Cavalry Cutlass? A Rare Type of Royal Navy Sword
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- Опубликовано: 9 авг 2019
- I've looked at antique cutlasses lots on my channel, but this is a sword with a difference.
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A cavalry cutlass? Clearly for fighting on sea horses.
Groan... but a thumbs up.
Underrated comment.
Particularly on USS Constellation, "Yankee Racehorse"
Naval Dragoons
"They are also fighting on-board land" - matt, 2019
Yarr! I'm commandeering this here land!
(Translation for native English speakers: "on board land" = ashore. Matt's new here.)
@@planescaped : For making sure you "Get off my Land".
A relatively short video... great. I've got nothing to do for the next 20 mins anyway
He is in the UK...lol.
Shawn Allen does the uk have slower time lol
@@exiletsj2570 No, but given that we have Greenwich (which sets the standard known as Greenwich Mean Time, GMT) and every Time-Lord (especially The Doctor, The Master and Rasalan) all have British accents it can be inferred that we Brits have an innate ability to bend time to our desire!
@@exiletsj2570 Well, sadly, since 2016 we in the UK have been going backwards in time :(
this channel make me want to buy swords
Love when I'm onboard the land Matt!
Earth - The greatest ship...on earth :)
Us sailors call it Ashore .
From now on i'll ask permission to come aboard every time i get to a new landmass.
Another great Easton quote: "That's 6 inches, honest."
"... they also fought on board land." Love it, keep up the great videos.
The Royal Navy Cutlass, the best sword ever, no matter what the context!!!
The Cutlass would be my sword of choice for a hypothetical zombie apocalypse.
Mine also. For general purpose destruction sidearm, I can't think of a better all-round weapon than the cutlass.
@@scholagladiatoria Id prefer a modified one so it can be sheathed and worn on side.
Same. That's why I'm making myself one!
Thus spoke Easton
Worst sword evarr: Spadroon
Best sword evarr: Cutlass.
New studio is looking good! Needs more swords though.
A suit of armor in background too would be nice.
could be tough in front of a working door but i agree i miss the large weapon display he used to have behind him
Are you experiencing flex in your foible? Loss of energy? Less penetration...
Hi folks! Matt Easton here, Vagina Penetratoria. I'd like to talk about the Italian method...
You can get tablets for that! 😅
There are also traditional oils you can use, that you rub along the length from the base to tip.
I love this community.
I bought one of those around 15 years ago, & still have it in good condition.
I had identifeid it years ago, however it is really nice to see it featured here.
I always thought it was a very well put together beast...
Sean Bean:...."still sharp"...;)
Man, you just destroyed my brain!
Seen Bawn
Apparently he's been shortened by 6 inches!
I'd prefer the shorter cutlass in very tight quarters, but for overall use, the longer, heavier blade is preferable.
guess a pimp gotto police his hoes somehow
Makes sense. The terrain determines weapons usable.
it really isnt all that shorter though
"they didn't just fight onboard ship, they also fought onboard land."
Lol funny slip up
A Royal Navy Cavalry cutlass?
*"Sail me closer so that I can ride my horse onto their ship and hit them with my sword!!!"*
Royal navy cavalery used seahorses :) it would totaly suprice the french.
Now for someone to come out with a good replica, much like with medieval and renaissance swords.
Yea no kidding. Why doesn't anyone make one??
"That's six inches. Really."
I imagine the conversion was mostly for convenience. If you're are fighting less than 1% of the time, having something handier is nice, even if the other is technically better.
Don't forget all that rigging topside too. A lot of it will be hanging loose by the time it comes to boarding.
That little rant at the beginning has utterly convinced me to become a cutlass weeb. The perfect weapon for any situation, *and* indestructible! Matt Easton approved!
Reminds me about sword finnish light cavalry used when serving Gustavus Adolphus.
The straight cutlass makes me think of WWI era swords for some reason.
The British empire and Russains had cavalry divisions in ww1 and ww2.
