We can see em' coming from a mile away. "Why didn't you just move the plumbing?" "You should have just notched the baseboard" and guys.. THERE IS NO LEAK 😂 that’s a drop of water from the line that made it through during install. We tested and checked everything 👊🏼 First, notching the baseboard. We'll be honest, we just don't think it looks as good. A notched leg against the wall over the base looks way cleaner than a baseboard notch. Now you're fooling with caulk and paint, rough edges that you might be able to see. If that's how you do it that's great! But we think this looks pretty sharp and more custom. Second, moving the plumbing. Since the vanities took so long to be delivered, we went ahead and finished the bathrooms, including painting the walls. We didn't feel like cutting into our pretty much finished bathroom to move some plumbing 3/4 of a inch. In this old house, cutting the walls, patching drywall, re-painting and moving plumbing would have been MUCH more difficult than doing what we did here, although we definitely considered it.
Really appreciate how you explain the reasons why you do things the way you do. It really helps others to think outside of how they would first approach a job. Great channel!
Those are tough decisions. I agree on leaving the baseboards alone. I faced a similar situation with the drain and water lines on a recent bathroom remodel. Finished putting up the new drywall and noticed the drain and one of the water lines needed moved up. It was frustrating but I ended up cutting into the wall moving them and then patched it up. I did seriously consider cutting the shelf.
It’s all good Paul, but consider using a hole for your p trap jigs. Two holes and connect them to a racetrack oval. Still great job on keeping things moving forward.
Everyone wants to be an armchair quarterback, 😂🤪🙃 y'all rock. And give me more to think about each time I think about starting a new project. I might actually get to do some physical work at some point, but I keep learning new things and having to revise my plan of attack, 🤣🤣🤣.
The attention to detail and willingness to go the extra mile for the fine details is just unreal. Truly the difference between you fellas and the rest of the guys out there. Much love to you all!
A tip for drilling a huge hole like that 3" is drill the guide hole first with a bit the same size as your mandril, then use the hole saw bit in reverse. This will score the wood and create a channel or kerf that gives the hole saw a place to stay put and it wont bite or jump because it's in reverse. Then put the drill in forward and finish half the cut and do the same from the other side!
or better yet dont pre cut a 3 inch hole in a scrap piece of ply wood clamp it in place, get rid of the center drill bit and use the plywood as a guide with that 3 inch hole already cut. leaves almost no tear out and loses the risk of that hole saw walking on you
@@smokecreekstudio7320 yeah I had to do this with drilling out a deadbolt lock from 1 in to 2 in on my door. there was no other way to do it plus it was a metal door
This Father and Son Duo is great! Loved it when Jordan says “check out this cool move Dad!” Paul says that’s cool bub but your turning it the wrong way! Lol! Love it!
@@daxmas625 that is the Golden Rule! I’ve been turning wrenches for about 10 years now could not tell you how many people can’t wrap there head around that! Lol
@@StudPack yep! No shame there, the fastener was tightening towards you, not away from you, remembering to flip the direction of rotation takes some conscious effort!
All old men couldn't help but giggle on that one. Jordan, we all made the mistake a "few" times when we were learning or were worn out and couldn't think straight.
It's so refreshing to finally have a channel on RUclips that does things the right way, and explain WHY it's done that way. Too often, we get DIYers and even professionals that hack things up, putting mascara on a pig. This leads people to do the same, and only expect the same from their contractors and subs. Those of us who take pride in our work, and the workmanship, appreciate you both demonstrating why things take the time and energy, and the cost, to do it right the first time. As always, fantastic job, y'all! "Cordless tools with excellent dust collection", huh? I foresee a LOT of green/black, and red/black tools in the future for Paul and Jordan! You won't go wrong either way, gentlemen!
Great job leveling and customizing for all the plumbing. One thing I would have done to the big vanity is install a small lip, perhaps 1.5 inch tall around the P trap to keep any items from falling into the opening.
As usual, nice work. Personally, I would've opened the wall and adjusted the plumbing rather than cutting up the vanity. If possible, I suggest measuring all this stuff prior to finishing the walls. If you didn't have the vanity, its description on a website (retailer or manufacturer) or a display model should have had been available to find the dimensions. I don't care for plumbing to cut into cabinets because I don't think it looks as nice and stuff will fall through the hole. BTW, I wish you had showed the drawers working. Good tips on the silicon caulk! Always use silicon in wet areas and never in places that need painting. Edit: I didn't see your comment about this before posting, but my point on finding dims still applies.
I am impressed with your vast knowledge and skill set. I was impressed with the crescent wrench trick, and I thought I invented it lol. One trick I learned with the escutcheons is to start them backwards, bend the teeth slightly. Then turn them around and they don’t fight you. I really enjoy the channel.
We purchased a pre built vanity from a Home Store and went from a 24" vanity to a 36" vanity, which caused a problem with a normal P trap to work. After several trips to different hardware stores we found a flexible rubber P Trap called Simple Drain which saved the day. Thanks for sharing all your tips!
Really One of the best videos I've ever seen ! I've been doing the same stuff for over 40 years and I have to tell you I actually learned something from you! Thanks very much for this professionally done video. In all honesty very few homeowners have the Courage (balls) to cut up a $2000 vanity. I've done it ....but I tell you I swallowed hard before I started. I love the way you went step-by-step through each process. Especially using the template to router off the vanity leg so it will fit against the molding and routing out the interior shelves for the P trap clearance. .......very nicely done. I personally like the look of clean shiny copper on my plumbing connections but I did learn something when you showed how to use that Chrome sleeve on the back of the toilet I did not know that was available?? I love your videos and actually save them for review if I have a problem in my next project. Thank you!! you're providing an excellent service for all of us do-it-yourselfers out here in the real world. Bob mason El paso TX
For the aerator tool: put a hook, or nail, inside the cabinet so the tool lives with the faucet and is there when needed as most plumbers probably don't have one in their tool kits.
Great Tip and Great Comment!!! (Even though I'd probably use a zip tie and tie it - very loosely, in case there wasn't one handy when you were finished using it, as loosely as possible after every use - to one of the water lines and and re-zip tie as loosely as possible, until the zip tie needs replaced.)
