So I had Dan at Champion tune my 2019 CB650R the other day. Man, the bike runs totally different now. So much more responsive at the low end and exhilarating through the mid to high ends! I picked up 10 HP at the rear wheel. I wholeheartedly recommend Champion for tuning and if you want your bike to perform better and be easier to ride in a spirited manner... get a system, air filter and tune!
Getting my 2018 Kwaka Z900 fitted with a Power Commander 6 and full dyno tune. Also gonna get a full after market suspension set up fitted. This is a cheaper option than upgrading to a pricey & high maintenance but awesome Aprilia Tuono …
I have a high flow air filter and slip on hindle muffler, I want a tune on the bike but I want to remove the cats first.. could you guys cut out my cats and straight pipe it in house before dyno tuning it? And I also have a Healtech Quickshifter, can you guys tune the shift/cut off times of the quick shifter?
@@ChampionCycle im just saying I wonder how much an aftermarket exhaust really helps on a modern sport bike. The gains are always conflate with a tune. It's possible, even likely, that the exhaust isn't adding much other than cost.
I have a 2021 Ducati Monster 821 Stealth with Termi slip-ons. I want to get it dyno tuned but not sure whether if I should break it in more or do it now. It’s got 1500km and first service complete. Thoughts?
We always recommend having the bike broken in on the dyno. The sooner it gets a dyno beating the better. 🤙🤙 look into the rapid bike tuner for that model. 🚀
Does it matter whether one uses a piggy back module vs flashing the ECU itself? I'm only running a full exhaust and would like to dial it in a bit more as I think I'm running a little lean (based on the condition of the spark plugs). What would you suggest? I'm seeing mixed feedback on this where some people swear by piggy back modules while others standby ECU reflashing after dyno time.
We actually like and use both. Depending the mods a bike has and/or the make and model. We sometimes just use a piggyback tuner to get a good afr and on ya go. But on certain models ie. Very restricted ones (r6, r1, newer zx10, gsxr) etc... we like to use the ecu so that we can due alot more than just fuel tuning.
Hello i just put a coffman slip on shorty exhaust on my k4 gsxr 1000 and due to the oem exhaust built in servo valve i had to take off the servo valve off with the oem exhaust as well after that i experienced a loss of power do you guys think a dyno tune would fix the issue ?
Just curious i have brought a new gsxr600 and it has a full M4 tech 1 system on it with a woolich racing tune on it downloaded from the computer. Would you personally get it on the dyno? Not sure if it will be running lean through the 6 to 9k mark
1000% get it on your local dyno. Downloaded maps are just gambles and more often than not incorrect for your application. Especially the woolich racing mapshare maps as they are uploaded by anyone and everyone.
Odd question maybe... why will mph at the track increase with richer settings? I guess why if the bike makes a few more hp leaner does it not add up to faster times? I have always wanted to ask a legit tuner this question
More fuel essentially means more tq. Tq is what matters. Leaner afr is good to fool clients with high dyno numbers but don't necessarily convert to a faster bike. 💪💪
I have a 2022 zx6r and thinking about doing an ecu flash and dyno tune. I mostly do street riding. Is it worth it? Also what setup would you recommend for street riding? I ran a little here and there but no track time
100% worth tuning. Ask around, do your research and find the best tuner in your area. Worth every penny as long as the tech. Knows exactly what works for your bike.
Ok, so good video but you are not being honest about ECU flashing, better chance of winning the lottery, WTF are you talking about? Shops like Moore Mafia, Superbike Unlimited, Spears, Norton Motorsports etc. are not "kids" with computers. These are shops that race motorcycles and dyno tune the same motorcycles with the same or very similar mods that will yield excellent results. Of course dyno tuning will give the best results for racing but ECU flashing from these shops is no where near, not even fucking close to what you are describing and is perfectly legit for street riding.
