For clarity: Differences in any specific area of the frequency response for both of these headphones Sub/Low Bass, Low Mids, Upper Mids, Treble are quite small and don't make too much difference by themselves (they sound similar to each other). However, in combination they do seem to result in a fairly large difference in overall sound signature. This review is just this one RUclipsrs opinion. And in this RUclipsrs opinion, the Harman target is the definition of "Neutral" when it comes to a headphones FR. Measurements shown are done using the MiniDSP EARS rig (Not industry standard). The compensation curve being used is the HEQ compensation. This is based off of the Harman curve rather than Diffuse Field. Any headphone that measures correct to the Harman curve should show as flat on this graph. This does not hide any aspect of the FR it presents the info in a different way that is more relevant to the target curve being used. This video was not scripted and thus was a little rambling in places. Opinions were formed by listening tests using reference tracks. FR charts are shown only as a tool to help explain opinions based on listening tests. Opinions stated in this "VS" review are comparative to these two headphones only. For full comparative opinions against other headphones please see the respective full reviews for each headphone.
Quadruple camera guy for audio reviews is born Also for some reason the 361 specs now say titanium coated as well, and I don't remember seeing that initially. So probably just different or cheaper damping Edit: just got my K361 today and can confirm this review is accurate.
@@theinnocent_one Its more than cosmetic differences, unless adding metal and rubber parts to the headband are purely cosmetic to you. The 371 also has a different connector which is much better. The driver *might* be the same but theres clearly differences in internal cup construction or dampening that leads to them sounding different. I think I made a good case fo the 371 being a better headphone but ultimately its up to you if you think its worth it.
@@WheezyTech what is the response of the cheaper one to EQ ? If the drivers are the same, they can possibly put up with minor changes in response to sound like one another using EQ ? I know that the minor difference in FR is probably due to internal cup design and damping, but driver excursion would probably within tolerances ?
I agree with your comment about sub bass. The main sound of the bass in most music happens between 40hz - 50hz to 250 Hz. When you get down to 20hz. to 40hz. It's not really noticeable on most music, except on certain tracks boosted down there at the bottom of the frequency range.
DMS' review came out yesterday and he was also concerned with quality control across the board, he even showed its flaws. Have to say that I got them and so far so good.
Great hp reviews, keep it up! I auditioned K371 some time ago and found it way too shouty. They are pretty good cans overall, with great subbass rumble, while not being muddy, and linear mids (except 3k region). But that upper-mid shoutiness is pretty disturbing, I just cannot understand how can over-ear hp sound neutral with that 3k peak. IEM's calibrated with Harman curve may sound balanced and natural (Etymotic ER4XR is one of the best In-ears I ever heard), but they don't trigger our ear's pinna resonance, while over-ears do. Well, that's just my opinion. QC issues is a real thing, tho. One earcup in my pair fixated much worse than another, it broke a seal every time I re-positioned hp's on my head. P.S. Sorry for my grammar, not a native speaker, unfortunately.
I agree the 3kHz bump is probably the one blimp on an otherwise excellent mid performance. However, I didn't personally have any problem with it unlike the 361 which is a lot more shouty. I'm only just getting into IEMs but I've heard really good things about the more high end ones. I'm going to try to do more IEM content as I'd like to experience more IEMs myself. Those Etymotic's are out of my current price range though. Thanks for your comment, your English is pretty good, dont worry about it.
Hey I'm a causal listener and gamer. How would these headphones suit me? I'm by no means an audiophile. I'm eyeing these because the cost is really cheap where I live.
Having heard both, I'll give the TL;DR: a bit early. Neither are suited for studio monitoring for mixing. They are, however, well-suited to post-mix review. Neither are flat enough to figure out your mix on without inadvertently mixing down the bass and treble in whatever you're working on. I demoed both of these sets in the store and did quite a bit more extensive listening on the K371 later on. They're interesting, with the K361 having a more pedestrian and friendlier tuning, while the K371 is more... hmm... intense. It has more gain in the treble region, more bass, and in general is less kind to poor recordings. These are definitely headphones that will reveal the tuning of your DAC and amp combo and will tell you when your audio quality is too low. I found them very pleasant to listen to on a Cambridge Audio 2-channel 60W amp's headphone stage, but the V-shaped tuning on that amp really makes them sound a lot more dynamic. Listening on my HiBy R3 Pro Saber goes on to show that, with a more neutral and analytical DAC and amp tuning, you lose a lot of the potential heat from the treble range, the mids become more balanced, and the bass becomes more tame. It's less like you're attending a rave for 1 and more balanced and suited for critical listening. I didn't personally find that there were any songs where it fell flat on its face, but it's not exactly ideal for certain genres like mid-70's to late 80's rock. If you listen to that almost exclusively, then these aren't for you. Try the K361 or a different line altogether. If you like listening to glitch, techno, euro-beat, dubstep, or any other genres that rely on fast-paced beats, lots of bass and lots of treble, then these will be ideal. If you listen to orchestral music, soundtracks, and other traditional instrumentation music, then these are also good for that. I've found that their main crime is one of resolution. They like a lot of it and will not be tamed if the track is poorly mastered, particularly in the midbass. If the midbass is handled poorly then you WILL hear it. It will stand out like a sore thumb and you'll be wondering what in the world is going on. And the problem, and part of the reason why I find it poorly suited to rock from that era, is that a lot of the midbass and even effect pedals into the mids and treble aren't always handled well during recording and mixing and these things WILL find that and tell you all about it. It'll tell you if the musician has gotten too close to their microphone as well. These things have as much detail retrieval in their midbass as other sets have in their treble, and that's incredible. I've not heard anything like it before. They're definitely a challenging headphone and not everyone will love how they sound, but man do you need to find a set to demo. For $130 or so, you'd be hard pressed to find anything as revealing and resolving as those AKG K371. Just be sure to start them off a low volume, because they're more sensitive than you'd expect.
hi, you speak of a reference track entitled, 'broken', at 14:07 into the video. I didn't catch the groups name in the video . Could yo please uprovide it in writing so I can search for it on the net? Also, i appreciate your honesty when performing subsequent reviews of AKG. It seems as if defects have haunted them going all the way back to the 812 (open version) - an exceptional headphone plagued by a common defect that resulted in the loss if a channel.