You are a master tradesman!!! It’s impressive how you are good at everything in home remodeling. You and your son are the A-Team 👍🏼 Your work is phenomenal and the ideas from your channel are priceless. Thanks
If they won't see the broken shelf then why would they be looking for base molding in the bathroom underneath the vanity? I love the way you do this and when I get the BIG $$$ I will probably do it your way. Until then, I'm removing base molding behind the vanity, lol. Unless its an open shelf or is clearly visible. Thanks for the tip!
A contractor using a template - what a breath of fresh air; fantastic results. I wish I could hire you guys. I'm in the middle of two bathroom remodels and its shocks me how many trades either don't have the right tools or are not willing to do the job proper. When I hire a trade I'm looking for a professional install, you know straight cuts thru measuring and the years of experience indicating a solution to a problem. I can certainly do the work but I'm hiring a professional for a reason. Keep up the great work both of you.
Again with the spiffy camera angles, Jordan! And again with the well-done filming, Paul! Not to mention all the excellent workmanship, and the culmination of both in the magnificent visual of the countertops & plumbing seals splitting the laser beam. Sweet. :)
I grew up learning from my grandpa - a county engineering inspector, army man, and fantastic detail guy. It made me smile to hear “quarter past tight”. I miss him terribly, especially now that we are building our own house. Learning these things is a gift that blesses generations! Keep up the great work. I learn something or get ideas with each video.
I like watching your videos because you and your son are very skilled. It's nice to watch your clever methods. After watching you cut up and fit those vanities I had to send you a short note. I retired a couple years ago after 37 years owning a custom cabinet shop on the west coast. If you can find a custom cabinet maker in your area, they can make you vanity cabinets that fit, saving you loads of time and probably customer's money as well. By the time you finished installing them I doubt the customer saved money on the internet purchase. I was able to make a good living competing with prices of the import stuff and beating them on quality. Anyway something to think about.
Professional as always gentlemen. I love you! Truly that elusive kind of contractor that nobody can ever find, who have the skill and ethics to do stuff right. 💪😎
Oh crap, I am in the middle of remodeling our bathroom (1st remodel project ever) and my wife just ordered a vanity online. 😳 Awesome job overcoming the obstacles, I hope don’t encounter quite as many as you guys did.
Funny that you post this right now. I have two cabinets waiting for me to install in our master bath remodel, and had never considered that our online purchased cabinets may need to be "adjusted" to fit. But now I know not to panic! Thanks for this one!
This is exactly why I tell my plumber to off-center rough-ins. Chances are the trap arm will either hit something or be too close to the wall. A lot of the online-ordered vanities are made in south east Asia and leave much to be desired. Locally custom made is the way to go if it’s within budget. You made it look custom!
I’ve seen a many I’d under mount sinks mounted incorrectly, holes in sealant and so on. Heck, I’ve seen a ink dropped b/c mounting tabs broke and adhesive failed too. So, before install on wall, make sure sink is “sealed” good and won’t leak or fall later on.
i would have took the top off raised the height about four inches then put top back on and still would have had a shelf ,the shelf would have just the circular hole in for the top while it had give way for the bend from the bottom of the sink . just a idea and seen it done.
Glad I'm not the only one that runs into these issues. I like how you guys show all the problems when remodeling and not just a finished product. Thanks for the great videos.
Your son doesn't know it yet, but he is very lucky to be able to spend everyday with his dad while learning an in demand trade. Priceless! Great content!
I've never had a compression fitting leak on me... just clean your pipe and tighten the nut properly and you will be golden... THANK YOU FOR NOT USING SHARK BIT ANGLE FITTINGS!!!
If I have to cut a hole in the shelf of a vanity I'll use the same hole saw used for a ceiling can light. I would have raised the plumbing before cutting the bottom of the cabinet. You can use plumbing silicone on the pop-up rod ball, It makes it so you don't have to tighten the nut down tight and still get a good seal and easy to move so the rod extension doesn't bend. Love the vids guys keep up the great content!
Droplet at 19:27: I can't count the number of times I've had a momentary scare from residual water from when the line was open. But a quick wipe and no reappearance ultimately saves the day. That's the way it works for me MOST of the time...
Presently, contents of the cabinet will fall through the bottom onto the floor. I recommend cutting two U-shaped pieces from 1/4" thick rubber, plastic, plywood, etc. to fit tightly around the drain and to cover the hole.
Amen brother. These vanities are no longer a quick install Just had the same thing where we needed to modify the cabinet. The sad thing is these $2000 online vanities are poorly constructed. Great videos!!! Keep it up!
I love it when shippers damage a product so you get a great discount and the damage is in a place that never shows. Our bathroom vanity was $2200 CDN with out a top and we got it for $1100 because of this and all the damage was in the back! win win!!
They look like Home Decorators Collection vanities from Home Depot. I've bought a couple now and have been impressed with their build quality. The first one had a double sink and the countertop was attached. That thin g was *so* heavy. It took three of us to get it up the stairs! The second had a separate countertop, which was cracked when we received it. HD sent a truck with a new one and picked up the old one. I had a little modification to do to fit one, but luckily I had the vanity on site before I did the plumbing.
I think that for the LED faucet/valve washers idea the power for the LEDs should be derived from a little sensor for water flow. That way you wouldn't have to worry about syncing up the valve movement with the power, and more importantly you'd get both automatic leak detection and a fade on/off as the flow increases and decreases if desired. Very cool basis for a new product, guys.
That’s a great job on fitting the cabinets 👍🏽! Definitely worth the time watching. I learned a couple of great tricks. Especially the router! Keep up the great video’s 🤠
Good job. You might consider putting a small mat or insert around the P-trap to keep items from falling down through the hole you had to cut in the bottom of the cabinet. Bend to fit, paint to match.
Another solid video. I love that you work with your son. My oldest is 11 and has been coming with me during school breaks since he was 7. It’s the absolute best. 🇺🇸
Nice work. I've been there with these troiublesome furniture style bathroom cabinets. They don't make them to fit most installations for plumbing. On one cabinet the hot valve ended up behind the drawers! I cut holes to run the hose and modified the drawer to allow it to come out easily, so anyone can reach the shutoff valve. Necessity is the mother of invention! Or as we say in the military, adapt and overcome!
