Destiny 2: NEW UPDATE & SECRETS! 6th Subclass, Titan Monster, Savathun Return & Easter Eggs
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- Destiny 2: New Easter Egg, Titan Secret, Savathun Return, 6th Element & Final Shape
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In this Destiny 2 video we’ll be rounding up a bunch of the most interesting details, secrets and new updates in the Lightfall expansion. We’ll be discussing how Bungie changed development plans to create the Final Shape expansion and move content from Witch Queen into Lightfall, the origins of the new strand subclass element, 6th subclass and final darkness element, Savathuns return, a secret enemy on titan, the veil and many more easter eggs and mysteries surrounding Lightfall #Destiny #Destiny2 #Lightfall
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So what would you rate Lightfall out of 10? 🤔
Coming from WQ can't give it anything higher than a 7.
I only bought the season. Let me tell you for just $10 it’s amazing. At $80 I give it a 4 outta 10.
5 to 6 as unlocking strand was super boring as I'm not a fan of the rocky training montage,and Nimbus with his cringe lines felt weird like a self insurt made wrong. I didn't really understand any of the story expect calus being upset because he's the witnesses puppet.
6.....they shoulda killed Nimbus and gave us the other guy for his final year
@@HAIDARAVEN exactly would've been way better
RIP Commander 😢
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May we salute him and push forward to the future
How little we knew, that it was **his** Light to be the one that falls...😢
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🫡 RIP may he rest in peace
Oh wow. It all makes sense now. I was kinda wondering all the same stuff. Especially how osteo striga seems like it goes with strand so well! I wish we could have had it in the witch queen now.
It's definitely interesting to think that Lightfall was actually the story that was added later on, and The Final Shape was always planned. It seems they just switched the names
what is the grenade consume ability you used on warlock? ive never heard of it
I looked up the lore for the flower game. It made what happened to the witness and the traveler
Make sense...
So after final shape, will there be more content, or that’s it for destiny 2?
What do you mean Drifter hadn't been around? He was a main character in Season of Plunder only two seasons ago.
I want the Taken King back, I need him back. Best expansion by far was TTK.
All I’m going to say is when destiny 1 was supposed to have 6 subclasses originally but activision axed that one.
Don't they say in the campaign that strand is a byproduct of the veil?
i bet final shape will be a 2 parter
Honestly if they focused on refining the campaign and just made strand a single mission that you unlock it but you unlock more stuff for it by doing the campaign would've made it better. I just don't think subclasses should be woven in the main campaign. Yes, draw attention to it, don't make it the priority. I think TTK did this best when each class got their new subclasses via the one mission and got a massive tutorial on it via just killing shit ton of stuff
I hope we get Titan and another new location since Titan already did exist. Titan was a small location but man did it feel awesome the waves just crashing everywhere to the mysterious big worm lurking underneath us it felt so interesting and eerie.
titan will probably end up being a seasonal location, and honestly its so small that they could have just brought the entire planet back in full.
I have such vivid memories of being on Titan during the release of the game and I believe Xur was on Titan week 1 or 2
Old planets > new planets.
Honestly I can see titan coming back but bigger like with loads of tunnels and caverns.
@@viktorreznov6425 Fr brings back so many memories
Strand originally being made for the witch queen makes a lot of sense. The subclass is very similar to Hive magic.
Poison (Or Soulfire as its actually called) most likely has a connection to Strand.
I've heard from somewhere before that strand was the perfected version of the hive magic
Osteo Striga looks a lot like a Strand weapon
@@ronintair that’s makes sense considering I think the hive can actually see the weave.
Also it would've worked really well In the witch queen campaign because of how much verticality there was. There's far less of that in neomuna it's really sad. Bungie made it seem like it was actually gonna be a sprawling city not a business park
What annoys me is that it is never explained how "the link" that the Ghost does with the veil allows the witness to cut a fat slice out if the Traveller. Does the Witness just stand there waiting for hours?
yes
Would be funny.
All the Guardians around The Witness:.... So is he gonna do something or...?
The Witness:... Hurry the fuck up Calus. You are making me lose my drip.
That's going to be explained, we aren't supposed to know that yet.
@@Kjf365 I doubt it tbh, the whole campaign seemed to be held together by threads. The veil was never explained, they brushed off our ghost being taken over etc.
@Gabesbane Our ghost being taken over is nothing new. That's happened every DLC since Shadowkeep with the exception of WQ.
As for your claim, after the campaign the characters are literally all saying how important it is that we find out what the Veil is and how to undo whatever happened. The Deterministic Chaos quest is literally ALL ABOUT IT.
