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Should you ONLY do daygame?
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2018
- Lots of guys have a preference for a specific type of game. And that's a GOOD thing. You should do what you are best and, happiest doing, and get results from. However, there are some very important reasons for doing other forms of game and learning other skills.
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Love how you emphasized specializing your strengths while also diversifying your development. Great insight
Brian Choi love ur channel Brian
Elchanon Goodman thank you Elchanon ! Happy to hear that
I love daygame! And for my first three years in game I did daygame exclusively. However, once I started doing nightgame, there were a ton of new learning lessons that would have been nearly impossible to learn from daygame alone. A little variety of practice can go a long way. In this video I discuss optimizing your strategy and personal style... for both practice and results.
when trying to set a date and the girl says I'll let you know my schedule. or something between those lines.
in that moment what can you reply?
I usually just stay silent and wait until she gets back to me..
sometimes they follow up.. but just want to know your way of handling it.
thanks
Why daygame slaughters nightgame (don't even get me started with the beta cuckery known as online "game":
Some attributes unique to daygame:
-Numbers actually translate to day 2s, as opposed to nightgame where they flake every time
-No cockblocks
-Girls are usually solo, as opposed to nightgame where they’re always in groups
-Girls are sober
-Ratios are roughly 1:1, as opposed to bars and clubs where it’s common to see 15 guys for every girl
-No blaring music
-Zero competition, as opposed to nightgame where the girl may get approached by 20 different dudes in a night
What other lessons are impossible to learn from daygame alone besides tonality?
I completely agree, I hate night game, I HATE BARS AND NIGHTCLUBS, but I have also run into problems with day game specifically because they are not open as much during the day.
Daygame the abundance of women is greater. Which are the best places? Malls, College, stores, parks anywhere. What's the benefits? There's millions of women in the day not thousands. There 24/7 women available for you than at night. Every day you will see different women and higher quality. The cool part is that there is zero competition. Women appreciate you more when you approach them during the day than at night. Women are more likely to get in a relationship with you than at night. 99% percent of men still can't approach during the day the matrix is still among them. You will meet your girlfriend during the day not at night . your chances are very low of getting a gf at night than the day. If you disagree you will see by experience . The rsd world doesn't really do day game. All there fans are only night gamers.they are all afraid to approach when the sun is out. If you approach during the day You break out of the matrix and your part of that 99% of men. I do agree with some night game just to adjust your game but in the long run the competition in the day is only you.
wow you sound like a clone of myself lol. I agree with every word. I would add the following: you can do nightgame when you feel like facing your fears and getting out of your comfort zone. But it's much better to be a good daygamer than a good nightgamer because it means you could meet your potential gf or wife anytime anywhere, whereas a nightgamer has to wait for the weekend. Daygame is a purer form of game. The only advantage of nightgame is that some girls are probably more open to going home with you than otherwise. But anything less than a same night lay leaves you with very little chance of seeing the girl again.
I agree n also we don't drink alcohol n I live with my parents (which isn't a bad thing in India it's actually respected) so night game doesn't work cos I don't go to clubs n even if I did I can't bring the girl to our place so daygame is better n also I hate parties
The beauty of daygame is that only like 1% of men can do it. Those who have real game and good conversation skills. At night, everyone is a tough guy when they are all high, drunk or both lol. These same people in the day are a wussies who cant do shit. Those who have mastered Daygame are truly on another level honestly compared to people who just wait for the weekend to get drunk girls. Peace!
So true! People say nightgame is superior are usually scared of daygame
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bottom line is, it all depends on whether you are successful enough in whatever type of game suits you. If so, I don't see why you should learn other forms of game. If you aren't, then you might consider trying other forms of game to try something new or see if that suits you better.
Thank you for breaking this down. I don't really like going out at night, so I highly appreciate the content.
