From other tests it seems like your performance will be almost identical. But on the 14 battery life will be a serious concern with the MAX. I just got the Base M1 Pro 14 inch after owning M1 MB Air since launch, the battery life on the 14 is significantly worse than the M1 while performance isn't night and day better
I ended up going with the 14" M1 Pro base model - by the time you had a 16GB RAM/512 SSD it was almost the same cost as the M1 models with those added...
Nice video... I am not an editor or anything like that. I just have a few GoPro videos I like to edit. Said that, I was just about to ask what sense it makes for the need of real time playback when adding effects? I would think that you edit your video first, see how it looks like (from an edit perspective) and then add your effects. Since you already know how the video "looks like", you would not need real time playback. HOWEVER, at the end, you prefect explain why you would need real time playback... when sitting there with a client. Makes sense. Thanks.
ALEX, Thank u for your courses, I have learned a lot. However, my 2018 mbp is slow, so I want another long term MacBook Pro. I have NVME ext storage. To cut down render times and edit in real time from original BRAW, should I get the M3 MAX mbp with 64GB RAM and 4TB drive, or the M3 MAX mbp with 128GB RAM and 2TB drive? Thank you
I got the 14" M1 Pro and somewhat disappointed (10/14). Especially export times are worse than Ryzen 7 2000 and 1660ti. I think for editing you just wanna jump to max.
@@Ni3K I have DR studio and ryzen 3700x ,32gb ram and gtx 1080ti and I want to get the MBP 16 m1 pro with 1tb ssd and wonder if this mbp is better than nvec at rendering !?
@@owisun85 M1 Max has two hardware encoder, I think that's the reason why export in h265 is faster than my 2080Ti, M1 Pro has only one hardware encoder afaik.
It would be nice if you would upload the whole project so I can test my computer the same way, to compare it to those in the video. But I doubt that you have this project anymore, after that long.
I figured this would be a great place for a Resolve question: I just recorded a documentary in ProRes using a BlackMagic camera. I wanted to edit in Premiere and Color Grade in Resolve. I tried out using XML, but noticed that the video quality from the XML is FAR worse that when I just import in the original video and color grade it there. For example the grain. On the ProRes, it is just a small unoticable amount. While in the XML you can clearly see a large flickering amount of grain ruining my color grading. Any advice on how I can color grade from Premiere to Resolve and still keep the quality?
You want to take the edit from premiere to resolve? Import the media in resolve first, then when importing the xml timeline, unbox ”automatically import source clips”. Then mark where your media is in the resolve bins
Not sure if this helps but from several other videos on other channels I’ve watched, running clips on the internal is slightly faster. Using an external is really more for keeping your internal from getting full
Thanks a LOT Alex. Great test. I'm with you about the base model for no client by your side. I've got the BASE M1 Macbook Air and it's doing great! Actually It's trashing out my Job's 2013 Mac Pro Maxed Out for a fraction of the cost (not mentioning power consuption).
Can I color grade on my 2020 M1 Mac? Because that’s not a calibrated screen correct? or do I pick another color profile? because when I grade on it It looks good on any apple devices but everywhere else looks either slightly off or really off ??? Anyone
I currently own an 2018 MacBook Pro and when I use Fushion add my colorgrade and throw speed warp it really seems to lag. Upgrading to the m1 max will improve my workflow I hope. Thx for your reviews really help
Hi there ! Thank you for your AMAZING review videos, finally something objective, concise and to the point; this really stand out in comparaison with 99% of the superficial review videos on YT ! Quick question: what was the codec you use for the clip in your test ? Would be sweet if you could add a little overview of the specs and results in the description of your videos for quick look up :) ! Question 2: since I am working 95% of the time with ARRI alexa prores 444 (which is already a pretty optimised codec within davinci) is the extra buck worth it for the M1pro and m1max considering their dedicated prores decode/encode accelerator ? Was wondering if we can really see the difference this extra technology makes when working with prores .........which bring me to my 3rd question: could we have this same test with a Prores 444 clip (have more than enough if you need one) :D And finally, would be great to have your opinion about 32gbRAM vs 64gb, for davinci users
Ok I do not have time to watch your other videos. How about Optical Flow with Speed Warp and Temporal Noise Reduction with at least a three frame reference and enhanced setting. I use these settings a lot on 4 K drone footage. Brings my I-Mac Pro to its knees…
I stuck between imac 2021 m1 and macbook pro m1 pro chip 16 gb ram version. İf i get macbook ı have to get bigger monitor. So its mean more money to pay and ı dont want. İf ı buy an imac 2021 m1 chip will i be happy? I am wedding videographer. I am workng with 4 k sony videos
You can always buy a bigger monitor later for the more powerful M1 Pro Macbook. Plus you'll be portable and the built in screen is better than anything you'll find under $1,200 anyway.
