This was a really great video. Very well done and I really appreciate you including the "not listed specs" portion since those were all questions I had before making a decision to order.
Thank you so much! My goal is exactly that to make sure I provide people with the information that I would also want as a potential purchaser. Thanks for the support and I hope all goes well in your search!
Great review. You forgot to mention their amazing carabiners LOL. I just ordered 9 more. I love my Ibex system. It's so smooth, easy to use, has 1/1 ratio, doesn't have any extra cable dangling (which is sometimes a big no-no when you have a defiant cat), and the upper arm attachment is simply perfect for any high pulley exercises. Mine is installed on a 6 posts 80 inches PR5000 rack. I have a lat pulldown (Rep) but love to use my Ibex, and it doesn't take any additional depth (unlike the REP lat pulldown which imposes restrictions on attachments/exercises: the perfect example would be the dual VTS lite smith I have installed that can only be used on the middle uprights but is constantly in the way of the lat pulldown and the bottom pulley). I'll eventually try to tweak the lat pulldown (weight stacks) and make it fit on a cross-member being pulled by a 1/1 Dialed Motion system.
They are very nice carabiners! There are so many cool thinks about this systems it's really hard to do it all justice in a consolidated video. Yeah all around it's such the perfect plug and play system to any rack, and then on top of that it is so smooth and the 1:1 is nice. That also funny you mentioned trying to integrate the existing lat stack like I have into the dialed motion system, I am thinking of doing something similar but still TBD. I am wondering if I can find weight stack and guide rods for the rack and then just use the dialed motion on each side hooked to it like an Athena from REP. I get lazy over time with the plates on and off and am for sure spoiled since all my equipment is selectorized these days
@@TheJungleGymReviews I was able to order more stuff from Dialed Motion. I got one extra pulley and their carabiner AND threaded adapter. FYI, the threaded adapter does not work with REP's weight stack as the thread ratio doesn't match (they should really remedy to that and make multiple sizes available). I planned on tweaking my lat pulldown but decided to use both systems. Instead, I got rid of the REP stabilizer (the U shaped crossmember) and the low row plate. I ordered two ''small logo'' crossmembers, both are attached on the back uprights. I anchored the same cable on the low crossmember with a Spud Inc pulley and doing so I gained 1 foot of depth within my rack, which is a MAJOR improvement. On the top crossmember I attached a IKEA mirror. I now have a Lat Pulldown system that doesn't take much space, and the Dialed Motion system, giving me 3 pre-connected anchor points. You could still connect Dialed Motion to your weight stack but you will need at least 3 pulleys (not counting the last pulley that feeds the carriage), and you'll have to find a way to anchor the cable retractor directly on top of the weight stack in a way that doesn't use too much space or else it will limit your range of movement (a compatible threaded adapter would remedy to that...). The other option is to replace the low row cable with the Dialed Motion retractor and then have it fed to the carriage on an upright, giving you both an adjustable pulley AND a Lat pulldown. Whatever you decide, I highly recommend to switch the stabilizer to a compact logo crossmember (I literally gained 12 inches).
If you live in the USA, don't go with the Spud Inc Pulley but get something like the low pulley from Titan (bolted). Syl Fitness has a similar cheaper pulley (I'll eventually do the switch)
I ordered some of the pieces standalone for my rogue monster slinger, planning to convert the slinger into a single stack like contraption. Appreciate the video I am now consider buying a sidewinder setup for the other side of my monster rack lol
Glad to hear! the cool thing is you can buy the parts separately too and reuse the cable retractor if you decide you want to go between Ibex and Sidewinder or vice versa. Really well thought out by them so you don’t lock yourself into a $500 piece. Hope it works out for you!
@@andie_pl that makes complete sense, and sounds like you are exactly who that system is geared towards. If you end up grabbing anything from them, It would be awesome if you can use the link in this video description so they know I sent you. Either way I hope you like it and I hope it works out for you!
Glad to hear it! Just a heads up their Preorder 3 closes tomorrow evening so you have to do it before then unless you wait until early 2025 for their next stock to open. With that being said, it’s so smooth, it doesn’t really add any footprint, and it’s cheaper (and better quality) than a standalone dedicated of equivalent price range - so I definitely agree it’s a good option.