About the Vex being our enemy forever: I actually believe that Asher Mir will become a Vex Mind of sort and lead his own sect of the Vex and help us out in the end.
After all, he kinda did become one with the Pyramidion back in S11 and we saw how he could "possess" Vex Harpies to communicate with us like in BL or Splicer. So yeah, I could definitely see a whole sect of these friendly Vex being led by our boy Asher.
Spoilers:
There's also a vex mind hiding within the cloud ark rn, as we found out in the winterbite quest. It wants to stay srperate from the vex, which is incredibly strange.
@@TheCabalOnMars Perhaps Asher was a bit more busy behind the scenes than we thought?
@@TheCabalOnMars Yeah, I forgot that, but it is true, although I do not believe it is Asher. After all, that Vex Mind was found and hidden by the first Cloud Strider decades ago. Still, that could serve as an avatar for Asher in the future, a commander of sorts.
In the vexcalibur quest you actually see projections of asher all around the cloud network. hes still kicking about for sure.
Fantastic insight. I like this theory
I would overall keep the same sentiment as many others, Lightfall felt like a cutscenes interrupted by a tutorial for Strand. I would account the story to more of what we typically would get from a season, during its initial run, before the finale answers some of the questions it poses. Given Bungie is giving us a quest next season that is supposed to provide more detail on Neomuna and the Veil, this seems fairly likely. Similar to how last season we had rebuilding Rasputin and then nothing for weeks after the cutscenes in which Mara warned us of summoning Xivi Arath with War and then Rasputin ultimately sacrificing himself to save humanity just my take.
TLDR: Bungie gave us a seasonal story, without it's conclusion, for an expansion, and interrupted a cutscenes with a Strand tutorial.
Damnit……..that’s exactly my thoughts. I didn’t mind the story but it definitely felt like a weekly “season” model rather than an expansion story.
them giving us the story as seasonal content that they will then remove 6 months after its finished is the most bullshit ass bullshit
In terms of the new subclass, we should look at the previous darkness subclass' and what Osiris said about them. Light governs the material plane and the darkness governs the metaphysical plane, such as thought and feelings. Stasis was defined as control of the mind to control others, in other words discipline of the mind. Strand is one that seems to be the opposite of stasis and in that it's true. Strand needs one to relax and let the body take control and let the mind run free. I suppose strand can be described as instinctual, letting ones body flow allows it to react and move at its own pace (exhaustion debuff).
Stasis, control of the mind; Strand, body takes control; the final subclass might be something that controls the spirit, in other words something akin to taken. But thats just a guess
I would love to see a taken subclass, I think a class built around summoning taken as Allies or taking enemies and making them fight for you could be really interesting.
I always thought we'd eventually get a Siva based subclass but now it seems too similar to strand
Been saying that since September 2015. :)
With a roaming melee super for titans riiiiiight?
I feel like Taking is way too antithetical and *way* too fucked up for us, story-wise
@@ladyxera5231 I means we go on entire crusades, so....
Plus you can't hurt the feelings of something you psychically f-ed up so bad it can't feel
I agree with the whole Strand bit. I personally think the mission for Strand should have taken place in the Throne World but after or in the middle of the campaign as a separate quest because Lightfall focused too much on Strand. It felt less like a penultimate expansion to Light and Darkness and more like a Guide to Strand
Also if Titan does come back, I hope Io, Mercury and Red War Mars return with it because as someone who never got to play Year One of Destiny 2, it'd be great for them to bring back all unplayable content instead of just returning a part of a location like they did with the Enclave
for now all i want is a cinematic hommage for zavala and a statue for him . he didnt die in the game but it just feels like a ghost or a memory of lance that deserve a proper tribute from the game and not just the players
Nah, replace that nerd. Shouldn't have put his health on the line with that jab. Now Zacala will never be the same, all over a 99.98% survival rate.
I think the best call would be to make an exotic and make lance's guardian cannon in some fashion that uses said exotic weapon with a quote by his guardian
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I think poison being a strand effect would actually be a good idea
I always felt like poison had to go somewhere, thorn always felt like foreshadowing a darkness power, even if we never ended up using the darkness (which obviously we did)
I just feel like with the way poison was described with necrotic grips (I watched a byf video) It didn’t… really… go anywhere- like what is poison and why is it related to the darkness?
I could be wrong tho idk
Hive magic/soulfire would be why it's Darkness related. Hive draw on a sort of conceptual magic. Much like Plato's conception of the world of the gods, the Hive draw upon a reality where abstract concepts (e.g. death, protection) can be realized for their purposes.
