One of my favorite things about your channel is the fact that your account feels very relatable. I love this kind of content, please continue to be yourself!
I really hope at some point Hoyo adds a horde/ endless mode. Put us on the Shiyu defense map, have us fight waves of different mobs, elites, and bosses that endlessly increase in quantity and aggression, then see how long you can last. Also, give it a CO-OP option so we can play with friends or random players. Something that sounds fun and replayable, at least to me. Thoughts?
hey that's a great idea, I'd love to have something like that, and it would give a lot of us something to do when we're out of energy after 5 minutes of playing!
They've got the 1.2 live stream coming tomorrow. I assume they'll confirm the next endgame thing as a disrupted node but cycling out (almost) biweekly like what we've already got with Shiyu
@@AverageLuckGamer Yeah. I'm hoping for some kind of survival arena/gauntlet at some point, but I'm not exactly sure how I would execute it in this game
@@KumaOso16 I guess that's better for pacing for some people. If it's the same content either way, I prefer to have everything available at once so I can choose to rush it or leave for later
Id like to offer a counter point if you are running the prime ice team: in this case you should absolutely heavily invest into Soukaku. She is an absolute powerhouse in her own right and her damage output directly makes Ellen stronger.
I think something worth bringing up in this kind of discussion is the ZZZ devs comments when they mentioned that the combat is the main goal of this game and that because of this they really want to ease everyone into the endgame content for the first few patches and then after a little while they’ll start tweaking things.
@@AverageLuckGamer IMO this style is more fitting for stream content as people usually beat around the bush in order to make more time for the same content-information, but for youtube it's always better to pump all the information in the shortest time possible, that's how these platforms works. Not saying that this video was bad or anything. I see this style not that different from what you were posting before, just a little bit more chatty than usual, probably because you have been feeling more comfortable making content than when you started. That's a good think, keep up the work.
@AverageLuckGamer Good for stream but I feel like it takes away from your normal videos which are usually very stylish. Now the videos are just like every other CC video with a dude in a box in the corner. Just a little less interesting, IMO.
Thanks and great vid! Team building in Hoyo games are marathons. You will have a decent team of each type by the end of the year, F2P or not. That is when true endgame starts. Until then; enjoy the story, enjoy the challenge as it is now. I feel by/in V2.0, the difficulty will be much harder than it is now.
I think the full prospects of the endgame variety in Zenless are yet to come. There are so many small things hoyo has teased and put into proof of concept in the content available alone that beyond just Shiyu Defense and the shuffling of Anomaly Weakness/Resistances, other gamemodes like Hollow Zero and Notorious Hunt have room to grow and become something as well. With the Withering Garden Ether activity debuffs, for example, making not just Nineveh harder but making you more carefully consider choices in Hollow Zero (I personally really enjoy it, I know not everyone does). Also the fact that we will at some point expect to see a new Boss Tier Ethereal in the main story, hopefully with the Sons of Calydon/Outer Ring arc coming soon, they may potentially make space for more of the other sites in Hollow Zero for that, which could mean a new exploration dynamic/resonia/white star institute conditions and more. Theyve also planted the seed for Agent-Based ethereal combat via the Shadow Jane fight, which could pave way for other mimic ethereal rotations, or something representing a limited version of the Disputed Node, or a mix. Theres so much to consider that excites me at what's to come. And to top it off, we just have no idea how any specific agent will do with these ideas in mind. Maybe they eventually decide to tinker with more than just the Anomaly Weaknesses and delve more into enemy buffs that counter certain stats or open synergy for supports to better highlight their utility. These are just all ideas, but I'd be glad to see like any of them, instead of just "Make Shiyu Defense harder over time."
So in the long run, we are gonna have to build 1 team of each element. we have to prepare our accounts and resource management for that. I already have 2 fully built elemental teams, and now Im gonna wait for new DPS characters for the elements that im missing.
Not necessarily every element but I can see us needing 3 well invested teams that cover different elements in the long run, honestly, we will probably get away with just having the carry heavily invested and the support characters invested just enough to not be a detriment for a long long while. I highly doubt this game will ever become super hardcore difficulty wise, at least as far as the activities that offer rewards go. Mihoyo makes bank catering to the average mobile gamer, they will never dial relevant activities to 11 because that would make your average casual player feel left out
I think this highlights one of my only issues with the way this game handles endgame, at least in terms of how you get upgrade materials, I finished the whole story with Ellen, Lycaon and Soukaku as my team, they're pretty decently built and I have zero issues clearing content with just them, including some of the stages where enemies are resistant to ice, and I got lucky with my pulls for Jane as I wanted a second team that had an attribute weakness in a different pool of enemies for those fights with enemies resistant to ice (and also for Shiyu) and I had enough materials on hand to get Jane and Seth to level 50, my Lucy was already at 47 and I haven't levelled her at all yet, and I have zero materials left over, given the lack of a proper second team at this moment in time, my daily routine once my energy has been regained is spending literally about 5 minutes on the game to spend that energy on upgrade materials (specifically Dennies, EXP and so on) and then immediately logging off again because it's likely to take me a fair few days of not playing the game at all to get the stuff I need to carry on with endgame content I just find it unfortunate, cause every now and then I go "ooh I'd like to play some Zenless) and then remember I can't actually do anything cause I've finished everything besides Shiyu, and can't do Shiyu since I don't have another team to do it with, add to that the lack of any more missions, so there's no passive gain of polychrome or investigator logs to supplement when you can't get anymore from energy based activities Maybe I should finish out the rest of the hard difficulty missions but the only ones I have left are the ice resistant enemies, which I wanted a better team to do
Thank you for voicing my concerns as well. I don't care if I get 1 exp chip and 100 dennies for rerunning missions or doing hollow zero. It doesn't need to be much, but I need some sorta incentive to play the game that I want to play. I would love logging in once a day every day, if on weekends I could really grind out a drive disc level or something.
Totally agree. With Star Rail this style of gameplay loop somehow never bothered me, maybe because the gameplay was less engaging or because I would just use autoplay for my farming, I don't know, but I really want to actually PLAY Zenless. I'm a big fan of the Monster Hunter games because the combat is good, but also because there's always something to grind for that gives me an excuse to engage with that good combat. I want the same thing for this game. Hell, it wouldn't solve your problem but I'd even be down if they just cut the rewards for Shiyu in half and refreshed it each week instead of every other, so there would at least be consistent and somewhat challenging goals to work on more often. Let us enjoy your game Hoyo!!
