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Excellent review! In any discussion of tires for use in winter, I don’t think you can ever emphasize enough the HUGE difference between a dedicated winter tire like the Nokian LT3 and the rest. I use this tire, and like his wife, it’s the one I trust to keep me and my family safe when regularly driving in snowy/icy conditions. It hooks up in packed snow and ice almost as good as a regular tire in the dry. While 9 of the tires reviewed have what you might call “acceptable” packed snow performance for All-terrains (and better than anything else out there), and the studded versions give 2 of these legitimate winter snow/ice performance, only the LT3 has excellent cold/snow/ice performance (and in the stud-less version excellent cold/snow, good ice). He aludes to it, but it’s also worth highlighting that all-weather and winter tires are not just for snow. They are designed for cold weather where temps are regularly below 45°F (7°C). The rubber compound in the tires are specifically formulated to stay soft and maintain their performance at colder temperatures. Where a summer or all-season or regular all-terrain tire will get hard as rock.
Great video. Longtime nokian hakkapeliitta fan here for dedicated winter tire. Its surprisingly good on forest service roads gravel/mud. Run 235/80r17 in '18 4runner for winter
Love my Duratrak’s. I was trying to get them stuck in a 3 foot snowfall & never got ‘em stuck. Great in the rain & run em throughout the summer. Hard pack, loose, wet snow & dirt or mud, they bite & go. Running a 1st Gen Lincoln Aviator.
I'm getting my wife a pair of dedicated winter tires for her truck. We live in North Dakota. Roads are ice covered most of the time. Getting some 275/60R20 Blizzak DM-V2's this next Wednesday. I liked the AT3WA's we had on the ram. We got 65k miles out of a 50k mile tire. I'm probably going to put AT4W's on it in the spring. I bet we get over 75k miles out of them.
Awesome video! I too like the General Grabber ATX with studs as a winter tire and installed a set last year on my wifes Yukon Denali for winter use with studs because she likes the confidence they instill. I had also installed a set of the Generals on my daughters 2003 Duramax pickup a few years ago with the prior set being Goodyear Duratracs. Hands down the Generals were much better than the Duratracs especially after the Duratracs had worn a bit because the sipes were not full depth. I used to have access to Nokians and they are great tires, but my warehouse discontinued them. Another great choice is the General Altimax artic that has a tread design similar to the Nokians, directional and pinned for studs. The Hankook I Pike was another great winter tire in normal tire sizes but they haven't been available for the last two years, so I am not sure of the issue with them. Fireston Winterforce is another directional studable winter tire that perform well. My favorite all terrain tire for everything is the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T, I have many sets on customer's trucks and they all love them with the exception of mileage loss due to the weight. I am intrigued by the new Nitto, it looks good, but I have had bad luck with Nitto tires holding up on Wyoming roads due to the chip seal on the asphalt, they just don't seem to last well. I am interested to see how they hold up for you! Right now I am testing two different sets of tires on my personal 23 Duramax Denali Dually, one set of the Falken A/T4 in 255/80R17 and another set of Toyo R/T trail in 255/80R17. First experience with the Falken A/T4 is that I have rebalanced them three times in about 5,000 miles. They are much noisier than I expected at slow speeds but quiet down as I go faster. They don't seem to be wearing great, as they have gone from 17/32 to 14/32nds on the rears and 15/32nds on the fronts. The Toyo's probably aren't doing any better with about the same wear on the rears with similar mileage, but the Toyo's have much better off road traction in this size. Most of my miles on this truck are towing heavy. Hopefully we get more snow this year than last year for some good comparisions, because last year we had very little snow.
I’m blown away that you rate KO2s so well for snow wheeling. I’ve driven tens of thousands of miles in all sorts of snow in Scandinavia and the US. I can’t think of a worse winter tire than the KO2. They’re outright dangerous on snow/ice and wet conditions. I’m on ky second set of KO2s in my 5th gen 4Runner, and they are wonderful tires for off roading. Strong, durable, and dependable. But snow and ice? Outright dangerous.
Ko2 is rated low from me on Wet conditions for sure... ice it is average (KO3 is much better) but for snow wheeling I think maybe we are talking different things... I am talking in 3-5 feet of snow where your mission is to float and maintain snow on snow contact... a 39" BFG running at 2-4 PSI is a remarkable Snow wheeling tire.