@@baitposter sure but I do still think it had a lot of foreshadowing as a subclass that just didn’t happen seemingly because bungie wanted to be different and not “do what everyone thinks they’re gonna do” as they said in the Lightfall vidoc
Which I think is an… odd move
I like lightfall and strand but this does bother me😭
@@honeybeerose4108 I do agree with this but personally I think Strand as is currently is way better than a poison subclass. Poison IS overdone and a bit boring now. Strand is unique and very fun imo. I still honestly think poison can be written off as a Hive thing, maybe even a hive "subclass" if they ever went that route in the distant future. All of the similarly Poison based gear are related to hive heavily, especially Thorn and Osteo, and Touch of Malice in a way of draining the user's lifeforce instead. They're Weapons of Sorrow (inherently hive).
If they went the Poison Subclass route it would HAVE to be the hive subclass. All instances of this green poisony stuff we have IS a hive thing. And I think making a Hive Subclass as one of the Darkness Subclasses (when the Hive are the followers of the Darkness, not inherently darkness) would be a mistake
Strand was originally a posion subclass but it got cut from witch queen
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With deepsight replacing the spots we'd grapple in
I've heard so many other content creators say exactly what you've said, but how you explain it and present the information is by far the best explanation by far!!! Keep killing it and keep up the great content.
I was expecting to have another Red War in the city. I was kinda let down that we didn’t have an all hands on deck situation at the tower
Same. Shoulda just made Destiny 3. A dlc will never have the same effect as a new game.
@@Banana-Boi D3 won’t really make much sense to create until the next generation of consoles come out in 2028 or whenever it is. It makes a lot more sense to continue the storyline and make D2 as good an elaborate as possible until they can take advantage of new technology and make a 3rd game.
@@iDropPhats No way it's that far away. Sony bought them specifically for Destiny. I'm thinking a year or 2 after final shape, D3 will launch with a vastly improved engine. It's crazy to think we are still on an old halo engine currently.
@@googleplaynow9608 That could very well be the case. My only thought is does it make sense at a macro level in the business to continue even on a new engine and create an entirely new game when what we have now works for what the game is. Destiny is in a bit of a weird spot right now because there’s only 2 years of foreseeable content before D2’s “endgame,” so to speak, and 5 years before the next generation of console releases. That 3 year gap imo is better filled with content than having a new game come out that ends up being reoptimized just a few years later, or even outdated by then. We’re talking in years though so anything is possible…
@@googleplaynow9608 And also remember that Sony bought in because D2 was profitable, not because it wanted to further the story and content. Sony’s best interest is profit and of course content drives profit, but wouldn’t be so sure of Sony needing the devs to come out with a new game when what we have now is creating so much revenue already. A D3 release before the next console release is detrimental to profits, especially considering destiny lost players to the D2 release.
I can back this theory of savathun returning cause oddly enough the portal the witness opened and entered has a kaleidoscope visual effect, if you go to the helm and watch the effect circulate at one point during the visual effect a shape that looks incredibly like savathuns body shape can be seen, coincidence? Planned? Could be either but im convinced that savathun will join us in the upcoming seasons or the next expansion with her light brood but its just speculations and theories at the point in time only time will tell.
Also
R.I.P lance you will never be forgotten as our beloved zavala ❤
Meds.....now.
😊 I'm betting the Witness has a reserve army, like the Tormentors and Disciples that we've barely seen. Again remember that the Veil was originally a whole darkness race fighting for the Witness. It was likely a Tormentor that destroyed the Black Armory during the Collapse.
To take down this army we're going to have to unite all of the other races to fight alongside us. The Cabal, Awoken, and Eliksni have already joined us. Savathune is definitely coming back, so we can almost certainly count on the Hive becoming an ally. Shame Rasputin is gone, he would have constituted an entire ally unto himself. A Vex faction are likely in the works too. Asher is in their network, the first cloud strider created a friendly Vex mind in the Cloud Ark. Osiris talked about "aberrant" vex in season 19. Lastly, I think the Scorn are going to be redeemed. We know that Ficrall is still out there somewhere, and that it's Crow's sorta ultimate goal to save him and the Scorn. They teased it back in Season 17 on the Leviathan.
Nothing said or done by Bungie is ever coincidental.
Imagine just walking around the tower and hive guardians are just chatting it up with the cryptarc
Yeah nah im not going to forgive the monsters that have literally killed multiple Guardians, caused Genocide on a Galactic Scale and tried to steal the Travele.r
@@jakespacepiratee3740 if only you could understand the complexity in the situation more than just "Oh its a hive fuck him" no one and I mean no one could have saw us working with the cabal back in year 1 D1 but here we are, shit happens, people change, it's our responsibility to change with them for the greater good
The tower is the hive guardians loot cave
Something about a million deaths not being enough
@@kermitthehermit794 The Hive have never changed though. They have always killed us on sight.