As the hype cycle is slowly fading and after testing a bit, I see that I get more value out of a $1500 Ryzen 9/RTX 3070 laptop with 1TB SSD and 16 Gig RAM. But if your workflow involves Finalcut or ProRes...this isn't even a choice. But if steer clear for m1 imac.... The way it is built it will reach thermal limits faster than even MacBook air. Mac Mini M1 with 16GB RAM is a pretty good option and it has fans in it.
@@BalaKrishna-bq5iz 'But if your workflow involves Finalcut or ProRes...' Could you elaborate quickly on that. I am working 95% of the time with prores 444 and was wondering if going for the M1pro/max is worth the extra, considering their dedicated prores accelerator ? havent seen any test yet to actually not if but HOW MUCh faster the workflow is. I care mostly about playback, not so much about render time. Using most of the time denoiser and film grain, will it make a difference with those effects ?
@@v.l.2819 Yes, considering Apple has dedicated prores accelerators I tend to recommend Macs for anyone else workflow includes prores. And Final Cut isn't available for Windows anyway. But I'm a Davinci Resolve user and I find it decently optimized even on Windows for Prores and Prores HQ. May need to drop down playback quality depending on what you're doing. But no, I haven't tested Prores 444 and lately I'm moving away from even Prores and working with H.265 Sony log footage for which I don't really see spending a $1000-$2000 more adding much real value. I see that money better spent elsewhere. But if editing if primarily your job, may be spending that extra cash could be worth over long term. M1 Macbook air or Mac Mini 16GB is a lot better value if you're going to go Apple route.
Top m1max 32c gpu Should be close to desktop 1080 ti / laptop rtx 3070 after very big optimization of da vinci, right now not cool perfomance, should wait a bit for soft to upgrade, right now it is close to old macbook pro 5500m
Another excellent review, objective analysis of the three models available. It would be interesting a test in which it measures the percentage of cup and gpu in each test (Active Monitor). Usually a tracking more or less complex (example the flight of a seagull) engages the CPU at 400%-500% and the gpu at 60% (on apple m1) It would be interesting to compare m1pro and m1max and m1 base. thanks
I really don't recommend last years model in almost any circumstance. Unless you cannot run a critical application you would end up with a computer that will lose its resale value significantly in a year.
The regular m1 is for basic editing, nothing fancy or crazy. The average consumer who do basic tasks wouldn't be interested in the max or the pro. If you run a business then this year's mac's would make sense.
"Can't imagine what else to throw at it" - sure you can: noise reduction :) We're still a couple of CPU generations from 4K real time noise reduction...
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I was really looking for this kind of video. Thank you so much for creating in-depth analysis on these three models
Thanks man. Excactly what I waited for and why I am happy with my Max order.
Thanks very much
Would have love to see another system added to these test... Base model of the 16'.
The elaboration at the end was well needed and well welcomed,,,
Thanks for the video
The exact comparison video I'm looking for. Thanks for all the effort. Really great video.
Are the clips prores, h265/4?
H264
please do a test with high frame rate footage. 4k 60p 120p
Thanks for the continued coverage of these machines! Extremely helpful!
Denoiser tests would be great
I’ve got the maxed out 14 inch version so would be interesting to see how it compares to the 16 maxed out model
From other tests it seems like your performance will be almost identical. But on the 14 battery life will be a serious concern with the MAX.
I just got the Base M1 Pro 14 inch after owning M1 MB Air since launch, the battery life on the 14 is significantly worse than the M1 while performance isn't night and day better
Are you running the M1 Max on high power mode at all?
Would you grade on these monitors or are they unsatisfactory and you still need an external?
Really appreciate your hard work on these tests. Are you planning any tests in the Fusion tab?
I ended up going with the 14" M1 Pro base model - by the time you had a 16GB RAM/512 SSD it was almost the same cost as the M1 models with those added...
Nice video... I am not an editor or anything like that. I just have a few GoPro videos I like to edit. Said that, I was just about to ask what sense it makes for the need of real time playback when adding effects? I would think that you edit your video first, see how it looks like (from an edit perspective) and then add your effects. Since you already know how the video "looks like", you would not need real time playback. HOWEVER, at the end, you prefect explain why you would need real time playback... when sitting there with a client. Makes sense. Thanks.
