MacBook Pro 16 M1 Pro Vs RTX 3080 Gaming Laptop DaVinci Resolve Performance

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @Techtablets
    @Techtablets  3 года назад +24

    Hi all, forgot to mention in the video I had CUDA acceleration enabled. And it was using my RTX 3080 clearly as per task manager. However, I have the free version so it's slower than the retail one. See this for proof: Could be because it's the free version. But I had CUDA enabled. twitter.com/TechTabletscom/status/1453670398390947842 And it was using my RTX 3080

    • @FunFactsAboutTech
      @FunFactsAboutTech 3 года назад +3

      Probably the best way to put this to bed is to do a standardised bench such as Pugetbench for DaVinci resolve and Premiere Pro. This would allow a proper comparison and would show up if there are any inconsistencies in the RTX3080 laptop GPU acceleration (as we know the type of ballpark figures those systems should be getting).

    • @jaffarbh
      @jaffarbh 3 года назад +19

      Thanks for the clarification. I think the free version uses CUDA to process effects only but uses the CPU to encode to h264/h265 when you export. The paid version uses Nvidia hardware decoder (NVENC), thus much faster exporting.

    • @daviemaxwell
      @daviemaxwell 3 года назад +21

      LOL...
      No GFX Card/cuda acceleration for timeline OR export on the free version of Resolve...
      This is a Olympic to special Olympic comparison....

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +5

      @@FunFactsAboutTech Last video I used Adobe. But not buying a full version of DaVinci just to please a few upset fanboys. BOth free version the results well it is what it is.

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +2

      @@jaffarbh That makes perfect sense.

  • @Icecold_Art
    @Icecold_Art 3 года назад +71

    I'm using the regular M1 13'' Macbook Pro 16GB Ram, since it came out.
    Working professional, concept artist/illustrator and other than Photoshop bugs ( That's on Adobe ) I had no issues with the machine, it was the closest to a "perfect laptop" I ever have been. Working in the summer, sometimes 16h work days during crunch time, not even a fan kicked in while it was 34 degrees Celcius some times. I mean I was sweating like hell, yet this little machine was keeping up no problem. All I could wish for, was more ports, sd card reader and mag safe, plus a bit bigger screen while on the go ( as I usually have it connected to a 32'' 4k Monitor ), aaand all of that is present with the current 14'' and 16''. It obly shows off how crippled by Intel Apple really was, and their move to arm should and will push the entire industry forward.
    I see some people complaining how expensive these macbooks are. Well these are TOOLS, they are meant for work. If one makes a living off of these, then they will pay back and if you made the right life choices they will pay back fast ;). And To be honest other mobile workstations like DELL Precision or such are also super expensive, and I don't see people complaining about that.
    Bright future for all of us creatives and coders out there.
    Last, but not least. Apple finally made that move, determing which stuff is for pros and which is for a regular user, as to be honest most folks out there would be more than happy with the baseline M1 Macbook Air or M1 Mac Mini..
    P.S Chris, disable true tone while doing any color critical work, it messes up the white balance ;)

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +9

      Great comment thank you and for watching 👍🏻

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 3 года назад +3

      Lots of sense in this comment. This is def a prosumer device and if you wanted an update ultrabook Mac wait for next year when the MacBook Air is updated with miniLED and M2.

    • @Xfade81
      @Xfade81 3 года назад

      Ofc it's the perfect laptop if you spent that amount of money. Little bit of bias involved.

    • @jinraigami3349
      @jinraigami3349 3 года назад

      @@andyH_England Doubt the Air and 13inch M2 will have MiniLED, 120Hz Promotion. Think of them as the iPhone 13 mini and the iPhone 13 while 14inch and 16inch are like iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 3 года назад +1

      @@jinraigami3349 I saw a news article where Samsung refused to make the OLED panels Apple wanted for the iPad Air, that is higher quality panels, so I am assuming that the same thing will apply to the MB Air. Apple does not want Samsung second rate displays. Apple has much more miniLED capacity coming online next year and they will want to switch as many products to the new flagship panels of miniLED as OLED now takes over from LCD as the low cost option.

  • @jaffarbh
    @jaffarbh 3 года назад +58

    Based on my own experience with Resolve, I can almost certainly say that the Windows laptop was constrained by the CPU, and the RTX was under utilised

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +7

      Hi it was using it between 30% and 100%, but definitely using it. I had CUDA acceleration enabled. twitter.com/TechTabletscom/status/1453670398390947842

    • @BrazenNL
      @BrazenNL 3 года назад

      So, basically, the components used aren't matched for video work?

    • @atmasinghify
      @atmasinghify 3 года назад +7

      @@Techtablets I can state with 100% certainty since I have tried the free and own Studio that the free version will use some GPU, but Studio version (on Windows) will use the GPU fully. It went from up to 98% CPU and about 20% GPU on the free version to flipping it the other way with 98% GPU and 20% CPU when rendering using Studio.
      I’m not sure what happens on the M1 version though.

    • @masterrenderermx3815
      @masterrenderermx3815 3 года назад +3

      You forgot to mention M1 max has a 10 Core processor, Meanwhile a normal current i7 is about 6 Cores, and that 3080 is still better than that 32 Core GPU

    • @seashellwanderers456
      @seashellwanderers456 3 года назад

      @@masterrenderermx3815 you’re comparing Apple to oranges literally
      Different architectures.

