Literally the only test that we need to see instead of boring rendering time comparison and spec sheet idiocy. Grab a coffee when its rendering. Doent matter whether it takes 10 mins or 16 mins. Only playback and smooth functioning matters. Kudos for the video mate
This was an *excellent* comparison of the two machines, and a great example of how these kind of reviews of video editing performance should be done - i.e. actually testing the impact of adding successive layers of complexity, which is a much more realistic test than the typical "stabilize a 1 minute clip in FCP" or "export my video to H.264 for RUclips" that most "reviewers" tend to do....Max Tech The conclusion that there are no significant differences between M1 and M3 Max for editing in Davinci Resolve was really interesting and actually a little bit unexpected, although I've seen quite a few YT video recently that have arrived at the same conclusion. It's definitely removed some of the FOMO I've had about the benefit of upgrading my own M1 Max (MBP 14 with 24-core GPU) On top of this, I really liked the presentation style and content - hard to believe this channel only has 17K subscribers - so +1 subscribed!
I needed a laptop coming from a 2012 dell xps. I recently picked up a refurbished 14” MacBook M1 Max 64tb / 4tb drive for 2200$ + taxes. Runs great, doing mostly photoshop for now but would like to do some videos soon. Seems not getting close to the 64gb ram but also noticing it’s not using starch disks like my studio unit. Pretty much 1/2 off and only 2 years old. I feel good about it. I think it will have a 10 year life on it. 4k videos will be the standard on smart phones for many years to come. How Apple 🍎 doesn’t brick it with obsolescence. M chips are new so I don’t think so?!?
Some tasks might perform equally and some tasks can have a big difference. M3 ability to add more Ram together with better cpu & gpu will definitely give better results in big projects. If you are testing a couple particular effects in Davinci you might not see the big difference. But if you are coding for example and need lots of Ram for your Docker project then that will make a big difference. Or if you are doing heavy noise reduction on a longer video the M3 should give 40% more frames than the M1 which is related to the lower amount of L2 cache on the M1.
this was great! i was in the same boat as you. wanting the m3 max in black to replace my m1 max, but this gave me hope. May wait for the M5 in a couple years and see
Would be interesting to see if a similar specced M1,2,3 Pro would fall behind or would do similar. Saving almost 30% is a big saving. And it shows, opposite to other channels; its mainly the colour difference, or to be precise in your usecase it doesn't benefit from the optimizations in the apple silicon. Even on the stressing effects where you could have assume to have benefits from a more modern/faster silicon it doesn't pay off.
I have the 14 inch M1 Max with the same spec as the 16 inch in this vid. I've found that it's basically flawless with everything except for motion graphics (fusion), motion blur, denoising, etc... The fans kick in HARD. With proxies its a pretty smooth workflow. If i were to buy it again I'd probably opt for more storage space since the cache file sizes are HUGE! I've never maxed out the RAM or the CPU with the stuff I edit, the GPU is basically at 100% every time I edit lol
I feel like the m3 has it's advantages, but windows is just catching up to Apple in their arm based processors and developers are going to make sure apps like Davinci work perfectly on as many setups as possible... So even if m3 has the edge, we'll only see it in brute force scenarios because nothing is going to be optimized for it specifically. The bigger selling point I heard when shopping around last winter was efficiency and heat generation between the m1, m2, and m3 processors. This is ultimately why I bought the m3, core efficiency leads to less heat, less heat leads to longer life span. I killed 3 different generations of iMacs as a video editor before switching the windows so I could build my own rigs. My MBP m3 Max 14" is the first higher end grade Mac I've had in my kit for a long time, and so far I've been very pleased. Time will tell if it can hold up for longer than my previous iMacs ;)
So far it's great! I've been using it for about a month now. Thunderbolt is super fast! It overheated and failed once but I had it sitting on a couch so it probably wasn't ventilated very well. I recommend it based on my experience so far. Obviously you also have to purchase an M.2 NVMe SSD to put in it. I bought a WAY too good Crucial T700 SSD (goes like 12,500 mb/s) to put in it but it's not being used to its full ability in the Acasis enclosure (supposedly goes 3,500 mb/s), but I wanted that SSD in case I wanted to put it in a new PC later. A slower SSD in the Acasis would be fine. Something around 3,500 mb/s to match the enclosure speed :D
@@ThomasStraiton Oh man didn't realize that drive is a Gen5 NVME blazing fast lol. Was thinking of upgrading my 10gbps ugreen. I have a gen 3 drive which goes up to 3,600 MB/s.
