I replaced this valve with a sharkbite 1/2 X 1/4 OD bought it at Home Depot. Part# 23337-0000LF Took me 5 minutes to replace this . Good luck. 😀 Thank you for this video, without people comments I will not know ...
As you are tightening the valve to pierce the pex line, I'm screaming at my phone, "No Frank, no! Fortunantly you had the presence of mind to keep tightening once it was pierced. Entertaining video, even if it was not bee related.
We all just don't do honey bees> we do other things too. Like i'am pimping my new riding lawn mower. Lights, horn, center console, hitch, cigarette lighter ect thanks for the video> it should help others too cheers
Nut compression rod and ferrale the nut goes on first then the ferrale is the small ring that you slide over the outside of the tubing the rod is inserted inside the evenly cut tubing you have the nut and ferrale on insert the tiny rod into the tubing and it will prevent smashing of the tubing ...plastic on plastic is best because otherwise the copper is more malleable and can cut into the tubing.
That crazy to pierced a line to get water! Should make a fitting for it > I wouldn't trust it. left one time took a winter VC and the line froze busted to the ice maker> What a mess > So keep that in mind
4dhoneybee saddle valves will start to leak after a couple of years when the rubber starts to dry rot. It’s an insurance claim and bad day waiting to happen.
4dhoneybee cutting out a small half inch section of the copper pipe and putting in a “tee” that connects to the water line to the fridge. They sell kits to do it at most hardware stores.
If anyone is watching this and is a home owner or handy man who doesnt have the pex tool and doesnt want to buy one. if its copper, pex, or cpvc you can buy a sharkbite 1/2" x 1/4" straight or angle stop. That will last much longer than any saddle valve will.
I am not a professional plumber, but use of that self piercing valve is not used by any plumbers because the brackets can become loose and rust out over a period of time and then there would be a leak. Use of that type of valve is violation of code in most states. Hire a professional plumber and have them install proper valve to attach that hose. Don't use that valve that comes with a kit.
You are smashing and cutting the farrel into the plastic and it squeezes as tight as you keep tightening so maybe not today but for certain when it is most inconvenient you will have one he'll of a fountain..
Nobody should be making videos except plumbers about this stuff. Now hundreds of people are probably going to do it just like he did and have big boy problems in a few years with water damage
@ 11:00 to 11:59, you are torquing the pierced connection on the main line. NEVER put a wrench on the compression nut without putting some kind of wrench or pliers on the body of the valve, to keep from twisting the main line connection. You also did a very poor job of cutting the 1/4 inch line off, where it goes to the fridge. That should be a SQUARE cut
And as usual...you need two people to do these 'how-to' videos; one to do the actual work and the other to work the recording device...to avoid videotaping the back of one's head. I'm just sayin'.
That's wrong, on plastic tubing you should use plastic ferrels..in time that brass ferrel will chew through the tubing from the hammering of the water turning off and on
I visited my mother she had a fever I ran to the store to buy some medicine and soup came to her door knocked she started screaming eventually unlocked the door as I attempted to busy it down, there was water from the front door through thee ntryway through the living room the entrance to kitchen through the dining room out the side patio door down the hallway into the front bathroom and through the living room kitchen WALL into the master bedroom and bathroom....the water out of the sliding glass door and under kitchen sink flowed like a river...and I was literally splashing through the ankle deep water to find it it was very loud and yet hidden not under the sink I listened at the walls I couldn't hear it as if it was near so I bent down and caught some light on the surface to see which direction it was flowing from, here behind the built in refrigerator I pulled it away from the wall and it looked like Las Vegas Bellagio Fountains. I shut the water off and opened the doors told my mom to stay in her room my kid brought her medicine to her I rushed home got every BROOM and rags fans and the best squeegee brooms ever..home depot I swept for a good three four hours and ran fans kept back in the bedroom to lay down towels ran home to get shop vac walked through the door and it was flooding again, no one told my older kid about the leak she thought she could just grab some filtered water from the sink nope. Long story longer walls flooring over 15 grand 2 bathrooms living room entire kitchen and countertops all marble and baseboards new tile new carpet new paint new faucets stove refrigerator ..2 months in a extended stay hotel.
Definitely NOT code compliant anywhere in the US or Canada. If you have water damage in your kitchen, and your insurance determines that you have a saddle valve installed, your claim will be DENIED, no questions asked.
these saddle valves are not allowed by virtually all plumbing codes in the United States. If you have a leak that causes a lot of damage, your insurance company will likely not pay because this thing was installed against the plumbing code. Don't do it this way! 👎
The moment I saw that you were actually going to use a saddle valve I gave it thumbs down. Saddle valves are prohibited by plumbing code for a reason. They always wind up leaking eventually, and cause a lot of problems. Throw out that kit amd install a proper Tee and reducer, or pay a plumber to do it right. The extra money you spend will be nothing compared to the thousands of dollars in water damage that your saddle valve will cause.