Ok it makes more sense, I can’t comment on deep snow wheeling but on snowed in road with packed snow I agree with Henri they are just down right dangerous. I had to switch to dedicated winter tire for commuting. To me they don’t deserve their 3 snow peak rating at all
I also have KO2 for summer - they are very, very bad in rain, snow etc. For winter I use Yokohama's BluEarth Winter tyres that are far, far better. Given my 2.5 years experience with BFG K02 I shall replace them in the spring with Falken AT4W.
Agree with your assessment of the Nokian outpost. Ran it for a year and a half on my 200 series. Great in deeper snow, rode well, quiet at speeds, but poor poor performance in hardpack snow and ice. After one too many letdowns in the CO high country I bought some actual winter tires. General grabber artic LT. I’d never run a true snow tire before. It’s like cheat mode. It’s ridiculously good in those hardpack snowy/icy situations. Just wish it came in larger sizes. Did not opt for studded as I see a variety of conditions, but you can stud them. I can only imagine how crazy good those hakkapelitas are! I also share the same experience with KO2s in deep snow.
Yokohama Geolander AT-XD. I don't expect it to be best but its a commercial HD tire. Just put them on my 19 power wagon after having the X-AT's for 55k miles and loving them.
Good timing on this video. My gladiator I’m on 37” ko2’s and I snow wheel occasionally and often in deeper than a foot of snow, I really don’t like the winter highway performance. The Nokian is tempting but it’s small. I like the duratrac rt as well but again small. The general atx might be worth looking into. I’m way into the far north of B.C so we get-40 temps and blizzard dry snow and lots of really hard ice
I have seen the test results from multiple 3rd part companies that only test tires and none of them reflect TFL's results... so my hunch is TFL isn't using a ver scientific method of testing braking.
@OutdoorAuto , yeah they run the truck down the same stretch of road and slam the brakes on. The second tire is running on the ice created by the first tire. Nothing scientific about it. Those guys are just out screwing around trying to create content.
TFL don't have a clue. That was an absolute unscientific test that doesn't line up with any other published test results. Rather than accept that fact and not publish, they put out the bs video for clicks. Lost a lot of credibility from that.
Big miss by not having the new Bridgestone A/T Ascent, they look to have the most potential for winter/snow capability of any A/T tire. Great review though!
Hi, I live in Canada. We have a store here called Canadian tire and they sell their own Name brand of tires which are called Motormaster. They have an All-terrain. tire that is called the motor master eliminator x trail. They are made by Cooper tire. I would love to know what you think of them.
Can you guys get a set of Cooper Discoverer Stronghold ATs? There isn't a good review of them on RUclips and I really like your format and presentation. Everyone I've talked to locally hasn't had them long enough to really say, but that they ride good, balance well. They are a new tire as of June this year and Coopers Road + Trail tire has more attention even tho it's arguably a milder AT
The biggest thing preventing me from looking at the Duratrac RTs is how shallow the sipes are. While most others use full depth sipes, Goodyear does not. What use is great winter traction if you lose it after 20,000 miles?
overall the goodyears issues is related to wear... it gets really loud, it had issues with uneven wear... I think as a dedicated snow/winter tire it is good because it essentially date codes out before it wears out... but for a tire you will wear down to the wear lines... there are better options.
@@OutdoorAuto yeah, I mean I won't run my tires below like 6/32nds. Still, I just need the winter performance to be great throughout the life of the tire because I use my truck to get up to the Colorado mountains for skiing/snowboarding and also winter camp a lot. If not for those sipes I might have tried them.
If enough people say this... I am pretty sure it will happen... I have never run them but they look like they would go in the "Road Focused" AT.... which I tend to not review a lot of tires from... Main Reason is at a certain point if people are really only going to do road then they should get winter specilist tires and seasonally switch with summer tires.
I would run those for off-road heavy overlanding and overlanding in the south or east to help with the mud. They are incredible tires... just know you are going to get 50K at best....
Given you mentioned buying ten sets of tires, is there a future video coming out with an attempt at collecting objective data comparing winter performance? It would be great to see data collecting on acceleration/ braking on compact snow, ice, and deep snow. Sitting there speculating is borderline useless.
From what i could tell, these all looked like e rated ats.. Having a smaller truck, Tacoma, and probably going with an SL or possibly C rated tire, because it spends 95% of the time on pavement in a very wet climate (Oregon).. Would you say these selections behave, have the same strengths and weaknesses, in an SL rating as an E rating and being under the impression that an E rated tire would be too stiff and uncomfortable on a smaller truck..?
