corrupt us Good ever and he hates this fact plus he hates his ownself. As for his band of fools that support him they are satanic foolish idiots nobody could help. God Rest The Souls Of Every Good Human Being Amen xxxxxxx Home To Heaven Amen xxxxxxx With Our Ever Growing Ever Loveing Heavenly Family Amen xxxxxxx. I'm sorry for your loss my Sister or Brother. This Earthly life can be so cruel for the best of us Human Beings everybody though is Happy at home in Heaven Amen xxxxxxx sad to of left the Earthly World dont get me wrong. But Heaven is amazing I promise you so all the Good passed home to Heaven are all ok and enjoying Heavenly life Amen xxxxxxx Peace and Love to all of us Good Human Beings living on this Earthly World Amen xxxxxxx until all us Good meet again in Heaven Amen xxxxxxx
So unfortunate. I remember that day clearly. I was in school at the time in LA and when the news broke, my world kind of stopped. The whole day was drawn out and miserable. It was definitely cloudy that day. I didn't realize how much Kobe meant to me until he was gone. RIP for those on the flight.
Lol think about what the difference n LAPD helicopters and this helicopter and what there job is sometimes ya just got 2 think about shit it aint that hard 2 come up with a answer unless ur pretty dumb .
The pilot should have requested permission to land at Bob Hope/HBGP Airport in Burbank and waited until viability improved and then took to the air again.
@@michaelclayton2323 because Kobe had a bigger impact on people than the average man. It’s that simple. Do you mourn a strangers death as much as you would mourn a family members? No and that’s ok. It doesn’t make the other deaths any less tragic it’s just people tend to mourn the loss of someone who had an impact on them more than they mourn the loss of those they didn’t know/weren’t familiar with
@@Cocogirl44 Kobe did not had an impact on my life at all. I never met the man. He was not even a family member of these people that had comments as well. When the Titanic went down, all lives matter. I am using humanoty compassion and not putting any man above God.
After reading the text at 14:18, I know for sure when death comes nothing comes correctly, it's just unavoidable and even the right thing goes wrong. R.I.P to all who died in that crash! Thank you for the video as well!
I lived in EL Segundo for several years, just south of LAX and fairly close to the Ocean. In the summertime, there would be a thick fog every morning that would only start to burn off at around 10am or so. I’m guessing it comes off of the Pacific.
I’m not a basketball fan. I never watch a game but somehow this tore me up. Kobe had a smile that was as bright as the sun. His daughter I can only hope didn’t know what was happening. The others I wish the same. RIP to all.
Helicopter crashes are literally all preventable but the companies don’t make efforts to have plans and mechanisms that are useful in case crashes happen.
@@ahmeddirie2138 that’s a stretch. Are some preventable sure. Are most preventable maybe. Are all preventable not unless we get rid of helicopters and never fly again.
All aircraft need to be treated as aircraft. This means recordings, black box, anything that can help, and a terrain alert system. Why in the world this wasn’t already required is beyond me.
I appreciate your comment, but a black box wouldn't have prevented this accident, if that's what you're suggesting. And if spatial disorientation is severe enough, a pilot may be unresponsive to external data, such as a terrain warning. This accident was caused by pilot error, and the core issue here is pilot competency.
@@nealsmall9316 --I've no opinion about that, sorry. I've followed only the aeronautical details of this accident and will be happy to discuss any topic within that range.
More instruments is great, but apparently this pilot failed to use the most basic flight orientation instruments.... Anyone who's seriously played a flight simulator game would glue their eyes to those instruments in such conditions.. You're performing a completely blind assent and you didn't check your angle of attack/artificial horizon instrument... So criminally avoidable..
I was living about 4 miles from JWA. That morning was foggy af. I can't believe any aircraft would be cleared to fly that day. This tragedy could have been absolutely avoided.
Not if all agreed to go It was just their time no matter how anyone looks At it or thinks of the lord wanted it to happen a different way he would have tvis is how it was supposed to happen with all of them together unfortunately but that’s life for you That’s Why none should take life or who they love for granted we just never know or how or when we will go but need to be prepared to meet God After death Is the judgement If One dies and is saved that means they go to heaven and live for eternity but if they are lost and choose with their free will to reject Christ they go to hell for eternity
There's a lot of blaming back and forth on this one but no one ever would have thought... This made me reevaluate so many things in my life. R.I.P. *John Altobelli Keri Altobelli Alyssa Altobelli Payton Chester Sarah Chester Christina Mauser Ara Zobayan Gianna Bryant Kobe Bryant.* May your loved ones be watched over.
The existence of rampant homelessness in the face of extreme wealth and excess should be having you "reevaluate" your life, all life. Weird priorities.
Rest In Peace to every soul that was on that plane. Such a sad story. Everybody including Kobe will forever be a legend in the world. See you on the other side. 🌍
It was boths fault Bryant and pilot,,Bryant blindly trusted on pilot and only wanted him to be his pilot and pilot made a silly mistake,,,this is so embarrassing
While safety is the number one factor it can be overshadowed with the mentality of “pleasing the customer”. It’s a really common bad habit that pilots fall into.
Shouldn't have been flying in the first place id rather get fired than forgetting about safety and having any ones blood on my hands while in fact putting myself in danger as well
@@akaliimaene2103 It’s really easy for anyone to say something like that in hindsight, when at the time you’d likely be thinking things such as “it’s really not that bad”.
@one nation exactly but kobe should of at least considered that its foggy lets travel by land this time could of took a limousine or drove his own. but R.I.P.
It’s so sad to see how close they were to the academy. And it seems like they didn’t know they were going to crash until it happened. God, my heart breaks for them all.
I've always wondered that, did they know that they were about to crash and panicking, or were they just riding along and all of a sudden... Boom. I also wonder if Vanessa got to see them and talk to them before they left that morning or was she still asleep?
@@MiamiBlossom I have the same thought with every plane crash that happens on the news, like if they panicked and what their last thoughts were and if they got to hold their loved ones hand (if they were together on the plane). I always, always hope that most don’t even realize, or they’re asleep, then it’s over and there’s nothing, no pain, no tears, no present thought. And I’m sure the entire family were probably all up that morning, since it wasn’t super early in the morning (I hope they were at least).
Just seeing the helicopter lift off the ground gives off such a gut wrenching feeling because there was a moment where everything after that was unknown. RIP Everyone 💔
It was never unknown. These are sell outs to the devil. I don't know celebs kids are thrown into this but just to keep it lighter, Kobe most likely signed his kids death wish the moment the devil came to him for more skills & riches. This story has the classic of wanting to play god hence why all proof of predicting this crash... Add into all the coincidental prior and post crash.. At this point it's Satan's tagging without using pain and side buildings.
Gotta wonder how much chatter was going on in the cockpit? Was this pilot Kobe's favorite because they got along well and the pilot was distracted by their conversation?
John Altobelli Keri Altobelli Alyssa Altobelli Payton Chester Sarah Chester Christina Mauser Ara Zobayan Gianna Bryant Kobe Bryant, all of these people passed. I have to finally give up on the grief and sadness, but i can't stop. Rip all of you beautiful and loved souls!
Without the use of commas between names it appears to be one long name which hardly does the victims the respect of distinguishing them from one another.
Thank you for listing all the names, it's very important that they be remembered also. Pay no attention to the Grammer squad, they're just having bad days and thought it'd make em feel better to go bully someone who is showing love to all who perished in this horrific tragedy. Good job @No_Emotions and @inkyguy. Hope you feel better now.
@@MinisterJokes 😂 I'm actually having a great day, stop assuming things. Also, I really don't give a fuck about the people that died. He/she needs to put commas when they're listing something or someone. Just because we told them to put commas when listing things, doesn't mean were having a bad day and we aren't bullying him/her, dumbass.
We went skydiving this same day in Lake Elsinore. The fog was so bad.. even hearing after the crash we went. Was a rollercoaster of emotions. RIP to kobe and Gianna , and all those on the helicopter. This loss was definitely felt around the world
I was in a U.S.Army Chinook helicopter , my platoon( 45 men, combat loaded ) was being airlifted. We ran Into heavy fog. The Chief Warrant officer put that chopper down and said" we wait for it to clear, or you can start walking "! We waited
It sounded like pilots in that company would get fired for saying no to clients, but I agree with you and thank you for making this point. That weather is sketchy to me too.
@@avikfett1551 there was a few years where it seemed like military helicopters were crashing almost every month, while just transporting and not in combat
I used to own a car service in Napa Valley. Can confirm that most celebrities are a nightmare. (Never being told no has a corrosive effect on the human spirit.) Can't imagine the pressure faced by pilots in private aviation.
I remember this day in SoCal. I'm about 1.5 hours east in the desert. That morning was the thickest, most bizzare fog I've *ever* seen in SoCal. It was weird... it must be noted that the pilot had to deal with some extremely oddball weather that morning... this was literally 1 in a billion weather/fog for the region that day...
I find it comforting that the pilot was not in distress and hopefully the passengers were unaware of the danger/fate until it happened. It's heart breaking to think they were terrified leading up to it.. but maybe that wasn't the case
By the time all this happened they could have almost been there by Car in early Am. No traffics! Better safe then sorry...Rip!...for family so sorry for your loss🙏
@@siry5164 Fame has brought him arrogance to travel by car where he can fly in style.. It is the others who died on his heli who are the real unfortunate ones.
I was there in Calabasas the previous night, dropping off a passenger for Uber, and there was some pretty bad fog then, especially in the hills. It’s crazy to think that Kobe and the others, crashed in a helicopter there the next morning. They almost crashed into Hidden Hills, which is even more crazier, considering a lot of celebs, that I’m sure Kobe knows lives there.I believe the helicopter crashed just past it, by maybe a mile or two. I’m not sure if it was the same side as Hidden Hills, which is the north side of the 101 freeway. I heard it crashed near Las Virgenes Rd.