Terrible job this guy doesn't have any idea to how to connect ice maker line the right way to do is with ice maker box the box already have the valve and you can connect cooper pvc cpvc or pex and the box get flush with the wall like the washer huk up
As soon as I heard him call the wrench’s ‘spanners’ .... I was “ ok this is gonna be a fun video” lol
Hehe
I replaced this valve with a sharkbite 1/2 X 1/4 OD bought it at Home Depot. Part# 23337-0000LF Took me 5 minutes to replace this . Good luck. 😀 Thank you for this video, without people comments I will not know ...
Thanks for sharing
As you are tightening the valve to pierce the pex line, I'm screaming at my phone, "No Frank, no! Fortunantly you had the presence of mind to keep tightening once it was pierced. Entertaining video, even if it was not bee related.
+Bea's Bees RVA thx
Tanks man. Works at first-time
Awesome!
Thanks
Very informative and helpful video
We all just don't do honey bees> we do other things too. Like i'am pimping my new riding lawn mower. Lights, horn, center console, hitch, cigarette lighter ect thanks for the video> it should help others too cheers
He said he is Nervous we all Are..
I can't believe it actually worked ! LOL !
Why not?
I have a humidifier on my furnace and has a saddle valve I’ve been skeptical in using it I’ve heard their prone to leaks.
This will work on copper lines to ?
Nut compression rod and ferrale the nut goes on first then the ferrale is the small ring that you slide over the outside of the tubing the rod is inserted inside the evenly cut tubing you have the nut and ferrale on insert the tiny rod into the tubing and it will prevent smashing of the tubing ...plastic on plastic is best because otherwise the copper is more malleable and can cut into the tubing.
good stuff
Let me be the first to apologize for the negative comments. Thanks for the video!
No reason to thanks!
🤫 keep it??
Sure
It's a Phillips. The water line needs to be disconnected before I can replace the relay inside. Good video overall.
That crazy to pierced a line to get water! Should make a fitting for it > I wouldn't trust it. left one time took a winter VC and the line froze busted to the ice maker> What a mess > So keep that in mind
Yes that’s amazing it has already frozen!
I thought these connects were only made to be used for copper pipes. Have your had any issues or leaks with it?
You thought correctly. Just because it did not leak now does not mean it will not leak in 2 years while they are out of town.
@@jimi.7249 they leak on copper too so I'm thinking to just buy a shark bite valve and cut the pex and install it
Why not just add a valve to that line and then run hose to refrigerator.
That would work
I keep hearing people say don't use saddle valves
Why is that?
4dhoneybee saddle valves will start to leak after a couple of years when the rubber starts to dry rot. It’s an insurance claim and bad day waiting to happen.
Thanks Doug what is the best fix?
4dhoneybee cutting out a small half inch section of the copper pipe and putting in a “tee” that connects to the water line to the fridge. They sell kits to do it at most hardware stores.
Thanks Doug will check it out. This was the kit recommended by kitchen aid but I’m hearing it’s an accident waiting to happen.
These saddle valves are out of code in almost every state now. I am redoing my own at this time.
Awesome video I'm about to do this on pex as well same as you did.. how's everything holding up?
Also.... I don't need a little sleeve to put inside the line for the compression union for the line coming from the fridge?
That bracket is is brass because if not as most are not will carode and huge Plummer leak will come
Great info thanks.
If anyone is watching this and is a home owner or handy man who doesnt have the pex tool and doesnt want to buy one. if its copper, pex, or cpvc you can buy a sharkbite 1/2" x 1/4" straight or angle stop. That will last much longer than any saddle valve will.
Great info.
Hard water plugs up penetration point...and they leak. Not code compliant. Use Sharkbite , or soldered tee/valve instead.
Thanks robert.
You" F" rigth buddy 👍👍 👍
Fyi, these saddle valves can negate your insurance. They are also illegal for plumbers to install. They will also cause a leak, it's a timebomb.
Yes going to o have to revisit
I am not a professional plumber, but use of that self piercing valve is not used by any plumbers because the brackets can become loose and rust out over a period of time and then there would be a leak. Use of that type of valve is violation of code in most states. Hire a professional plumber and have them install proper valve to attach that hose. Don't use that valve that comes with a kit.
Did u use that on pvc? All my water lines are pvc but it says to use ice maker kit on copper
It’s pex. I’m not sure if that’s pvc.
4dhoneybee k thanks
Np
Great
Arrrgh p v c arrrrrgh....nooooooo...ughhhhhhh.
Was it your first time ever using an open end wrench as well?
you mean a spanner?
