Mojang is burning down. (Minecraft Ban/Report System)
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- Mojang decided they could ban anyone that broke their rules. Players don't like that.
0:00 - Intro
0:33 - Bedrock's Report System
2:36 - Java's Report System
5:42 - Clearing Up Confusion
7:52 - Outro
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Updates:
Mojang has updated the report system, and several of the report categories are either removed or refined, so it's less overbearing (though still counts as such, in my opinion).
Mojang has confirmed that a ban will affect all versions of Minecraft. This means if you get banned on 1.19, you will be banned from all of Minecraft, but you likely cannot be banned on an older version due to the lack of a reporting system.
Mojang is currently working on a system to mark chat messages as "secure", "unsecure" or "modified", based on the cryptographic signatures of the text. This is presumably to fight against mods like No Chat Reports, which modify or remove these signatures.
Still do not believe we should have it even if there was ONLY one word that was banned from the game. It doesnt matter what theyre trying to do because at the end of the day they still are forcing rules on servers they dont own and have no control over
Regarding the last point, pre-release 2/3 did not actually do much that would affect my mod. I just uploaded my own video to cover technical side of latest updates and clarify misconceptions a lot of people seem to have about them.
I ain't using the chat anymore
I was figuring they were gonna go after the mods. Microsoft is still ruining Minecraft, and the community will roar as hard as we can to get this chat system either removed, or changed so that community owned servers are safe.
Looks like Minecraft is about to go up in flames... or everyone starts using other apps
Gotta love the "If a toddler cant chew the steak, neither should an adult" mindset
The entire western world is poisoned with this cancer in all corners of society at this point
If they ever go that far and ban steak for that reason, I will actually kill someone.
No talking mom! You’re making the newborns feel excluded.
@@janmamu8721 no functional eyeballs jimmy bob! Your making the blind mole rats feel excluded!
Had my legs broken because my newborn cousin couldn't walk
The real problem with this update is it seems as if they stick their nose in all of what you do now. They apply rules that are based to a younger audience on a more mature audience.
Sounds familiar **cough cough** RUclips **cough cough**
@@mayravixx25 And just like RUclips, it's going to get even worse. Microsoft has a plan to sanitize and sterilize Minecraft as a game to make it as profitable and marketable as possible, removing the true spirit of the game in the process.
@@mayravixx25 it the end of the world
Yup sounds like Microsoft
@@darkvoid3182 Maybe the end of freedom of speech and free choice in the US, but not the world lol. Besides, I imagine given enough time, people will find their way around it.
You pay for the game and get your own copy… but then they take away what you pay for?
Yes. It makes me so angry that I went onto minecraft to set puppies on fire. THAT'S LEGAL, CAPS AREN'T.
its a multiplayer ban pretty sure you can still play singleplayer
@@doubex1965 Appearently they can lock you out of singleplayer too
@@daridon2483 Which 98% of Minecrafts userbase (that's over 13) agree with profusely
Is a bad thing
the funny thing is that if you crack the game they can't ban you
Call me crazy, but wouldn't it be so epic if the whole of the Minecraft community joined together to report people only to write something like "the ban system sucks." Or something like that, I mean there's no better way to contact Minecraft about their ban system other than right through their ban system
Nice approach
And if its all cracked players, it won't harm your actual account anyway
But then again, if you got a person who didn't want to be reported like that and got banned because of it, then it's just a dick move on the community's part.
Or just talk about it in chat cuz they are probably stalking chat logs aswell
What if "Mass Report" got added to hacked clients?
I feel like Minecraft may be screwed at this point, with chat reporting being added, the Wild Update being a trainwreck and Hytale getting closer to release, goodness knows what will happen.
Hytale actually has the potential to overthrow Minecraft. It looks 10x better. That's good and scary.
@@slippinjimmy9787 Hytale makes Riot, and their main shareholder Tencent, who were caught on driver-replacing software and stealing all system data. If reports bother you, Hytale is not your bro.
@@EvilGeniys Tencent is much worse than that. They are the company behind TikTok and are wholly controlled by the Chinese Community Party.
@@slippinjimmy9787 That's what scares me lol.
the wild update wasnt even that bad compared to chat reporting
This actually kind of hurts to hear. Watching your childhood game be completely gutted of everything it once stood for and stuffed with corporate sterilization and censorship, sealed by a facade of what the game used to be. Even though I don't play anymore, this is still a real stab.
You can contact them and fight to stop this.
Oh so Pokemon?
@@yaemma8803 You're completely missing the point. You haven't been playing the game long enough to understand why this is such a big deal.
@@yaemma8803 I bet you are one of those from twitter who gers triggered by a joke
@UmbrellaLeef good
I am a realms player that plays with my friends and this is outrageous. Even assuming that the chat filter system is perfect, this is still unacceptable. I payed money for a subscription to play in a world with my friends, so in theory I should “own” this realm and I should have the final say on how I should play and what should or should not be allowed. A subscription for realms is like renting a house in real life, and Microsoft is the landlord. In real life, landlords are not allowed to enter tenants houses and take there stuff without permission. This chat filter system just like a landlord forcefully entering your house and throwing away your furniture just because they don’t like it.
Please do look into private server hosting. It's often cheaper than a Realms subscription, and you have much more control over your experience. Plus, you can install mods (including the No Chat Reports mod!)
That’s a pretty good way to put it
Not just that, it's also like the landlord telling you that you can't swear in your own house.
@@steverempel8584 AND the landlord has installed cameras all over the house, so that they can catch you committing a crime even between visits.
I completely agree but just for future reference the landlord comparison was actually incorrect. A landlord can actually enter their house whenever they want for business purposes, they just need to provide the tenant a day (It can't be same day) Renting a house doesn't mean you own it, you have to abide by the landlords rules which is usually put in the lease. Mojang is very cringe for doing this though, your landlord comparison was correct but in the wrong way. They are taking a game that was already purchased by hundreds millions of people and adding something many years later that no one likes. That's kind of like having a tenant for so long with a dog then updating the lease after the last one ended and saying no more pets allowed. Cringe as hell.