  • @mini9503
    @mini9503 3 года назад +56

    Thanks Chris. This is the _ONLY_ kind of comparison that matters, testing a cross-platform app that is optimized for both OS.

    • @jinwk00
      @jinwk00 3 года назад

      And Linux as well

  • @FunFactsAboutTech
    @FunFactsAboutTech 3 года назад +36

    Wow tireless work Chris. Super responsive with the DaVinci resolve comparison. I'm assuming you had all the GPU acceleration features on with the RTX 3080 laptop? I.e. CUDA specifically selected rather than "auto" and encoder settings to Nvidia?

    • @FunFactsAboutTech
      @FunFactsAboutTech 3 года назад +3

      Looking at this a bit deeper, if you check Pugetbench and their Davinci and Premiere Pro benchmarks, there actually shouldn't be as big a difference as you saw Chris. E.g. I just checked a comparable 11800H laptop with RTX 3080 (16GB RAM) vs an M1max macbook and the scores were quite similar. Desktop 6800XT and RTX 3090 systems with 8+ core CPUs seem to thoroughly demolish the M1max on all these tests

    • @ocaqverdiyevaydin5900
      @ocaqverdiyevaydin5900 3 года назад +1

      @@FunFactsAboutTech m1 max is notebook processor, not desktop

    • @fantastic2671
      @fantastic2671 3 года назад +8

      I watched other comparison reviews aswell and I’m 100% sure he doesn’t have gpu acceleration on. These reviews had lower speced laptops with lower Gpu tdps and still were either similar or outperformed the m1 max. I’m wondering if it was intentional or based off ignorance, because he said this is the laptop he uses to edit 4k, if its the latter i feel bad for the guy lol

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +6

      Could be because it's the free version. But I had CUDA enabled. twitter.com/TechTabletscom/status/1453670398390947842 And it was using my RTX 3080

    • @RunForPeace-hk1cu
      @RunForPeace-hk1cu 3 года назад +3

      @@FunFactsAboutTech Those desktop computers are .... 500W+ (CPU/GPU/RAM/etc ..) ... the M1Pro is a ... 50-60W part ... M1Max is a 90W part ... that runs of battery at ful speed.
      What are you even doing being a PC apologist.

  • @Bushidounohana
    @Bushidounohana 3 года назад +17

    Between Final Cut and Resolve, it sort of makes a fella wonder how much better Premiere could be on Apple silicon if Adobe felt incentivized enough to optimize it accordingly. Appreciate the comparisons, keep up the good work!

    • @DaCarnival
      @DaCarnival 3 года назад +1

      If you have a mac, you really owe it to yourself to use Final Cut. That's what you get for that Apple tax... Running Premiere on Mac is just a waste.

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +1

      I need to buy it, but 299 euros ouch

    • @smoofles
      @smoofles 3 года назад

      @@Techtablets Resolve is likely enough, though, and it’s free. Plus the development pace seems pretty nice (and more transparent than what Apple does with Final Cut).

    • @walrusgumboot
      @walrusgumboot 3 года назад +1

      @@Techtablets how much you paying for premiere though? I bought FCPX years ago and get free updates regularly and no ongoing fee

  • @ChristianWagner888
    @ChristianWagner888 3 года назад +17

    Amazingly impressive benchmark of a Mac by a PC guy. I appreciate the professional comparison without fanboyism.

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +2

      Thank you for watching.

    • @szymonronowicz9019
      @szymonronowicz9019 3 года назад +1

      @@benjiro8793 The main point of this video is "if you work with Davinci Resolve get Macbook Pro", not "If you use laptop get Macbook Pro". The author doesn't claim it's best for everything. It's just really good in tasks it was made for. Even the title says what this video is about. What do you not understand here?

  • @aflac82
    @aflac82 3 года назад +12

    About the weird color on MacBook: it seems like your whole screen's colors are shifted, including UI elements within the program, and even the "close, minimize, maximize" buttons on the upper left. Which leaves me suspecting you accidentally turned on color-blind mode like deuteranopia which produces the exact colors to be shifted.

    • @NatJulianBelza
      @NatJulianBelza 3 года назад

      I've mentioned this already to him in his other video. Although I suspected he might have used a wrong color profile initially, but yours could be right.

    • @spencerbigum1309
      @spencerbigum1309 3 года назад

      Agreed! Haven’t seen this issue on other channels.

  • @vicentesalasii1480
    @vicentesalasii1480 Год назад +2

    Hi, longtime Resolve Studio user here. Yes, as many others have already pointed out, the free version for Resolve is NOT AT ALL an accurate presentation of how Resolve can maximize use of a RTX 3080 in its full fledged performance glory, since the free version barely makes use of all the bells and whistles of a powerful GPU and leans more on the integrated graphics and CPU for major tasks. Resolve Studio was originally designed to be heavily GPU dependent, especially CUDA as it has its origins as a Color Grading suite. So by virtue of that, it stands to reason that the better your GPU and its respective VRAM, the better Resolve Studio is going to perform on your machine. It's not that CPU and RAM don't matter, as they most certainly do in any multithreading intensive task like NLE editing, it's just that compared to Premiere, which is more CPU multithreading dependent, Resolve Studio is actually far more GPU dependent. So the limitations of your 11800H here was definitely holding back the performance of your free version of Resolve in this video.

