Do not twist his words. He was talking in the context of violence against black people in the civil rights era and would have condemned the despicable racism of the extreme right.
Madame. If the powers take away your voice and refuse to listen to your concerns.. how is a civilized community to react…? They promised a border security group… we’re still waiting… 2 days after Southport he had already organisés a security group to handle the British rioters..! What about the Islam rioters.. why is he promising to make safety for Islamists a priority over native concern….
"We're still waiting". They've only been in power a month dude. Do you want something that works, or something that's done extremely quickly? You can't have both. Proper solutions take time.
The family of those fylth even raised a formal complaint on the grounds that they showed the part of the video where their little darlings violently assaulted a woman. It's not two tier policing, it's policing (for us) and complete freedom (for the savvvages).
You start by listening to them, and learning what they really believe, so you can model the way they think. Then you learn which parts of their belief system are truly insane. And which parts have some merit. You use your newfound understanding to make better versions of their good arguments, and more effectively pick apart their bad arguments. Over time, most people will move towards this more reasonable position. One you can compromise and coexist with. (Though there will always be some who are fundamentally unreasonable.)
Well isn't that the problem? The Labour party in particular decided in the 80s that they weren't going to be discussing working class issues with working-class people. They stopped listening and talking. Now they've lost the art of discussing things properly because they can't talk to all voters as equals. It doesn't matter if you want to be a bit sniffy about who you talk to. Those people are in the streets because this is their country, just as much as it's yours.
According to the Centre for Cities Sunderland has received the smallest increase in migrants of English cities. Since 2011 the percentage of Sunderland residents who were not born in the UK has risen from 4% of the population to 5%. As of the 2021 census there were 275,000 people living in Sunderland. 5% of that is 13,750, the 1% increase since 2011 being 2,750. That's along way short of 70k. So tell me, where did you get such a spurious figure from, and what did you do to verify it??
@@mayamelagia- TR’s figures on Luton are pretty frightening. Luton has always been the centre of his concerns and having grown up there and seen the almost complete replacement of the local community, that’s what he talks about most of the time.
The problem is if anybody says that they are against immigration they are labelled as racist and far right. In this piece the presenter has labelled Farage as far right but she cannot articulate why he is far right other than saying he is anti immigration. The other problem is all governments have been dishonest about the levels of immigration. During the Brexit debates the government stated that there were 1 million EU people living in the UK. When they had to register to remain in the UK it turned out there were many times that number. The conservatives were prevented from pursuing their policies and allowed 750,000 immigrants to enter the UK in a single year. Labour have only been in power for a matter of weeks and they have scrapped the Rwanda scheme, closed the immigration detention centres and announced an effective amnesty for asylum seekers. These actions have been a catalyst for these riots as much as the tragic murders in Southport. Burning and looting shops, throwing stones at the police and mosques does not help stop the immigration we are currently seeing. The Labour Party needs to address this issue with some credible policies to completely stop ALL immigration. If not I fear that people will be pushed to the extremes. We need to make it clear to immigrants that they not only need to integrate into our society, they need to assimilate. The Muslims have voted in several MP’s who support terrorists who promote genocide in the form of HAMAS. This was not a good sign of things to come.
the Rwanda scheme. yes it has been aborted. Are you aware that part of the scheme required that we took Rwandan political prisoners in return? So a one-in-out making no difference to the numbers. Secondly, the asylum seekers would be processed in Rwanda, those who were granted asylum would remain in Rwanda. Those deemed not needing asylum would be returned to the country they arrived from ie THEY WOULD BE RETURNED TO THE UK. and I'm not going to mention the cost. How was this ever going to resolve the problem?
I'm from foreign & Muslim orgin myself however i understand the anger. Asylum seekers & migrants take low skilled jobs from low skilled English citizens, and they contribute to lowering woking conditions, including wages, by accepting any working conditions.That is the real problem, or that is what they think is the real problem, and the crime rate may be higher among people from foreign origins as well. So until the government does something to solve these issues, part of the population would continue to feel upset about it. I don’t like far-right, I don’t like their hatred but stereotyping all the upset people that they are only far-right will not help.
OK, 750,000 work visas issued last year. 38,000 asylum seekers last year. So the asylum numbers are less than 5% of the migration figures for last year. I would suggest that the evidence shows its not asylum seekers taking jobs, but work visas being issued for sectors which need workers. To the OP, while it's indeed wise to tackle legitimate underlying economic concerns, thats not the reason people are attacking mosques. Those attacking mosques are white supremacists who hate Islam and would round you up and deport you in a heartbeat.
everything the immigrants are given has been taken from poor indigenous people who have already had so much removed from their lives by sucessive governments and now their dignity making them second class citizens in the own land ... what are they meant to do wait another four years just to put a cross in a box ...
Two tier policing …… have the Manchester Airport 4 been charged yet? It’s two weeks ago now but anyone defending their own country arrested yesterday will be in court tomorrow!
They are on police bail while investigations continue, pretty much the same as has happened to the cop who kicked the guy in the head. There is no two-tier policing.
BS. Immigration has been on the political agenda for ages. Brexit was all about getting labour migrants out. Tories enacted a plan to export asylum seekers to Ruanda, FFS ! They were willing to change laws and treaties and ignore human rights for it. So please don't play the "we're being ignored" card, it's so fake.
This has nothing to do with the tragic murders. It has everything to do with racism and fascism. Ask yourself, why did the rioters in Southport attack a mosque???
"Tories would limit immigration to 'tens of thousands' a year, says Cameron" This article is more than 14 years old Conservative leader says net immigration of 200,000 people a year is 'too much' Today’s provisional estimates put immigration in 2023 at 1,218,000
@@Skygrey2943 David Cameron also cancelled the EUID card, and sacked the long standing Head of the Border's Agency - Brodie Clarke, and kept Theresa May in the Home Office for six years - longest serving Home Sec ever, while she failed to deliver on his core pledge, to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands. By the time of the 2016 EU referendum, in which Cameron claimed to be a Remainer, immigration was 633,000. It has since doubled. They lied, and frankly I'd like them held accountable for their lies in some more tangible way than voting them out of office.
@@michaelbrian219 That's a clever joke, but I'm not laughing! Cameron needs to be criminally prosecuted for misconduct in public office, lose his Knighthood, and the index linked final salary pension, taxpayers would otherwise have to pay for the rest of his life.
An armed encrouchment by people intent on killing a specific group? Yes, that's what the nurse told me she was planning after caring for elderly people this morning.
Peter Caldwell is wrong. We do have a point. We voted Brexit 10 years ago but there is no reduction. I am not far right. I am 63 yrs old ,white and female and I am scared to walk my dog at night in my city. It is disgusting to be going past a local shop and to be sneered at by people that are not of my race, nor do they speak my language - also they are all male and intimidating
Perhaps you could try saying hello? When I do that with the Muslims near where I live they are friendly back to me. As do my Chinese, African, Jamaican, Sikh and many white neighbours.
Thank god that at night Brit born teenagers are so kind and charitable! Never causing trouble, and certainly not sneering! If you think that Brexit was a vote to cut migration, you got lied to.
As are the actions of the two brothers breaking the nose of the police woman at Manchester Airport, yet they weren't even held overnight, and then they rioted in Rochdale. Did the police kettle those rioters.