I'm hoping for the yellowish blackish darkness energy for our 6th and final subclass. Maybe that worm god on Titan and oryx will become teachers for us on how to wield the darkness after savathun returns, just a theory. Im mixed on the story, while it's cool it wasn't as good as witch queen but I love the strand subclass.
That sounds cool, or we learn our own version of taken power. Maybe take enemies? Duplicate ourselves? Over shields?
Maybe not Oryx, he’s canonically dead. Kings Fall and VOG aren’t part of the story, they’re just back for the sake of a raid. But Savathun? Definitely. All I need to say is Immaru is still hiding.
You mean Resonance? I do believe that will be the last Subclass but it will have a different name what that name would be i don't know but since there adding Darkness Subclasses that start with "S" the next one might be something starting with S as well.
@@robbiestafford6889 savathun did say in her lies and truths oryx will rise again so is possible and oryx's body did drift away into space.
@@rockerspaceman8641 she did say the taken king will rise again, which yes, is oryx, but who's to a say a new taken king will rise in his place, maybe one on our side, maybe we become the taken king and the taken power is our last subclass?
My thoughts on Lightfall are the same. I'm enjoying Strand and some of the QoL changes a lot, but the story kind of killed the experience. When you consider how important Lightfall was supposed to be to the entire story arc of the franchise, Bungie couldn't have picked a worse time to release a filler DLC.
It's not even just that it's filler it's lazy filler. It was written so poorly yet the things they could've done to fix it are so blatantly obvious. Just more dialogue explaining things show us why things are important. Hell I would've been fine with a 3 minute long cutscene of just pure exposition about the veil and the witness. Bungie did the bare minimum. Everything else so far I've really enjoyed and the raid is very fun and interesting even if it is one of the easiest.
@@shquankinket8068 for real it’s incredibly lazy, yet this expansion is, at least from what I know, the most expensive expansion to date. Idc about inflation this inflation that, they’re overcharging for a lack of content and I simply will not buy into it. Sadly tho their pre-order BS got so many ppl locked in 100$ down without knowing the actual story, so instead of admitting that they wasted their money they continue to defend bungie’s actions. It’s so sad and gives bungie ALL the power in their community relationships.
@@willtaylor6793 taken king was what 30 or 40 dollars? I can't remember exactly but that had a pretty good story and a shitload of content. Pretty much an entire year worth of content so many exotics, post campaign content for so long. I think 4 crucible maps I'm not sure. Sure there was a content drought but that's because it wasn't drip fed. Also I'm really annoyed that Bungie doesn't give us a full selection of weapons for raids anymore. Even for reprised raids we only get 6 it's so lazy. There is a new shotgun for this season that is literally just an uncommon that they turned into a legendary same name and everything. I'ma stop ranting now but yeah they are too good at getting away with being lazy just because they are gods at marketing
Deepsight stuff in Throne World is 100% how we were meant to unlock Strand... But was delayed... It's so stupid overall how they handled it in Lightfall.
im assuming the next darkness subclass is going to be the resonant stuff we see with rhulk and calus. the pyramid murals in rhulks pyramid have icons showing 3 hues to the right of a big pyramid/traveler picture, and the 3 colors are stasis blue, strand/deepsight green, and a yellow/orange
Except both Darkness subclasses so far have been direct color opposites to Light subclasses. Only one missing an opposite is Arc. Arc is cyan. Cyan's opposite it red.
I think we’re in a rough patch right now because of this little bump in the road but I think that the final shape will be everything we’ve been asking for and more. (Hopefully)
I don't wanna get my hopes up. If we think about Bungie's batting average since Forsaken, getting excited has pretty solid chances of being a let down.
In writing, endings are some of the hardest things to do well. They're gonna have to really pull it all out to recapture the magic they've been scuttling for a while now and send off Light & Darkness with a good bang.
It's nice to know we're possibly going to 'lose' this war. That'd make stuff interesting, and would open up for a sort of 'Destiny 2: Part 2' situation where we're in a second dark age or something.
I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm done with that when it comes to Destiny 2.
Kinda wish they didn't release any DLC and just focused on small seasonal content until final shape so final shape gets more focus
bro we paid $50 for the worst and shortest dlc yet😂 when are we gonna be fr
This is how WOW players started
Love your videos as always, keep up the great work.
