Thanks for the great Video Kyle! We knew you'd find some unexpected ways to use it. Great to get another perspective. For people watching, we just wanted to provide a couple quick updates: - We are now offering each component individually which like Kyle mentioned opens a lot of doors for custom setups. - We also have a 2x3" Sidewinder option available now. - The pulleys are made from 304 stainless steel.
@@dwv1900 hey! We really appreciate the early support. We have been packing parts up all weekend. Preorder 2 should start shipping this coming week! The production parts are looking great. The wait is almost over
I've been waiting YEARS for a product like this, I'm waiting for a few more reviews before I pull the trigger, but it seems to be the solution for a home gym cable system.
Awesome! It is an extremely versatile product. Dialed Motion was at HomeGymCon last weekend and I had a chance to meet them in real life. Very kind and humble guys.
Ordered dual Sidewinder and the additional parts to turn that into dual Ibex with the belt squat attachment on the 2nd…super stoked to implement them in my studio gym.
Thanks Kyle for this insightful review and really liked the idea of flipping the lat pull down as a belt squat tool! Also sorry for all the questions, but thankful for answering them! I specially am excited about this as space was the ultimate challenge and limitation for a home gym. When I committed to a Omni half rack setup I knew I couldn’t add a cable tower or lat pulldown because of the space, this is definitely will be a useful tool for my space.
Love how you utilized the lever arm with the pulley system. Lever arms alone does not give you a true start to end range of motion resistance! I totally agree that this system is expensive and we do need it for a 2x2 rack!
Glad we agree on the price point being an issue. And it's not a "I don't wanna pay for it" thing.. but Bells Of Steal plate loaded cable tower is (CAD)$400... The sidewinder is $661.. Why would I pay $261 more for something that looks closer to those Amazon's pulleys than it does a proper functional trainer? Two sidewinders would cost $1322.. Treadmill factory here in Canada sells the Fit505 Smith Machine/Rack/Functional Trainer combo for $1400... BOS sells a whole two side functional trainer for less than that. Respectfully, I don't get it. It's a product that would appeal to a budget tight "let me make it work" audience at a price point they can get a superior product for.
Ah wish I could just get that bells of steel tower in Aus. This pulley system also changes to local currency with a bad conversion rate when you try to check out.
When you consider how much room a lat pulldown rack attachment from bells rep or titan takes up and the fact that they are close to 500-600 i dont think the price is reqlly that crazy. I am planning to get this as a space saver and will probably end up setting it up similar to how you have it. Also wth is that a freestanding upright or you have it connected to the wall??? 😂😂
Good review and interesting product if money was not object and I had a different rack. But considering the cost, I cannot see why I would buy this instead of the BOS Plate Loaded Cable Tower. I can't see paying the same amount (if the BOS is upgraded with aluminum pulleys). I also have the BOS consumer rack (2.3") so it wouldn't fit.
This! I'm better off buying a Titan Cable machine. It's kind of sad though because these were DIY projects turned to steal. You think they make them as affordable as they can.
They are as affordable as they can be. Quality components are cheap, and cheap components aren't high quality. Dialed Motion tries to strike the right balance but it's not affordable for everyone.
@toddcbrown if SPACE was the biggest challenge- you had a 4 upright rack and couldn’t add any other major pieces then this MIGHT then be worth it. It’s more ideal than the Beyond Power Voltra I.
@KaizenDIYGym I kinda went down the rabbit hole of these kinds of trolley systems after this. Now I'm not sure what I want. I have a 3x3 simple 4 post rack. I need to figure what will fit my needs best while still keeping the rack mostly usable
Do you think this product is user friendly enough for the average person? It looks like there is kind of a learning curve. Would i be better off just getting a regular pulley system? I'm looking to set up a small gym at my work facility. We have a 26'x18.5' area to work with. I want to be as space efficient as possible while providing enough room and equipment for 2-3 people to work out at a time. Money isn't an issue
If you're considering this as an alternative to a standalone lat pulldown and low row tower, I would say it is easier to set up and only mildly more complicated to use, but way more versatile.