@@Darganoth I’m with you on that, one thing I would like is to have the farming of investigator logs and the other upgrade materials of that kind not cost energy and instead be a constant reward for replaying old missions or notorious hunt replays, something like that, where you can go and get those things consistently, I don’t mind being held back by the other upgrade materials cause the 100 energy things mean you get to play three of them with the 300 energy you have, and I’m beating those in either under 30 seconds for the dennies and EXP stuff or just under a minute for the other upgrade materials, and then I’m done for the day I’m a fan of monster hunter as well, so grinding is not an issue for me, I’ve been used to that since I started playing the monster hunter games, but Zenless feels like farming for rare materials on MH if you could only do one hunt a day that yielded rewards, given the amount you need to farm, MH feels better even if the odds of getting what you want is much worse than Zenless because you can keep doing the hunt over and over again, you also get better at fighting whatever monster and it makes it go by faster like that, whereas on Zenless, I’m not struggling at all with combat and given the daily stuff isn’t harder than an elite monster, I’m not getting any better at the combat This isn’t even meant to be a criticism of the combat, the combat feels great in Zenless, it’s just that until you have two teams (and even when you do) you’re limited by how much you can play at endgame, and specifically for making a new team, it feels far worse than if you were just grinding for disc drives As an example with what I said with my Jane, she’s level 52 currently, and that was off of materials I had saved up since they weren’t getting used on my main team, after spending all of my energy I barely had enough to get her to 58 over one day, and I have 2 other characters I need to do this on, and that’s just levels, I still need to fully upgrade the W Engines, and then work on the core skill stuff, and then get disc drives, so I likely won’t even be able to touch the later Shiyu stuff for a week, and in that time I’m not really earning any extra polychrome to save for the next character I pull for nor am I able to passively get upgrade materials like EXP stuff
what im worried about your comment is that at this point of tbe game, in which you clearly almost started on the first weeks since you have ellen, you still dont have a second team build up to start shiyu defense. I mean, at must you should be able to get to floor 15 and call it a day, right? making 2 really good teams is kinda difficult for certain accs. Although i agree with the log in do stuff and then log off, yet i still log in frequently over the day and move stuff while repeating certain shiyu content to learn different rotations, checking the little dmg differences with the little changes i manage to do per day with the limited energy.... sadly...
I have the same problem. I started playing at the end of 1.0 so I couldn't get Ellen or Zhu Yuan. For my standard characters I got only Kholeda and a S rank w-engine. I wanted to use my pulls to get Jane but I lost my 50 50 to Lyacon and now I'm stuck with Anton as my only built attacker. I dont want to build someone like Corrin to discard her when I'll get Bernice so since I started playing I can't clear any content which require 2 squads
Love the content as always! keep it up! I just wanna share, I pull on limited banners mostly for the A ranks hahaha the S ranks are just the bonus, also I finally cleared critical node 7 within 5mins using Billy and Anton XD
As someone who has failed to get a single S rank DPS and who's main DPS is Piper with only Corin or Anton as secondary DPS the time limited nodes are a pain in the ass. Anton just feels bad to use and doesn't produce enough DPS to even clear the electric weak enemies in reasonable amount of time.
I just spam his defensive assists to try to mitigate his energy cumsumption. Hes nigh useless without his special. (I also missed out on his wengine before I knew what they were)
I like this new style with yourself in the vid ;) Should do some release new char livestreams. So when new update comes out. Good for your views and nice for us to check on ya
Overall, I'm new to gatcha games But these videos are really great especially for a f2p I might even continue playing after all the free pulls dry up and go for miyabi thanks to you
Very good points! I think the endgame is really over estimated, sure it can get harder later on but your older characters will be fine, it's okay! For example this current shiyu defense I cleared all S ranks with solo Jane, and Zhu+Nicolle on the other team, this is from someone who never got S ranks on my first month of shiyu defense, but pushing my 2 DPS to 60 and decent skills, now it's not bad even without a full team
I agree quite a bit. I think 3min clears would be too brutal atm unless they reduce mob phases etc to adjust. But yeah, it's obv weaknesses and resistance will rotate with hot new characters. Point is there's not so many attributes, so Ice and Ether will come around sooner rather than later. They cannot keep them crippled that long. People would also get furious if they did. Just wait out the nerfs and have an alternative. That's why I pulled Jane. Don't particularly like her, but it's a 3rd element, and it'd anomaly vs being Dps. I'm sure that gives me a very broad set of options to clear. Elec is covered with Grace in a pinch, so only fire is missing. And they won't be that ruthless as to make content just clearable by a single element.
I simply play who i find fun, right now, my main two support role characters that i have in my builds are ben and qingyi, and my dps characters switch between s11 and anton, because both of them pair with the 2 previous characters, my qingyi and s11 are only 40 rn, while ben and anton are 50, yet they still keep up in strength, and im able to clear alot of stuff, which shows that it doesn’t really matter what you run most times, aslong as the characters you run aren’t extremely underleveled
the economy and the battery system definitely could have a buff , major or minor events that makes the battery usage half or resources needed to upgrade certain type of characters. shit like this makes people wanna play and time their move even more strategically
As a genshin player ....... What is endgame? By the way, going by past trends, they will only ever lock out the last stage of any endgame. Shiyu 17, floor 12 of the abyss....etc. When I mean lockout, I mean they will heavily favour the on-banner units to sell them. I think they might follow the wuwa /PGR approach , but make it more casual friendly kind of like Aether gazer. Rogue like - fun disruspted node / holograms - hard and skill based shiyu /TOA - dps gauntlet
Literally the only element I dont have covered right now is electric in terms of decentish teams so Im happy to sit pretty and wait for banger characters to release to pull for (Burnice looks amazing)
They could also change the shiyu defense, for a critical node like the disputed node, where instead of clearing the stage based on time, clearing with a number of deasth lower as possible. With a node like that, defense characters would make a good difference, especially Caeser.
The biggest problem a person can experience in Shiyu are the weaknessess of enemies. If it so happens that a certain node requires you to use undercooked characters it can get really bad. Altough if you can spare a good DPS that enemy is not resistant to, even without the proper element to take advantage of it's weakness, you should clear the stage. Maybe not an S rank but I found it that you get plenty of polys for clearing the node. Sure S is better but it's not requirement and currently getting an A is really generous. Better to try the node and get something out of it instead of ignoring it and missing out on resources. Resistance is what you should look out for, because those can turn your damage dealer useless. Since I got Jane yesterday, after first getting some discs for her(and Piper at the same time when it comes to anomaly juju) I will only farm/craft only some stuff for Seth and I'm set. When it comes to gacha games I always liked a saying: Gachas aren't a race, they are a marathon. Take your time. Getting a character only to get S clear on Shiyu is countereffective. Get as much as you can/want from the nodes and move on. Remember to have fun first and foremost otherwise instead of gaming you will be freaking working.
With cam is fine. But I can recommend making your cam a bit smaller so you can prevent blocking some details in the future. But still a banger content for us who have some average luck!