I like my K361, but it has a massive problem. The plastic headband snapped when I was putting the headphones on my head. Now I have to glue them together (for the 3rd time) and hope they work (again). Also, I opened the folding mechanism and realized the headphone has business surviving being folded because it puts repeated strain on the leads which run through it. These headphones need a revision that addresses the build, and then it will truly be stellar.
thanks for the review. my question is how well do the 361s eq? can I add some body by 2 db on low mids and get a simillar sound? don't these two use the same drivers? could the difference in tone between these two be pads or build? cheers.
Watching this makes me wonder if I got a bad K371. Ordered both the K361 and the K371 off Amazon to compare, and I find the low midrange sounding very scooped out on the K371. Guitars and bass guitars sound very buried in the mix on those headphones. Can barely hear what chords are played. The midrange sound noticeably more present on the pair of K361's I got. Prefer the treble on the K371, though. Seems to have a bit more clarity. Tough choice between the two!
Hey, in my country the k361 is around 85$ whereas the DT 770 80 ohm is around 200$. Do you think it is worth to buy the k361 or should I save up for the DT 770? I am not an audiophile and listin to all kinds of music (mainly rock and metal). However I use headphones nearly 12 hours every day, so comfort is my main priority.
im between these 2, using it for a enjoyable experience of listening to music and as a monitor for guitar in garageband or directly plugged in the amp. I don't really know which of them to choose.
My DT 770 Pro is broken on the sides and the pads are literally destroyed. I really like these headphones, but I didn't hear others for a long time. If I repair them, will cost me almost half of an AKG K371. Would you recommend me to take the leap? I compose/listen orchestral soundtrack music, mixing, video editing... Any suggestions would be welcome! thank you! awesome work :)
I love my DT 770 Pro, and as much as I think the K371 might technically be the better headphone tuning wise, I still love my DT 770. Theres something about its look, build, comfort and sound that just makes it a fantastic headphone. I dont know what I would do in your position. In fact I would probably repair my 770 because its going to last you for years and years and theres still a bit of a grey cloud over the K371 build quality.
Can u plz make a comparison video between Sennheiser hd598sr & Sennheiser hd599sr... thanks a lot for all of ur funtastic content! watching ur reviews is a sheer joy n stress buster!
Excellent! I am really looking forward to see what AKG will do with the K371 BT coming out in march. Will they step up their game from all they have learned from your feedback? I sure hope so. I have for years been using the K845 BT and am hoping for an update. 40h battery life is a much welcome upgrade. Just hope they get it all right and tick all the boxes. Again, thank you so much for the complete rundown on these.
@@brownchair2698 Most BT devices do... Its a pity people flood stores for XM4... In fact OP's comment is kind of funny to me. Like he seriously thought BT could get near the regular one.. Even if you use a fine cable nah...
Which one has the most neutral/flat sound and which one has the best soundstage ? Audio Technica ath m50x , audio Technica ath m40x , Akg k371 or beyerdynamic DT 770 pro ?
Hi hope you have time to respond, I could be in danger of a wall full of entry level headphones. The two closed back headphones I have are the Audeze Mobius and Sony XM4, the Sony I would only use as a travel headphone to be honest. In terms of musicality, lack of graininess and timbre is it worth me getting the 371’s
Here because I'm considering using a gaming headset that's not mainstream claiming they have premium sound quality but I'm looking for something that has a mic and for something wireless any help?..
Thank u , All my Headphones are Open back , I have tried many Closed back and all of them didnt have Body like HD660s . I will buy K371 and listen what happens .
Hey man I've recently bought the dt 770 pro 80 ohm version but I returned it since it was too bright for my liking. I'm contemplating weather I should buy the k371 or k361. I like the k361 better since it's lighter, additionally there's a significant price gap between the two. But I prefer the sound of the k371. I was wondering if I can get the k361 to sound anything like the k371 with some proper EQ. PS. I'm planning on using these as outdoor music headphones not monitoring headphones, I mostly listen to poorly recorded jazz. I want decent clarity in treble without it sounding harsh or sibilant(the vmoda m100 crossfade did a great job at this though I found the midrange on that headphone to be too recessed). Hope you can help me out with this man.
Hi Wheezy, I don't know if this question have been already asked to you, but do you test headphones with and WITHOUT your glasses ? (glasses's branch can result in the lost of the sealing, and alter the bass response) (sorry if my english is not top notch, it's my mother tongue)
Which one is better I am in confusion to purchase. Can u suggest me. I want for music production. So, could you suggest me which one is better for music production and recording session s in this two headphones. Please tell me.
I haven't heard the reviewed headphones yet, but I just returned my DT-770 Pro (250 Ohm) because I found them sharp and sibilant on acoustic music which is my benchmark for headphones. If AC, piano and vocals don't sound right, I'm not interested. I purchased them because of several rave reviews, and I suppose that they must work for somebody, but they just don't work for me,
@@mikelisteral7863 not at all. There's a bit of a bump in the lower frequencies, but it doesn't fauck things up. The midrange is great and the highs are not boosted all that much. Works for me, anyways. For serious mixing and monitoring I use K702's, which are flatter. I use the 371 for playback on other devices, since they're so easy to drive, and I use them as my closed back headphone for recording vocals and acoustic guitar tracks. Everyone seems to like them.