@GarrettWrap not at but I would say depends on your plate storage. If you don’t have any on the back of the rack or to counter balance these then yes, especially for lat pulldowns. Mine isn’t bolted down, but all my plates are on the back 2 posts so I can’t load enough weight to overcome those ha. So depends on your situation specifically
Are those 16” crossmembers? If so, can you load 45s onto the dialed motion trolley and not hit your 45s in the back upright? Looking to duplicate your setup. You’ve inspired me!
Yes 16” REP PR5000 crossmembers. And yes, I can have 45s on the trolley and 45s on the storage post right next to it with no problem. Still a few inches of clearance between them.
@@simj6440 thank you. I have to thank my Instagram algorithm for serving them up to me last year. But now I know for certain they are 100% worth checking out! they found a need in the home-gym market and are filling it for a great price point
Fantastic review! You touched on almost everything I had questions about. I ordered the Ibex in preorder 2, so hopefully it will be delivered soon. Where did you buy the bumper for the weight horn shown in the video?
Glad to hear I could help with some questions! From what I understand, I think they are supposed to ship by the end of September for the pre-order 2 I think that one I had extra laying around from some REP rack mounted weight horns, but I have ordered them in the past from Full Circle Padding. Part number LF111, you should be able to to Google search that brand and that part number
I only ordered one Ibex with the Lat upper arm. But I’m considering ordering a second Ibex in preorder 3. I wanted to get the product in hand before making a second order, but doesn’t look like that will happen. Do you think the second ibex would be worth it? Are there enough exercises that utilize both sides to make it worth it or can I get by with just one side? Would love to know how you’re using yours the most. Thanks!
@zthellman good question I thought about this yesterday. I think what you ordered in a single Ibex with lat arm has the best bang for buck. You’re asking for the cable column vs. functional trainer argument now. I like dual cables for chest fly and having variations for pressing movements. You can also attach a bar attachment between the cables for all sorts of creativity. That being said, even in my training I’m about 70% one side only and 30% both. For me, I’ve always had a functional trainer and I’m in it for the long run so would rather have it. But it’s totally preference and budget
@@TheJungleGymReviewsare you sure that the bumper you're suggesting will fit on the dialed motion weight horns? I noticed when I took the bumper off my rep weight horns they were too small as the rep weight horns have a smaller diameter than the dialed motion ones.
Thanks so much for making this video! Also extremely well done, I hope your channel explodes! 2 questions if you'd be so kind to answer - do you have recommendation for a rubber stopper that fits well on the weight horns? Basement dweller here. I should have an inch to spare 😅 (frantically going to check shortly), but couldnt you just move the pulley mount? Does the lat pulldown arm only need an inch as well? I will 100% put a whole in my ceiling if needed. (Sorry landlord)
You are very welcome, that's my whole goal with the channel is to help people like you! Also I appreciate the kind words, so thank you. In regards to the pulleys and the lat arm, yes you can 100% move them lower. I assumed most people wanted the "standard" configuration at the top of the rack but since the pulley and the lat arm are side mounted so you can use any hole in the rack for either, you just lose the little bit of height of the lat pulldown/ROM and therefore also the pulley carriage will sit below that as well. But it will totally work so you have options to your hole in the ceiling ha
@@TheJungleGymReviews Awesome, thank you! I'll see how the 3" between top of my uprights and the ceiling work out, but now i'm at ease! Any recommendations on the rubber stopper for the weight horns? Are you ditching your functional trainer after getting this?
@@MikeBanom glad to hear! the rubber bumpers I ordered them from Full Circle Padding. Part number LF111, you should be able to to Google search that brand and that part number
Thank you! Yes they are a separate purchase but well worth it in my opinion as They are the best feeling handles I have personally owned. I liked them better than and of the standard ones that come with any of the machines or even the Bare Steel Equipment co ones and the Rogue one I have owned in the past too
Hey great set up and video! What is the height of your rack, and what is the length if the cable travel? I’m trying to decide which system will work better for my rack, the ibex or the sidewinder…I have a rogue 72” hr-2. I’m mainly concerned with the length of the cable travel since my rack is so short.