  • @piotrka2842
    @piotrka2842 6 месяцев назад +2

    He's using free DVR which didn't utilize GPU back than. So it's CPU+GPU on M1 vs just CPU. Since 18 DVR uses GPU and it just flies on rtx

    • @roccobarone9
      @roccobarone9 4 месяца назад

      Hello and thanks for your info.. i’m using DVR the free version ( and probably the latest version, i have to check to be sure.. ), could you confirm that DVR free version utilizes the GPU so i’m good to go if i have a RTX 3080 on my pc with a Ryzen 5600x cpu ( Gaming cpu ), i don’t want to use a MacOs laptop I much prefer Windows if is possible.. 😅

  • @christianpski
    @christianpski 3 года назад +7

    It's possible that there's some color filter turned on in the accessibility settings of the MBP. That might explain the lack of reds.

    • @rrp6405
      @rrp6405 3 года назад +4

      yeah, everything looks yellow, even the menu bar item like creative cloud menu button

    • @nicholaslucia7836
      @nicholaslucia7836 3 года назад +1

      TrueTone is on

  • @Bruhtastic_sarP
    @Bruhtastic_sarP 3 года назад +11

    Is the resolve on the PC is the free or studio version?
    (Cuz the free version only using the CPU while rendering)

    • @izzieb
      @izzieb 3 года назад +3

      This

    • @GabbyTech
      @GabbyTech 3 года назад +3

      he uses studio version, you can choose what to decode on native or gpu. Gpu + hardware accelaration

    • @GeoSebastians
      @GeoSebastians 3 года назад

      That's not true! I use the Free version, and my GPU is utilized.

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +2

      Free version

    • @Alexx_80
      @Alexx_80 3 года назад +2

      @@Techtablets Free version doesn't support hardware encoding. At least not till the last version 17.4.

  • @GeoSebastians
    @GeoSebastians 3 года назад +2

    Thank you very much Chris for the super fast turnaround! :) 😊
    Awesome comparison.

  • @smoofles
    @smoofles 3 года назад +7

    macOS has color-managed graphics contexts, which usually is a good thing. However, if there is a bug or something affecting the color management (True Tone maybe?) it will show up across those contexts. At least now we know what the video would look like if Minions would edit it.

    • @spencerbigum1309
      @spencerbigum1309 3 года назад

      Haven’t noticed this issue by other RUclips reviews

    • @smoofles
      @smoofles 3 года назад

      @@spencerbigum1309 Yeah, me neither. Would be interesting to know if a reboot fixed it (=bug) or whether it remained (either color management mis-setup or hardware defect).

  • @stevenswall
    @stevenswall 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for doing this. Exactly what I was going to ask for on your Adobe Premier video.

  • @toxotis70
    @toxotis70 3 года назад +3

    Please, make the same test unplugged… they are laptops .

  • @mccubbing23
    @mccubbing23 3 года назад +2

    So was that the free non studio version? From my understanding the paid version should be using 100% of the GPU and not so much of the CPU in which case the rendering time and such would be a gross amount longer.

  • @Syntax.error.
    @Syntax.error. 3 года назад +6

    Amazing only sad part is that there are no games for MacOS to use all that power. But for editing this is amazing.

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +5

      Yes sadly still need a pc for gaming/ but right now for my video editing this is where it’s at.

    • @seashellwanderers456
      @seashellwanderers456 3 года назад

      give it a year, most games can be ran at decent fps currently. your eyes can't really see more than 30-80fps anyway..

    • @seashellwanderers456
      @seashellwanderers456 3 года назад +1

      @@HomerAndRoe technically the human eye can only see 30-60fps but some people can see up to 76fps.
      It’s understandable people would notice a difference from 60 to 120fps but from 90 to 120fps you wouldn’t see a difference unless the frame drops below 90

    • @charlievarley
      @charlievarley 3 года назад

      Seashell Wanderers I have alway found the pc race for more FPS confusing. Consoles have traditionally targeted 30fps, Movies are played at 24fps in the cinema and tv here in the uk tv is broadcast at 25fps. Is it to eliminate stuttering and tearing or is it the fast pace of some games that make lower FPS more pronounced?

  • @benjamina6915
    @benjamina6915 3 года назад +2

    I'm not sure what you're doing, but rendering my videos on a i7-10875H paired with 'only' a RTX2060 seldom takes longer than the actual time the output video is. Most of the time it's half of the time or less. I'm getting similar results to what your first video showed. You MSI needing 38 mins for a 17min video is totally off. You should really remove this video since you used a crippled free version of DaVinci for Windows.

  • @cheese186
    @cheese186 3 года назад +4

    The RTX 3080 is irrelevant here since you're not using hardware acceleration on Windows and it's using only the CPU to export the video, which is obviously slower. You are misleading people with these kind of comparisons.

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +1

      Why as when it encodes it's using my RTX 3080, I can see in the task manager. See this as proof twitter.com/TechTabletscom/status/1453671640764723207 it's using my RTX 3080 and Core i7 11800H

    • @cheese186
      @cheese186 3 года назад +2

      @@Techtablets No it's not, check my reply with a picture of advanced gpu settings there. 0% of the gpu used on video encoding. The GPU is used because it's still doing stuff, like playback etc, but not the actual encoding.

