What a 19-Hour Nonstop Flight Can Teach Us About Jet Lag | WSJ
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Qantas just completed a record-breaking 19-hour, 16-minute nonstop flight from New York to Sydney. It’s one of three research flights to determine if the routes can be made commercial and--researchers hope--teach us how to avoid the dreaded jet lag.
Photo: James D. Morgan/Qantas
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The worst part about these long haul flights is knowing you have to do it again to go home. 😭
That’s no problem if you’re in business, but most people are in economy.
No, i mean you can do it in legs
I dunno, but for me going back feels shorter..or maybe just my imagination
I've flown HKG - DFW on economy. Return flight does seem shorter for me. That was before. Now, I make sure I have a layover somewhere.
nardo pangaribuan if you’re traveling west to East, the flight would be shorter because you are flying with the wind. When you fly East to west, you’re flying against the wind
What about having economy travelers in the research aa well?
There are no economy class in ulh flights
Good one.
No one cares about cattle class.
Strap them in and feed them their gruel
Noone cares about the cattle.
@@JD.Knight Says the heifer.
Imagine economy class, full of people, doing yoga for 6hrs. Yeah, right.
It all helps to relax those sphincters! Economy class air just became chewable instead of breathable.
Sounava Ghosh it probably won’t have an economy class like that of other planes... it would be like how Singapore airlines have for their route from Singapore to Newark, just business class and premium economy
Marketing gimmicks. That’s all I could say.
@@lianseldou Yeah what a waste of time and jet fuel
@@davebrown6552 Economy class has been getting worse not better. Airlines try an add more seats continuously
LONDON TO SYDNEY! You can do it, guys!
What would Claustrophobic do in this situation?? 19 hours in a tube space about that long..?? I can only imagine... 😞😞😞
do flat earthers also experience jet-lag?
this ain't jubilee lol
They don’t fly cuz it’s...impossible. LOL
The earth is flat. The moon is a giant projection. The sun is just part of our simulation.
firepowergamerxd troll
No but we do suffer from some youtube comment smartasses;)
Well If you fly bussines jetlag is last of your concerns mate.
M a t e
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It may be useful for business travelers, maybe specially useful. Assuming this is not an ad for Qantas or anything, and realizing I don’t know how the other passengers felt, the reporter said he felt pretty good after a long flight. If they can ultimately find useful information from these tests, they can definitely apply whatever findings they do on how to deal with such extreme jet lags to business travelers who have a tight schedule or a meeting right after landing for some reason. Also Qantas is testing on 6 frequent fliers, and these don’t tend to be your average Joe.
mad true, I got upgraded to buesness this summer coming back from Europe to New York on Swiss, I swear I felt more comfortbale there then on a real bed just laying down doing whatever you want
Elion Kilos too bad I’m too broke to afford it
When he lands in Australia: Wait what do I do now that the video is over?
Flies back to the US...
Edit: OMG thanks for so many likes lol
We’re expecting you back in your cubicle by 8:00 am.
Me: "Yay....I did it!!" 😊
Announcer: "..now boarding Quantas flight to JFK..."
😩
Lol
nah bro he just fell off the earth
...in economy.
Should have stayed in economy class like 90% of the flight passengers...
And all sat next to each other so they couldn't spread out
I believe they don’t offer economy class tickets on this type of flights. Premium Economy is the cheapest they offer
dude this was a research flight
There were only 40 people on the flight, all in business. I don’t think I recall a straight answer about how the flight would go fully laden, be interesting if they have to incorporate glide time on more than just the descent.
Looks like you don't understand much!
lol try 19 hours in economy like the rest of us mortals
They didn't plan to offer any Economy class ticket. That's why that research is not conducted.
Financial These long distance sunrise flights will not be economy flights !!! DUUUUUHH!!!!!
The only thing it’ll teach you is jetlag is not a problem when you have money to fly Business or 1st class
Racing Games Casual Gameplays it definitely still is lol.
Racing These sunshine flights will NOT be economy flights !!!
It is buddy. I know people that had fly between Europe, the US and Asia and it can be rough. They all have their ways of dealing with jet lag.