You guys really packed a lot into this episode, and I've saved it for future reference. Many folks don't realize that you've documented great tips that come from many years of learning the "hard way". Thanks for all you give back!!
You guys always have great content. I never thought of putting dope on a compression fitting, but I do sometimes get some tiny leaks.....you just gave me the solution. Thanks again, keep up the good work.
Hi Guys, love the channel. In my house we have the tap (faucet) handles pointing forward. That way I can nudge them on with my elbow when I come in from the garden with filthy hands. As a bonus you can top up the bath with your feet!
Great tutorial once again. I like the idea of modifying the vanity versus the wall. Nobody's looking underneath the vanity that often, typically. Additionally, the shelf modifications are out of sight. But, all this work goes back to the fact that these vanities are 'generic' in their design and it shows that hardly any care is taken to account for the dimensional variance and offset plumbing and other installation 'hack jobs' that wannabe DIYers or pseudo-pros may end up leaving behind for the next homeowner to deal with. I saw a lot of great tips and tricks that I will definitely use in my own house in the near future. The hookup on the faucets was very user-friendly by the way. I like a brand that considers those of us who often do installs at our relatives' homes.
one more tip... that aerator removal tool... tape it somewhere inside the vanity where it is out of the way but somewhere you can see it if needed... you can even label on the tape so people know what it is. this can save someone in the future that needs to remove the aerator and doesn't have that tool. great job guys!
Great instruction! I've rented a few homes that've had the hot and cold reversed. Someone told me that it was the Italian way. Only one of these homes had an Italian landlord. I still have my utility tub faucets backwards in my own home. I just never had to occasion to need to change it. I've had to watch though when installing new clothes washers.
Hey, guys, love your videos and I have a lighting suggestion for you to consider. Please try to use a floor stand to elevate the main flood light off the floor as this will change the shadows on your faces to be more friendly and less menacing. This was especially noticeable at the start of this video with the main light casting upwards. Also, bouncing the light off the ceiling, if it's white, and using another smaller light directly to soften overhead shadows will improve the quality of the overall look of your videos. However, the quality of your information is never in doubt and always spot on. Love to see you two working together. Thank you.
Some videos it's a struggle with lighting especially on rainy days and we have to cram a big work light a tiny bathroom! Hard to get even lighting in that situation but we hear ya. Once we get the new HALO lights in the lighting will improve dramatically. Thanks for the tip and the support Frank! 💪
I have a similar if not identical small pipe cutter. I work in field service where I fly a lot and space / weight is premium. Mine's made by Rigid. It turns out the cutting wheel is slightly skewed, most likely because it's not precision made and sloppy, but if I turn it in the same direction over and over, it doesn't cut the pipe, it creates a spiral groove instead, which of course screws up the pipe. I turn it forward and backward each revolution. That way, it doesn't "walk" along the pipe.
That seems a little excessive cutting up the vanity’s when it much better to move the waste lines up and while it was open you could have put new copper stub outs in to fix the bent ones.
Well I bought a heavy vanity with an attached marble top and have been stressing about how to get it into my bathroom because the turn from the hallway into the bedroom is too tight to just carry it in. You just answered my question with this video! I can turn it up on its end, put it on a dolly and roll it in (even though its heavy as heck!) And my plumbing doesn't line up with the new vanity, so I'm going to have to do some cutting as well - but after watching you do it I don't feel quite so bad about it!
Great content, as always! I’m trying to “freshen up” our bathrooms in preparation for selling our house in a few years. In the bathroom I’m working on now, I’d chosen to leave the tub/ shower combo, mainly because I’ve never built a shower from scratch like you did in this series of videos. On top of that, I don’t have too much experience tiling. I’m a very detailed person, however, and I catch on pretty well. I think with all the details you added in your videos, you’ve given me the confidence to rip out the tub and build a shower. I’m really excited because a large, tiled shower is really what I’ve wanted when I started this project. Thank you guys for sharing your methods and your tips & tricks!!!
Just ran into the exact same issues with my nee vanity. Fortunately the back legs were square though, so it was easy to install the baseboards in pieces. I have a soft close, sliding shelf under the sink that half covers the drain hole but stops about 3.5” from the back of the cabinet. Not sure if it’ll work yet as the top came broken and Costco is taking their sweet time sending another one. Love the way you trimmed out the turned legs to sit flush against the baseboard.
I had to do similar mods to my master bath dual sink cabinet....... but it is against outside wall, so we had to remove the cabinet material to slide the cabinet over and above the copper coming up from the floor....... great work
Awesome job with the notches one thing at the end i did the same thing, lol we both put that stopper rod in from back thus the stud nut is in the back now its easyier to 180 it so if u got to adjust it down the line. That could be why the hoses where hitting. If the C was 180 it would duck back a little move. Like i said i did the same thing on a job years back and came back to do an upgrade was kicking my self for not making that stud bolt forward fasting. Definitely learned a lot from you brother withe pro routing im do that now on im like you the attention to details will drive me nuts if it aint 100%. Thank you brother for videos great to see father and son turning wrenches my boy is 4 but hes got his tool belt n box!
Goes to show you that the homeowner needs to consult with the contractor to see what will and will not fit. Lucky Paul knows his stuff that he could modify the vanities to work with the plumbing without having to open up the walls. Great Job.
A consult with Paul wouldn't help, it's impossible to know how these vanities are constructed and how they will fit with the plumbing until they are in hand. Don's ask me how I know (DAMHIK)!
Good stuff, I have a habit, good or bad, of accepting about any job thrown my way. Experienced or not. Good to see how you guys tackle obstacles and know I'm not the only guy who isn't perfect. :)
I had several drains leak with plumbers putty after 5-6 years . Plumbers putty dries out, flakes apart and causes a leak. I now use silicone and have no more leaks. My theory is that after hot and cold water hits the putty, the putty dries out and comes apart.