My take is this one. We got quality of life changes in the game that everybody's been asking for too. Yes, the story was a little bit confusing, but I think there's a bigger picture behind it that we don't know yet because we're only in week 3 of the new expansion. As long as the seasonal content is better than it's ever been. That's what matters the most to me and I already feel it's to step in the right direction as I only have to do one seasonal week content. I don't need to do it 20 times as it stands bungie actually respecting everybody's time and effort putting into the game. Trying to put FOMO a little bit out of the equation is really really good now. Having that said, story could have been way better. We all agree with that
W take
Yeah but asking for the price Lightfall is scummy asf. The QoL update and everything else that was good, wasn't even thanks to Lightfall, it was just the free yearly update and changes. Lightfall itself is horrid, the changes were grand.
@@wimbobimbo940 I found lightfall to be tons of fun despite the story not being great l. Personally I just want to have fun. And we'll it was fun. Definitely not witch queen but still destiny content
Think there’s going to be a lot of quality of life changes before final shape comes
@@wimbobimbo940 that's your take and I'll respect that. But again we are 3 weeks in. Last year's season of the plunder almost made me quit. As long as I keep having fun this is better for me. I'm not trying to speak for everyone. But I'm having fun.
A subclass built around taking control of enemies either immediately or shunting them into a pocket dimension and summoning them later would be really difficult to balance.
Imagine pvp😭
Wow, just the stories from that alter of reflection quests on the throne world had more lore and story than the entirity of lightfall. I just don't get why they barely gave us anything in lightfall and thought it was acceptable.
Taken would be amazing. It gives me strong "invocation" vibes... Imagine titan bringing phalanx to fight cqc with him, hunter bringing fallen snipers to use like long range turrets and warlocs bringing mages to help them putting spells... 👌
honestly I dont think it will be like that but probably more of you can turn bad enemies into good or maybe in pvp spawning a deception or something idk
Wouldn't make sense lore wise.
trash
@@xsyllvr Wouldn't be surprised if we gained temporary control over taken magic after killing xivu, considering the drifter already has a light understanding on controlling the taken, he'd be the guy who helps us earn our powers, and the one who masters it first
@@titan1umtitan The taken he controls aren’t real taken. They’re fake taken lol. The machine thing that he was gifted by the nine by makes the fake taken.
But yea I see what you’re saying
I'd love for Oryx to return. Still my favorite Expansion. Felt really game changing.
it wont happen.
they already brought his raid back.
I think Strand works just fine as a Darkness subclass, conceptually. The Darkness is all about the mind and consciousness, so a psychic weave power fits right in with that concept.
However I totally agree that it feels shoehorned into Neptune. It makes no sense that it was just... there, for no reason. The idea that we were supposed to get it from the Relic on Mars, which had recently returned from being banished into a Darkness Anomaly, makes a ton more sense.
I honestly didn't feel like it was there for no reason. The idea that all these people are living in a virtual mainframe kinda vibes psychic brainwaves to me. Would probably have made more sense in savathun's throne world, but still I felt like it still made sense, especially if there is a powerful light artifact thats just been washing over this world of constant digital psyches.
They claim that Strand is there on Neomuna because of its closeness to the Veil, but how would an artifact related to the Traveler be exposing a Darkness subclass?
@@twelved4983 idk. maybe the closer you get to the veil the worse it works, and since there is so much psychic connection (because of the digital networked people or whatever) that the psychic connection darkness energy is in higher concentration, where if the veil didn't exist hiding it, we might see it more in other places too. but yeah idk man, im just guessing that the veil is like, the roots of some giant world tree that hides the higher planes of existence from us on this plane, and also acts as a sort of portal, cause witness had to have it to open the portal on the traveler. (maybe to portal into the dimension the traveler truly exists in? like an ascendant plane?)
I’m bummed we had no part at all in the campaign where we jump through a window while being chased and grapple away like Spider-Man as shown in the trailer
@@twelved4983 Maybe something to do with the "everyone uploaded their minds" situation? Veil was originally the Darkness race (concept), so perhaps it's feeding on people's minds?
I feel like the taken power is something on its own like what mara’s paracausal power is…Aztecross was talking about how that orange glow from the pyramid called Luster could be the 6th subclass
I HIGHLY doubt we will ever have a story as good as The Witch Queen. It was a lightning in a bottle moment that just can't be captured again.
god i hope you're wrong
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Same but...