I’ve been sick for a couple years (thanks to the you know what shot 😡) unfortunately haven’t been able to work (lost my physical job) I just sell collectibles online and do some online work as well from home and started a separate channel for ZZZ content and the game has been a real treat for me.. i haven’t had this much fun in a long time so I’m grateful for the game
The game already introduced an enemy unit that cannot be stun or get anomaly weakness (for weakness that doesn't align its element). Expect more of that kind of units after Casear come out with the next Shiyu Defence update next month. You need Caesar 1000 attack buff + Lucy att buff (yes both of them) to kill those units faster.
Cycling between Shiyu weaknesses is one way of curbing overt power creep in future content and characters. I just hope said characters do synergize well with the current roster, instead of outright rendering them obsolete.
My endgame experience is very different from yours. I find most Shiyu Defense missions to be incrediby difficult and I rarely manage to get S ranks in them. The first 4-5 are easy enough, anything beyond that is beyond me. That's with a kitted out Ellen, Zhu Yuan, Qingyi, Soukaku, Corin, Seth, Lucy, Lycaon all at Level 50, with a few of them at M3+. You're really underselling yourself when you say you're "not that good" at the game.
Having DPS characters at level 60 is a massive damage increase. I think the simple difference in damage coefficeints between a 60 and a 50 (so ignoring all stat gains) is around 18% damage increase. In future the stun characters probably ned to be leveled too but not there yet
@@CombatPandaZenlessZoneZero Good to know! I only unlocked Level 60 for characters yesterday after I posted that comment. It's gonna take me a while to get them all to that level.
also i wish you talked about how using the a ranks dps characters isnt a death sentence.for example: yeah jane is objectively better than piper but if for some reason someone didnt want jane or didnt get her, piper can still s rank clear with the right investment, and by the time jane is back again there might be a new dps that fits the same niche or a new support that also buffs piper
So true, I should have mentioned it. I did mention that Seth would benefit from a shield buff but I should have made clearer that A ranks will benefit from the buffs too some of them are pretty great (piper). Thanks for the feedback.
I'm excited to see the future on Shiyu Defense in the upcoming patches. They were really quick to release Disputed Node, which makes me hopeful for more fun end-game modes just like it. Maybe a Survival Gauntlet where you face wave after wave? Keep up the great content!
i feel like its no secret its always been a strategy to buff new characters in spiral abyss in genshin and zzz but at certain point like genshin it no longer matter because other old character benfit from it as well , which what i think wlll happen in zzz just need lil time is all . zzz is a game about skill over gacha you can do so will with low end character with the right team set up
I largely look to get characters based on a niche I'm lacking. Zhu Yuan, Ellen: Only DPS of their elements. Qing Yi: Honestly better than Anby IMO. Jane: I have Piper. Seth: Great for anomaly comps. Caesar: I have M6 Ben who I need more for my fire comps. Burnice: Only fire anomaly so far so therefore my polychromes are going to her in 1.2
Honestly expect them to add a 3 team Shinyu def at some point. Roster is only going to increase over time so something to retain use of older characters, encourage different team builds and reward long term players seems reasonable.
The main thing I'm looking for right now is a non-physical DPS unit, cus both my main DPS units are physical (Jane and Billy). Preferably a crit based one since I have an anomaly DPS already, rumors are saying lighter might be a fire DPS and I do love his design so I might pick him up, depends on if I'll have enough polychromes saved up to get both him and Harumasa
@@AverageLuckGamer right? I got that idea cause currently there is not much content aside dailies/events. If there would be such mode i could spend more time in game trying to beat higher stages
all i hope for is more gameplay like withering garden, with selectable modifiers. its by far the most fun and challenging content ive experienced, and the only thing that can really compare is disputed node 7.
I prefer faceless cuz your voice is really nice and i feel like Im watching a documentary video. Plus, i think if youre doing facecam, you gotta be more engaging visually. just my thought
A ranks DPS are good investments for low spender players. Low-cost (compared to S ranks), just with a higher skill floor when playing. I can't tell you how many times I get surprised at how my Billy consistently outperforms my M1 Ellen. It seems that M6 A ranks are balanced to be able to outperform M0-M1 S ranks, given they're built decently enough, which is nice, IMO.
Gentlemen, I know that gatcha games are a marathon and not a sprint, but...I downloaded the game yesterday cus I want Jane. And upon seeing that her banner only has a week left. Boy I'm sprinting. Wish me luck.
Honestly having my Soldier11 fully geared at full Lv60 team, beaten by my rushed butte slapped Rat team at Lv50 on 1:15 I'm more surprised how much better Jane is compared to everything that came prior to her.
I gotta say, I had a tram with Nekomata, Anby and Nicole and I invested quite a bit in Nekomata, couldn't beat Shiyu Defense last node, and the 6th one I couldn't get a grade past B, my other team has Ellen with a very high investment, Koleda and Soukaku M6, I've heard people telling me to pair Nekomata with Piper, It does make sense because that might make Nekomata's damage more consistent, but I just don't have Piper and the question here is that overtime we'll see some characters get powercrept and some others might resist well even if there's potential replacements, pretty much like Genshin, I have both Hu Tao and Arlechinno and while the later proves to be superior in general, but Hu Tao can keep up unless you want the absolute best clear times and all of that, which in general we don't really care about it. If anything that's something new players will have to consider... We might regret getting one specific character, but I don't really think most of us will experience it more than a couple of times unless we're pulling in an impulsive way.
It's the case in all gacha games that if you can pull and build whatever the newest unit is you'll blow through the content. You'll only only struggle on units that you skip - especially if they have new gameplay styles associated with them. Also as someone with only 4stars and Rina (I save for male units) I absolutely need to invest in my supports because they're also my damage dealers for that element (thx game for making 3 of your launch 4star dps physical type)
there is another way to upgrade Shiyu defense difficulty too : just add some news boss with harder mechanics . Proof is thoses 2 recents we got : the Electro Punch guy and this Shadow jane and i'm thinking more in this way as many people say "game is easy" . ok , wait til they will bring the real deal
really wanted ellen and jane, idk if I should keep rolling for jane since my only physical is corin, and I already have a fire team (soldier koleda ben) so maybe I dont need to save for the 1.2 characters... not sure
I will say, I started during Zhu Yuan and decided not to pull her; I really only have physical DPS characters and its been a huge pain because theres at least one physical resist on most nodes.
There will definitely be a dry spell of recycling old exclusive banners, giving players a chance to initially get the character or pull mindscapes or their signature engines, while the devs try to create new areas and endgame content and the new characters that have been leaked. They will not be able to maintain this momentum of every 20 days with something big without going on strike or making the news. It’s just not humanly possible.