Glad you prompted Jordan to put the wrench correctly on the bottom of the stop valves where there was room to. I like the metal drain. I have had trouble getting the plastic ones to seal. You will probably get comments asking why you didn't use shark bite stop values. I prefer those that stay in position better too. You could have used sweat (solder ones. that would be a good video).
Another great video guys. re: freehand routing. If you go inside to outside, you will have material to help support the router base until the very end.
Guys just started watching your channel a couple months ago. Great content! Here is a tip for you. I know that freezing is not a big concern in your area. But that pex tubing outside needs to be covered. Read the manufacturers warranty. Pex tubing will not be warranted if left in direct sunlight for more than 30 days. Great content and keep it coming!
this is the first video from this group of guys that i have watched. Subscribed this channel immediatly. Really like this gentleman who explains all the details very well! And.... maybe i should add a router to my shopping list ;)
First, thank you for addressing the drip. Second, I cannot count the number of times I've used a Hole Saw, and not "once" did it ever occur to me to drill from "both" sides. Yet another Oh $#*t moment for me. I shoulda known that!!! In regard to the commenter that mentioned using the drill size to cut a pilot hole, and use the drill in reverse to score the line for the hole saw? I didn't do it that way, but have used reverse for the initial contact with the wood. I just really wish I'd thought of cutting from the reverse side to minimumize the splinter effect of drilling straight through!!! Thanks for another informative video Stud Pack! Please keep them coming!!!
I only put dope on the threats. Because it helps to not tighten and prevent goaling so it tightens properly. And sometimes I will use a piece of the HVAC sheet metal tape to wrap around the exposed copper.
Wow, I really like your methodical approach to Smarter not Harder! Thanks StudPack! Projects with my dad & I (not StudPack experienced) were like two ADHD primates and with a crisco dipped football.... great to see how well you guys work together. "No Jordan, your other left" 😀
Wow. Very detailed, time consuming work, but in the end it paid off. Thanks for showing all the steps. I should make my wife watch this as she thinks everything takes 15 minutes.
wouldn’t it have been easier to remove the back baseboard and then just install a piece up to the side? Or just move the plumbing? I did that and it only cost $160. 2000 dollar vanity intact.
Paul, you're such an amazing teacher. Love that you thought about the copper supply line for the toilet being visible from the shower, so you used that chrome casing. I think I'm a detail person, but you put me to shame. Also, drooling over your Festool tools. Someday...
If the escutcheon doesn’t want to go on, put it on backwards then pry it around lightly to open up the teeth on it. Then put it on normal and it should slide right on
I'd say that in this case, the slightly bent and dented pipes actually helped you. You wisely put sealant on the pipe to keep it from leaking, but those dents and bends firmly hold the escutcheons and chrome plated sheath in place. Nice!!
I wish this video had come out 5 months ago. I did a similar project on my own over the holidays and it was brutal! Instead of carving away at the legs of the vanity though I notched the baseboards so the legs could sit against the drywall. The biggest issue I have is the wall behind the vanity isn't straight so there's a section where the silicone caulking is super thick and doesn't look great. I don't know how to solve that though
I think that those places along your water supply pipe that you said were banged up spots might have been solder globs. I've found those on all of our pipes in our home as I've fixed and/or reworked areas. They were building our neighborhood in a HURRY and it was 50 years ago, so regs weren't as stricly followed or enforced, not mention those that didn't exist yet. Not to say that big-glob-jobs are technically out of code, but when I was taught, my first foreman could get the pipes soldered clean and trim with only the slightest collar of solder to show that the job was done, and he encouraged me to do the same. But I digress, and if those are solder globs a little localized sanding takes them off and it's like new...at least on the outside.
I have run into this situation many times. Another solution is to use a 90° tail piece off of the sink drain (Wheel chair clearance) then 90° drop into P-trap. As long as there is a horizontal run of 5-6" after the P-trap you can provide another drop (90°, 45° whatever it takes and only cut out a small portion of the back of the shelf to get to the drain in the wall. Drain will work fine and the horizontal run after P-trap stops the trap from siphoning
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We can see em' coming from a mile away. "Why didn't you just move the plumbing?" "You should have just notched the baseboard" and guys.. THERE IS NO LEAK 😂 that’s a drop of water from the line that made it through during install. We tested and checked everything 👊🏼
First, notching the baseboard. We'll be honest, we just don't think it looks as good. A notched leg against the wall over the base looks way cleaner than a baseboard notch. Now you're fooling with caulk and paint, rough edges that you might be able to see. If that's how you do it that's great! But we think this looks pretty sharp and more custom.
Second, moving the plumbing. Since the vanities took so long to be delivered, we went ahead and finished the bathrooms, including painting the walls. We didn't feel like cutting into our pretty much finished bathroom to move some plumbing 3/4 of a inch. In this old house, cutting the walls, patching drywall, re-painting and moving plumbing would have been MUCH more difficult than doing what we did here, although we definitely considered it.
Do your work to your own standards. There will always be keyboard warriors with differing opinions. Great job as always 👍🏼.
Really appreciate how you explain the reasons why you do things the way you do. It really helps others to think outside of how they would first approach a job. Great channel!
Those are tough decisions. I agree on leaving the baseboards alone. I faced a similar situation with the drain and water lines on a recent bathroom remodel. Finished putting up the new drywall and noticed the drain and one of the water lines needed moved up. It was frustrating but I ended up cutting into the wall moving them and then patched it up. I did seriously consider cutting the shelf.
It’s all good Paul, but consider using a hole for your p trap jigs.
Two holes and connect them to a racetrack oval. Still great job on keeping things moving forward.
Everyone wants to be an armchair quarterback, 😂🤪🙃 y'all rock. And give me more to think about each time I think about starting a new project. I might actually get to do some physical work at some point, but I keep learning new things and having to revise my plan of attack, 🤣🤣🤣.
Slide 3/4” pex over the 1/2” copper. Helps to keep it clean during drywall and paint!
The attention to detail and willingness to go the extra mile for the fine details is just unreal. Truly the difference between you fellas and the rest of the guys out there. Much love to you all!