Hindsight is 2020 but he has traveled this way for years as a way to make it easier on him and allowed more time with his family. It’s a 2 hour drive by car if there isn’t any issues but there is always issues. He just as easily have died because of the fog while driving in some awful wreck with a tanker truck. Then everyone would be bitching “oh why didn’t they just take the copter that day”.,
@@wholovesu2 but the thing is helicopter crashes are always nasty, doesn't matter who's flying it or what ur flying in. like all the crashes of helicopters i've heard basically for all my life that i know of, max like 1 people survive. Sometimes like 3 or 2 people survive but its still really hard to survive that.(per crash), but most times all the people are dead. if i had to choose whether id want to be in a helicopter crash or a car crash i would pick a car crash. higher chance of surviving then in a helicopter crash.
Classic disorientation case. I was never certified IFR, but my instructor trained me to make scanning my instruments a normal part of my area scans. He once put an IFR training hood on me to simulate an accidental entrance into IFR conditions. I was taught how to rely on my instruments to make a 180 turn to leave the way I came to return to VFR.
I was 100 feet away from EX that morning. I was prepping to depart in a citation. Saw Kobe family and friends get in. Mentioned to my co pilot that the weather was crappy for VFR flight. Kobe was always at SNA and a regular at Atlantic Aviation. We departed and landed in salt lake. The TVs were on talking about a crash in calabasas. I knew it was Kobe’s helicopter. Such a horrible feeling
I worked for Atlantic Aviation at north Philly airport for several years as an aircraft Mechanic and later as an Avionics technician .I got to test fly aircraft after we completed maintenance on the airframe or the avionics. It was an all night schedule that I did not like, but working on the airplanes and test flying was fun. I got to see Grace Kelly and help board her on the bosses private jet. It was a fun job and loved having free flights on cooperating airlines!
@@sahulsathik5857 That is a busy airport! I worked for a commuter airline as an aircraft mechanic and as an avionics tech. We worked night shift from 10 pm until 7;00AM.I got to test fly several General aviation aircraft but nothing very fancy...no jets.I enjoyed metal fabrication the best. We had several Nord's that had a nasty habit of dropping their landing gear Pods!.
I drove through those mountains that morning 20 minutes before the crash. I was shocked as to how foggy it was, and this was on the ground. It was so thick I could barely see the road ahead of me.
Dangmei, you are absolutely right! The other pilots that Kobe was not happy with because of refueling and personality issues would have safely gotten to the destination. Would I want a asshole elite surgeon operating on me, or a incompetent nice guy?
The pilot was a experience pilot he actually did his training hours at Van Nuts airport he should have known that Calabasas is a heavily foggy area....he should have landed at Van Nuys airport and let Kobe and the rest of the passengers travel buy Hired driver's and the pilot could have processed to Camarillo airport a few hours later. This is Not Monday morning quarter backing , may they all rest in peace.
I completely agree with you. He lost his common sense judgement because he was dazzled at having such a major celebrity on board, and it cost 9 people their lives. So unnecessary.
@@annbolyn4910 Tho I'm NOT a pilot I would refuel the Helicopters for the Fire Department and I know that area well.... They our pilots would NOT fly to Malibu from Pacoima under those conditions.
"Weather conditions today in the area of Los Angeles are very poor with limited visibility and thick fog"..a reason they shouldnt have flown in the first place
@@Repoocn Bummer. I had a dream about Kobe around 2008/2009ish and then the next day I met a dog named Kobe. I read about a person that stated in a tweet in 07 they had a vision of his crash. Crazy. The world really loves this man.
R.I.P to everyone in the flight. I'm especially sorry for the children who never got to grow up completely. Wishing the best for everyones family members who lost
Can’t believe this was more than a year ago already. So many bad choices were made that day . Rest In Peace to all of them . I hope their families find peace
What a terrible year, I don’t expect anything to get better with 20 forced vaccines and humans becoming so fucking distant from each other, fat, weak immune systems, and antisocial.
@@jimmyrodasmolestina979 I know what you mean, this Kobe crash is way down the list on what matters most today,...lets think about the regular people not over paid basketball players.
@@JohnnyBGood11 @JohnnyBGood11 my heart goes out to anyone who may have lost their life so tragically..it doesn't matter if you're a celebrity or not..I'm not going to negate the fact that this is a sad situation especially for those babies because of covid 19 🙄🤦
Seems to me like External Pressures played a large role in the incident. Upon his disability to maintain VFR aborting the flight would have been a great option. Considering his experience with IFR/IMC (CFII), he probably felt confident he could manage the conditions, but it wasn't even legal to begin with :/ Zobayan's employer doesn't permit IFR so it's possible he wasn't as proficient in operating under actual IMC as he assumed he was. Seems as though Ara was more concerned with how Kobe would have reacted if he had to ground the flight, rather than flying safely.
@@mental720s Absolutely, as PIC it was his job to fly safe/legal but his ego may have been the issue. Not an excuse for him, just throwing my 2 cents to see what anyone else thinks. Shouldn’t jump to any conclusions though until NTSB is done with their job.
@@philnightjar1971 I don’t know the actual stats on that, but two heads is typically better than one. Another comment from a former military member on this section said that more often than not helicopters are equipped with more than a single pilot because of this reason.
In corporate aviation, pressures are put on the pilots to fly by clients independent of safety considerations. Those who turn down the assignments for safety eventually will find themselves on the unemployment line. Those that don’t keep their jobs, but this is the cost.
I can only imagine how hard this video must be for his wife/children /parents/siblings/family members of all those traveling alongside Kobe to watch. I know this because of how tremendously difficult it was for me to watch and I never spent one day with him, except by way of television. RIJ beautiful souls.
I’ve been caught in fog in my car and became somewhat disoriented. I cannot imagine adding a third axis. The words “No one survived.” are some of the saddest on RUclips.
@@landen99 I have sufficient GPS / sonar electronics on my boat to navigate in my home lake in any visibility ...but can't because I can't see the "other fool" who thinks the same thing and he can't see me. It's not just having and using the instruments in a vehicle. Only in an approved, controlled IFR air flight. Without terrain avoidance capability this helicopter most certainly lacked necessary instruments.
I was driving through the mountains in Calabasas that morning about 1 hour before and in patches, could only see the brake lights of the car 100 feet in front of me. It was very foggy.
This video is fantastic, thank you. I take comfort in the fact that all on board likely never knew they were heading towards the side of a mountain. The pilot didn't even seem concerned or frightened. None of them knew what was going to hit them until it did, and it was quick. Rest in peace.
@Zsuzsanna Varga it most likely did help they are in a better place now, god pulled them out of this world so they didn't have to experience the horrible year of 2020
Coming up on a year already. This dreadful year of 2020 can't end soon enough. May all those who experienced loss and grief find comfort and peace in 2021 and beyond.
I’ve watched a million of these types of recreations and none of them made me feel anxious about what was happening. I don’t know why, but as the flight got closer to crashing my heart started beating faster and the more anxious I got almost like I was on the flight knowing what was coming… RIP to all on board!
Hope they were resting their eyes / in an excited chat before the crash, at least it didnt frighten them before the tragic... at least it happened real quick without them realising it... RIP Kobe & those onboard. 😔
I'll never forget thinking to myself as I drove to work in Los Angeles that the fog was the worst I have ever seen. When I got to work I heard the bad news and I knew what that pilot was up against. RIP to all onboard.
I thank the people on here who's comment recognize all the passengers instead of saying RIP Kobe, Giana and everyone else like they were nobody. I imagine with Kobe's celebrity status the pilot felt he had to make the flight no matter what the weather was considering all most everything else was shut down due to the weather. Another fine job tfc, take care and stay safe.
You know what weren't shut down, though? The roads. He could have just made the sacrifice and taken a 2 hour drive. Unfortunately, that's not how insanely rich people operate... they get what they want, when they want it, with no questions asked... and this time, sadly, that wealthy impatience resulted in tragedy.
Absolutely senseless! The pilot knew the weather was bad, yet , he decided to keep flying. No money 💰 is worth sacrificing nine lives. This is shameful and pathetic. Rest In Peace and condolences to these folks relatives and friends!
I remember the day i realised Kobe was dead. That was my first trip to the USA, and I was in Orlando. I had just came back from a shopping day and then, when I get in the hotel I see the guards all crying, so I go to the Lounge and look at the tv, I just couldn't believe what I was watching... That was one of the saddest days of my life. May Kobe rest in piece, and all the other victims
I live in the area where he was told to hold before going Northwest on the 5, and the fog was THICK that morning, thick enough to discourage people from driving on the freeway, let alone fly a helicopter. You couldn't see fifty feet ahead. He was basically flying blind, he had to have been.
Trust me! If Kobe was gonna fly in “thick enough fog to discourage other people from driving on the freeway, let alone flying in a helicopter” with several other people including his own preteen daughter and another preteen girl who was with both her parents, he might as well have also locked his two younger daughters in a room with a convicted child molester! I’m sorry to sound like such a broken record, but you could see 5 miles ahead when the helicopter took off! But you couldn’t even see an inch ahead when it crashed!
Well done, very logically unpacked! I have flown 20k+ hours in fixed wing aircraft, mainly under VFR but a considerable amount of IFR as well. On first hearing of this I presumed the heli was operating under instrument flight rules but on further watching this it becomes very clear what took place. Generally speaking, heli's tend to be safer under marginal wx than fixed wing as the pilot can slow to a crawl and set down if he really needs to. Given the amount of built up area he was flying over, setting down to wait for better wx or wait for ground transport was not looking like a great option. The question remains; why did this pilot continue a flight in such atrocious wx and put himself between layers where disorientation becomes a certainty? Apparently the pilot felt (or put himself under) extreme pressure to complete a flight that was completely unsafe from the get-go. He painted himself into a corner and apparently had no plan "b". Collision with power lines and other obstructions would have been a huge hazard which may explain why he chose to climb. Either way, entry into IMC wx in a helo without supplemental stabilization and adequate training and equipment ends in disaster every time. I find it odd that it seems the ntsb went to great lengths looking for equipment failure or some other explanation than human error. I don't believe that they want the public to know that a multi million dollar aircraft with mega rich pax's on board can crash the same as a Cessna 150 when pushed past the pilot and machines limit.