At this pointI I have 3 teams with Jane Ellena and Zhu Yuan at the helms. I'm literally only missing a fire DPS and my account is set up for the rest of the game basically. Burnice is an option but I'll probably wait until i do the standard 300 pulls and just get s11. After that it'll just be side grades I would assume with Miyabi being the first to replace something in Ellen.
I don't think the timing of Shiyu will decrease. I think we'll start seeing single weaknesses, double resistances, and mechanics that nullify or reduce role specialty (like the mountain lion's boss being made for anomaly characters), so you're forced to play one type for weakness, one to two types for neutral, and swap character roles to match enemy mechanics.
if an average gamer gets an S on all Shiyu and says they are not good at the game and I get barley a B what does that makes me? A guy that has played games for almost 20 years, and yet still play like the plebiest pleb XD. I'm good at the current end-game.
I do make content about the game so although my supports aren’t too great (need work) my Zhu Yuan and Jane Doe are pretty well built, which definitely helps. You’ll get there bud!
Shiyu Defense is not enough endgame tbh, I'd appreciate an infinite mode with infinite rewards, even if they are not worth it. Feels quite bad to have a new character (in this case Jane) and not being able to do anything with it
That's not a new discovery. Mihoyo like other gacha games wall off f2P players at the endgame to prevent them from EVER getting the maximum amount of rewards. Where you are wrong is that it's not about making the player feel like they need to pull for the new characters. They will absolutely need to pull for those new characters eventually to get the max rewards to pull those characters. However, since the players is F2P, that player is walled off entirely from a section of endgame content, so there are times where the player cannot pull for those characters and are basically SoL.Essentially gacha games actively punish players but make it subtle enough to make it look like you got another chance at the slot machine so it can push you into paying and eventually whaling.
It seriously depends imo relics in any gacha game are the main limiting factor with perfect relics on your main dps and well built stunner you should be even able to comfortably clear end game content with even 4 star / A rank units. So then the issue is a time one where eventually you will get as close to perfect as possible
These node battles can also be so bad feeling to fight because the lock on in this game is absolute garbage. It switches randomly and doesn’t stick to characters after ultimates or certain things happening in the battle and if you don’t lock on the camera just switches randomly to other enemies when you don’t want them to.
I wouldn't worry too much on the character as the A rank dps can still clear contents just fine (yes I mean using Colin, Billy or Anton). you just need to farm those DISKS with decent stats and git gud at the game. We are on only in1.2 patch, that's still far too early for the like of ruan mei of a character to appear. If ya r F2P and has no particular character that u r infatuated with, trust me man just SAVE.
Dont particularly care for cam or no cam, but if you are gonna put the cam in i prefer the green screen. Not a fan of the camera box in a corner for youtube vids personally. I enjoy your content either way though!
I'm struggling because i don't have a second DPS and don't want Jane Doe. It's putting me behind on all hardest content. My Zhu Yuan team is competent, and the other side is.... a complete mess. It didn't helped that out of the standard banner, i walked with 1 Rina and 2 Grace's W-engine (which i don't have anyone that can use it.) Still haven't cleaned the first part of Shinryu defense, so i can't even start the other part yet...
I’m feeling a little sad cuz I’m coming up at the end of things… all nodes are done .. I just need to slap inferno reap and withering core 1-11 but everything else is done 😢 my favorite teams right now are Qinyi Seth and Jane , Koleda Ben and Soldier 11, and Qinyi Nicole Zhu yuan but I’m hoping Caesar will replace Qinyi in terms of potential for my Jane Seth team so I. Can focus Qinyi on my Zhu team (until the fabled day of a godly ether stun agent 😅)
Bro has jane and zhu, idc how bad you are and still beat everything, you got really strong dmg dealers, new players are doomed if you ask to make this game harder
I've got my two main teams, Ellen and Zhu Yuan and I was able to S rank all of Shiyu Defense. Right now I'm focusing on building up my supports for those teams. Getting them to level 60, leveling their core skills, and any high use skills on them. But after that is all done, I will be focusing on gearing up my other two element DPS, Soldier and Jane, so that I'm ready for any endgame content. My question to anyone who is interested is that personally, I'm skipping leveling up/farming any disc drives for my support characters, so that I can use the resources on Soldier and Jane. Do you guys think this is a good idea or should I just be pooling my resources entirely into my main teams' supports? Curious to hear some answers!
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One of my favorite things about your channel is the fact that your account feels very relatable. I love this kind of content, please continue to be yourself!
Thank you so much!
I can’t relate at all since I’m a big spender ;)
I really hope at some point Hoyo adds a horde/ endless mode. Put us on the Shiyu defense map, have us fight waves of different mobs, elites, and bosses that endlessly increase in quantity and aggression, then see how long you can last. Also, give it a CO-OP option so we can play with friends or random players. Something that sounds fun and replayable, at least to me. Thoughts?
Been my sentiment since I started playing too. I'd like a mode where I can just vibe in a flow state of nonstop parry ASMR for 2 hours straight.
hey that's a great idea, I'd love to have something like that, and it would give a lot of us something to do when we're out of energy after 5 minutes of playing!
They've got the 1.2 live stream coming tomorrow. I assume they'll confirm the next endgame thing as a disrupted node but cycling out (almost) biweekly like what we've already got with Shiyu
Yeah I hope so! Always looking forward to new modes!
@@AverageLuckGamer Yeah. I'm hoping for some kind of survival arena/gauntlet at some point, but I'm not exactly sure how I would execute it in this game
What would be really cool is if the node cycles out between the other node's rotations. You'd get a new one every week essentially.
@@KumaOso16 I guess that's better for pacing for some people. If it's the same content either way, I prefer to have everything available at once so I can choose to rush it or leave for later
“My clear times aren’t the best”
*Clears Shiyu 7 with >1 min left*
Id like to offer a counter point if you are running the prime ice team: in this case you should absolutely heavily invest into Soukaku. She is an absolute powerhouse in her own right and her damage output directly makes Ellen stronger.
I think something worth bringing up in this kind of discussion is the ZZZ devs comments when they mentioned that the combat is the main goal of this game and that because of this they really want to ease everyone into the endgame content for the first few patches and then after a little while they’ll start tweaking things.
Is this the first time you do a facecam? Glad to be here. Good luck with your content. 😁
first time on a video, did it on stream before but trying out a less scripted style, let me know what you think!
@@AverageLuckGamerpersonally I’m a fan of the less scripted style- feels natural and almost conversational.
@@AverageLuckGamer IMO this style is more fitting for stream content as people usually beat around the bush in order to make more time for the same content-information, but for youtube it's always better to pump all the information in the shortest time possible, that's how these platforms works. Not saying that this video was bad or anything. I see this style not that different from what you were posting before, just a little bit more chatty than usual, probably because you have been feeling more comfortable making content than when you started. That's a good think, keep up the work.