@@worldgonewrong2049 i might buy the 361. i think the 371 will have too much bass. but i worrry the 361 might not have enough. too much low frequency gives me a headache. so im safer trying the 361. i have some audio technicas coming and if i sell those ill order the 361
@ i have a pair of audio technica sr50 coming soon. i think they are gonna have too much bass. if so im gonna sell them and order the akg 361. so those might be arriving in about 3 weeks. then ill test them out and see how much bass they have. im looking for a neutral sound
I wonder how this compares to 32ohm dt 770. Both are 32ohm closed backs with pleather pads and should work well with weak sources. Not many headphones like that I can think of. Maybe takstar pro82 and cal. By description it sounds like both have the best bass and subbass out of all sub 200usd closed headphones
Thats another good call, I do have a 250 Ohm and apparently the 32 has a very similar sound sig to the 250, I know that the 80 is a bit different tho. I love my DT 770, I would take it over the K361 for casual use because I find them a more enjoyable headphone. However I would probably take the 361 for more critical or monitoring uses as its a little more neutral.
@@HiCZoK Yeah they certainly can be. Both the K361 and the 770 can be. Overall I find the 770 more enjoyable tho. They are better for movies and video games, I wont listen to music on them without EQ tho.
@wheezy Tech , help me out here as I don’t have much well any experience with passive closed back headphones. So compared to say Sony XM4 EQ’d to remove some of the bass bloat, what is the sound quality of these in comparison. I see they also do a BT version of both that can still be driven passive
Very nice video my friend..i watched it all and in the end you mention about the difference between k361 and the beyerdynamic dt 770 250 ohm..these two pairs im thinking to buy but your advice could help me cause i want to buy the k371..Between dt770 250ohm and k361 which is better? and why? thanks!
It really depends on what you are looking for from a headphone. I find the DT 770 Pro a really enjoyable headphone to listen to, it can be quite bright, it does have a few big peaks in the treble. However its got a good bass performance and overall sound signature is much warmer than the K361 which as I said is a bit hollow and sterile sounding. However I'd say the K361 is flatter or more neutral than the 770, I would choose the K361 over the DT 770 Pro for any analytical work, such as when I'm video editing. Since I got a replacement K371 however, I havent used my DT 770 Pro or my K361. The 371 is basically close to perfect for my tastes for both the video editing and more enjoyable listening such as movies music and video games. I really like the DT 770 Pro, its a fantastic headphone and its very well built. But the K371 I think is technically the better headphone on sound.
@@WheezyTech I dont want to warm headphones i just want to feel the rhythm and listen clearly the backing track when i record my vocals..not like senheizer hd380 that doesnt sound natural.. not like beayerdynami dt770 80 ohm that doesnt have presense in the vocals..but like audio technica ath990z but not so 3d fun headphones..but with a nice wide imaging. i heared in another video that compares the k361 and k371 and i think the k361 sounds more normal right?
I don't think ther K361 sounds more normal, to me the K371 is more netural, more like an HD650. In fact thats a good way of describing them, like an HD650 in mids and treble with slightly more bass. The 361 is a bit too cold and shouty for my tastes. However as the K361 is very forwards in the upper mids and as you want them for tracking vocals, they might put your monitoring a bit more forwards for you. I dunno if thats what you need, if it is then they might be a good choice.
Hmm thats a difficult one, I've never found a good EQ app for mac. Sonarworks is ok but you can only choose from pre defined EQ's for supported headphones. There is an app called eqMac2 that seems ok but if you want a good parametric EQ like Equalizer APO there isnt a good alternative on Mac. There is Rogue Amoeba Soundsource which allows you to host AU or VST plugins for systemwide EQ. But from memory you have to add an individual parametric EQ AU plugin per band and theres no way to create profiles for different headphones which makes it a bit of a pain. That might have changed now. Maybe I'll make a video about this at some point.
Rolands Briedis You’ve probably found what you need by now, but I’ve had great luck with Boom for Mac. It allows presets and can be fine-tuned in 31-band mode. Most of the effects are just gimmicks, but the Fidelity effect magically makes a lot of muddy headphones/IEMs/speakers sound light-years better. And it’s on sale right now for $12.
@@WheezyTech Cheers mate, really appreciate it, I was looking for something bigger than the normal head-shaped stands, I guess I'm starting to have too many headphones if there is such a thing.
No. They're good for reviewing it after mixing, but you'll end up tuning down the treble and bass quite a lot if you mix with these. The K361 might be marginally better about it, but neither of these are particularly well suited to mixing. You'll want something a bit flatter than either of these for that purpose.
Tuve la oportunidad de escuchar ambos audífonos y no fue difícil decidirse pro el K371. Supongo que si no es cuestión de una necesidad concreta entonces es cuestión de gustos.
I don't plan on doing any sound demos as they are far too dependant on and affected by the playback system. Also YT compression will negatively affect any sound demo making the demo largely flawed. Whilst there is an argument that sound demos could be useful if the recording rig never changes and the listeners system never changes there can be simple comprisons made with demos made on the same rig. Much in the same way as MiniDSP measurements (Not accurate but useful for comparative purposes). There is however no accepted way to do sound demos or rigs designed for this purpose. The MiniDSP EARS for example is not designed for this and would impart too much colour on the recording. I am intrigued by Oluv's work on this using binaural ear mounted microphones, maybe there is potential for this in the future. But for now I do not feel sound demos are particularly useful as there are far too many variables. If there was a good way to do this whilst reducing the variables then I would consider it.