A tip for drilling a huge hole like that 3" is drill the guide hole first with a bit the same size as your mandril, then use the hole saw bit in reverse. This will score the wood and create a channel or kerf that gives the hole saw a place to stay put and it wont bite or jump because it's in reverse. Then put the drill in forward and finish half the cut and do the same from the other side!
or better yet dont pre cut a 3 inch hole in a scrap piece of ply wood clamp it in place, get rid of the center drill bit and use the plywood as a guide with that 3 inch hole already cut. leaves almost no tear out and loses the risk of that hole saw walking on you
@@smokecreekstudio7320 yeah I had to do this with drilling out a deadbolt lock from 1 in to 2 in on my door. there was no other way to do it plus it was a metal door
This Father and Son Duo is great! Loved it when Jordan says “check out this cool move Dad!” Paul says that’s cool bub but your turning it the wrong way! Lol! Love it!
Come on! Righty tighty - Lefty losey 😂
@@daxmas625 that is the Golden Rule! I’ve been turning wrenches for about 10 years now could not tell you how many people can’t wrap there head around that! Lol
@@daxmas625 Yeah that's what I was thinking and started turning it right! But it's inverted when tightening those nuts..😤
@@StudPack yep! No shame there, the fastener was tightening towards you, not away from you, remembering to flip the direction of rotation takes some conscious effort!
All old men couldn't help but giggle on that one. Jordan, we all made the mistake a "few" times when we were learning or were worn out and couldn't think straight.
It's so refreshing to finally have a channel on RUclips that does things the right way, and explain WHY it's done that way. Too often, we get DIYers and even professionals that hack things up, putting mascara on a pig. This leads people to do the same, and only expect the same from their contractors and subs. Those of us who take pride in our work, and the workmanship, appreciate you both demonstrating why things take the time and energy, and the cost, to do it right the first time.
As always, fantastic job, y'all!
"Cordless tools with excellent dust collection", huh? I foresee a LOT of green/black, and red/black tools in the future for Paul and Jordan! You won't go wrong either way, gentlemen!
"Quality is a luxury that you can't see". Not sure where I read that, but using a router and template takes it up to that next level.
Great job.
Many framers don’t think so. As a result , caulk and paint make a framer what he ain’t
Great job leveling and customizing for all the plumbing. One thing I would have done to the big vanity is install a small lip, perhaps 1.5 inch tall around the P trap to keep any items from falling into the opening.
As usual, nice work. Personally, I would've opened the wall and adjusted the plumbing rather than cutting up the vanity. If possible, I suggest measuring all this stuff prior to finishing the walls. If you didn't have the vanity, its description on a website (retailer or manufacturer) or a display model should have had been available to find the dimensions. I don't care for plumbing to cut into cabinets because I don't think it looks as nice and stuff will fall through the hole. BTW, I wish you had showed the drawers working.
Good tips on the silicon caulk! Always use silicon in wet areas and never in places that need painting.
Edit: I didn't see your comment about this before posting, but my point on finding dims still applies.
I am impressed with your vast knowledge and skill set. I was impressed with the crescent wrench trick, and I thought I invented it lol. One trick I learned with the escutcheons is to start them backwards, bend the teeth slightly. Then turn them around and they don’t fight you. I really enjoy the channel.
We purchased a pre built vanity from a Home Store and went from a 24" vanity to a 36" vanity, which caused a problem with a normal P trap to work. After several trips to different hardware stores we found a flexible rubber P Trap called Simple Drain which saved the day.
Thanks for sharing all your tips!
Really One of the best videos I've ever seen ! I've been doing the same stuff for over 40 years and I have to tell you I actually learned something from you!
Thanks very much for this professionally done video. In all honesty very few homeowners have the Courage (balls) to cut up a $2000 vanity. I've done it ....but I tell you I swallowed hard before I started.
I love the way you went step-by-step through each process.
Especially using the template to router off the vanity leg so it will fit against the molding and routing out the interior shelves for the P trap clearance. .......very nicely done.
I personally like the look of clean shiny copper on my plumbing connections but I did learn something when you showed how to use that Chrome sleeve on the back of the toilet I did not know that was available??
I love your videos and actually save them for review if I have a problem in my next project.
Thank you!! you're providing an excellent service for all of us do-it-yourselfers out here in the real world.
Bob mason
El paso TX
For the aerator tool: put a hook, or nail, inside the cabinet so the tool lives with the faucet and is there when needed as most plumbers probably don't have one in their tool kits.
That’s smart. I always leave all faucet literature next to the sink/lav with any tools on top.
I used a cable tie to tie it to the supply tube. I know it'll be there if I ever need it. Okay...when I need it.
My thought as he mentioned that was "great, a special tool to remove the aerator. "Thanks Delta!
Great Tip and Great Comment!!! (Even though I'd probably use a zip tie and tie it - very loosely, in case there wasn't one handy when you were finished using it, as loosely as possible after every use - to one of the water lines and and re-zip tie as loosely as possible, until the zip tie needs replaced.)
The Delta aerator tool clips right onto the supply line.
You are a master tradesman!!! It’s impressive how you are good at everything in home remodeling. You and your son are the A-Team 👍🏼
Your work is phenomenal and the ideas from your channel are priceless. Thanks
If they won't see the broken shelf then why would they be looking for base molding in the bathroom underneath the vanity?
I love the way you do this and when I get the BIG $$$ I will probably do it your way.
Until then, I'm removing base molding behind the vanity, lol.
Unless its an open shelf or is clearly visible.
Thanks for the tip!
A contractor using a template - what a breath of fresh air; fantastic results. I wish I could hire you guys. I'm in the middle of two bathroom remodels and its shocks me how many trades either don't have the right tools or are not willing to do the job proper. When I hire a trade I'm looking for a professional install, you know straight cuts thru measuring and the years of experience indicating a solution to a problem. I can certainly do the work but I'm hiring a professional for a reason. Keep up the great work both of you.
