I’m not going to look through the comments and I don’t care what anyone says. I literally watched this video this morning, bought the parts, and fixed this myself. Proven to work and that’s all that matters to me. Thank you.
@@bossmoves7361 Why would there be a saddle valve? If a person is installing new or repairing. Humm I guess I understand why you haven't had an answer in three months. Not trying to be mean jes saying.
The real beauty here is that both of your alternatives are not that much harder to install than the saddle valve. Plus if you want to undo this, although I cannot think of why, you do not have to repair the pipe. This is a WIN WIN WIN method, thank you.
As a chemistry teacher who is attempting installing a water line to the fridge, I appreciate the real-life chemistry you've included in your explanation of why not to use a saddle valve! Great visual as well.
Thank God for you and for your video, I'm not in the business of remodeling but I was trying to hookup a water supply line for the fridge but didn't like the idea of using a saddle valve. I was beginning to think that I was crazy for not trusting the saddle valve, until I saw your video gave me some great reason not to use them.
Without a doubt, this is a very professionally done video. Clear, concise, accurate information is what I was looking for, and this, sir, certainly fit the bill. I was hesitant to remove and old SV (on the copper pipe under the kitchen sink, but currently not in use) but now I want to remove that old ticking time bomb asap. I know about shark bite, and I've used them with success, but the "Rolls-Royce" dual cut-off valve looks like the way to go to me, for my particular job (very limited space). Thank you so much for your time and talent. Stay safe!
THANK YOU!!! I have had the illegal contraption in my junk drawer for years. I have been scared to install it because I did not feel it was safe. I am so happy I came across this video before our new frig install. Great video.
Would love to see an alternative technique which replicates the typical scenario where a saddle valve is used such as on an existing pipe running in the basement without the convenience of the end of a pipe as demonstrated in these two alternatives. I would like to replace the saddle valves the previous owner used for bother the furnace humidifier and the water dispenser but those are taps off of the cold water pipe on on both sides of the water heater pipe. nether of these "end" fittings work for this common scenario.
Check out here on YT Big Guy DIY “how to add an ice line”. He shows how to use a tee fitting that’s (if your pipe is actually 1/2” and check for if it’s (OD) outer diameter or (ID) inner diameter to be sure you find the right fitting but he used a shark bite tee fitting 1/2”x1/2”x1/4”. Be sure to have the right copper pipe cutter meant for a range of pipe sizes (found at Home Depot or any hardware store) and you’ll measure on the shark it’s connector how much to cut off your copper pipe. It’s much easier if you head to his channel and watch the detailed step by steps that he does for himself. You’ll have to remove the saddle or cut that part off but it’s much easier than soldering and I’m sure less headache. I did see that you need to check what kind of copper pipe it is: (ASTM B88) for this shark bite fitting
You saved me alot of trouble with this tip. My house was built in 1970. The previous owner did no renovations. I had the copper line for ice maker that snapped. I installed this and used a braided line to run from under the kitchen sink to the fridge. Now I have ice and water from my fridge. 😁
Dude, great video. I loved it!!! I am getting a new refridge and my house is old. I know I want an icemaker and this dual valve just saved me hundreds, yes hundreds. The ice-maker kit was over 100.00 and I can install this valve. Hopefully I have a cooper pipe sticking under the sink but not sure. House is over 50 years old.
Excellent Video,well explained and i highly recommend these instructions. Saved me a $90.00 charge. i got my valve alternative fix by watching and following this video.Thank you.
THANK YOU! I am a notorious DIYer, my husband and I are very handy and I cannot justify a plumber for something like this (and to be honest most plumbers won’t come out for something this basic). I knew saddle valve was not great but the second you said “so think about chemistry” I was like YIKES okay what’s the alternative! Returning my saddle valve and going to get the adapter you first showed. I can handle that! Easier than saddle valve!
Just finished… took me 30 minutes including having to route the line through the cabinets in a nice hidden way and checking for leaks. Thank you so so much!!
Thanks so much for this post. I was thinking of how I was going to sweat in a new shutoff, etc and hated the idea of those lousy saddle valves to run my new fridge water line. The adapter is such a simple solution. The dual valve even better. Didn't know either were available! Your point of how temporary solutions become permanent is pure gold and so true 😉
I appreciate you making this video! I bought a new fridge and dishwasher, and going to hook everything up there was a saddle valve installed. I went out and bought the duel valve 1/4 and 3/8 will be perfect because my dishwasher and fridge are on the same side of kitchen on their own water line! So perfect love it! Thanks
Wait you're not thinking of using the 3/8 for the dishwasher and the 1/4 for the icemaker off the same line are you? Icemaker should be off of the cold water line, while the dishwasher should be off of the hot.
@@buckyswider1 I did quite a bit of research about which water line to use for the ice maker. And it really comes down to personal choice. Also my ice water line has been on the hot before I bought the 🏠!
@@joshuaknights30 Interesting! A quick google reveals quite a controversy on this subject, with some asserting that the hot water is 'cleaner', others saying it's 'dirtier', and some saying it makes zero difference. And I guess my assumption was that lots of fridges these days have water dispensers. Def don't want hot water running to that!!! But I guess as far as temp goes, it makes no difference for ice only- by the time you consume that 'water', it will be plenty cold!!
Thank you for posting these. I have two saddle valves that have been in for over 10 years and I don't have any real problems, but I don't love them or anything. I've always wanted some alternative and I would have never, ever guessed that option #1 was available. Makes me wonder why they don't just include those with the kits instead of the saddle valves. Sure would have been a lot cleaner, and you can turn off the cold or hot (for the dishwasher) water with the regular turn off for the sink.
Very helpful. Thank you. In the end, this (adapter method) turned out to be the most sensible way to connect our new fridge to a water source. Glad to have avoided the saddle valve; in our previous house there we 5 'orphaned' saddle valves beneath the kitchen from previous owners.
Excellent presentation and once again 100% correct. That second valve is the cat's meow, their coming up with some pretty cool stuff these days. You could almost give a demo on the 5 in one wrenches, I might have to get on the tools again just so I use one. Cheers. Illinois Plumbing Code: No pipe or fitting of the water supply system shall be drilled or tapped nor 2391 shall any band or saddle be used International Plumbing code: 605.9 Prohibited joints and connections. The following types of joints and connections shall be prohibited:4. Saddle-type fittings U.P.C.: pretty much the same, oh there is one thing most codes have a provision that if you do anything to contravene the code it turns into a punishable offense, and no legitimately licenced plumber would risk his license to put in on of those self piercing valves, those are usually good for the scrap bucket.