For winter (and it's about low temperatures, not only about snow and ice) only the winter tyres are safe enough. Testing the AT (kind of all-seasons) tyres for winter is pretty stupid, as any good driver should go for dedicated winter tyres for winter. The all-seasons/weather are very dangerous for real winter - they may be good for areas without real winter (not going to freezing temperatures), but not having winter tyres going North is really unsafe, thus dumb.
Are you thinking the old AT51? The AT52 has full depths sipes as far as what I measured. Make sure if you are checking sipe depth you have to generally measure the middle of the sipe... some have closed out ends to create "suction sipes" for wet traction...
You should do the Kenda Klever RT. I have yet to find a tire that's better for the price and performs excellent in all terrain. It has pre drilled holes for studs as well. Kenda didn't give it the 3 peak snow rating due to 1 or 2 sizes not making the requirements. The rest of the sizes did. I recently moved from Vancouver, WA, to Casper, WY. The Kendas are not popular in Washington, but in Casper, they are very popular.
@OutdoorAuto Awesome! That's where I recently bought mine to put on my Xterra to move out to Casper with. I would love to know how their new MT2 tire is as well. I think it looks amazing! I will be looking out for that video if your able to get it done. You do an excellent job man. Keep it up!
If you’re in the US you shouldn’t run an “All-season” tire year-round unless you are in a climate zone that rarely sees below 45 degrees F. If it’s regularly below 45 and you get snow, and intend to run only one set of tires, you need “All-weather” tires (named All-season in Europe) That are 3PMSF rated. The last set he reviewed (the Nokian LT3) is a dedicated “Winter” tire (cold/snow) and with studs it’s considered an “Arctic” or “Nordic” tire (ice/cold/snow). You can get the LT3 without studs, but you should never run it year-round. The compound is too soft for temps above 45 and it’s not a good tire for dry/wet roads when it’s warm. While 9 of the tires he reviewed have decent packed snow performance for All-terrains (better than anything else out there), and the studded versions give 2 of those legitimate winter snow/ice performance, only the LT3 is dedicated winter and I can attest the snow/ice performance is a VERY large margin better than the rest.
The most unscientific opinionated tire video goes too…… 🙄 Props to guys like “Tyre Reviews” who actually test tires any get out of their warm cozy shops.
Sorry man, I don't have the patience to watch 35 min of video with no summary of the tires against one another. I couldn't even skip around to find what was needed.
I hate the changes they made to the AT4W. Worse winter performance and way heavier. I loved the AT3W but now I have to find another tire when mine finish wearing out. They should have made a different tire for heavy duty trucks instead of ruining the AT3W.
IF you loved the at3w check out the rubitrek... it's performance and compound are basically identical to the AT3w.... I wouldn't run them on bigger then a 1/2 ton... but for smaller trucks and SUV's its an awesome tire.
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Love my Hakkapeliitta LT3 on my fulltime 4WD FJ Cruiser during the winter months.
Excellent review! In any discussion of tires for use in winter, I don’t think you can ever emphasize enough the HUGE difference between a dedicated winter tire like the Nokian LT3 and the rest. I use this tire, and like his wife, it’s the one I trust to keep me and my family safe when regularly driving in snowy/icy conditions. It hooks up in packed snow and ice almost as good as a regular tire in the dry.
While 9 of the tires reviewed have what you might call “acceptable” packed snow performance for All-terrains (and better than anything else out there), and the studded versions give 2 of these legitimate winter snow/ice performance, only the LT3 has excellent cold/snow/ice performance (and in the stud-less version excellent cold/snow, good ice).
He aludes to it, but it’s also worth highlighting that all-weather and winter tires are not just for snow. They are designed for cold weather where temps are regularly below 45°F (7°C). The rubber compound in the tires are specifically formulated to stay soft and maintain their performance at colder temperatures. Where a summer or all-season or regular all-terrain tire will get hard as rock.
Great video. Longtime nokian hakkapeliitta fan here for dedicated winter tire. Its surprisingly good on forest service roads gravel/mud. Run 235/80r17 in '18 4runner for winter
We don't even get snow where we live, I just enjoy your tire videos. Good watch.
Thanks 👍 Appreciate the support.
Great video. No snow or ice here but wet traction video would be right up my Alley
Looking forward to Nokian results. On road manners too. Thanks!