    • @cheese186
      @cheese186 3 года назад

      @Piyath no it's not, the GPU is not encoding the video, everybody that knows a bit about davinci knows this plus you can check my answer to his tweet

  • @MarksTech
    @MarksTech 3 года назад

    the fact alone that if you unplugged that windows laptop from the power source, it'll probably do that export in one hour. meanwhile you can unplug the Mac, and the power is still 100%. that small detail alone already makes the Mac a much more powerful machine.

  • @tltaddme4824
    @tltaddme4824 3 года назад +6

    Premier always got problem with optimization, on Mac, Davinc resolve and final cut make big difference.

    • @wgunder1
      @wgunder1 3 года назад

      Its not just Mac the truth is Premiere despite all its pluses is running an extremely dated engine that has been patched so much that calling it Spaghetti code doesn't even to begin to describe how messed up it is.

  • @pkpnyt4711
    @pkpnyt4711 3 года назад +9

    I've seen 3080's render a 22 minute 4k video in less than 9 minutes. Have you checked if the video card is setup to use the 3080 properly and not on auto (meaning it will use discreet graphics and CPU at the same time)? It would also be great if we could see CPU and GPU usage during rendering.

    • @SteveGamesOnline
      @SteveGamesOnline 3 года назад +1

      there is a possibility this dude hasn’t turn on hardware acceleration.

    • @Alexx_80
      @Alexx_80 3 года назад

      @@SteveGamesOnline He's using free version. On Windows, free version doesn't support nvenc (all versions prior 17.4). On a Mac hardware encoding is supported out of the box.

    • @cheerlin
      @cheerlin 3 года назад

      wondering if the windows version has Resolve Studio (paid) used, which can affect GPU usage?

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад

      Could be because it's the free version. But I had CUDA enabled. twitter.com/TechTabletscom/status/1453670398390947842 And it was using my RTX 3080

    • @Alexx_80
      @Alexx_80 3 года назад +4

      @@Techtablets Cuda has nothing to do with hardware encoder. I suggest you (no offense) to redo the test with enabling hardware encoder on nvidia gpu. Newest free version of Resolve (17.4) should have hardware h264 h265 nvidia encoders available in settings.

  • @cbm80amiga
    @cbm80amiga 3 года назад +2

    Chris, like always very good video. Thank you for this test.

  • @NoahErickson
    @NoahErickson 2 года назад +4

    The free version doesn’t really use the GPU, unfortunately. On the free version my Windows laptop (XPS 17, i7-10875, 32GB, RTX 2070 MaxQ) is 1/3 the speed of my base model M1 Mac Mini. On Resolve Studio, the PC is 30% faster. And my desktop (i7 12700kf, 32GB, RTX 3070) is 3x the speed of the M1.

    • @laurentiudll
      @laurentiudll Год назад

      of course, but he call you in another comment a fanboy for this argument

  • @fishycomics
    @fishycomics 2 года назад +2

    guess I can go now, mac m1 16 wins, MSI not the laptop to get.

  • @nnnnnn3647
    @nnnnnn3647 3 года назад +3

    I think is something wrong with all colors on MBP, not only in da Vinci. Every color is wrong. Look at RED dot in windows - it's yellow. Check color profile. Maybe True Tone is on?

  • @apocryphal_man
    @apocryphal_man Год назад +1

    Isn’t it kind of pointless running these tests with the free version of davinci?

  • @Lightningomega
    @Lightningomega 3 года назад +1

    This is what it’s all about: the real world. The M1 Pro and Max are designed for quality of life and speed for professionals editing video and building things. All the synthetic benchmarks don’t matter because they don’t account for the other parts of the SoC, like the encoder/decoder/display engines.
    Also, the *entire system* is operating with RAM throughput of 200/400GB/s. That’s four to eight times DDR5 which is the fastest available for consumers today. There’s nothing quite like this on the market.
    Edit: 140GB/s DDR5 is planned for consumers in the future using the fastest clock rates available.

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад

      Yes it's impressive alright!

  • @armirtx58
    @armirtx58 3 года назад +1

    where is price?

  • @TomTheAustrian
    @TomTheAustrian 3 года назад +1

    True tone means that the colors shown are changed according to the ambient light sensors readings. You have to turn it off during video editing.

  • @vldbel
    @vldbel 2 года назад +2

    It isn't ok to compare these laptops on free version DR, because on windows DR didn't use your RTX card for encoding.

  • @arjunan.b4072
    @arjunan.b4072 2 года назад

    Feeling so happy by watching this, because my M1 Pro is on the way to me. And eagerly waiting to test all i can and upgrade myself. Thanks brother for such a great video.

  • @cbm80amiga
    @cbm80amiga 3 года назад +1

    Are you going to open your MBPro? I'm wondering if you have 5-chip SSD too. BTW it is possible to solder extra chips like in older MB to upgrade SSD space cheaper :)

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад

      No plans to open it for my warrenty

  • @sullenday
    @sullenday 3 года назад +2

    Are you using the free version of Davinci? The free version won’t use the video card for export. Just curious because i prefer to keep using the free version as it’s just fore me on RUclips.

    • @goobfilmcast4239
      @goobfilmcast4239 3 года назад +2

      but the free version is optimized for the M1 Pro?

    • @sullenday
      @sullenday 3 года назад

      @@goobfilmcast4239 that’s what I want to know. Is he using the free version on the M1 or do you have to upgrade to pro version for full use of graphics cores for encoding?