I do HVAC and those are similar yo piercing valves which are temporary. Any plumber should never argue wuth what you said as the first thungs I learned when dealing with water cooled equipment is being very careful with dissimilar metals on piping amd if you have to using dielectric fittings to prevent as much corrosion as possible. Saddle valves are temp valves or where a leak wont matter. Great video!
Excellent video. I do RV plumbing which is mostly PEX. These saddle valves are garbage on them too. It ovals the tubing, then as they age, the rubber saddle seal hardens. When I come in to do a little plumbing, brush up against or disturb it in some way, it often begins leaking!
Thanks for that info on the PEX because I haven't used PEX yet and so I always figured well maybe it would not be as harmful on PEX as it would be on Copper where it would corrode on the metal pipes. Now I see what you were saying how the oval distortion could cause problems and I never even thought about the drying rubber.
My question was if it’s against building code why do big stores sell the kit? You answered my question!! We bought a new refrigerator that has ice maker so I bought the install kit from Lowe’s prior to installing I came across you video and I am glad I did!!! Thank you so much, the fitting I decided to go with was much easier to install plus it is legal...great video, keep them coming!! New subscriber here!
You are eloquent. Your #2 solution is elegant. Thanks for your former video on 4 fixtures never to use & this high utility video on the legal options for 1st time connections of ice maker line to a cold water line.
Thank- you, Thank YOU, THANK YOU!!!! I’m installing a water line to the refrigerator today & just didn’t feel good about the “IV line” procedure puncturing a copper tube (I’m a doctor). The potential complications are tremendous. Kinda like placing an intraosseous line in the tibia. You want to do it right the first time but are wrought with problems if not done correctly.
Great video. I’m dealing with a corroded saddle valve right now put on right above an Hvac duct. Impossible to get to without major effort. These are definitely not the way to add a water line. Thanks for showing the alternative solutions
The very first video I saw on running a ice line was for the saddle valve then I came across your video I’m so glad I didn’t stop at the saddle valve video these seem much easier and I don’t have to climb under my house thank you
Great thorough video and explanations. What do you suggest to replace a saddle valve that is coming off of my hot water heater to the house humidifier? Maybe you could do a video on it?
Thank you- I just learned something new. I have been using Saddle valves for over 20 years to ONLY drain pipes that supplies water to outdoor faucets. Am I in violation of the NYS code?
I don't know if the code covers outside or not it's just that when I see it in the code and it says what is not allowed and it's a saddle type fittings that to me since we shouldn't be using them at all
Just what I needed to see! One question tho, if I add the part under my kitchen sink, how do I repair the saddle valve? Will I, should I get a plumber for this job? Saddle valve located in the basement above a cabinet, hard to reach/repair.
I would cut off water to the house, drain that line as much as possible, and cut through that pipe where the saddle valve was and put a copper pipe coupling there, that pin hole needs to be removed.
Thank you! I am a handyman and never liked the idea of a saddle valve whether it's code or not. It just didn't make sense to me to make a permanent hole in a pipe. Using the valve adaptor is a way better solution!
Awesome video! I don't have a saddle valve coming off my hot water heater, but I need to add a second ice maker line. I currently have a Sharkbite shutoff valve for the ice maker. Do they make a dual valve for 2 icemakers? Thanks.
Question.. What to do if there's a need for third connection? I have a filtered water system, ice maker line and a faucet that need to be connected. Would it be feasible to use both the 1st and 2nd options? Great video, and even better information!! Spend a little more for peace of mind in the long run.
I'm glad I watched this. I was just about to install one. Seems like an easy fix though.. add another piece of rubber on the underside, plus galvanized or brass screws, no?
Jeff, I just got a new fridge delivered and when they were removing the old one I noticed a copper supply line was connected. I checked under my sink and noticed there was a saddle valve which I am unsure if it works or not. Prior to this, I was already considering installing the valve adapter solution you described. My question to you is, what is the best way for me to proceed? Should I leave the saddle in place, make sure it's fully closed and go the valve adapter route?
I can appreciate a lot about this video and I agree with you entirely Jeff. It would be helpful, however, to have instructions for lay individuals on how to replace these awful existing saddle valves. The reason(s) that so many of these crappy valves remain in properties is because of the plumbing work which is involved to install a proper valve. Most homeowners are too unsure of themselves (me included) to cut/sweat a 'T' for the installation of a proper valve. Jeff....howsabout a video for that?
Just found a severely corroded saddle valve on my hot water heater pipe. Rubber was compressed and hard and cracked. Had to hacksaw the bolts, never again. Good info, Thanks!
Could you please instruct what to do if a saddle valve has already been installed for an ice maker? I understand there is a hole from the saddle valve in the pipe now,. Please instruct how to remedy the situation & use one of your methods. Thanks!
Yes I can, you have to cut that section of copper pipe out where the hole is, and I would solder in a copper T fitting, and solder in a small 3-4" pipe length, so that you can add the correct 1/4 turn ball compression valve right there where you T'd off of the water pipe.
@@jeffostroff Thanks for your response. That sounds too complicated for us to do ourselves, as we don't solder. Are we stuck with the saddle valve and really low pressure in our fridge water dispenser if we opt not to use a plumber? And if we got a plumber to do it your way, how much would it cost?
Enjoyed the video just curious what do you do with the saddle valve that's already there. My saddle valve is located under the cold water shut off? will it leak since the pipe has a hole in it. Sorry if the questions seem dumb maybe I missed something
So is a copper saddle valve an acceptable solution if you don't have tools and need to do something about a brass saddle valve, and do you need to get plastic on both sides to prevent all contact in such a case?
No Adam sorry the idea of piercing a pressure pipe like that on from the outside is just not a good idea and in fact that's why it's banned by plumbing code, and if your insurance company ever performs a four point inspection on your house and sees it they will force you to remove it or they will drop you from the policy. The best course of action which is what most professional plumbers do is they will cut that pipe and insert a T fitting in there and then put a little stub of copper pipe on that T fitting and then add a compression fitting water shutoff valve on there. It's a pretty fast and easy job for the guys that do this all the time for you you could just watch a few videos on how to do it and do it yourself it's not that hard.
Great vídeo as usual! The ice maker hook ups are problems. I was using the plastic tubing ten years no problem . New fridge 8 months in got a pinhole behind the wall👎🏼! Stainless steel hose and a brass cutoff for me😃 Greetings from NYC👍🏼🗽
jeffostroff thanks but that’s not my question. I have the water line for the fridge tapped into a nearby pipe with a saddle valve. Is there a fitting to use at this pipe instead of the saddle valve?
jeffostroff I did but both parts you show are connected by the sink faucet. I’m asking what can I use at the existing pipe that has the saddle valve. I’m trying to do that rather than run to the sink which is a distance from the fridge. Thanks.