Enjoy your premium food and leg space up in business class ... while the rest of us are stuck in economy with no leg room basic food and screaming kids . Big difference pal
yeah they act like it’s all surprising that they arent tired but they are all in business class... anyone could survive a 19hr flight in business
@@xXTheDerpXx yeah besides if the Singapore-Newark flight is anything to go by then these ultra lon flights won't have economy class onboard. Again these flights are primarily for business travelers wanting to get to their destination the fastest by whatever means possible. Any sane economy passenger going that far would take at least one layover along the way.
@@drdewott9154 any smart person would take a layover I agree haha
J R plenty of economy passengers fly up to 17.5 hours at the moment. And most think it’s much better than a layover. The extra 2 hours flight time isn’t going to reduce the amount of economy passengers to zero. They’ve done lots of market research on this and have said that there is market demand for economy travel, as well as premium, business and first.
You’re likely not in the target market for this sort of flight. That’s fine. There are other options for you. But as long as the plane is 90% full every day with people who actually prefer this, Qantas won’t go chasing your business
DrDewott Singapore airlines does have economy class. They call it premium economy. Not full class business.
It's better when you do it in first class/business class. Economy on a 19 hour flight might be a nightmare.
Who can afford business class without a corporate backer?
DIV DEVOE can’t even imagine
I mean that's part of the reason why flights like Newark-Singapore doesn't have economy class onboard. Economy passengers would of course want to relax a bit in a layover, adjust as they go, and relax a bit. These flights are of course mostly geared towards businessmen wanting to save time.
I don’t think there even is an economy class is these flights
@@basspig using frequent flyer points and planning, you end up spending 200-500 more than a normal flight. Its not that hard really.
LON-SYD non-stop will be amazing, but not sure why the media is making the 19-hour Qantas flight sound so exotic when Singapore Airlines is flying SQ21 from EWR-SIN daily right now at 18.5+ hours. I don't think the extra 30 minutes makes much difference to jet lag and passenger endurance/comfort.
Because it involves Singapore, they have yet to Columbus it or discover it.
😁
@@amit4Bihar I'm pretty sure the British already did that about a century ago.
Marketing coup by Qantas. They managed to make this different ebon enough to get a lot of media.
Its exciting because people have always wanted a direct Sydney to London and NYC. SIN-EWR isnt exciting cause the purposely made the route long.
"Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"
No, we still at the TSA check in long line.
Shut up Nappa
Whenever they do these type of videos, they always do it from a business class seat! Like dude, anybody can do a 19 hour flight when you're laying in luxury and being served premium meals.......show us this in Economy so we'll really see what jetlag is!
db60615 These sunrise flights will not be an economy flight !!! business and first class !! ! Pay attention !!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 Honey did you not read what I wrote? Are you paying attention???
I physically can’t sleep in a economy seat so if I take that flight I’m done.
Farris FcBrian there’s no economy class in ultra long haul flights
Shevan gomis They probably have premium economy it’s better but doesn’t go flat
@@shevangomis6432 yes there is LOL
Carl it’s premium economy and not the standard economy class
@@shevangomis6432 there is economy for 13h long flights
I have completely eliminated the 'jet lag' problem at least for myself. I have been flying internationally since 1980 These days I regularly fly between Asia, USA and the UK. I am not sure that the exhaustion is due to time differencies.
Try sitting up at home in an uncomfortable chair unable to move your legs and often told you cannot get out of your seat, for 10 hours. You might experience the same 'jet lag' symptoms after that, in fact it would be almost torture to try it.
I found that a lot of the problem was due to lack of sleep. A USA to Asia trip can mean being up or on the plane over 30 hours. Try going without proper sleep for 24 hours or more, even a moderate 5 hour flight means being awake and busy before and after the flight, and getting tired even without the flight
A luxury solution I have these days is to be able to take an afternoon nap. This puts me into two 12 hour cycles instead of one 24 hour cycle. When I get to the US which is about 12 hour out from Asia, I just extend the nap to become the night sleep and reduce the what was the night sleep to a nap.
Another luxury solution is I refuse now to fly economy any longer than a couple of hours. The lay flat business class seats are lovely. I enjoy the pampering by the service to but it isn't why I fly business its being able to sleep properly.
That is how I can arrive after a flight and not feel any problems at all.