Thank you so much! the height is 100 inches tall but I have a crossmember at 93 inches for lat pulldowns so thats the max height the Ibex can travel. Additionally because of the pepin fast series dumbbells, I actually mounted the ibex trolley at around 30 inches or so from the ground, which still gave me about 5 feet or so of travel on each side which is PLENTY. Unless you do any single sided movements where you need to be more than 5 feet away from the rack, the Ibex is perfect, and I would argue 1.) more compact than the sidewinder and 2.) I know for a fact it is super super super smooth. you can't go wrong with either but even on a 72 inch rack you should have enough cable travel.
Extremely well put together video. I’m one of the basement people with low ceilings. Could I technically bolt the upper pulleys one hole lower with the dialed motion set up?
Yes! And thank you. Confirmed that can put it in any hole on the rack, so for you it would just be the next one down from the top hole and you’re good to go
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do you mean the Dialed motion/Ibex pulley or in general a normal plate pulley system? for the normal plate loaded pulley yes, for the Ibex the main trolley portion is bolted onto the rack so I can't think of a way to utilize the lever arms off to the side (like with a free mounted cable) and attach the Ibex to it to get a wider ROM than whatever your rack width is
can you mount this anywhere on the rack since it seems to be side mounted? you mentioned you would need an extra 1" but if my rack is in the basement, would this still work?
Yes, I think somewhere in the other comments here I did address the same question! You can mount it to any hole since it’s side mounted obviously you just lose the highest height setting
The main difference is the patented cable retractor mechanism itself. It can fit on any rack. The bully glider is just the trolley system whereas this features the cable retractor which is side mounted on the rack. so the combination of that retractor + the trolley is what makes this system great.
it was originally 1 inch over the top of the flush top beams height, but as someone corrected me, you can install it on any holes, meaning you can move it to the second one down from the top of the upright then the height is less than your rack if that make sense, but obviously the tradeoff is lose one height hole overall, but a decent tradeoff!
I would love to! When I can get my hands on the Bulletproof high/low pulley system rack attachment for the VTS (it’s currently sold out), I would love to compare it side by side to the Dialed Motion system here. I’ll see what I can do.
The cable is too close to the uprights. The cable might touch the rack during workout. What's you experience or review about cable spacing. It's seems spaced to 1inch diagonally.
It doesn’t touch the rack at all, ever. I’ve yet to have a single situation where it touched the rack or the spacing was an issue and I haven’t heard of any other users experiencing such an issue. It’s spaced just the same as a functional trainer does from the cable to the post/upright
Great review man. Really want to add one to my home gym set up. Does the upper lat arm add any height to your rack? Also, looks like the cable comes down the rear pulley of the lat arm for the side that it is on, when you're using the trolley. Had and issues with the cable rubbing on that portion of the lat arm?
Thank you, and now I can confidently say, I highly recommend it. I actually may consider selling my dedicated functional trainer just to save space because this is that good… Lat arm is the same rack height addition of 1 inch - sorry if that wasn’t clear in the video! And No rubbing whatsoever, the pulleys and cables are all on the same axis as each other so no weird rubber or anything is possible unless your rack is somehow out of alignment by like 1 inch from left to right (which I don’t think is possible due to crossmember bolts being on center) . The pulley inside the lat arms is also the same vertical location as the one on the other side, just hidden under the lat arm faceplate/shroud
Interesting enough I tried it out at Home Gym con and James & Leland about the height of the lat arm. You can bolt it lower on the rack if your rack is super close to the ceiling. You just lose a little bit of travel.
@roberttaylor8514 I didn’t even think about that but you’re completely right because it’s hole dependent as long as no other bolt holes from pull up bars or something get in the way. I assume most people want it to light up to the pull up bar which means it would go top of the rack. Great point though for people to consider!