ALEX, Thank u for your courses, I have learned a lot. However, my 2018 mbp is slow, so I want another long term MacBook Pro. I have NVME ext storage.
To cut down render times and edit in real time from original BRAW, should I get the M3 MAX mbp with 64GB RAM and 4TB drive, or the M3 MAX mbp with 128GB RAM and 2TB drive? Thank you
Thanks for the real world test. Exactly what I was looking for.
It would help judging the result if you added the exact config of the systems (how many CPU and GPU cores).
Love your videos and your insights!!
What is i do a lot tracking and masking effects?
How much ram do you recommend for 16 inch M1 Max and what size SSD would you go for?
I got the 14" M1 Pro and somewhat disappointed (10/14). Especially export times are worse than Ryzen 7 2000 and 1660ti. I think for editing you just wanna jump to max.
I have the 24 core GPU 14“ and export time is twice as fast as my 2080Ti & 3950X?
@@Ni3K 24 gpu core ? And you reader faster than with the rtx 2080ti in DR studio ?
@@owisun85 Yes, export in h265 is double the frame rate. GH5 HLG 10bit 4K video: 70FPS 2080Ti vs. 140FPS with the Macbook. NVENC is maxed out.
@@Ni3K I have DR studio and ryzen 3700x ,32gb ram and gtx 1080ti and I want to get the MBP 16 m1 pro with 1tb ssd and wonder if this mbp is better than nvec at rendering !?
@@owisun85 M1 Max has two hardware encoder, I think that's the reason why export in h265 is faster than my 2080Ti, M1 Pro has only one hardware encoder afaik.
This was excellent THANK YOU
thx a lot for this one 👍
Have u got these tests anywhere to download
It would be nice if you would upload the whole project so I can test my computer the same way, to compare it to those in the video. But I doubt that you have this project anymore, after that long.
Great work, thank u. Just wanred to ask if u used the full performance option in the 16 inch MacBook pro max. If not, will be there a big difference?
Did he mention what codec the footage was?
I figured this would be a great place for a Resolve question:
I just recorded a documentary in ProRes using a BlackMagic camera. I wanted to edit in Premiere and Color Grade in Resolve. I tried out using XML, but noticed that the video quality from the XML is FAR worse that when I just import in the original video and color grade it there.
For example the grain. On the ProRes, it is just a small unoticable amount. While in the XML you can clearly see a large flickering amount of grain ruining my color grading. Any advice on how I can color grade from Premiere to Resolve and still keep the quality?
You want to take the edit from premiere to resolve? Import the media in resolve first, then when importing the xml timeline, unbox ”automatically import source clips”. Then mark where your media is in the resolve bins
Are there clips running on the internal drive or external drive?
Not sure if this helps but from several other videos on other channels I’ve watched, running clips on the internal is slightly faster. Using an external is really more for keeping your internal from getting full
Yes please do a fusion test
Thanks a LOT Alex. Great test. I'm with you about the base model for no client by your side. I've got the BASE M1 Macbook Air and it's doing great! Actually It's trashing out my Job's 2013 Mac Pro Maxed Out for a fraction of the cost (not mentioning power consuption).
Can I color grade on my 2020 M1 Mac? Because that’s not a calibrated screen correct? or do I pick another color profile? because when I grade on it It looks good on any apple devices but everywhere else looks either slightly off or really off ??? Anyone
I currently own an 2018 MacBook Pro and when I use Fushion add my colorgrade and throw speed warp it really seems to lag. Upgrading to the m1 max will improve my workflow I hope. Thx for your reviews really help
What about the ability to handle a second screen ? Because, obviously, if you are in color grading you need a second screen.
Hi there ! Thank you for your AMAZING review videos, finally something objective, concise and to the point; this really stand out in comparaison with 99% of the superficial review videos on YT !
Quick question: what was the codec you use for the clip in your test ? Would be sweet if you could add a little overview of the specs and results in the description of your videos for quick look up :) !
Question 2: since I am working 95% of the time with ARRI alexa prores 444 (which is already a pretty optimised codec within davinci) is the extra buck worth it for the M1pro and m1max considering their dedicated prores decode/encode accelerator ? Was wondering if we can really see the difference this extra technology makes when working with prores
.........which bring me to my 3rd question: could we have this same test with a Prores 444 clip (have more than enough if you need one) :D
And finally, would be great to have your opinion about 32gbRAM vs 64gb, for davinci users
Noise Reduction playback?