I’m a Flight Attendant and this flight would still be so hard! Schedule or not.
i flew Sq002 Prem Economy- big mistake, felt so constrained.
When in Economy I walk around more.
If you’re going to test, fill half of the economy class and make everyone sit right next to each other.
And try to eat while the seat infront you is reclined those are the worst...
@@eliteclassicdetailing Will they do more tests? Probably, but if they're going to do a real test it's not going to be people sitting in first or in the business class. A real test would probably be the first few flights filled with actual passengers. These test with barely anyone inside was hardly a test of long haul passenger behaviors.
For extra long flights, planes should not have seats, but sleeping pods.
The seats in economy don't recline enough to sleep
How about Qantas look after their customers and take some seats out
Yea just make rows of bunk beds like 3 high.
Planes should have whatever people are willing to pay for. Nothing is free. It would be nice to have pods on long or short haul flights, but there's no business case for that because most people aren't willing to spend thousands of dollars more for them.
Event for America-Europe flights, this should be it. This would be sooo much easier for everyone.
@Jeff Keeth How is being horizontal taking more space than being seated? You can easily stack 4 people in top of each other in a horizontal position, and can have many people in a row.
Is there really a challenge to survive a 19 hours flight when you are seating in a bed and treated with some actual quality food?
Not at all. I got a resonable price this year and flew Business Class on Emirates A380 between Auckland and Dubai (17 hours). I just relaxed and enjoyed the flight and it was over before I knew it. If anyone thinks a long haul flight in Business Class is a challenge, then their life must be VERY easy.
I mean it was on business class 🤔
Alonso T a friggin joke
It was the first research flight. Looks like you don't understand much!
@@malahammer Yes, but the research flight is designed to think of ways to provide the whole plane to keep people comfortable. It would be impossible to have all of the economy passengers doing the Macarena in the middle of the plane.
@@-TJ- There is no economy on ultra long range flights
Do it in economy! Business class is easier to sleep and relax lol
There would be a riot after about 11 hours 😂
I can't wait for them to do the research on Economy class passengers, since these people flew in business... also, I am so excited that they will provide pajamas and a fitness class for everybody on board!!!
Pretty certain this is business class only - no current planes could fly that distance with a full load of economy passengers
benrgrogan no they intend to operate with 4 classes. Hence why they are doing these research flights
@@tim_f_jones I stand corrected although it seems from what I've just read from Qantas and Airbus, it will be very different from standard economy - the plane will carry fewer than 150 passengers
Looks like you don't understand much!
I'm pretty sure they won't even have economy class just because it's that long. Singapore airlines did a similar long haul flight from NYC to Singapore, they only have an economy premium which has slightly bigger seats and more comfortable. Plus the economy class for international flights is much more comfortable than domestic ones
I have never in my life taken a dump on a plane. Would I need to on a 19 hr flight?
well, if you take a dump at the airport just before boarding the plane you won't have to i think...
I have never shitted on a airplane I just don’t ever have the urge and I usually fast when traveling I eat crackers mostly and plenty of fluids . Plus I always felt like if I shitted on a plane they would land the plane due to emergency because I would of blew it up !!!
I've done the auckland to Doha flight 3 times. And it drains you... Been in business class too but you just get the urge to get off the plane asap
My military transportation flight from Anchorage , Alaska to Saigon , Vietnam was 19 hours !
0:18 quantas ?? * Qantas , there is no " u " in that word
How about a straight 1 whole day flight
19 hrs is i think* same as a day
sagun khadka 24 hours is a day
I don’t think there are two points on earth that can’t be reached by flight in at least 24 hours. Maybe New York to Perth?
How about I sit on a pole. Probably feels just as terrible
@@DCONightingale Auckland To London is 24 hours if it was Non Stop
They better have Netflix on board.
My wife and I recently flew from Dallas to Sydney which was a 17 hour flight, of course we couldn’t afford first class. Flying coach vs first class is a very different experience. The seating on these planes are way to tight for flights this long. It was the worst 17 hours of our lives.
makeup isn't doing much here
Did they test anyone sitting in coach or just premium travelers? All stupid comments will be ignored.
No one cares about the comfort of the cattle-class.
just obese
Usually this kind of extra long-haul flights are Business and first-class only. They are more expensive than regular flights (carring all the fuel in one go mostly), what gets paid whitout much problem by bussines travellers, since their time its expensive to companies, but regular turists normally are more sensitive to cost than time.