I just don't get it, I've tried these, they are slow; returned. I've got the DT 1990 Pro's, too harsh and confused - and the bass distorts quickly. Man I've got so many headphones. The best, Yamaha HPH MT5. I keep saying this and none of you guys have reviewed them!! Ok they are not without fault, most headphones have more than 50% sonic faults to my ears, the MT5's have maybe 10% sonic faults, I've never heard better and they match my monitor speakers (for studio mixing and mastering use) as close as damn it. Anyway just saying, this will fall on deaf ears again I expect. Please try the Yamaha HPH MT5's (not the MT8's!), and then tell Z and Metal.
I watch Z reviews, he says, Yamaha HPH MT5's and ATM-M40x are quite close sounding on par though and ATH-40x are also quite "colored". SO how sure are you that HPH MT5's are good for "mixing and mastering " ?
@@8CJ1 I've tried many many studio headphones, and the MT5's are the closest to my Neumann KH120 monitoring speakers. Most other headphones are either too slow and confused, soggy and distort in the bass, or most are hyped in the highs. Most headphone reviewers have developed a taste for hyped highs, even if they don't like sibilant highs, they still lean too far to the highs. Freq response graphs don't reveal the speed of a headphone driver or the clarity of separating many simultaneous frequencies - the MT5's shine here, everything tightly defined yet not fatiguing at all. They are the best I've come across, they are not perfect, slightly dark, but are 95% close to my monitor speakers, while most other studio headphones are way off, ok for hiss inspection etc, but not for a realistic and accurate depiction. BTW I've now bought 3 pairs of MT5's for different locations, my DT1990 Pro's hardly get used, my HPH MT8's never used, ATH A990Z sometimes (interesting headphone but just a bit too slow), etc, I could go on. Maybe read some reviews of the MT5's.
@@juliansimmons7700 Well. It's difficult to decide because not all " Studio Monitors " speakers sound the same and have the same FR. I think this is leaning towards those most common studio monitors use in the industry such as Yamaha HS5, JBL LSR series, Adams.. etc maybe? Base on "home/bedroom" studios perhaps? Also, are you saying that m40x and HPH are better?
@@8CJ1 The HS5 are based on an outdated design and of the range they are extremely small and very limited, not that good at all. Even the larger HS7's are no match for the Neumann KH120's depth and accuracy. 'In the day' Yamaha monitors were a world away from fruity hi-fi speakers of the time, they were ultra flat and grey, too flat and grey, though you can get used to them. JBL & Adams are enthusiast monitor speakers, I don't mean to unsettle those who like them, but they are not professional studio monitors. Genelec, Neumann, Dynaudio and Focal speakers are the ones you need to hear - if you are a professional engineer. They all have different characteristics, but are close, and are professional tools. The HPH MT5's headphones despite what Yamaha says, are better then their HS etc monitors (which Yamaha say they are based on). You will go round in circles reading reviews. If you are a professional you'll know what to buy and what you need to hear. If you are an enthusiast you can still listen to professional engineers current recommendations (i.e. not those of 30 years ago - so exclude the old Yamaha monitors), or you can go round in endless circles reading and buying the 'have-a-go' brands. Hope this all helps, I've said as much as I can.
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For clarity: Differences in any specific area of the frequency response for both of these headphones Sub/Low Bass, Low Mids, Upper Mids, Treble are quite small and don't make too much difference by themselves (they sound similar to each other). However, in combination they do seem to result in a fairly large difference in overall sound signature.
This review is just this one RUclipsrs opinion. And in this RUclipsrs opinion, the Harman target is the definition of "Neutral" when it comes to a headphones FR.
Measurements shown are done using the MiniDSP EARS rig (Not industry standard). The compensation curve being used is the HEQ compensation. This is based off of the Harman curve rather than Diffuse Field. Any headphone that measures correct to the Harman curve should show as flat on this graph. This does not hide any aspect of the FR it presents the info in a different way that is more relevant to the target curve being used.
This video was not scripted and thus was a little rambling in places. Opinions were formed by listening tests using reference tracks. FR charts are shown only as a tool to help explain opinions based on listening tests.
Opinions stated in this "VS" review are comparative to these two headphones only. For full comparative opinions against other headphones please see the respective full reviews for each headphone.
Why arent you using your old intro
The blue intro vid? I changed that a little while ago when I settled on the 'wheezy reviews' channel name.
@@WheezyTech no the welcome to my little corner
Ahh yeah I kinda just stopped using that, wasn't really a conscious choice
@@WheezyTech i liked it
Quadruple camera guy for audio reviews is born
Also for some reason the 361 specs now say titanium coated as well, and I don't remember seeing that initially. So probably just different or cheaper damping
Edit: just got my K361 today and can confirm this review is accurate.
I'm not going to try and slap any bass tho :p
So I guess they are the same driver then
CRP of audio
Odd. So essentially they are the same product with cosmetic differences. Anything else that justifies the large price difference of over 50% ?
@@theinnocent_one Its more than cosmetic differences, unless adding metal and rubber parts to the headband are purely cosmetic to you. The 371 also has a different connector which is much better. The driver *might* be the same but theres clearly differences in internal cup construction or dampening that leads to them sounding different. I think I made a good case fo the 371 being a better headphone but ultimately its up to you if you think its worth it.
@@WheezyTech what is the response of the cheaper one to EQ ? If the drivers are the same, they can possibly put up with minor changes in response to sound like one another using EQ ? I know that the minor difference in FR is probably due to internal cup design and damping, but driver excursion would probably within tolerances ?