This is unbelievably dystopian. Many years ago when Microsoft first bought this game, we had our doubts but didn't expect anything too horrible. Now that Microsoft is pushing for complete control, if this isn't addressed, Minecraft could end up as a censor-hellscape like Twitch or RUclips. This isn't for anyone's safety, (almost like something Susan and the rest of her trash executives would say) but no this isn't just RUclips pushing this garbage now it's Java: 1984 Edition. There's so many edgy servers like 2b2t that would get catastrophically impacted if this continues successfully. Gaming is meant to be a frontier of entertainment and fiction, a way of escaping the adversity of the real world to have fun and have a feelgood time. But now that gaming is shoving censorship down people's throats, we can't even have peace to ourselves when we try to build our own communities and hobbies. The richest people in the world from Microsoft would enjoy us becoming drones that we don't question anything. Doesn't that seem similar to an ideology called authoritarianism?
Uncontrolled capitalism, son! It restricts freedom in response to the people.
Jokes aside yeah this is horrifically authoritarian and dystopian
None of this is microsoft. Mojang runs itself with funding from its owner, microsoft. Mojang's banlist rules are severely harsher than Microsoft's. Mojang has been doing this for years on bedrock. If this was a Microsoft decision it would have been made for both versions 8 years ago when Microsoft acquired it.
Stop defending Mojang. You are the reason things like this happen. Mojang did this and they don't have to accept any responsibility because of you.
@@olafowl5678 Who ever it is, the offending party needs to be held accountable.
@@olafowl5678 theres a difference between the mojang that makes the game, the devs and the mojang that dictates what gets done and what is prioritized, the management and its clear who is doing this, the upper management which are usually the ones who communicate with their parent company, microsoft. i defend the devs who took the hate from the controversies the wild update made, they were doing their job, and it wasnt their decision to not give them enough time to make a big update as hyped by pr, the upper management wanted the 2 update schedule, leading to medium updates but hyping them as big ones. what i dont defend is the upper management of mojang which is the main link to microsoft.
We can all still stop this from happening. contact Microsoft and tell them to stop this.
Yeah this system sucks. I've had friends who false report eachother just to see what happens and for the funny. That ended up with one of them getting their entire minecraft banned for a week for "Impersonation". Plus the shadow mutes, those are painful. Can't be appeals and will only go away via "positive chat interaction" (aka spamming numbers simulator until get unmuted).
at least they punish players who abuse the system tho...
Why abuse it tho?
@@glacialvitality Yes, let's start cutting off the hands of thieves, just like the old days.
When someone innocent looses a hand, at least the thieves are also being punished.
I named a llama “ollama bin laden” my friend reported as a joke now I’m banned for 7 days
@@knie1172 that school of though is an old one, rooted in the french revolution, collectivism, and globalism. The people pushing for these changes are the same who think you shouldn't be able to own anything, they are not good people.
Minecraft is supposed to be a sandbox game so having rules is kinda wrong, so I really hate this new "update".Also hackers have all ready taken advantage of this new system as hack clients have add auto report which will automatically report everyone in your lobby they have these bots that copy and paste messages that make the player seem bad
This kind of ban system is what gets you sued.
finnaly someone spoke my words!
@@superfalloutmario9642 But what about the concept of "Our game, Our Rules"?
or alternatively "Because you updated to a Microsoft Account, you now accept these new Terms and Conditions"
@@GameMaker3_5 bullshit
@@GameMaker3_5 yah but they didn’t inform us when they announced the migration about this. They said everything will stay the same and they lied
@@GameMaker3_5 Legally speaking, that may be an issue. Morally, stop defending this evil pollicy!
"This will not affect the minecraft community as much as they say." While you may only have the possibility of getting banned on 1.19+, it will brick EVERY version of minecraft if they get banned. That's the problem. Additionally, mods which do the oppoite of what "no chats reports" is doing is entirely possible. It'd be literally malware, but you can literally get someone's info keys in order to forge false messages and ban them if they download a mod which has the intention of doing so. It's bad for every one involved except the suits.
This is a huge problem, however, I think older versions of Minecraft (1.18 and older,) won't be affected because the chat reporting feature won't exist in those versions.
@@Hagrites you can't be reported on those, but if you get banned on 1.19+ you get banned backwards as well
@@mr.p215 I think It would be like this. You get banned from 1.19 your account loses its premium status that way you are banned in all versions since you cant play any premium servers, you would only be able to play no premium servers
@@TheShinyZoroark_ From what I have seen when you are banned the multiplayer button is just grayed out and you can't press it. So you won't be able to connect to any server at all. Premium or not.
@@mr.p215 but that only applies to 1.19 since 1.18 and below dont have that multiplayer button disabled integrated
Basically can't even late night chat anymore with IRL friends about IRL things on a self hosted SMP without Microsoft possibly interfering... This is a move from Microsoft that does not make any sense. Java became so immensefully successful partly thanks to the community and the freedom Mojang gave us to play the game. Freedom like making your own mods, creating your own servers, skins, building whatever you want, saying whatever you want and doing anything whatever you want really. The chat being censored is a terrible development for Java. In an earlier video I was very positive about the Microsoft migration but if this is the direction they are taking the game, I fear for the worst. And yes, there is an argument to be made that this thing is blown way out of proportion but look at it this way: you currently can do whatever you want in the game and with the new update you *risk* a PERMANENT ONLINE BAN for talking on your OWN SERVER with fellow adult IRL friends for swearing or talking about s3x or alcohol.
Absolutely insane.
Imagine if your phone blocked you from texting adult topics to your friends. Or if your internet provider shuts down your service for visiting non family friendly sites.