@@user-bu9nb8wr6eThose involved in the MCR airport event we're given police bail whilst investigations continue, pretty much the same as the cop that kicked the guy in the head. Kettling is only used with large crowds, not the case in Leeds. The police contained the riot, just like they did in Southport. As of a week ago there had been four arrests I. Leeds, with a further 49 suspects to be investigated. There is no double standard.
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar I think you need to watch the London livestream. Livestreamed from beginning to end with no editing. A crowd of 80, no violence, no bad language, not even any placards. Kettled for two hours before the police said to each other (and this is recorded on audio) "Just pick out anyone," after which the cops went in dozens of times and arrested people for no reason, using considerable force. In the end the journalist filming was arrested, and he videoed the whole thing. The motto is, get a clue before you comment.
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar Well said - thanks for being the voice of reason here. There's a lot of childish whataboutism being employed to excuse these rioters.
No its not only that its Blair opens the border > People vote in tories on promise to lower migration > Migration gets worse > Brexit vote to control the borders and for us to be in control > Border still goes on when promise of border controls All the while people fearing about the population decline and fear of people who hate them becoming majority (they feel uk will become lebanon) and nobody will listen to them.
Plus where were all these concerned citizens during the 14 years of austerity? Oh let's wait until there's a new Government in town to show our displeasure...my eyes aren't just rolling, they're swivelling right now!
They've sorted it out, you'll be pleased to hear. Thugs getting imprisoned, propagandists lying on the web being tracked with a view to extradite foreign extremists, decent people reclaiming their streets, Far-Right agitators telling thugs not to attend brick-throwing sessions, police numbers sufficient to deal with these bright boys. They did well, didn't they? So a vote of congratulations to the police and the government is in order, perhaps?
Why is Nigel Farage wrong to say Sunderland has been “ invaded” when it clearly has? The United Kingdom has, and is being invaded by people from different continents and cultures, at odds with our culture of Western civilisation. Just as the islands of Britain were invaded by the Romans, the Anglo-Saxons, the Vikings and the Normans. Luckily, probably after years or decades, the newcomers and those already living in the lands assimilated, to varying degrees. But what is happening now is happening too quickly and the newcomers have no desire or plan to assimilate. To my mind they wish to retain their own culture and practices 100%, to dominate and replace us and to take over!😬🇬🇧❤️❤️
Invasion is by a group of people intent on mass slaughter. Do learn the meanings of words before you claim to know what they mean. But then again, I do remember the lovely taxi driver who brought my very old relative to the door, carrying his bag, having done everything possible for him, saying he was intent on genocide. Or was it to take him back safely when he returned? Oh, yes, it was to help him on his return journey. So confusing to bigots, isn't it? Our culture will absorb that of migrants, just as all other countries do the same. Just as we have always done. Like fish and chips? Jewish meal. Still driving your German car, watching your Japanese TV, observing your Middle Eastern religion, watching American films, wearing your Italian clothes, eating your French cheese?
No way do I condone the violence, but if you don't have a clue how all this kicked off, then you haven't got a clue about the country you claim to report on, I'm afraid that's why people are turning away from the mainstream media.
Right out of the gate Labour had talks with rioting Muslims, apologised to violent Muslim & condemned the police. A peaceful March was named right wing, in which a Hamas supporter was walked right through them. The organiser was then held for hours on counter terrorism powers. Children were murdered & brutally injured … all that happened was 2 photo ops. Then spitting with anger statements at people filling the vacuum with riots.
The riots in Southport are disgusting, and should have absolutely nothing to do with the memory of those kids. Not in their names. Clearly the lad that did that was deranged, regardless of what he thought he was doing. You could understand people venting at Keir Starmer when he turned up there, being as failures to improve the standard of public services like the police presence in local communities, have an impact on these sorts of situation and he is the PM. Going out and rioting in that community does nothing positive to address any of this.
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar Maybe so, but Starmer is now the face of politics UK and people will vent at him because of that. I'm sure he expects to deal with this sort of thing. And its not about only the Tory party, Labour are as culpable for the current state of the UK as the Torys are, they made a total mess during the Blair Brown years and handed over a shambles as well, and started the uncontrolled immigration issue back in their day. Sadly Starmer doesn't look like he is going to actually do anything about it, which will just make it worse, the result being this sort of trouble is going be more likely to happen.
@@theoutsider6191 So you don't think setting up a Command to deal with small boats, starting to clear the backlog of asylum claims and starting negotiations over asylum seekers with other European nations is anything? I'd say that wasn't bad for four weeks in office. Is more than the Tories did in 14 years!!!
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar No, what Starmer is doing is going to encourage more of the small boats, not solve the problem. He has stated he will not leave the ECHR constraints or reform the Refugee Charters we are signed up to, meaning the problem will get worse, not better. He also is saying that they will process claims faster and basically this means they are going to let many stay legally after having arrived illegally, which again will do nothing to deter anyone from making the journey illegally. Now, i don't really care about the long term impact of much of this, but many people will make lots of mileage out of this.... as they are currently.
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar No, what Starmer is going to do is going to make the situation worse not better. Openly stating the ECHR will be staying, and no intent to review the international convention/treaties on Refugees means this will be the case. Add to that their intent to rapidly process illegal migrants to gain official status of being allowed to stay, and that will compound the problem. Neither of these things are going to deter people from trying to arrive illegally, quite the opposite.
They are wrong, as you say, but being part of the national leadership is a responsibility to manage it in such a way these things don't erupt. Labour is putting fuel on the fire and they will make the country much worse. I don't believe this would have happened under Tories and believe Tommy Robinson is more to blame than that boy who stabbed those girls.
All these people condemning a working class movement when people have been denied any voice for so long. 'Remember your place' , 'do your jobs and obey your masters, do not take the law into your hands'. You may vote for a party but don't expect it to represent you.
Starmer is between a rock and a hard place as there is no magic bullet to fix the migration crisis. Even if the boats were stopped today and there was a total freeze on legal migration, the demographic change that has taken place already in the UK cannot be reversed but only slowed. The figure of 685,000 which is often quoted for last year's net migration also needs some clarification. Net migration is the difference between immigration and emigration. Immigration into the UK over the recent years was driven by an increase in mostly non-EU citizens. The majority of the increase in non-EU arrivals from 2019 to 2023 occurred through the work and study routes, with health and care as the main industry driving the growth in work migration. In 2023 approximately 1.2 million people entered the country whereas around 532,000 left, 98,000 of whom were British citizens, 202,000 were EU citizens, and a further 233,000 were non-EU citizens. Of the 1.2 million entering a vast majority were from third world countries. So the actual number of non-European immigration which seems to cause the most reseentment is a lot higher than the net figure of 685,000. This has been going on for years.
It's been less than a month. The disattisfaction is with the Tory government and their 14 years of misrule and corruption, and gimmicky politics like the Rwanda flights.
Rein in the language? If politicians rein in their language, activists and demagogues will emerge who do use that language. This is not an issue that can be manipulated with the right words, it is an existential problem. Latika talking about "pace of change" still comes off as patronising. Why must there be change at all? What change? Demographic replacement?