@@tdz69 Cut out the old saddle valve, and put a copper T-fitting there, and then install a small stub of copper pipe soldered to the tee fitting. Then on the end of that copper pipe stub, compression install the shutoff valve that has the 1/4" output for the ice maker.
Well i bought tge saddle valve kit at menards. Saw some videos with people not likeing but 🤷♂️ eh i wasn't convinced. But after Your actually visual example though.... im out of 10$ i guess. Back to the hardware store, you sold me on the second hook up lol. Thank you for the video
Jeff I “ only“ Have pex /shark bite (Blue/red plastic water lines , due to the fact that someone stole all the copper piping just before I moved into my house). How do you connect your refrigerator waterline to pex/ shark bite???
See if pex has a pex valve, or you could get a sharkbite pex to copper coupler, and use our normal methods to install a compression fitting valve onto the copper pipe.
Was about to use one of these today the i thought of how trashy this contraption is and threw it in the trash....im glad i did and thank you for the video
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Thanks for the helpful video! One question, can solution 2 (with the dual shut off valves) work for a inline humidifier that’s connected to the cold water under a sink? I need to be able to get the water down to a low trickle to not flood the humidifier. Thanks!
Good video, but I do have one question. What if a home owner finds they have a saddle valve and wants to remove and replace it the correct way? Most homeowners can figure out what to do if they have a nice clean piece of copper to work with. In many cases though they can remove the valve which leaves a hole of course, and it doesn't leave enough room to cut that piece off and start new. So now what? What viable saddle valve repair/replacement options should someone look for?
Yes you can do it but it's a bit of work! The washing machine water pipe ends with a threaded hose spigot. so I would cut off the spigot, put a copper T-fitting, then re-solder on a small 1/2" copper pipe stub out and a new hose spigot to one side of the T-fitting. Then solder on a small copper stub out and install a compression shut off valve 1/4" on the other side of the T for the ice maker line, as we showed you in this video. No you'll have independently controlled water shutoff for you washer and icemaker.
I wish you would demonstrate actually switching out a saddle valve that is in the center of one long copper pipe rather than an easy end fitting scenario, I appreciate this video and your efforts very much I just know mine and many others are saddled in a place that requires removing of the saddle and cutting or soldering on tee fittings
Thanks for a great videa and advice Jeff. However I have a saddle valve in the basement, and the ice line goes up from there. I am not sure how to connect to the that pipe and have a connection to the ice line. Also, how do you plug a hole in a pipe after removing a saddle valve?
You don't plug a hole in a pipe after removing the saddle valve. You cut away the section of pipe or the saddle valve was and you insert a copper tea fitting and make a little stub out of copper pipe which you can then attach a water shutoff valve too
@@jeffostroff I'm not understanding. Is there soldering involved? I was thinking about using something called a shark-bite, but don't think I should be bending the copper line to insert a SharkBite cuz it could break a connection on it at one of the ends of the copper line.. Can you help a little on this? Thanks. Great video and I subscribed.
How would you go about stopping/plugging the end? I recently got a new fridge and had to move the location bc of size; now my copper line has a constant drip. Trying to think of a good way to plug it. Doesn’t have a valve on it; saddle right at the water heater
I have a stupid saddle valve. My question is do u have a how to video to replace the saddle valve with a different option? I'm guessing to use a compression fitting id have to cut the pipe?
A lot of people ask me that I should work on a video for that some time period really all you have to do is cut on either side of the hole and then slip in the t fitting and then a little stub of copper pipe and then a compression valve on the end of that stub out
I have a humidifier that was hook up with one of these to my water heater pipe and it leaked so I’ve shut it down and not used it for years. Just ran into your video thanks for info.
I can’t seem to find the dual stop adapter anywhere online. This looks like a fantastic solution! Do you happen to have a link to the part, or could you possibly tell me how to search for it? Thank you.
Imo the haters are mostly plumbers being pissed about regular people being able to watch how to videos like this, lowering their demand for simple jobs. Not just plumbers. At first I also would be annoyed if I were a plumber but instead of wasting time complaining I'd ridirect that time and energy to start thinking of new creative ways to create more demand for my services. Like creative cross marketing. But that's just me and my opinion. Nothing wrong with people having opinions. Great video!
There are still plenty of repairs that plumbers can do which homeowners cannot do they will always have plenty of business believe me and a leak in the middle of the light at the end of the day or on a holiday weekend, and most people are panicked and don't have the time to learn or figure out what tools they need to go by they know it's going to be cheaper to just get the plumber
Jeff, What do you recommend for replacing a saddle valve that has corroded on a whole house bypass humidifier? The 1/4" water line that feeds the solenoid is fed from a saddle valve that is connected to my cold water feed to the water heater. It's work I'm going to have to have a plumber do, unless you think I can just replace the existing saddle valve. But, everything I see from your videos leads me to believe I can't remove the old one and replace with a new saddle value because it probably would leak. Just as @ItzFuazz said, it sounds like I'd have to have a plumber cut in a section of the existing line with a Tee fitting.
I would not recommend replacing it with another saddle valve once you've pierced a hole in that pipe who knows whether the other saddle valve can fill it effectively or not anyway. So much better to just have somebody come in that will cut that bad suction out of the pipe, and saw her on a T fitting, and then a small stub of pipe, and then ask for 1/4 turn ball valve with a quarter inch output to feed your ice maker line
Somebody has to crawl under there and get to it. Basically what they do is cut the copper pipe, and then they saw her on AT adapterAnd then they could put their copper stuff out on the tea adapter for which they can put the valve at the end. I am going to do a video on this very soon
@jeffostroff I'd like to see that. I have the saddle valve on a copper pipe myself. I have to get it capped or my fridge install won't be done. Too many other things under the sink to be so simple: RO system, garbage disposal - going to get a handyman.
So I'm not getting how the ice line goes all the way from under the kitchen sink over to the fridge. Does that mean running it through the walls? Also, Can I use the dual valve on the copper pipe that sticks out of the wall behind the fridge instead? It's only like an inch off the ground tho. I have to have a cutoff valve within 6 feet of the fridge to have my new fridge/ice maker hooked up. Right now it is just a capped off copper pipe behind the fridge. (this was capped when I had a leak/flood about 15 yrs ago) What would you suggest? thx
I am replacing a refrigerator that has been in use for 14 yrs. The saddle valve is installed to the copper pipe which is located on the lower level, with the ice maker water line fed thru the floor behind the refrigerator. This has not been a problem, but the dealer has told me I need a shut off directly behind the refrigerator. What kind of valve do I need to install to replace the saddle valve?