Does the trolley feel unbalanced if you only load one side? If not you can save even more space by removing the outer weight horns and just loading all weight on the inside of the rack
That’s a great question I tried to show in one of the clips but didn’t articulate. Yes you can load one side only because the trolley/rollers distribute the weight evenly throughout the trolley frame/roller bearings on both sides. I’m sure that if you got to extremely heavy weights like 300LBS on one side, it might start to drag a little bit there are always limitations and physics ha. But I compared personally like a 90 LB difference between the two sides with no noticeable difference
I got the Ibex during the first pre-order. Dialed motion specifically designed the trolley so that you only need to load one side and it won't feel unbalanced. I almost never use both weight horns on each trolley (the only reason to do so is if you're running out of space on the one horn and want to load more plates). Interestingly I do the opposite of what you're suggesting. Since my plates are loaded on storage weight horns on the outside of my rack, I use the outer weight horn on the trolley because all I need to do is unload a plate from a storage horn and then slide it on the outer horn of the trolley which is right in line with the storage horns. Hope this helps.
Yes sir. Mine is on a PR5000 80 inches rack. I have plenty of space (the weights don't hit the top of the rack). And you can eventually switch it from the left side to the right side (which you CANNOT do if you get a REP Athena).
Available to order now. They are only currently available to preorder until 9/22 at 11:59PM. If you preorder from today through when that window closes, those orders ship in January. So you have to preorder then they are making everything to order from that for a January ship date. So if you don’t order before 9/22 you have to wait until some date early next year when they do click and ship orders, right now it’s just made to order.
I would love to try the Buffalo Bully Fab Glyder, but don’t know much about their cable system, I think that’s one of the cool thinks about Dialed Motion they killed it on the trolley + the cable system which allows you to use it however you want. From my understanding those other two options are just trolleys. So only comparing apples to oranges although there is some merit in comparing the trollies likely
The Bully Glyder is simply amazing. The only thing is it doesn't come with a cable retractor, unlike Dialed Motion. Which means you can't easily adjust it for different exercises, as they sometimes require the pulley to be high or low, and the cable length will be different for each exercise meaning you will never be 100% comfortable or well positioned. I have the Ibex, Bully Glyder and Dual VTS lite. The Ibex and Bully Glyder are superior than the VTS lite in terms of ''rolling performance''. If I could, I would trade my VTS lite for a second Bully Glyder and I would simply switch my barbell with the Bulletproof latch/hooks from the dual VTS to the dual Bully Glyder.
@@BrownEyedSoulMusic I used the Bully Glyder on a REP PR5000 6 posts 80 inches rack. It was used along a dual pulley ''Spud Inc'' system purchased from Rogue. The Bully Glyder is very easy to install, ultra smooth and super stable. The Bully Glyder is superior to the VTS Lite system (IMO). The only downside: it's not ''adjustable'', which means you are limited on the exercises you can do because the cable length is fixed. By using a dual pulley I could have a cable attachment point high (triceps exercises), and one low (biceps, low row etc...). Dialed Motion nailed it with their retractable cable, removing the need of a ''DIY'' non adjustable system.
Extremely well put together video. I’m one of the basement people with low ceilings. Could I technically bolt the upper pulleys one hole lower with the dialed motion set up?
You can, as long as nothing comes in the way of the cable (like a bolt). The cable should be positioned on the outside of the rack and the pulley installed at any height. You can even install the upper arm attachment at any height.
This was a really great video. Very well done and I really appreciate you including the "not listed specs" portion since those were all questions I had before making a decision to order.
Thank you so much! My goal is exactly that to make sure I provide people with the information that I would also want as a potential purchaser. Thanks for the support and I hope all goes well in your search!
Great review. You forgot to mention their amazing carabiners LOL. I just ordered 9 more. I love my Ibex system. It's so smooth, easy to use, has 1/1 ratio, doesn't have any extra cable dangling (which is sometimes a big no-no when you have a defiant cat), and the upper arm attachment is simply perfect for any high pulley exercises. Mine is installed on a 6 posts 80 inches PR5000 rack. I have a lat pulldown (Rep) but love to use my Ibex, and it doesn't take any additional depth (unlike the REP lat pulldown which imposes restrictions on attachments/exercises: the perfect example would be the dual VTS lite smith I have installed that can only be used on the middle uprights but is constantly in the way of the lat pulldown and the bottom pulley). I'll eventually try to tweak the lat pulldown (weight stacks) and make it fit on a cross-member being pulled by a 1/1 Dialed Motion system.