Can you give us a very specific DEFINITION for the following terms followed by examples? : Qualifying, Disqualifying, Validation
Thank you in advance
p.s. : Most of the time these terms are TOO abstract and obscure in game, that is why i want a solid, THESAURUS like definition for them
Just write the Todd All-Game Algorithm Method Bible eBook already lol (it's been like over a decade since Venusian Arts Handbook, but redefinitions for qualification/disqualification/validation/iois/compliance/tests/investment/buyingtemperature could be clarified even further in the context of 2018 ;)
i didnt find that ebook anywhere if you can provide me with an ISBN or a link on any store so i can buy it, preferablly a hard cover.
Thank you for the reply but again guys it is really important that these definitions are expressed in Todd's terms and point of views, and if you notice the that qualifying and validating are extremely overlapping the way you put it, while i can notice clearly it can connote two different concepts, that is why i asked these definitions to be followed up by examples.
Marwan Omran get the magic bullets book they explain what all of those concepts are.
Why daygame slaughters nightgame (don't even get me started with the beta cuckery known as online "game":
Some attributes unique to daygame:
-Numbers actually translate to day 2s, as opposed to nightgame where they flake every time
-No cockblocks
-Girls are usually solo, as opposed to nightgame where they’re always in groups
-Girls are sober
-Ratios are roughly 1:1, as opposed to bars and clubs where it’s common to see 15 guys for every girl
-No blaring music
-Zero competition, as opposed to nightgame where the girl may get approached by 20 different dudes in a night
It's like cross training your game
Exactly!
Daygame is one of the favourite type of game of todd.
Hey Todd how do you actually lead towards sex? I can get makeouts and physicality but i consistently see a pattern of girls do the 3 date rules bs.
KensieMGS how old are you and How old are the girls.
3 dates aren't bad (if we're talking day game) it's even better. I don't rush with day game and they tend to stick around longer
need more info if you want people to give you specific ideas to help your specific problem dude.
Too vague, could be heaps of things your doing wrong..
Pull PULL
What´s your process for improving in game? How long do you focus on a specific area of your game for example? Thanks Todd, keep it up!
Not really a question for this channel, but can you do a video about vocal projection?
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That is a gold one, as is the whole series, but I thought more of the video dedicated fully to the vocal projection, exercises etc
Thanks you for the value!!
Could you please make a video, a manifesto maybe, on gaming also in your social circle (girlfriends, classmates, friends of friends, people that you see for your work, etc) especially how to pull them properly without being overly anxious about blowing it up with a mistake that may affect your day to day social setting
I did night game for years : but got fed up of hangovers and extreme fatigue, so now I have switched to day game and its fun but feel like an amateur
Todd pls talk about how to pull girls to not your place a lot of instructors asume that you have your own place but in a lot of cases thats not the case
Cazaputas42 that's easy! Pull her and when she's about to leave, propose to bring her back to her place because you're a gentleman! Than, once at her place, propose to have a drink of water because you're thirsty...
Hey todd, i recently came across something called LMS (looks, money and status), which is something along the lines of red pill thinking. I wanna know if you have some knolwedge about it and if you do, if you Could make a video about it.
Luis Emiliano González Vinces bro its about conveying value. maximize your looks so you can maximize your money so you csn maximize your status ... or at least present yourself like you do
the same comparison popped up in mind with a particular sport (had soccer in mind not basketball :P) and game even before you said it. I think at the beginning its very helpful to have as many experinces as possible and try a little bit of everything for a longer period of time, but with time it becomes more clear to you what you are good at and what you like.
So the 10% of gaming spending in more uncomfortable locations will be very helpful for you Pedro.
My question is: can you give us any lines or in general any examples from your experience from when you were with a girl and you wanna pull, but when you start to signal her that you wanna leave the club she starts pondering wheter she wanna go with you (logistics, her girlfriends etc.). What are some lines you use to make her feel more comfortable but at same time not backing off to much?
thanks in advance.
Your channel gives BY FAR the most valuable advice. THANKS FOR THAT.
greets from Germany. Steven.