None of this is microsoft. Mojang runs itself with funding from its owner, microsoft. Mojang's banlist rules are severely harsher than Microsoft's. Mojang has been doing this for years on bedrock. If this was a Microsoft decision it would have been made for both versions 8 years ago when Microsoft acquired it.
Stop defending Mojang. You are the reason things like this happen. Mojang did this and they don't have to accept any responsibility because of you.
@@olafowl5678 Are you dumb? My entire comment is based on the fact that this system is a bad idea.
@@olafowl5678 Microsoft has repeatedly embraced harsh ban rules and has talked of cross platform banning for "the safety of the kids". This pressure is coming from MS
@@Nick-ue7iw no it's not stupid. The Mojang devs themselves confirmed that Microsoft has no say and that all mc decisions are made by MOJANG. You don't know what you're talking about so just shut your mouth.
"adults that can drink, smash, vote, go to war for their country, and yet cannot talk about any of those over the worlds favorite block game"
4:15
Thank you for raising awareness man I really hope Microsoft notices their mistake without the community spamming the logs with bots and false reason to prevent this. If you're reading this, remember to like the video, it helps :> have a great day, Minecraft is great, it has to stay like that.
Yeah they are even making hack clients on 2b2t to exploit it
Microsoft deserves all the bad things that could happen to this
I'm pretty sure microsoft are the ones pushing it.
Yo your here too
@@0h_hey944 of course :>
Absolute jokes, as an adult (befriended with multiple army vets that I met on Minecraft multiplayer) it's embarrassing. Why would you take away one of the ONLY reasons why people like us always stuck with this game? Sure I get that minecraft also has a younger playerbase, but that shouldn't be the reason why you'd be able to get banned. Imagine getting banned on the only game you still play for saying 'lol fuck this'. Absolute idiocy
And to add to your argument, servers themselves already have the ability to ban problematic players. I know Mojang (probably) has good intentions with this, and I commemorate them for that, but I think they need to stay out of this one. The community can handle itself here.
people must burn woke activists forevr
@@Gogglesofkrome Yeah, I see what you mean. Honestly, Mojang should've stayed independent. One Microsoft bought them out, in came the microtransactions, the account migrations, and heavy censorship that always happens with stuff like this. Mojang knew exactly how Microsoft works, and they shouldn't have taken that deal if they wanted to have their "100-year game" like they've always said they did. With this new report system in place, I unfortunately don't see a great future for Minecraft. Thanks politics, you've done us "well" as always!
@@khmer06 With the current zeitgeist being as it is, the moment Notch felt it was necessary to sell his way into retirement was the moment this became inevitable. Even if it wasn't microsoft, this nightmare would have inevitably wormed its way into the company through people aligning to the driving interest groups of our day, and pushed for the very same changes that we see now
@@Gogglesofkrome Good point. I suppose this is just a problem with society itself isn't it...
Word by word by what you said, these rules are so hard not to break, I remember breaking these rules
1. Profanity - Let's face it pretty much everyone has done this
2. Sexual Talk or Jokes - I've actually done this before but just in private servers with my friends
3. Harm or Self-Harm - I've used this and I would have been banned if this was reported as it's out of context, i remember playing bedwars with a teammates, saying someone is coming at my base, I'm going to kill myself, the way i meant it was that I wanted to die in the bedwars to revive at my base and kill the person trying to break our bed, still out of context it would have sounded wrong
Also it's not mojang, it's microsoft, mojang devs are doing what microsoft tells them to do, I still miss the era before 2014 where microsoft didn't own minecraft we were doing so well
harm or selfharm is epic, immagine you are some emo-kid and you type :"guys i feel like killing myself" and mojang bans you
ahahahahahahahahhaaha
I haven't broken any of these rules for sure, I'm not kidding. But still I could be banned for writing JAPAN.
@@cactus6_05 Oh and i've written Japan as well, microsoft would defitnetly not want me in this community 🥲
Honestly, we don't know whether it's Mojang, Microsoft, or both. I think it's better to treat them as a monolith. We can't just blame Microsoft for everything bad that happens with the game, and praise Mojang for everything good that happens.
@@venmis137 yep. People have to stop thanking Mojang for all the good, but blaming Microsoft for all the bad. It’s not like one is evil and the other is perfect. Mojang is capable of making bad decisions.
So much for 100 years, Microsoft.
What about 100 years?
I don't remember that part...
(or was that the age requirement?)
@@GameMaker3_5 they said they would support and update the game for 100 years, meaning that the game would only get discontinued in 2109
@@Victor_Graves you really think they will not update it in the next ten years? I can not argue much about your opinion if you really think that but I just think you are wrong. I think realistically minecraft is going to be doing well in the next 10 years.
@@auveus5036 I hope so. Recent trends have made me concerned for the future of the game, but Minecraft has faltered before. I just hope this problem doesn't become permanent.
@@auveus5036 Minecraft is so big at this point i dont think it will truly die at any point. The worst that could happen is it would fall into the background for a while.
In my personal opinion, this is an absolutely abhorrent decision on Microsoft's end. They ignore version parity but add this. Java's status quo has functioned perfectly for the past decade, it's unbelievable that they are implementing this now, when they could have added it when they first bought out Mojang. This does nothing but hurt their reputation, and, if they end up using bots or outsourcing their moderation (which they almost certainly will) their community. Some players have gotten banned from singleplayer itself due to an online ban on Xbox and Nintendo Switch versions of the game. What if they bring that to java? I don't think that "Well, most people are gonna be fine cause they are playing on older versions" is a reasonable defense either, as the game updates, this is going to be the version people need to update to for new features, without that servers will get more stale much faster. Overall good video, far more relaxed than most others on the topic, but I just don't like what this may entail for the future of the game.
"They ignore version parity but add this" that not more of Mojang's job? The people who develop the game itself.
