How aluminium boats are built, Alubat factory tour

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @CorniliusDimworthy
    @CorniliusDimworthy Месяц назад +2

    Great to see the place where my own boat was born, an Ovni 365. Thanks for a fascinating tour.

  • @stefanolo2
    @stefanolo2 Месяц назад +5

    Thanks, girls, for that in-depth factory tour. Everything about that boat (for me, the 370) is spot on, in particular the insulation, because I’m a live aboard in Scandinavia ❄️🌧️

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад +1

      They have an option for a diesel heater forward to, so you can stay toasty warm;)

  • @graemeday4195
    @graemeday4195 Месяц назад +2

    Now it makes sense when companies like alubat give you a lead time of a year or more. Great craftsmanship and solid construction.

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад +1

      You are right and what amazes me is how long it takes to build and process a production boat.

    • @carlthor91
      @carlthor91 Месяц назад

      Did you think they could pop one out in two months????
      Two years from sitting down with the designers and yard management to completion seems to be the norm, unless you want something over 70 feet long. Then I think it would get very interesting.

  • @jimlucier7968
    @jimlucier7968 Месяц назад +3

    Great job!!!
    Very interesting tour.

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад

      Thank you but we have room to improve and work on adding more information for you guys. Thanks for watching;)

  • @kayburow4539
    @kayburow4539 Месяц назад +2

    I love your vids, thanks for sharing information

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад

      Thanks, we are happy you like them. If there is anything you would like us to do please ask.

  • @constantinealexandrakis
    @constantinealexandrakis Месяц назад +2

    Thank you for a fantastic tour of the yard. Alubat is doing great things and being able to see them in action is a privilege. Can't wait to see the 490 though I'd opt for the standard (according to Alubat's page) diesel shaft drive. Shaft for the reasons discussed by Alubat's own Rob Poirier and diesel because I'm still a bit skeptical that hybrid electric motors are there yet in terms of providing enough power when under generator in an emergency.
    PS. Both pretty!

    • @brownnoise357
      @brownnoise357 Месяц назад +1

      @@constantinealexandrakis Frankly, to me, the Only Electric Propulsion that is ready for Market in the Marine Environment is either Nuclear Power or Gas Turbine Powered, and to me, the Foundation Renewable Enery Source is primarily going to be Ultra Clean Synthetic Energy Density Enhanced Diesel Furl from Plasma Gasification Waste to Energy with Syngas Production, followed closely by Ultra Clean Gasoline via the same Production Process. All at very low price, and which can Never Run Out, due to the Wide Range of Feedstocks that can be used. At 2018 prices, a complete Plant for Production cost about 16 million dollars US, from Westinghouse. The entire Electric Vehicle Market already seems to be Collapsing, as in China, after constant Lithium Fires and Explosions, Large numbers of Mercedes Quality EV'sare being Dumped Brand New and unused still in their Delivery Wrappers, and in the UK, Car Dealers have stopped taking them in as Trade insurance, as they just can't sell the things. Insurance for them is Skyrocketing which isn't helping either. 🤔 Best Wishes. Bob. 👍

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад +3

      This is going to be a hot topic I think over the next few years on how not just sailboats (which in their nature are a cleaner source of transport) but motor boats too. The best hybrid system so far has been on the Southern wind yachts and that's really just a copycat of the New York City buses, (old tech) I will always say if there is an option for a bigger engine for a boat take it because one day you will need it out in the ocean. Ah thanks, and we are glad you liked the video.