“A riot is the language of the unheard” -Martin Luther King “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable” -JFK
A rightly disgruntled population who have become increasingly poorer - suffered 14 years of Conservative self-aggrandisement - what we are seeing is entirely wrong, but it is happening - and the worst elements of society are using the generic societal depression as an opportunity.
For quite a few years now ordinary people have voiced concerns about mass migration and illegal migration and it has affected their communities greatly. The politicians are out of touch with the people. Latika Bourke has made some good points.
Yes, sure. If you want the voice of the people in the street, you saw them last night - standing up for decency and peaceful behaviour. I'm sure you were there.
There's been Pro-Palestine marches every weekend since Oct. There's absolutely no reason at all why this can't happen every weekend. Especially if some among those who are legitimately protesting about Two-Tier Policing, Two-Tier Justice, Two-Tier governance (privileging certain groups for employment and education opportunities over others in that "some are more equal than others" type way) from Two-Tier Starmer, actually get organised to protest peacefully and plan for a co-ordinated campaign of civil disobedience, etc.
Absolutely no reason for sectarian rioting & violence to happen every weekend. Largely peaceful protest over immigration, cost of living, fake culture wars, taxes, etc, sure, go for it. It is funny there was none of this behaviour during the Tories 14 years, who are largely responsible
Given the head-stomping at Manchester Airport, Choudary now in jail for life, and the disproportionate (relate to the general population) number of Muslims in prison, the notion of “two tier policing” that somehow favours them is utter bunk.
There's absolutely no problem with protests happening every week, so long as they are peaceful and don't incite racial hatred. The problem is throwing bricks, smashing glass, burning down police stations and torching taxis are not exactly what you would call peaceful, now are they?
Latika speaks at lot of common sense. Radio Times has been complicit in the silence around this subject. However, I commend you for finally trying to have the conversation, albeit reluctantly!
Economics, GB is barely growing and GDP per person is no doubt dropping however for a government the headlines around recessions and negative growth are devastating. Having high immigration fuels the economy and avoids that crash and until now they would prefer to be asked hard questions about migration rather than explain why the economy has collapsed and people are jobless.
@macca2342 no but a good portion are on social housing and I dont see why we should tolerate that during a housing shortage. You don't think 700,000 people don't need immediate housing, they need to live somewhere when they get here. And do stop pretending their all doctors and engineers, they're not 🤣 we can still invite doctors and nurses and engineers without importing jitrats from the third world with no way to support themselves
@@lewis123417 You have been conned. Go to any big place. Walk into the shops, get a taxi, got into the hospital, go to a college. You will see hard-working migrants, keeping the country growing in the face of a massive decline in fertility. Quite simply, each woman in this country is producing just 1.7 children. That means a cut in population of nearly a quarter with each generation. Yes, increased longevity means that the population is going up, but the number of workers to look after the disabled and elderly has been falling. That means a massive burden for the country. Governments won't tell you this because they know most people will just see it as an excuse. But an excuse for what? An excuse for losing voters by having migrants entering the country? Why on earth would they do this? No, they need migrants until the baby boomer generation has largely gone. But they can't tell you that. I can. Check it out.
This is the whole thing- the people have been trying to talk for ages - the point is that nobody listened - hence the massive outpouring born from years of pent up anger & frustration
And leave you without enough workers to pay pensions, provide social care and health care, and provide you with economic growth. That wouldn't calm anything down!
@@alana8863 Net zero immigration until there is a legitimate plan in place. If I wanted to emigrate to the EU it takes 5 to 7 years to get citizenship and I would need to speak and write an EU language.
They've only just been elected and poor Latika is already having a conniption lol. I love watching right wingers melt down when they lose, it's really entertaining.
@@MikePhillipsTraining he cancelled last minute because of the uproar. His and your denial of the issue of mass migration , inequality, two tier policing and the spread of islam, plus your own medias misinformation is what has created this situation. This has been bewwing for years, the man with "no motive" lit the fire
@chrimbus71 Where is your evidence of this please? There is a lot of falsehoods and misinformation being spread via social media. I'd be grateful if you could provide a source for you claim.
I guess all you ladies have a personal security team so are not subject to fear when checking your postbox or popping to the shop for a pint of milk..!
Starmer was an editor for Socialist Alternatives of the International Revolutionary Marxist Tendency (IRMT) and sympathized with Pabloite/Trotsky politics. (Trotsky with Lenin created the Judaic Blshevik Party that trtred and committed geno side against 10 million Rus Christians between 1919-1925). So yes, Britain's PM is a verifiable far-left extrmst. This is very alarming. And has quite worrying connotations for Britain's safety and Democracy.
9:15 "Don't we also have to think about politicians' languge?" Yes, such as "Diversity is our strength" or "Cultural enrichment" or "Irregular immigrants" or "asylum seekers". And when "you're constantly drip dripping this idea of..." ...of far-right racists? Is that one of those ideas? Or does it only cut in one direction? Could there not be a consequence of that too?
We have conversations about immigration all the time. It is all Britain talks about. We need to have a conversation about how the establishment has created one of the most unequal economies in western Europe. And uses scapegoats to blame people and distract from the economic structural problems the elite created for their profit
Illegal immigration is not ok - absolutely right. This is why everything is kicking off. People have had enough. The immigration policy - legal and illegal - needs to be changed as soon as possible.
They would have done it anyway. The present government was voted in literally a month ago. It takes longer than that to raise this level of resentment.
Those ‘beliefs’ (04:59) have to be articulated coherently. And if they are shown to be false then those who entertain them have to modify their thoughts and behaviour accordingly. This idea of opening up a dialogue , whilst prima facie laudable, is heavily constrained. It is not clear to me that the rioters are amenable to that kind of engagement. Macron infamously said the day after beating Hollande, ‘Ce n’est pas la rue qui décide”. It would be an error to think Macron was being anti-democratic.
The point about 'reigning in language' aka shutting up, is so jarring to listen to. They have literally just been having a conversation about people not being able to express themselves and their supressed resentment and this is almost as it the interviewer has been outside the room for the rest of the interview. The likes of Suella Braverman and Farage provide a vent to air the ideas of people who disagree with mass migration. We are not being somehow riled up by them, they are just stating facts that we all can clearly see. This kind of infantilization is exactly why people feel disconnected with the 'elite political class' as referenced earlier in the interview.
KS rightfully doesn’t believe in engaging just for the sake of it. The excessive migration issue will be solved by Labour. The discussion about it is what the other party did and yet showed absolutely no results in 14 years. Pitiful. Why’s this foreign woman musing on issues in our country. I think it’s time for KS to actually call in the army, Theres a lot of other more important work to be done.
How can anyone discuss and debate when they are shouted down and called racist each time you try to talk about it. This has gone on for far too long and people have had enough.
As far as i can see our politicians have talked a lot about immigration as have the media. They should have been talking about what really effects people - cost of living and inequality. But that's not in the medias interest so i won't hold my breath.
Are all our ancestors who fought the wara farbeight then. They would be defending britain to the hilt and if it meant deporting starmer he would be gone and no coming back to the country. Glory to all who fought for our country we remember and never forget what you did for us. We all need to stand and rise against the evil in this country. God bless all our fallen heroes and our soldiers today.