They are very nice carabiners! There are so many cool thinks about this systems it's really hard to do it all justice in a consolidated video.
Yeah all around it's such the perfect plug and play system to any rack, and then on top of that it is so smooth and the 1:1 is nice. That also funny you mentioned trying to integrate the existing lat stack like I have into the dialed motion system, I am thinking of doing something similar but still TBD. I am wondering if I can find weight stack and guide rods for the rack and then just use the dialed motion on each side hooked to it like an Athena from REP. I get lazy over time with the plates on and off and am for sure spoiled since all my equipment is selectorized these days
@@TheJungleGymReviews I was able to order more stuff from Dialed Motion. I got one extra pulley and their carabiner AND threaded adapter. FYI, the threaded adapter does not work with REP's weight stack as the thread ratio doesn't match (they should really remedy to that and make multiple sizes available). I planned on tweaking my lat pulldown but decided to use both systems. Instead, I got rid of the REP stabilizer (the U shaped crossmember) and the low row plate. I ordered two ''small logo'' crossmembers, both are attached on the back uprights. I anchored the same cable on the low crossmember with a Spud Inc pulley and doing so I gained 1 foot of depth within my rack, which is a MAJOR improvement. On the top crossmember I attached a IKEA mirror. I now have a Lat Pulldown system that doesn't take much space, and the Dialed Motion system, giving me 3 pre-connected anchor points. You could still connect Dialed Motion to your weight stack but you will need at least 3 pulleys (not counting the last pulley that feeds the carriage), and you'll have to find a way to anchor the cable retractor directly on top of the weight stack in a way that doesn't use too much space or else it will limit your range of movement (a compatible threaded adapter would remedy to that...). The other option is to replace the low row cable with the Dialed Motion retractor and then have it fed to the carriage on an upright, giving you both an adjustable pulley AND a Lat pulldown. Whatever you decide, I highly recommend to switch the stabilizer to a compact logo crossmember (I literally gained 12 inches).
If you live in the USA, don't go with the Spud Inc Pulley but get something like the low pulley from Titan (bolted). Syl Fitness has a similar cheaper pulley (I'll eventually do the switch)
I ordered some of the pieces standalone for my rogue monster slinger, planning to convert the slinger into a single stack like contraption. Appreciate the video I am now consider buying a sidewinder setup for the other side of my monster rack lol
Glad to hear! the cool thing is you can buy the parts separately too and reuse the cable retractor if you decide you want to go between Ibex and Sidewinder or vice versa. Really well thought out by them so you don’t lock yourself into a $500 piece. Hope it works out for you!
@@TheJungleGymReviews yes, leaning more towards getting a sidewinder because I already have a ton of random attachments on my rack already
@@andie_pl that makes complete sense, and sounds like you are exactly who that system is geared towards.
If you end up grabbing anything from them, It would be awesome if you can use the link in this video description so they know I sent you. Either way I hope you like it and I hope it works out for you!
Great video, thank you for the information! I may go this route instead of buying a separate functional trainer.
Glad to hear it! Just a heads up their Preorder 3 closes tomorrow evening so you have to do it before then unless you wait until early 2025 for their next stock to open.
With that being said, it’s so smooth, it doesn’t really add any footprint, and it’s cheaper (and better quality) than a standalone dedicated of equivalent price range - so I definitely agree it’s a good option.
@@TheJungleGymReviews I appreciate the heads up! One quick question, do you think bolting your rack down would be a requirement with this system?
@GarrettWrap not at but I would say depends on your plate storage. If you don’t have any on the back of the rack or to counter balance these then yes, especially for lat pulldowns. Mine isn’t bolted down, but all my plates are on the back 2 posts so I can’t load enough weight to overcome those ha. So depends on your situation specifically
Are those 16” crossmembers? If so, can you load 45s onto the dialed motion trolley and not hit your 45s in the back upright? Looking to duplicate your setup. You’ve inspired me!