    • @goobfilmcast4239
      @goobfilmcast4239 3 года назад +1

      @@sullenday fair enough but I'd like to see the same "tests" with both units unplugged from start to finish...and the remaining power of each at the end.

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +1

      This was the free version on both laptops

  • @TonyMacina
    @TonyMacina 3 года назад +2

    To get the full speed with Windows you do need the studio version, best way to get it is get a lovely Blackmagic Pocket camera and get the £300 license for free with it.

  • @daviddadamo2290
    @daviddadamo2290 3 года назад +1

    How would this compare with a Ryzen 9 5900 paired with RTX 3080? Is it a CPU or GPU bottleneck?

  • @hollowman856
    @hollowman856 3 года назад +6

    To get rid of the yellow look turn off true tone

  • @rrp6405
    @rrp6405 3 года назад +2

    BTW the delay of loading some apps first time on M1 is because its compiling x86 code with rosetta

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад

      Ah makes sense. But even when it's native Apple silicon ARM?

    • @rrp6405
      @rrp6405 3 года назад

      @@Techtablets It wont need to on native apps but there may be some plugins or parts that are still x86 so will need to do for those bits

  • @cjrciadt
    @cjrciadt 3 года назад +4

    Excellent video, I guess the M1 Max would complete at close to 6:30 minutes..

    • @trevorbirch1291
      @trevorbirch1291 3 года назад +1

      m1 max takes 1/2 the time

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад

      It would be a hell of a lot faster yes.

    • @trevorbirch1291
      @trevorbirch1291 3 года назад

      @@Techtablets hey mate i'm considering buying the m1 max 32gb spec for editing 4k/6k raw files. how is the ram usages on your device for editing 4k videos? thanks

    • @jjchockey
      @jjchockey 3 года назад

      Even my 8GB M1 Air can handle a few streams of 4K 10bit footage. It’s quite amazing what these machines can do. 32GB is more then enough.

    • @trevorbirch1291
      @trevorbirch1291 3 года назад

      @@jjchockey then 32 is way more than enough for me. didn't wanna spend that extra 400 buck on 64gb ram. thanks mate

  • @JoTokutora
    @JoTokutora 3 года назад +2

    That shows software optimization That is developer dependent. Try Premier?

  • @max-lee
    @max-lee 3 года назад +2

    can we turn off the front wavy rgb on msi laptop? that's gonna annoy me if i were to buy it. m1 pro looks amazing.

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +1

      Yes of course I normally have it off

  • @jbaldwinLIFE
    @jbaldwinLIFE 3 года назад

    I think there might be something wrong with your machine? The RUclips logo was yellow too?? Turn off TrueTone--should fix it?

  • @pbrigham
    @pbrigham 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for the video, as aspected the obsolete jet engine PC didn't had a chance, no doubt the future is ARM and unify memory technology.

  • @MarshallCant
    @MarshallCant 2 года назад +1

    Something funky here. I have checked a few dozen M1 versus RTX tests and the M1 is always much slower. NVIDIA has some actual lab tests as well and the M1 isn't even close. I am not bagging on the M1 machines they are awesome but they don't measure up to the RTX's.

  • @muzaffarteja
    @muzaffarteja 2 года назад +1

    Is it like for like comparison?

  • @SagarDass
    @SagarDass 3 года назад +1

    Is 5900x with 3070 or 3080 better than m1 pro ?

  • @TheJoseUrena
    @TheJoseUrena 3 года назад +1

    Free version of DaVinci? No Cuda acceleration on free version. You are telling me that you where wasting your RTX performance all this time?

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +1

      Free version Vs Free version. I’m not about to buy it for just one video. Send me a license and I’ll do paid Vs free version then.

    • @TheJoseUrena
      @TheJoseUrena 3 года назад +1

      @@Techtablets why do i have to? If you have a 3080 laptop and you use DaVinci professionally, then you need the license

    • @bunaLsh0ng
      @bunaLsh0ng 3 года назад +2

      @@Techtablets then change the title to M1 Pro Vs Ryzen 5900HS. the GPU spikes in your task manager is not video encode/decode or CUDA.
      Blendlogic Tech had to re-title his video because the results of his first tests on Blender is misleading.
      As commented in your pinned comment Davinci Resolve Studio License is transferable you can still use it in your future review of the next generation of Apple, Intel, AMD, and Nvidia chips.

  • @roccobarone9
    @roccobarone9 4 месяца назад

    Hello Chris, why the Windows Pc with a dedicated GPU is slower than the M1 Pro? DaVinci Resolve is a CPU related task? I would expect a RTX 3080 to destroy the M1 chip to be honest.. Thanks for your video

  • @stac
    @stac 3 года назад +2

    I use my laptop to make money and I also game alot, are these new mac books suitable for me?

    • @mixedup5858
      @mixedup5858 3 года назад +3

      Gaming? No

    • @goobfilmcast4239
      @goobfilmcast4239 3 года назад +1

      for making the money?...Yes.....for gaming, buy a Playstation or a build a Ryzen-based desktop.....what is the point of buying a "Gaming Laptop" then having to plug it in to get optimal performance?

    • @jjchockey
      @jjchockey 3 года назад

      Get a $999 M1 Air and a $499 Xbox series X. $1500 and you got insane video game performance and more then enough power in a laptop for 99% of people.