You really can't check for leaks, without capping the hose off with the water on....
why is that. There would be constant pressure no?
You need to center your 'close-ups' so we can see what's in your hand...I'm just sayin'!
You are smashing and cutting the farrel into the plastic and it squeezes as tight as you keep tightening so maybe not today but for certain when it is most inconvenient you will have one he'll of a fountain..
I see
Nobody should be making videos except plumbers about this stuff. Now hundreds of people are probably going to do it just like he did and have big boy problems in a few years with water damage
Why?
Your head was obstructing my view
I hear that a lot.
those clamps are easy to leak
Don’t anyone take this guy’s advice that saddle valve will leak in a couple years and create major damage
It is what most people say although it is exactly what the manufacturer suggested, 4 years and counting so far.
Next time just reduce your 1/2" pex to 1/4" tubing
Thanks
@ 11:00 to 11:59, you are torquing the pierced connection on the main line. NEVER put a wrench on the compression nut without putting some kind of wrench or pliers on the body of the valve, to keep from twisting the main line connection.
You also did a very poor job of cutting the 1/4 inch line off, where it goes to the fridge. That should be a SQUARE cut
may own thoughts too how many houses i have bought and had torn out all of the plumpings what was wrong and wiring too
The use of a saddle valve is against code pretty much everywhere, this installation is invalid.
And as usual...you need two people to do these 'how-to' videos; one to do the actual work and the other to work the recording device...to avoid videotaping the back of one's head. I'm just sayin'.
That's wrong, on plastic tubing you should use plastic ferrels..in time that brass ferrel will chew through the tubing from the hammering of the water turning off and on
Good stuff
I visited my mother she had a fever I ran to the store to buy some medicine and soup came to her door knocked she started screaming eventually unlocked the door as I attempted to busy it down, there was water from the front door through thee ntryway through the living room the entrance to kitchen through the dining room out the side patio door down the hallway into the front bathroom and through the living room kitchen WALL into the master bedroom and bathroom....the water out of the sliding glass door and under kitchen sink flowed like a river...and I was literally splashing through the ankle deep water to find it it was very loud and yet hidden not under the sink I listened at the walls I couldn't hear it as if it was near so I bent down and caught some light on the surface to see which direction it was flowing from, here behind the built in refrigerator I pulled it away from the wall and it looked like Las Vegas Bellagio Fountains. I shut the water off and opened the doors told my mom to stay in her room my kid brought her medicine to her I rushed home got every BROOM and rags fans and the best squeegee brooms ever..home depot I swept for a good three four hours and ran fans kept back in the bedroom to lay down towels ran home to get shop vac walked through the door and it was flooding again, no one told my older kid about the leak she thought she could just grab some filtered water from the sink nope. Long story longer walls flooring over 15 grand 2 bathrooms living room entire kitchen and countertops all marble and baseboards new tile new carpet new paint new faucets stove refrigerator ..2 months in a extended stay hotel.
Wow
That's it; you done!!!!😃🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is a flood waiting to happen with this kit. SMH
Any suggestions
Definitely NOT code compliant anywhere in the US or Canada. If you have water damage in your kitchen, and your insurance determines that you have a saddle valve installed, your claim will be DENIED, no questions asked.
Ugh, mine leaked and soaked me :(
Not a great idea to use a saddle valve. They are doomed to fail over time. They are actually against code in some municipalities.
Great info thanks
That is correct, expect 5 years before corrosion and leaking. Spend $10 more and use professional kit. See Ask This Old House and see video.
Saddle valves?? Really??
Why not?
@@4dhoneybee107 They leak. Their an accident just waiting to happen.
What product should be used?
Your
Yes?
these saddle valves are not allowed by virtually all plumbing codes in the United States. If you have a leak that causes a lot of damage, your insurance company will likely not pay because this thing was installed against the plumbing code. Don't do it this way! 👎
The moment I saw that you were actually going to use a saddle valve I gave it thumbs down. Saddle valves are prohibited by plumbing code for a reason. They always wind up leaking eventually, and cause a lot of problems. Throw out that kit amd install a proper Tee and reducer, or pay a plumber to do it right. The extra money you spend will be nothing compared to the thousands of dollars in water damage that your saddle valve will cause.
Terrible job this guy doesn't have any idea to how to connect ice maker line the right way to do is with ice maker box the box already have the valve and you can connect cooper pvc cpvc or pex and the box get flush with the wall like the washer huk up
Do not waste you time
But its fun!
@@4dhoneybee107 If you consider wasted time watching the video and setting up a failed repair fun, so be it.
iiyou make it to complicated where do you Learn???🤔🤔👎👎
Too complicated to explain
Thats the worst method you can use, please DO NOT use this type of valve.