On a side note, i do like the fact that strand's story was reworked into something that guardians discover and 'take' on their own, as somewhere else we are told that darkness powers are taken, not given.
for me its a 5/10 because I'm very interested in the lore and story of the Destiny Franchise since D1. Its the main reason I come back, but if Bungie now sucks at the part of this Game that I love then there is not much left to do for me
Same except I stopped giving them my money when I realized the "seasonal content" was just a slow drip to my wallet and every seasons story is 90% irrelevant to the bigger picture of lore. I get the feeling they're purposefully tanking the narrative to save time and effort since alot of destiny player just like to shoot and loot. They proved to me they don't care about lore with Saint and Osiris, For years in D1 it was said saint looked to Osiris as a father and Osiris seen him as a son. Now they're lovers 😂😂😂
@@Jake42100 I don’t know about that. The seasons established our current alliances with the awoken, eliksni and cabal. They allowed for the tense arrival of the darkness. Savathun was able to appear and be built up in game.
My thoughts on the price is since lightfall was so last minute in the development cycle they had to pour a ton of money they got from sony in order to finish in time, and since they had no plans for the year they also poured some of that money into engine development to make getting our planets back possible starting with a partial return with season of the seraph that being mars ( that's why we haven't fully gotten mars because it was essentially a test run on the engine ) now we are getting titan back next season while they finish the engine changes rn and most likely we are getting a d1 planet the season after or possibly io since we have a new seed of light or whatever it's called basically they balled out for this years content and we're picking up the tab
Venus Venus Venus Venus
I have no idea why everyone says lightfall costs more. Witch queen was $100 for the deluxe all access for a year. Lightfall was $100 for the year. Same.
Witch queen was 50 and lightfall was 60. Still though after everything I believe it amounted to roughly the same amount.
@@christiand5954 light fall was 50 dollars for the standard edition
@@airtrs537 oh. Nevermind then
@@christiand5954 I think it's because Lightfall included the season pass as well, so it was $50 for the campaign plus an additional $12.50 for the season pass (CAD pricing), which is dumb imo because why would you advertise Lightfall as if the season came with it if it costs just as much as buying an expansion + a season pass seperately?
@@hue_lord_4208 I don't think that's accurate. The version I got at least was only $50 and came with the season (US).
Story wise - 4/10, but gameplay is 10/10 for sure, strand is amazingly fun to play
I played through Witch Queen *after* Lightfall (got the previous xpacs on the deep sale after playing Lightfall for a while), and so many things between these two expacs makes sense now.
*So many things, I tell you*
Strand being the biggest one. When you mentioned the duct tape maneuver that was deep sight and how that could have very easily been Strand instead of hidden platforms, it really clicked at that point. Recreating entire levels would have taken so much more work than just tacking in some jumpy spots.
And now I don't know how I feel. Piss on Bungie for severely over-marketing and overestimating themselves, but... well, I'm sure it wasn't totally on purpose. I just wish they could have spent a little more time making things make sense, and making Neomuna/Neptune not feel so disconnected from the rest of the system.
The price of Lightfall was a bit bullshit, too, not gonna lie.
This Game makes us all both Victim....and Perpetraitor. We, more than any...suffer both fates. I want to be free.
A legend returns. Good to have you back, Andrew.
I hope the third Darkness subclass is not the Taken power. I would be disappointed. It would not fit with the way they typically oppose their respective Light counterparts either. Something that opposes Arc which energises things would be more like a Drain or Leech effect. A Red subclass. Vampiric effects and such.
If you look at how Savathun's Ghost teleports away, the wisps it leaves behind are nearly 100% the same as the "strands" we see and manipulate throughout Lightfall
Strand is darkness, all those threads we saw in that mission are of light
Can't be the same thing
I hope we get some dialogue in the next campaign;
Savathun tells the player after they receive their Taken subclass "Your power has *taken* shape"
"your power has taken shape, FINAL SHAPE"
I can honestly see us losing in the final shape leading to the last expansion if they go that route
Well we already lost since Lightfall represents Infinity War so with Final Shape that will be Endgame were we find the witness and kill it.
I'm hoping for either a taken subclass or the orange darkness energy. I'm leaning towards the orange because of that mural we saw in Rhulk's pyramid.
It would’ve been nice if they just patched a few missions into witch queen and gave us strand that way instead. Light fall seems pointless. Maybe they should’ve just done one red war type mission but on steroids after the black fleet arrived, with the witness completing dominating us. Then we go get strand from savathun’s throne world and fight the cabal as they invade sol.
Lightblade boss room makes sense now if it was designed for strand grapple, same as how Calus boss fight is a round arena room. Kind of mind blowing tbh
They say in the campaign that the Veil “left behind strand sort of like a stink cloud”
I think now that we're out of the pandemic mode, they can produce a game output that's closer to expectation, I know Final Shape will be great content, also loved the Lightfall content so far
They completely made witch queen, fully from home/remotely, so pandemic mode shouldn’t apply at this point. Lightfall was just one big filler tutorial dlc to buy them time/more money to get to The Final Shape.