I see you did a speed pin and the actual hex bolt on the lat pulldown arm. Is it secure enough if you did two speed pins? I ordered the belt squat attachment, but now I’m considering not getting it if it’s easy to swap the pull down attachment with speed pins. Thanks!!
@@KaizenDIYGym that makes sense!! Thanks man. I’m think I’m gonna do a dedicated setup for mine as well. I’m intending to replace my BoS plate loaded cable tower with one of these.
Great video! If I already have a 4-post rack (Rogue RML-3), can you recommend a cost-effective option for a separate set of 2 uprights for a similar setup to your Omni uprights? Or would these work on just a pair of Omni uprights that I can purchase from REP separately?
I have a rhino dropped into a 4 post 30" rack. will the back throlleys get in the way of rhino handles? also if I decide to keep the rear post as plate storage, could I add two more uprights in between the rack to add throlleys to them so I can keep using back uprights for plate storage??? OR are the cables design for a specific rack lenght like 24inck, 30inch etc....??? do you think that will be a good idea? I already have a selectorized separate FT and also a seperate selectorized lat pull down, however I would like to ether sell the FT or lat pull down to conbine it in rhino rack to make some space for a sledtred. I just dont know if I would like going from selectorized to loading plates:(
great review; I'm looking to add functional trainer/lat pulldown capabilities to my Rogue ML 490 and I came across Dialed Motion amongst other equipment manufacturers. I like the versatility of Dialed Motion's retractable cable system. How durable is the reel mechanism and the locking/connection interface?
It seems pretty damn solid. If you haven't already, check out the review by @glucksgym where he disassembled the cable retractor and analyzed the components.
Sadly, for this product, everyone that ever uses a plate loaded FT will become tired of plate loading. Everyone will want a selectorized and if they continue lifting they will upgrade to selectorized so I'm confused why this company only has plate loading.
I have a 30 inch four post rack with a rhino in it and would like to know if the throlleys in the rear post will interfere with the rhino? Iam thinking about selling my standalone inspire FT and add dialed motion to my exixting rack with the rhino in it.
If you’re planning on putting 45’s or bumpers on the weight horn, they need to clear the wall. That’s the only clearance issue you need to worry about.
@@KaizenDIYGym thinking it'll be close but should work 8" extension and the stronger and the gap plus an inch of upright to the middle. half of a typical 45" is about 8.5", at least my bumpers are.
Hello Kyle, i'm from Holland and I have a question about your wooden prototype version. ruclips.net/user/shortsU0yVM_3Mu68 I was hoping you would make a video about it, and I will tell you why. I build a wooden power rack which is standing outside. The commercial systems all are 'permanent' systems, and with rain etc. I can't leave it on after working out. That's why I'm looking for a system that is easily removed, like your wooden version. I don't think you will finish that project, although I hope you do, so hopefully you are willing to provide me enough information about so I can try to build two of them myself. Thanks and advanced and keep up creating your amazing content!
Thanks for the great Video Kyle! We knew you'd find some unexpected ways to use it. Great to get another perspective.
For people watching, we just wanted to provide a couple quick updates:
- We are now offering each component individually which like Kyle mentioned opens a lot of doors for custom setups.
- We also have a 2x3" Sidewinder option available now.
- The pulleys are made from 304 stainless steel.
Thanks for adding those updates! I probably should have double checked with you on some of the details.
Any updates on when those of us who ordered in November should expect delivery?
@@dwv1900 hey! We really appreciate the early support. We have been packing parts up all weekend. Preorder 2 should start shipping this coming week! The production parts are looking great. The wait is almost over
The products both show up as sold out. Is there a way to be put on a waiting list or order in advance to get it sent to me?
I've been waiting YEARS for a product like this, I'm waiting for a few more reviews before I pull the trigger, but it seems to be the solution for a home gym cable system.
Awesome! It is an extremely versatile product. Dialed Motion was at HomeGymCon last weekend and I had a chance to meet them in real life. Very kind and humble guys.