Yes 16” REP PR5000 crossmembers. And yes, I can have 45s on the trolley and 45s on the storage post right next to it with no problem. Still a few inches of clearance between them.
@@TheJungleGymReviews thanks for the info - awesome video
Very good video, thank you, I didn't know that company
@@simj6440 thank you. I have to thank my Instagram algorithm for serving them up to me last year. But now I know for certain they are 100% worth checking out! they found a need in the home-gym market and are filling it for a great price point
Fantastic review! You touched on almost everything I had questions about. I ordered the Ibex in preorder 2, so hopefully it will be delivered soon. Where did you buy the bumper for the weight horn shown in the video?
Glad to hear I could help with some questions! From what I understand, I think they are supposed to ship by the end of September for the pre-order 2
I think that one I had extra laying around from some REP rack mounted weight horns, but I have ordered them in the past from Full Circle Padding. Part number LF111, you should be able to to Google search that brand and that part number
I only ordered one Ibex with the Lat upper arm. But I’m considering ordering a second Ibex in preorder 3. I wanted to get the product in hand before making a second order, but doesn’t look like that will happen. Do you think the second ibex would be worth it? Are there enough exercises that utilize both sides to make it worth it or can I get by with just one side? Would love to know how you’re using yours the most. Thanks!
@zthellman good question I thought about this yesterday. I think what you ordered in a single Ibex with lat arm has the best bang for buck. You’re asking for the cable column vs. functional trainer argument now. I like dual cables for chest fly and having variations for pressing movements. You can also attach a bar attachment between the cables for all sorts of creativity.
That being said, even in my training I’m about 70% one side only and 30% both. For me, I’ve always had a functional trainer and I’m in it for the long run so would rather have it. But it’s totally preference and budget
@@TheJungleGymReviewsare you sure that the bumper you're suggesting will fit on the dialed motion weight horns? I noticed when I took the bumper off my rep weight horns they were too small as the rep weight horns have a smaller diameter than the dialed motion ones.
@Mench951 yep because it is that exact one that I used in the video, The one in the video is not the rep one, It’s from Full Circle
Thanks so much for making this video! Also extremely well done, I hope your channel explodes! 2 questions if you'd be so kind to answer - do you have recommendation for a rubber stopper that fits well on the weight horns?
Basement dweller here. I should have an inch to spare 😅 (frantically going to check shortly), but couldnt you just move the pulley mount? Does the lat pulldown arm only need an inch as well? I will 100% put a whole in my ceiling if needed. (Sorry landlord)
You are very welcome, that's my whole goal with the channel is to help people like you! Also I appreciate the kind words, so thank you.
In regards to the pulleys and the lat arm, yes you can 100% move them lower. I assumed most people wanted the "standard" configuration at the top of the rack but since the pulley and the lat arm are side mounted so you can use any hole in the rack for either, you just lose the little bit of height of the lat pulldown/ROM and therefore also the pulley carriage will sit below that as well. But it will totally work so you have options to your hole in the ceiling ha
@@TheJungleGymReviews Awesome, thank you! I'll see how the 3" between top of my uprights and the ceiling work out, but now i'm at ease!
Any recommendations on the rubber stopper for the weight horns?
Are you ditching your functional trainer after getting this?
@@MikeBanom glad to hear! the rubber bumpers I ordered them from Full Circle Padding. Part number LF111, you should be able to to Google search that brand and that part number
Awesome video, did you have to order/pay for the handles separately? Or are they included in the package?
Thank you! Yes they are a separate purchase but well worth it in my opinion as They are the best feeling handles I have personally owned. I liked them better than and of the standard ones that come with any of the machines or even the Bare Steel Equipment co ones and the Rogue one I have owned in the past too
Hey great set up and video! What is the height of your rack, and what is the length if the cable travel? I’m trying to decide which system will work better for my rack, the ibex or the sidewinder…I have a rogue 72” hr-2. I’m mainly concerned with the length of the cable travel since my rack is so short.
