It's kind of weird that Link's bombs blow up when lit on fire when they weren't affected by fire in breath of the wild. (At least, I'm pretty sure they weren't anyway)
I've always thought of Echos being one's stronger and slower and the other is faster. Does this tend to be true? In this case, I imagined Simon to be the stronger one.
@@marioleon86 the only moves that Simon stole from Richter are the Whip Dash, the Downkick, the Uppercut, and the Backflip. Simon actually had moves of his own before Symphony of the Night was released: the Stationary Whip Twirl, the Whip Ledge Swing, and the Multidirectional Whip Attacks.
SaveAsUntitled I have 3 questions, 1. when or if you do ryu or ken, may you please explain what makes ken an echo and dr Mario and pichu and young link non echos, 2. why did it look like Richter's cross went farther than simons at 1:34 and 1:41 or is it just me and 3. out of all the echos, who is your favorite
This is also a lore accurate change. In case anyone isn't to familiar with him, richter was the strongest member of the belmont family due to him being not just physically but magically attuned. Which explains his holy water being an aura type of attack.
1:34 Simon's Cross boomerang just went a lot less distance than Richter's did. Is that something that you can change the distance on, kind of like Dedede's gordos?
Ganon is not an echo of the Cap'n. All of his A attacks have different animations and properties and he has a sword now. Only the specials are similar.
I like how people tried to justify Richter somehow being better than simon yet litterally richter only has an advantage in the olimar mu and Simon has a overall better down b, simon is legit better
The Nikkerman I mean not necessarily, olimar is better than link and in every other mu it doesn’t actually matter (there’s no way it’ll actually be noticeably useful against freezing moves). Also richter is hotter.
@@ogreman-lll-957 2 months is actually pretty long especially with the virus going around also you do not need to feel like you need to answer someone now end of conversation i do not want to argue any more
Richter is far better noted as the greatest Belmont by Canon okay greatest skill set but Simon just simply copies Richter and tries to take credit because of his proverbial senority
@@dungeonwallmeat2113 Yeah, Simon and Richter are literally Day and Night. Simon brought his lineage out of the darkness, Richter got his lineage BACK into the Darkness. Why else would the Morris Clan take the Vampire Killer whip until 1999, when Julius Belmont shows up?
In this video and others, it seems like Richter's Side B is faster than Simon's. And does it travel farther? But I'm certain you can throw the cross harder and therefore make it travel faster with both characters, so perhaps my observation is incorrect. In any case, the demonstrations of Simon vs. Richter I have seen (including this one) have seemed a little misleading when it comes to their Side Bs.
- Ryu's hadoken does more damage than Ken's - Ken's shoryu hits three times, does more damage than Ryu's, and has no sweet spot. - Ken walks/runs slightly faster than Ryu - Ryu's tatsu hits once and can kill. Ken's tatsu hits multiple times. - Ryu's half circle special is red fireball. Ken's half circle special is crazy kicks. - Ken has an additional command for his crazy kicks. - focus attacks have different animations. - For standard attacks, heavy neutral A, light and heavy f-tilt, f-smash, n-air, and u-air are different for both characters. Minor detail is that Kirby can use Ryu's half circle special (red fireball) on inhale, but cannot use Ken's half-circle special (crazy kicks).
So many missed opportunities with richter, dark samus, dark pit and daisy.... If u put in echo fighters u could really make unique and cool fighters out of them, really lazy imo. Best example for 2 unique characters are mario and dr.mario, way different, just kinda similar and both really cool in a very different way.
I never noticed that simon doesn't throws his cross very far That's exactly like the original Castlevania, his cross is effective but it doesn't go very far Same thing for Harmony of despair, his cross is insanely powerful but the range is very short
Trick question. Richter is always better because "Take this" is more annoying
But Simon has a Julius skin, making him the best choice.
@@seovania9601 but he isn't sexier
Richter is the best not-girl waifu
WiiLord95 Simon is also worse because he looks like a 40 year old he-man
ThomasEyeThink that’s called a husbando
Simon is looks like a Part 3 Jojo character, and Richter looks like a Part 4 Jojo character.
@Justray damn chill
Richter kinda bordering Part 2 for me tbh.
Richter is literally Joseph Joestar
@@iTotalityXyZ you mean Ike
No the hell he doesn’t stop fucking putting jojo into everything you fucking dweeb
It's kind of weird that Link's bombs blow up when lit on fire when they weren't affected by fire in breath of the wild. (At least, I'm pretty sure they weren't anyway)
They detonate with blue fire, funnily enough.
Holy water can destroy bombs.
But I prefer richters appearance
King 👑
Dweeb..