    • @stac
      @stac 3 года назад

      Thanks for the answers guys. I saw some people was raving about these new macbooks' powerful gpu. I thought I can get some nice gaming on it + nice sleek looking laptop (never owned any apple items before). Guess I'll stick with Windows and go ahead with lenovo's Legion or something then.

    • @jjchockey
      @jjchockey 3 года назад

      @@stac For gaming PCs are still superior. If you are a creator the new M1 wipes the floor.

  • @MobileDecay
    @MobileDecay Год назад

    I have a 3050 gaming laptop and an m1 iPad which matches the speed of the M1 Macs with exports in resolve and the gaming laptop is smacking the iPad into outer space. Not sure what you did to get this result. 😬

  • @charmingarpit1982
    @charmingarpit1982 3 года назад

    Were you using DaVinci Resolv Studio on Windows PC? If not, these results are not correct.

  • @ClowderBeatsAnimals
    @ClowderBeatsAnimals Год назад

    Thank you for the comparison video, exactly what we're looking for.

  • @bunaLsh0ng
    @bunaLsh0ng 3 года назад +1

    @TechTablets then change the title to M1 Pro Vs Ryzen 5900HS. the GPU spikes in your task manager is not video encode/decode or CUDA.
    Blendlogic Tech had to re-title his video because the results of his first tests on Blender is misleading.
    As commented in your pinned comment Davinci Resolve Studio License is transferable you can still use it in your future review of the next generation of Apple, Intel, AMD, and Nvidia chips.

  • @Mangust2
    @Mangust2 7 месяцев назад

    What encoders in use on windows? Intel or Nvidia? And maybe i missed what codecs? It feels that win was using software coders? no?

  • @mex5341
    @mex5341 Год назад

    Did you add Nvidia Gpu acceleration option in Davinchi Settings ?

  • @GlebDevyatkin
    @GlebDevyatkin 3 года назад +1

    Is it only export (re-encoding) of original video? Or some editing (e.g. color/levels/curves) involved?

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +2

      Hi 2 long clips I had changed the colour a bit to force it to redo the whole clip. Maybe that was where the Intel Windows machine was struggling. The rest there was no editing just cuts to make the 18 minute clip. Very basic edits

    • @GlebDevyatkin
      @GlebDevyatkin 3 года назад

      @@Techtablets thanks for explanation. M1 looks impressive in that test.

  • @xodius80
    @xodius80 Год назад +2

    free version does not have HW encoder, so video card on windows is not utilized. defeats the comparison.

  • @HoundDogMech
    @HoundDogMech Год назад

    What's the Difference in Price and SSD for these two machines.

  • @andersbjorkman8666
    @andersbjorkman8666 Год назад +1

    "Does DaVinci Resolve Free Version Use GPU for Rendering? The free version of DaVinci Resolve doesn't support GPU for rendering. Instead, the CPU does the rendering (encoding). The paid version, also known as DaVinci Resolve Studio, can use GPU for rendering which dramatically speeds up the encoding process."

  • @DragonsinGenesisPodcast
    @DragonsinGenesisPodcast 3 года назад +1

    I knew we’d see a difference when using DaVinci. Premiere still runs poorly on the new chips. I wonder what’s causing that color issue though. I’m guessing there’s something wonky with the particular codec used by that camera and the decoders in the Apple chip. They just don’t play well together. My guess is that it’ll be corrected with a software update in the near future. There were lots of little bugs like this on M1 but within a few months the vast majority were gone.

  • @some-one-else-r
    @some-one-else-r 3 года назад +2

    That's one huge bezel on that GE66

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +1

      Land a 747 on it

    • @RunForPeace-hk1cu
      @RunForPeace-hk1cu 3 года назад

      but Notchgate!!!! LOL ... There are already software to "disable the notch" and turn it into a bezel ...
      Guess what, those same people that bitch about it ... after turn on the s/w patch .. will disable it because they realize how stupid it is not to use the "notch area" as their menu bars.

  • @NG-wo8xt
    @NG-wo8xt 3 года назад +1

    For export just choose nvidia codec and performance will be the same if not better for 3080

  • @T_bomb99
    @T_bomb99 2 года назад

    Great video. I have the msi gp66 leopard rtx 8030. I'm looking to buy the MacBook pro m1 max with the higher specs and 1tb. How do you think the m1 pro max would do up against our msi laptops. Every comparison I've seen is with the m1 pro alone. I'm mostly using it for photo and some video editing. As for the screens no one ever mentions the proper Liquid Retina XDR Screen for the MacBook m1 pro. I prefer that over the matte screen my msi has plus I find it's not bright enough when editing my photos. I guess you sort of answered my question at the end. Lol

  • @maxone007
    @maxone007 3 года назад

    Please make one more thing comparing these two machines - unplug both laptops from the power cord and I bet MSI will take 3 times longer to export the same video file.

  • @Trusteft
    @Trusteft 3 года назад +1

    Oh this is depressing.
    I have a 2014 hardware PC and a late 2012 Mac Mini. I stopped using the Mini some time ago with the upgrade of the FCPX engine which killed performance on it. The Windows PC is fine for everything as far as I am concerned and thankfully (poor) still works 100%. But the one thing that pissing me off is the slow (not sure how to call it) speed which the "screenshots" on the timeline change when I move the timeline/zoom etc. On 1080p not so much, still there as it is the 4K in your PC. But higher resolution, 1440p and especially 4K is just annoying. Not that it take minutes or anything, but the few seconds I have to wait till it refreshes, just kill my rhythm. I don't know if that makes sense.
    Mind you I am not using DaVinci Resolve, using Vegas 17, but still.
    Thanks for the video.