I would love to hear a response from a helo pilot who has flown in conditions like these and lived to talk about it. Like just how deep is spatial disorientation? Not a pilot myself although I have flown on and worked on helos myself in the navy. I have an understanding about how they are supposed to work. I know the instruments are there to help you, but I have no clue just how disoriented this guy had to have been in this situation, and just how much of a potential killer vertigo can be up there.
Can i ask your opinion. Do u think in any way with what happened, that someone influenced the pilot to just pursue the unthinkable and dangerous? Like perhaps a mentality of never say no, "just proceed " attitude. ? No names mentioned here.
From an experienced rotary wing maintainer, simply stated, he flew it into the dirt. It isn't unusual for a pilot to lose orientation in poor visibility situations and sometimes they just ignore instruments and fly the aircraft into the earth.
So were the passengers on board terrified knowing they were going to crash during this descending? Or were they all just sitting there and boom, it happened so fast they had no time to be frantic and didn’t know what was about to happen?
@@danieller3450 Because of the G-forces of the turn it probably felt like they were climbing, considering how thick the fog was if anyone saw it coming they wouldn't have had time to scream.. But the fact that the Pilot ignored his most basic flight instruments is INSANE to me - Someone who flew Flight Sim 10 as a kid..... His Artificial horizon instrument could've saved all of their lives if the Pilot just paid attention to it...
Years ago I had the guy teaching me to fly. At one point the guy started laughing. I thought I was flying level and the guy said, look your almost on your side. Spacial disorientation is a weird experience. He taught me to watch the instruments because with the plane at its proper attitude, your Looking Over the Horizon and can't see the ground as a reference. I can't believe that a lot of Pilots don't train with instrumentation. Even if you're not certified, at least learn something about it because it's very important as we have seen.
He was IFR rated, so it is not that he wasn't familiar with flying IFR. He may however have been rusty as his company only allowed VFR flights. With spacial disorientation and no TAWS on board, he only had seconds to figure out what was going on before flying into terrain. No one knows what he was doing the seconds before. He could have been looking at a map, finding a frequency or been distracted with something, phone call from the back compartment or 1000 other things. People die every year glancing at their phone for a second, now imagine flying an airplane while being distracted...
reading your comment, I am kind of shocked to hear, that there are pilots who dont know how to use their intruments properly... but hey, I only ride a bicycle :)
@@las10plagas It is not necessarily that the pilot didn't know how to use his instruments. He was instrument rated, so he had passed the certification for IFR flights. But, when he became disoriented, and probably under a lot of pressure to deal with a weather situation that was quickly escalating, with a demanding passenger in the back, he probably just was distracted or zoned out for a few seconds. The problem with spacial disorientation is that if you are not looking at the instruments, and no one does that the entire time in a VFR flight, your body doesn't really tell you when you are getting into trouble. It is like flying into a mountain in a fog. There is no indication there is anything wrong until you literally hit something.
Pilots not looking at instruments is bizarre af to me. I'm no pilot but I'm looking at my instruments even when I'm flying in gta. You're flying in a huge fucking metal box which is not supposed to fly. Why is looking at instruments not the most important thing??
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I felt like such an important accident deserved a remake, so here’s “The Disaster of N72EX” remastered with new audio, better information, and more accurate animations. Also, I would like to express my deepest condolences to the families of those who have lost their loved ones on board the helicopter. 😢
It's a great video, done with the utmost class and respect towards the victims -- as all of your work is.
Thank you for everything you do!
I think you remade this video for views. You liked at comment on your last video which commended you for not feeling it necessary to mention who this tragedy impacted. “Basketball Tragedy” What changed??? That last comment got thousands of likes because people felt that your motivation for making the video was for educational purposes and not done just for clicks. Funny how millions of views can change things.... Disappointed!
I doubt that. TheFlightChannel just makes videos for entertainment and when there are no new tragedies to report.
Hey @Theflightchannel can u make an update VIDEO of PK8303 A320
What happened to the audio of the ATC saying their altitude was too low soon before impact?
Gianna and two of her friends died. Little girls that didn’t have a chance to grow up. That to me is heart wrenching.
I only felt bad for the pilot lmao
Maybe Mr Bryant shouldn’t have been a pushy prick who fired multiple pilots over nonsense and forced his favorite to fly under severely compromised conditions.
A couple of parents died as well, and a coach. Very tragic.
Some of the responses to my comment are bizarre. Why are people so disgusting? If a tragic thing were to happen like this to your family, would you want someone to stay stupid shit like that? Also, in no way was I implying that anyone was less significant than the other.
@@chrisafp071 I disagree, that is a nasty thing to say.
"When you are in a hurry you are in danger." An aviation adage that applies to a lot of other things in life too.
i dont think it was implied that anyone was in a hurry
@@joenyc i think what he was trying to say is with that bad weather conditions, they should've just chosen to drive. so the hurry part is referring to how its only a 30 min flight in bad conditions, when u could take the safer option which is driving, even though it takes 2 hours. u could just wake up earlier in the morning and drive. that's what i would've done.
@@joenyc A very common situation in charter flights with rich passengers is that they push the pilot to continue so they can make their schedule, against the pilot's better judgement. It's called "get there itis." Several times in my flying career I have chosen to do a 180 out of a bad situation, circle around for an hour to re-assess it, and sometimes choose an alternate field and land in better conditions. The LA police helicopters were not in a hurry that day.
I thought this was a sailing adage. Interesting that it is said in aviation too!
LIKE SLEEPY JOE BIDEN RUSHING THRU TO BE PRESIDENT ELECT BEFORE HIS VOTER FRAUD IS DETECTED.🤣🤣🤣
No one ever mentions the poor girl who lost her father, mother, and sister in this crash. That's horrific.
Which girl is that?
@@Lindastyle Alexis Altobelli
It's so terrible. That girl lost Her whole family. She only has her brother!
But...but...it's Kobe...it's Kobe
@@scottnoble7306 yeah, and coach A.
You experience the exact same disorienting feeling when you're sitting still and a car next to you begins to back up, and you feel like YOU'RE moving forward but they're sitting still. It's scary as hell.
Thank you for this explanation/example.
@@haydenhodges34 you're very welcome 😁
@@ChRiStY4t5 Do you think Kobe Bryant and his daughter were ever buried
@@nealsmall9316 yes. But they aren't buried in a marked grave bc of the bombardment of fans that have tried to gather at their graves. Whether they are actually buried or not I don't think is the question. Just where. It makes sense not to mark the graves to give the family time to grieve and find some peace.
I don't get it
If someone gets removed from the job, because of a fuel stop.. or "not being liked"
Thats too much pressure to just do exactly what the customer wants.. instead of whats safe
Situations like that get people killed sooner or later
Exactly i don't care if people don't like my comment. The fact is Coby is the one who put everyone's lives in danger. You don't fire good pilots because it doesn't suit you're liking...........
I agree. Typical celebrity bullshit.
Exactly, that’s what many people don’t understand about corporate aviation. You don’t depart because the ceilings are too low for a safe flight? Turns out your boss missed his meeting and you’re fired now. It would be great if we made the rich CEO’s and celebrities like this take an aeronautical decision making class so they can know the consequences of get-there-itis.
@Guy Incognito yup, and then if we do have a weather related emergency, I’m the one that gets in trouble with the FAA for it. So either I lose my corporate flying job, or risk killing myself and others and getting violated by the FAA for it. Really a great outcomes there😀. I’d rather work in fast food than be a pilot for some asshole celebrity.
Supposedly he was a Trump supporter
A pilot has got to be able to say he's reached his limits without any repercussions from anyone. Otherwise these types of accidents will happen.
Common people have a hard time resisting the god-emperor celebrities. Especially those who are paying them.
True. If you can't tell someone to go to hell, you're in no position to negotiate.
Ya think!!!!
It sounds like good pilots who can make the right call were fired by Bryant. Like seriously, firing a pilot for stopping for fuel is ludicrous.
@Nutaarsiassat 67 the key to flight safety is an honest and just reporting culture. When you fire pilots that value those things, disaster lurks
Proof when an experienced pilot makes decisions based on fear of failure or disappointing a celebrity creates a perfect storm of tragedy
Dan Nelson define experienced? Having a lot of VFR hours in good weather does not make one experienced.
He was literally Kobe’s personal pilot for like 20 years. Dont think he was trying to impress him
@Nisi Castro wow, are you blaming the pilot here? Police heli's were grounded.
This was just a rush flight.
Get all the facts you guys. It wasn't the pilot he asked for them to reconsider flying that day before they took off
@@thefutbolwhale7011. Zobayan started flying with island express 10 years ago. Kurt deets was Kobe’s pilot from 2014-2016. Zobayan began flying kobe thereafter. Get your facts straight noob
The visual effects are so realistic, I felt as if I were actually on the helicopter myself! A scary feeling. Such a devastating loss for all those poor souls. God rest them.
“It’s better to lose one minute of your life than losing your life in one minute” RIP to all victims.
Amen! To that
That pilot should’ve put his foot down and told Kobe that he wasn’t going to take Kobe’s life into his hands. What a tragedy.
@@fabsoltero578 But it was Kobe!!! Who would dare say no to Kobe!!! C'mon...it was Kobe.