Both cutlasses and 1908 Pattern do have that industrially mass producd aesthetic.
U.S. pattern 1917 Cutlass.
I love the 85 cutlass... With the V-8
1796 heavy cav blade. I love it when i guess right. Thank you Matt for sharing this awesome sword with us! Cheers
New wall looks good!
Captain , the flagship has just sent a message by signal flags , it reads " Sharpen Cutlasses " .
I love my Cold Steel US Navy M1917 Cutlass in the 26 inch blade configuration.
As soon as you said "relatively short video" I knew it had to 15+ minutes
Maybe a stopgap measure because nobody least of all governments replace anything until there is no other way around it.
"Military grade" means "this will break X number of times per year." Nobody kmows what X is.
@@DragonTigerBoss actually the clothing made for the military is generally pretty good
Excellent video Matt. Could you please do a video on the naval cutlass-bayonet? I have seen illustrations of these in use with the naval brigade in the 1879 Anglo-Zulu War.
Kind of makes me think of all the variants the cutlasses of the 1660s would have had.
Thank you for your work.
Royal Marines officer's/NCO kit?
Indeed a nice handweapon.
Oh boy, a cursory search shows Swords for Sea Service is indeed expensive
I'm a pretty big fan of cutlasses, they are probably my favorite 19th century swords.....also I love the Sharpe's rifles reference (read all the books and watched most of the show), I was already thinking it was likely a heavy cavalry blade, but when you brought up Sean Bean there was no doubt in my mind haha
I like how you say cutlasses are good in any time in any period in any context against any weapons and are good at everything. To me, that's what makes a sword "best" or "better," whereas only having advantages in niches is an Achilles heel waiting to happen. I prefer weapons a bit beefier, less likely to break etc. "It is heavy... as it needs to be."-Arya's "Dancing" Instructor
"That's six inches, honest!"
Aboard land?
I’m confused, should we now refer to countries like we do ships? HMS United Kingdom, for example
Liking the new background
Just curious, did the navy train sailors to use a cutlass? I understand there was gunnery practice and I assume they had some firearms training. I don't think I have ever read of cutlass training.
I don't know about the Royal Navy , but as a veteran of the USN I've seen old photos of US sailors training with cutlasses. The USN still has a rating called Master At Arms , responsible for law enforcement and training other ratings in armed combat .
@@victorwaddell6530 I thought the USN gave on board training but I don't think I have heard of it much from other countries. I assume some of it depended on the officers. For all we like to talk about American's familiarity with fire arms, it is and was only half true. Many were either city people who never hunted or new immigrants that were the same. Then they were to stingy to give them full training or keep them trained. If I go out to target practice, I probably use more in an afternoon than they were allotted for a year.
@@57WillysCJ I was in the USN for ten years 1985-1995. Four years on a DDG , two as an MP in Japan , four more on a CG . My rating was Operations Specialist , which is radar / comms / navigation / etc. . I was on the Ship's Self Defense Force , Boarding Party , Landing Force , and Prize Crew on both ships . We had .45 cal M1911a1 pistols , M870 12 ga Shotguns , and M14 Rifles on both ships and in our MP armory . We didn't fire them as often as the Marines did , but there was an allotment of small arms ammunition slotted for training the crew . The cost of small arms ammo was a drop in the bucket compared to the expenditure of 5in naval gun shells we often fired , wich is figured into the ship's budget , along with the occasional missile and torpedo shot . I grew up in rural South Carolina and North Carolina , guns are commonplace here , and I learned to shoot before enlisting . But I did learn more while in the military . Ive had instruction from US Navy Master at Arms , USMC instructors , and USAF Air Police . To become a US Navy MP I had to attend the USAF Military Police Academy at Lackland AFB in San Antonio Texas . It's there I gained the NEC (Naval Education Code ) of Security Guard . While a crewman on my second ship I was not on the Master at Arms Force due to my rating of OS , as my duties didn't allow for it . And Yes , the attitude of the Commanding Officer have some effect of the training of his crew , but every CO has standards imposed upon him by his superiors . Fortunately most of my Captains were pro-gun , or at least cognizant of having crewmen trained and qualified in small arms . Having experience in shooting before military service is a bonus , but lacking that , the military can train a person not before experienced in shooting into a servicable gunman . Cheers !