@AverageLuckGamer Good for stream but I feel like it takes away from your normal videos which are usually very stylish. Now the videos are just like every other CC video with a dude in a box in the corner. Just a little less interesting, IMO.
i'm excited for the COOP mode for ZZZ
Oh yes!
Great video (haven't even watched it yet)
Thanks and great vid!
Team building in Hoyo games are marathons.
You will have a decent team of each type by the end of the year, F2P or not. That is when true endgame starts.
Until then; enjoy the story, enjoy the challenge as it is now. I feel by/in V2.0, the difficulty will be much harder than it is now.
That's the plan!
I think the full prospects of the endgame variety in Zenless are yet to come. There are so many small things hoyo has teased and put into proof of concept in the content available alone that beyond just Shiyu Defense and the shuffling of Anomaly Weakness/Resistances, other gamemodes like Hollow Zero and Notorious Hunt have room to grow and become something as well.
With the Withering Garden Ether activity debuffs, for example, making not just Nineveh harder but making you more carefully consider choices in Hollow Zero (I personally really enjoy it, I know not everyone does). Also the fact that we will at some point expect to see a new Boss Tier Ethereal in the main story, hopefully with the Sons of Calydon/Outer Ring arc coming soon, they may potentially make space for more of the other sites in Hollow Zero for that, which could mean a new exploration dynamic/resonia/white star institute conditions and more.
Theyve also planted the seed for Agent-Based ethereal combat via the Shadow Jane fight, which could pave way for other mimic ethereal rotations, or something representing a limited version of the Disputed Node, or a mix. Theres so much to consider that excites me at what's to come.
And to top it off, we just have no idea how any specific agent will do with these ideas in mind. Maybe they eventually decide to tinker with more than just the Anomaly Weaknesses and delve more into enemy buffs that counter certain stats or open synergy for supports to better highlight their utility. These are just all ideas, but I'd be glad to see like any of them, instead of just "Make Shiyu Defense harder over time."
So in the long run, we are gonna have to build 1 team of each element. we have to prepare our accounts and resource management for that. I already have 2 fully built elemental teams, and now Im gonna wait for new DPS characters for the elements that im missing.
More than two teams yes, but probably not teams of every element. There’s 2 sides to it so you’ll maybe need 3 teams I imagine.
Not necessarily every element but I can see us needing 3 well invested teams that cover different elements in the long run, honestly, we will probably get away with just having the carry heavily invested and the support characters invested just enough to not be a detriment for a long long while. I highly doubt this game will ever become super hardcore difficulty wise, at least as far as the activities that offer rewards go. Mihoyo makes bank catering to the average mobile gamer, they will never dial relevant activities to 11 because that would make your average casual player feel left out
Like the new format were see you, good vid my man, keep up the good work :)
Thanks for the support!
I think this highlights one of my only issues with the way this game handles endgame, at least in terms of how you get upgrade materials, I finished the whole story with Ellen, Lycaon and Soukaku as my team, they're pretty decently built and I have zero issues clearing content with just them, including some of the stages where enemies are resistant to ice, and I got lucky with my pulls for Jane as I wanted a second team that had an attribute weakness in a different pool of enemies for those fights with enemies resistant to ice (and also for Shiyu) and I had enough materials on hand to get Jane and Seth to level 50, my Lucy was already at 47 and I haven't levelled her at all yet, and I have zero materials left over, given the lack of a proper second team at this moment in time, my daily routine once my energy has been regained is spending literally about 5 minutes on the game to spend that energy on upgrade materials (specifically Dennies, EXP and so on) and then immediately logging off again because it's likely to take me a fair few days of not playing the game at all to get the stuff I need to carry on with endgame content
I just find it unfortunate, cause every now and then I go "ooh I'd like to play some Zenless) and then remember I can't actually do anything cause I've finished everything besides Shiyu, and can't do Shiyu since I don't have another team to do it with, add to that the lack of any more missions, so there's no passive gain of polychrome or investigator logs to supplement when you can't get anymore from energy based activities
Maybe I should finish out the rest of the hard difficulty missions but the only ones I have left are the ice resistant enemies, which I wanted a better team to do
Thank you for voicing my concerns as well. I don't care if I get 1 exp chip and 100 dennies for rerunning missions or doing hollow zero. It doesn't need to be much, but I need some sorta incentive to play the game that I want to play. I would love logging in once a day every day, if on weekends I could really grind out a drive disc level or something.
Totally agree. With Star Rail this style of gameplay loop somehow never bothered me, maybe because the gameplay was less engaging or because I would just use autoplay for my farming, I don't know, but I really want to actually PLAY Zenless.
I'm a big fan of the Monster Hunter games because the combat is good, but also because there's always something to grind for that gives me an excuse to engage with that good combat. I want the same thing for this game. Hell, it wouldn't solve your problem but I'd even be down if they just cut the rewards for Shiyu in half and refreshed it each week instead of every other, so there would at least be consistent and somewhat challenging goals to work on more often.
Let us enjoy your game Hoyo!!
@@Darganoth I’m with you on that, one thing I would like is to have the farming of investigator logs and the other upgrade materials of that kind not cost energy and instead be a constant reward for replaying old missions or notorious hunt replays, something like that, where you can go and get those things consistently, I don’t mind being held back by the other upgrade materials cause the 100 energy things mean you get to play three of them with the 300 energy you have, and I’m beating those in either under 30 seconds for the dennies and EXP stuff or just under a minute for the other upgrade materials, and then I’m done for the day
I’m a fan of monster hunter as well, so grinding is not an issue for me, I’ve been used to that since I started playing the monster hunter games, but Zenless feels like farming for rare materials on MH if you could only do one hunt a day that yielded rewards, given the amount you need to farm, MH feels better even if the odds of getting what you want is much worse than Zenless because you can keep doing the hunt over and over again, you also get better at fighting whatever monster and it makes it go by faster like that, whereas on Zenless, I’m not struggling at all with combat and given the daily stuff isn’t harder than an elite monster, I’m not getting any better at the combat
This isn’t even meant to be a criticism of the combat, the combat feels great in Zenless, it’s just that until you have two teams (and even when you do) you’re limited by how much you can play at endgame, and specifically for making a new team, it feels far worse than if you were just grinding for disc drives
As an example with what I said with my Jane, she’s level 52 currently, and that was off of materials I had saved up since they weren’t getting used on my main team, after spending all of my energy I barely had enough to get her to 58 over one day, and I have 2 other characters I need to do this on, and that’s just levels, I still need to fully upgrade the W Engines, and then work on the core skill stuff, and then get disc drives, so I likely won’t even be able to touch the later Shiyu stuff for a week, and in that time I’m not really earning any extra polychrome to save for the next character I pull for nor am I able to passively get upgrade materials like EXP stuff
what im worried about your comment is that at this point of tbe game, in which you clearly almost started on the first weeks since you have ellen, you still dont have a second team build up to start shiyu defense. I mean, at must you should be able to get to floor 15 and call it a day, right? making 2 really good teams is kinda difficult for certain accs. Although i agree with the log in do stuff and then log off, yet i still log in frequently over the day and move stuff while repeating certain shiyu content to learn different rotations, checking the little dmg differences with the little changes i manage to do per day with the limited energy.... sadly...