So the Studio version of Davinci Resolve it's just the professional version of the software. You have to pay I think it's $300 for it. But it's only a one time purchase rather than endless subscription, so in my opinion it's totally worth it because it comes with many additional things like effects and the faster speeds. The Studio version has the GPU h264 accelerator so it will use your GPU to edit faster with h264 codec. I haven't tested to compare how much faster the Studio actually is than the Free version yet, but it's supposedly faster.
I have m3 max 16 cpu 40 gpu . Biggest difference from M1 series is GPU speed so if you have apps that uses GPU, then you will get a huge increase in speeds. Resolve free is not GPU accelerated so you need the Studio version to get the best performance. Blender cycles is really fast on GPU . M1max to m3 max all have the same media encoders and decoders so pure encoding would be the same. The black is a fingerprint magnet . Space grey or silver is better imo. Resolve Studio effects and filters that are NOT GPU accelerated performs really slow.
My 10yr old pc is, well…a dinosaur. Seriously considering jumping to MacBook Pro for my photo/video editing. Yes, can save big $$$ buying a refurbished M1, BUT I have two major concerns: An M1 would be 2-3 years closer to when Apple would stop offering OS upgrades. AND purchasing a refurbished unit, you couldn’t purchase AppleCare+. (I swear by the Applecare+ after breaking not one, but two Ipad pros in less than three weeks). Gotta pay to play.
this was the best video and the best comparison on whole youtube. Davinci is the only one performance heavy operation i am doing on my MAC M1 PRO (base model with 8cores 16gb). I guess uprgrading to M1 MAX will be huge and there is no point to buy M3 MAX. What about future proofing?? Lets say you will have budget 4000. what do you rather get? M1 MAX and new monitor or M3 MAX. but pretend that you not be able to buy new machine for 5 years. Do you know what i mean?
Thanks for commenting! If my budget was $4000 dollars I would STILL just stick with the M1 Max and save up your cash for down the line when a computer comes out that actually performs better. I'll probably either save my cash or upgrade the gpu on my PC to see if it can perform better than the M1 Max! You can always sell your M1 Max if something better does come out. Like you said, I had thought about rationalizing the M3 Max for the sake of future-proofing but in terms of video editing alone I don't think it's REALLY future proofing. Cheers!
The M3 max is more balanced in general if you use it in other software programs. But the M1 is powerful either way its wider margin in regards with bandwidth. Despite being three years old, it is still a beast
When doing videos like this, be sure to specify all project settings. Especially when working with raw files. You did not even say what footage is shot eith and in which codec and compression. Cheers
Literally the only test that we need to see instead of boring rendering time comparison and spec sheet idiocy. Grab a coffee when its rendering. Doent matter whether it takes 10 mins or 16 mins. Only playback and smooth functioning matters. Kudos for the video mate
Agree
For my creative process, fast rendering absolutely is essential. I would have liked to see that in this video.
best review i've seen, no one fucking cares about render times, we care about the editing experience, laggyness, that type of things. Thanks dude
Glad I could help!😁
Great review! The M1 Max was so overpowered for video editing that newer iterations just don't add a lot of extra value.
Thanks for showing the playback during editing!
Thank you for the honest testings on those machines.
You bet!
Hey Man, thanks for the review. This is the most honest review on youtube that i came across.
Excellent Vid! Thanks!
I don't know anything about tech, but bang on the like button
Keep it up, Bro ;)
Very helpful video!!!
This was an *excellent* comparison of the two machines, and a great example of how these kind of reviews of video editing performance should be done - i.e. actually testing the impact of adding successive layers of complexity, which is a much more realistic test than the typical "stabilize a 1 minute clip in FCP" or "export my video to H.264 for RUclips" that most "reviewers" tend to do....Max Tech
The conclusion that there are no significant differences between M1 and M3 Max for editing in Davinci Resolve was really interesting and actually a little bit unexpected, although I've seen quite a few YT video recently that have arrived at the same conclusion. It's definitely removed some of the FOMO I've had about the benefit of upgrading my own M1 Max (MBP 14 with 24-core GPU)
On top of this, I really liked the presentation style and content - hard to believe this channel only has 17K subscribers - so +1 subscribed!
Thanks for watching and for such an in-depth comment!
I needed a laptop coming from a 2012 dell xps. I recently picked up a refurbished 14” MacBook M1 Max 64tb / 4tb drive for 2200$ + taxes.
Runs great, doing mostly photoshop for now but would like to do some videos soon.
Seems not getting close to the 64gb ram but also noticing it’s not using starch
disks like my studio unit.