Microsoft are supposedly just making them implement this and by their own means. The people who... Well I have no idea what Microsoft really does.
Its shit, and I want it removed, but as of now I'm not even going to bother checking out new Minecraft versions.
I'm probably gonna stick to 1.19, and a lot of other people probably will too. It'll be a version of the game that probably keeps getting modded support well after it becomes outdated. As a result, it will likely be supplied with tons of new content for years in the future by the modding community. I wish it wouldn't come to this, but I kinda think it will. Mojang has been very clear that this is what they are going to do, and they aren't going to stop implementing it. It's a feature that will get added to the game, and regardless of whether it's good or not, we can't do anything about that, and we just have to accept it. I'm ready to see all the backporting mods for 1.19. If Microsoft really wants to enforce this, I guess they'll have to contend with a resilient community. Maybe they'll try banning older versions like they did with Bedrock, but that's not gonna work. They've supplied both the game files and a server JAR for every older version of the game, and there's no way they can remove them all from circulation without going full 1984. And even if big companies have a lot of control, they can only go so far before it's unfeasible even for them. The future of the game will be in the community's user-generated Java Edition content. And, I guess the newer versions will still exist... but they will be filled with too much fear of being banned.
"Java's status quo has functioned perfectly for the past decade, it's unbelievable that they are implementing this now, when they could have added it when they first bought out Mojang."
Nah they had the EULA to worry about too. Funny how they only announce this after the migration deadline so that people who knew this shit would be coming would have to eat shit anyways if they wanted to keep the game.
@@luviana_ You can still be reported on 1.19 too, the chat signing was added in that version but only used until 1.19.1. Stay on 1.18. or 1.16 since 1.18 also added back the snooper system which is kind of suspicious.
they don't care. all they see is dollar signs.
man I miss old minecraft. I really do
we all do
Apparently some Polish people have like Minecraft Classic/Alpha servers and communities still running to this day through Betacraft...
me too bro...
Good times in 1.14
Time for offline-mode=true and a mod to handle authentication via TLS client certificates. Global bans won't be an issue if we use public key cryptography to bypass M$ auth servers. Just make sure you don't lose your private key and you won't be impersonated.
This is only viable if Forge and Fabric implement Minecraft over TLS though.
Yes, torrenting is the only real solution.
authlib-injector and a self-hosted authentication server, and you're set.
i see another touhou enjoyer, very cultured indeed.
I swear ima get banned the first day this is put out. I say so many things to friends that could be considered "harassment" without the context of knowing we are friends and do it all of the time. I am glad it is only on 1.19.1. Very informal and well-made video! Enjoy your break from youtube!!
so basically don't play multiplayer on 1.19+ ever, because previous versions don't have cryptographic signatures attached to each message, thus you can't be reported. If you're on 1.19+ and you get banned, microsoft can blacklist you from their authentication servers, which aren't version specific I believe.
What I'm the most scared of is the possibility that this report/ban system could turn Minecraft into what is essentially the video game version of RUclips. If you don't know what I mean by this, I'm talking how RUclips uses AI for handling most channel/buisness-related issues; a system that tends to be faulty and make mistakes that far too often cost innocent creators who did nothing wrong. If Mojang takes the AI route with this, it may land Minecraft and the company as a whole in a controversy that could put a permanent stain on their business. I personally am especially passionate about this as a couple of years ago, I was banned from Hypixel by their Watchdog anti-cheat for a whole year due to a frustrating "in-air player suspension glitch" caused by our McDonald's-quality internet and the large number of players on the server. After making an appeal and a lengthy forum post, Hypixel basically pulled a RUclips on me, and I was forced to wait out the YEAR-LONG ban. My point is - let's all pray that Mojang doesn't become the next RUclips here; for the game's, the community's, and Mojang's own sake...
This is the time we try and prove her Point against Microsoft if we don't do this now things will get you like Roblox and RUclips
Im not sure if i can believe you here. I have seen people get false banned for something really stupid multiple times now, but for whatever reason, they all had broken some major rules beforehand. So while watchdog may have banned you for a year for the flying glitch, that must have been ur 3rd ban and u were already flagged for it, thee reason just didnt seem to beother them anymore. Thats my experience but ive got no clue if im right about this.
@@Willimann I agree with you
@@Willimann Aside from I guess a few curse words in private housing, (still only warrants a mute though...) I've never really broken their rules for fear of this very thing happening. If this is supposedly my 3rd ban, that means the other two must have happened during times that I wasn't even playing, which honestly just goes to show how much more messed up their Watchdog is if it's litterally just going trigger happy on offline players at this point.
EDIT: I know sometimes I don't really pay enough attention to what I'm doing or I don't exactly have the best memory, so I may have really done something to piss off the anti-cheat in the past up to that point, idk.
@Khmer06 Oh I fully expect microsoft will do this, corporations hate bad press so they will do anything to avoid the dreaded media headline "why wont microsoft do something about this player saying racial slurs?? does this mean they support bigotry?!".
They, just like youtube, will get the AI moderators out and arm them with a blunderbuss.
“If you haven’t done anything wrong you shouldn’t be worried about being banned” has the exact same energy as “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.”
I can almost understand this system for realms, but not for the rest of multiplayer. I mean, seriously, if you're going to make us pay for our own servers, then we should be able to do what we want on them.
Nah, it makes even less sense for realms. Realms are servers hosted by individuals, i use realms alot, to play with my friends.
You know how quickly my entire realms server is getting banned?
We all talk sh!t constantly, and we all know we are just joking, but some Random moderator doesnt know that, its stupid as hell!
@@gibs1919 Oh wait really? I always thought realms were hosted by Mojang. That's even dumber then.
You can host a multiplayer server without paying anyone, actually. It's Realms that requires payment.