Thank you so much! the height is 100 inches tall but I have a crossmember at 93 inches for lat pulldowns so thats the max height the Ibex can travel. Additionally because of the pepin fast series dumbbells, I actually mounted the ibex trolley at around 30 inches or so from the ground, which still gave me about 5 feet or so of travel on each side which is PLENTY. Unless you do any single sided movements where you need to be more than 5 feet away from the rack, the Ibex is perfect, and I would argue 1.) more compact than the sidewinder and 2.) I know for a fact it is super super super smooth. you can't go wrong with either but even on a 72 inch rack you should have enough cable travel.
Extremely well put together video. I’m one of the basement people with low ceilings. Could I technically bolt the upper pulleys one hole lower with the dialed motion set up?
Yes! And thank you. Confirmed that can put it in any hole on the rack, so for you it would just be the next one down from the top hole and you’re good to go
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Do you think you could attach the handle pulleys to lever arms to get a wider grip position for chest flies?
do you mean the Dialed motion/Ibex pulley or in general a normal plate pulley system? for the normal plate loaded pulley yes, for the Ibex the main trolley portion is bolted onto the rack so I can't think of a way to utilize the lever arms off to the side (like with a free mounted cable) and attach the Ibex to it to get a wider ROM than whatever your rack width is
can you mount this anywhere on the rack since it seems to be side mounted? you mentioned you would need an extra 1" but if my rack is in the basement, would this still work?
Yes, I think somewhere in the other comments here I did address the same question! You can mount it to any hole since it’s side mounted obviously you just lose the highest height setting
How does this differentiate between the bulley glider?
The main difference is the patented cable retractor mechanism itself. It can fit on any rack. The bully glider is just the trolley system whereas this features the cable retractor which is side mounted on the rack. so the combination of that retractor + the trolley is what makes this system great.
Is the 1” clearance over the rep top crossmember or 1” on the top of the upright? Rogue has flush top beams, what would be the clearance over that?
it was originally 1 inch over the top of the flush top beams height, but as someone corrected me, you can install it on any holes, meaning you can move it to the second one down from the top of the upright then the height is less than your rack if that make sense, but obviously the tradeoff is lose one height hole overall, but a decent tradeoff!
Can you review the Bulletproof Fitness VTS?
I would love to! When I can get my hands on the Bulletproof high/low pulley system rack attachment for the VTS (it’s currently sold out), I would love to compare it side by side to the Dialed Motion system here. I’ll see what I can do.
what do you wanna know about it? I got the VTS and VTS Lite
That and the Syl version would be cool to compare
@@fatboitino2yeah it would cool to side by side compare the budget vs. premium options! Let me brainstorm
@@fatboitino2 I have the SYL version review on my channel. I want to see how it fares vs. the VTS
The cable is too close to the uprights. The cable might touch the rack during workout. What's you experience or review about cable spacing. It's seems spaced to 1inch diagonally.
It doesn’t touch the rack at all, ever. I’ve yet to have a single situation where it touched the rack or the spacing was an issue and I haven’t heard of any other users experiencing such an issue.
It’s spaced just the same as a functional trainer does from the cable to the post/upright
Great review man. Really want to add one to my home gym set up. Does the upper lat arm add any height to your rack? Also, looks like the cable comes down the rear pulley of the lat arm for the side that it is on, when you're using the trolley. Had and issues with the cable rubbing on that portion of the lat arm?
Thank you, and now I can confidently say, I highly recommend it. I actually may consider selling my dedicated functional trainer just to save space because this is that good…
Lat arm is the same rack height addition of 1 inch - sorry if that wasn’t clear in the video!
And No rubbing whatsoever, the pulleys and cables are all on the same axis as each other so no weird rubber or anything is possible unless your rack is somehow out of alignment by like 1 inch from left to right (which I don’t think is possible due to crossmember bolts being on center) . The pulley inside the lat arms is also the same vertical location as the one on the other side, just hidden under the lat arm faceplate/shroud
Interesting enough I tried it out at Home Gym con and James & Leland about the height of the lat arm. You can bolt it lower on the rack if your rack is super close to the ceiling. You just lose a little bit of travel.
@roberttaylor8514 I didn’t even think about that but you’re completely right because it’s hole dependent as long as no other bolt holes from pull up bars or something get in the way. I assume most people want it to light up to the pull up bar which means it would go top of the rack. Great point though for people to consider!