@@NeckPUNCHattack Yeah. At this point the pandemic is just a crutch for studio's failures.
Personally I would've been fine with the way we found Strand if it started appearing EVERYWHERE instead of just Neptune. They could've explained it by saying it was related to our constant usage of the Relic and Deepsight. Totally makes sense to me.
Strand is a by product of the veil when using deepsight we unlocked the physic connection to the darkness in terms of strand it’s self. That’s why we saw it and Strand is complete processed super that’s why it’s 80 dollars otherwise it would have been just 40 and I also think the final shape will be 80 again as well.
$80 for a grapple hook…..
@@xCobraCommanderx and a fists of havok reskin...
@Peniley Majorey well it’s a business nothing is getting handed out for free
@Peniley Majorey Strand aint got shit to do with the "deepsight" from witch queen. This guy just spouting nonsense.
Strand is pretty well explained as you play, it's literally the interconnecting fabric of the universe. Osiris and Nimbus extrapolate on that well enough.
@BBB I'm sorry, but I agree with the idea that Strand was meant to be with WQ lol. Look at every time we use deepsight to do a jumping puzzle and replace it with grapple points and it makes total sense.
And then that mission where we got deepsight officially by entering the Europa pyramid, that would have 100% been when we unlocked it in the campaign.
The Drifter's "Taken" aren't real Taken, they're facsimiles born of the Nine's power.
I hate to break it to you, but that cutscene where he summons that Taken Captain came before he got roped in with the Nine. Actually just right before they give him the Haul. Drifter's Taken are actual Taken, it's just that the ones we encounter within the Unknown Space controlled by the Nine are made by the Nine.
The OG guardians dying makes sense if Lightfall was supposed to be apart of Final Shape
I bet the sixth subclass will be nightmare. Maybe it could be called dread or something. The basis of this subclass would be attacking your enemies through their conscious. It would fit with the theme of the darkness as darkness is tied to consciousness. Keywords could be something like: terrorize, control, detonate. Terrorize will drive enemies crazy and have them take more damage and deal less damage. Basically sever+weaken+blind. Control will turn enemies against eachother. Detonate kill/deal a lot of damage too all enemies under your control. I think this could be very likely as all the darkness subclasses are complete colour inverses as their light counterparts. Whatever this next subclass is, it will be red, and thematically the opposite of arc.
Or it will be nothing like this whatsoever
Doubt it as strand is already sort of our psychic ability
@@aznjay94 stasis is also psychic in a way
If you listen to Osiris describe them he talks about how stasis is the manifestation of willpower and will upon others
Why not Resonance considering we've heard and seen the power in use multiple times?
@@BANExLORD or that
Too bad they'll never tell us how things were SUPPOSED to work out. I wonder if we'll get a third darkness subclass. And I wonder if we'll ever figure the vex out
We learned what the Vex are back in Shadowkeep lore entries. At least their origins, being the pattern that always wins in a universe with no imbalances caused by paracausality from every iteration of the flower game the Gardener and Winnower played before time and the universe. Their pattern fell into reality when those two diety-like forces clashed and created the universe, where they landed in the form of basic cells that began to convert their surroundings into more of themselves.
the nine HAVE to have something to do with the final shape. they are the all knowing and are like a last resort when all else fails
Not EVERYTHING will be wrapped up in Final Shape cuase they plan on continuing to release expansions after final shape. They hired a TON of writers to develop the story beyond Final shape. So xivu arath will likely be introduced after final shape.
Any threat that's outside our solar system at this point will likely be shelved until destiny begins the Era of travelling the universe, going to cabal home world ect.
They really dropped the ball with how they handled the DLC. Instead of just delaying and giving us something more substantial, they've cut and pasted all kinds everywhere and it shows. All this confusion and things not making sense in terms of strand now not being a part of the WQ DLC, even though it clearly should have been, is baked into the lore and it's just shoddy overall. I'm having fun with the gameplay aspect of Lightfall, but there are gaping holes and gleaming evidences of cut and paste work where the square peg goes in the round hole.
Bro… Bungie has sooo much money & manpower behind them… c’mon… how could they not “have enough time” ? Isn’t each season like 3 months long??? This is pure greed. Bungie is notorious for cutting up every piece of content we’re supposed to get & repackaging it into smaller pieces with another price tag attached.
The Vex are a bunch of sentient single-cell organisms playing AR Minecraft.