Yes, there was a standard cutlass drill developed for the Royal Navy by Henry Angelo. The admiralty adopted it between 1813 and 1820. I don’t know about prior to that. Likely it was up to individual captains to conduct cutlass drills as they saw fit. However, I suspect no one expected ordinary sailors to be expert fencers, even with a standardized drill.
Source: www.fioredeiliberi.org/topics/sources/1845-infantry-sword-exercise.pdf
@@57WillysCJ BTW , What do you shoot ? I'm currently handloading 7mm Remington Magnum , 416 Rigby , 308 Winchester , and 12ga . I have a Kahr 9mm on the way and am building my first AR . I'm buying my AR components from PSA , there is a PSA near my home .
Another Book: "British Naval Swords" by John McGrath & Mark Barton, 2013 pub. by SeaforthPublishing.
Always when Matt says 'short video' I check the time, and it's always around 20 minutes :P
Not a short vid. Who cares when it's this interesting? I just wish there was the odd one or two that go into the real nitty gritty type detail. I'm no sword expert but I'd still watch.
"I'm primarily right handed but I write with my left hand so I'm a bit ambidextrous."
I hate to be the bear of bad news, but you're left handed... Now I'm gonna go eat a salmon and sleep in the woods.
Great 'short'😊 video... I love cutlasses. What would you say is your favourite cutlass out there? Also what is the sword to the right of the greatsword behind you?
maybe they had too many short arses in the navy so they shortened them to make them easier to draw from the scabbard? (arm length)
Naval cutlasses werent usually kept in scabbards , they were stored in racks for the sailors to grab when needed . Ill give your comment a like because you are using your head though .
@@victorwaddell6530 i didn't know that about naval and no scabbards, thanks for the info
any way that the sword was converted to fit pre existing equipment already in use (scabard or racks) armies sometimes make wierd choices in the name of saving money
I like the Australian Cavalry sword, pattern 1912.
Yay, I got it right! Honestly, I just guessed the only straight cavalry blade I knew.
so a cutlass is a jack of all trades master at none sword
Well, it's probably a master of the context of confined spaces, like a ship deck...
@@benjaminodonnell258 Especially below-decks.
I've got a cavalry cutlass. I bought it about 5 years ago.
ALWAYS A NICE VIDEO BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT CUTLASS WAS USED IN THE TIGHT SPACES OF A SHIP. IF YOU FIGHT ON LAND YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM OF RANGE SO YOU CAN HAVE A LONGER WEAPON BUT IN A TIGHT MELEE LIKE A WWI TRENCH ........... THE SHORTER CUTLASS WAS NEEDED.
I once saw a photo of a US Marine on a beach in the Pacific in WW2. . Stapped to his pack was a U.S. Pattern 1917 Cutlass . He probably nicked it from the armory of the ship that put him ashore . I reckon he felt that his KaBar knife was a poor weapon compared to a Katana and a cutlass whould better his odds .
@@victorwaddell6530 perhaps it was used as a machete?
Well, now I want to buy a replica 1796 HCS and an angle grinder.
I would guess that it was made for economic reasons. The reason I think that is that if the owner was willing to pay well for a modified sabre blade, it would have been shortened on the tang end, which is superior but more work.
Matt says: This is going to be relatively short video - me, checking the length of video: 'short' as always ;)
scholagladiatoria I'd like to see a video on the US Model 1913 Calvary Saber. Any chance you could do one on Patton's sword?
Britain got rid of many ships after Waterloo. Needed more for the Crimean War. Quick way to get cutlasses for them.
Extra reach is a nice thing!