Great job. Great review. Thanks! Good luck and development of the channel!
Thanks for your comment
I agree with your comment about sub bass.
The main sound of the bass in most music happens between 40hz - 50hz to 250 Hz.
When you get down to 20hz. to 40hz. It's not really noticeable on most music, except on certain tracks boosted down there at the bottom of the frequency range.
Good take. And agreed. K371 preferred. I can definitely hear the deeper extension, and the slight mid dip. K361 sounds blurry and weak by comparison.
give us a recommendation list under $150 :)
I'm gonna call that 2k bump in the 361 as what makes it sound hollow. Great review, thank you!
DMS' review came out yesterday and he was also concerned with quality control across the board, he even showed its flaws.
Have to say that I got them and so far so good.
Dms' review is pretty bad imo.
Great hp reviews, keep it up!
I auditioned K371 some time ago and found it way too shouty. They are pretty good cans overall, with great subbass rumble, while not being muddy, and linear mids (except 3k region). But that upper-mid shoutiness is pretty disturbing, I just cannot understand how can over-ear hp sound neutral with that 3k peak. IEM's calibrated with Harman curve may sound balanced and natural (Etymotic ER4XR is one of the best In-ears I ever heard), but they don't trigger our ear's pinna resonance, while over-ears do. Well, that's just my opinion.
QC issues is a real thing, tho. One earcup in my pair fixated much worse than another, it broke a seal every time I re-positioned hp's on my head.
P.S. Sorry for my grammar, not a native speaker, unfortunately.
I agree the 3kHz bump is probably the one blimp on an otherwise excellent mid performance. However, I didn't personally have any problem with it unlike the 361 which is a lot more shouty.
I'm only just getting into IEMs but I've heard really good things about the more high end ones. I'm going to try to do more IEM content as I'd like to experience more IEMs myself. Those Etymotic's are out of my current price range though.
Thanks for your comment, your English is pretty good, dont worry about it.
Hey I'm a causal listener and gamer. How would these headphones suit me? I'm by no means an audiophile. I'm eyeing these because the cost is really cheap where I live.
I think closed headphones benefit from that recession in the mids, it always sounds most natural to me. I dont like too warm sound.
But most acoustic devices are tuned closer to 361 with recessed mids and booster heighs. So 361 is good for monitoring with a bit of shit-control.
Having heard both, I'll give the TL;DR: a bit early. Neither are suited for studio monitoring for mixing. They are, however, well-suited to post-mix review. Neither are flat enough to figure out your mix on without inadvertently mixing down the bass and treble in whatever you're working on.
I demoed both of these sets in the store and did quite a bit more extensive listening on the K371 later on. They're interesting, with the K361 having a more pedestrian and friendlier tuning, while the K371 is more... hmm... intense. It has more gain in the treble region, more bass, and in general is less kind to poor recordings. These are definitely headphones that will reveal the tuning of your DAC and amp combo and will tell you when your audio quality is too low. I found them very pleasant to listen to on a Cambridge Audio 2-channel 60W amp's headphone stage, but the V-shaped tuning on that amp really makes them sound a lot more dynamic. Listening on my HiBy R3 Pro Saber goes on to show that, with a more neutral and analytical DAC and amp tuning, you lose a lot of the potential heat from the treble range, the mids become more balanced, and the bass becomes more tame. It's less like you're attending a rave for 1 and more balanced and suited for critical listening. I didn't personally find that there were any songs where it fell flat on its face, but it's not exactly ideal for certain genres like mid-70's to late 80's rock. If you listen to that almost exclusively, then these aren't for you. Try the K361 or a different line altogether. If you like listening to glitch, techno, euro-beat, dubstep, or any other genres that rely on fast-paced beats, lots of bass and lots of treble, then these will be ideal. If you listen to orchestral music, soundtracks, and other traditional instrumentation music, then these are also good for that. I've found that their main crime is one of resolution. They like a lot of it and will not be tamed if the track is poorly mastered, particularly in the midbass. If the midbass is handled poorly then you WILL hear it. It will stand out like a sore thumb and you'll be wondering what in the world is going on. And the problem, and part of the reason why I find it poorly suited to rock from that era, is that a lot of the midbass and even effect pedals into the mids and treble aren't always handled well during recording and mixing and these things WILL find that and tell you all about it. It'll tell you if the musician has gotten too close to their microphone as well. These things have as much detail retrieval in their midbass as other sets have in their treble, and that's incredible. I've not heard anything like it before.
They're definitely a challenging headphone and not everyone will love how they sound, but man do you need to find a set to demo. For $130 or so, you'd be hard pressed to find anything as revealing and resolving as those AKG K371. Just be sure to start them off a low volume, because they're more sensitive than you'd expect.
hi, you speak of a reference track entitled, 'broken', at 14:07 into the video. I didn't catch the groups name in the video . Could yo please uprovide it in writing so I can search for it on the net? Also, i appreciate your honesty when performing subsequent reviews of AKG. It seems as if defects have haunted them going all the way back to the 812 (open version) - an exceptional headphone plagued by a common defect that resulted in the loss if a channel.
Compare DT770 and K371, which one provide a larger soundstage?
beyer, all the way. I think it is technically superior, but the tonality is worse and needs EQ
I like my K361, but it has a massive problem. The plastic headband snapped when I was putting the headphones on my head. Now I have to glue them together (for the 3rd time) and hope they work (again). Also, I opened the folding mechanism and realized the headphone has business surviving being folded because it puts repeated strain on the leads which run through it.
These headphones need a revision that addresses the build, and then it will truly be stellar.