I believe that 1.8 client is still affected. It is because when you are connecting to the server, your client will send a request to the session server for authentication. I believe that when you’re account is banned from Minecraft, you will not be able to authenticate with the session server, which mean you will get failed to authenticate error when you’re connecting to any server which is using online mode
Server owners will just have to set up their own authentication system via mods. Like having their own account system along with TLS client certificates. 2B2T may try this out first if they ever update.
This may be true; I mostly meant that if you play 1.8 exclusively, you can't be reported since, well, there's no 1.8 report system
@@mcbyt the only future problem I can see in this, is due to hypixel having attempts to update and make compatible of other versions, (1.8 being able to play with 1.9 as a example) could eventually lead to them even updating to 1.19. However I doubt this will be a full problem at any point, it's just a possibility.
@@mcbyt if you can play on hypixel with 1.19, that means you can be reported
@@Rugratboy Honestly hope Hypixel decide to make a stand and refuse to update the server to be compatable with any version older than 1.19. Since the report system will only be available with the next 1.19.x version
Community is at war against the tyranny of microsoft.
Satya Nadella, to be more specific, he's the CEO of Microsoft
@@thedoggyshowtv What ever happened to Bill Gates? I thought he was in charge.
@@kellmedd4925 I Googled and this popped up
"During his career at Microsoft, Gates held the positions of chairman, chief executive officer (CEO), president and chief software architect, while also being the largest individual shareholder until May 2014. He was a major entrepreneur of the microcomputer revolution of the 1970s and 1980s. Seattle, Washington, U.S."
@@kellmedd4925 He stepped down a while ago.
@@mellohi6175 1.16 wasn't such a big update compared to 1.17. Really.
i was thinking about how they dont take context into account and TommyInnit is 100% gonna get banned even tho he clearly has no intentions of anything bad
Yep! Say goodbye to MC creators with actual personality and say hello to the new RUclips-style hyper-monitoring of Minecraft's playerbase. Also, if you're gonna bring up TommyInnit, you may as well through the entire Dream SMP in there as well, so yeah...
This is why I play only indie games now. The moment one of those huge soulless companies get their greedy little hands on an actually good game, it is doomed to fall apart.
I Personally do not care how "effective" a report would be.
I do not care if they promise it will be fine I don't care if it actually will be fine,
this is stupid. Absolutely loathsomely stupid, and so out of touch with their own community that it pisses me off just thinking about it
This does not need to exist, it has not for over 10 years, and things have been and will continue to be fine without it. it's Microsoft sticking their nose in places they have no right to be in.
The thing with bedrock is that you can make 1000 accounts with just buying it once
But every time u want a new acc in Java u need to pay
How is that a thing for Bedrock? And why are people complaining they need to buy a new account just to play the game after they've been banned? I'm not a Bedrock player myself
@@dragoneyr1632 okay so if you just download bedrock then make a new Microsoft account you can play for free and you can even make another one as an alt and another one and another one
But java doesn't let u do that
This kind of thing has been happening for some time, people creating their own servers to escape the unfair rules of corporations
I feel like there's a question we're forgetting though, and I think it's a really important one. With these mods to effectively make chat-reporting useless in 1.19.1 and all future versions, is there a chance Microsoft may go after the creators of these mods, to stop them from removing chat-reporting?
Furthermore, what if they sue Curseforge or TLauncher, the go-to launchers for Minecraft because of the minecraft mods abilities to remove chat reporting, but also add horror mods, etc? Since some mods like Lycanite Mobs or just in general the entirety of the RLCraft modpack, or other modpacks because they have content that may not be suited for younger audiences?
Of course I may be wrong, but then again it's interesting to think about since people have been talking about the 'no chat reporting' mod, that eventually it has to grab Microsoft's attention, right? Along with the entire modding scene. Makes me wonder if we'll have a Minecraft modding purge.
You're half wrong, they'll remove all mods and introduce microtransactions into java 😀
@@momchilkalestrov8707 If that is real, I am dying.
@@crossoverworlds2678 that will be our que to ditch mc and play on cracked clients that let us add mods.
this should be a togglable feature for server owners so u cant report on anarchy servers
I hate this too, but something about this even more is that we spent $30 (USD) to get Minecraft. If I spent $30 to play a game and then I get banned? Money, gone? They should at least give you a refund or something. It's stupid as hell. Thank you man for talking about this.
To be fair, you can still play singleplayer. You can also play on servers that circumvent going through any official channels.
@@KidPrarchord95 then the game becomes as good as a pirate copy, a pirate copy that you paid for and cant even play on big servers nor realms, lol
@@gebrelius7442 Pretty much. Hope that this starts getting us some bigger cracked servers.
@@KidPrarchord95 yea but the biggest issue is the amount of hackers
@@gebrelius7442 Theoretically, it shouldn't be too big of an issue. Anti-cheat plugins and IP-bans are always an option.
They should make chat mutes not ban from multiplayer
Agreed. Ideally neither of them, but I'd much rather wait out a 24 hr chat mute than a permanent ban. If I do get permanently banned tho, that's it. I'll go back to playing cracked cause Microshit doesn't deserve my money.
@@mayravixx25 They don't deserve it... twice.
@German Empire single player bans only applies to bedrock
@@ayanihusYT for now
I think that the other thing you're missing is that Microsoft and Mojang or trying to moderate servers which day don't own. On Minecraft realms and Mojang partnered servers I could see this actually working and being well but it's not right on Cell posted servers where small groups of private friends play or other servers have their own rules as I don't think Minecraft has the justification to try to enforce rules on servers they don't own because every server has a different community and a different vibe. Is not just to limit the serious things but it's also Minecraft extending its reach and control where they shouldn't in Minecraft own trailer they say that Minecraft is a place where anyone can do anything.