That’s true, When I first started i try night game and because of my English girls wouldn’t understand what I said. Switching to Daygame thinks are much easier, but still I do night game different way how to approach and deal with different situations. Thanks Todd doing that.
How to pull girls to not your place (i.e. their place or public places)? Thanks in advance.
I would love to know your take on a certain situation: A girl who you've been friends with for a very long time because you never felt attracted to her, but now you do but you are basicaly in the friendzone but not by failure, how would you turn that around? Thank you! love your channels!
Can you make a chart/tier list of principles in order of skill level (i.e. things you need to master from beginner, novice, intermediate, advanced, instructor level.)
I'd even be willing to pay ( all be it not that much haha ) for this kind of progression advice!
@asktoddV if a girl doesn't bother to talk to text only like once every few days. Do i keep being needy or just ignore. In a way treat her as she treats me? Since it's at the beginning
great vid, would you please tell us how to balance the cocky funny and push pull stuff with small talk, so that we can avoid overdoing any of them ?
Ending a "perfect" monogamous relationship to pursue game and an open relationship.. Is it ever the right choice?
Your content's on point man, mind blowing stuff! Excited to see where your solo brand goes
Prodigy2002 If your relationship is truly perfect, then you wouldn't want to leave it to pursue other girls. If you feel like leaving her for other girls then your relationship isn't perfect, and I'd say that yeah if you're dissatisfied in a relationship then end it bro.
what are the most common stickypoints you see every time again from beginner, intermedite and advanced guys
There was this girl following me around the train station and pointing in my direction i talked to her and she reacted very mean and arrogant when i asked her if everything is fine
i know it was not a good opener but i wasnt attracted to her so i diddnt care anyway but i still wannted to know why she is facing me and getting closer to me no mather i was going and it cant be for another one because behind me where the train rails so thats not why
I just have major issues with day game. My night game is excellent, but it's much more natural for me to chase girls at night as I'm normally out with friends in the first place. During the day, I simply don't have time to do it. I also don't know where I would go to find girls worth hitting on as obesity rates are extremely high in my city. Seems like it would be inefficient use of time for me.
Hey Todd , could you please talk about managing your ego in game? I seem to have a huge ego problem and judgement problem. Thanks
Patrick Yao Heat check I guess? Like say something high risk every once and a while just to check that you're not invincible. It should kill your ego and bring you back to reality.
Hey Todd, how to deal with competiton, i.e other PUAs hitting on the girl - if you start pushing that will come off as needy which puts the girls off, but when you don't push hard enough some other guy may end up pulling the girl?
Is this the best place to submit questions?
I can only do daygame for a few more months until I turn 21,
How can I do daygame with a wing? I'm struggling with motivation and could use an extra set of eyes to give me feedback I miss
I'm just not into clubs, dance parties and loud venues. It actually makes me feel physically disoriented. Bars are ok though.
Hi Todd! my qyestion. is how do you convey high value as a man in terms of pure vibe that universally adapts to any situation (ie day/nightgame or a niche) And how would you recommend finding "creative" type woman that may be on the upperend in terms of social value? Like a or b list actresses/performer. please let me know if you can and thank you!
Romeo Tene Bro if you want A list actresses like let's be real here, you don't necessarily need to be famous, but you need to have a lot of social status, and I mean a LOT more social status than the fuckboys in college with 3000 insta followers and a bunch of cute college girls on them. You really need to be rich. Like just to be able to get into the types of venues that these actresses are going to, and to not be seen as some creep, you've gotta realistically be as close to their level as possible.
Todd, can you explain how to build social capital? I know that's about good emotions, connection, good experience in general, but i think that it's a very powerfull tool, and an interesting topic and very much beetwhen us don't know his importance.
-Thanks!!
Hey Todd,I love your videos .Can you make a video about how to deal with the feel of rejection especially if you are an emotional guy.Thank you.
hakan bayer Get rejected a few times bro. The only way to learn how to take a punch is to take one. A lot of it is anticipation, like honestly it's not as bad as you're building it up to be in your mind. That's why you need to experience it yourself.