@@haywoodyoudome it doesn’t matter who it it! Nobody is an exemption from dying. We all have to see our maker sooner or later. Some people go sooner. My daughter passed away at 19. Do you think when I had her that she will die before me?
@@fabsoltero578 Sorry to hear of your loss. I was being sarcastic and agree with you completely. Unfortunately fame and fortune make people feel invincible and far too many are intimidated into taking risks as a result.
If LAPD grounds their copters, it's probably wise to follow suit
Rich people think the are above the law but the laws of physics dont care
And police helis are super equipped and their pilots are trained veterans, but hey, Bryant's favorite "pilot" can't tell the difference between climb and descent and goes blind thru a fog in a mountain area...yet he's flying 8 people
nooo, but some shit training is more important than safety and job security
@@lithium25693
I wouldn’t blame Kobe... Actually, knowing the kind of guy he was, I’m sure if Kobe fully knew the situation, he wouldn’t have chosen to fly that morning and put himself and his daughter and those other families at risk... But who was going to explain the situation to him?
Most of the time, for these pilots and chauffeurs, etc their job is to shut up and get the client where they want to go, because time is money... They’re going to try and find a way to get them there, come hell or high water, before they break it to the client that their personal flight is delayed.
Sadly, that CAN have deadly consequences.
I'm not sure I agree. PD choppers aren't generally used to transport people from A to B. Rather, they support units on the ground and must have excellent visibility to be effective at that. They can't fly much above 1000 feet to do so. A transport helo can.
I can tell just from the intro that you pulled out all the stops to make this video perfect. I love watching your recreations.
this video sucked.....way to long....you have no life
@@chadhaire1711 Shut up troll
@@chadhaire1711 shut up chad
@@chadhaire1711 It;s because its way to advanced for your liking, sorry. You can go back to your makeup tutorials or Minecraft Lets Plays.
@@termsconditionss Its too fucking long..some of us have life....
My dad, an experienced flight instructor, used to call this “gotta-get-there-itis“. It’s the pressure to fly in poor conditions when the flight should be delayed/cancelled. He said it crashed more aircraft than anything else.
Great video.
THIS WAS ONE OF THE SADDEST DAY EVER AND STILL WISH IT WAS FAKE NEWS RIP MAMBA🙏
not sad at all. not like we lost anyone special
Kobe's pressure on the airline company was a contributing factor, as explained on the video.
Everybody always talking about Kobe and Gianna what about all the other passengers on that plane
@@wiley0714 shut up.
Rich people are not that smart, the police choppers were grounded because of the thick fog.
This accident was the beginning of one of the crappiest years on record.
Yes, indeed.
What happened?
@@my83roadster4me Corona happened
Totally
Who knew it would continue into 2021!
R.I.P. to everyone who sadly died that day
I'm glad I saw a person saying RIP for everyone on board. I'm tired seeing everyone saying only RIP Kobe. THANK YOU
@Dusty Grady U good??
@Dusty Grady lol
@Dusty Grady RIP THE WHITE PEOPEL
@Dusty Grady They were all white dude, Kobe only looked black because of the fire smh
I wasn't even a basketball fan and I was deeply saddened by this loss as I remember one of my musical heroes Stevie Ray Vaughan died in a very similar accident. RIP to all.
why would you be saddened by a rapist's death, r e t a r d ?
This was one year ago. The world is so different. Seems like a lifetime.
ye
Preach 👏👏👏
This is was the first thing that made 2020 a shit show
Ya
crazy
It's still so unsettling nearly ten months later. Those lives gone in an instant.
RIP EVERYONE WHO WAS ON BOARD. I JUST CANT GET OVER THIS. VANESSA AND THE OTHER FAMILIES IM PRAYING FOR YALL. YOUR LIVES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. LIFE IS SOMETHING MONEY CAN'T BUY.
It's very unsettling. I agree with you.
Rookie pilot 🤦♂️ all people flying in planes are an instant away from death
@@janetlavender5170 I’ve been a Kobe fan since the beginning... lost my grandmother, girlfriend lost grandfather.. 2020 sucks.. it’s crazy how much time has passed and I still get sad for those involved and their families... especially the kids that didn’t get to grow. Man... you never know when your number is up.. if you believe in God, seek him.. if you don’t, do some research cuz you’ve been lied to.
Tomorrow is not promised, no guarantee of a next breath. Not much in this world you can control but you can control what you do. We have to do better as people and that starts with the person in the mirror. Treat each other better each day and live each moment like your last... ✌️
When this happened in early 2020 I thought that this was going to be the biggest story of the year. Little did I realize that I was very wrong .
C-C-C-C CORONA VIRUS ITS GETTING SH*IT IS GETTING REAL
That come Cardi B btw
I forgot that this happened this past year...
Honestly, like he died and it was a tragedy. Then we got Covid and many started dying, but the death of thousands are being treated as a statistic... I guess as Joe Stalin once said, “The death of one man is a tragedy, but the death of many is a statistic”
Kobe was murdered by the CCP
@@blmtrashjimmyisgay5507 100%
The whole accident is completely devastating especially since it could have been avoided but as stated in the video, Kobe had grown accustomed to using that helicopter as well as that particular pilot so his comfort level was truly at ease with the pilot's decision making skills. Unfortunately mother nature intervene and contributed to the fatal accident. Rip to the victims and the surviving family members may you find some form of solace.
It only seems avoidable in retrospect!
@downboogieb: We ALL have a “shelf life” an “expiration date “. All those on that helicopter 🚁 had an appointment TO KEEP...and each were ON TIME. Please, I am not trying to be insensitive here, but that is a REALITY. No matter how old, how rich/poor or how well known anyone is...we ALL have a DEATH APPOINTMENT CARD issued the day of our birth and the appointment will be KEPT and we will be ON TIME. What I pray is that they ALL had accepted JESUS. We may THINK we do NOT need HIM, but we can not afford to leave here without HIM. Death IS NOT THE END but the beginning of ETERNITY. If we have accepted JESUS, then we are safe in heaven with HIM and experiencing true rest and peace, but, on the other hand if we did NOT, there is NO REST or PEACE in hell. If a soul have been in hell for a BILLION years, it has NOT even started ETERNITY. GOD exist and so does heaven and hell.
GOD is NOT in heaven playing games with us and we should take the wonderful message of JESUS more serious than we do. We are only PREPARED if we have invited CHRIST into our lives then WHEN death comes, we have NOTHING TO FEAR. We can say to death, like Clint Eastwood in one of his movies, “GO AHEAD, MAKE MY DAY”.
Those 9 souls are in ETERNITY now, heaven or hell - I do NOT KNOW, but THIS MOMENT is your opportunity to run 🏃 to JESUS and ask HIM into your heart before it is too late. I have (1973) and I am looking forward to the day when I will see my sweet LORD face to face. Even so, come QUICKLY, LORD JESUS. Normal is NOT coming back but JESUS is.....READY? Maranatha 8/14/2022.
@@samreilly1484 Sam, All had an appointment with death which they kept and were on time for. There is a heaven to GAIN and a hell to SHUN. Everyday, while we are on earth, we link the chains to where we will be spending ETERNITY.......HEAVEN or HELL. It is OUR CHOICE where we will go. OUR CHOICE!
Hope everyone on that helicopter can Rest in Peace - such a sad tragedy.
they did rest in pieces.
@adam katt that's not funny. If u want to tell a joke then you can just say your name.
@mister poopies stop... you’re trying to be edgy and funny when really you look stupid
@@tiktiktok5703 I think it’s funny
@mister poopies I’m thinking mommy and daddy didn’t teach you manners
BTW, the graphics of this video are absolutely brilliant in detail, including the recreation of the actual weather conditions. It's as close to actually being there as one can get. Great job!
Well said
Fly simulator baby, probably 2021 or 2020
Yes your right .
..agreed. Very well done...
Great local detail on Hwy 5 and 101...
This accident kicked off a really shitty 2020, RIP to everyone on board
What about the downing of the flight in the first week of 2020 killing all on board due to trump actions.
@@andrebrown4445 oh shit up as soon as Kobe and Gigi died 2020 sucked already
How else was Lebron to become the face of the NBA if Kobe was alive. So they killed him.
@@24KinfO just shut up
I agree!!💯💯💯
Your level of research, the visuals and graphics are nothing short of astounding my friend.
Next time you are riding a bike. Close your eyes. You may feel like you are turning when you are going straight. You may be turning while you feel you are driving straight. You will feel like you are going to crash when you are not. This is what spacial disorientation feels like.
I did this and now I'm paraplegic
hi
@@LiquidSpartan117 u
@@LiquidSpartan117 Hahaha
I recommend that you don't close your eyes whilst riding a bike!
When you realize sitting in traffic for 2 hours, really ain't that bad!
Especially if you do it in a giant tour bus equipped with millions of dollars worth of fun shit to do. No reason for these celebrities to be in the air when they can ride in style and stay alive.
Sitting in traffic for 2 hours vs never making it to the destination. Which would you choose?
@@livelofivibe6892 Ride in style and stay alive until they get run off the road by some dumb ass and end up dying anyway.
@@jaxonmattox9267 a car surrounded by idiots in control of other cars
Or at the very least file an IFR flight plan
This is extremely sad, but it makes it 10x worse knowing that it could’ve been prevented 😢
If LAPD grounds their copters, it's probably wise to follow suit
@@blakeklob8797 couldn’t agree more.
they could have and should have drove,i think
@@blakeklob8797 stolen comment
But agreed
That's literally every death ever
Having spent many many hours as a passenger with my father in a high performance small plane [a Mooney], I can attest to how easy it is to be disoriented as to up, down, left, or right when you can't see outside the plane. You have to keep your eye on your plane's instruments that tell you the plane's orientation and trust them. That didn't appear to happen here. It is simple to climb up and out of a low overcast, but you have to pay attention to the instruments.