As for your "all stupid comments will be ignored" dude no one cares. You're not an authority on flights so that we have to deserve your approval.
@@MottaGroove Actually I've been on long haul flights to South Korea with all cabins filled. I sat in coach most of the time but got lucky one return trip and was upgraded to business class. Business class was awesome! Not quite nineteen hours (i've done 18 hours on military planes) but still seems like forever while sitting in coach.
meh... if i'm gonna take ultra long flight nonstop... i'd rather sitting that has more legroom... ratger than qantas... their premium soooo expensive af
If they end up doing this, it will probably be similar to Singapore's nonstop to/from Newark, where there's only business and premium economy. It will lead to a lighter load making the flight possible, but also because it'll mainly be business travelers who will spend the extra money to save the time. Us leisure passengers would rather book cheaper flights with a layover in California or Dubai.
Boilermaker no, their Perth to London service is on a standart lay out plane yet passangers are satisfied
@@pilotjonas8 I know that, but that's "only" the 3rd longest flight. Singapore to Newark is the longest flight at the moment and adopted the all premium configuration for that reason. JFK-SYD would be 900 miles more than the Perth route, and Sydney to London would be 1,500 miles more than the Perth route as well. At that point, extra weight needs to be lost in order to make the flight viable.
It was the first research flight. Looks like you don't understand much!
@@malahammer oh i do know more than you do sir... i've been tried on their research flight from SYD - JFK... the results.. none of it work obviously... i can tell you that qantas seats will make you SORES.. even you're stretching... won't help anything
You better give everybody a big seat that reclines! I'm not flying 19 hours with a seat of only 17 inches clearance to the seat in front of me!
Lol... what a joke. I can travel to Mars in first class. I am from Greece and i was studying in America. I have been trAveling back and forth and jet lag has to do with what you do ON the flight. The actual jet lag is 3-4 days MAX. I remember once I took Xanax and alcohol and I woke up in the U.S.. My jetlag lasted 14 days
What's the point of all this medical non-sense. What does make a big difference is:
Empty flight vs a complete full plane! Business seat vs economy seats!
Conclusion: it's more relaxed in business when the plain is empty. ;-((
it's base research oh my god. you have to start somewhere.
thats like asking whats all this science nonsense
whats the big difference like why don't they split 100 atoms instead of 1
@@judgedred_d I'm sorry, real scientist are working on fundamental research. I can tell they all laugh with those wannabes. If you want to know the impact of something, you have to focus on the key factors first. NOT test details in an unrealistic environment. It's all show for the media. WSJ should be more critical.
@@mumblic i feel bad for your kid
@@mumblic its called market research and it involves all sorts of data. jfc small minded.
It was the first research flight. Looks like you don't understand much!
how many gallons of fuel is used in 19 hrs ?
Not sure about gallons....but somewhere in region of 100,000kg.
thank you
Give me wifi and let me stretch my legs out abit and honestly I could do this easy
I have a simpler solution to this: increase at least three times the speed of planes.
anyone can do this in the comforts of business class Gees
I’m just proud Qantas is doing this, yay Australia!
New York to Sydney
Somewhere over the ocean
“Ladies and gentelman this is your captain speaking we have just run out of food and beverages. Don’t worry, it’s only 15 more hours to our landing in Sydney.”
those people are talking about the economy class, I have the only thing to say them "PEOPLE'S THIS IS NOT THE ECONOMY CHANNEL TO WATCH THIS IS "WALL STREET JOURNAL", and the name itself says MONEY, so why they fly in economy ask a question by yourself"
Imagine if Ryanair flew this. It would be 2 hours of something, and 17 of boredom.
Not an accurate research flight if they didn’t fill economy full
In my career in the Military I have flown to the Far East, and Europe many times and to the Middle East once. Jet Lag? We had no time for jet lag; once we deplaned and transported to our assembly area we got down to the business we came for.
As for our transportation for our trip, if it was Military we Sardine packed. If it was commercial charter the seating was no leg room for anyone over 5 foot 10 inch. Sleep in flight was the recommended way to pass the time because we would be up and on duty for up to thirty hours after arrival. The longest flight was 23 hours from the West coast USA to Vietnam with two refueling stops and no deplaning, no walking about on board.