    • @brownnoise357
      @brownnoise357 Месяц назад

      @@SVTONICBoatWives Nothing is being helped by us barkingbup completely the Wrong Trees, when it comes to Climate, the Atmosphere and totally underestimating the importance of Our Atmosphere having a plentiful Surplus of CO2 Content (surprisingly looking to be emphasised by findings from Mars Atmosphere Research ). when watching the UK Parliament Science and Technology Committee discussions on what was clearly a Dekiberately attempted Fraudvtonextract Guge amounts of Public Money via "Ocean Acidification " I got more than a bit annoyed at the Deceptions and Lies to the Committe Taking place, so as a multi disciplined Engineer, Decided to try my hand at Science, following the rules ofvthe Scientific Method of Empiricism. So I produced a thoroughly Researched Study, complete with Links to Solidvevidence, including Photographic evidence from a Diving zCentre in the Red Sea, and other similar Sources, which if what was being presented to the Committee was correct, would be BarrennLifeless Wastelands of Dead Corals, instead of which of course, they arevteemingbwith Life and Healthy Corals. The Studybtook me about 10 evenings of my own time and my computer connected to the Internet, so I emailed it off. Turns out it so impressed the Committee, that the Chairman Requested, and received, my permission to Publish it . Result ? Ocean Acidification doesn't appear to have even been mentioned in Parliament Since. Very Large Problem ? The Evidence I found very clearly points to Our Oceans locking up Far Too Much CO2 Out of the Reach of Life and Biodiversity, which has Resulted in Our Atmosphere having a pretty zserious Shortage of CO2 Content. This is easily Confirmed, because the great majority of Plant Varieties are attempting to Compensate, by increasing water consumption, which is leaving themnweakened and Vulnerable to insect attacks and Plant Diseases. Only Desert Variety Plants are unaffected. So with Plants Badly affected, sonis Photosynthesis, and the lack of CO2 is seriously affecting the production of Oxygen in the form of Ozone so there is nothing likevenough Ozone being created to Repair the Oxone Layer Ptotective Shielding, which has been Seriously damaged by Solar Emmissions during particularly Active Solar Cycles, which have even seen Double Peaks in Sunspot Activity. Phew rest a bit, and new Paragraph
      How is "Net Zero " going to Affect this ? Bluntly, Very Badly, and likely resulting with a Seruous Shortage turning Critical. 😡
      How bad is it now? Well so much UV is getting through the Ozone Layer in the Northern Hemisphere, that around 60 % of the Arctic Circle Land Mass has the UV killing the Chlorophyll Content in Snow Algae, resulting in the Effect called Snow Bleeding or Watermelon Snow. But an initial indicator showed up, when in Mid December 2023 Sailing Atticus Spotted something I was waiting on, when they were Cruising the GreekmIslands, and they commented on spotting very unusual Purple Coloured Algae ! They didn't know the Significance, but it confirms that excessive UV Penetration has now reached the Mediterranean Latitudes, and it explains why in Mast Furling has become very important for Protecting Sailcloth from UV Damage which can 2reck it really Fast. Can all this be fixed ? Yep Really fast too, but we havecto Ditch all of the Fake, ideology driven Junk Science, and start producing a lot more CO2, mostly in the right places, and via Desalination and Drip Agriculture, start Farming Desertscthat are close to the Coastlines around the World just like Saudi Arabia is doing, and producing high quality Fruit and vegetables which it is now an exporter of. The Sahara would be relatively easy to do, would produce 6 harvests a year - feeding the World about 9 times over - and trees wouldcreach maturity there, in about 5 years - So plenty of Surplus Biomass which via Plasma Gasification with Syngas Production of Ultra Clean Liquid and Gas Fuels, wouldvprovide all of the energy needed by the Sahara Region, plus a useful Surplus. The Oxygen Balance in the Atmosphere would also be improved. However, we would have to watch that we don't overdonit, though we may well want to, as we could create a new Ice Age ? But that would mean vastvareas of Land becoming above Sea Level, which could getvrid of some Sailing areas to Cruise, but the Planet, Plants, and Biodiversity would be in Terrific Shape, and all we really have to do , is Ditch The Stupid ? Unfortunately, Stupid People appear to be seriously addicted, and determined to remain as Stupid as Possible, so right now, I suspect we are going to continue Barking up Completely the Wrong Trees. Sigh. 🤔 Things must Change. Bob.

  • @philipwright7186
    @philipwright7186 Месяц назад +1

    Companies that choose their own path based on their own principles are becoming rarer by the day. Well done Alubat for sticking to what it believes in, and offering the customer more choice as a result. A proper swing keel too that retracts into the hull to allow the yacht to dry out, such a useful feature.
    I'm not sure aluminium construction (in general) makes a boat orca-proof though. For all its qualities it is a relatively soft material. Orcas have already disproven the theory that skeg hung rudders are bullet proof. Perhaps there's something to be said for making rudders sacrificial in order to preserve the intergity of the hull (assuming a spare/emergency rudder system is available)?