Well, really it's not like they could actually make the Light go away. With how big the outcry was over sunsetting, and with how much work they put into Light 3.0, there's no way they could actually remove the Light subclasses from the game, so we HAD to be able to use them, Traveler or not.
I think this expansion is overall a great one, I brings a lot of amazing stuff to the table it is only really the storytelling that got messed up
Man Bungie is full of shit . All that money and they come up with the joke that is LF . D2 is still the best game in the industry. But the last couple of yrs the devs make the dumbest decisions about the game ever . The last couple of seasons n DLC'S have been bugged . What happened to the quality control of this game. It is so bad anymore.
If titan does return. I'll bet money that the titan monster will be the dungeon final encounter
While the campaign was not that great, I wasn't expecting much as I don't play for the campaign. Strand has been enjoyable so far. The grind after the campaign and other content has been good and very compelling so far. I have enjoyed Lightfall a lot more than Witch Queen so far.
Rip lance. You will always be our titan vanguard.
I don't know why they didn't swap the names so it would be Beyond Light, The Witch Queen, The Final Shape, and then Lightfall.
this makes me super sad. Witch Queen was GREAT and if Strand had been included, it would've been next level.
I still wish we had a poison subclass. Who cares if two subclasses have damage over time? It's like saying no more than one subclass should have explosions.
9:36 imagine we revive savathun then we go to titan and some how bring oryx back to life which oryx gives us taken powers and we fight the witness. Now that would be something I would like to see.
We are literally less than a month into a year-long expansion, and every single person acts like Lightfall is already over. Are you that incapable of waiting for even just the first season to end to see where the story is going?
We also have to acknowledge the possibility that this isn’t supposed to be a filler dlc and they legitimately just made a story this bad. Either way, it doesn’t excuse anything and it definitely doesn’t excuse this being the most expensive dlc for absolutely no reason
Friendly reminder: Bungie decided to split the light fall lore between all 4 seasons, so we HELLA time gated
I hope that after final shape we get a much better saga to continue the franchise
Yea destiny is my favorite game by far and it has so much potential. No other games have the build crafting and super unique pvp. I'm gonna keep playing all depends iftye community doesn't kill the game over a single mid expansion
sad that the og guardians really died, wish they could've mad an actual appearance ingame as like a shaw hawn type character
6:00 Drifter can't control the taken (in the same cutscene we can see that the taken captian that he summoned tried to kill him too)
The traveler is a rogue AI created by the witness. The traveler completed its quest along time ago and the witness is finally reclaiming what is his. Probably why your ghost was so easily manipulated and why the travelers attacks had no effect on him.
This would actually be a rad twist
I think it’s going to be stasis, strand and maybe some form of blight subclass
You don’t post often but no body beats you in destiny secrets, you are the Batman of destiny.
I can't wait for 3 more minutes of cinematics that explain nothing in one year.
Maybe we become the Taken King when we gain that subclass.
I feel as though your analysis has as many plot holes as Lightfall does.
Why did Bungie fuck up so much with strand narration
If I was basing the rating ONLY off of how bad the main narrative was and how long it took for us to finally unlock/obtain/customize strand, it'd be a 1/10, but obviously Lightfall isn't only that.
The gameplay the campaign brought was as good as Witch Queen, and Neomuna has been a LOT of fun to me, regardless of how much I wish it was more vertical. Still better than Throne World and Europa.
The weapons, while reskins, have been a blast to use.
The Shadow Legion, while not as cool as a new race, are entertaining to fight against on higher difficulties.
The New Strike, while only one, is the most fun I've had playing a strike in years.
Strand has also been an absolute blast to use, I only wish it had better supers for Warlock and Titan.
While the raid was short and easy, I still had a blast getting it done in the first 12 hours. Definitely one of the best looking raids imo.
Overall, my experience has been good, and I'd put it at a generous 7/10.
I put Witch Queen at a 9/10*
Bruh 4/10 same old destiny
Asher mir maybe could bring some vex to our side haha
What if the enemy of the traveler is Savathun's ghost, and they're under attack by the hive on titan. That would both allow for Savatun's return, that mission that will explain the veil a bit and where the ghost went.
I love savathún I really hope they bring her back
The Taken King is easily the best Destiny DLC!! 💯
Beyond Light is worse than lightfall 🤷🏽♂️
First of all I missed you doing videos like this mate! And all in all I’ve been with Bungie through the highs and lows. Now is no different, I just hope that they answer some of our questions in the up coming seasons and definitely next expansion.
Strand should have just been a poweer the cloudstriders had. And they taught to us
Makes sense, too much sense for Bungie