Hey Todd thanks for the content I'm a huge fan of your advice as they have tremendously helped me in my dating life. I have a question, how do you think us men should go about introducing women we date to our sexual fetishes? I would love to here your insights on that frequently overlooked topic.
Hi Todd, I watched your The Art of Game video and I was wondering if you could help me with a question, given that you touched on it in the video.
I do direct game, I'm flirting with a lot of girls and lot of them reply positively in turn making my body pump up serotonin because the counter in my brain thinks that I'm the shit on some competence hierarchy, because all the chicks are into me. I've seen that you're following Jordan Peterson so i thought that you would be interested in that revelation that I had. My goal is to get one girl that is superb and meets standards of mine that I have, which is that she has to be intelligent or creative, and a lot of other stuff which is a lot of stuff and so I go for a lot of time without a girl before I meet the girl i want to date.
And this is the pattern that i often fall into. I meet the girl, I'm at that time acting naturally unavailable because I feel godlike of all the serotonin, I take action and flirt with the girls and have fun and take care only of my own needs and wants. But when I meet that girl that want to be with i hook up with her and then I start to invest in her, I stop flirting with other girls, I start feeling some emotions for her, and I neglect my needs and wants. Because my big need and want is to have sex, and usually I don't get to fulfill it because, as I have noticed, I lose congruence as the time passes and she looses trust in me, because I changed my behavior which means I settled down with her for that period of time because I want a deep and meaningful connection with one girl. I can be a pushover, because I start to feel needy because I have usually been searching for her for a long time and i don't want to lose her. On a side note, I'm sexually inexperienced and have sexual anxiety.
Can you give me some insight?
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Hey Todd. Can you elaborate on what you think of theredpill community? Thanks
That's basically me. I trained myself to have bad tonality. Need to do more night game.
Day game is way better for me if I'm 40. In a club on my own I'm looking like desperate dog...
The more I learn about game the more I learn about life itself. I think that's what I love the most about doing it :)
What to do when a girl starts talking on the phone when you approach her?
Tomek Tomalos she immediately goes to talk on her phone as you approach? She’s probably creeped out and using it as an excuse to not talk to you lol
Epic content as always
I always thought daygame was great, but my results have been terrible. Now before anyone says its because my game sucks (because I don't think I'm that bad), I was wondering if anyone thinks nighttime is better because girls are only out at night when they're interested/looking for guys, whereas during the day they aren't? It just isn't socially acceptable during the day, so women don't go out looking during the day. Anybody have any thoughts?
It looks like you never approached during the day. Begginer mentality
FANTASTIC!!!
What do you exactly mean by voice tonality, I do tend to have a low tone when talking to unknown women
Solid
Do you still think if you gain value you lose comfort and vice versa? I don’t understand why. If you offer her the right amount of value, wouldn’t she feel ‘comfortable’ around you for that?
thanks Todd, you’re the best
Juo H If you offer too much value then she could end up seeing you as out of her league. Do you feel comfortable around a girl who is an objective 10? She has lots of value, but that is distinctly different from comfort. Comfort is relating to her and making her see that you're human too. How hot would you find it if that 10 you thought was out of your league had a deep and meaningful convo with you and made you realise that you were a lot more similar than you thought? It brings the 10 down off of their pedistal and makes them seem attainable.
Todd, I get in a lot of situations where I get a girl one on one, and things are going well, but then she brings me to her guy friend or he comes and he wants to fight me. How do I deal with this catch-22?
chris Neilson Be friendly to him, introduce yourself, and then get back to talking to the girl. Occasionally include him if possible so that he doesn't feel like dragging his female friend away.
This is an interesting question. I'm an old dude at his mid 30s but I'm still only doing day game picking up cute young girls.
Dislike night game because it's too tiring and loud. Dislike online game because let's be real, Girls are mostly ugly there and you're just another guy validating her.