Pretty much 1/2 off and only 2 years old. I feel good about it. I think it will have a 10 year life on it. 4k videos will be
the standard on smart phones for many years to come. How Apple 🍎 doesn’t brick it with obsolescence. M chips are new so I don’t think so?!?
Amazing video!
Just traded my pc for an m1 max macbook pro 16. Nice to know that it performs same as the m3 max.
Nice video, we need more of these kind of M1 Max vs M3 Max videos with real world test.
Some tasks might perform equally and some tasks can have a big difference. M3 ability to add more Ram together with better cpu & gpu will definitely give better results in big projects. If you are testing a couple particular effects in Davinci you might not see the big difference. But if you are coding for example and need lots of Ram for your Docker project then that will make a big difference. Or if you are doing heavy noise reduction on a longer video the M3 should give 40% more frames than the M1 which is related to the lower amount of L2 cache on the M1.
Wish you could have done some h.265 footage.
You just saved me a lot of money :)
I’m so glad!!
this was great! i was in the same boat as you. wanting the m3 max in black to replace my m1 max, but this gave me hope. May wait for the M5 in a couple years and see
For sure!
What sbout m4max?
Would be interesting to see if a similar specced M1,2,3 Pro would fall behind or would do similar. Saving almost 30% is a big saving. And it shows, opposite to other channels; its mainly the colour difference, or to be precise in your usecase it doesn't benefit from the optimizations in the apple silicon. Even on the stressing effects where you could have assume to have benefits from a more modern/faster silicon it doesn't pay off.
Indeed!
I have the 14 inch M1 Max with the same spec as the 16 inch in this vid. I've found that it's basically flawless with everything except for motion graphics (fusion), motion blur, denoising, etc... The fans kick in HARD. With proxies its a pretty smooth workflow. If i were to buy it again I'd probably opt for more storage space since the cache file sizes are HUGE!
I've never maxed out the RAM or the CPU with the stuff I edit, the GPU is basically at 100% every time I edit lol
Thanks for adding to the pool of knowledge!
Why not just edit to external?
Do the fans get really very loud?
M1 Max was ahead of its time they say
nice sharing! can't agree more
I feel like the m3 has it's advantages, but windows is just catching up to Apple in their arm based processors and developers are going to make sure apps like Davinci work perfectly on as many setups as possible... So even if m3 has the edge, we'll only see it in brute force scenarios because nothing is going to be optimized for it specifically. The bigger selling point I heard when shopping around last winter was efficiency and heat generation between the m1, m2, and m3 processors. This is ultimately why I bought the m3, core efficiency leads to less heat, less heat leads to longer life span. I killed 3 different generations of iMacs as a video editor before switching the windows so I could build my own rigs. My MBP m3 Max 14" is the first higher end grade Mac I've had in my kit for a long time, and so far I've been very pleased. Time will tell if it can hold up for longer than my previous iMacs ;)
Yeah keep us updated on that!
Perfect! 😊 👏 👍
Great video! M1 Max is still goated, prob gonna wait to upgrade until M4-M5 or unless some crazy ai optimization features get announced
I did not expect this. Guess I'll take care of my M1 max a bit more
For sure! Cherish that beautiful piece of machinery!
How is that ACASIS TB4 enclosure? is it reliable?
So far it's great! I've been using it for about a month now. Thunderbolt is super fast! It overheated and failed once but I had it sitting on a couch so it probably wasn't ventilated very well. I recommend it based on my experience so far. Obviously you also have to purchase an M.2 NVMe SSD to put in it. I bought a WAY too good Crucial T700 SSD (goes like 12,500 mb/s) to put in it but it's not being used to its full ability in the Acasis enclosure (supposedly goes 3,500 mb/s), but I wanted that SSD in case I wanted to put it in a new PC later. A slower SSD in the Acasis would be fine. Something around 3,500 mb/s to match the enclosure speed :D
@@ThomasStraiton Oh man didn't realize that drive is a Gen5 NVME blazing fast lol.
Was thinking of upgrading my 10gbps ugreen. I have a gen 3 drive which goes up to 3,600 MB/s.
Yeah it seems like you would gain a lot of speed 🤔 it’ll allow you to use your SSD to its full capacity
That’s amazing. You didn’t wanna spend an extra $900 for the black shiny new feeling alone??? Rats. 😂
Glad the less expensive one worked just as good!
My custom built PC died yesterday, while working on homework for my digital media class. THATS DANDY. Found a refurbished M1 Max for 1800.