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад +2

      Good point regarding the orcas, having been through the ordeal last year it's hard to say and I like to believe they are just playing or at least trying to get us to slow the fishing down, who knows. I like lifting keels or centre boards as it opens up your options not just for drying out but for getting into different spots too.

  • @CharlieZenenour
    @CharlieZenenour Месяц назад +2

    Let me know if I got this right.
    The best sailing yacht builders that are not custom are:
    • Alubat
    • Linjett
    • Elan
    • Shogun
    • Allures
    • Saare
    • Garcia
    • Kraken
    • Contest
    • Gunboat
    The really cheap builders are:
    •Dufour
    •Fountaine Pajot
    •Bavaria
    •Lagoon
    •Neil

    • @CharlieZenenour
      @CharlieZenenour Месяц назад +1

      Intermediary builders are:
      • HH Catamarans
      • Balance
      • Outremer
      • Arcona
      • Nautor Swan (Production line)
      • Solaris
      • Grand soleil
      • Beneteau
      • Moody

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад

      @@CharlieZenenour we missed a few, as you know any yacht is a compromise and even a great shipyard has its limits, but when a yard is run by global adventure sailors and they listen not just to their costemers but to other yacht owners something special starts to happen and they evolve for our benefit. I love all boats big and small and my aime is just to help as many people get out on the water or participate in the sailing world one way or another.

    • @CharlieZenenour
      @CharlieZenenour Месяц назад

      @@SVTONICBoatWives
      That's a very corporate response.
      I like it!
      heheh

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад +1

      @@CharlieZenenour ha ha I am working hard to be more diplomatic.

    • @taxivideo
      @taxivideo Месяц назад +1

      @@SVTONICBoatWives Bonjour, avez vous fait un reportage sur le chantier META ? merci.

  • @SuperSventizeMe
    @SuperSventizeMe Месяц назад +2

    You tour a factory as well as you tour a boat! Outstanding! I learned a lot about how aluminum boats are built.
    Since you have reviewed the Allures 51.9 and the Garcia Exploration 52 in great detail, I would be curious as to how you see the design of the Ovni 490 comparing since you state that you believe it will be "the bench-mark for future blue water cruisers." Any idea when they will have one for you to tour? Also: tour the Grand Large (Allures/Garcia) factory next! And then Boreal! Vive le voilier en aluminium!

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад

      The first 490 will be ready for us in the spring I believe maybe earlier, we have a sea trial of a 430 first and on the 5, of October I have another sea trial of a garcia 52. This time there will be no walk-through tour of the boat, as I want to highlight how easy the 52 is on manoeuvring, sailing and everything that makes a Garcia rock. Boreal has invited us to have a look, but it is just when. Not to give anything away but we have a sea trial of an Amel 60 coming up and maybe a factory tour there as well.

    • @SuperSventizeMe
      @SuperSventizeMe Месяц назад

      @@SVTONICBoatWives Exciting to see you providing more info and illumination on aluminum boats! Looking forward to your sailing test of the GX52. I'm going to see the GX52 and A51.9 at the Annapolis show in 2 weeks. I will also see at the show the brand-new, can't-really-find-any-good-pictures-anywhere Boréal 70. A 70 is probably too much boat- I wish they were bringing a 55.2- but I'm itching to see anything from them.

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад

      @@SuperSventizeMe we wish we were at the Annapolis but family commitments have put a hold on that.

  • @generalgibberish6107
    @generalgibberish6107 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for the Tour, the woman from Alubat said they do Refits 9:08 ? I am looking forward to the test sail. The 490 looks very nice Congratulations on your new Boat? I wonder when it will be ready for you.

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад

      yes, they do refit, there were two in the yard when we looked around. One was an older 44/45 ft getting modernised and ready for a vouage up into the Arctic Circle and the other was a newer 370 getting retrofitted for a solo sailer.