Can you explain how becoming disoriented happens? I just can't imagine I'm sitting in my seat and can get so disoriented that I can't tell up from down.
@@lonib213 Certainly! Imagine that you can not see anything out the windows. Everything is white; that is what happens when you are flying in a cloud. There is nothing to look at to orient yourself. Then when you are flying and the pilot pulls back on the wheel, you will feel the G force pulling you down into your seat so you will think that you are going up ..... but if the pilot also turns the wheel one way or the other you will start to go down not up. The more the pilot pulls up the tighter the turn and the faster you go down in an ever tightening spiral. It is called a death spiral. A trained pilot will give a little opposite rudder to keep the nose actually going up to counter the downward movement. You can't tell any of this is happening from your own senses. Usually you figure this out by looking out the window, but if you can't see......
Ride a bicycle and close your eyes for an extended period of time. You will think you're pedaling straight but you'll probably be going In some random direction and feel very disoriented and off balance
@@808melz yes, but I would feel if I was going down a hill or up a hill. Because of the slanting,
@@lonib213 Do you think the helicopter crash happened to fast for Kobe to know?
When time is a higher priority than life. Instead of “do whatever you can to keep us safe,” this pilot operated on “do whatever you can to get us there on time.”
This might sound bad , but we’re their bodies ever found?
@@i_Made_That yeah in really bad shape, you can look at the autopsy’s on reddit
Kobe told them to nerdneck
Those instruments are not there to be ignored your eyes can only help if they have a reference point and fog has many and no imperfections
@@verticalhairline huh??What exactly did he say??since you were there and heard what kobe said...why don't you enlighten us.....if you have recording that would be really helpful..
Ara was my neighbor and more importantly my friend. We bumped into each other not too long before the tragic accident, and before we parted ways he called me back and said "we should go bike riding on the beach again" I replied "yes! let's do it", and I continued in a hurry to get back to work (as usual), as he waved goodbye with that signature big smile on his face. Little do we know when it will be the last time you see someone.
I was there when he was studying to get his license to fly (about the same time Kobe was coming to the Lakers btw), I was there when he was studying to get certified as a flight instructor.....he would invite me to fly in the chopper, I always responded with a "hell nah", he'd laugh and say, and I'm paraphrasing, it's almost impossible to crash in a helicopter. I'm still in a disbelief it ended this way with him, but if anybody knows Ara, and I'm bothered by cliches, but he was doing what he ABSOLUTELY LOVED to doi, unfortunately it was with passengers on board.
Ara will be greatly missed, he was intelligent, always had a great big smile to greet you, and always wearing those damn cargo shorts lol
2Echo Xray you're clear to fly, FLY HIGH my friend ......................fly high 💚
sorry for your loss...let's just pray for him..
Respect🙏
That’s beautiful thank you for your personal story about Ara. I do hope Vanessa Bryant isn’t suing Ara’s family as stated in an article I read on line, I do indeed hope that was fake news.
Sky high Ara 🦅
Lies and made up bullshit nice try tho
Veganista I'm truly moved by this post and its sad that we all dont know when we are going to leave this Earthly World wouldnt it ne a better Earthly World if we knew when we were going Home to Heaven Amen xxxxxxx we could then look at it as a celebration of Earthly life then the word used of death. But though us Good dont never die that's to final. We good we pass home to Heaven when called home by Father Jesus Amen xxxxxxx that not being able to know when we leave this Earthly World is again work of the wrong un devil. Who doest want us to celebrate Earthly life or passing home he hates all of us Good Human Beings. All of us pure souls the devil he hates because he can't turn us or corrupt us Good ever and he hates this fact plus he hates his ownself. As for his band of fools that support him they are satanic foolish idiots nobody could help. God Rest The Souls Of Every Good Human Being Amen xxxxxxx Home To Heaven Amen xxxxxxx With Our Ever Growing Ever Loveing Heavenly Family Amen xxxxxxx. I'm sorry for your loss my Sister or Brother. This Earthly life can be so cruel for the best of us Human Beings everybody though is Happy at home in Heaven Amen xxxxxxx sad to of left the Earthly World dont get me wrong. But Heaven is amazing I promise you so all the Good passed home to Heaven are all ok and enjoying Heavenly life Amen xxxxxxx Peace and Love to all of us Good Human Beings living on this Earthly World Amen xxxxxxx until all us Good meet again in Heaven Amen xxxxxxx
I know if I'm in a helicopter with thick fog around me, as a passenger, I'm getting worried.
You'd think at the very least that all of the adults on that flight must have been thinking the same thing.
I know if I'm in a helicopter, I'm getting worried because there's no way in hell I'd willingly get in a helicopter
Im getting out
As a passenger im gonna keep asking “whats our altitude?”
@@revenger32 exactly
So unfortunate. I remember that day clearly. I was in school at the time in LA and when the news broke, my world kind of stopped. The whole day was drawn out and miserable. It was definitely cloudy that day. I didn't realize how much Kobe meant to me until he was gone. RIP for those on the flight.
If the LAPD didn't fly none of their helicopters or planes then, kobes pilot should have never flew either.
Exactly....IG daniellefiftyfifty
yeah but the controller gave clearance for the flight, it's any of them on board to make decision
Lol think about what the difference n LAPD helicopters and this helicopter and what there job is sometimes ya just got 2 think about shit it aint that hard 2 come up with a answer unless ur pretty dumb .
The pilot should have requested permission to land at Bob Hope/HBGP Airport in Burbank and waited until viability improved and then took to the air again.
@@christophercotton9048 shouldah coulda woulda
Can't believe we are already coming up on a year since this terrible tragedy. RIP Kobe Bryant and to all that lost their lives that awful day.
All comments is of Kobe...not the other lost lives??? Come on man. All souls belongs to God.
@@michaelclayton2323 because Kobe had a bigger impact on people than the average man. It’s that simple. Do you mourn a strangers death as much as you would mourn a family members? No and that’s ok. It doesn’t make the other deaths any less tragic it’s just people tend to mourn the loss of someone who had an impact on them more than they mourn the loss of those they didn’t know/weren’t familiar with
@@Cocogirl44 Kobe did not had an impact on my life at all. I never met the man. He was not even a family member of these people that had comments as well. When the Titanic went down, all lives matter. I am using humanoty compassion and not putting any man above God.
After reading the text at 14:18, I know for sure when death comes nothing comes correctly, it's just unavoidable and even the right thing goes wrong. R.I.P to all who died in that crash! Thank you for the video as well!
Absolutely. I was think the same thing. When IT IS TIME TO DIE- IT IS TIME and it is an appointment WE ALL WILL KEEP. Their TIME was UP!!!
@@JESUSISLORDFOREVERMORE888 you people are sick
I remember driving towards LA this day and the fog was all over the hills. Its crazy . Rest In Peace to everyone who passed away in this accident.
I lived in EL Segundo for several years, just south of LAX and fairly close to the Ocean. In the summertime, there would be a thick fog every morning that would only start to burn off at around 10am or so. I’m guessing it comes off of the Pacific.
I was driving through Calabasas later that day. The fog was still soup thick.
@@bclarg3248 wow
@@user-jn1xw6gf9c sorry you experienced that, I can only imagine how terrible it was
The fog must be really bad
I’m not a basketball fan. I never watch a game but somehow this tore me up. Kobe had a smile that was as bright as the sun. His daughter I can only hope didn’t know what was happening. The others I wish the same. RIP to all.
What a preventable tragedy
So wish they had all driven there.......😥💔RIP to all on board x🌈😭
In which first world problems will you engage?
A lot of them are
Helicopter crashes are literally all preventable but the companies don’t make efforts to have plans and mechanisms that are useful in case crashes happen.
@@ahmeddirie2138 that’s a stretch. Are some preventable sure. Are most preventable maybe. Are all preventable not unless we get rid of helicopters and never fly again.
All aircraft need to be treated as aircraft. This means recordings, black box, anything that can help, and a terrain alert system. Why in the world this wasn’t already required is beyond me.
I appreciate your comment, but a black box wouldn't have prevented this accident, if that's what you're suggesting. And if spatial disorientation is severe enough, a pilot may be unresponsive to external data, such as a terrain warning. This accident was caused by pilot error, and the core issue here is pilot competency.
@@cardinalRG Do you think Kobe Bryant and his daughter were both Buried in a grave ?
@@nealsmall9316 --I've no opinion about that, sorry. I've followed only the aeronautical details of this accident and will be happy to discuss any topic within that range.
More instruments is great, but apparently this pilot failed to use the most basic flight orientation instruments.... Anyone who's seriously played a flight simulator game would glue their eyes to those instruments in such conditions..
You're performing a completely blind assent and you didn't check your angle of attack/artificial horizon instrument... So criminally avoidable..
not until some high public figure like Kobe dies
I was living about 4 miles from JWA. That morning was foggy af. I can't believe any aircraft would be cleared to fly that day. This tragedy could have been absolutely avoided.
You’re right 💯
Not if all agreed to go
It was just their time no matter how anyone looks At it or thinks of the lord wanted it to happen a different way he would have tvis is how it was supposed to happen with all of them together unfortunately but that’s life for you
That’s Why none should take life or who they love for granted we just never know or how or when we will go but need to be prepared to meet God
After death Is the judgement
If One dies and is saved that means they go to heaven and live for eternity but if they are lost and choose with their free will to reject Christ they go to hell for eternity
Same thing I said along with the very best friend of Kobey's, they should not have flown that morning, to Foggy period.
Kobe death was planned. Did you not see the cartoon?
Pressures of being Kobe favorite pilot. Can't disappoint under any circumstances 😒
There's a lot of blaming back and forth on this one but no one ever would have thought... This made me reevaluate so many things in my life. R.I.P. *John Altobelli Keri Altobelli Alyssa Altobelli Payton Chester Sarah Chester Christina Mauser Ara Zobayan Gianna Bryant Kobe Bryant.* May your loved ones be watched over.