We come from Bradford, but I’ve lived in Australia most of my life. One perception I have fo the UK can be summed up with the very British phrase ‘hurty words’. The fact Police will turn up at a persons doorstep for unpopular opinions is concerning. Outright racism or threats I can understand. The uneven suppression of ‘thought’ for fear of Police intervention would have to create a simmering of hostility. I’m not there though, so I can only work on what I hear and see.
I think we can all agree rioting and causing damage is not acceptable BUT Starmer, Cooper and the whole Labour needs calling out by the media regardless of being left or right politically. As soon as he finished his speech, I knew he'd made a huge error of judgement, as to how angry millions feel in Britain. As prime minister, who's been elected on a minority vote, who is over represented in mp numbers in parliament, you are seen as a glass house majority party. 80% of eligible voters didn't vote for Labour. He said nothing about what went on in Leeds. Laid flowers and as prime minister made no attempt to talk to the crowd. Personally the Conservatives, Lib dems, Greens and Reformuk should call a vote of no confidence in Labour and even though they won't win. It'll make it perfectly clear Labour is on thin ice. I actually think, unless he comes out and apologises. Things will get worse.
Those people who have a problem with it literally need to accept the fact that they are Far Right, Na2is and racist. At least the right in the states accept the titles...
what the rochdale grooming gangs? the batley teacher chasing, the reading murders, the manchester bombings, the slaughter of kids at a party, the soldier who was just killed, the southend machete fights...what does he promote?
@chrimbus71 Grifyers like Talk TV and GB News promote conspiracy theories. So does Farage with his wink wink nudge nudge between 2 union Jacks like Oswald Mosley.
Please stop talking about the political class. As much as the middle-class want to believe that their point of view is more relevant, no body listens to the middle-class- and why should they? Politicians have to convince voters rather than coercing. Voters need representative Government. We need Proportional Representation. That's the only way to give every voter a stake in their society.
“Riots are the voice of the unheard” - Martin Luther King
Do not twist his words. He was talking in the context of violence against black people in the civil rights era and would have condemned the despicable racism of the extreme right.
Wise words
@@ChristineSutherwood Not if a quote is taken out of context.
Pretty much!!
Madame. If the powers take away your voice and refuse to listen to your concerns.. how is a civilized community to react…? They promised a border security group… we’re still waiting… 2 days after Southport he had already organisés a security group to handle the British rioters..! What about the Islam rioters.. why is he promising to make safety for Islamists a priority over native concern….
"We're still waiting".
They've only been in power a month dude. Do you want something that works, or something that's done extremely quickly? You can't have both. Proper solutions take time.
You've literally just had a general election, the perfect opportunity to express your voice. Did you even bother to vote?
@@drummingtildeath- Sure, but all the measures Labour have proposed will clearly exacerbate the problems.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 like what?
Wow, what a surprise. He can't name a single one.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 How are you going to defend your statement, where is your proof?
No need for 24 hour courts in Manchester. The two airport thugs still haven't been charged...
@ipohtennischannel5482 that's down to the independent police complaints mob dragging their feet.
They just walked out of Manchester Airport after launching that horrific attack. No white indigenous Brit would be allowed to do that.
@@JupiterThunder I agree with you
@@JupiterThunder. Tripe.
The family of those fylth even raised a formal complaint on the grounds that they showed the part of the video where their little darlings violently assaulted a woman. It's not two tier policing, it's policing (for us) and complete freedom (for the savvvages).
How do you engage with people's beliefs when they are insane?
You start by listening to them, and learning what they really believe, so you can model the way they think. Then you learn which parts of their belief system are truly insane. And which parts have some merit. You use your newfound understanding to make better versions of their good arguments, and more effectively pick apart their bad arguments. Over time, most people will move towards this more reasonable position. One you can compromise and coexist with. (Though there will always be some who are fundamentally unreasonable.)
Which is why I don't talk to Muslims.
maybe the issue is you thinking they are insane and u cannot talk to them? If you are not willing to talk then how will u know?
Well isn't that the problem? The Labour party in particular decided in the 80s that they weren't going to be discussing working class issues with working-class people. They stopped listening and talking. Now they've lost the art of discussing things properly because they can't talk to all voters as equals. It doesn't matter if you want to be a bit sniffy about who you talk to. Those people are in the streets because this is their country, just as much as it's yours.
You cant reason a person out of a position they didnt reason themselves into.
The British people tried talking about these concerns twenty years or more ago but the government's refused to listen..
and called anyone that did far right. just as they are doing now.
70,000 in Sunderland in a few years. It's a run-down neglected area getting made worse. 1 in 6 are migrants.
According to the Centre for Cities Sunderland has received the smallest increase in migrants of English cities.
Since 2011 the percentage of Sunderland residents who were not born in the UK has risen from 4% of the population to 5%.
As of the 2021 census there were 275,000 people living in Sunderland. 5% of that is 13,750, the 1% increase since 2011 being 2,750.
That's along way short of 70k.
So tell me, where did you get such a spurious figure from, and what did you do to verify it??
Numbers do not matter, they are not wanted, no matter how few..
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar Probably from Tommy's News Channel. Apparently it has insight into unique information and figures.
@@mayamelagia- TR’s figures on Luton are pretty frightening. Luton has always been the centre of his concerns and having grown up there and seen the almost complete replacement of the local community, that’s what he talks about most of the time.
The problem is if anybody says that they are against immigration they are labelled as racist and far right. In this piece the presenter has labelled Farage as far right but she cannot articulate why he is far right other than saying he is anti immigration. The other problem is all governments have been dishonest about the levels of immigration. During the Brexit debates the government stated that there were 1 million EU people living in the UK. When they had to register to remain in the UK it turned out there were many times that number. The conservatives were prevented from pursuing their policies and allowed 750,000 immigrants to enter the UK in a single year. Labour have only been in power for a matter of weeks and they have scrapped the Rwanda scheme, closed the immigration detention centres and announced an effective amnesty for asylum seekers. These actions have been a catalyst for these riots as much as the tragic murders in Southport. Burning and looting shops, throwing stones at the police and mosques does not help stop the immigration we are currently seeing. The Labour Party needs to address this issue with some credible policies to completely stop ALL immigration. If not I fear that people will be pushed to the extremes. We need to make it clear to immigrants that they not only need to integrate into our society, they need to assimilate. The Muslims have voted in several MP’s who support terrorists who promote genocide in the form of HAMAS. This was not a good sign of things to come.
the Rwanda scheme. yes it has been aborted. Are you aware that part of the scheme required that we took Rwandan political prisoners in return? So a one-in-out making no difference to the numbers. Secondly, the asylum seekers would be processed in Rwanda, those who were granted asylum would remain in Rwanda. Those deemed not needing asylum would be returned to the country they arrived from ie THEY WOULD BE RETURNED TO THE UK. and I'm not going to mention the cost. How was this ever going to resolve the problem?
I'm from foreign & Muslim orgin myself however i understand the anger.
Asylum seekers & migrants take low skilled jobs from low skilled English citizens, and they contribute to lowering woking conditions, including wages, by accepting any working conditions.That is the real problem, or that is what they think is the real problem, and the crime rate may be higher among people from foreign origins as well.
So until the government does something to solve these issues, part of the population would continue to feel upset about it.