Again with the spiffy camera angles, Jordan! And again with the well-done filming, Paul! Not to mention all the excellent workmanship, and the culmination of both in the magnificent visual of the countertops & plumbing seals splitting the laser beam. Sweet. :)
When you dropped the shutoff in the bucket tightening it the wrong way. LOL Pure gold ! Made my night. Everyone does that once .. maybe twice :)
I grew up learning from my grandpa - a county engineering inspector, army man, and fantastic detail guy. It made me smile to hear “quarter past tight”. I miss him terribly, especially now that we are building our own house. Learning these things is a gift that blesses generations! Keep up the great work. I learn something or get ideas with each video.
I like watching your videos because you and your son are very skilled. It's nice to watch your clever methods. After watching you cut up and fit those vanities I had to send you a short note. I retired a couple years ago after 37 years owning a custom cabinet shop on the west coast. If you can find a custom cabinet maker in your area, they can make you vanity cabinets that fit, saving you loads of time and probably customer's money as well. By the time you finished installing them I doubt the customer saved money on the internet purchase. I was able to make a good living competing with prices of the import stuff and beating them on quality. Anyway something to think about.
That's the best notch I've ever seen awesome idea with the template and router
Professional as always gentlemen. I love you! Truly that elusive kind of contractor that nobody can ever find, who have the skill and ethics to do stuff right. 💪😎
Oh crap, I am in the middle of remodeling our bathroom (1st remodel project ever) and my wife just ordered a vanity online. 😳 Awesome job overcoming the obstacles, I hope don’t encounter quite as many as you guys did.
Funny that you post this right now. I have two cabinets waiting for me to install in our master bath remodel, and had never considered that our online purchased cabinets may need to be "adjusted" to fit. But now I know not to panic! Thanks for this one!
Video camera loves Paul and so do I! He is a natural. Keep these videos coming. Fantastic job guys.
@27:55 Yup...learned that the hard way. Take out the aerator when you first install it.
This is exactly why I tell my plumber to off-center rough-ins. Chances are the trap arm will either hit something or be too close to the wall. A lot of the online-ordered vanities are made in south east Asia and leave much to be desired. Locally custom made is the way to go if it’s within budget. You made it look custom!
For all the additional labor for Stud Pack to modify those vanities for install, I think custom built cabinets would have been cheaper.
Or just move the darn plumbing would have 1/4 the work
I’ve seen a many I’d under mount sinks mounted incorrectly, holes in sealant and so on. Heck, I’ve seen a ink dropped b/c mounting tabs broke and adhesive failed too. So, before install on wall, make sure sink is “sealed” good and won’t leak or fall later on.
I've cut cabinets up and I've opened walls and moved plumbing to where it would fit. It is what it is.
Tile and floor installer here, love the quality of your work and videos! The real Holmes on Homes right here with a Southern comfort to it.
i would have took the top off raised the height about four inches then put top back on and still would have had a shelf ,the shelf would have just the circular hole in for the top while it had give way for the bend from the bottom of the sink .
just a idea and seen it done.
Glad I'm not the only one that runs into these issues. I like how you guys show all the problems when remodeling and not just a finished product. Thanks for the great videos.
Oj
Wyd quiparosab
DIY-er here... I can't get enough of your videos. Wish you were local to me so I could hire you for my more complicated jobs. Keep rocking it!
Dude, I feel your pain because as a handyman, I run into these issues all the time...You guys nailed it though with your modifications. 👍👍
Your son doesn't know it yet, but he is very lucky to be able to spend everyday with his dad while learning an in demand trade. Priceless! Great content!
I've never had a compression fitting leak on me... just clean your pipe and tighten the nut properly and you will be golden...
THANK YOU FOR NOT USING SHARK BIT ANGLE FITTINGS!!!
If I have to cut a hole in the shelf of a vanity I'll use the same hole saw used for a ceiling can light. I would have raised the plumbing before cutting the bottom of the cabinet. You can use plumbing silicone on the pop-up rod ball, It makes it so you don't have to tighten the nut down tight and still get a good seal and easy to move so the rod extension doesn't bend. Love the vids guys keep up the great content!
You only needed to cut out an oval where the drain trap would come through the shelf....that way you wouldn't cut the stretcher & weaken the vanity
Droplet at 19:27:
I can't count the number of times I've had a momentary scare from residual water from when the line was open. But a quick wipe and no reappearance ultimately saves the day.
That's the way it works for me MOST of the time...
Presently, contents of the cabinet will fall through the bottom onto the floor. I recommend cutting two U-shaped pieces from 1/4" thick rubber, plastic, plywood, etc. to fit tightly around the drain and to cover the hole.
Amen brother. These vanities are no longer a quick install Just had the same thing where we needed to modify the cabinet. The sad thing is these $2000 online vanities are poorly constructed. Great videos!!! Keep it up!
Man, I low key thought the green level line was legit LEDs. Best DIY channel on YT. You can't tell me any different.
I love it when shippers damage a product so you get a great discount and the damage is in a place that never shows. Our bathroom vanity was $2200 CDN with out a top and we got it for $1100 because of this and all the damage was in the back! win win!!
They look like Home Decorators Collection vanities from Home Depot. I've bought a couple now and have been impressed with their build quality. The first one had a double sink and the countertop was attached. That thin g was *so* heavy. It took three of us to get it up the stairs! The second had a separate countertop, which was cracked when we received it. HD sent a truck with a new one and picked up the old one. I had a little modification to do to fit one, but luckily I had the vanity on site before I did the plumbing.
I think that for the LED faucet/valve washers idea the power for the LEDs should be derived from a little sensor for water flow. That way you wouldn't have to worry about syncing up the valve movement with the power, and more importantly you'd get both automatic leak detection and a fade on/off as the flow increases and decreases if desired. Very cool basis for a new product, guys.
You guys rock. Thank you.
Us weekend home repair guys learn so much from you guys. There’s curve balls to every job. Thanks for helping us learn!!!
That’s a great job on fitting the cabinets 👍🏽! Definitely worth the time watching. I learned a couple of great tricks. Especially the router! Keep up the great video’s 🤠
Good job. You might consider putting a small mat or insert around the P-trap to keep items from falling down through the hole you had to cut in the bottom of the cabinet. Bend to fit, paint to match.