Jeff. I, too, have been trying to find a connector that will allow me to adjust the flow into my icemaker separately from the flow to my sink. My only problem is that I ALSO need a 3/8" connector to my dishwasher hose. Can I modify this valve with some sort of splitter so I can have one valve control the icemaker and another control 2 - 3/8" connectors? Or is there a different valve that you can recommend? Any suggestions? Please help. I really trust your advice.
You need to have these adapter valves on both the cold water side for the ice maker, and on the hot water side for the dishwasher which must be connected to hot water. We did another video that actually shows this install in the kitchen we worked on several months ago take a look at it here ruclips.net/video/_0ziKhjwwe8/видео.html
for the double valve method is that metal also not brass, and would eventually lead to galvanic corrosion as well? if it was such a bad thing for the saddle valve wouldn't the same be true for this as well?
@@jeffostroff which leads to my next question would putting a rubber piece of material on the other side help prevent the galvanic corrosion? don't get me wrong i don't think these saddle taps are a great idea, but there could be things done to them to make them less of an issue at least with how prevalent they are.
What should i do if i don’t have a faucet on the same wall as the frig? I have a saddle valve connected to a water line in the wall behind the frig. What is the best replacement?
I would cut a hole in the drwyall, tap into that line with the appropriate copper fittings and put an icemaker outlet box in that hole in the wall behind the fridge.
how long have saddle valves been banned. My home was built in 2000 (Colorado) and has one of these for the water line to the fridge. Was this missed by the inspector?
that might help, but you still have the pierced pipe to worry about, and what if the screws are cheap metal in contact with the saddles that could also cause corrosion, and if there's ever any humidity in the area, it can cause corrosion, leading to failure.
If I remove my saddle valve and use one of the simple fixes that you've suggested, is there a simple repair for the hole left in the copper pipe from the saddle valve? Also...what about a SharkBite fitting?
It is a simple repair, if you know how to solder copper pipes which isn't too bad to learn how to do. But essentially they would have to cut out that little section with the whole and solder in a new T fitting, and then you would Sutter in a couple of inches of corporate pipe into the T part of that fitting , and then you could install a compression fitting valve at that point and the good thing about having the compression fitting valve is anybody can do that, and if it ever fails in the future anybody can easily unscrew that compression fitting valve and screw on a new one. Most plumbers agree that SharkBite fittings are not quite as reliable however if it's out in the open somewhere or like in a basement where you would definitely see it if it drips probably OK to do I only use shark bites as a temporary solution until I can go and get a real part
I just recently removed one of these after watching this video. It may have been 30+ years old, but I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to shut it off because it was stuck open. After it was off, I found that the piercing pin did break off so I was glad it’s now gone. I used a 1/2” compression inlet with 1/4” output valve along with a soldered tee fitting.
Could you provide a solution for this situation? HVAC installer crimped off copper tubing from saddle valve in cold water supply pipe to water heater and put one on the verticals hot water out pipe from water heater. Old one is corroded and leaked after they left but with several more crimps I got it to stop leaking. But new saddle valve is even cheaper than old one and is already corroding after a couple years. These valves are connected to a small diameter copper tubing that feeds the whole house humidifier. What could I replace these with? At least the newer one on the hot water pipe. All piping is copper.
I’m not going to look through the comments and I don’t care what anyone says. I literally watched this video this morning, bought the parts, and fixed this myself. Proven to work and that’s all that matters to me. Thank you.
Well said glad you were able to get it done Julio!
Did you have to remove the saddle valve first
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Why would there be a saddle valve? If a person is installing new or repairing. Humm I guess I understand why you haven't had an answer in three months. Not trying to be mean jes saying.
The pin valve is the lazy and risky way to do it. Shamful
Did yiu have a pin valve? What did you do about that?
The real beauty here is that both of your alternatives are not that much harder to install than the saddle valve. Plus if you want to undo this, although I cannot think of why, you do not have to repair the pipe. This is a WIN WIN WIN method, thank you.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
For a plumbing channel, this is amazing camera work
As a chemistry teacher who is attempting installing a water line to the fridge, I appreciate the real-life chemistry you've included in your explanation of why not to use a saddle valve! Great visual as well.
Glad to help!
One question I have about that is the 2 alternatives are made out of brass also... aren't they?
I was wondering this also. Evidently he didn't see your question.
Thank God for you and for your video, I'm not in the business of remodeling but I was trying to hookup a water supply line for the fridge but didn't like the idea of using a saddle valve. I was beginning to think that I was crazy for not trusting the saddle valve, until I saw your video gave me some great reason not to use them.
Awesome Andrew glad to help
Without a doubt, this is a very professionally done video. Clear, concise, accurate information is what I was looking for, and this, sir, certainly fit the bill. I was hesitant to remove and old SV (on the copper pipe under the kitchen sink, but currently not in use) but now I want to remove that old ticking time bomb asap. I know about shark bite, and I've used them with success, but the "Rolls-Royce" dual cut-off valve looks like the way to go to me, for my particular job (very limited space). Thank you so much for your time and talent. Stay safe!
THANK YOU!!! I have had the illegal contraption in my junk drawer for years. I have been scared to install it because I did not feel it was safe. I am so happy I came across this video before our new frig install. Great video.
Would love to see an alternative technique which replicates the typical scenario where a saddle valve is used such as on an existing pipe running in the basement without the convenience of the end of a pipe as demonstrated in these two alternatives. I would like to replace the saddle valves the previous owner used for bother the furnace humidifier and the water dispenser but those are taps off of the cold water pipe on on both sides of the water heater pipe. nether of these "end" fittings work for this common scenario.
Yes, I am chomping at the bit for this also, I might have to make up a mock scenario on this!
Can’t you make a T in the pipe and put an end fitting on the end of the T?