  • @Ian-gf8id
    @Ian-gf8id Месяц назад +2

    Great factory tour, thanks. Lovely boats, but a new one is beyond my financial reach unfortunately. Maybe in 10 years time on the 2nd hand market. So, when are you placing your order for a 490 ??

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад

      Wouldn't that be nice a 490 eh, sadly not yet, like you unless we come into some money we will have to wait for the 2nd hand market? Hmm maybe;)

  • @brownnoise357
    @brownnoise357 Месяц назад +1

    Hi Ladies. I have a Contact who I pointed your Channel to - which he likes, and who you could chat with about extended options for the Dufour Range, and who can likely sort out a Factory Visit, so how can I send you the Contact details privately? Bob PS. The Company is the one really working their Butts Off to Get me exactly what I need Built and/or customised.👍

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад +1

      I appreciate your help with this Bob, On the contact details for our RUclips channel, we have our work/my email. In a few weeks, we will make our Patreon live so people can get direct access to us that way as well.

    • @brownnoise357
      @brownnoise357 Месяц назад

      @@SVTONICBoatWives Having a look see if I an forward Janie’s email to you 👍

    • @brownnoise357
      @brownnoise357 Месяц назад +1

      @@SVTONICBoatWives Jesus Wept I think I managed it, it’s all in comments in Patreon. Off for a Mince Pie followed by a Cigarette. sigh. 😊👍⛵️

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад +1

      @@brownnoise357 Just found it thank you and thank you for the sea miles. we are just starting with Patreon so lots on the page are unfinished. I just want to create a chat room and that sort of thing so we can all get together from time to time a talk things boaty etc.

    • @brownnoise357
      @brownnoise357 Месяц назад

      @@SVTONICBoatWives Sounds good.👍 Not sure how long I'll be able to keep Patreon going at the moment - trying to save up enough to fill the Heating Oil Tank in November - filling it thenshould get us through to March nicely. Jamie likes your Hannel, and should be able to help with Boat Tours at Shows, and I bet that Dufour 390 would be right up a lot of people's street tbh, and frankly, my biggest worry is the amount of unprotected Termite Food Plywood there is tbh, and Bulkheads in particular need to have Termite Proof Coatings applied before the other internal Furniture gets fitted, and the furniture needs protecting as well. I haven't brought up the Subject of Termites up with Jamie yet, as I didn't want to Scare him too much. But given the places people like to Charter Boats in, also tend to have Termite problems, it needs thinking about tbh. Right now, only Island Packet take the Trrmite problem seriously, and that's because the new owners are former Osland Packet Dealers, and so many of their Customers were having their Boats literally Eaten from under them by Termites. 🤔 Best Wishes. Bob. 👍🌟🌟🌟❤️

  • @brownnoise357
    @brownnoise357 Месяц назад +1

    Frankly, I think it best for me and the Channel if I cease Commenting and Subscribing to it if others who comment cant handle valid Criticisms which are easily confirmed with their own eyes, once serious failures are not just pointed out, but are rationally explained. At least for a while I will also unsibscibe until the deeply shocked manage to grow up. My very Best Wishes Ladies, and wishing you Every Success. Bye for now. Bob, who will never excuse the inexcusable. 🤔🌟🌟🌟👍❤️

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад +3

      There is no need to go, Bob, we are all friends here, and you have been here for a long time so stay, please.