The existence of rampant homelessness in the face of extreme wealth and excess should be having you "reevaluate" your life, all life. Weird priorities.
take the pilot off the condolences , he is a murdererer
@@hughjanus8211 Sure buddy
@@hughjanus8211 don't be ridiculous, yes the pilot more than likely was at fault but it was just a horrible accident. Nothing more
Use commas
I still can't believe this happened. 2020 sure is a year to be remembered. Rip to all of them. 😢
Yep. A TERRIBLE year. I had a feeling when this happened so early in the year that it was an omen of things to come..
Helicopters metric systems. Are low powered and cant calculate or fly in level 5 autopilot
Don't said 2020 are bad all of this made by us
@@iman6988 i can't see anything "bad" in my comment. The only bad here is your grammar. Lmao
@@iman6988 nah 2020 sucks, 2014 and 2019 was better
Rest In Peace to every soul that was on that plane. Such a sad story. Everybody including Kobe will forever be a legend in the world. See you on the other side. 🌍
It always such a shame to find out many of these tragedies could have been avoided.
Yup. "Don't push your pilot to do the wrong thing, no matter how important you think you are!"
Could have just travelled by road due to poor air visibility. What was the hurry
It was boths fault Bryant and pilot,,Bryant blindly trusted on pilot and only wanted him to be his pilot and pilot made a silly mistake,,,this is so embarrassing
@@varunmanjunath6204 Se7en deadly sins...greed and pride.
@@varunmanjunath6204 Yeah right. OK, it's a two hour drive. Just leave two hours earlier.
Sounds to me like the pilot was worried that Kobe would be unsatisfied if the flight was grounded and that he would be fired.
While safety is the number one factor it can be overshadowed with the mentality of “pleasing the customer”. It’s a really common bad habit that pilots fall into.
@@janewoolf2038 I can see that happening
Shouldn't have been flying in the first place id rather get fired than forgetting about safety and having any ones blood on my hands while in fact putting myself in danger as well
@@akaliimaene2103 It’s really easy for anyone to say something like that in hindsight, when at the time you’d likely be thinking things such as “it’s really not that bad”.
@one nation exactly but kobe should of at least considered that its foggy lets travel by land this time could of took a limousine or drove his own. but R.I.P.
It’s so sad to see how close they were to the academy. And it seems like they didn’t know they were going to crash until it happened. God, my heart breaks for them all.
It’s better that they didn’t know they didn’t suffer hopefully
@Megan Ice wtf is wrong with you
@Megan Ice i dont see the biden problem
I've always wondered that, did they know that they were about to crash and panicking, or were they just riding along and all of a sudden... Boom. I also wonder if Vanessa got to see them and talk to them before they left that morning or was she still asleep?
@@MiamiBlossom I have the same thought with every plane crash that happens on the news, like if they panicked and what their last thoughts were and if they got to hold their loved ones hand (if they were together on the plane). I always, always hope that most don’t even realize, or they’re asleep, then it’s over and there’s nothing, no pain, no tears, no present thought.
And I’m sure the entire family were probably all up that morning, since it wasn’t super early in the morning (I hope they were at least).
Just seeing the helicopter lift off the ground gives off such a gut wrenching feeling because there was a moment where everything after that was unknown. RIP Everyone 💔
It was never unknown. These are sell outs to the devil. I don't know celebs kids are thrown into this but just to keep it lighter, Kobe most likely signed his kids death wish the moment the devil came to him for more skills & riches. This story has the classic of wanting to play god hence why all proof of predicting this crash...
Add into all the coincidental prior and post crash.. At this point it's Satan's tagging without using pain and side buildings.
So let me get this straight: he's operating in very low visibility conditions, and he's not continuously checking his instruments? The hell?
That's what I got out of it. Why didn't he keep an eye on his instruments? This would have been avoided. :(
Gotta wonder how much chatter was going on in the cockpit? Was this pilot Kobe's favorite because they got along well and the pilot was distracted by their conversation?
@@jeandunow7794 or flying in milk and disoriented?
He was flying in VFR conditions the majority of the flight
@@dianecelento4974 Yes. Sad. Helicopter pilots have a habit of using Visual FR. Some how, he was distracted and didn't focus on using Instrument FR.
I give 100% gratitude to @TheFlightChannel for going through all the research to make thes videos. Keep up the good work! Hope you get to 2M.
No offense to The Flight Channel, I love their videos but to be fair most sentences here are lifted off Wikipedia verbatim.
@@Trebiane They provide the visual aspect. And how do you know those wiki authors arent behind this page?
John Altobelli Keri Altobelli Alyssa Altobelli Payton Chester Sarah Chester Christina Mauser Ara Zobayan Gianna Bryant Kobe Bryant, all of these people passed. I have to finally give up on the grief and sadness, but i can't stop. Rip all of you beautiful and loved souls!
When you're listing people/things put commas so people know that you're listing something, it looks like you were saying a bunch a random shit.
Without the use of commas between names it appears to be one long name which hardly does the victims the respect of distinguishing them from one another.
Thank you for listing all the names, it's very important that they be remembered also.
Pay no attention to the Grammer squad, they're just having bad days and thought it'd make em feel better to go bully someone who is showing love to all who perished in this horrific tragedy.
Good job @No_Emotions and @inkyguy. Hope you feel better now.
@@MinisterJokes 😂 I'm actually having a great day, stop assuming things. Also, I really don't give a fuck about the people that died. He/she needs to put commas when they're listing something or someone. Just because we told them to put commas when listing things, doesn't mean were having a bad day and we aren't bullying him/her, dumbass.
This was terrist act so they allow them to fly private citizens but not commercial and think that's safe???
We went skydiving this same day in Lake Elsinore. The fog was so bad.. even hearing after the crash we went. Was a rollercoaster of emotions. RIP to kobe and Gianna , and all those on the helicopter. This loss was definitely felt around the world
I was in a U.S.Army Chinook helicopter , my platoon( 45 men, combat loaded ) was being airlifted. We ran Into heavy fog. The Chief Warrant officer put that chopper down and said" we wait for it to clear, or you can start walking "! We waited
Thank you for your service, and all 45 on board with you that day - Your Chief Warrant Officer was smart.....
It sounded like pilots in that company would get fired for saying no to clients, but I agree with you and thank you for making this point. That weather is sketchy to me too.
He's smart. There is also a way higher rate of heli crashes in the military than in the civilian world.
@@ez8308 That's because civilian helicopters don't see combat.
@@avikfett1551 there was a few years where it seemed like military helicopters were crashing almost every month, while just transporting and not in combat
I used to own a car service in Napa Valley. Can confirm that most celebrities are a nightmare. (Never being told no has a corrosive effect on the human spirit.) Can't imagine the pressure faced by pilots in private aviation.
@B T don't bring your political views to this channel. 🤬
Which celebrities did you meet?
so you're saying Kobe forced this guy to fly?
What does the election have anything to do with the crash?
@B T 9 people were killed in the crash and again that has what to do with elections?
I remember this day in SoCal. I'm about 1.5 hours east in the desert. That morning was the thickest, most bizzare fog I've *ever* seen in SoCal. It was weird... it must be noted that the pilot had to deal with some extremely oddball weather that morning... this was literally 1 in a billion weather/fog for the region that day...
I find it comforting that the pilot was not in distress and hopefully the passengers were unaware of the danger/fate until it happened. It's heart breaking to think they were terrified leading up to it.. but maybe that wasn't the case
Saddest thing is how close they were to academy
Then why the hell did he keep on climbing🤬
@@chadgalavan to avoid crashing into the academy
They weren’t flying to the academy. They were flying to Camarillo airport and driving from there. It were still 20 miles away.
By the time all this happened they could have almost been there by Car in early Am. No traffics! Better safe then sorry...Rip!...for family so sorry for your loss🙏
@@siry5164 Fame has brought him arrogance to travel by car where he can fly in style..
It is the others who died on his heli who are the real unfortunate ones.
I was there in Calabasas the previous night, dropping off a passenger for Uber, and there was some pretty bad fog then, especially in the hills. It’s crazy to think that Kobe and the others, crashed in a helicopter there the next morning. They almost crashed into Hidden Hills, which is even more crazier, considering a lot of celebs, that I’m sure Kobe knows lives there.I believe the helicopter crashed just past it, by maybe a mile or two. I’m not sure if it was the same side as Hidden Hills, which is the north side of the 101 freeway. I heard it crashed near Las Virgenes Rd.
I want to make a kardashian joke but it’s uncalled for .........
It was a Sunday morning. Sundays usually have the least amount of traffic in all cities. It's ashame they didnt drive that day.
Hindsight is 2020 but he has traveled this way for years as a way to make it easier on him and allowed more time with his family. It’s a 2 hour drive by car if there isn’t any issues but there is always issues. He just as easily have died because of the fog while driving in some awful wreck with a tanker truck. Then everyone would be bitching “oh why didn’t they just take the copter that day”.,
Kobe flew in a helicopter his whole career.. man wasn’t gonna drive period.
This is irrelevant people who have money use helicopters! Helicopters are safer then cars when it’s your time! It’s your time
@@wholovesu2 but the thing is helicopter crashes are always nasty, doesn't matter who's flying it or what ur flying in. like all the crashes of helicopters i've heard basically for all my life that i know of, max like 1 people survive. Sometimes like 3 or 2 people survive but its still really hard to survive that.(per crash), but most times all the people are dead. if i had to choose whether id want to be in a helicopter crash or a car crash i would pick a car crash. higher chance of surviving then in a helicopter crash.
Sunday morning they should have been taking the kids to church and worshiping God instead of worshiping the basket ball.