Another solid video. I love that you work with your son. My oldest is 11 and has been coming with me during school breaks since he was 7. It’s the absolute best. 🇺🇸
Nice work. I've been there with these troiublesome furniture style bathroom cabinets. They don't make them to fit most installations for plumbing. On one cabinet the hot valve ended up behind the drawers! I cut holes to run the hose and modified the drawer to allow it to come out easily, so anyone can reach the shutoff valve. Necessity is the mother of invention! Or as we say in the military, adapt and overcome!
I admire your energy and love that smile. Better than all your smooth relationship with your son.
You guys really packed a lot into this episode, and I've saved it for future reference. Many folks don't realize that you've documented great tips that come from many years of learning the "hard way". Thanks for all you give back!!
You guys always have great content. I never thought of putting dope on a compression fitting, but I do sometimes get some tiny leaks.....you just gave me the solution. Thanks again, keep up the good work.
17:12 yes. Compression fittings.. yeah they are bent that could cause a problem.
Love the attention to detail. What kind of camera setup do you guys use?
Hi Guys, love the channel.
In my house we have the tap (faucet) handles pointing forward. That way I can nudge them on with my elbow when I come in from the garden with filthy hands. As a bonus you can top up the bath with your feet!
Great tutorial once again. I like the idea of modifying the vanity versus the wall. Nobody's looking underneath the vanity that often, typically. Additionally, the shelf modifications are out of sight. But, all this work goes back to the fact that these vanities are 'generic' in their design and it shows that hardly any care is taken to account for the dimensional variance and offset plumbing and other installation 'hack jobs' that wannabe DIYers or pseudo-pros may end up leaving behind for the next homeowner to deal with. I saw a lot of great tips and tricks that I will definitely use in my own house in the near future. The hookup on the faucets was very user-friendly by the way. I like a brand that considers those of us who often do installs at our relatives' homes.
Much appreciated 👊👍
one more tip... that aerator removal tool... tape it somewhere inside the vanity where it is out of the way but somewhere you can see it if needed... you can even label on the tape so people know what it is. this can save someone in the future that needs to remove the aerator and doesn't have that tool. great job guys!
Had a similar issue with a vanity for a client. We cut the baseboard for the legs and notched the shelf for the drain went.
Great instruction! I've rented a few homes that've had the hot and cold reversed. Someone told me that it was the Italian way. Only one of these homes had an Italian landlord. I still have my utility tub faucets backwards in my own home. I just never had to occasion to need to change it. I've had to watch though when installing new clothes washers.
Hey, guys, love your videos and I have a lighting suggestion for you to consider. Please try to use a floor stand to elevate the main flood light off the floor as this will change the shadows on your faces to be more friendly and less menacing. This was especially noticeable at the start of this video with the main light casting upwards. Also, bouncing the light off the ceiling, if it's white, and using another smaller light directly to soften overhead shadows will improve the quality of the overall look of your videos. However, the quality of your information is never in doubt and always spot on. Love to see you two working together. Thank you.
Some videos it's a struggle with lighting especially on rainy days and we have to cram a big work light a tiny bathroom! Hard to get even lighting in that situation but we hear ya. Once we get the new HALO lights in the lighting will improve dramatically. Thanks for the tip and the support Frank! 💪
I have a similar if not identical small pipe cutter. I work in field service where I fly a lot and space / weight is premium. Mine's made by Rigid. It turns out the cutting wheel is slightly skewed, most likely because it's not precision made and sloppy, but if I turn it in the same direction over and over, it doesn't cut the pipe, it creates a spiral groove instead, which of course screws up the pipe. I turn it forward and backward each revolution. That way, it doesn't "walk" along the pipe.
That seems a little excessive cutting up the vanity’s when it much better to move the waste lines up and while it was open you could have put new copper stub outs in to fix the bent ones.
Well I bought a heavy vanity with an attached marble top and have been stressing about how to get it into my bathroom because the turn from the hallway into the bedroom is too tight to just carry it in. You just answered my question with this video! I can turn it up on its end, put it on a dolly and roll it in (even though its heavy as heck!) And my plumbing doesn't line up with the new vanity, so I'm going to have to do some cutting as well - but after watching you do it I don't feel quite so bad about it!
I like the thinking on the fly and attention to every detail. Awesome guys!!!
Great content, as always! I’m trying to “freshen up” our bathrooms in preparation for selling our house in a few years. In the bathroom I’m working on now, I’d chosen to leave the tub/ shower combo, mainly because I’ve never built a shower from scratch like you did in this series of videos. On top of that, I don’t have too much experience tiling. I’m a very detailed person, however, and I catch on pretty well. I think with all the details you added in your videos, you’ve given me the confidence to rip out the tub and build a shower. I’m really excited because a large, tiled shower is really what I’ve wanted when I started this project. Thank you guys for sharing your methods and your tips & tricks!!!
Just ran into the exact same issues with my nee vanity. Fortunately the back legs were square though, so it was easy to install the baseboards in pieces. I have a soft close, sliding shelf under the sink that half covers the drain hole but stops about 3.5” from the back of the cabinet. Not sure if it’ll work yet as the top came broken and Costco is taking their sweet time sending another one.
Love the way you trimmed out the turned legs to sit flush against the baseboard.
19:27 leak? I had one that it was actually the screw on the quarter turn that needed tightening.
I had to do similar mods to my master bath dual sink cabinet....... but it is against outside wall, so we had to remove the cabinet material to slide the cabinet over and above the copper coming up from the floor....... great work
Awesome job with the notches one thing at the end i did the same thing, lol we both put that stopper rod in from back thus the stud nut is in the back now its easyier to 180 it so if u got to adjust it down the line. That could be why the hoses where hitting. If the C was 180 it would duck back a little move. Like i said i did the same thing on a job years back and came back to do an upgrade was kicking my self for not making that stud bolt forward fasting. Definitely learned a lot from you brother withe pro routing im do that now on im like you the attention to details will drive me nuts if it aint 100%. Thank you brother for videos great to see father and son turning wrenches my boy is 4 but hes got his tool belt n box!