PPP pop pop up on my own but it 😊😊
Check out here on YT Big Guy DIY “how to add an ice line”. He shows how to use a tee fitting that’s (if your pipe is actually 1/2” and check for if it’s (OD) outer diameter or (ID) inner diameter to be sure you find the right fitting but he used a shark bite tee fitting 1/2”x1/2”x1/4”. Be sure to have the right copper pipe cutter meant for a range of pipe sizes (found at Home Depot or any hardware store) and you’ll measure on the shark it’s connector how much to cut off your copper pipe. It’s much easier if you head to his channel and watch the detailed step by steps that he does for himself. You’ll have to remove the saddle or cut that part off but it’s much easier than soldering and I’m sure less headache. I did see that you need to check what kind of copper pipe it is: (ASTM B88) for this shark bite fitting
They sell a Tee Shark Bite valve that has a 1/4" male to screw your icemaker line to. It's a little pricey ($27) but worth it when in a pinch
You saved me alot of trouble with this tip. My house was built in 1970. The previous owner did no renovations. I had the copper line for ice maker that snapped. I installed this and used a braided line to run from under the kitchen sink to the fridge. Now I have ice and water from my fridge. 😁
awesome, thanks for sharing
@@jeffostroff I still have the saddle valve but it's shut. How do I remove it if I choose to without any issues? Any videos?
Dude, great video. I loved it!!! I am getting a new refridge and my house is old. I know I want an icemaker and this dual valve just saved me hundreds, yes hundreds. The ice-maker kit was over 100.00 and I can install this valve. Hopefully I have a cooper pipe sticking under the sink but not sure. House is over 50 years old.
Excellent Video,well explained and i highly recommend these instructions. Saved me a $90.00 charge. i got my valve alternative fix by watching and following this video.Thank you.
Awesome, glad to help!
Without you I would be putting a hole in my copper pipe. You saved me time, headache and money 👍🏾. Thanks a billion
Glad I could help
I put a saddle valve on my pipe 40 years it still working okay
@@philipsoppe1948 aaaub
THANK YOU! I am a notorious DIYer, my husband and I are very handy and I cannot justify a plumber for something like this (and to be honest most plumbers won’t come out for something this basic). I knew saddle valve was not great but the second you said “so think about chemistry” I was like YIKES okay what’s the alternative! Returning my saddle valve and going to get the adapter you first showed. I can handle that! Easier than saddle valve!
Just finished… took me 30 minutes including having to route the line through the cabinets in a nice hidden way and checking for leaks. Thank you so so much!!
Awesome advice. Bought the preferred solution for my cofee maker. Thank you man! Pro quality advice.
Glad it helped!
Thanks so much for this post. I was thinking of how I was going to sweat in a new shutoff, etc and hated the idea of those lousy saddle valves to run my new fridge water line. The adapter is such a simple solution. The dual valve even better. Didn't know either were available!
Your point of how temporary solutions become permanent is pure gold and so true 😉
Glad it was helpful!
This video deserves WAY more likes!
Thanks Pete!
I appreciate you making this video! I bought a new fridge and dishwasher, and going to hook everything up there was a saddle valve installed. I went out and bought the duel valve 1/4 and 3/8 will be perfect because my dishwasher and fridge are on the same side of kitchen on their own water line! So perfect love it! Thanks
Awesome Joshua, you did it right! This is the Way!
Wait you're not thinking of using the 3/8 for the dishwasher and the 1/4 for the icemaker off the same line are you? Icemaker should be off of the cold water line, while the dishwasher should be off of the hot.
@@buckyswider1 I did quite a bit of research about which water line to use for the ice maker. And it really comes down to personal choice. Also my ice water line has been on the hot before I bought the 🏠!
@@joshuaknights30 Interesting! A quick google reveals quite a controversy on this subject, with some asserting that the hot water is 'cleaner', others saying it's 'dirtier', and some saying it makes zero difference. And I guess my assumption was that lots of fridges these days have water dispensers. Def don't want hot water running to that!!! But I guess as far as temp goes, it makes no difference for ice only- by the time you consume that 'water', it will be plenty cold!!
Thank you for posting these. I have two saddle valves that have been in for over 10 years and I don't have any real problems, but I don't love them or anything. I've always wanted some alternative and I would have never, ever guessed that option #1 was available. Makes me wonder why they don't just include those with the kits instead of the saddle valves. Sure would have been a lot cleaner, and you can turn off the cold or hot (for the dishwasher) water with the regular turn off for the sink.
Very helpful. Thank you. In the end, this (adapter method) turned out to be the most sensible way to connect our new fridge to a water source. Glad to have avoided the saddle valve; in our previous house there we 5 'orphaned' saddle valves beneath the kitchen from previous owners.
Wow, 5 saddle valves showed someone clearly had no clue. Surprised it did not leak.
Excellent presentation and once again 100% correct. That second valve is the cat's meow, their coming up with some pretty cool stuff these days. You could almost give a demo on the 5 in one wrenches, I might have to get on the tools again just so I use one. Cheers.
Illinois Plumbing Code: No pipe or fitting of the water supply system shall be drilled or tapped nor
2391 shall any band or saddle be used
International Plumbing code: 605.9 Prohibited joints and connections. The following
types of joints and connections shall be prohibited:4. Saddle-type fittings
U.P.C.: pretty much the same, oh there is one thing most codes have a provision that if you do anything to contravene the code it turns into a punishable offense, and no legitimately licenced plumber would risk his license to put in on of those self piercing valves, those are usually good for the scrap bucket.
Yes we plan on doing a video for the Ridgid One Stop Wrench
I do HVAC and those are similar yo piercing valves which are temporary. Any plumber should never argue wuth what you said as the first thungs I learned when dealing with water cooled equipment is being very careful with dissimilar metals on piping amd if you have to using dielectric fittings to prevent as much corrosion as possible. Saddle valves are temp valves or where a leak wont matter. Great video!
Excellent video. I do RV plumbing which is mostly PEX. These saddle valves are garbage on them too. It ovals the tubing, then as they age, the rubber saddle seal hardens. When I come in to do a little plumbing, brush up against or disturb it in some way, it often begins leaking!
Thanks for that info on the PEX because I haven't used PEX yet and so I always figured well maybe it would not be as harmful on PEX as it would be on Copper where it would corrode on the metal pipes. Now I see what you were saying how the oval distortion could cause problems and I never even thought about the drying rubber.
I was going to use one on pex and never were told they were bad. Thanks for the great video
I'm sure these would be bad on Pex too.
I 1000% agree with this guy, leaving now to go to the hardware store to get this valve so I can change the junk T valve I just installed. Thanks
Right on Hugh!
Video quality is Next gen. Love that you film at 4k 60fps. Great colour grading too.
Thanks so much Jeff, I was just about to attempt the saddle being a new homeowner and this covers all the issues I thought about! Confirmed my doubts
Glad to help!
Building inspector here, Jeff is 100% correct about saddle valves and their use.