Classic disorientation case. I was never certified IFR, but my instructor trained me to make scanning my instruments a normal part of my area scans. He once put an IFR training hood on me to simulate an accidental entrance into IFR conditions. I was taught how to rely on my instruments to make a 180 turn to leave the way I came to return to VFR.
like driving watch the road
watch your instruments
watch you mirror.
Are You former military aviation?
@@culbyj3665 no,civilian in the 80's
@@carolynmiles9281 You had some good training.. Be safe
I was 100 feet away from EX that morning. I was prepping to depart in a citation. Saw Kobe family and friends get in. Mentioned to my co pilot that the weather was crappy for VFR flight. Kobe was always at SNA and a regular at Atlantic Aviation. We departed and landed in salt lake. The TVs were on talking about a crash in calabasas. I knew it was Kobe’s helicopter. Such a horrible feeling
I worked for Atlantic Aviation at north Philly airport for several years as an aircraft Mechanic and later as an Avionics technician .I got to test fly aircraft after we completed maintenance on the airframe or the avionics. It was an all night schedule that I did not like, but working on the airplanes and test flying was fun. I got to see Grace Kelly and help board her on the bosses private jet. It was a fun job and loved having free flights on cooperating airlines!
So sad
@@Johnwilldo I work for British airways in London Heathrow.I fly the a350 my fav plane to fly
I work for British airways in London Heathrow and I fly the a350
@@sahulsathik5857 That is a busy airport! I worked for a commuter airline as an aircraft mechanic and as an avionics tech. We worked night shift from 10 pm until 7;00AM.I got to test fly several General aviation aircraft but nothing very fancy...no jets.I enjoyed metal fabrication the best. We had several Nord's that had a nasty habit of dropping their landing gear Pods!.
I drove through those mountains that morning 20 minutes before the crash. I was shocked as to how foggy it was, and this was on the ground. It was so thick I could barely see the road ahead of me.
This is why you live each day to its fullest you never know when it's going to get taken away from you
Agree, gawd and the devil are always scanning.
And also don't fly in helicopters, then you won't die from that since you are not in control
@@jaybee5478 helicopters are the most safest way to travel
@@kevinbob4344 Wrong
kobe psyop
matt mauser laughing 3 days later
"God knew they couldn't be on earth without each other" - Vanessa Bryant
Not how god works
@@jimgreco6279 So, tell us how God works then. Does he text you? Hm?
@@jimgreco6279 you should atleast capitalize GOD like bruh have respect that stuff makes me mad
I loved him rip
@@haley5118 it's a word like any other
Lesson to be learnt: Don't simply fire an employee just for your satisfaction. Sometimes they care you more than you care yourself.
Nah the lesson learned is don't fly in bad weather conditions if you don't have the experience
learnt huh
Dangmei, you are absolutely right!
The other pilots that Kobe was not happy with because of refueling and personality issues would have safely gotten to the destination. Would I want a asshole elite surgeon operating on me, or a incompetent nice guy?
@@richcollins513 yeah, learnt is actually proper, a lot of the world says it, much to my dismay
you're all talking like you're experts now... all of the sudden...
The pilot was a experience pilot he actually did his training hours at Van Nuts airport he should have known that Calabasas is a heavily foggy area....he should have landed at Van Nuys airport and let Kobe and the rest of the passengers travel buy Hired driver's and the pilot could have processed to Camarillo airport a few hours later. This is Not Monday morning quarter backing , may they all rest in peace.
I completely agree with you. He lost his common sense judgement because he was dazzled at having such a major celebrity on board, and it cost 9 people their lives. So unnecessary.
@@annbolyn4910 Tho I'm NOT a pilot I would refuel the Helicopters for the Fire Department and I know that area well.... They our pilots would NOT fly to Malibu from Pacoima under those conditions.
Kobe would of fired his ass if he did that.
You know he falsified his hours logged right?
People always want to try and push the limits ..Sometimes they push back.
What amazes me is that animation, it looks so friggin realistic...
Ya it is a very good animation
@@NeverBrokeAgain27 no it isn't, it's X-Plane. GTA V is ancient
@@NeverBrokeAgain27 But it is an animation...
F
@@hamnchee that’s what I said
"Weather conditions today in the area of Los Angeles are very poor with limited visibility and thick fog"..a reason they shouldnt have flown in the first place
Yes but that’s neither here or near now
@@natalee217 Says someone who has never flown in a helicopter. Safety in aviation is written in blood.
@@natalee217 What the hell is "here or near"? Are you just making up phrases? 😉
If the Sheriff's and police air patrol are grounded, so should private flights.
The entire fly looks scary to me. Fog, mountains.
I THOUGHT THAT LOOKS BAD AS HE TAKES OF WAVING TO HIS SUPPORTERS
Once your in the fog what is one to do?
OB Luv go up but he didn’t do that
@@Repoocn Bummer. I had a dream about Kobe around 2008/2009ish and then the next day I met a dog named Kobe. I read about a person that stated in a tweet in 07 they had a vision of his crash. Crazy. The world really loves this man.
Yes a very big fly .lol
R.I.P to everyone in the flight. I'm especially sorry for the children who never got to grow up completely. Wishing the best for everyones family members who lost
Can’t believe this was more than a year ago already. So many bad choices were made that day . Rest In Peace to all of them . I hope their families find peace
What a terrible year, I don’t expect anything to get better with 20 forced vaccines and humans becoming so fucking distant from each other, fat, weak immune systems, and antisocial.
almost 2 years by now.....
This whole situation is so sad..but as soon as I learned there were also children on board, one being Kobe's daughter, my heart sank even lower 😔🙏🙏
I think the whole world is now in more trouble than kobe
I think the World we are living between thick fog vs 2020 visible safety hi-tech. And skilled pilot are we there yet ? Hmmmmmm
@@jimmyrodasmolestina979 I know what you mean, this Kobe crash is way down the list on what matters most today,...lets think about the regular people not over paid basketball players.
Im here for you Shaneca..
@@JohnnyBGood11 @JohnnyBGood11 my heart goes out to anyone who may have lost their life so tragically..it doesn't matter if you're a celebrity or not..I'm not going to negate the fact that this is a sad situation especially for those babies because of covid 19 🙄🤦
Seems to me like External Pressures played a large role in the incident. Upon his disability to maintain VFR aborting the flight would have been a great option. Considering his experience with IFR/IMC (CFII), he probably felt confident he could manage the conditions, but it wasn't even legal to begin with :/ Zobayan's employer doesn't permit IFR so it's possible he wasn't as proficient in operating under actual IMC as he assumed he was. Seems as though Ara was more concerned with how Kobe would have reacted if he had to ground the flight, rather than flying safely.
Still dumb. Pilot is always in command regardless. Fuck them I'm not gonna fly into fog and risk dying
@@mental720s Absolutely, as PIC it was his job to fly safe/legal but his ego may have been the issue. Not an excuse for him, just throwing my 2 cents to see what anyone else thinks. Shouldn’t jump to any conclusions though until NTSB is done with their job.
@@Hester23BearsCHx Is spatial disorientation related crashes less prone to happen if there are two pilots instead of one.
@@philnightjar1971 I don’t know the actual stats on that, but two heads is typically better than one. Another comment from a former military member on this section said that more often than not helicopters are equipped with more than a single pilot because of this reason.
In corporate aviation, pressures are put on the pilots to fly by clients independent of safety considerations. Those who turn down the assignments for safety eventually will find themselves on the unemployment line. Those that don’t keep their jobs, but this is the cost.
I can only imagine how hard this video must be for his wife/children /parents/siblings/family members of all those traveling alongside Kobe to watch. I know this because of how tremendously difficult it was for me to watch and I never spent one day with him, except by way of television. RIJ beautiful souls.
Rest In Jeeps?
I think we all know this. It's pretty common for a family to greive a loss... Not sure why you thought you had to explain. Also what is RIJ?
I’ve been caught in fog in my car and became somewhat disoriented. I cannot imagine adding a third axis. The words “No one survived.” are some of the saddest on RUclips.
Your car doesn't have the kind of instruments a helicopter has. The instruments keep you safe, if you use them correctly.
It was a very very sad day.😢
@@landen99 I have sufficient GPS / sonar electronics on my boat to navigate in my home lake in any visibility ...but can't because I can't see the "other fool" who thinks the same thing and he can't see me. It's not just having and using the instruments in a vehicle. Only in an approved, controlled IFR air flight. Without terrain avoidance capability this helicopter most certainly lacked necessary instruments.
More like a sixth axis. Cars can't translate, roll, or pitch.
@@ericwicker7514 i was setting up a party when someone yelled kobes dead i didnt realy care that day but now i do
And this is why I rather drive two hours instead of take a bird in the fog.
@@mrgold3845 but have a higher chance of survival
@@GamerGee think about it, when plane crash, they always get up on the news. But when car crash, they don’t.
Lol
.-.
@@GamerGee Traffic makes 2 hours 2.5/etc.
I was driving through the mountains in Calabasas that morning about 1 hour before and in patches, could only see the brake lights of the car 100 feet in front of me. It was very foggy.
A bad day to be on the road or in the sky it seems. I wish they hadn't flown that day.
This video is fantastic, thank you. I take comfort in the fact that all on board likely never knew they were heading towards the side of a mountain. The pilot didn't even seem concerned or frightened. None of them knew what was going to hit them until it did, and it was quick. Rest in peace.
That 11 minute hold was sign telling them to go back.
True advantage of helicopter is they can land anywhere even without airport just find a damm fine land
Agree agree 😭
sure it is 😔
Right
The day had already reached no way,,wishing strength to their families🙏.
Man I wish Kobe would’ve just gotten up early & took that 2 hour drive :(
They did get up early...they attended Church first...that day
@@davidarmendariz2462 dam fr I didn’t know that
@Zsuzsanna Varga your point?