Does the trolley feel unbalanced if you only load one side?
If not you can save even more space by removing the outer weight horns and just loading all weight on the inside of the rack
That’s a great question I tried to show in one of the clips but didn’t articulate. Yes you can load one side only because the trolley/rollers distribute the weight evenly throughout the trolley frame/roller bearings on both sides. I’m sure that if you got to extremely heavy weights like 300LBS on one side, it might start to drag a little bit there are always limitations and physics ha. But I compared personally like a 90 LB difference between the two sides with no noticeable difference
I got the Ibex during the first pre-order. Dialed motion specifically designed the trolley so that you only need to load one side and it won't feel unbalanced. I almost never use both weight horns on each trolley (the only reason to do so is if you're running out of space on the one horn and want to load more plates). Interestingly I do the opposite of what you're suggesting. Since my plates are loaded on storage weight horns on the outside of my rack, I use the outer weight horn on the trolley because all I need to do is unload a plate from a storage horn and then slide it on the outer horn of the trolley which is right in line with the storage horns. Hope this helps.
Would this work just as well on an 80 inch height rack ?
Yes, the beauty of this retractable cable system is it will work on any size/height uprights
Yes sir. Mine is on a PR5000 80 inches rack. I have plenty of space (the weights don't hit the top of the rack). And you can eventually switch it from the left side to the right side (which you CANNOT do if you get a REP Athena).
Are these available now? The website says delivery won’t happen until January. Either way I’m getting one, it’s just a matter of now or January.
Available to order now. They are only currently available to preorder until 9/22 at 11:59PM. If you preorder from today through when that window closes, those orders ship in January. So you have to preorder then they are making everything to order from that for a January ship date.
So if you don’t order before 9/22 you have to wait until some date early next year when they do click and ship orders, right now it’s just made to order.
Turn Any Power Rack into a Functional Trainer! Unless you have a 2x2! Bonus points with 1/2 inch holes!
Haha the exclusions list was too long for the title. Something about “Turn 3x3 Power Racks….” Seems a bit too particular as well. Oh well
Another alternative: buffalo bullyfab and syl fitness
I would love to try the Buffalo Bully Fab Glyder, but don’t know much about their cable system, I think that’s one of the cool thinks about Dialed Motion they killed it on the trolley + the cable system which allows you to use it however you want. From my understanding those other two options are just trolleys. So only comparing apples to oranges although there is some merit in comparing the trollies likely
The Bully Glyder is simply amazing. The only thing is it doesn't come with a cable retractor, unlike Dialed Motion. Which means you can't easily adjust it for different exercises, as they sometimes require the pulley to be high or low, and the cable length will be different for each exercise meaning you will never be 100% comfortable or well positioned. I have the Ibex, Bully Glyder and Dual VTS lite. The Ibex and Bully Glyder are superior than the VTS lite in terms of ''rolling performance''. If I could, I would trade my VTS lite for a second Bully Glyder and I would simply switch my barbell with the Bulletproof latch/hooks from the dual VTS to the dual Bully Glyder.
@@11_of_Spades Can you explain a little more how you’re using the bulley glyder , what cable system or DIY are you rigging it with?
@@BrownEyedSoulMusic I used the Bully Glyder on a REP PR5000 6 posts 80 inches rack. It was used along a dual pulley ''Spud Inc'' system purchased from Rogue. The Bully Glyder is very easy to install, ultra smooth and super stable. The Bully Glyder is superior to the VTS Lite system (IMO). The only downside: it's not ''adjustable'', which means you are limited on the exercises you can do because the cable length is fixed. By using a dual pulley I could have a cable attachment point high (triceps exercises), and one low (biceps, low row etc...). Dialed Motion nailed it with their retractable cable, removing the need of a ''DIY'' non adjustable system.
Extremely well put together video. I’m one of the basement people with low ceilings. Could I technically bolt the upper pulleys one hole lower with the dialed motion set up?
You can, as long as nothing comes in the way of the cable (like a bolt). The cable should be positioned on the outside of the rack and the pulley installed at any height. You can even install the upper arm attachment at any height.