  • @e-genieclimatique
    @e-genieclimatique 3 года назад

    and for the use of the ram between these two pc?

  • @petriteittinen2530
    @petriteittinen2530 3 года назад

    Great video, thanks. About the color issue, did you notice that all colors were incorrect within the Mac M1 Resolve, not only the video? The export window for example, with its RUclips preset, the RUclips logo looked incorrect. And when you popped open the apps bar at the bottom of screen, with Resolve open in the background, I think the apps logos looked a bit weird as well.

  • @kodakapple
    @kodakapple 3 года назад +4

    Davinci is using only CPU in exports

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +1

      No it's not twitter.com/TechTabletscom/status/1453671640764723207

  • @JoATTech
    @JoATTech Год назад

    Is YT preset utilizing Nvidia encoders? Because my 2070 renders faster if they are utilized.

  • @LocalSlaveHolder
    @LocalSlaveHolder 3 года назад +2

    Now if you want your videos to render even faster, you can shoot in ProRes RAW, and edit in Final Cut Pro X using MacBook Pro M1 Max, render time will be under 4 minutes with same exact project

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад

      Yes I need to buy Final Cut Pro

    • @vicious12394
      @vicious12394 2 года назад

      But you'll be limited to final cut which isnt the best when you want to grade.

  • @aussieexpatwatches
    @aussieexpatwatches Год назад

    Could you retry this test using h265 encode instead? I've found that h265 is actually much faster than h264 on 3000 series cards.

  • @nyambe
    @nyambe 3 года назад

    I don't know much about windows GPUs. Everybody mentions that 3080. Is that one the top GPUs? how does the RTX3080 compare with AMD Radeons on previous Macbook pro?

  • @ZevHoover
    @ZevHoover 3 года назад

    thanks, this is tireless work! I hope ad revenue pays enough for the stress getting this out so fast.

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +2

      I hope so too! But at the current views maybe not but still It was interesting to see the end result.

    • @ZevHoover
      @ZevHoover 3 года назад +1

      @@Techtablets I think this is evergreen content people will come back to for 6mo at least.
      Wanted to extend my gratitude when I see most comments are just requesting more tests for their specific use case... thankless work!

  • @christslove7986
    @christslove7986 Год назад

    Two things:
    - This seems to be DaVinci Resolve specific as other software you reviewed showed the PC ~30% faster.
    - What needs to be $2700 vs. $2700 E.G. the Apple - MacBook Pro 16" Laptop M2 Pro vs. the Dell XPS 15 with the Intel Core i9-12900HK and the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Ti, 4 GB GDDR6.
    - Battery life would also be much more comparable.
    *Of course your commenters like ME always have lots of plans for YOUR money. LOL!

  • @AntonisK
    @AntonisK 3 года назад +1

    so in windows laptop was gpu encoding was correctly used? gpu usage?

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад

      I had CUDA enabled. twitter.com/TechTabletscom/status/1453670398390947842 And it was using my RTX 3080

  • @Tigerex966
    @Tigerex966 3 года назад +1

    I am sure black magic will give you the studio version for Windows so that the Nvidia GPU is used.
    Only then would this be a fair comparison.
    Please reach out to them.
    We all want to see how they both perform fairly Mac fans and windows fan.
    Thanks.

  • @aaronmoe12
    @aaronmoe12 2 года назад +1

    This is the most biased comparison. You’re using the free version of davinci resolve, the free version for windows does not use hardware acceleration, but it does for Mac IOS. If you want to have a fair comparison use the studio version. Horrible comparison.

  • @NatJulianBelza
    @NatJulianBelza 3 года назад +2

    Mate, like in your last video, the colors on the MacBook pro is off. Reds are orange, and oranges are yellow. I already pointed this out in your other video. Color profiles applied to the display ( in the system preferences > display ) applies to the whole display, not just the media files. If it's not the color profile then you might have an accessibility feature for color blindedness activated.
    It should be very apparent that the colors on the MacBook are way off.

  • @charlievarley
    @charlievarley 3 года назад

    Another great comparison! Is this the same clip as the Premier Pro test earlier? If so could you put the final render times of both machines in a pinned comment or in your description. It would be nice to see how the software compares with each other in both machines

  • @Kavones
    @Kavones 3 года назад

    Hi! What about titles and Lower thirds im Fusion? Is nade model good enough for 4K?

  • @_samsafi
    @_samsafi 3 года назад

    It might be the true tone turned on that was affecting the colour

  • @FC-eo9tn
    @FC-eo9tn 3 года назад

    ......THANK YOU! ...what was the best price for your new Apple M1 Pro Notebook?

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +1

      Expensive 2.7k euros 😱

    • @FC-eo9tn
      @FC-eo9tn 3 года назад

      @@Techtablets 🤑🤣

    • @FC-eo9tn
      @FC-eo9tn 3 года назад

      @@Techtablets ... maybe there is a offer on Black Friday or Cyber Monday???

  • @BorisZX6R
    @BorisZX6R 3 года назад +1

    AFAIK the rtx3080 is not even needed/used for this process... Video editing/rendering should be a cpu/ram/ssd dependent process/task.
    I wonder how a ryzen equivalent would compare to the mac...