I have the same problem. I started playing at the end of 1.0 so I couldn't get Ellen or Zhu Yuan. For my standard characters I got only Kholeda and a S rank w-engine.
I wanted to use my pulls to get Jane but I lost my 50 50 to Lyacon and now I'm stuck with Anton as my only built attacker.
I dont want to build someone like Corrin to discard her when I'll get Bernice so since I started playing I can't clear any content which require 2 squads
Love this type of content, ALG!
Thanks! Looking to do a mix as we move forward!
Love the content as always! keep it up! I just wanna share, I pull on limited banners mostly for the A ranks hahaha the S ranks are just the bonus, also I finally cleared critical node 7 within 5mins using Billy and Anton XD
Nice! Congrats!
As someone who has failed to get a single S rank DPS and who's main DPS is Piper with only Corin or Anton as secondary DPS the time limited nodes are a pain in the ass. Anton just feels bad to use and doesn't produce enough DPS to even clear the electric weak enemies in reasonable amount of time.
I just spam his defensive assists to try to mitigate his energy cumsumption. Hes nigh useless without his special. (I also missed out on his wengine before I knew what they were)
Absolutely top tier video! I'll proceed to watch it now :)
thanks for this vid. it reassures me that it was right for me to pull for qing yi cuz i dont have stunners. (i was saving for jane)
I like this new style with yourself in the vid ;) Should do some release new char livestreams. So when new update comes out. Good for your views and nice for us to check on ya
Thanks man… too much real life stuff for me to react to this livestream but maybe on the next one.
pretty calming video ngl, good on ya mate 😊
honestly wanna see your reaction to the 1.2 livestream if possible
You took a long time getting to it but I appreciate the message of don't let the gacha gectcha and detailing how they try to.
Overall, I'm new to gatcha games
But these videos are really great especially for a f2p
I might even continue playing after all the free pulls dry up and go for miyabi thanks to you
Glad to hear I helped!
Very good points!
I think the endgame is really over estimated, sure it can get harder later on but your older characters will be fine, it's okay!
For example this current shiyu defense I cleared all S ranks with solo Jane, and Zhu+Nicolle on the other team, this is from someone who never got S ranks on my first month of shiyu defense, but pushing my 2 DPS to 60 and decent skills, now it's not bad even without a full team
YAYAYA NEW VIDEO 🎥🎥
I agree quite a bit. I think 3min clears would be too brutal atm unless they reduce mob phases etc to adjust.
But yeah, it's obv weaknesses and resistance will rotate with hot new characters. Point is there's not so many attributes, so Ice and Ether will come around sooner rather than later. They cannot keep them crippled that long. People would also get furious if they did.
Just wait out the nerfs and have an alternative.
That's why I pulled Jane. Don't particularly like her, but it's a 3rd element, and it'd anomaly vs being Dps. I'm sure that gives me a very broad set of options to clear. Elec is covered with Grace in a pinch, so only fire is missing. And they won't be that ruthless as to make content just clearable by a single element.
Great points!
I simply play who i find fun, right now, my main two support role characters that i have in my builds are ben and qingyi, and my dps characters switch between s11 and anton, because both of them pair with the 2 previous characters, my qingyi and s11 are only 40 rn, while ben and anton are 50, yet they still keep up in strength, and im able to clear alot of stuff, which shows that it doesn’t really matter what you run most times, aslong as the characters you run aren’t extremely underleveled
the economy and the battery system definitely could have a buff , major or minor events that makes the battery usage half or resources needed to upgrade certain type of characters. shit like this makes people wanna play and time their move even more strategically
Withering Garden 11/11 is It's haunting all my teams btw
My king back at it again
As a genshin player .......
What is endgame?
By the way, going by past trends, they will only ever lock out the last stage of any endgame. Shiyu 17, floor 12 of the abyss....etc.
When I mean lockout, I mean they will heavily favour the on-banner units to sell them.
I think they might follow the wuwa /PGR approach , but make it more casual friendly kind of like Aether gazer.
Rogue like - fun
disruspted node / holograms - hard and skill based
shiyu /TOA - dps gauntlet
Literally the only element I dont have covered right now is electric in terms of decentish teams so Im happy to sit pretty and wait for banger characters to release to pull for (Burnice looks amazing)
They could also change the shiyu defense, for a critical node like the disputed node, where instead of clearing the stage based on time, clearing with a number of deasth lower as possible. With a node like that, defense characters would make a good difference, especially Caeser.
Great video man. I love your messages. A quick note that aside from Ellen the banners have been 21 not 20 days, makes it nice and neat 3 weeks.
The biggest problem a person can experience in Shiyu are the weaknessess of enemies. If it so happens that a certain node requires you to use undercooked characters it can get really bad. Altough if you can spare a good DPS that enemy is not resistant to, even without the proper element to take advantage of it's weakness, you should clear the stage. Maybe not an S rank but I found it that you get plenty of polys for clearing the node. Sure S is better but it's not requirement and currently getting an A is really generous. Better to try the node and get something out of it instead of ignoring it and missing out on resources. Resistance is what you should look out for, because those can turn your damage dealer useless. Since I got Jane yesterday, after first getting some discs for her(and Piper at the same time when it comes to anomaly juju) I will only farm/craft only some stuff for Seth and I'm set.
When it comes to gacha games I always liked a saying: Gachas aren't a race, they are a marathon. Take your time. Getting a character only to get S clear on Shiyu is countereffective. Get as much as you can/want from the nodes and move on. Remember to have fun first and foremost otherwise instead of gaming you will be freaking working.
With cam is fine. But I can recommend making your cam a bit smaller so you can prevent blocking some details in the future. But still a banger content for us who have some average luck!
My endgame : trying to win 3 extra seconds for Shiyu Defense 7, and tryhard snake. I hope it won't get too boring in the long run :(
I’ve been sick for a couple years (thanks to the you know what shot 😡) unfortunately haven’t been able to work (lost my physical job) I just sell collectibles online and do some online work as well from home and started a separate channel for ZZZ content and the game has been a real treat for me.. i haven’t had this much fun in a long time so I’m grateful for the game
Just missed my S pull on the Jane banner and everything feels horrible. But your channel helps.