Love my Duratrak’s. I was trying to get them stuck in a 3 foot snowfall & never got ‘em stuck. Great in the rain & run em throughout the summer. Hard pack, loose, wet snow & dirt or mud, they bite & go. Running a 1st Gen Lincoln Aviator.
Love them on my 2016 XL F-250 4x4. In all occasions.
I'm getting my wife a pair of dedicated winter tires for her truck.
We live in North Dakota. Roads are ice covered most of the time.
Getting some 275/60R20 Blizzak DM-V2's this next Wednesday.
I liked the AT3WA's we had on the ram. We got 65k miles out of a 50k mile tire.
I'm probably going to put AT4W's on it in the spring. I bet we get over 75k miles out of them.
Awesome video! I too like the General Grabber ATX with studs as a winter tire and installed a set last year on my wifes Yukon Denali for winter use with studs because she likes the confidence they instill. I had also installed a set of the Generals on my daughters 2003 Duramax pickup a few years ago with the prior set being Goodyear Duratracs. Hands down the Generals were much better than the Duratracs especially after the Duratracs had worn a bit because the sipes were not full depth. I used to have access to Nokians and they are great tires, but my warehouse discontinued them. Another great choice is the General Altimax artic that has a tread design similar to the Nokians, directional and pinned for studs. The Hankook I Pike was another great winter tire in normal tire sizes but they haven't been available for the last two years, so I am not sure of the issue with them. Fireston Winterforce is another directional studable winter tire that perform well. My favorite all terrain tire for everything is the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T, I have many sets on customer's trucks and they all love them with the exception of mileage loss due to the weight. I am intrigued by the new Nitto, it looks good, but I have had bad luck with Nitto tires holding up on Wyoming roads due to the chip seal on the asphalt, they just don't seem to last well. I am interested to see how they hold up for you! Right now I am testing two different sets of tires on my personal 23 Duramax Denali Dually, one set of the Falken A/T4 in 255/80R17 and another set of Toyo R/T trail in 255/80R17. First experience with the Falken A/T4 is that I have rebalanced them three times in about 5,000 miles. They are much noisier than I expected at slow speeds but quiet down as I go faster. They don't seem to be wearing great, as they have gone from 17/32 to 14/32nds on the rears and 15/32nds on the fronts. The Toyo's probably aren't doing any better with about the same wear on the rears with similar mileage, but the Toyo's have much better off road traction in this size. Most of my miles on this truck are towing heavy. Hopefully we get more snow this year than last year for some good comparisions, because last year we had very little snow.
I’m blown away that you rate KO2s so well for snow wheeling. I’ve driven tens of thousands of miles in all sorts of snow in Scandinavia and the US. I can’t think of a worse winter tire than the KO2. They’re outright dangerous on snow/ice and wet conditions. I’m on ky second set of KO2s in my 5th gen 4Runner, and they are wonderful tires for off roading. Strong, durable, and dependable. But snow and ice? Outright dangerous.
Ko2 is rated low from me on Wet conditions for sure... ice it is average (KO3 is much better) but for snow wheeling I think maybe we are talking different things... I am talking in 3-5 feet of snow where your mission is to float and maintain snow on snow contact... a 39" BFG running at 2-4 PSI is a remarkable Snow wheeling tire.
Ok it makes more sense, I can’t comment on deep snow wheeling but on snowed in road with packed snow I agree with Henri they are just down right dangerous. I had to switch to dedicated winter tire for commuting. To me they don’t deserve their 3 snow peak rating at all
I guess you’re running bead locks if you can air down to 2-4 psi. With non bead locked 32” tires, I can’t go down that low.
I also have KO2 for summer - they are very, very bad in rain, snow etc.
For winter I use Yokohama's BluEarth Winter tyres that are far, far better.
Given my 2.5 years experience with BFG K02 I shall replace them in the spring with Falken AT4W.
Agree with your assessment of the Nokian outpost. Ran it for a year and a half on my 200 series. Great in deeper snow, rode well, quiet at speeds, but poor poor performance in hardpack snow and ice. After one too many letdowns in the CO high country I bought some actual winter tires. General grabber artic LT. I’d never run a true snow tire before. It’s like cheat mode. It’s ridiculously good in those hardpack snowy/icy situations. Just wish it came in larger sizes. Did not opt for studded as I see a variety of conditions, but you can stud them. I can only imagine how crazy good those hakkapelitas are! I also share the same experience with KO2s in deep snow.