Ordered dual Sidewinder and the additional parts to turn that into dual Ibex with the belt squat attachment on the 2nd…super stoked to implement them in my studio gym.
Awesome! You are going to love it!
Great review, Kyle! And thanks for trying it out with a single 45 on just the one side. It looked super smooth!
Thanks for the question. I wouldn’t have thought to cover it otherwise.
Really excited bout this thing and this video answered every question I had. Thank you for making this
Thanks Kyle for this insightful review and really liked the idea of flipping the lat pull down as a belt squat tool! Also sorry for all the questions, but thankful for answering them!
I specially am excited about this as space was the ultimate challenge and limitation for a home gym. When I committed to a Omni half rack setup I knew I couldn’t add a cable tower or lat pulldown because of the space, this is definitely will be a useful tool for my space.
Awesome, thanks for all the great questions. It is helpful to hear and consider other perspectives.
Love how you utilized the lever arm with the pulley system. Lever arms alone does not give you a true start to end range of motion resistance! I totally agree that this system is expensive and we do need it for a 2x2 rack!
Glad we agree on the price point being an issue. And it's not a "I don't wanna pay for it" thing.. but Bells Of Steal plate loaded cable tower is (CAD)$400... The sidewinder is $661.. Why would I pay $261 more for something that looks closer to those Amazon's pulleys than it does a proper functional trainer? Two sidewinders would cost $1322.. Treadmill factory here in Canada sells the Fit505 Smith Machine/Rack/Functional Trainer combo for $1400... BOS sells a whole two side functional trainer for less than that.
Respectfully, I don't get it. It's a product that would appeal to a budget tight "let me make it work" audience at a price point they can get a superior product for.
I assume the production costs must still be fairly high given its new?
Totally agree. I'm also in Canada. Seems like a price gouge to me. I think their excuse is that it's US made and labour costs are $$.
Ah wish I could just get that bells of steel tower in Aus.
This pulley system also changes to local currency with a bad conversion rate when you try to check out.
When you consider how much room a lat pulldown rack attachment from bells rep or titan takes up and the fact that they are close to 500-600 i dont think the price is reqlly that crazy. I am planning to get this as a space saver and will probably end up setting it up similar to how you have it.
Also wth is that a freestanding upright or you have it connected to the wall??? 😂😂
Haha, I have the uprights connected to the rafters up top. It’s pretty secure.
Good review and interesting product if money was not object and I had a different rack. But considering the cost, I cannot see why I would buy this instead of the BOS Plate Loaded Cable Tower. I can't see paying the same amount (if the BOS is upgraded with aluminum pulleys). I also have the BOS consumer rack (2.3") so it wouldn't fit.
This! I'm better off buying a Titan Cable machine. It's kind of sad though because these were DIY projects turned to steal. You think they make them as affordable as they can.
They are as affordable as they can be. Quality components are cheap, and cheap components aren't high quality. Dialed Motion tries to strike the right balance but it's not affordable for everyone.
I love my BOS cable tower. Both systems have their pros and cons.
@toddcbrown if SPACE was the biggest challenge- you had a 4 upright rack and couldn’t add any other major pieces then this MIGHT then be worth it. It’s more ideal than the Beyond Power Voltra I.
Thinking about doing a similar set up. How do you have your uprights secured?
Super slick!! Might have to save up for a setup.
It is amazingly versatile with a small footprint!
@KaizenDIYGym I kinda went down the rabbit hole of these kinds of trolley systems after this. Now I'm not sure what I want. I have a 3x3 simple 4 post rack. I need to figure what will fit my needs best while still keeping the rack mostly usable
Do you think this product is user friendly enough for the average person? It looks like there is kind of a learning curve. Would i be better off just getting a regular pulley system? I'm looking to set up a small gym at my work facility. We have a 26'x18.5' area to work with. I want to be as space efficient as possible while providing enough room and equipment for 2-3 people to work out at a time. Money isn't an issue
I’ve peppered Dialed Motion over the year with questions and this very much seems to be a solid item that would be friendly to any level of user
If you're considering this as an alternative to a standalone lat pulldown and low row tower, I would say it is easier to set up and only mildly more complicated to use, but way more versatile.