The game already introduced an enemy unit that cannot be stun or get anomaly weakness (for weakness that doesn't align its element). Expect more of that kind of units after Casear come out with the next Shiyu Defence update next month. You need Caesar 1000 attack buff + Lucy att buff (yes both of them) to kill those units faster.
Cycling between Shiyu weaknesses is one way of curbing overt power creep in future content and characters.
I just hope said characters do synergize well with the current roster, instead of outright rendering them obsolete.
My endgame experience is very different from yours. I find most Shiyu Defense missions to be incrediby difficult and I rarely manage to get S ranks in them. The first 4-5 are easy enough, anything beyond that is beyond me. That's with a kitted out Ellen, Zhu Yuan, Qingyi, Soukaku, Corin, Seth, Lucy, Lycaon all at Level 50, with a few of them at M3+. You're really underselling yourself when you say you're "not that good" at the game.
Having DPS characters at level 60 is a massive damage increase. I think the simple difference in damage coefficeints between a 60 and a 50 (so ignoring all stat gains) is around 18% damage increase. In future the stun characters probably ned to be leveled too but not there yet
@@CombatPandaZenlessZoneZero Good to know! I only unlocked Level 60 for characters yesterday after I posted that comment. It's gonna take me a while to get them all to that level.
also i wish you talked about how using the a ranks dps characters isnt a death sentence.for example: yeah jane is objectively better than piper but if for some reason someone didnt want jane or didnt get her, piper can still s rank clear with the right investment, and by the time jane is back again there might be a new dps that fits the same niche or a new support that also buffs piper
So true, I should have mentioned it. I did mention that Seth would benefit from a shield buff but I should have made clearer that A ranks will benefit from the buffs too some of them are pretty great (piper). Thanks for the feedback.
I believe the next step for shiyu defense it’s going to make us go from having 2 teams to 3 teams 😅 that’s another way to push us get more characters
I'm excited to see the future on Shiyu Defense in the upcoming patches.
They were really quick to release Disputed Node, which makes me hopeful for more fun end-game modes just like it.
Maybe a Survival Gauntlet where you face wave after wave? Keep up the great content!
I liked this style. Obviously keep doing the other style as well if you like, but this is great as well.
got jumpscared by the cam
Sorry, I just wanted to try something different.
i feel like its no secret its always been a strategy to buff new characters in spiral abyss in genshin and zzz but at certain point like genshin it no longer matter because other old character benfit from it as well , which what i think wlll happen in zzz just need lil time is all . zzz is a game about skill over gacha you can do so will with low end character with the right team set up
The intro with a face *chefs kiss*
Thanks!
I largely look to get characters based on a niche I'm lacking.
Zhu Yuan, Ellen: Only DPS of their elements.
Qing Yi: Honestly better than Anby IMO.
Jane: I have Piper.
Seth: Great for anomaly comps.
Caesar: I have M6 Ben who I need more for my fire comps.
Burnice: Only fire anomaly so far so therefore my polychromes are going to her in 1.2
Honestly expect them to add a 3 team Shinyu def at some point. Roster is only going to increase over time so something to retain use of older characters, encourage different team builds and reward long term players seems reasonable.
Oh my god isn't it a handsome face reveal ?
Stop it lol (but also keep going)
The main thing I'm looking for right now is a non-physical DPS unit, cus both my main DPS units are physical (Jane and Billy). Preferably a crit based one since I have an anomaly DPS already, rumors are saying lighter might be a fire DPS and I do love his design so I might pick him up, depends on if I'll have enough polychromes saved up to get both him and Harumasa
I wish there was something like infinite shiyu. It would have a lot of stages and the difficulty on top stages would be like close to impossible
Would love that. Could actually be goated.
@@AverageLuckGamer right? I got that idea cause currently there is not much content aside dailies/events. If there would be such mode i could spend more time in game trying to beat higher stages
DEAR GOD !!!! That poor nicole is SCRAPING the bottom of the barrel at the dollar store for any gear at least get her a 2 and 4 peice
I didn’t check before the video and I was genuinely shocked too lol.
all i hope for is more gameplay like withering garden, with selectable modifiers.
its by far the most fun and challenging content ive experienced, and the only thing that can really compare is disputed node 7.
I prefer faceless cuz your voice is really nice and i feel like Im watching a documentary video.
Plus, i think if youre doing facecam, you gotta be more engaging visually. just my thought
Thanks for the feedback.
A ranks DPS are good investments for low spender players. Low-cost (compared to S ranks), just with a higher skill floor when playing. I can't tell you how many times I get surprised at how my Billy consistently outperforms my M1 Ellen. It seems that M6 A ranks are balanced to be able to outperform M0-M1 S ranks, given they're built decently enough, which is nice, IMO.
Gentlemen, I know that gatcha games are a marathon and not a sprint, but...I downloaded the game yesterday cus I want Jane. And upon seeing that her banner only has a week left. Boy I'm sprinting. Wish me luck.
Honestly having my Soldier11 fully geared at full Lv60 team, beaten by my rushed butte slapped Rat team at Lv50 on 1:15 I'm more surprised how much better Jane is compared to everything that came prior to her.
damn i dont have enough poly to pull for AVG's secret banner *sad pepe noise*
I gotta say, I had a tram with Nekomata, Anby and Nicole and I invested quite a bit in Nekomata, couldn't beat Shiyu Defense last node, and the 6th one I couldn't get a grade past B, my other team has Ellen with a very high investment, Koleda and Soukaku M6, I've heard people telling me to pair Nekomata with Piper, It does make sense because that might make Nekomata's damage more consistent, but I just don't have Piper and the question here is that overtime we'll see some characters get powercrept and some others might resist well even if there's potential replacements, pretty much like Genshin, I have both Hu Tao and Arlechinno and while the later proves to be superior in general, but Hu Tao can keep up unless you want the absolute best clear times and all of that, which in general we don't really care about it. If anything that's something new players will have to consider... We might regret getting one specific character, but I don't really think most of us will experience it more than a couple of times unless we're pulling in an impulsive way.
Average luck cam lets go
Let’s go!
WOOOOOW, we are entering new era
Nah, just mixing it up a bit.
TL;DR - Shiyu Defense is code for Limited Banner FOMO.
It's the case in all gacha games that if you can pull and build whatever the newest unit is you'll blow through the content. You'll only only struggle on units that you skip - especially if they have new gameplay styles associated with them.