Goes to show you that the homeowner needs to consult with the contractor to see what will and will not fit. Lucky Paul knows his stuff that he could modify the vanities to work with the plumbing without having to open up the walls. Great Job.
A consult with Paul wouldn't help, it's impossible to know how these vanities are constructed and how they will fit with the plumbing until they are in hand. Don's ask me how I know (DAMHIK)!
Hello, I find foil duct tape covers the copper pipe just as well. Way easier and faster. I like your channel, thanks.
Good stuff, I have a habit, good or bad, of accepting about any job thrown my way. Experienced or not. Good to see how you guys tackle obstacles and know I'm not the only guy who isn't perfect. :)
Bravo again guys. You sure can tackle the tough jobs. Thanks for sharing with us through these videos.
I had several drains leak with plumbers putty after 5-6 years . Plumbers putty dries out, flakes apart and causes a leak. I now use silicone and have no more leaks. My theory is that after hot and cold water hits the putty, the putty dries out and comes apart.
You're a great mentor for your son very knowledgeable in the trade excellent video Love the way you explain everything in detail
Glad you prompted Jordan to put the wrench correctly on the bottom of the stop valves where there was room to. I like the metal drain. I have had trouble getting the plastic ones to seal. You will probably get comments asking why you didn't use shark bite stop values. I prefer those that stay in position better too. You could have used sweat (solder ones. that would be a good video).
Another great video guys. re: freehand routing. If you go inside to outside, you will have material to help support the router base until the very end.
Great work ,I like the way you teach your son all of your wisdom, great Dad 🙏🇺🇸👍🏽
Never thought of dope on the compression fitting, good tip. When and where I can I like to solder the water valve, of course a valve made for that.
Another great job. Lots of extra work to tweak those vanities. Your remodeler would have to charge for the extra work.
Guys just started watching your channel a couple months ago. Great content!
Here is a tip for you. I know that freezing is not a big concern in your area. But that pex tubing outside needs to be covered. Read the manufacturers warranty. Pex tubing will not be warranted if left in direct sunlight for more than 30 days.
Great content and keep it coming!
30 days x 24 hours = 720 hours ... so, it depends on how many hours of sunlight you get per day of exposure, right? 🤣🤣
I love your description of how and why things go together.
I just installed my new vanity a while back. All the problems I ran into and had to fix it pretty much happened to you. Great video!
this is the first video from this group of guys that i have watched. Subscribed this channel immediatly. Really like this gentleman who explains all the details very well! And.... maybe i should add a router to my shopping list ;)
First, thank you for addressing the drip. Second, I cannot count the number of times I've used a Hole Saw, and not "once" did it ever occur to me to drill from "both" sides. Yet another Oh $#*t moment for me. I shoulda known that!!! In regard to the commenter that mentioned using the drill size to cut a pilot hole, and use the drill in reverse to score the line for the hole saw? I didn't do it that way, but have used reverse for the initial contact with the wood. I just really wish I'd thought of cutting from the reverse side to minimumize the splinter effect of drilling straight through!!! Thanks for another informative video Stud Pack! Please keep them coming!!!
Binocular Bobs🤣😂🤣
Gonna have to use that one my friend.....Love it!!!! Best Father Son duo on RUclips!!!!!
Great job studs. I like how you made the changes to the vanity and not the home. Great idea thanks for sharing
I only put dope on the threats. Because it helps to not tighten and prevent goaling so it tightens properly. And sometimes I will use a piece of the HVAC sheet metal tape to wrap around the exposed copper.
Wow, I really like your methodical approach to Smarter not Harder! Thanks StudPack! Projects with my dad & I (not StudPack experienced) were like two ADHD primates and with a crisco dipped football.... great to see how well you guys work together. "No Jordan, your other left" 😀
Wow. Very detailed, time consuming work, but in the end it paid off. Thanks for showing all the steps. I should make my wife watch this as she thinks everything takes 15 minutes.
wouldn’t it have been easier to remove the back baseboard and then just install a piece up to the side? Or just move the plumbing? I did that and it only cost $160. 2000 dollar vanity intact.
Paul, you're such an amazing teacher. Love that you thought about the copper supply line for the toilet being visible from the shower, so you used that chrome casing. I think I'm a detail person, but you put me to shame. Also, drooling over your Festool tools. Someday...
If the escutcheon doesn’t want to go on, put it on backwards then pry it around lightly to open up the teeth on it. Then put it on normal and it should slide right on
I'd say that in this case, the slightly bent and dented pipes actually helped you. You wisely put sealant on the pipe to keep it from leaking, but those dents and bends firmly hold the escutcheons and chrome plated sheath in place. Nice!!
I wish this video had come out 5 months ago.
I did a similar project on my own over the holidays and it was brutal!
Instead of carving away at the legs of the vanity though I notched the baseboards so the legs could sit against the drywall.
The biggest issue I have is the wall behind the vanity isn't straight so there's a section where the silicone caulking is super thick and doesn't look great. I don't know how to solve that though
I think that those places along your water supply pipe that you said were banged up spots might have been solder globs. I've found those on all of our pipes in our home as I've fixed and/or reworked areas. They were building our neighborhood in a HURRY and it was 50 years ago, so regs weren't as stricly followed or enforced, not mention those that didn't exist yet. Not to say that big-glob-jobs are technically out of code, but when I was taught, my first foreman could get the pipes soldered clean and trim with only the slightest collar of solder to show that the job was done, and he encouraged me to do the same. But I digress, and if those are solder globs a little localized sanding takes them off and it's like new...at least on the outside.
Awesome job. Always fun watching you guys solve problems.
The busiest highway in the world is the 401 in Ontario Canada.... Ask me how I know lol! Great job btw love your show!
I have run into this situation many times. Another solution is to use a 90° tail piece off of the sink drain (Wheel chair clearance) then 90° drop into P-trap. As long as there is a horizontal run of 5-6" after the P-trap you can provide another drop (90°, 45° whatever it takes and only cut out a small portion of the back of the shelf to get to the drain in the wall. Drain will work fine and the horizontal run after P-trap stops the trap from siphoning