Cofffee is always most important
thanks for the review. my question is how well do the 361s eq? can I add some body by 2 db on low mids and get a simillar sound? don't these two use the same drivers? could the difference in tone between these two be pads or build? cheers.
Watching this makes me wonder if I got a bad K371. Ordered both the K361 and the K371 off Amazon to compare, and I find the low midrange sounding very scooped out on the K371. Guitars and bass guitars sound very buried in the mix on those headphones. Can barely hear what chords are played. The midrange sound noticeably more present on the pair of K361's I got. Prefer the treble on the K371, though. Seems to have a bit more clarity. Tough choice between the two!
What is better for mixing and mastering k361 or ath m40x ? Im stuck between these two!
Did you figure it out?
Getting a pair of K371s today. You put me over the fence.
Hey, in my country the k361 is around 85$ whereas the DT 770 80 ohm is around 200$. Do you think it is worth to buy the k361 or should I save up for the DT 770? I am not an audiophile and listin to all kinds of music (mainly rock and metal). However I use headphones nearly 12 hours every day, so comfort is my main priority.
dt 770 sucks balls. I doubt their sound fits your needs.
What did you get
And what is your verdict DT 770 vs 371? For video editing sound control?
The T4s look amazing and sound amazing ;)
im between these 2, using it for a enjoyable experience of listening to music and as a monitor for guitar in garageband or directly plugged in the amp. I don't really know which of them to choose.
did you make a decision with this?
@@aheadachewithpictures yes, i choose the k371, no regret at all
My DT 770 Pro is broken on the sides and the pads are literally destroyed. I really like these headphones, but I didn't hear others for a long time. If I repair them, will cost me almost half of an AKG K371. Would you recommend me to take the leap? I compose/listen orchestral soundtrack music, mixing, video editing... Any suggestions would be welcome! thank you! awesome work :)
I love my DT 770 Pro, and as much as I think the K371 might technically be the better headphone tuning wise, I still love my DT 770. Theres something about its look, build, comfort and sound that just makes it a fantastic headphone. I dont know what I would do in your position. In fact I would probably repair my 770 because its going to last you for years and years and theres still a bit of a grey cloud over the K371 build quality.
Just got some K371s. Selling my DT 770 Studio.
Can u plz make a comparison video between Sennheiser hd598sr & Sennheiser hd599sr...
thanks a lot for all of ur funtastic content! watching ur reviews is a sheer joy n stress buster!
Excellent! I am really looking forward to see what AKG will do with the K371 BT coming out in march. Will they step up their game from all they have learned from your feedback? I sure hope so. I have for years been using the K845 BT and am hoping for an update. 40h battery life is a much welcome upgrade. Just hope they get it all right and tick all the boxes. Again, thank you so much for the complete rundown on these.
The Bluetooth version has bass bloat
@@brownchair2698 Most BT devices do... Its a pity people flood stores for XM4... In fact OP's comment is kind of funny to me. Like he seriously thought BT could get near the regular one.. Even if you use a fine cable nah...
@@ardaarsen Don't get me wrong. It still isn't xm4 bad.
Great review and camera work. One question, how does the K371 compare to the HD280PRO from Sennhesier?
K371s are better in terms of sound. I've heard some people say the 280s are quite tight on the head.
Good camera work.
Thanks, I was trying this out for this video. My other cameras are not as good as the main one tho.
The k361 is more what I prefer... More neutral and balanced.
@wheezy teck what is that rock group sleet akin it sounds like album broken can't see it anywhere
Which one has the most neutral/flat sound and which one has the best soundstage ? Audio Technica ath m50x , audio Technica ath m40x , Akg k371 or beyerdynamic DT 770 pro ?
Soundstage dt770
Flat m40x
Harman curve 371
Hi hope you have time to respond, I could be in danger of a wall full of entry level headphones. The two closed back headphones I have are the Audeze Mobius and Sony XM4, the Sony I would only use as a travel headphone to be honest. In terms of musicality, lack of graininess and timbre is it worth me getting the 371’s
What's better to listen instumental/folk/country songs? thanks :D
is the difference between the headphones more than worth the 50% price jump?
Fellow Deadmau5 fan, instant sub
Here because I'm considering using a gaming headset that's not mainstream claiming they have premium sound quality but I'm looking for something that has a mic and for something wireless any help?..
Seems like the only reason for me to choose k371 is the mini-xlr termination..
Which one is suitable for listening to music, studying piano (digital) and recording? I like it with a little more bass character and light treble.
I want to buy these, but I don't want to get build quality problems after the warranty has expired.
Which is better?
Thank u , All my Headphones are Open back , I have tried many Closed back and all of them didnt have Body like HD660s . I will buy K371 and listen what happens .
Hey man I've recently bought the dt 770 pro 80 ohm version but I returned it since it was too bright for my liking. I'm contemplating weather I should buy the k371 or k361. I like the k361 better since it's lighter, additionally there's a significant price gap between the two. But I prefer the sound of the k371.
I was wondering if I can get the k361 to sound anything like the k371 with some proper EQ.
PS. I'm planning on using these as outdoor music headphones not monitoring headphones, I mostly listen to poorly recorded jazz. I want decent clarity in treble without it sounding harsh or sibilant(the vmoda m100 crossfade did a great job at this though I found the midrange on that headphone to be too recessed). Hope you can help me out with this man.
What'd you get and how'd you like it? I'm going through a similar situation rn
can you compare 361 371 with audio technica MSR7B?
Hi Wheezy, I don't know if this question have been already asked to you, but do you test headphones with and WITHOUT your glasses ? (glasses's branch can result in the lost of the sealing, and alter the bass response)
(sorry if my english is not top notch, it's my mother tongue)
Which one is better
I am in confusion to purchase.