I don’t like far-right, I don’t like their hatred but stereotyping all the upset people that they are only far-right will not help.
Most sensible comment I've read. At least someone is trying to understand where the other side is coming from. Starmer refuses to.
OK, 750,000 work visas issued last year.
38,000 asylum seekers last year.
So the asylum numbers are less than 5% of the migration figures for last year.
I would suggest that the evidence shows its not asylum seekers taking jobs, but work visas being issued for sectors which need workers.
To the OP, while it's indeed wise to tackle legitimate underlying economic concerns, thats not the reason people are attacking mosques. Those attacking mosques are white supremacists who hate Islam and would round you up and deport you in a heartbeat.
Well said !!
That's utter bullocks. Most Muslim workers take jobs that the English aren't a part of, such as becoming taxi drivers or working in takeaways.
everything the immigrants are given has been taken from poor indigenous people who have already had so much removed from their lives by sucessive governments and now their dignity making them second class citizens in the own land ... what are they meant to do wait another four years just to put a cross in a box ...
Various people have warned about this for 50 years
Or adjitated for?
And they got it wrong. You might try to provoke violence because you feel you don't have an identity, but you've lost.
Labour have been in power a month no mention of the mess the tories have left...
Latika does the same in Aus. She's a tory shill.
Both parties Agreed to it
@@twisteddancer7773 Agreed to what?
It's Labour's mess now; they wanted it. They've got it.
Inherited mess .
Good to see the British and Irish stand shoulder to shoulder in Belfast against what is clearly an invasion of our homelands.
Don't call the people of Belfast Irish. They call themselves British. They are not part of Eire.
There are 2,708 asylum seekers in Belfast - that's 0.78% of the city's population.
That's hardly an invasion, now is it?
PMSL the irony of this is brilliant
What invasion is this then?
@@eoslovestithonus It's in their febrile imaginations.
Free UK from aliens😎
I agree, we need to have a republic. Down with the royals 😅
Well done all the Irish people marching on together
Far right; anyone who doesn't think uncontrolled immigration and priority for migrants for social housing etc is a good idea.
No, racists and fascists.
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillarOh, you mean the Hamas, terrorists supporting, Jew hating left?
@TheHookaSmokingCaterpillar. Oooh! Racist & Fascist, how original..
@@kerrybayton2954 true though.
@@marmadukesandwich Not really though.
Two tier policing …… have the Manchester Airport 4 been charged yet? It’s two weeks ago now but anyone defending their own country arrested yesterday will be in court tomorrow!
They are on police bail while investigations continue, pretty much the same as has happened to the cop who kicked the guy in the head.
There is no two-tier policing.
you have a pretty interesting interpretation of 'defending'
@@Richard-ob2sp that’s because I don’t have myopia
Debates about immigration are not allowed, you would be instantly shouted down as a far right racist for suggesting it.
God, we've damaged the economy for you Brexit lot.
How much damage do you require before you are satisfied?
Run along son, your mum wants her phone back.
You two are kinda proving his point 😂
@@johnadey9464 this isnt a debate, it's violence in the street.
BS.
Immigration has been on the political agenda for ages. Brexit was all about getting labour migrants out. Tories enacted a plan to export asylum seekers to Ruanda, FFS ! They were willing to change laws and treaties and ignore human rights for it. So please don't play the "we're being ignored" card, it's so fake.
Think about why it has happened, Hello Hello, little children were murdered. Mister. brutally murdered.
You don’t care about these kids. Your just making excuses for fascists.
This has nothing to do with the tragic murders.
It has everything to do with racism and fascism.
Ask yourself, why did the rioters in Southport attack a mosque???
Because we are sick of the government's falling over themselves to comply with Islam! You don't seem to understand anything do you..
"Tories would limit immigration to 'tens of thousands' a year, says Cameron"
This article is more than 14 years old
Conservative leader says net immigration of 200,000 people a year is 'too much'
Today’s provisional estimates put immigration in 2023 at 1,218,000
Cameron highered the financial threshold on applications.
@@Skygrey2943 David Cameron also cancelled the EUID card, and sacked the long standing Head of the Border's Agency - Brodie Clarke, and kept Theresa May in the Home Office for six years - longest serving Home Sec ever, while she failed to deliver on his core pledge, to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands. By the time of the 2016 EU referendum, in which Cameron claimed to be a Remainer, immigration was 633,000. It has since doubled. They lied, and frankly I'd like them held accountable for their lies in some more tangible way than voting them out of office.
He meant tens of thousands a week.
@@michaelbrian219 That's a clever joke, but I'm not laughing! Cameron needs to be criminally prosecuted for misconduct in public office, lose his Knighthood, and the index linked final salary pension, taxpayers would otherwise have to pay for the rest of his life.
Courts won’t stop it.
They use the term invasion because that's what it is.
An armed encrouchment by people intent on killing a specific group? Yes, that's what the nurse told me she was planning after caring for elderly people this morning.
What about the Muslim's attacking with machetes and hammers in stoke, while the police did nothing...
When did that happen?
When did this come in?
@@BarnabyRudge-sx3pbcheck the channel. Waste of time replying.
@@BarnabyRudge-sx3pb Yesterday. Full battle line brandishing clubs, swords and knives clearly seen.
@BarnabyRudge-sx3pb There's videos of dozens of armed Muslims walking straight through police lines towards the English.
Peter Caldwell is wrong. We do have a point. We voted Brexit 10 years ago but there is no reduction. I am not far right. I am 63 yrs old ,white and female and I am scared to walk my dog at night in my city. It is disgusting to be going past a local shop and to be sneered at by people that are not of my race, nor do they speak my language - also they are all male and intimidating
Perhaps you could try saying hello? When I do that with the Muslims near where I live they are friendly back to me.
As do my Chinese, African, Jamaican, Sikh and many white neighbours.
Thank god that at night Brit born teenagers are so kind and charitable! Never causing trouble, and certainly not sneering!
If you think that Brexit was a vote to cut migration, you got lied to.
There is ZERO excuse for deliberate. organised violence, and opportunistic looting. Both are criminal acts.
As are the actions of the two brothers breaking the nose of the police woman at Manchester Airport, yet they weren't even held overnight, and then they rioted in Rochdale. Did the police kettle those rioters.
Gandhi... this isn't about salt tax.
@@user-bu9nb8wr6eThose involved in the MCR airport event we're given police bail whilst investigations continue, pretty much the same as the cop that kicked the guy in the head.
Kettling is only used with large crowds, not the case in Leeds. The police contained the riot, just like they did in Southport.
As of a week ago there had been four arrests I. Leeds, with a further 49 suspects to be investigated.
There is no double standard.
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar I think you need to watch the London livestream. Livestreamed from beginning to end with no editing. A crowd of 80, no violence, no bad language, not even any placards. Kettled for two hours before the police said to each other (and this is recorded on audio) "Just pick out anyone," after which the cops went in dozens of times and arrested people for no reason, using considerable force. In the end the journalist filming was arrested, and he videoed the whole thing. The motto is, get a clue before you comment.
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar Well said - thanks for being the voice of reason here. There's a lot of childish whataboutism being employed to excuse these rioters.
Religion and Racism this after the life off those poor girls 🙏
Do away with religion and you won't have racism
The problem is not "religion" nor racism, the problem is islam and the woke globalist establishment - and their media.