I've always thought of Echos being one's stronger and slower and the other is faster. Does this tend to be true? In this case, I imagined Simon to be the stronger one.
Nope
Simon is the OG so I choose him over richter.
Atta boy
but they gave Simon Richter's moveset, what a lack of originality
@@marioleon86 it don't matter
But simon looks like a 50 year old he man while richter just doesn’t. And “take this” is way better than grunting
@@marioleon86 the only moves that Simon stole from Richter are the Whip Dash, the Downkick, the Uppercut, and the Backflip. Simon actually had moves of his own before Symphony of the Night was released: the Stationary Whip Twirl, the Whip Ledge Swing, and the Multidirectional Whip Attacks.
At first I thought Simon is more faster and hits harder for the B moves while Richter is a superior with the whip.
Be honest. You’re here from Caleb aren’t you?
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nope
Richter is hotter. That’s the only difference that matters
Lelouch Vi Britannia I 100% agree
Tea
I disagree!
Not gonna lie you have the big gey
Agreed on all fronts
I came here to see if Caleb was right that they were the same character. Wow. He wasn't kidding.
YESSIR CALEBCITY
SaveAsUntitled I have 3 questions, 1. when or if you do ryu or ken, may you please explain what makes ken an echo and dr Mario and pichu and young link non echos, 2. why did it look like Richter's cross went farther than simons at 1:34 and 1:41 or is it just me and 3. out of all the echos, who is your favorite
You can adjust how far the cross flies and they probably did that by accident
Simon is the goat, my man's got that gain richter is just Michael Jackson with a headband
dude, I just play richter because I think he's hotter than simon
Simon over Richter anyday bruh
They also do have slightly diffrent hurtboxes during taunts.
Simon is a great character for starters and people who didn't play smash for a long time
This is also a lore accurate change. In case anyone isn't to familiar with him, richter was the strongest member of the belmont family due to him being not just physically but magically attuned. Which explains his holy water being an aura type of attack.
Simon’s holy water is hot, but Richter himself is hotter.
Does the cross from ritcher travels more? Or is just my imagination
You're not alone...i was going to say something if i didn't find a comment on it.
@@nikketasnowden the cross goes a greater distance if you hold b
Trevor Jones It goes greater distance if you flick the left joystick, you mean?
@@AlphaReaper69 no, hold b longer
@@trevorjones7897 look at Richter in tips
1:34 Simon's Cross boomerang just went a lot less distance than Richter's did. Is that something that you can change the distance on, kind of like Dedede's gordos?
What's all this hate with Simon lol. They're practically the same. Plus, Simon has cooler hair.
Yes he does and also he looks like a warrior
Simon got that mom walk down....
"What a terrible night to wear a purse."
Hero now adds to the characters with ice moves.
I prefer Richter because I like his victory poses more.
Ice climber looks so cute.
1:35
1:41
WAIT IS THE RANGE OF THEIR SIDE B DIFFERENT?
no he smash input the side b
Could have sworn Simon's whip is stronger
Simon all the way, because orange fire > blue fire
Plus Simon is not as impure as Richter.
I'm interested in the differences between captain falcon and ganondorf for next vid
Sartorius, I mean it’s not that hard to tell when you play both
Ganon is not an echo of the Cap'n. All of his A attacks have different animations and properties and he has a sword now. Only the specials are similar.
@@Mevestos Only his down and up special really.
@@Mevestos but they both have the same aereals, tilds and specials with only different properties....
Whoosh
What about blue pikmin? Isn't it that Richter aura doesn't affect blue pikmin
I like how people tried to justify Richter somehow being better than simon yet litterally richter only has an advantage in the olimar mu and Simon has a overall better down b, simon is legit better
The Nikkerman I mean not necessarily, olimar is better than link and in every other mu it doesn’t actually matter (there’s no way it’ll actually be noticeably useful against freezing moves). Also richter is hotter.
@@midknight7942 Maybe Link, but not Young Link
Hold up at 1:33 simon and richters side b have different lengths of when they go i saw simons being shorter and richters being longer
Seb’s show they don’t he just held b longer for Richter
@@ogreman-lll-957 this was made to months ago how did you think i haven't realized this
Seb’s show well 2 months isn’t that long plus nobody else responded
@@ogreman-lll-957 2 months is actually pretty long especially with the virus going around also you do not need to feel like you need to answer someone now end of conversation i do not want to argue any more
Seb’s show well you should’ve deleted it or just say you knew when I responded. I’m just trying to help
I mean id take this over peach and her daisy pallet swap
Peach and Daisy have differences.
Daisy has more base knock back with turnips.