For a day game approach to go well, you need to have all your shit together. Be grounded, calm and cool, be sure of your own identity.
Well, but if you never try white nights or little bit of this and that you almost stuck in the mood! I am 45 and love night game
Hey Todd, where do I start my game journey?
I do beach game.
How to game at college? without having the "fuck boy " reputation
In the dating game, as soon as we leave, memories slowly fade, and new flirtations arise.
Should you push for sex on first date? Can it backfire if you’re looking to date seriously?
funny. cause Im opposite. I enjoy nightgame and hate daygame.
Should i hit gym tod?
Hazcool45 yeah bro, always hit the gym. Unless you look so good that people start to accuse you of doing steroids, you can always be better.
#AskToddVandeHey Do indirect openers work?
Yes. Better than direct, generally speaking.
Frederick0220 Do you have examples?
Or is indirect for you situational and observational comments?
Yes, from first-hand experience. Todd talks about this, too. He brings up a great point. When you go direct, you force the girl to make a decision right then and there, as opposed to indirect, in which you buy some time and can build attraction. I almost always ask for directions. Is it sexy? No. Does it work? Yes. I make some cold reads after, tease/neg, then transition into showing intent (direct). Then, I build some comfort and go for the #.
Frederick0220 Thanks for this great answer dude :)
I am from germany and Pick Up does hardly exist here. As a result women are always very overwhelmed by direct and i thought they reject only because of scarcity but the point of "giving away power" is probably even stronger.
After the indirect opener you do cold reads...what is that? Statements about her in order reveal her character in a teasing and funny way?
You got it, dawg!
Yeah, like "You seem like you're from _______" or "I can tell by your nose ring, you're a trouble maker."
Where can a man in his early 20s find the hottest girls during the day? Or is it very hit and miss besides modelling conventions etc?
ZaediusRA1000 Pretty hit and miss I'd say bro, like in every day life, you could try the mall and shit like that, because you will inevitably meet a hot girl there at some point. You will have to persist with it a fair bit and keep going till you find one I guess. The hottest girls can be found in the biggest quantities in night game I'd say. If you just want to find hot girls fast then try night game.
I don't know why daygame is good ,wouldn't girl be thinking that U don't have a job or you're not high value
How affects masturbation and porn in game?
Day Game is good, but if you can do night game where your in an environment where girls know guys are out at bars and nightclubs with the sole intention of getting laid, at least in there mind, that is where you will benefit. A lot of guy do Day game because they get intimidated by nightlife. In my opinion that is why people do online dating too, because they get intimidated but the lights, the women all dressed up.
Ben Jones haha that's funny! Nightgame is amazing because you can take many liberties... Compared to daygame where most of the time it's bland! You can do whatever you want during nightgame..
I disagree with you and all the rsd dudes. Most of the rsd fans can't do day game with the rest of the world. In the contrary if you can approach in the day you can easily approach in the night. If you master day game you master anything. Why? Because no one ever does day game. Everyone is scared to approach in the day. Only when the night come and its dark its when everyone little confident teddy bear comes out. Don't speak if you don't have the experience . I'm a day gamers and when it comes to night its cake. Its best too keep everyone believing night game is the best cuz that way my competition in the day is still zero.
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How to let a girl know you have a girlfriend that's okay with you having other girls?
Gaming with my girl has been good for threesomes. But girls usually stop talking to me when I tell them I'm involved with someone already.
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It's called human interaction, you muppet. It's not a game and we're not players in some game. Show some respect, be true to yourself and everything else will fall into place.
Wyzax76 agree, it's like you trying to manipulate someone using "cheats". However it all depends how you approach it. If you treat it like a game in terms of improving your social skills as if it was video game where you gather experience by slaying monsters and in real life, by interacting with women then I think it's healthy.
no it wont, you will end up talkin and talkin and talkin and nothing happens. or maybe something happens once during 5 years.