Yokohama Geolander AT-XD. I don't expect it to be best but its a commercial HD tire. Just put them on my 19 power wagon after having the X-AT's for 55k miles and loving them.
I am a big fan of a lot of companies commercial tires for larger trucks... Toyo has a couple I really like.
Good timing on this video. My gladiator I’m on 37” ko2’s and I snow wheel occasionally and often in deeper than a foot of snow, I really don’t like the winter highway performance. The Nokian is tempting but it’s small. I like the duratrac rt as well but again small. The general atx might be worth looking into. I’m way into the far north of B.C so we get-40 temps and blizzard dry snow and lots of really hard ice
I’m surprised the Coopers are not included In this test, they are an excellent tire.
TFL did a short test of the AT4W and KO3 in the snow. And on braking the AT4W braked 100 ft past the KO3. Pretty interesting result they got.
I have seen the test results from multiple 3rd part companies that only test tires and none of them reflect TFL's results... so my hunch is TFL isn't using a ver scientific method of testing braking.
@OutdoorAuto , yeah they run the truck down the same stretch of road and slam the brakes on.
The second tire is running on the ice created by the first tire.
Nothing scientific about it.
Those guys are just out screwing around trying to create content.
TFL don't have a clue. That was an absolute unscientific test that doesn't line up with any other published test results. Rather than accept that fact and not publish, they put out the bs video for clicks. Lost a lot of credibility from that.
Oh awesome, the exact content video I desire. Driving on snow is key for me in tire selection.
I hear Firestone upped their game with their Destination XTs
Was hyped to see this video until I realized there is no objective test data and it is 100% speculation. +1 for Tyre Reviews content.
Big miss by not having the new Bridgestone A/T Ascent, they look to have the most potential for winter/snow capability of any A/T tire. Great review though!
Be good to know how the Falken RT manages in snow and all around, as that is generally lighter than most other RT tires and seems a decent choice.
I love the RT for offroad but it is not great in most winter conditions
Hi, I live in Canada. We have a store here called Canadian tire and they sell their own Name brand of tires which are called Motormaster. They have an All-terrain. tire that is called the motor master eliminator x trail. They are made by Cooper tire. I would love to know what you think of them.
I was literally just going through your videos on this subject!!!!!!!! Cheers
Awesome
Love these tires reviews, keep them coming. Good information, I am leaning toward a set of AT4W for my next set.
Check out “the fast lane” they tested 3 tires and the Falken AT4 sucked in snow
Really wish you’d do a video on Firestone Destination X/Ts
Yay! I've been watching for this video ever since I emailed you about winter traction! Thanks so much!
Can you guys get a set of Cooper Discoverer Stronghold ATs?
There isn't a good review of them on RUclips and I really like your format and presentation.
Everyone I've talked to locally hasn't had them long enough to really say, but that they ride good, balance well. They are a new tire as of June this year and Coopers Road + Trail tire has more attention even tho it's arguably a milder AT
The biggest thing preventing me from looking at the Duratrac RTs is how shallow the sipes are. While most others use full depth sipes, Goodyear does not. What use is great winter traction if you lose it after 20,000 miles?
overall the goodyears issues is related to wear... it gets really loud, it had issues with uneven wear... I think as a dedicated snow/winter tire it is good because it essentially date codes out before it wears out... but for a tire you will wear down to the wear lines... there are better options.
@@OutdoorAuto yeah, I mean I won't run my tires below like 6/32nds. Still, I just need the winter performance to be great throughout the life of the tire because I use my truck to get up to the Colorado mountains for skiing/snowboarding and also winter camp a lot. If not for those sipes I might have tried them.
need to review the bridgestone dueler a/t ascent.
If enough people say this... I am pretty sure it will happen... I have never run them but they look like they would go in the "Road Focused" AT.... which I tend to not review a lot of tires from... Main Reason is at a certain point if people are really only going to do road then they should get winter specilist tires and seasonally switch with summer tires.
Glad I found your channel.. Great info, well presented. Thanks for the time and effort you put into these.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback.
I was hoping the falken rubitrek would be on this list. I know you have ran them before.
Where do Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T fit in for you?
I would run those for off-road heavy overlanding and overlanding in the south or east to help with the mud. They are incredible tires... just know you are going to get 50K at best....