Also as someone with only 4stars and Rina (I save for male units) I absolutely need to invest in my supports because they're also my damage dealers for that element (thx game for making 3 of your launch 4star dps physical type)
well as long as you don't have skill/build issues you're safe. i'm building soukaku as dps for CN and it works💀
there is another way to upgrade Shiyu defense difficulty too : just add some news boss with harder mechanics . Proof is thoses 2 recents we got : the Electro Punch guy and this Shadow jane and i'm thinking more in this way as many people say "game is easy" . ok , wait til they will bring the real deal
I can't wait!
really wanted ellen and jane, idk if I should keep rolling for jane since my only physical is corin, and I already have a fire team (soldier koleda ben) so maybe I dont need to save for the 1.2 characters... not sure
Cutie patutie out here sharing good things about ZZZ
The return of the king
I will say, I started during Zhu Yuan and decided not to pull her; I really only have physical DPS characters and its been a huge pain because theres at least one physical resist on most nodes.
There will definitely be a dry spell of recycling old exclusive banners, giving players a chance to initially get the character or pull mindscapes or their signature engines, while the devs try to create new areas and endgame content and the new characters that have been leaked. They will not be able to maintain this momentum of every 20 days with something big without going on strike or making the news. It’s just not humanly possible.
You’re right, I should have mentioned that they will need to start peppering in reruns soon too.
Only thing you need to be good at, other than looking handsome af, is saying what we want to hear. Love the vids
Thanks for the support!
I really hope we get more hollow zero content
Why do you call Zhu Yuan 'Kay Quan' I'm so confused 😂
Great video my man, I like the insights. I like the facecam too! Makes it feel more personal.
Gamer jumpscare
I beg of you, take care of Nicole she deserves better
I know… I’m sorry!
At this pointI I have 3 teams with Jane Ellena and Zhu Yuan at the helms. I'm literally only missing a fire DPS and my account is set up for the rest of the game basically. Burnice is an option but I'll probably wait until i do the standard 300 pulls and just get s11. After that it'll just be side grades I would assume with Miyabi being the first to replace something in Ellen.
S11 is pretty good, i have her at only c0, and they still feel great
Guessing that lvl 1 nekomata came from losing a 50/50 , i got stuck with her while pulling for Jane😅
I spent too many resources trying to build 4 teams (to try and take advantage of element weakness) and now I’m broke on every resource
Super horizontal lol
I don't think the timing of Shiyu will decrease. I think we'll start seeing single weaknesses, double resistances, and mechanics that nullify or reduce role specialty (like the mountain lion's boss being made for anomaly characters), so you're forced to play one type for weakness, one to two types for neutral, and swap character roles to match enemy mechanics.
if an average gamer gets an S on all Shiyu and says they are not good at the game and I get barley a B what does that makes me? A guy that has played games for almost 20 years, and yet still play like the plebiest pleb XD. I'm good at the current end-game.
I do make content about the game so although my supports aren’t too great (need work) my Zhu Yuan and Jane Doe are pretty well built, which definitely helps. You’ll get there bud!
Yeah in time. I see why people talking about the end game getting pretty slow. But hey almost at 50 yay!
spoiling us with content
Able to get out today due to trying out a new style!
Shiyu Defense is not enough endgame tbh, I'd appreciate an infinite mode with infinite rewards, even if they are not worth it. Feels quite bad to have a new character (in this case Jane) and not being able to do anything with it
That's not a new discovery. Mihoyo like other gacha games wall off f2P players at the endgame to prevent them from EVER getting the maximum amount of rewards. Where you are wrong is that it's not about making the player feel like they need to pull for the new characters.
They will absolutely need to pull for those new characters eventually to get the max rewards to pull those characters. However, since the players is F2P, that player is walled off entirely from a section of endgame content, so there are times where the player cannot pull for those characters and are basically SoL.Essentially gacha games actively punish players but make it subtle enough to make it look like you got another chance at the slot machine so it can push you into paying and eventually whaling.
It seriously depends imo relics in any gacha game are the main limiting factor with perfect relics on your main dps and well built stunner you should be even able to comfortably clear end game content with even 4 star / A rank units.
So then the issue is a time one where eventually you will get as close to perfect as possible
These node battles can also be so bad feeling to fight because the lock on in this game is absolute garbage. It switches randomly and doesn’t stick to characters after ultimates or certain things happening in the battle and if you don’t lock on the camera just switches randomly to other enemies when you don’t want them to.
Maybe another kind of end content will be added like hsr
meh I might be a little better at the game but those 70 nodes are kicking my ass. no amount of skill can save an average build.
The disputed node?
@@AverageLuckGamer the lvl 70 node from the limited time nodes you showed at the start
ok unrelated question, do you plan on using any other background music for your videos i’m getting kinda tired of this song but its not too bad
I wouldn't worry too much on the character as the A rank dps can still clear contents just fine (yes I mean using Colin, Billy or Anton). you just need to farm those DISKS with decent stats and git gud at the game. We are on only in1.2 patch, that's still far too early for the like of ruan mei of a character to appear. If ya r F2P and has no particular character that u r infatuated with, trust me man just SAVE.
👍 great video
Why are you handsome too😭😭😭
Haha. Thanks!
Dont particularly care for cam or no cam, but if you are gonna put the cam in i prefer the green screen. Not a fan of the camera box in a corner for youtube vids personally. I enjoy your content either way though!
Thanks for the feedback
I'm struggling because i don't have a second DPS and don't want Jane Doe. It's putting me behind on all hardest content. My Zhu Yuan team is competent, and the other side is.... a complete mess. It didn't helped that out of the standard banner, i walked with 1 Rina and 2 Grace's W-engine (which i don't have anyone that can use it.) Still haven't cleaned the first part of Shinryu defense, so i can't even start the other part yet...
I’m feeling a little sad cuz I’m coming up at the end of things… all nodes are done .. I just need to slap inferno reap and withering core 1-11 but everything else is done 😢 my favorite teams right now are Qinyi Seth and Jane , Koleda Ben and Soldier 11, and Qinyi Nicole Zhu yuan but I’m hoping Caesar will replace Qinyi in terms of potential for my Jane Seth team so I. Can focus Qinyi on my Zhu team (until the fabled day of a godly ether stun agent 😅)
I can’t wait for those pastel looking agents.. definitely gonna be an ether anomoly defense or stun in there
Wow,Face reveal,surprised as a
Shit maan 😂😂😂
Bro has jane and zhu, idc how bad you are and still beat everything, you got really strong dmg dealers, new players are doomed if you ask to make this game harder
I've got my two main teams, Ellen and Zhu Yuan and I was able to S rank all of Shiyu Defense. Right now I'm focusing on building up my supports for those teams. Getting them to level 60, leveling their core skills, and any high use skills on them.
But after that is all done, I will be focusing on gearing up my other two element DPS, Soldier and Jane, so that I'm ready for any endgame content.
My question to anyone who is interested is that personally, I'm skipping leveling up/farming any disc drives for my support characters, so that I can use the resources on Soldier and Jane. Do you guys think this is a good idea or should I just be pooling my resources entirely into my main teams' supports? Curious to hear some answers!