  • @michaeltrujillojr.9741
    @michaeltrujillojr.9741 3 года назад

    I was thinking of getting the MacBook Pro 16 to replace my razer 17in. I usually use Xbox game pass and Xbox companion to stream my games when I’m not in my room. Can you get both of those on the new MacBook.?

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад

      Hi, yes it works on Mac. So streaming games is an option. What you get over the Razer is battery life a huge step up and basically zero fan noise it's super quiet.

    • @michaeltrujillojr.9741
      @michaeltrujillojr.9741 3 года назад

      @@Techtablets ok cool I’m going to grab the Mac the I love my razer but the battery life is so bad

    • @michaeltrujillojr.9741
      @michaeltrujillojr.9741 3 года назад

      @@Techtablets how do I get it on a Mac ?

  • @luissantiagosuarezcely4983
    @luissantiagosuarezcely4983 2 года назад

    these videos are in wich format ?

  • @Cccoast
    @Cccoast 2 года назад

    Have you tried to load the video in 2k? Is it still yellow?

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  2 года назад

      No software updates fixed that bug

  • @GabbyTech
    @GabbyTech 3 года назад +1

    on windows pc what settings did you use native or gpu ?

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад

      Could be because it's the free version. But I had CUDA enabled. twitter.com/TechTabletscom/status/1453670398390947842 And it was using my RTX 3080

    • @GabbyTech
      @GabbyTech 3 года назад

      @@Techtablets free version I believe behaves different was curious about this part thank you :) very nice review

  • @BioHorror
    @BioHorror 3 года назад +1

    Try H.265. Its 4 times faster on my Windows PC than 264 since the recent update

  • @giancarlovalerio2454
    @giancarlovalerio2454 3 года назад

    Hola from Málaga Chris. Great Video again!! Would you recomend the M1 Pro with 8-core CPU, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine and 32 gigs. Or, the 10-core CPU, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine and 16 gigs?? .. It comes up to the same price with the difference either in ram or GPU/CPU and 14 and 16 inches. Gracias!!

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +1

      I guess it depends on how much you multi task if you need that RAM more go for that config

  • @leeww951
    @leeww951 3 года назад

    Nice comparison video!

  • @luckylukas3506
    @luckylukas3506 2 года назад +1

    This video should be deleted. Don't compare GPU vs CPU! Please ...

  • @LuisClement
    @LuisClement Год назад

    Thanks. Keep in mind that you could have the MBP unplugged and the result would be the same as well. Cheers!

  • @wamote6867
    @wamote6867 3 года назад

    Again a nice review - and what we can see is... we should choose the Hardware for the software we want to use.

  • @sinsibozkurt8250
    @sinsibozkurt8250 3 года назад

    What is the msi's cpu do you know. İf he says, ı couldnt translate

  • @asm-g2132
    @asm-g2132 3 года назад

    It is normal the Cpu and Gpu from the MacBook they are optimized for that type of work, editing and other things but If you test in games there the MSI beats him easy ,but it is normal MSI for games and Mac to edit! Good continuation and good luck with your channel I love it 👍‍!!

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 3 года назад

      This is a pro laptop not for gaming so that is def true but moot for the majority buying these Macs. You are correct that Apple optimises for creators with encoder and decoder chips and that will hopefully get Intel and AMD to up their game. If the games were out there then the Mac would be a great gaming device due to its unified memory, being able to use nearly all of the 32GB RAM for GPU tasks means that the dGPU’s in gaming machines would look sad.

  • @paulrubens3048
    @paulrubens3048 3 года назад

    can you do the same test
    with the M1 younger brother ?
    Not the Pro,

  • @killertoast96
    @killertoast96 3 года назад +2

    Nice test, as an long time windows user this is really tempting... What would be interesting to me is a comparison in resolve where you apply some heavier 3D effects and other fusion effects like stabilization and noise reduction. This is a field where the windows Laptop might have an edge because of the vram and raw GPU power (at least it had in tests against die regular m1 macs).
    Keep up the great work✌️

    • @Techtablets
      @Techtablets  3 года назад +3

      I might have to test that with some heavier editing with that. But still I think the overall export and even just use will be faster on the M1 Proa and Max Vs PC everything is so fluid and quick. Even switching modes was so much faster on the MacBook as shown I was amazed. And I’m a Windows guys not Mac.

    • @killertoast96
      @killertoast96 3 года назад +1

      @@Techtablets that sounds great! I mean just put in some of these effects and transitions and go crazy with the color sliders and curves, it does not have to look good for the test. That would be so helpful!
      I disliked apple products for a very long time and have never thought I would ever even consider a Mac. As I am doing more and more creative work the display and the performance look just to good to be true

    • @wellszhou8286
      @wellszhou8286 3 года назад

      @@killertoast96 Oh, by the way, Apple’s silicon on these new machines has apparently more vram then any machine out there even a 50,000 desktop machine doesn’t have this level of vram

  • @paulbeckmann
    @paulbeckmann 3 года назад

    Great test! Thank you!

  • @Gaijin101
    @Gaijin101 3 года назад

    this is Proper testing. unlike those casual isheep reviews.
    thanks for the hardwork as always :)

    • @MzwandileHarmans
      @MzwandileHarmans 3 года назад +1

      It’s still way way powerful than that gaming laptop or you’re referring to the video colour ?