Ah! To have the luxury of jet lag.
Great video. One complaint: fix your audio. One moment its a little quiet and the next the speaker is screaming in my ear.
I flew 17 hrs nonstop San Fran. To Dubai. In coach. It is miserable and dangerous. Sitting that long even with restroom breaks Causes loss of circulation in legs and buttocks. It is painful. Business and first class. No problem. You can lay down.
Please do this Qantas!! I will definitely buy a ticket and so will all these people! I know you're reading this because it's already super popular!! See??
“Shedules”
I thought I'm worse at pronunciation as being an Indian but English speaking people would also make pronunciation mistakes
ACKCHYUALLY 😅 /ˈʃedjuːl/ is also right.
Shed jewels...joules 👉🚾👈👉💣👈!!
It's the British pronunciation: ruclips.net/video/eJlTbn-N5iU/видео.html
@Jiaxu Yu Hey thanks for getting back..I'm just back from work and had 2 American or Canadian tourists ask directions to The London Eye..about 500 metres from my front door...I did my best but in the end I walked them to within seeing distance....we parted on very good terms...LOL 👉💎👈ps..the politest are the Chinese and the very occasional Japanese👍❤
I rather have a 3 hrs stop over to flex my legs and see around airport specially as I'm in economy class
So 50-ish passengers: hardly an economic service.
ULH flights are only preminum econamy (3 times the eco price) and business (up to 10 times the eco price). They are targeting a specific customer base
@@FlightX101 Yes, I understand that (I work for an airline). It's just that small segments are rarely sustainable.
Yeah okay. Fly business?? Not feel tierd. Try economy man then prove your research...
All that way over remote Ocean on 2 Engines ? Forget it. Give me a 4 engined A380 or 747 thanks.
I like the idea of making flight sleep times match the destination time. Why don't they always do that? Great idea!
No top fan badge here???
Samiul Mahin
No this is not Facebook
@@nooriman5944 r/woooosh
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What was the joke? How is this comment funny?
I spent 17 of my 41 years in that industry flying long-haul flights, and I find it interesting that they didn't talk about the radiation health concerns of flying that long at those flight levels. It's a fact that in some countries long-haul flight crews are considered "radiation" workers, must wear exposure badges and can be limited to how many of those flights they can take. The increase in radiation exposure as you increase altitude is not linear. The difference in exposure between a flight a 31,000 feet as compared to 41,000 feet is very significant! Also, it's a bit comical having only 50 people on that "test" flight - plenty of room to move around. How easy do you think it's going to be getting 300 passengers to stand up and do the Macarena?
Meanwhile Indians are traveling 48hrs for 600km by train
WSJ: How badly do pilots land after 19 hours of autopilot, reheated meals and the Macarena?
Qantas: Yes
19 hrs flight as first class passengers....
EZ.
I hate my life on a 2h flight pff
I really hope these flights don't become the norm. They use waaaay more fule than a normal 1 stop flight, because you have to carry a lot of extra fuel. And to carry that extra fuel you have to use extra fuel. I think you get my point..
was hoping he'd be in a suit flying economy for 19 hours.
That's what I'm talking about...REAL situations, not these family yoga comforting soup eating mofos 😂
It was the first research flight. Looks like you don't understand much! And exercise is a must on these flights
What about the 90% passengers that were sitting on economy?
2019: We want to see the potentially damaging health effects of traveling all the way across the world in just 19 hours...
People from the past when it took > 2 months to sail the Atlantic: Hold my beer
When the Spanish use to control the Philippines in the early 1700s going to the Philippines and back to Spain was usually considered to be a three-year trip. One year to get there. One year in the Philippines and then one year to come back. I think that most of them would have appreciated a 19-hour trip even if they had to stand up the whole way.
If we still had the Concord, we'd be able to shave off 14 hours..
Concord Range: 4,488.04 mi (7,222.8 km, 3,900 nmi) It would great until it ran out of fuel about half the way there.
concorde is not fuel efficent burns up too much fuel
Below NOPE !!!! The concorde did not have near the range !! ! Why it never flew any Pacific routes !!! DUUUUHH!!!! ! Pay attention !!!!