If this feature is added then it should only be on Minecraft realms and servers which specifically opt into this feature. If you get banned from Minecraft you should only be banned from Realms and those servers which opted into the future. I think this is a pretty clear-cut case of Minecraft trying to appeal to family-friendly audience is it completely neglecting the rest of their player base being safe for children. If you really want to do that did you just extend Terror controls instead of an approaching on the players right to say whatever they want on self hosted servers.
Completely removed it for good
The report system is so much and can cause a lot of problems especially for servers like 2b2t
Think of the possibilities though. You could join a server and set up a public puppy mill. Produce loads of puppies then set them on fire. People will get mad and start hating on you. Then you report them and they get banned!
“The oldest anarchy server in Minecraft”
Would like to say here, According to reports, 2B2T is being flooded with report spamming bots and scripts banning random people who join the server right now.
Isnt it 1.19.1 only though?
Mojang isn't in control, this kind of "familly friendly" features are always and always were pure Microsoft idea, and they want to enforce it, won't let Mojang stand in their way
Yea no, Mojang directly allowed this as all Microsoft really does is the financing of Minecraft.
@@PeruvianPotato they didn't have any choice, just like for the migration (just look how the migration videos are so self-aware)
ANd the acc migration?? How does that work??
@@309electronics5 account migration is obviously a thing microsoft forced them to do as well, because microsoft wants to be in control and by having everyone onto microsoft accounts, they are in control more than ever and they're showing it with their banhammer
6:13 as far as I understood, you can be banned even if you're on 1.8 for example, if the server is running on 1.19.1 and the person reporting you is also playing on 1.19.1.
That's plausible, since they don't need to update your game to ban you. They can simply blacklist you from the authentication servers.
what about hypixel as it is on 1.8.9
@@sedwars3616 Hypixel is running on 1.12 as far as I know (for performance reasons). So it won't affect hypixel players yet.
@@Twoneight ah ok
so basically don't play on 1.19 ever because previous versions don't have cryptographic signatures attached to each message.
If you're banned, you cannot join any servers on older versions since the auth servers straight up block you.
This was my biggest concern ever since Mojang was acquired by Microsoft. Account integration with Xbox Live was bound to happen and that meant the game falling under Xbox's player conduct rules, which has always been notorious for leading moderators being very ban happy over arbitrary things in the most scattershot manner. Worst thing about it is despite the outcry from gamers from other games Microsoft never truly budged (because they believe child safety is paramount over all else), and the positive PR from the Xbox Game Pass drowning out any problems under the surface isn't helping.
If they go forward with this system is going to be a rude awakening for a lot of naive players who thought Minecraft being under M$ ownership will be a good thing.
your concernst mean jack thou,
its the swedes ruining the game, not the murricans.
swedes are notorius for being social justice warriors and lgbtq+ veterans.
Havent you watched minecon? that one blonde chick sounded like she had a mental breakdown.
Mojang is just as equally to blame considering they allowed this to happen and their ban criteria is much more strict compared to Microsoft's.
Video games in this era, even the internet (and sadly, the world) in general, have become so infantilized to a point where I can't even tell if I'm living in a cartoon or an actual planet with living, breathing people. This mindset is destroying everything I had nostalgia of.
jarvis ban that player for 3 days because he said "fuck"
I think it's pretty clear that the old Minecraft we all know and love has been dead ever since Microsoft bought the game. Every version after 1.8 has a clearly different tone when compared to prior versions. Hell, they had an entire update (1.12, world of color) dedicated to remaking the palette to look more colorful and child friendly. Judging by the size of the recent updates and how little actual gameplay content they add (not counting technical changes), it's pretty clear that these new updates have to go through a bunch of marketing approvals which filters a lot of content.
An even bigger issue, is that the content they add nowadays doesn't seem to have much thought put into it to make it fit the game and connect it with other already existing game content. They're just adding random content for the sake of wowing young impressionable players, but when you go ahead and play with the content in survival, it just feels empty and way too easy (see: ancient cities and the warden, great concept but terribly executed). Even the old secret friday updates that were specifically designed to add random shit didn't have this issue, because the devs actually played their own game in survival mode.
Their focus has obviously shifted from a teenage/adult audience to a kid audience. I don't blame them, i mean it's the obvious thing to do seeing how popular the game is, but it's just sad seeing them ignore their original playerbase. What we need to do now is move on and start our own line of updates that maintain the feel of the pre-microsoft updates, similar to that Better Than Adventure mod.
how are ancient cities terribly executed?
@@flowcharts7987 Way too easy in hard mode. You can swoop down with an elytra, loot chests, and fly away without ever being in danger due to most "loot rooms" not having roofs. You can also straight up run through an ancient city completely naked with just an axe to break the chests. By the time the sculk shriekers finish their shrieking animation and the warden finishes its "crawling out" animation, you're already 30 blocks away and no longer in danger. It completely ignores how you're supposed to beat it (sneaking around).
I get that it's a sandbox game, so it shouldn't be too restrictive, but that doesn't mean there should be NO restrictions at all. When that happens, you get super easy survival gameplay like this.
FINALLY SOMEONE RECOGNIZES BTA!!!!!
If we are going to start making a community mod of minecraft (for a later version) then 1.11 sounds like the version to go to, but 1.8 could also work.
@@SnrubSource I disagree, of course it's going to be easy for very skilled players, but for others it won't be. Most people looting caves and ancient cities don't have elytras yet. Your running away stragety can easily summon another warden again when you're far enouch away as well. And what if you trigger the warden in a tight space? I think that the darkness effect is very very disorienting and makes running a good distance difficult unless you already have a set path.
In my opinion, the warden is one of the scariest mobs ever, I was blown away when I saw it and was obliterated by it my first time. It took me a while to understand the wardens attacks and how it works.
The warden is by no means easy
@@flowcharts7987 it's not about skill, literally just run, break the chest, grab the items, and run in a different direction
me about to get banned permanently from minecraft for explaining to my friend why the earth is a cube.