@Zsuzsanna Varga it most likely did help they are in a better place now, god pulled them out of this world so they didn't have to experience the horrible year of 2020
@@MainStreetElectricalParade uh oh we have a edgelord man this guy is so cool and edgy
Coming up on a year already. This dreadful year of 2020 can't end soon enough. May all those who experienced loss and grief find comfort and peace in 2021 and beyond.
2020 had nothing to do with this tragedy. Arrogance and celebrity contributed to nine deaths, not the numbers on the calendar.
i had a great year despite all that's happening.
@@katemaloney4296 no
I’ve watched a million of these types of recreations and none of them made me feel anxious about what was happening. I don’t know why, but as the flight got closer to crashing my heart started beating faster and the more anxious I got almost like I was on the flight knowing what was coming… RIP to all on board!
My heart sank when I read the first report of this most grievous accident, and my deepest sympathies go out to everyone affected.
A great simulation of this sad tragedy. I wouldn’t have clicked on this unless it was produced but TheFlightChannel.
Hope they were resting their eyes / in an excited chat before the crash, at least it didnt frighten them before the tragic... at least it happened real quick without them realising it... RIP Kobe & those onboard. 😔
I wish it never happened … still hurts . Praying for all the families
I'll never forget thinking to myself as I drove to work in Los Angeles that the fog was the worst I have ever seen. When I got to work I heard the bad news and I knew what that pilot was up against. RIP to all onboard.
It happened on a Sunday you dork
@@jasonbourne5142 My days off are tuesdays and wednesdays sht head
@@alschannel9395 what a sht schedule SMH
@@jasonbourne5142 I prolly make more money than you and you most likely still live at home.
@@alschannel9395 yeah prolly so but atleast I'm not unoriginal.
Man this sucks. May god be with everyone who lost a loved one in this tragedy
I bet you would only say that for a celebrity, and not someone who deserves it.
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Wait wrong one
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Yeah where was God when they fell through the sky in the first place lol . *dies in helicopter crash* God is good . What a joke
I thank the people on here who's comment recognize all the passengers instead of saying RIP Kobe, Giana and everyone else like they were nobody. I imagine with Kobe's celebrity status the pilot felt he had to make the flight no matter what the weather was considering all most everything else was shut down due to the weather. Another fine job tfc, take care and stay safe.
You know what weren't shut down, though? The roads. He could have just made the sacrifice and taken a 2 hour drive. Unfortunately, that's not how insanely rich people operate... they get what they want, when they want it, with no questions asked... and this time, sadly, that wealthy impatience resulted in tragedy.
Absolutely senseless! The pilot knew the weather was bad, yet , he decided to keep flying. No money 💰 is worth sacrificing nine lives. This is shameful and pathetic. Rest In Peace and condolences to these folks relatives and friends!
@Herbert Ashley did you talk to him to know this?
I remember the day i realised Kobe was dead. That was my first trip to the USA, and I was in Orlando. I had just came back from a shopping day and then, when I get in the hotel I see the guards all crying, so I go to the Lounge and look at the tv, I just couldn't believe what I was watching... That was one of the saddest days of my life. May Kobe rest in piece, and all the other victims
Those children🙁it hurts me everytime i am reminded of this tragedy
You shall never be forgotten.
R.I.P everyone, and bless your families.
How quickly life can pass by, even for those who seem healthiest and greatest. What a stunning tragedy.
John Altobelli was the childhood baseball coach to my dad's friend. I never met him, but I'm sure he was a nice guy.
I live in the area where he was told to hold before going Northwest on the 5, and the fog was THICK that morning, thick enough to discourage people from driving on the freeway, let alone fly a helicopter. You couldn't see fifty feet ahead. He was basically flying blind, he had to have been.
What part of “there was no fog until after they took off” do you not understand?!
@@samreilly1484 tf you getting mad for?
@@43110clyde I’m not I’m just telling it like it is
Trust me! If Kobe was gonna fly in “thick enough fog to discourage other people from driving on the freeway, let alone flying in a helicopter” with several other people including his own preteen daughter and another preteen girl who was with both her parents, he might as well have also locked his two younger daughters in a room with a convicted child molester! I’m sorry to sound like such a broken record, but you could see 5 miles ahead when the helicopter took off! But you couldn’t even see an inch ahead when it crashed!
@@samreilly1484 facts
This is one of those times you wish you could go back in time and say don't go. All I can think watching this is turn around, don't go that way. 😔
Seems like girl's basketball is a stupid thing to die for..
@@dianah.9718 Yes but I think it's a lot more complex than just basketball. They were building a future for a child.
I started making a story based off that thought, if we could go back and prevent celebrities from passing away, too bad I didn’t get far with it.
If I had to list 100 air crashes I could stop this one would not be in it, I'd much rather save 300 lives than 8.
Perhaps allowing a client to pick and choose pilots based on who he likes rather than their level of experience, gets you this.
Exactly
It's the opposite I think, he picked very experience pilot and a twin engine helicopter.
Possible, but I don't think Kobe had any doubts about everyone's safety when he made his choice.
@@RationalMinded he was not a pilot. Tragedy though.
I highly doubt he just chose anybody.
Well done, very logically unpacked! I have flown 20k+ hours in fixed wing aircraft, mainly under VFR but a considerable amount of IFR as well. On first hearing of this I presumed the heli was operating under instrument flight rules but on further watching this it becomes very clear what took place. Generally speaking, heli's tend to be safer under marginal wx than fixed wing as the pilot can slow to a crawl and set down if he really needs to. Given the amount of built up area he was flying over, setting down to wait for better wx or wait for ground transport was not looking like a great option. The question remains; why did this pilot continue a flight in such atrocious wx and put himself between layers where disorientation becomes a certainty? Apparently the pilot felt (or put himself under) extreme pressure to complete a flight that was completely unsafe from the get-go. He painted himself into a corner and apparently had no plan "b". Collision with power lines and other obstructions would have been a huge hazard which may explain why he chose to climb. Either way, entry into IMC wx in a helo without supplemental stabilization and adequate training and equipment ends in disaster every time. I find it odd that it seems the ntsb went to great lengths looking for equipment failure or some other explanation than human error. I don't believe that they want the public to know that a multi million dollar aircraft with mega rich pax's on board can crash the same as a Cessna 150 when pushed past the pilot and machines limit.
Very well said.
Shoulda been way better prepped and equipped for kobe mann🤦🏿♂️
I would love to hear a response from a helo pilot who has flown in conditions like these and lived to talk about it. Like just how deep is spatial disorientation? Not a pilot myself although I have flown on and worked on helos myself in the navy. I have an understanding about how they are supposed to work. I know the instruments are there to help you, but I have no clue just how disoriented this guy had to have been in this situation, and just how much of a potential killer vertigo can be up there.
@@Smacckz it’s not just about celebrity or whoever’s flying. The pilots want to live too. Everyone’s important when your in the sky man.
Can i ask your opinion. Do u think in any way with what happened, that someone influenced the pilot to just pursue the unthinkable and dangerous? Like perhaps a mentality of never say no, "just proceed " attitude. ? No names mentioned here.
From an experienced rotary wing maintainer, simply stated, he flew it into the dirt. It isn't unusual for a pilot to lose orientation in poor visibility situations and sometimes they just ignore instruments and fly the aircraft into the earth.
Well said.
So were the passengers on board terrified knowing they were going to crash during this descending?
Or were they all just sitting there and boom, it happened so fast they had no time to be frantic and didn’t know what was about to happen?
@@danieller3450 Because of the G-forces of the turn it probably felt like they were climbing, considering how thick the fog was if anyone saw it coming they wouldn't have had time to scream.. But the fact that the Pilot ignored his most basic flight instruments is INSANE to me - Someone who flew Flight Sim 10 as a kid.....
His Artificial horizon instrument could've saved all of their lives if the Pilot just paid attention to it...
@@OGPatriot03 his brain must've had a really bad day
Years ago I had the guy teaching me to fly. At one point the guy started laughing. I thought I was flying level and the guy said, look your almost on your side. Spacial disorientation is a weird experience. He taught me to watch the instruments because with the plane at its proper attitude, your Looking Over the Horizon and can't see the ground as a reference. I can't believe that a lot of Pilots don't train with instrumentation. Even if you're not certified, at least learn something about it because it's very important as we have seen.
He was IFR rated, so it is not that he wasn't familiar with flying IFR. He may however have been rusty as his company only allowed VFR flights. With spacial disorientation and no TAWS on board, he only had seconds to figure out what was going on before flying into terrain. No one knows what he was doing the seconds before. He could have been looking at a map, finding a frequency or been distracted with something, phone call from the back compartment or 1000 other things.
People die every year glancing at their phone for a second, now imagine flying an airplane while being distracted...
reading your comment, I am kind of shocked to hear, that there are pilots who dont know how to use their intruments properly...
but hey, I only ride a bicycle :)
@@las10plagas It is not necessarily that the pilot didn't know how to use his instruments. He was instrument rated, so he had passed the certification for IFR flights. But, when he became disoriented, and probably under a lot of pressure to deal with a weather situation that was quickly escalating, with a demanding passenger in the back, he probably just was distracted or zoned out for a few seconds.
The problem with spacial disorientation is that if you are not looking at the instruments, and no one does that the entire time in a VFR flight, your body doesn't really tell you when you are getting into trouble. It is like flying into a mountain in a fog. There is no indication there is anything wrong until you literally hit something.
@@redbaron6805 your'e right. but my comment was not related to the accident. I was just surprised :-P
Pilots not looking at instruments is bizarre af to me. I'm no pilot but I'm looking at my instruments even when I'm flying in gta. You're flying in a huge fucking metal box which is not supposed to fly. Why is looking at instruments not the most important thing??
RUclips really recommended this to me a day before their one year anniversary. Wow.