    • @brownnoise357
      @brownnoise357 Месяц назад

      @@SVTONICBoatWives OK. you smooth talker you. Resubscribed. 😄🌟🌟👍

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад

      @@brownnoise357 brilliant

  • @brownnoise357
    @brownnoise357 Месяц назад +3

    Much to like, apart from shockingly bad and amateur Spraying Technique which results in uneven paint application. You should stop spraying at the end of a pass, before starting again on the next Spraying Pass. by keeping Spraying at the end of each passtheends get over sprayed, causing runs and extra paint build up. Press spray, pass end spray start spray pass end spray, is the correct technique. Me? I'd have had to show them. laughs. 😅 Don't worry, I have had to point out incorrect Slating to the Spanish natural Slating school, along with problems they hadn't appreciated with the problems with Hook Fixing Slates either, along with how to correctly fit the final top course of Slates Correctly. I even had to Design a Correct Copper Nail for Slate fixing, to replace the Copper Nails being used which guaranteed Nail Failure, and inevitable Roof Failure. As I admit, I'm a right old Fussy Pants. 😅 Nice look see - and if you rematch the Spraying, you should see what I'm on about. Spraying like that would have them sacked by my former Custom Bodywork Boss, withbwhom I rebuilt his Offshore Powerboat - which had a gorgeous Paint job - he had perfect timing for wave hopping when going flat outbtoo. Old Max was an impressive Power Boat Driver tbh. Probably dead and gone now. Best Wishes, and thanks again. Bo . 🤔🌟🌟🌟👍❤️

    • @bertrandpoiraud6525
      @bertrandpoiraud6525 Месяц назад

      pour infos l'applicateur fait le retour hors de la partie a peindre sur le haut il inverse sur le papier de camouflage et le bas il repart dessous la coque

    • @philipwright7186
      @philipwright7186 Месяц назад +1

      How shockingly rude of you.

    • @brownnoise357
      @brownnoise357 Месяц назад

      @@philipwright7186 Hoew is it Rude to Point Out Something that should be Ringing Alarm Bells, if a Company is getting Something Basic So Wrong ? Are you attempting to excuse what is the worst mistake Amateur Sprayers Always Make, and the video evidence is there in your Face ? That Hum is Far, Far Worse than being Rude ! Facts are Facts, and if you can't handle the Truth, Sorry Chum but that is YOUR Problem So YOU Own it. Now Dirch the Trolling attempt at excusing the inexcusable. Have *I* Done better Spraying than That ? Yep, I was Trained by a Professional and worked the Paint Booth on a Factory Production Line (at a Factory for Cam Gears that made Auto Parts ). I made the Comment because it was Obvious, Pertinent, and raises questions about Basic inability to get something important right - Consistency of Paint Coat Application - "Rude" was you barging in, and instead of making a Contribution of Some Value, all you were capable of, was delivering a Drive by ignorant insult. ffs, even the Spanish Slating School Changed their Teaching when the Safety implications of what I showed them Sank in - if the top course of the Slates wasn't solidly fixed, then the Heacy Ridge Tiles couldn't be fitted Securely, and we're a Safety Hazard to everybody on the Street Below ! ut according to you, Maybe I dhould have bit my Tongue ? 🤔 😡

    • @brownnoise357
      @brownnoise357 Месяц назад

      @@philipwright7186 Hmm. My reply has been disappeared.tbh, pointing out a Chronic lack of Skill should be welcomed as well as accepted as valid Criticism by any professional Company that should be interested in improving their products ? In Fact it is expected from highly paid Troubleshooters who get pulled in Urgently to resolve serious Problems with for example Construction Projects, one of the last experts in that field Globally, was my Friend Clem, who amongst many Troubleshooting Contracts was for a German Designed and Supervised Power Station in Africa. Without his remedial work, if the power station had been fired up, with all of the Technical Staff at their Stations in the Control Room, avery single individual in that Control Room would have been Electrocuted and killed, and the transformer Far right next to a Housing Development would have Had a Chain of Plasma Detonations, like a Cascade of Mini Nuclear Explosions going off. Clem was skilled enough to fully redesign the Wiring on the Fly, and trained the Workforce how to safely Wire up High Voltage wiring Connections, and yes, I’m pretty sure the German Designers thoughThat Clem Said About them was moo than a bit Rude. Unfortunately, Google isn’t allowing a translation of that comment in French, but it is hard to escape the significance of the word “Canouflage” which too me counts as another Ske against me being able to recommend this Companies Products. My ion of them in fact started as favourable, but sadly that is no longer the case, and isn’t helped by their attempt at concealing unprofessionalism, which right now, they are clearly encouraging. tbh, if I could have had some assurances on the reliability of Lifting Keels, I had become interested in the 430 Model. Well, I guess they can kiss goodbye to that potential Order as an example of my supposed rudeness. 🤔 Still, at least continuing debate in the comments section, may assist SV Tonic Boatwives Channel’s Google Algorithms I supppoose. Bob.👍🌟🌟🌟⛵️❤️

    • @SVTONICBoatWives
      @SVTONICBoatWives  Месяц назад +3

      Can everyone play nice please or I will be forced to open another bottle of whisky and sing you all a very bad sea chanty about naughty mermades and hardy pirates.