In my opinion the 2020 M1 is just fine and by far good enough for anything RUclips, Doc, or Company films.
Ok I do not have time to watch your other videos. How about Optical Flow with Speed Warp and Temporal Noise Reduction with at least a three frame reference and enhanced setting. I use these settings a lot on 4 K drone footage. Brings my I-Mac Pro to its knees…
This was exactly the video I was looking for! Do you think the 16" M1 Max with 32gb of RAM is enough for extensive color grading?
Yes!
That's all i need to know, thanks!
I stuck between imac 2021 m1 and macbook pro m1 pro chip 16 gb ram version. İf i get macbook ı have to get bigger monitor. So its mean more money to pay and ı dont want. İf ı buy an imac 2021 m1 chip will i be happy? I am wedding videographer. I am workng with 4 k sony videos
You can always buy a bigger monitor later for the more powerful M1 Pro Macbook. Plus you'll be portable and the built in screen is better than anything you'll find under $1,200 anyway.
As the hype cycle is slowly fading and after testing a bit, I see that I get more value out of a $1500 Ryzen 9/RTX 3070 laptop with 1TB SSD and 16 Gig RAM. But if your workflow involves Finalcut or ProRes...this isn't even a choice. But if steer clear for m1 imac.... The way it is built it will reach thermal limits faster than even MacBook air. Mac Mini M1 with 16GB RAM is a pretty good option and it has fans in it.
Now, do the tests on battery.
@@BalaKrishna-bq5iz 'But if your workflow involves Finalcut or ProRes...' Could you elaborate quickly on that. I am working 95% of the time with prores 444 and was wondering if going for the M1pro/max is worth the extra, considering their dedicated prores accelerator ? havent seen any test yet to actually not if but HOW MUCh faster the workflow is. I care mostly about playback, not so much about render time. Using most of the time denoiser and film grain, will it make a difference with those effects ?
@@v.l.2819 Yes, considering Apple has dedicated prores accelerators I tend to recommend Macs for anyone else workflow includes prores. And Final Cut isn't available for Windows anyway.
But I'm a Davinci Resolve user and I find it decently optimized even on Windows for Prores and Prores HQ. May need to drop down playback quality depending on what you're doing. But no, I haven't tested Prores 444 and lately I'm moving away from even Prores and working with H.265 Sony log footage for which I don't really see spending a $1000-$2000 more adding much real value. I see that money better spent elsewhere. But if editing if primarily your job, may be spending that extra cash could be worth over long term. M1 Macbook air or Mac Mini 16GB is a lot better value if you're going to go Apple route.
Awesome & Thanks :)
What is the pc equivalent of these? If you are a daVinci user post your results
Should be 1080 ti / rtx 3070 after very big optimization of da vinci, right now not cool perfomance, should wait a bit for soft to upgrade
Top m1max 32c gpu Should be close to desktop 1080 ti / laptop rtx 3070 after very big optimization of da vinci, right now not cool perfomance, should wait a bit for soft to upgrade, right now it is close to old macbook pro 5500m
Another excellent review, objective analysis of the three models available.
It would be interesting a test in which it measures the percentage of cup and gpu in each test (Active Monitor).
Usually a tracking more or less complex (example the flight of a seagull) engages the CPU at 400%-500% and the gpu at 60% (on apple m1)
It would be interesting to compare m1pro and m1max and m1 base.
thanks
NR Test would have been great
We published a dedicated video about noise reduction on the new macs. It's the one uploaded right before this one.
Test must use audio design to be completed
I really don't recommend last years model in almost any circumstance. Unless you cannot run a critical application you would end up with a computer that will lose its resale value significantly in a year.
Unless you get a used model someone traded in for a new, just to get started.
The regular m1 is for basic editing, nothing fancy or crazy. The average consumer who do basic tasks wouldn't be interested in the max or the pro. If you run a business then this year's mac's would make sense.
"Can't imagine what else to throw at it" - sure you can: noise reduction :)
We're still a couple of CPU generations from 4K real time noise reduction...
We created a dedicated video for noise reduction on the new macs. It's the one we uploaded right before this one.
@@LearnColorGrading can you do the noise reduction and speed warp test with optimization and tell some new tricks about optimising the playback
This is the video that will uploaded today.