We have been talking but nobody’s listening
No, people are listening, they are just not agreeing.
Rule of law and quality of life made this country attractive to immigrants. I'm sure, that is going to change now.
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar Thats what they want you to believe. But its absolutely not true. You'll see.
Why do you keep calling it far right?
If the cap fits...
Because they think it sounds scary!
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar which it doesnt. Cmon, stop being such a sped.
@@andyb3522 But it does, and the jack boot.
14 years of Austerity has destroyed the average person. Private equity is DEVOURING the UK and people are angry. Of course this is happening.
No its not only that its
Blair opens the border > People vote in tories on promise to lower migration > Migration gets worse > Brexit vote to control the borders and for us to be in control > Border still goes on when promise of border controls All the while people fearing about the population decline and fear of people who hate them becoming majority (they feel uk will become lebanon) and nobody will listen to them.
Plus where were all these concerned citizens during the 14 years of austerity? Oh let's wait until there's a new Government in town to show our displeasure...my eyes aren't just rolling, they're swivelling right now!
Europe must have they countries back. They culture back and they believes in the first place. This it's our house.
😂
Talk is cheap, Times is expensive.
And if people do try to talk they are accused of being racists
Another bunch of talking heads in London who don't understand our country,
They understand your country--they just want to destroy it is all.
Yes, that's why the racists won the General Election.
Starmer and the labour party need to face a vote on no confifence because they have lost control.
They've sorted it out, you'll be pleased to hear. Thugs getting imprisoned, propagandists lying on the web being tracked with a view to extradite foreign extremists, decent people reclaiming their streets, Far-Right agitators telling thugs not to attend brick-throwing sessions, police numbers sufficient to deal with these bright boys.
They did well, didn't they? So a vote of congratulations to the police and the government is in order, perhaps?
Why is Nigel Farage wrong to say Sunderland has been “ invaded” when it clearly has? The United Kingdom has, and is being invaded by people from different continents and cultures, at odds with our culture of Western civilisation. Just as the islands of Britain were invaded by the Romans, the Anglo-Saxons, the Vikings and the Normans. Luckily, probably after years or decades, the newcomers and those already living in the lands assimilated, to varying degrees. But what is happening now is happening too quickly and the newcomers have no desire or plan to assimilate. To my mind they wish to retain their own culture and practices 100%, to dominate and replace us and to take over!😬🇬🇧❤️❤️
Invasion is by a group of people intent on mass slaughter.
Do learn the meanings of words before you claim to know what they mean.
But then again, I do remember the lovely taxi driver who brought my very old relative to the door, carrying his bag, having done everything possible for him, saying he was intent on genocide. Or was it to take him back safely when he returned?
Oh, yes, it was to help him on his return journey.
So confusing to bigots, isn't it?
Our culture will absorb that of migrants, just as all other countries do the same. Just as we have always done. Like fish and chips? Jewish meal. Still driving your German car, watching your Japanese TV, observing your Middle Eastern religion, watching American films, wearing your Italian clothes, eating your French cheese?
those protesting clearly feel they have nothing left to lose ...
Everyone is sick of double standard policing and having to fit in with foreigners instead of them fitting in with us.
There is no two-tier policing just your self-inflicted sense of victimhood and a failure to do basic research.
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillaryes there is are you blind ?
No way do I condone the violence, but if you don't have a clue how all this kicked off, then you haven't got a clue about the country you claim to report on, I'm afraid that's why people are turning away from the mainstream media.
Right out of the gate Labour had talks with rioting Muslims, apologised to violent Muslim & condemned the police. A peaceful March was named right wing, in which a Hamas supporter was walked right through them. The organiser was then held for hours on counter terrorism powers.
Children were murdered & brutally injured … all that happened was 2 photo ops. Then spitting with anger statements at people filling the vacuum with riots.
What are you smoking?
The riots in Southport are disgusting, and should have absolutely nothing to do with the memory of those kids. Not in their names. Clearly the lad that did that was deranged, regardless of what he thought he was doing. You could understand people venting at Keir Starmer when he turned up there, being as failures to improve the standard of public services like the police presence in local communities, have an impact on these sorts of situation and he is the PM. Going out and rioting in that community does nothing positive to address any of this.
I think expecting a four-week-old government to have reformed public services after 14 years of Tory misrule is absurd to say the least.
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar Maybe so, but Starmer is now the face of politics UK and people will vent at him because of that. I'm sure he expects to deal with this sort of thing. And its not about only the Tory party, Labour are as culpable for the current state of the UK as the Torys are, they made a total mess during the Blair Brown years and handed over a shambles as well, and started the uncontrolled immigration issue back in their day. Sadly Starmer doesn't look like he is going to actually do anything about it, which will just make it worse, the result being this sort of trouble is going be more likely to happen.
@@theoutsider6191 So you don't think setting up a Command to deal with small boats, starting to clear the backlog of asylum claims and starting negotiations over asylum seekers with other European nations is anything?
I'd say that wasn't bad for four weeks in office. Is more than the Tories did in 14 years!!!
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar No, what Starmer is doing is going to encourage more of the small boats, not solve the problem. He has stated he will not leave the ECHR constraints or reform the Refugee Charters we are signed up to, meaning the problem will get worse, not better. He also is saying that they will process claims faster and basically this means they are going to let many stay legally after having arrived illegally, which again will do nothing to deter anyone from making the journey illegally. Now, i don't really care about the long term impact of much of this, but many people will make lots of mileage out of this.... as they are currently.
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar No, what Starmer is going to do is going to make the situation worse not better. Openly stating the ECHR will be staying, and no intent to review the international convention/treaties on Refugees means this will be the case. Add to that their intent to rapidly process illegal migrants to gain official status of being allowed to stay, and that will compound the problem. Neither of these things are going to deter people from trying to arrive illegally, quite the opposite.
The current rot started 1997.
Of course, it's so clear to us all! Have a look at the figures rather than your prejudices.
Sorry, these people are wrong; who is that foreigner?
They are wrong, as you say, but being part of the national leadership is a responsibility to manage it in such a way these things don't erupt. Labour is putting fuel on the fire and they will make the country much worse. I don't believe this would have happened under Tories and believe Tommy Robinson is more to blame than that boy who stabbed those girls.
All these people condemning a working class movement when people have been denied any voice for so long. 'Remember your place' , 'do your jobs and obey your masters, do not take the law into your hands'. You may vote for a party but don't expect it to represent you.
Tories in power for 728 weeks, Labour in power for 4 weeks
And it four weeks the best plan labour has is to freeze granny
And in 4 weeks they've done more to destroy the country that the Conservatives did in 14 years.
It only took them four weeks to declare war on the working class who they claim to stand up for. Starmer really is a blithering idiot.