I really like this reporter, he seems to enjoy his job. Seen a couple of his mini documentaries now.
This video teaches us that the best way to beat jet lag is to fly business class.
Just a quantas advert...pathetic wsj, pathetic
Why no aerobridge at Sidney Airport when passengers disembarked?
Sounds like more to me a publicity event for Boeing.
Paul It was QANTAS on their DELIVERY flight of a new plane !!! IF you had of listened to the explanation this was a RESEARCH flight BY and FOR QANTAS !!!!! BUT it was a BOEING plane that made the flight !!!
They land in Australia... now they need to go back home lol
It's basically trying to see whether there's an economic sense to it for Qantas... Period.
Done a 12 hr flight 6 times. Never again
I've done 5 rt between Beijing and Dallas this year. About 13h. It's brutal to say the least!
It doesn't matter cause the hours waiting in TSA will make up for the jet lag
TSA pre check. School yourself yankee
How to survive long haul flights
1. Free and fast WiFi
2. Seat near your fav celebrities
👍 Thanks, Scott! Great info, as usual! 😎
Instead of Morning hours, they should arrive close to the Evening time so passengers can go to bed and get up fresh! Not much planning to say the least!!!
Do y’all realize the end of decade is in almost 3 months...so much has gone down and shaped us the way we are today
WSJ 300lbs reporter bear should charges 25% more for the seat and give Him 30% off on burger only
What about pilot fatigue? There has been fatal situations in much shorter flights!
Soon, there will be 20+ Hours of Nonstop Flights from Manila to South America, The Manila to Ushuaia Flight will be the Longest in the World with 23-24 Hours of Flight Time, The Another Longest will be Manila to Buenos Aires, Then Manila to Sao Paulo, Then Manila to Montevideo, Then Manila to Santiago, Then Manila to Rio De Janeiro and Then Manila to Lima, Peru, The Possible Longest Flights are: Auckland to London, Auckland to Paris CDG, Perth to New York JFK, Cape Town to Tokyo, Johannesburg to Tokyo, Auckland to Madrid, Auckland to Lisbon, Auckland to Helsinki, Auckland to Warsaw, Auckland to Frankfurt, Auckland to Munich, Auckland to Rome Fiumicino, and Ushuaia to Singapore.
19 hour flight from NYC to Sydney unless the jet is equipped with the MCAS homicidal software.
judge crater The 737 max can’t fly anywhere near that far. what’s your point?
Imagine spending 19 hours on a SardineLiner...
can't relate!
Uhh, I flew longer in 2017 when a bunch of countries suddenly closed their airspace to Qatar Air. It didn't seem like such a big deal to me.
Jet lag is a rich person problem.
Pepe while getting an affordable plane ticket is an avg person problem.
Guys, this 19 hours direct flight are to meant to offer alternative to 30 hours flights with transits. It's meant for people who pays more, so this plane has no economy class.
I’d rather fly a 737 max
Terrible idea.
"Lets do a social experiment about jet lag" yet fly Business class where you basically get a bed to sleep in, get a better meal, a more comfortable seat and better service.
If these flights are so long, why fly 19 hours in one direction and get all jetlagged when you can just fly 5 hours in the other direction? The math… I just don’t get it
Must the interviewer begin every question with an extraneous "so?"
So?
Thank you!!
Who flew the plane ??
Why don't passengers do the Haka, in the food gallery.. Then all play touch football throughout the aircraft...... There some good exercise for you!!!!!!!....... ☺.
You would have to sedate me I’m to adhd I have a hard enough time sitting on a 2 hour flight lol
Walk!
just ger concorde back to the air
You do know now much that would cost?
How about we bring back the concord and just fly in approximately 6 hours. We are in 2019/2020 and we still have to fly 19 hours when we could travel at march 2 speed more than 30+ years ago.
It s good you idea if you flight first class with all that comfort things. But i can't imagine how it is possible to spend 19 hrs in the stand or sit position. And don't forget about couple hours which you spent in departure airport.
It is madness. Qantas - you're crazy.
It was the first research flight. Looks like you don't understand much!
@@malahammer looks like you're Mr. Smartass
Test on business class... Yeah right. 😐