To avoid this problem just avoid chatting in minecraft
or you can talk in dms such as discord
And anachy severs will be ruined such as 2b2t
this can also lead into popular youtubers getting targetted or false reported and most youtubers do swear a lot
Man you gotta love the fact that i can play minecraft on the 360 (physical copy) without all this bs.
Just the classic 1.9 tutorial world, regular worlds and all kinds of multiplayer fun to be had in splitscreen on 1.9
The first release canidate took away many controversial rules and further explained the ones that were more vague. (Basicallly Mojang listened)
first rule of negoatiation: start with something unreasonable. they are "compromising" to seem like the good guys. make no mistake, they are not the good guys.
They'll be back. They always come back.
@@anotheraggieburneraccount aren't the bad guys Microsoft
if Microsoft listened theyd drop the entire concept
It's almost like companies forcing their consumers to act in accordance to their (the company's) personal beliefs is a BAD idea.
As someone who plays Roblox, a corporation trying to moderate a big player base almost always ends up with the innocent getting destroyed and the guilty bypassing it.
Great, nice to know the world I've spent YEARS on might get me banned because I used some colorful language while venting into a book, alone, on my world. *Yay.*
Nice to know that pretty soon not even video games will help alleviate all the shit I've been feeling...
That literally just happened to me, I got hit with the 7 day "hate speech" ban for writing funny shit in my own book that nobody else could see. Wtf kind of dumb ai spying shit is that. No fun allowed
It's like the embodiment of cancel culture has moved and ruled over Mojang, creating this awful monstrosity of an update
I'm part of a private building server. New updates bring new blocks, so it's super important that we're on the newest version. We're all over 18 and use whatever language we want. We joke with dark humor, and other things too. It's all within our server rules. We've had no issues moderating our own server within our own rule set. If you don't like what content our server outputs, it's as simple as don't join.
The fact that I could have all online rights stripped away from me for acting in a way my server allows, is absolutely ludicrous.
And even MORE so, the fact that if I slip up on accident on a server that has NOTHING to do with the server I've helped build and pay for, can get me globally banned from my OWN server with it's OWN set of rules is FAR WORSE!
If no chat reports mod doesn’t end up working, I have already developed a mod for my server that bridges minecraft chat over IRC. I have also make a small spigot plugin to make sure players don’t speak without it. This would be impossible for big servers but with the closed community I have it will be just fine if it ends up needing to be used.
Would you share the plugin and mod with us?
@@martimking1craft I’m going to open source it and list it on forge if Microsoft actually ends up combating the anti chat signing mods when 1.19.1 comes out. if that ends up being the case I will respond here
3:17 Even if it is only used as a "last resort for seriously bad people", what about servers that want to allow those things? People who don't want to be exposed to it don't have to join those servers.
I got banned for testing what was censored. On my realm. That i pay for.
Luckily i emailed the shit outta them and they lifted it
Really?! I cannot wait to see this game go up in flames.
We need more of the community to make vids like this one, I hope they get rid of this, it's stupid and restricts freedom.
At this rate, Minecraft would fall due to this update since people will abuse this and lead to false ban and the game won't be played that people buy the game if ban will apply for single player
I knew Microsoft buying Mojang was a bad idea.
7:07 Mods? Yep, I expected that, even thinked about making my own.
And if Mojang isn't going to stop we can take a step further - make servers requiere this type of mod to play.
Like some servers requiere you to use badlion client for antycheat.
Time for a server mod that uses TLS client certificates for authentication instead of a Microsoft session token.
The sad thing is, this isn't a mojang decision. This is purely a Microsoft decision. Mojang's hands are tied here.
They did make blacklisted servers be inaccessible in earlier versions too except you'd get a Network is unreachable message which was quite unreliable tho and it would sometimes still let you in. The only way they can try to enforce such things in earlier versions (outside of literally changing the jars themselves) is just to not authenticate people in those older versions. But because of the older versions not having signiatures it's impossible for them to verify it and as such all reports on those older versions are invalid
I just witnessed this man recover form getting his bed destroyed early game straight to victory....
kinda crazy widdit sometimes
Nothing is stopping Microsoft from removing access to older Minecraft: Java Edition versions in the default launcher.
Yes, and that's a big issue, but before that happens maybe someone should make an archive of all the versions. I know this could be considered piracy, but let's be honest- what Microsoft is doing is basically theft.
I will hate microsoft and download manjaro linux if this happens
I don't wanna use 1.19 pvp
i guess a 100 year game is no longer part of the plan
They mustve realized it was too much work lmao
the EULA ban for servers only went into effect in 1.9.3 and was rolled back the same day in 1.9.4 because of the backlash.
Your writing and delivery is amazing, keep it up
Love that Mojang can permanently disable a feature on a product I purchased from them if I call my friend a dick in a private server hosted entirely by us without their involvement.
Very fair and reasonable.
Microsoft invented this bs idea not mojang
@@yellowmarshmellowpuffnob6922 True, true. my b.
Imagine you get griefed, you curse the griefer out, then you get perm banned from multiplayer servers for profanity
This is the start of the end of minecraft this is a complete disaster minecraft doesn't need this reporting moderation servers were doing fine without it.
People gonna spam so many reports it breaks i can imagine logging into hypixel and someone has a bot in every lobby reporting every message :/
Hey man, i have recently being trying to download this texture pack! It looks awesome and i really want to try it, though thorugh the google drive download it doesn't seem to be working, wouldn't I have to extract the file? or shouldn't i be able to open it up and look at the sub folders! I have been trying and I may have possibly downloaded it wrong, could you possibly make a video on how to get hte pack? or at least reply and give me some details? I would really appreciate it
If it's the .7z, you need to extract it into a folder and then put the folder in .minecraft/resourcepacks
@@mcbyt ty!