  • @brownnoise357
    @brownnoise357 Месяц назад

    An extremely Disturbing PS to my very long post on CO2, Ozone etc etc. Mars Atmosphere Research clearly points to a healthy Surplus of CO2 Content, actively working hand in glove with Photosynthesis, actively Works to Prevent a Runaway Greenhouse Effect ? Which leads to the Disturbing Hypothesis - That Forces are at work in the attempt to Exterminate All Carbon Based Life on this Planet of Ours ! Unfortunately, all of the Facts and Actions being taken Fitvthis Hypothesis, and I would Absolutely be delighted, and love to have that Hypothesis Proven to be Wrong. Please, Please Prove me Wrong. 🤔 Bob. 😢

    • @brownnoise357
      @brownnoise357 Месяц назад

      PPS. A Verification of the Mars Atmosphere Research Conclusions, are provided by Earth's Atmosphere 75 million years ago, at the time of the Dinosaurs, when the Atmosphere had a very abundant supply, and the intensity of Plant Growth and therefore Photosynthesis was simply staggering, just to be able to support very large numbers of simply massive Dinosaurs reaching Fully Grown Maturity in a very short time. Yet No Runaway Greenhouse Effect ? The extent to which we are being Lied To, and Deliberately So at that, is reattaching. Either Watson or Crick, the DNA guys - I can't be arsed to look it up at this hour - Said that Contrary to the Opinion of their Mother's, Most Scientists were just Stupid ? They forgot to add just how urrerly Corrupt they are as well. Frankly, Stalin would have had all of them shot for the damage they were doing to Real Science if he had known. Instead, the Soviet Union had the sense to Ban Lysenkoism in the mid 1960's, and they never de.iberately Dumbed Down their Popu.ation like the West did, from about 1905 either, plus haven't De Industrialised. Hence the Russian Federation is at least 40 years ahead of Western Science in pretty much every Field and along with China and BRICS, now stands to take over the entire global Technology Msrket because Western Pagers, Walkie Talkies, Laptops and Mobile Phones have gone "BANG ! " You just couldn't make it up. 😄😄😄 🤔😡 tbh, I think RICS knows about the CO2 Shodtage, and that is why hima expa ded the number er of Coal Fired Power Stations that they are Building ? Actually it would serve us better to have them Built at more Equatorial Latitudes ? Terraforming to serve Carbon Based Life Forms, is a damned sight easier than for non Carbon Based Life Forms, and this may surprise some, but Well Educated Organic Brain intelligence is others of magnitude Superior to what we Call Artificial intelligence. To the Point, at after being an AI Research and Development Tester sin e the 1970's , and know just how Stupid and Psychopath AI really is, I srtaunly won't be allowing it onto any of my devices, and if there is no option, I will Bin them, and disappear over the Horizon on a Sailboat. Nobody Sane is going to like what these things lead to Frankley. I've watched page after page of players log out and never to return, when they reach End Game, and have watched it happen for Decades, and the Research Devs ? Refuse to listen when us Testers warned them what the Outcome would be, if they Continued with what they were doing. Then when it all Blew Up in Their Faces, Always the Same Words - But Nobody Could Have Seen it Coming ! Just like the EU, it committed slow Suicide in 2014 by taking interest Rates Negative, that Blew Up the EU in the September 2019 Repo Crisis, and now in 2024 (I got it wrong, I predicted its collapse would start in 2025 ) with every EU Bank, Financial institution and the ECB insolvent. the Collapse of the EU has now Started, and even the non Economist Garland Nixon - a nice guy - has spotted that the EU is Collapsing. This will make you split your sides laughing - Yet the British Political Establishment is doing its damndest to get Britain Back In ? 😀😀😀😀😀 All the Best, and maybe see you over the Rainbow. Bob. 👍🌟🌟🌟❤️