Peach's knock back grows more than daisy's with higher damage%
@@Jiambo really? Where is the source of this bcuz ive heard of this prior
@@RobertrulezDa1st
I just watched a vid on it before checking out this one.
It's pretty new
@@Jiambo vid link?
ruclips.net/video/am8iSHxwgSQ/видео.html
TAKE THIS!
BEGONE!
@@PhazerXP YOU DONT BELONG IN THIS WORLD!
Ok, then why is my Simon at 12m gsp and I can’t get richter out of 9m?
CalebCity?
Richter is far better noted as the greatest Belmont by Canon okay greatest skill set but Simon just simply copies Richter and tries to take credit because of his proverbial senority
But Simon tho
How can Simon copy richter when Simon came first. He was the original.
@@dungeonwallmeat2113 Yeah, Simon and Richter are literally Day and Night. Simon brought his lineage out of the darkness, Richter got his lineage BACK into the Darkness. Why else would the Morris Clan take the Vampire Killer whip until 1999, when Julius Belmont shows up?
I don't the the voice thing is a real gameplay difference. Because voices depend on languages.
One can detonate almost every single item in the game while the other cant. Maybe a choice when playing a party game with friends.
why isn't it just a costume lol
Will you be doing clones as well like Mario and Dr. Mario or fox and falco?
dr mario isn't a clone
none of those are clones
SIMON IS BEST BOY
Thats an odd way to spell Roy
Are you serious?
In this video and others, it seems like Richter's Side B is faster than Simon's. And does it travel farther?
But I'm certain you can throw the cross harder and therefore make it travel faster with both characters, so perhaps my observation is incorrect. In any case, the demonstrations of Simon vs. Richter I have seen (including this one) have seemed a little misleading when it comes to their Side Bs.
Ken and Ryu?
- Ryu's hadoken does more damage than Ken's
- Ken's shoryu hits three times, does more damage than Ryu's, and has no sweet spot.
- Ken walks/runs slightly faster than Ryu
- Ryu's tatsu hits once and can kill. Ken's tatsu hits multiple times.
- Ryu's half circle special is red fireball. Ken's half circle special is crazy kicks.
- Ken has an additional command for his crazy kicks.
- focus attacks have different animations.
- For standard attacks, heavy neutral A, light and heavy f-tilt, f-smash, n-air, and u-air are different for both characters.
Minor detail is that Kirby can use Ryu's half circle special (red fireball) on inhale, but cannot use Ken's half-circle special (crazy kicks).
Doesn’t Ricters side b also fly out further and for longer?
Black369Ace You actually control the distance by how hard you flick the stick.
Doesn’t one of them last longer than the other?
Black369Ace they don’t he just held b longer for Richter
how is Richter Simon's echo fighter, it should be the other way around, Simon copied Richter's moveset
Calebcity made me look it up.
Richter is still my favourite, looks cooler generally and i was never fond of Simons clothing
If only they brought Chronicles Simon.
@@raphaelsorel6907 i agree ♡
@@sapphicquartz I like Chronicles Simon too, but ai can understand why people like the Conan look.
@@robbiewalker2831 I think his Conan look is the best.
nah i think Simon is cooler
Watch the Aura Power!!
More Ultimate content plssss
Yes but Richters final smash can hit multiple enemies and simon can’t
Richter is better because his victory animations are better
reupload i see
Also the fact that their Up B and running speed are different lengths and speed
nope
I choose both Belmonts
They actually have two differences
Which is their down b and Simon's name sounds like semen and Richter's dosent...
But Richter sounds like hipster and looks like Johnny depp
@@Termin8or_115 oh yeah
That's pretty nifty
So many missed opportunities with richter, dark samus, dark pit and daisy.... If u put in echo fighters u could really make unique and cool fighters out of them, really lazy imo. Best example for 2 unique characters are mario and dr.mario, way different, just kinda similar and both really cool in a very different way.
Their aerials have different angles. Richter also has higher run speed.
No.
But you can angle the forward air and back air diagonally up or down with both Belmonts. And they have the same speed.
Phazer XP - Ultimate Simon Main knockback angles is what I meant.
Steve TnT
1:34-1:44 it looks like Richter has longer Cross range, interesting
That just depends on how much you hold the button
Nima T they don’t he just held b longer for Richter
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It looks like Richter's side special has more range
Here because Calebcity😂
I never noticed that simon doesn't throws his cross very far
That's exactly like the original Castlevania, his cross is effective but it doesn't go very far
Same thing for Harmony of despair, his cross is insanely powerful but the range is very short
they both throw their cross the same distance
@@Noah-yp6yy Yeah I noticed that, at the time I posted this comment I was new to smash so I didn't really now
Nigga talk about genesis