Can u suggest me.
I want for music production.
So, could you suggest me which one is better for music production and recording session s in this two headphones.
Please tell me.
Buy all very good thank you
I haven't heard the reviewed headphones yet, but I just returned my DT-770 Pro (250 Ohm) because I found them sharp and sibilant on acoustic music which is my benchmark for headphones. If AC, piano and vocals don't sound right, I'm not interested. I purchased them because of several rave reviews, and I suppose that they must work for somebody, but they just don't work for me,
I've used both and kept the 371's! I think they just sound better for my listening.
are they bass heavy like the dre beats?
@@mikelisteral7863 not at all. There's a bit of a bump in the lower frequencies, but it doesn't fauck things up. The midrange is great and the highs are not boosted all that much. Works for me, anyways. For serious mixing and monitoring I use K702's, which are flatter. I use the 371 for playback on other devices, since they're so easy to drive, and I use them as my closed back headphone for recording vocals and acoustic guitar tracks. Everyone seems to like them.
@@worldgonewrong2049 i might buy the 361. i think the 371 will have too much bass. but i worrry the 361 might not have enough. too much low frequency gives me a headache. so im safer trying the 361. i have some audio technicas coming and if i sell those ill order the 361
@ i have a pair of audio technica sr50 coming soon. i think they are gonna have too much bass. if so im gonna sell them and order the akg 361. so those might be arriving in about 3 weeks. then ill test them out and see how much bass they have. im looking for a neutral sound
Great mouse choice 👍
I wonder how this compares to 32ohm dt 770. Both are 32ohm closed backs with pleather pads and should work well with weak sources. Not many headphones like that I can think of. Maybe takstar pro82 and cal. By description it sounds like both have the best bass and subbass out of all sub 200usd closed headphones
Thats another good call, I do have a 250 Ohm and apparently the 32 has a very similar sound sig to the 250, I know that the 80 is a bit different tho. I love my DT 770, I would take it over the K361 for casual use because I find them a more enjoyable headphone. However I would probably take the 361 for more critical or monitoring uses as its a little more neutral.
@@WheezyTech can the dt770 be tiresome with treble on some tracks ?
@@HiCZoK Yeah they certainly can be. Both the K361 and the 770 can be. Overall I find the 770 more enjoyable tho. They are better for movies and video games, I wont listen to music on them without EQ tho.
What about AKG K182? Have you ever used it?? Is it good?
I had the 71 but the vocals sounds very recessed
@wheezy Tech , help me out here as I don’t have much well any experience with passive closed back headphones. So compared to say Sony XM4 EQ’d to remove some of the bass bloat, what is the sound quality of these in comparison. I see they also do a BT version of both that can still be driven passive
Very nice video my friend..i watched it all and in the end you mention about the difference between k361 and the beyerdynamic dt 770 250 ohm..these two pairs im thinking to buy but your advice could help me cause i want to buy the k371..Between dt770 250ohm and k361 which is better? and why? thanks!
It really depends on what you are looking for from a headphone. I find the DT 770 Pro a really enjoyable headphone to listen to, it can be quite bright, it does have a few big peaks in the treble. However its got a good bass performance and overall sound signature is much warmer than the K361 which as I said is a bit hollow and sterile sounding. However I'd say the K361 is flatter or more neutral than the 770, I would choose the K361 over the DT 770 Pro for any analytical work, such as when I'm video editing. Since I got a replacement K371 however, I havent used my DT 770 Pro or my K361. The 371 is basically close to perfect for my tastes for both the video editing and more enjoyable listening such as movies music and video games. I really like the DT 770 Pro, its a fantastic headphone and its very well built. But the K371 I think is technically the better headphone on sound.
@@WheezyTech I dont want to warm headphones i just want to feel the rhythm and listen clearly the backing track when i record my vocals..not like senheizer hd380 that doesnt sound natural.. not like beayerdynami dt770 80 ohm that doesnt have presense in the vocals..but like audio technica ath990z but not so 3d fun headphones..but with a nice wide imaging. i heared in another video that compares the k361 and k371 and i think the k361 sounds more normal right?
I don't think ther K361 sounds more normal, to me the K371 is more netural, more like an HD650. In fact thats a good way of describing them, like an HD650 in mids and treble with slightly more bass. The 361 is a bit too cold and shouty for my tastes. However as the K361 is very forwards in the upper mids and as you want them for tracking vocals, they might put your monitoring a bit more forwards for you. I dunno if thats what you need, if it is then they might be a good choice.
@@WheezyTech thank you so much for your professional reply!!
k375 vs k376 (cheaper) vs samsung galaxy buds+.......plssssssss.........(earphones)
Bro will it work with bt wireless connectivity to my laptop???
@Wheezy Reviews Do you know how these compare to the 550/553?
could You give a link to EQ app for MAC,? I have never done any EQ for my headphones, so I would appreciate this. Thanks!
Hmm thats a difficult one, I've never found a good EQ app for mac. Sonarworks is ok but you can only choose from pre defined EQ's for supported headphones. There is an app called eqMac2 that seems ok but if you want a good parametric EQ like Equalizer APO there isnt a good alternative on Mac. There is Rogue Amoeba Soundsource which allows you to host AU or VST plugins for systemwide EQ. But from memory you have to add an individual parametric EQ AU plugin per band and theres no way to create profiles for different headphones which makes it a bit of a pain. That might have changed now. Maybe I'll make a video about this at some point.
@@WheezyTech So much thanks for the review! I Can't wait for deeper video about this issue. I think it is pretty actual for MAC users.