Given you mentioned buying ten sets of tires, is there a future video coming out with an attempt at collecting objective data comparing winter performance? It would be great to see data collecting on acceleration/ braking on compact snow, ice, and deep snow. Sitting there speculating is borderline useless.
From what i could tell, these all looked like e rated ats.. Having a smaller truck, Tacoma, and probably going with an SL or possibly C rated tire, because it spends 95% of the time on pavement in a very wet climate (Oregon).. Would you say these selections behave, have the same strengths and weaknesses, in an SL rating as an E rating and being under the impression that an E rated tire would be too stiff and uncomfortable on a smaller truck..?
For winter (and it's about low temperatures, not only about snow and ice) only the winter tyres are safe enough.
Testing the AT (kind of all-seasons) tyres for winter is pretty stupid, as any good driver should go for dedicated winter tyres for winter.
The all-seasons/weather are very dangerous for real winter - they may be good for areas without real winter (not going to freezing temperatures), but not having winter tyres going North is really unsafe, thus dumb.
no coopers no toyos?
Will get to them eventually... can only test so many tires a year 😳
@@OutdoorAuto o ok, i was suprised, because the toyos are also a good winter performer
The Kuhmo's don;t have sipes that go all the way through the tread. That tire's performance will be greatly reduced after 10k miles or so.
Are you thinking the old AT51? The AT52 has full depths sipes as far as what I measured. Make sure if you are checking sipe depth you have to generally measure the middle of the sipe... some have closed out ends to create "suction sipes" for wet traction...
The BfG. Trail ta is ok new BUT SUCK IN RAIN AFTER HALF WORN. Had them on a Toyota Tacoma. NEVER NEVER. AGAIN. Bfg AT. Better
You should do the Kenda Klever RT. I have yet to find a tire that's better for the price and performs excellent in all terrain. It has pre drilled holes for studs as well. Kenda didn't give it the 3 peak snow rating due to 1 or 2 sizes not making the requirements. The rest of the sizes did. I recently moved from Vancouver, WA, to Casper, WY. The Kendas are not popular in Washington, but in Casper, they are very popular.
I'm working on that one... I think Simple Tire is going to help me get some of kenda's lineup to test.
@OutdoorAuto Awesome! That's where I recently bought mine to put on my Xterra to move out to Casper with. I would love to know how their new MT2 tire is as well. I think it looks amazing! I will be looking out for that video if your able to get it done. You do an excellent job man. Keep it up!
The last tire was almost perfect.
But I want a all season tire and I can't run studs in 3 seasons..
They make an unstuded version of that tire...
If you’re in the US you shouldn’t run an “All-season” tire year-round unless you are in a climate zone that rarely sees below 45 degrees F. If it’s regularly below 45 and you get snow, and intend to run only one set of tires, you need “All-weather” tires (named All-season in Europe) That are 3PMSF rated. The last set he reviewed (the Nokian LT3) is a dedicated “Winter” tire (cold/snow) and with studs it’s considered an “Arctic” or “Nordic” tire (ice/cold/snow). You can get the LT3 without studs, but you should never run it year-round. The compound is too soft for temps above 45 and it’s not a good tire for dry/wet roads when it’s warm.
While 9 of the tires he reviewed have decent packed snow performance for All-terrains (better than anything else out there), and the studded versions give 2 of those legitimate winter snow/ice performance, only the LT3 is dedicated winter and I can attest the snow/ice performance is a VERY large margin better than the rest.
The most unscientific opinionated tire video goes too…… 🙄 Props to guys like “Tyre Reviews” who actually test tires any get out of their warm cozy shops.
Sorry man, I don't have the patience to watch 35 min of video with no summary of the tires against one another. I couldn't even skip around to find what was needed.
I hate the changes they made to the AT4W. Worse winter performance and way heavier. I loved the AT3W but now I have to find another tire when mine finish wearing out. They should have made a different tire for heavy duty trucks instead of ruining the AT3W.
IF you loved the at3w check out the rubitrek... it's performance and compound are basically identical to the AT3w.... I wouldn't run them on bigger then a 1/2 ton... but for smaller trucks and SUV's its an awesome tire.
@OutdoorAuto they don't make them in the size I run on my overland truck. ☹️
@@OutdoorAuto that new Nitto looks promising though.
Try the Outpost NAT. It's similar to the AT3w but better winter performance and fuel economy.
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