To be fair in the release candidate they did fix some of the problems, for example profanity is no longer a category, and drugs and alcohol now explicitly states that it only applies to illegal drugs and underage drinking but it still seems like a bad thing in my opinion as this is probably reviewed by Microsoft and not Mojang. Also, in my opinion, the feature should be toggleable by individual servers instead of banning people at auth level.
I think Mojang will add a toggle to disabled it.I hope 🤞
Illegal where? Underage where? Different countries have different rules. In the USA you can't drink if you're under 21. That's pretty high compared to most other countries.
That's a start, but I believe more can be done to improve the system if they insist on keeping it.
Just today my account on minecraft bedrock just got banned, and i had no idea how i got banned like i issued this to mojang and prolly this is just a accident bans or whatsoever, until i opened my twitter and saw the hastags that mojang banning many players. It's like ban wave and, i literally don't know what's happening :(
I have a server with my adult friends... I being the owner would like to have the settings on this. Now with this update, I can't imagine how frustrating this is going to get
let's just not report people AT ALL to boycott this system
If they would just make it an opt-in system for servers rather than forcing it upon them, it would deflate the majority of the bad will it's generated. Servers are their own communities and should have the autonomy to decide what standards they find acceptable, not have it dictated for them.
Yeah and then servers in your list could indicate if they opted in or not
i knew its not going to get any better when they removed hello russia from the splash text. they removed notch from splashes for his tweets but ended up making an act of discrimination themselves
I've also heard if you type anything that starts with the first three letters in NIGht then you would be warned or banned.
Honestly hopefully they fix it to where if online/realms/servers these bans would be possible and not solo worlds or just have a world option to toggle the feature on and off. preventing auto bans.
7:11 In the new patch, they effectively want to ban you from using it.
This makes sense everytime I win in bedwars I get banned for hacking even tho I am
oh
The other thing I’m worried about that isn’t context is typos. I don’t think I need to explain how this can happen, but if someone’s just chatting with their friend and makes a typo then gets banned, that worries me a lot.
bro what skybox is that? I love that aesthetic so much!
also, cool video :D
the original is made by cellsaver but i can't find the pack he put it in, i have it in my pack MCBPC V3 (download on my channel)
and thank you
Been playing minecraft for 11 years, my little brother's been playing for 7. I have to say that after all this time that I no longer open minecraft every week, I loved this game but slowly I've been losing my love for it. I showed my brother minecraft for the first time when he was 4 years old, he grew up on it and now he is seeing it turn to shit. The worst part for me is that this game is what I used to bond with my brother, we have a big age gap. I'm grown woman and this kid is just now leaving elementary school (he is 11 for the uk people.) This was an easy way for me to connect to him but now I don't want to play this game more than once a month.
You're completely wrong on this not effecting players on older versions. Your ban blocks you from the session server meaning as long as you're on the account you got banned on, you literally cannot join servers (and yes, servers that were blocked by Mojang are blocked on all versions)
The ban may block you from the session server (not entirely sure) but chat messages sent on clients/servers of older versions can't be reported, since there is no report system until 1.19.1. And yeah, servers now are blocked on all versions but originally it was just 1.9+, which is why some servers that got blocked advised players to stay on 1.8 and earlier
@@mcbyt well you might want to correct that because I feel like saying "you're completely safe on older versions" is slightly misleading
@@Mirtual Yeah, I poorly phrased it for sure
@@mcbyt good video regardless!
1.19.1: drops
*Collective Consciousness plays*
Players: oh no
agree, the fact that snooper settings will alway be active, when they used to be optional. Mojang has lost some of its soul along the way over to microsoft, sadly. it hurts to see unlimited creativity and freedom not be appropriate anymore to describe minecraft as a game and place to be anymore
On bedrock I got banned for a full week for saying im going to microwave you to a friend
Please Mojang have Elon Musk buy you out so he can add free speech back into the game.
That would mean Elon would be buying Microsoft. I wouldn't mind that actually with how dogshit windows 11 is.
Ojalá
Elon Musk is worse.
@@dsihacks How, please give an example, with a citation please.
@@mayravixx25 Unless he buys it *from* Microsoft.
Players need to do something drastic, and fast. Because one something like this is implemented, it's not going to be removed unless Microsoft faces consequences. We can band together and cause significant financial losses for Microsoft by boycotting their products or something.
Not only the online bans, this affects the gameplay a bit. This guy on reddit wanted to name his Elytra "Mile high club" and it got censored, he tried to name it something else, got censored, it lost him like 20 levels due to all of the enchants on it. Well, I guess i'm moving over to Terraria now.
It's ridiculous
Let's riot
Just wait until one of the Minecraft devs gets banned lol
yo what is the texturepack called? that sky overlay looks dope af
MCBPC V3 :) it's originally from a cellsaver pack but i couldn't find the source
You know how there is that one person who ONLY plays on modded 1.12.2? My prediction is that the same thing will happen with 1.18.2 servers and the modding community unless mojang reverts this
I am very disappointed that Mojang so far seems to not be listening to the fan base about this so far. I always just play the latest version so I can always try out and use new features as I am a survival player mainly. We are pretty much almost losing freedom of speech in Minecraft because of this. Not only that but some random guy could just report a player because they lost a game of bedwars or skywars to them and get away with it.I know when it comes to single player survival I probably won’t have much to worry about on getting banned but I think I'm start to train myself to stay away from the "flashy" new updates so I won’t have to worry about this much anymore specially when I go on servers.
Minecraft is gonna end up like RUclips, slowly going from being a platform for adults to catering for kids. I think a better, but not perfect solution would be to mute people like Hypixel does. But most of the time you can just ignore it and deal with it
kids? more like oppressed snowflakes
I feel like the main problem is that due to all the attention, methods to get around it will be more widespread which will lead to them not being able to do anything about the worst things people can do.
Damn your hella good with commentary