Do you think the cutlass design is superior to the regulation one ?
It would be tempting to think of this as a "one-off" but to the best of my knowledge those were pretty much exclusive to officers. Did British naval officers ever carry/use cutlasses? I know they had their own specified pattern sword, so it seems unlikely. Very interesting and mysterious.
Officers did sometimes choose to use a ship's cutlass instead of their own sword in combat, yes. In addition, some officers' swords were specially made to be more cutlass-like, for example having more cutlass type guards, or having shorter and broader blades. This specific sword is almost certainly a government-owned and issued weapon though, as it has government markings on it.
@@scholagladiatoria Ah! I must have missed that detail in the video. In my mind, that would argue against it being a custom or one-of-a kind weapon. Very mysterious. As a retired sea service officer, I have an interest in naval swords. Sadly, my uniform sword -- like most today -- has a stainless steel blade and the handling characteristics of a cricket bat. Should it become necessary, I'd certainly discard it for an enlisted cutlass. :-D
Heard they had discovered roman remnants up by Hadrian's wall (seems the remains was from a fort that pre-dated the wall), roman cavalry swords among other things. Something you know of or perhaps could pull som strings and look into, would love to hear about those swords.
Fetch the seahorses! Charge!
Shortening a blade and putting a different hilt on it, was way cheaper i think, and if there are lots of unused cavalry blades around, it is the way they would go. I'm not from the UK (continental europe) but the aresenals in my country only bought the blades from manufacturers, and hilted them themselves, so if that practice was also common in Britain, it would be another reason: een cheaper, because your arsenal guys can do the conversion, you don't need to buy anything new from a manufacturer.
So Patrick Harper made it!
I have an 1845 style of cutlass that can be used as a bayonet, I can't find any information on the thing and would appreciate any help at all to ID it.
I suppose it's not worth it to shorten it from the tang end (grind or weld a new tang)?
Is it possible that the Cavalry bladed Cutlas was custom fitted by an ex Cavalryman who switched over to the Navy, or something like that? (Also, we know that collectors often do weird things like this, particularly in Victorian England, either out of ignorance, or as a conversation piece. Which may also account for the lack of provenance.)
mxt mxt: 1, I asked it it were possible. 2, though there are difficulties, that doesn't mean that it never happened. 3, I also gave a third possibility that it may have been fitted by an ignorant collector, or merely as an oddity, to spark conversation in his collection. (Being a collector, Matt even mentions something like this at the end of the video.) Just such a conversation as we're having, here, and now.
All stand and pay your respects for the venerable year of 1845.
Aye laddie, to the .45
Is that a repro rapier on the door behind you, if so where could i purchase one.....?
Nice detective story. 😀
Pretty… anyone making an acceptable-quality current version of the 1845?
No, get an original, they are common and affordable in auctions and most are service sharpened
@@GuitarsRockForever STFU you twat.
Matt, could you do a video on the danger of running with scissors in your hand?
I Agree, I personally like the longer blade 1895 patent cutlass. Ok I admit it I like the straight blades cutlass better.
I have a sword I cannot find info on. It is a straight blade with a big had cover. Is there a way I can send you pictures, to see if you can help?
Could they be a junior officer's sword? Having to provide their own equipment but lacking some funding so they had to reuse an older sword blade rather than buying a new one? Just speculation: I'm not very well versed in naval recruitment procedures but vaguely remember something about having to buy your commission and provide your own gear to specs. Fascinating video by the way.
Need me a cutlass...arrrrr matey!
What were naval officers using in this era? You may have covered this topic, but I don't remember seeing it.
Matt, the iron hilt on those cutlasses, is that cast, or fabricated somehow.
Were the cavalry blades sold to some client state that then lost a war? Blades of the defeated were sometimes demilitarized by cutting off a portion of the blade. Perhaps some entrepreneur acquired enough salvageable blades to justify resale of the remainder.
