Well done Tim, I had no idea, but to be fair, I haven’t added any new Facebook friends for years and get all my info from Mike Strathern who’s an old gliding friend from the UK prior to his moving to Kiwi land.
I beg to differ about reporting scammers to Facebook Tim. I'm a former glider pilot, but I'm also a guitarist. Because the Facebook algorithm detects this I see a lot of stuff posted about guitars and related equipment. Over the last two years or so I've seen a number of fake ads on Facebook about 'factory outlets' or 'large stores' closing down selling Gibson and other brand name guitars at knock down prices. An example; a Gibson Les Paul Custom, list price around £2,500, 'sale' price $49 US including shipping. To the working musician these are so obviously fake, but if only 1% fall for this scam it's worthwhile for the scammers. I've reported these ads on numerous occasions, even sending emails directly to Facebook, all of them have been ignored. Facebook doesn't care about fake ads because that's the principal way it makes money. The ads are continuing at time of writing.
yes it may be futile, but it can't hurt to report them! This particular phishing scam is common on other sports: www.livesaildie.com/public-service-announcement-dont-fall-for-the-live-stream-facebook-scammers/
Great Job Tim!!! Before the video i did not understand how a scammer could get benefit from a fake FB page.. Anyway Andrea's Gliding & Soaring is a super resource, i write a lot there too.. Ciao da Skizzo.
It was the same with Porsche 944 community. And the 240SX community. And unfortunately even that’s fallen out. Even with the PZL 104 Wilga group I’m involved with have gotten scams recently. Hate seeing this stuff.
Well, you can drive a Porsche 944 proudly through Timbuktu or Astana. Good luck with a stolen ASG 29. Some crooks broke into a hangar in Denmark a few years back and stole a bunch gliders on their trailers. Since they could not sell them they resorted to ransom and tried to blackmail the club for return of the ships. There was a picture of dusted in trailers crammed in a shed.
Suspect data harvesting is a big part of it too, some of those pages are amassing vast amounts of Facebook 'friends'. I also started getting a few emails a day going to spam which is a big difference from 0 previously around the time I followed one page - could be coincidence but probably not. I flew from Nelson Lakes until recently so it's been awesome watching Mike & 280 at the Worlds - go Mike! 🇳🇿
They did the same thing for the World Aerobatics Championships in the US a few weeks ago. There are no streams, you get bait-and-switched to streaming sites for UK TV or similar things. And then you can wind up having to cancel your card to stop the subscriptions...
@@PureGlide Yup, you're required to sign up for a service with a 1 euro "verification" fee and then you get a nondescript charge a few days later for fifty quid or so on a repeating subscription and unsubscribe isn't honoured.
Hi Darren, no, they accessed the private contest tracking data but without the 15 minute delay the everyone else has. PureTrack shows data from the OGN FLARM tracking system that is completely public. PureTrack is just one of a number of websites that show the same data, and competitors and teams are allowed to use it, as long as the data is public.
Most likely the register for the stream requires your Facebook login, and they just steal your login and hack your account. That’s what most of them are.
These scammers do not target gliding enthusiasts, or Porsche or guitar enthusiasts as mentioned here. They target Facebook users, because those are the least internet savvy of all. Facebook itself does nothing about it because of its revenue model, so as long as users don't protest by staying away, they just deserve to be ripped off ;)
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Well done Tim, I had no idea, but to be fair, I haven’t added any new Facebook friends for years and get all my info from Mike Strathern who’s an old gliding friend from the UK prior to his moving to Kiwi land.
There have been a few scammers on gliding buy sell pages on Facebook advertising parts that don't exist
That sucks too!