Good to have confirmation
the f/38 / m3/8 / 1/4 fitting blown me away nice video.
My question was if it’s against building code why do big stores sell the kit? You answered my question!! We bought a new refrigerator that has ice maker so I bought the install kit from Lowe’s prior to installing I came across you video and I am glad I did!!! Thank you so much, the fitting I decided to go with was much easier to install plus it is legal...great video, keep them coming!! New subscriber here!
Stores don't know, don't care, it comes from the manufacturer that way and that's how they sell it.
You are eloquent. Your #2 solution is elegant. Thanks for your former video on 4 fixtures never to use & this high utility video on the legal options for 1st time connections of ice maker line to a cold water line.
Glad it was helpful!
Plumber here. Good and informative, appreciate your accurate advice laid out well for everyone to understand. Trust him 👍🏼
Thanks 👍 Jose!
Thanks great advise. Just finished the hookup with the first piece u mentioned. 2 minutes, just make sure your hoses are nicely tighten 👌.
Thank- you, Thank YOU, THANK YOU!!!! I’m installing a water line to the refrigerator today & just didn’t feel good about the “IV line” procedure puncturing a copper tube (I’m a doctor). The potential complications are tremendous. Kinda like placing an intraosseous line in the tibia. You want to do it right the first time but are wrought with problems if not done correctly.
Glad we got you in time Caleb
Thank you for this video. I was researching the use of this valve before and now will spring for the adapter. Thanks much.
Glad I could help good thing we caught you in time Russel!
Wow amazingly presented information (especially the sizes since homeowners rarely know everything)!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
Great video. I’m dealing with a corroded saddle valve right now put on right above an Hvac duct. Impossible to get to without major effort. These are definitely not the way to add a water line. Thanks for showing the alternative solutions
You bet, glad to help
Very educational and easy to understand! Great video and thanks for all the links.
Glad to help cp!
The very first video I saw on running a ice line was for the saddle valve then I came across your video I’m so glad I didn’t stop at the saddle valve video these seem much easier and I don’t have to climb under my house thank you
Glad I could help!
man, these valve methods are WAAAY better! i like the second one for dual valves
great video. quality is excellent as well as the instructions
Man I'm glad I saw this video I just bought myself the saddle version and was just about to install it and then I saw this video!!
Great thorough video and explanations. What do you suggest to replace a saddle valve that is coming off of my hot water heater to the house humidifier? Maybe you could do a video on it?
I am working on a video for this
@@jeffostroff Awesome. Looking forward to it. Thank you.
Awesome Jeff, thank you for providing the link to this video. I will now hook up my ice-maker the right way.
You bet!
Thank you- I just learned something new. I have been using Saddle valves for over 20 years to ONLY drain pipes that supplies water to outdoor faucets. Am I in violation of the NYS code?
I don't know if the code covers outside or not it's just that when I see it in the code and it says what is not allowed and it's a saddle type fittings that to me since we shouldn't be using them at all
Great video Jeff. Thanks for sharing.
glad to help Vince!
Just what I needed to see! One question tho, if I add the part under my kitchen sink, how do I repair the saddle valve? Will I, should I get a plumber for this job? Saddle valve located in the basement above a cabinet, hard to reach/repair.
I would cut off water to the house, drain that line as much as possible, and cut through that pipe where the saddle valve was and put a copper pipe coupling there, that pin hole needs to be removed.
Thank you!
Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
Agreed!
Thank you! I am a handyman and never liked the idea of a saddle valve whether it's code or not. It just didn't make sense to me to make a permanent hole in a pipe. Using the valve adaptor is a way better solution!
So Jeff, I'm convinced! Now, how do I remove my in-line saddle valve and repair the copper pipe that now has a hole in it?
Great video, Do you have a video showing this in a home?
Awesome video! I don't have a saddle valve coming off my hot water heater, but I need to add a second ice maker line. I currently have a Sharkbite shutoff valve for the ice maker. Do they make a dual valve for 2 icemakers? Thanks.
Excellent informative video
Question.. What to do if there's a need for third connection? I have a filtered water system, ice maker line and a faucet that need to be connected. Would it be feasible to use both the 1st and 2nd options?
Great video, and even better information!! Spend a little more for peace of mind in the long run.
Yes, or get a y-adapter
I'm glad I watched this. I was just about to install one. Seems like an easy fix though.. add another piece of rubber on the underside, plus galvanized or brass screws, no?
Jeff, I just got a new fridge delivered and when they were removing the old one I noticed a copper supply line was connected. I checked under my sink and noticed there was a saddle valve which I am unsure if it works or not. Prior to this, I was already considering installing the valve adapter solution you described. My question to you is, what is the best way for me to proceed? Should I leave the saddle in place, make sure it's fully closed and go the valve adapter route?
I can appreciate a lot about this video and I agree with you entirely Jeff. It would be helpful, however, to have instructions for lay individuals on how to replace these awful existing saddle valves.
The reason(s) that so many of these crappy valves remain in properties is because of the plumbing work which is involved to install a proper valve. Most homeowners are too unsure of themselves (me included) to cut/sweat a 'T' for the installation of a proper valve. Jeff....howsabout a video for that?
I plan to do a video on this pretty soon
Just found a severely corroded saddle valve on my hot water heater pipe. Rubber was compressed and hard and cracked. Had to hacksaw the bolts, never again. Good info, Thanks!
Sorry to hear that
Could you please instruct what to do if a saddle valve has already been installed for an ice maker? I understand there is a hole from the saddle valve in the pipe now,. Please instruct how to remedy the situation & use one of your methods. Thanks!
Yes I can, you have to cut that section of copper pipe out where the hole is, and I would solder in a copper T fitting, and solder in a small 3-4" pipe length, so that you can add the correct 1/4 turn ball compression valve right there where you T'd off of the water pipe.
@@jeffostroff Thanks for your response. That sounds too complicated for us to do ourselves, as we don't solder. Are we stuck with the saddle valve and really low pressure in our fridge water dispenser if we opt not to use a plumber? And if we got a plumber to do it your way, how much would it cost?
So glad your video popped up, the store tried to sale me that. Thanks for this information!
Glad I could help Christopher!
Enjoyed the video just curious what do you do with the saddle valve that's already there. My saddle valve is located under the cold water shut off? will it leak since the pipe has a hole in it. Sorry if the questions seem dumb maybe I missed something
So is a copper saddle valve an acceptable solution if you don't have tools and need to do something about a brass saddle valve, and do you need to get plastic on both sides to prevent all contact in such a case?