How it is loud? Can I train with that while my family sleeps in another room?
I see you did a speed pin and the actual hex bolt on the lat pulldown arm.
Is it secure enough if you did two speed pins?
I ordered the belt squat attachment, but now I’m considering not getting it if it’s easy to swap the pull down attachment with speed pins. Thanks!!
I think there would be too much play with 2 magpins. I like 1 and 1 because I can tighten the bolt and the other pin just serves as support.
@@KaizenDIYGym that makes sense!! Thanks man.
I’m think I’m gonna do a dedicated setup for mine as well. I’m intending to replace my BoS plate loaded cable tower with one of these.
Great video! If I already have a 4-post rack (Rogue RML-3), can you recommend a cost-effective option for a separate set of 2 uprights for a similar setup to your Omni uprights? Or would these work on just a pair of Omni uprights that I can purchase from REP separately?
10:11 why not use a 7x19 cable?
is there such a way i can rig these to allow for cable pressing exercises with my jammer arms?
Your Kaiserwinder setup is great Bro , but like you said everybody has different preferences and needs and that’s fine.
Exactly!
Ho it goes down in lat pulldowns for example? Does it loose resistance at the negative stage?
I have a rhino dropped into a 4 post 30" rack. will the back throlleys get in the way of rhino handles? also if I decide to keep the rear post as plate storage, could I add two more uprights in between the rack to add throlleys to them so I can keep using back uprights for plate storage??? OR are the cables design for a specific rack lenght like 24inck, 30inch etc....??? do you think that will be a good idea? I already have a selectorized separate FT and also a seperate selectorized lat pull down, however I would like to ether sell the FT or lat pull down to conbine it in rhino rack to make some space for a sledtred. I just dont know if I would like going from selectorized to loading plates:(
great review; I'm looking to add functional trainer/lat pulldown capabilities to my Rogue ML 490 and I came across Dialed Motion amongst other equipment manufacturers. I like the versatility of Dialed Motion's retractable cable system. How durable is the reel mechanism and the locking/connection interface?
It seems pretty damn solid. If you haven't already, check out the review by @glucksgym where he disassembled the cable retractor and analyzed the components.
@@KaizenDIYGym yep ... I have and I'm digesting all of the info and asking Dialed Motion questions.
Sadly, for this product, everyone that ever uses a plate loaded FT will become tired of plate loading.
Everyone will want a selectorized and if they continue lifting they will upgrade to selectorized so I'm confused why this company only has plate loading.
I have a 30 inch four post rack with a rhino in it and would like to know if the throlleys in the rear post will interfere with the rhino? Iam thinking about selling my standalone inspire FT and add dialed motion to my exixting rack with the rhino in it.
I don’t have that set up and can’t confidently give you an answer. Maybe someone else in the comment section can help.
how far from the wall does the upright with the plates need to be? i have wall folding full rack with 8" extensions. think that will work?
If you’re planning on putting 45’s or bumpers on the weight horn, they need to clear the wall. That’s the only clearance issue you need to worry about.
@@KaizenDIYGym thinking it'll be close but should work 8" extension and the stronger and the gap plus an inch of upright to the middle. half of a typical 45" is about 8.5", at least my bumpers are.
Great review. Cool system.
Thanks so much! I really love it
We need the lat pulldown video🙏
You're looking for a video on how to set it up as a lat pulldown?
@@KaizenDIYGym I'm just looking for more cool things to do with uprights 🦾
Hello Kyle, i'm from Holland and I have a question about your wooden prototype version. ruclips.net/user/shortsU0yVM_3Mu68 I was hoping you would make a video about it, and I will tell you why. I build a wooden power rack which is standing outside. The commercial systems all are 'permanent' systems, and with rain etc. I can't leave it on after working out. That's why I'm looking for a system that is easily removed, like your wooden version. I don't think you will finish that project, although I hope you do, so hopefully you are willing to provide me enough information about so I can try to build two of them myself. Thanks and advanced and keep up creating your amazing content!