You said that the cutlass would be great for any era, is there any particular reason why it wasn't created earlier or was there some earlier cutlass-like weapon?
I suspect the forging of a cutlass might require rather advanced technology. It just looks difficult to make
@@joeallen2354 Not for the curvature. For the all-metal construction and the developed guard
Totally underrated weapon......compared to the Katana or Broad sword.
See 'Master And Commander" movie with Russell Crowe.
No. It was obviously shortened for cavalry units that fought on ponies.
@Colin Cleveland And the Yankee Racehorse.
Schooner captains are always looking for a good deal.
So what is a figure 8 cutlass?
Was the conversion from a saber possibly the "father" of the 1845 cutlass? Brits had, in early 1840s, reached the point where they needed to replace the worn-out, once plentiful supply of cutlasses, as you noted. It's logical they would have had a design/development program to come up with the new large production of cutlasses. Had the cavalry blades from 1790s around, cut some down and put on a hilt they devised at the same period. The length and weight and hilt were a winner; designed a proper cutlass pattern blade to suit. Voila! The 1845 Pattern cutlass.
Well, with little documentation available, speculation can be fun. May even be correct.
You say in one of your videos that British naval cutlasses where always single edged, I have one that is double edged. I tried to send you photos but could not find your email
So if I was thrown into a ww1 trench I need a cutlass!
Do you know anything about the broad-bladed "tegha" talwars?
Yes
So why is it that I can't buy a shirt with the scholagladiatoria
logo?
You can through Spreadshirt - linked from the channel front page :-)
@@scholagladiatoria Ah, I see. Most others like Skal have Spreadshirt linked in the video description.
Yeah, if you want an indoors sword you want more 22 inch gladius length where you can still thrust even if you a zero inches away in a press. Any longer and you might as well have a full size sword with reach.
Were cutlasses all issued from the admiralty or did some captains purchase them from their own funds? Might explain a pattern hilt and a repurposed blade.
Huh, I always thought that Cutlass denoted a short saber for close quarters.
Pretty much is. Though I am sure some would be insulted by the thought but that's really what they are, short sabers for close quarter combat. Close quarter isn't just below deck.. the deck itself is only so wide.. combat on one is close quarters. Docks are no wider either. Where are seamen most likely to fight? On a ship or on the docks rather than an open field.... short sabers are a better choice... lets just call them a cutlass.
@@JETWTF Right, same for the boarding pike, and boarding axes, but here's the thing: Matt Easton is calling that a Cutlass, and I'm too fucking wise to argue with Him on British Military Sword Nomeclature.
They are also beefier, thicker blades
Sail me closer Bosun, I want to charge them with my horse!
I'm not sure if you had answered something like this before Matt, but given that urban warfare is the thing now do you see swords or long knives/daggers making a minor resurgence in militaries? Bayonets are still playing a role in modern warfare, albeit a small one. The most common bayonet sizes today have a 5"-7" blade. That size is pretty handy for hand-to-hand combat, but there are hardly any defensive properties to them. I have heard stories of insurgents and other irregular forces utilizing machetes and the like in some situations. There is also a story going around that British forces twice did a bayonet charge in Iraq or Afghanistan. If swords or long knives reentered the arsenals of the modern militaries what style would they be?
You are thinking of the wrong type of warfare ruclips.net/video/r1CWSEAJT1M/видео.html The Philipine military never ditched swords completely because short hacking sword are great jungle tools and weapons of jungle warfare. So, if swords became mainstream again, they would probably follow the Philippine model
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in my opinion, if you want a better thrust weapon to make it longer for reach there is a reason why rapiers are very long
That diagonal hanging schola gladiatoria shield in the back is really unnerving... 😑
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I have an 1841or 1861 short naval sword. I'm looking to sell...
Were these sidearms carried only by officers ?
These are ships' cutlasses to be kept in racks and used by the sailors. The officers carried their own longer swords.
How would a cutlass go up against an officer's sword? Would they use cutlasses too ?