No Adam sorry the idea of piercing a pressure pipe like that on from the outside is just not a good idea and in fact that's why it's banned by plumbing code, and if your insurance company ever performs a four point inspection on your house and sees it they will force you to remove it or they will drop you from the policy. The best course of action which is what most professional plumbers do is they will cut that pipe and insert a T fitting in there and then put a little stub of copper pipe on that T fitting and then add a compression fitting water shutoff valve on there. It's a pretty fast and easy job for the guys that do this all the time for you you could just watch a few videos on how to do it and do it yourself it's not that hard.
Jeff, thank you for the video. It may sound like a dumb question, but how do you feel about installing saddle valve to the plastic pipe?
It is never a good idea to pierce a pipe
Great vídeo as usual! The ice maker hook ups are problems. I was using the plastic tubing ten years no problem . New fridge 8 months in got a pinhole behind the wall👎🏼! Stainless steel hose and a brass cutoff for me😃 Greetings from NYC👍🏼🗽
Yes, I only use those stainless hoses now, nothing else will do.
Great but what if your sink is too far away from the fridge? How do you tap into an existing nearby pipe with Somethig other than a saddle valve?
At my friend's house we ran a 20' ice maker line, and had to drill holes on the side of 3 cabinets to feed the ice maker line through.
jeffostroff thanks but that’s not my question. I have the water line for the fridge tapped into a nearby pipe with a saddle valve. Is there a fitting to use at this pipe instead of the saddle valve?
@@tdz69 This video shows you exactly 2 different parts that you can use that are alternatives, watch the video.
jeffostroff I did but both parts you show are connected by the sink faucet. I’m asking what can I use at the existing pipe that has the saddle valve. I’m trying to do that rather than run to the sink which is a distance from the fridge. Thanks.
@@tdz69 Cut out the old saddle valve, and put a copper T-fitting there, and then install a small stub of copper pipe soldered to the tee fitting. Then on the end of that copper pipe stub, compression install the shutoff valve that has the 1/4" output for the ice maker.
Well i bought tge saddle valve kit at menards. Saw some videos with people not likeing but 🤷♂️ eh i wasn't convinced. But after Your actually visual example though.... im out of 10$ i guess. Back to the hardware store, you sold me on the second hook up lol. Thank you for the video
Awesome, glad to help
Great video!
Thanks James, glad you liked it
Jeff
I “ only“ Have pex /shark bite (Blue/red plastic water lines , due to the fact that someone stole all the copper piping just before I moved into my house). How do you connect your refrigerator waterline to pex/ shark bite???
See if pex has a pex valve, or you could get a sharkbite pex to copper coupler, and use our normal methods to install a compression fitting valve onto the copper pipe.
Was about to use one of these today the i thought of how trashy this contraption is and threw it in the trash....im glad i did and thank you for the video
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@@abibodlogistics They have them at Home Depot, that's the link to it I posted above
Thanks for the helpful video! One question, can solution 2 (with the dual shut off valves) work for a inline humidifier that’s connected to the cold water under a sink? I need to be able to get the water down to a low trickle to not flood the humidifier. Thanks!
It will work if the humidifier has a 1/4 connection line.
Got rid of my saddle valve and went with option 2 (dual stop) - easy peasy to install after cutting the copper pipe in the kitchen sink..
That's how you do it
best video on you tube! thank you for the links!
Good video, but I do have one question. What if a home owner finds they have a saddle valve and wants to remove and replace it the correct way? Most homeowners can figure out what to do if they have a nice clean piece of copper to work with. In many cases though they can remove the valve which leaves a hole of course, and it doesn't leave enough room to cut that piece off and start new. So now what? What viable saddle valve repair/replacement options should someone look for?
Would these fittings work for a hookup from refrigerator water line to a washing machine cold water line?
Yes you can do it but it's a bit of work! The washing machine water pipe ends with a threaded hose spigot. so I would cut off the spigot, put a copper T-fitting, then re-solder on a small 1/2" copper pipe stub out and a new hose spigot to one side of the T-fitting. Then solder on a small copper stub out and install a compression shut off valve 1/4" on the other side of the T for the ice maker line, as we showed you in this video. No you'll have independently controlled water shutoff for you washer and icemaker.
I wish you would demonstrate actually switching out a saddle valve that is in the center of one long copper pipe rather than an easy end fitting scenario, I appreciate this video and your efforts very much I just know mine and many others are saddled in a place that requires removing of the saddle and cutting or soldering on tee fittings
I plan on doing a video for this
Thanks for a great videa and advice Jeff. However I have a saddle valve in the basement, and the ice line goes up from there. I am not sure how to connect to the that pipe and have a connection to the ice line. Also, how do you plug a hole in a pipe after removing a saddle valve?
You don't plug a hole in a pipe after removing the saddle valve. You cut away the section of pipe or the saddle valve was and you insert a copper tea fitting and make a little stub out of copper pipe which you can then attach a water shutoff valve too
@@jeffostroff I'm not understanding. Is there soldering involved? I was thinking about using something called a shark-bite, but don't think I should be bending the copper line to insert a SharkBite cuz it could break a connection on it at one of the ends of the copper line.. Can you help a little on this? Thanks. Great video and I subscribed.
How would you go about stopping/plugging the end? I recently got a new fridge and had to move the location bc of size; now my copper line has a constant drip. Trying to think of a good way to plug it. Doesn’t have a valve on it; saddle right at the water heater
Buy a plastic water line cap for the copper tube. Great instructions here: www.hunker.com/12490072/how-to-cap-a-copper-refrigerator-water-line
THANKS!!
I have a stupid saddle valve. My question is do u have a how to video to replace the saddle valve with a different option? I'm guessing to use a compression fitting id have to cut the pipe?
A lot of people ask me that I should work on a video for that some time period really all you have to do is cut on either side of the hole and then slip in the t fitting and then a little stub of copper pipe and then a compression valve on the end of that stub out
I have a humidifier that was hook up with one of these to my water heater pipe and it leaked so I’ve shut it down and not used it for years. Just ran into your video thanks for info.
Very cool!
I didnt want to wait for my plumber very whose busy. I considered doing this. Ill just wait. Thanks !
Nothing wrong with that!
I can’t seem to find the dual stop adapter anywhere online. This looks like a fantastic solution! Do you happen to have a link to the part, or could you possibly tell me how to search for it? Thank you.
I linked to it in the video description.
Imo the haters are mostly plumbers being pissed about regular people being able to watch how to videos like this, lowering their demand for simple jobs. Not just plumbers. At first I also would be annoyed if I were a plumber but instead of wasting time complaining I'd ridirect that time and energy to start thinking of new creative ways to create more demand for my services. Like creative cross marketing. But that's just me and my opinion. Nothing wrong with people having opinions. Great video!