@@rolandhawken6628 underrated comment
Starmer is between a rock and a hard place as there is no magic bullet to fix the migration crisis. Even if the boats were stopped today and there was a total freeze on legal migration, the demographic change that has taken place already in the UK cannot be reversed but only slowed. The figure of 685,000 which is often quoted for last year's net migration also needs some clarification. Net migration is the difference between immigration and emigration. Immigration into the UK over the recent years was driven by an increase in mostly non-EU citizens. The majority of the increase in non-EU arrivals from 2019 to 2023 occurred through the work and study routes, with health and care as the main industry driving the growth in work migration. In 2023 approximately 1.2 million people entered the country whereas around 532,000 left, 98,000 of whom were British citizens, 202,000 were EU citizens, and a further 233,000 were non-EU citizens. Of the 1.2 million entering a vast majority were from third world countries. So the actual number of non-European immigration which seems to cause the most reseentment is a lot higher than the net figure of 685,000. This has been going on for years.
It's been less than a month. The disattisfaction is with the Tory government and their 14 years of misrule and corruption, and gimmicky politics like the Rwanda flights.
dont think so
Clueless.
Nah, they are facists disappointed with having a more liberal government. They liked the Tories punching down, because they are pathetic.
Pmsl i don't think these people are rioting against the Rwanda policy 😂😂
Rein in the language? If politicians rein in their language, activists and demagogues will emerge who do use that language. This is not an issue that can be manipulated with the right words, it is an existential problem. Latika talking about "pace of change" still comes off as patronising. Why must there be change at all? What change? Demographic replacement?
Replacement?
Paranoia?
dissatisfaction with the government, which one. This is a long time brewing.
dissatisfaction with the government - after barely 2 dog days..
the majority of britons didn't vote for him that's why
@@Daisy-tl2lh reform didn't get majority either, even in pure numbers.
Blaming the "Other" is as old as time. As is blaming "illegal" immigration.
“A riot is the language of the unheard”
-Martin Luther King
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable”
-JFK
Well taken out of context!
A rightly disgruntled population who have become increasingly poorer - suffered 14 years of Conservative self-aggrandisement - what we are seeing is entirely wrong, but it is happening - and the worst elements of society are using the generic societal depression as an opportunity.
Starmer declared war on the British people 😅
He has in a way.
Nope, just the rioting traitors
No he didn't. You are either a fool or a troll.
War on thugs? Are we all thugs then?
The laughter emoji always warns me that we're not dealing with genius.
For quite a few years now ordinary people have voiced concerns about mass migration and illegal migration and it has affected their communities greatly. The politicians are out of touch with the people. Latika Bourke has made some good points.
Far Right - are you sure?
Are you sure that it not the voice of the man in the street?
Yes, sure. If you want the voice of the people in the street, you saw them last night - standing up for decency and peaceful behaviour. I'm sure you were there.
We need politicians who respect the British people.
For obvious reasons the roof is coming off whilst these muppets dance around their handbags…
There's been Pro-Palestine marches every weekend since Oct. There's absolutely no reason at all why this can't happen every weekend.
Especially if some among those who are legitimately protesting about Two-Tier Policing, Two-Tier Justice, Two-Tier governance (privileging certain groups for employment and education opportunities over others in that "some are more equal than others" type way) from Two-Tier Starmer, actually get organised to protest peacefully and plan for a co-ordinated campaign of civil disobedience, etc.
Quite a difference between marches and violent riots now.
Absolutely no reason for sectarian rioting & violence to happen every weekend. Largely peaceful protest over immigration, cost of living, fake culture wars, taxes, etc, sure, go for it.
It is funny there was none of this behaviour during the Tories 14 years, who are largely responsible
Given the head-stomping at Manchester Airport, Choudary now in jail for life, and the disproportionate (relate to the general population) number of Muslims in prison, the notion of “two tier policing” that somehow favours them is utter bunk.
Marching against war is different to rioting because the country has gone down the crapper so 'let's blame it on the migrants'.
There's absolutely no problem with protests happening every week, so long as they are peaceful and don't incite racial hatred.
The problem is throwing bricks, smashing glass, burning down police stations and torching taxis are not exactly what you would call peaceful, now are they?
Latika speaks at lot of common sense. Radio Times has been complicit in the silence around this subject. However, I commend you for finally trying to have the conversation, albeit reluctantly!
Silent about what, they were talking about illegal immigration every day under the Tories. They are complicit in this.
It’s more about the 700,000 yearly putting pressure on systems that are already broken
Why is legal immigration at 700,000 when we've been voting for governments to reduce immigration
Economics, GB is barely growing and GDP per person is no doubt dropping however for a government the headlines around recessions and negative growth are devastating. Having high immigration fuels the economy and avoids that crash and until now they would prefer to be asked hard questions about migration rather than explain why the economy has collapsed and people are jobless.
@@macca2342 I don't see how importing people to sit on the social housing list is in anyway helping the GDP per capita in this country
@@lewis123417 You think 7000,000 people are sitting on that list? How would the NHS cope without nurses and doctors?
@macca2342 no but a good portion are on social housing and I dont see why we should tolerate that during a housing shortage. You don't think 700,000 people don't need immediate housing, they need to live somewhere when they get here. And do stop pretending their all doctors and engineers, they're not 🤣 we can still invite doctors and nurses and engineers without importing jitrats from the third world with no way to support themselves
@@lewis123417 You have been conned.
Go to any big place. Walk into the shops, get a taxi, got into the hospital, go to a college. You will see hard-working migrants, keeping the country growing in the face of a massive decline in fertility. Quite simply, each woman in this country is producing just 1.7 children. That means a cut in population of nearly a quarter with each generation.
Yes, increased longevity means that the population is going up, but the number of workers to look after the disabled and elderly has been falling. That means a massive burden for the country.
Governments won't tell you this because they know most people will just see it as an excuse. But an excuse for what? An excuse for losing voters by having migrants entering the country? Why on earth would they do this?
No, they need migrants until the baby boomer generation has largely gone. But they can't tell you that. I can. Check it out.
This is the whole thing- the people have been trying to talk for ages - the point is that nobody listened - hence the massive outpouring born from years of pent up anger & frustration
Simple, reflect the will of the people and CLOSE THE BORDERS!
Announcing 'Net Zero Immigration' would begin to calm things down!
And leave you without enough workers to pay pensions, provide social care and health care, and provide you with economic growth. That wouldn't calm anything down!
@@alana8863 Net zero immigration until there is a legitimate plan in place. If I wanted to emigrate to the EU it takes 5 to 7 years to get citizenship and I would need to speak and write an EU language.
They've only just been elected and poor Latika is already having a conniption lol. I love watching right wingers melt down when they lose, it's really entertaining.
STARMER HAS JUST GONE ON HOLIDAYS TOO!!!
just a few weeks into the job and he runs away whilst Britain burns. Pathetic
Except he hasn't just gone on holiday hope that helps.
@@pip1723 yes, he has just cancelled...poor guy. HE is so hopeless, closing in on Lettuce Liz as the worst pm ever. Will he last 46 days
He's in the country and working. Spreading lies and misinformation is what created this situation.
You are spreading misinformation. Stop it
@@MikePhillipsTraining he cancelled last minute because of the uproar. His and your denial of the issue of mass migration , inequality, two tier policing and the spread of islam, plus your own medias misinformation is what has created this situation. This has been bewwing for years, the man with "no motive" lit the fire
@chrimbus71 Where is your evidence of this please? There is a lot of falsehoods and misinformation being spread via social media.
I'd be grateful if you could provide a source for you claim.
I guess all you ladies have a personal security team so are not subject to fear when checking your postbox or popping to the shop for a pint of milk..!