Rolands Briedis You’ve probably found what you need by now, but I’ve had great luck with Boom for Mac. It allows presets and can be fine-tuned in 31-band mode. Most of the effects are just gimmicks, but the Fidelity effect magically makes a lot of muddy headphones/IEMs/speakers sound light-years better. And it’s on sale right now for $12.
What are those rectangular "stands" you're using to store your headphones ? Can they be bought from somewhere?
Yeah they are basic foam yoga blocks, I put a link in the description
@@WheezyTech Cheers mate, really appreciate it, I was looking for something bigger than the normal head-shaped stands, I guess I'm starting to have too many headphones if there is such a thing.
Hello ! Which of these should i get for guitar practice, mostly overdriven tone, k361 or k371 ?
Did you chose a guitar practice headphone yet? Cheers
Do you think any of these would be adequate for mixing music?
No. They're good for reviewing it after mixing, but you'll end up tuning down the treble and bass quite a lot if you mix with these. The K361 might be marginally better about it, but neither of these are particularly well suited to mixing. You'll want something a bit flatter than either of these for that purpose.
for me both had too much pressure wearing them, after about 15 min my neck and ears hurt af. although I really liked the sound
Great!
Tuve la oportunidad de escuchar ambos audífonos y no fue difícil decidirse pro el K371. Supongo que si no es cuestión de una necesidad concreta entonces es cuestión de gustos.
Wheres the sound demo?
I don't plan on doing any sound demos as they are far too dependant on and affected by the playback system. Also YT compression will negatively affect any sound demo making the demo largely flawed.
Whilst there is an argument that sound demos could be useful if the recording rig never changes and the listeners system never changes there can be simple comprisons made with demos made on the same rig. Much in the same way as MiniDSP measurements (Not accurate but useful for comparative purposes). There is however no accepted way to do sound demos or rigs designed for this purpose. The MiniDSP EARS for example is not designed for this and would impart too much colour on the recording.
I am intrigued by Oluv's work on this using binaural ear mounted microphones, maybe there is potential for this in the future. But for now I do not feel sound demos are particularly useful as there are far too many variables. If there was a good way to do this whilst reducing the variables then I would consider it.
@@WheezyTech Thanks for the answer!
I just don't get it, I've tried these, they are slow; returned. I've got the DT 1990 Pro's, too harsh and confused - and the bass distorts quickly. Man I've got so many headphones. The best, Yamaha HPH MT5. I keep saying this and none of you guys have reviewed them!! Ok they are not without fault, most headphones have more than 50% sonic faults to my ears, the MT5's have maybe 10% sonic faults, I've never heard better and they match my monitor speakers (for studio mixing and mastering use) as close as damn it. Anyway just saying, this will fall on deaf ears again I expect. Please try the Yamaha HPH MT5's (not the MT8's!), and then tell Z and Metal.
Should love to know which is best between these and mt5?
I watch Z reviews, he says, Yamaha HPH MT5's and ATM-M40x are quite close sounding on par though and ATH-40x are also quite "colored". SO how sure are you that HPH MT5's are good for "mixing and mastering " ?
@@8CJ1 I've tried many many studio headphones, and the MT5's are the closest to my Neumann KH120 monitoring speakers. Most other headphones are either too slow and confused, soggy and distort in the bass, or most are hyped in the highs. Most headphone reviewers have developed a taste for hyped highs, even if they don't like sibilant highs, they still lean too far to the highs. Freq response graphs don't reveal the speed of a headphone driver or the clarity of separating many simultaneous frequencies - the MT5's shine here, everything tightly defined yet not fatiguing at all. They are the best I've come across, they are not perfect, slightly dark, but are 95% close to my monitor speakers, while most other studio headphones are way off, ok for hiss inspection etc, but not for a realistic and accurate depiction. BTW I've now bought 3 pairs of MT5's for different locations, my DT1990 Pro's hardly get used, my HPH MT8's never used, ATH A990Z sometimes (interesting headphone but just a bit too slow), etc, I could go on. Maybe read some reviews of the MT5's.
@@juliansimmons7700 Well. It's difficult to decide because not all " Studio Monitors " speakers sound the same and have the same FR. I think this is leaning towards those most common studio monitors use in the industry such as Yamaha HS5, JBL LSR series, Adams.. etc maybe? Base on "home/bedroom" studios perhaps? Also, are you saying that m40x and HPH are better?
@@8CJ1 The HS5 are based on an outdated design and of the range they are extremely small and very limited, not that good at all. Even the larger HS7's are no match for the Neumann KH120's depth and accuracy. 'In the day' Yamaha monitors were a world away from fruity hi-fi speakers of the time, they were ultra flat and grey, too flat and grey, though you can get used to them. JBL & Adams are enthusiast monitor speakers, I don't mean to unsettle those who like them, but they are not professional studio monitors. Genelec, Neumann, Dynaudio and Focal speakers are the ones you need to hear - if you are a professional engineer. They all have different characteristics, but are close, and are professional tools. The HPH MT5's headphones despite what Yamaha says, are better then their HS etc monitors (which Yamaha say they are based on). You will go round in circles reading reviews. If you are a professional you'll know what to buy and what you need to hear. If you are an enthusiast you can still listen to professional engineers current recommendations (i.e. not those of 30 years ago - so exclude the old Yamaha monitors), or you can go round in endless circles reading and buying the 'have-a-go' brands. Hope this all helps, I've said as much as I can.
the trust in that brand is gone they cant sell junk for 200$ which is huge waste of money
Yes 371 sounds muddy. 361 is more like harman curve. Stereo imaging is much better in 361. Also too much sibilance between 6 to 8 khz in 371.
371 is bass heavy like dre beats?
are these made in china?