Did you get it
@@wf2784I didn’t. Chickened out. I’m back on the market. Looking again
watching on my m3 max 16in
Hey brother you said studio version decode H264 batter then the Free version
What are the difference between them ? Please help me out
So the Studio version of Davinci Resolve it's just the professional version of the software. You have to pay I think it's $300 for it. But it's only a one time purchase rather than endless subscription, so in my opinion it's totally worth it because it comes with many additional things like effects and the faster speeds. The Studio version has the GPU h264 accelerator so it will use your GPU to edit faster with h264 codec. I haven't tested to compare how much faster the Studio actually is than the Free version yet, but it's supposedly faster.
Battery mode (for the M3 Max) vs Plugged in (for the M1 Max) is not a fair test . Was the M3 on performance mode for the battery mode ?
They were both plugged in for every single test except for the battery life test, in which I had them set to auto performance.
I have m3 max 16 cpu 40 gpu . Biggest difference from M1 series is GPU speed so if you have apps that uses GPU, then you will get a huge increase in speeds. Resolve free is not GPU accelerated so you need the Studio version to get the best performance. Blender cycles is really fast on GPU . M1max to m3 max all have the same media encoders and decoders so pure encoding would be the same. The black is a fingerprint magnet . Space grey or silver is better imo.
Resolve Studio effects and filters that are NOT GPU accelerated performs really slow.
My 10yr old pc is, well…a dinosaur. Seriously considering jumping to MacBook Pro for my photo/video editing. Yes, can save big $$$ buying a refurbished M1, BUT I have two major concerns: An M1 would be 2-3 years closer to when Apple would stop offering OS upgrades. AND purchasing a refurbished unit, you couldn’t purchase AppleCare+. (I swear by the Applecare+ after breaking not one, but two Ipad pros in less than three weeks). Gotta pay to play.
are you using the binned m3 max? 48 or 96gb ram?
36gb of RAM! The RAM never maxed out on either laptop it was always the GPU.
Is there a binned m3 max?
this was the best video and the best comparison on whole youtube. Davinci is the only one performance heavy operation i am doing on my MAC M1 PRO (base model with 8cores 16gb). I guess uprgrading to M1 MAX will be huge and there is no point to buy M3 MAX. What about future proofing?? Lets say you will have budget 4000. what do you rather get? M1 MAX and new monitor or M3 MAX. but pretend that you not be able to buy new machine for 5 years. Do you know what i mean?
Thanks for commenting! If my budget was $4000 dollars I would STILL just stick with the M1 Max and save up your cash for down the line when a computer comes out that actually performs better. I'll probably either save my cash or upgrade the gpu on my PC to see if it can perform better than the M1 Max! You can always sell your M1 Max if something better does come out. Like you said, I had thought about rationalizing the M3 Max for the sake of future-proofing but in terms of video editing alone I don't think it's REALLY future proofing. Cheers!
The M3 max is more balanced in general if you use it in other software programs. But the M1 is powerful either way its wider margin in regards with bandwidth. Despite being three years old, it is still a beast
I wonder how it would perform in 2 hour long edits. Also3 max was it 40 or 32 gpu?
I really liked the Ben 10 video which you were waiting can I have a link to that video , I am huge Ben 10 ben
Does fast ssd affect caching speed?
Yes I think SSD affects caching speed. But I didn’t notice a difference between these two laptops specifically, or the external drive I used.
Which ‘core’ configuration were these? 12/18/16? 14/30/16? 16/40/16?
Do m1 max vs m4 max if youll have a chance please, no cine bench specs, just real video pls
this is cool, i want more videos of you jus talking lol
Can you make a cover of „Live and Learn“ and of „City Escape“ from Sonic Adventure 2 please?
🎸🎶🙏🦔
When doing videos like this, be sure to specify all project settings. Especially when working with raw files. You did not even say what footage is shot eith and in which codec and compression. Cheers
Actually if you go to 0:47 you’ll see that I talk about the camera, resolution, and codec I used 😉😉
@@ThomasStraiton sorry missed it
Still have intel😬 i should trade up for an M1
That’s what I just upgraded from! A 2015 one!
Fasvimating. Would like to see export speed comparison. _Rowby.
Can You Do The Hot Wheels Battle Force 5 Theme Cover?
I hadn't heard that before! Added to my list!
I WILL NEVER be locked up again
What day is your birthday?
Remember my request? PLEASE write a note
It's on my to do list! :D
@@ThomasStraiton Bowling for Soup or Brain Causey? Or is it a mashup of both?
😮
While I enjoy your melodious voice, LETS GET BACK TO SONG COVERS!!