There are still plenty of repairs that plumbers can do which homeowners cannot do they will always have plenty of business believe me and a leak in the middle of the light at the end of the day or on a holiday weekend, and most people are panicked and don't have the time to learn or figure out what tools they need to go by they know it's going to be cheaper to just get the plumber
Jeff, What do you recommend for replacing a saddle valve that has corroded on a whole house bypass humidifier? The 1/4" water line that feeds the solenoid is fed from a saddle valve that is connected to my cold water feed to the water heater. It's work I'm going to have to have a plumber do, unless you think I can just replace the existing saddle valve. But, everything I see from your videos leads me to believe I can't remove the old one and replace with a new saddle value because it probably would leak. Just as @ItzFuazz said, it sounds like I'd have to have a plumber cut in a section of the existing line with a Tee fitting.
I would not recommend replacing it with another saddle valve once you've pierced a hole in that pipe who knows whether the other saddle valve can fill it effectively or not anyway. So much better to just have somebody come in that will cut that bad suction out of the pipe, and saw her on a T fitting, and then a small stub of pipe, and then ask for 1/4 turn ball valve with a quarter inch output to feed your ice maker line
Humidifier should be hooked up to your hot water pipe not cold.
How do you remove a saddle valve? How does one deal with the hole the saddle valve left in the copper pipe? Mine is under my house
Somebody has to crawl under there and get to it. Basically what they do is cut the copper pipe, and then they saw her on AT adapterAnd then they could put their copper stuff out on the tea adapter for which they can put the valve at the end. I am going to do a video on this very soon
@jeffostroff I'd like to see that. I have the saddle valve on a copper pipe myself. I have to get it capped or my fridge install won't be done. Too many other things under the sink to be so simple: RO system, garbage disposal - going to get a handyman.
Excellent information tanks
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching Octavio!
So I'm not getting how the ice line goes all the way from under the kitchen sink over to the fridge. Does that mean running it through the walls? Also, Can I use the dual valve on the copper pipe that sticks out of the wall behind the fridge instead? It's only like an inch off the ground tho. I have to have a cutoff valve within 6 feet of the fridge to have my new fridge/ice maker hooked up. Right now it is just a capped off copper pipe behind the fridge. (this was capped when I had a leak/flood about 15 yrs ago) What would you suggest? thx
Love this video and your wisdom, glad I watched this before setting mine up. I’ll go with the rolls Royce!!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
Glad I kept my comments to myself about the saddle valve
We always want to hear people's comments on saddle valves
I am replacing a refrigerator that has been in use for 14 yrs. The saddle valve is installed to the copper pipe which is located on the lower level, with the ice maker water line fed thru the floor behind the refrigerator. This has not been a problem, but the dealer has told me I need a shut off directly behind the refrigerator. What kind of valve do I need to install to replace the saddle valve?
WOW YOU ARE GOOD-----------THANKS MR. JEFFOSTROFF
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Jeff. I, too, have been trying to find a connector that will allow me to adjust the flow into my icemaker separately from the flow to my sink. My only problem is that I ALSO need a 3/8" connector to my dishwasher hose. Can I modify this valve with some sort of splitter so I can have one valve control the icemaker and another control 2 - 3/8" connectors? Or is there a different valve that you can recommend? Any suggestions? Please help. I really trust your advice.
You need to have these adapter valves on both the cold water side for the ice maker, and on the hot water side for the dishwasher which must be connected to hot water. We did another video that actually shows this install in the kitchen we worked on several months ago take a look at it here ruclips.net/video/_0ziKhjwwe8/видео.html
for the double valve method is that metal also not brass, and would eventually lead to galvanic corrosion as well? if it was such a bad thing for the saddle valve wouldn't the same be true for this as well?
Apparently they are inert enough metals to not interfere with each other
@@jeffostroff which leads to my next question would putting a rubber piece of material on the other side help prevent the galvanic corrosion? don't get me wrong i don't think these saddle taps are a great idea, but there could be things done to them to make them less of an issue at least with how prevalent they are.
What should i do if i don’t have a faucet on the same wall as the frig?
I have a saddle valve connected to a water line in the wall behind the frig. What is the best replacement?
I would cut a hole in the drwyall, tap into that line with the appropriate copper fittings and put an icemaker outlet box in that hole in the wall behind the fridge.
how long have saddle valves been banned. My home was built in 2000 (Colorado) and has one of these for the water line to the fridge. Was this missed by the inspector?
So would putting a thinner rubber piece on the bottom stop the contact corrosion?
that might help, but you still have the pierced pipe to worry about, and what if the screws are cheap metal in contact with the saddles that could also cause corrosion, and if there's ever any humidity in the area, it can cause corrosion, leading to failure.
If I remove my saddle valve and use one of the simple fixes that you've suggested, is there a simple repair for the hole left in the copper pipe from the saddle valve?
Also...what about a SharkBite fitting?
It is a simple repair, if you know how to solder copper pipes which isn't too bad to learn how to do. But essentially they would have to cut out that little section with the whole and solder in a new T fitting, and then you would Sutter in a couple of inches of corporate pipe into the T part of that fitting , and then you could install a compression fitting valve at that point and the good thing about having the compression fitting valve is anybody can do that, and if it ever fails in the future anybody can easily unscrew that compression fitting valve and screw on a new one. Most plumbers agree that SharkBite fittings are not quite as reliable however if it's out in the open somewhere or like in a basement where you would definitely see it if it drips probably OK to do I only use shark bites as a temporary solution until I can go and get a real part
I just recently removed one of these after watching this video. It may have been 30+ years old, but I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to shut it off because it was stuck open. After it was off, I found that the piercing pin did break off so I was glad it’s now gone. I used a 1/2” compression inlet with 1/4” output valve along with a soldered tee fitting.
That's how you do it bro! I think you dodged a future bullet there.
Could you provide a solution for this situation? HVAC installer crimped off copper tubing from saddle valve in cold water supply pipe to water heater and put one on the verticals hot water out pipe from water heater. Old one is corroded and leaked after they left but with several more crimps I got it to stop leaking.
But new saddle valve is even cheaper than old one and is already corroding after a couple years. These valves are connected to a small diameter copper tubing that feeds the whole house humidifier. What could I replace these with? At least the newer one on the hot water pipe. All piping is copper.
Logical explanation! I hope I can find the three way valve.
Easy to find, plus I have links below in video description