I beg to differ about reporting scammers to Facebook Tim. I'm a former glider pilot, but I'm also a guitarist. Because the Facebook algorithm detects this I see a lot of stuff posted about guitars and related equipment. Over the last two years or so I've seen a number of fake ads on Facebook about 'factory outlets' or 'large stores' closing down selling Gibson and other brand name guitars at knock down prices. An example; a Gibson Les Paul Custom, list price around £2,500, 'sale' price $49 US including shipping. To the working musician these are so obviously fake, but if only 1% fall for this scam it's worthwhile for the scammers. I've reported these ads on numerous occasions, even sending emails directly to Facebook, all of them have been ignored. Facebook doesn't care about fake ads because that's the principal way it makes money. The ads are continuing at time of writing.
yes it may be futile, but it can't hurt to report them! This particular phishing scam is common on other sports: www.livesaildie.com/public-service-announcement-dont-fall-for-the-live-stream-facebook-scammers/
Great Job Tim!!!
Before the video i did not understand how a scammer could get benefit from a fake FB page..
Anyway Andrea's Gliding & Soaring is a super resource, i write a lot there too..
Ciao da Skizzo.
Damn the scammers! 👎
Thanks for the links, Tim. I'll have a look at them.
That's funny, I´m flying at this comp and have not heard about it. Thanks for the video!
That's probably good! The pilots don't really need the distraction...
It was the same with Porsche 944 community. And the 240SX community. And unfortunately even that’s fallen out. Even with the PZL 104 Wilga group I’m involved with have gotten scams recently. Hate seeing this stuff.
Yeah I should have known it was common among lots of sports!
Well, you can drive a Porsche 944 proudly through Timbuktu or Astana. Good luck with a stolen ASG 29.
Some crooks broke into a hangar in Denmark a few years back and stole a bunch gliders on their trailers. Since they could not sell them they resorted to ransom and tried to blackmail the club for return of the ships.
There was a picture of dusted in trailers crammed in a shed.
thanks for reporting on this topic! 👍🏼
No worries!
This is why we can't have nice things. Bloody scammers.
Yip they are crap!
Thanks Tim
Thanks for watching :)
Suspect data harvesting is a big part of it too, some of those pages are amassing vast amounts of Facebook 'friends'.
I also started getting a few emails a day going to spam which is a big difference from 0 previously around the time I followed one page - could be coincidence but probably not.
I flew from Nelson Lakes until recently so it's been awesome watching Mike & 280 at the Worlds - go Mike! 🇳🇿
Yip most likely! I mean once they have your data, why not try and extract everything out of us poor people as possible!
Excited for your next video!
Coming soon!
They did the same thing for the World Aerobatics Championships in the US a few weeks ago. There are no streams, you get bait-and-switched to streaming sites for UK TV or similar things. And then you can wind up having to cancel your card to stop the subscriptions...
Ah right, so they try and get your credit card to sign up to a 'stream'? interesting
@@PureGlide Yup, you're required to sign up for a service with a 1 euro "verification" fee and then you get a nondescript charge a few days later for fifty quid or so on a repeating subscription and unsubscribe isn't honoured.
Pure Track ?? Is this the same information that the Australian women got penalized for in the Woman's world comp in Australia???
Hi Darren, no, they accessed the private contest tracking data but without the 15 minute delay the everyone else has. PureTrack shows data from the OGN FLARM tracking system that is completely public. PureTrack is just one of a number of websites that show the same data, and competitors and teams are allowed to use it, as long as the data is public.
nice shirt!
The best!
Most likely the register for the stream requires your Facebook login, and they just steal your login and hack your account. That’s what most of them are.
Good to know, thx
@@PureGlide I just realized that they added me on Facebook so I went through and commented on every post that it’s a scam and do not click the link
So sad
Yip it sucks!
These scammers do not target gliding enthusiasts, or Porsche or guitar enthusiasts as mentioned here.
They target Facebook users, because those are the least internet savvy of all. Facebook itself does nothing about it because of its revenue model, so as long as users don't protest by staying away, they just deserve to be ripped off ;)
Stupid facebook
its happens with airshows also
Oh really, interesting