Ignoring the people, smearing the people and threatening the people all for the sake of denying public demand, like dictators
0:14 Talking about migration????
What else is talked about in the UK??
A Party ran solely on migration.
What other conversations should be had??
Free UK😎
It's not far right It's people who had enough
Always far right protests. Make sure you include the words, far right.
Yes, when Left-wingers start rioting about immigration, we will change it.
Starmer was an editor for Socialist Alternatives of the International Revolutionary Marxist Tendency (IRMT) and sympathized with Pabloite/Trotsky politics. (Trotsky with Lenin created the Judaic Blshevik Party that trtred and committed geno side against 10 million Rus Christians between 1919-1925). So yes, Britain's PM is a verifiable far-left extrmst.
This is very alarming. And has quite worrying connotations for Britain's safety and Democracy.
😂😂😂
So was Peter Hitchens.
You state as fact things the Wikipedia article you lifted your text from says are contested. Why is that?
I was three years old. I have the proof. Yet I drive a car and have a responsible job.
How does that work?
9:15 "Don't we also have to think about politicians' languge?"
Yes, such as "Diversity is our strength" or "Cultural enrichment" or "Irregular immigrants" or "asylum seekers".
And when "you're constantly drip dripping this idea of..." ...of far-right racists? Is that one of those ideas? Or does it only cut in one direction? Could there not be a consequence of that too?
We have conversations about immigration all the time. It is all Britain talks about. We need to have a conversation about how the establishment has created one of the most unequal economies in western Europe. And uses scapegoats to blame people and distract from the economic structural problems the elite created for their profit
Illegal immigration is not ok - absolutely right. This is why everything is kicking off. People have had enough. The immigration policy - legal and illegal - needs to be changed as soon as possible.
This has been building up from before Peter boy-child was out of shorts. Latika is the only one talking any semblance of sense.
I saw this coming 30 yrs.ago. And it’s going to get worse.
They would have done it anyway. The present government was voted in literally a month ago. It takes longer than that to raise this level of resentment.
Those ‘beliefs’ (04:59) have to be articulated coherently. And if they are shown to be false then those who entertain them have to modify their thoughts and behaviour accordingly.
This idea of opening up a dialogue , whilst prima facie laudable, is heavily constrained. It is not clear to me that the rioters are amenable to that kind of engagement.
Macron infamously said the day after beating Hollande, ‘Ce n’est pas la rue qui décide”. It would be an error to think Macron was being anti-democratic.
Wow, she's so ignorant of the Tory policies which caused these issues, especially regarding _"illegal immigration... and rocking up on our shores"!_
The point about 'reigning in language' aka shutting up, is so jarring to listen to. They have literally just been having a conversation about people not being able to express themselves and their supressed resentment and this is almost as it the interviewer has been outside the room for the rest of the interview. The likes of Suella Braverman and Farage provide a vent to air the ideas of people who disagree with mass migration. We are not being somehow riled up by them, they are just stating facts that we all can clearly see. This kind of infantilization is exactly why people feel disconnected with the 'elite political class' as referenced earlier in the interview.
KS rightfully doesn’t believe in engaging just for the sake of it. The excessive migration issue will be solved by Labour. The discussion about it is what the other party did and yet showed absolutely no results in 14 years. Pitiful. Why’s this foreign woman musing on issues in our country. I think it’s time for KS to actually call in the army, Theres a lot of other more important work to be done.
austerity leads to populizum always have how else did we get world war 2 .... jeffrey
You are Far Right because you are White but also Right
Talking wasn't and isn't allowed on the subject. That's part of the problem.
How can anyone discuss and debate when they are shouted down and called racist each time you try to talk about it. This has gone on for far too long and people have had enough.
We had a general election. Get over it.
So why did you complain about the Tories?
Twice as many people voted for Brexit than for Labour this year. Get over it.
@@paulies5407 And now the majority of brexiteers regret their vote.
Nobody voted for Starmer and he's terrified because he knows he has no mandate.
@@mayamelagia show me the proof of that
Enogh Powell warned us no one listened.
As far as i can see our politicians have talked a lot about immigration as have the media. They should have been talking about what really effects people - cost of living and inequality. But that's not in the medias interest so i won't hold my breath.
Are all our ancestors who fought the wara farbeight then. They would be defending britain to the hilt and if it meant deporting starmer he would be gone and no coming back to the country. Glory to all who fought for our country we remember and never forget what you did for us. We all need to stand and rise against the evil in this country. God bless all our fallen heroes and our soldiers today.
The Government should be listening to its electorate.
How can you blame the government they only been in power few weeks ..The Tories are to blame and their chemists
We come from Bradford, but I’ve lived in Australia most of my life.
One perception I have fo the UK can be summed up with the very British phrase ‘hurty words’. The fact Police will turn up at a persons doorstep for unpopular opinions is concerning. Outright racism or threats I can understand.
The uneven suppression of ‘thought’ for fear of Police intervention would have to create a simmering of hostility.
I’m not there though, so I can only work on what I hear and see.
The people don't work for the government the government work for the people I am a law abiding citizen the government are the out
I think we can all agree rioting and causing damage is not acceptable BUT Starmer, Cooper and the whole Labour needs calling out by the media regardless of being left or right politically. As soon as he finished his speech, I knew he'd made a huge error of judgement, as to how angry millions feel in Britain. As prime minister, who's been elected on a minority vote, who is over represented in mp numbers in parliament, you are seen as a glass house majority party. 80% of eligible voters didn't vote for Labour. He said nothing about what went on in Leeds. Laid flowers and as prime minister made no attempt to talk to the crowd. Personally the Conservatives, Lib dems, Greens and Reformuk should call a vote of no confidence in Labour and even though they won't win. It'll make it perfectly clear Labour is on thin ice. I actually think, unless he comes out and apologises. Things will get worse.
I take it your a Tory voter . Notice it's reported by the times .
Why are allegedly millions allegedly angry?
Those people who have a problem with it literally need to accept the fact that they are Far Right, Na2is and racist. At least the right in the states accept the titles...
This guy from talk tv , promotes this , he gets paid to incite hatred ,
what the rochdale grooming gangs? the batley teacher chasing, the reading murders, the manchester bombings, the slaughter of kids at a party, the soldier who was just killed, the southend machete fights...what does he promote?
@chrimbus71 Grifyers like Talk TV and GB News promote conspiracy theories. So does Farage with his wink wink nudge nudge between 2 union Jacks like Oswald Mosley.
He does not need to incite hatred, we can all see what is happening with our own eyes!😡🇬🇧
Why shut down conversations about Islam. Why is it not addresed.
How strange to be lectured on racism/immigration by an Australian
Latika has been living with her head in the sand for the last 2 decades
He opened his mouth!
Cities burning!
Please stop talking about the political class. As much as the middle-class want to believe that their point of view is more relevant, no body listens to the middle-class- and why should they? Politicians have to convince voters rather than coercing. Voters need representative Government. We need Proportional Representation. That's the only way to give every voter a stake in their society.
What about Muslim defence league why hasn't been banned, of course 2 tier Starmer....
Has it been engaged in rioting?
At 10:08 Latika Bourke states the best summary of this entire debate that I've heard by anyone in the last 8 years.