Were referring to just flashing and not dyno tuning. Pay attention to the video and try to keep up. Ecu Flashing with dyno tuning is great, we do it daily. We were talking about canned tunes and preloaded maps, not dialed in on a dyno. You might want to brush up on your English or at least your comprehension skills. Pay attention..... smh
You sound like half the people that call into our shop that simply aren't educated enough in this field to understand the differences. It's sad, but at the same time you're not to blame. The forums and internet are to blame for your misinformation. It's OK. You're forgiven. 🤣
@@ChampionCycle The video was very informative but IMO, it lacked accuracy in describing ECU flashing services. Here is Chris Moore discussing his mail in ECU flash service that he and other reputable shops offer. Chris makes the distinction between Dyno tuning, ECU Flashing using a Dyno map, and an ECU flash that will simply disable/enable some settings. So there are different levels of ECU flashing services and should not be lumped together and disregarded as trash. ruclips.net/video/0_uwd5N2r1o/видео.html Another great video from RevZilla about ECU Reflash vs. Power Commander For Engine Tuning. ruclips.net/video/dKoTbkkoo_I/видео.html I've had multiple bikes ECU flashed tuned using mail in services by Chris Moore and Freddy at Superbike Unlimited while I was standing in their office talking to them. Since these shops are in driving distance I drove my ECU out to them instead of mailing it so I know exactly what I'm talking about. I also ECU flash my Mustang Ecoboost using an SCT hand held tuner with custom tunes so I know what ECU flashing vs Dyno tuning is sparky. Watch you are own fucking video, you clearly state "Flash tuning is not tuning." and go on to state that it's like hitting the lottery. The mail in ECU flashing services from Moore Mafia, Norton, Spears and Superbike Unlimited etc is a Dyno map from another bike with the same or similar mods. So mailing your ECU to get flash tuned is not like hitting the lottery unless you are stupid enough to mail your ECU to some kid with a computer, but who the fuck would do that? You make no distinction between an ECU flash tune from Chris Moore and some kid with a computer, you simply lumped all ECU flashing services together which is incorrect and disingenuous. Had you made the distinction between Chris Moore flashing the ECU and some kid with a computer the video would be excellent. Here is Chris Moore discussing his mail in ECU flash service that he and other reputable shops offer. Chris makes the distinction between Dyno tuning, ECU Flashing using a Dyno map, and an ECU flash that will simply disable/enable some settings. So there are different levels of ECU flashing services and should not be lumped together and disregarded as trash.
A proper air fuel ratio. Smoother throttle response. A cooler running engine. A longer lasting engine. Simply put a truly fine tuned machine. Not just a mass produced motorcycle altered negatively by government epa standards and national distribution rules.
THUMBS UP IF YOU THINK A PRO TUNE IS WORTH IT 🤘🏼
So I had Dan at Champion tune my 2019 CB650R the other day. Man, the bike runs totally different now. So much more responsive at the low end and exhilarating through the mid to high ends! I picked up 10 HP at the rear wheel. I wholeheartedly recommend Champion for tuning and if you want your bike to perform better and be easier to ride in a spirited manner... get a system, air filter and tune!
🤙🤙 enjoy dude.
Did you get an ecu flash or a powercommander?
@@Whooooo322 Ecu flash... took about 4 hours, cost $800 cash... bike is fantastic!
Thanks for posting.
Very informative.
Now I'm getting the itch to do mine!
SEND IT Mr Joe 🤘🏼
Thanks for making THIS video of a bone stock Gixxer before and after mods. VERY INFORMATIVE!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥
🤙🤙 thanks brotha
Best video so far. No BS! 😉
Thanks for checking it out dude!
That afr table is mwah! 🤌👄
Thanks dude. 👍👍
Great explanation!! 👌🔥
Getting my 2018 Kwaka Z900 fitted with a Power Commander 6 and full dyno tune. Also gonna get a full after market suspension set up fitted. This is a cheaper option than upgrading to a pricey & high maintenance but awesome Aprilia Tuono …
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Woolich threw ecu will make more I got MWR race filter and aftermarket stacks on MR12 I made 110rwhp
Full M4 but Hindle is really good also
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We actually fully tuned this bike yesterday after a tune up and some ecu mods aswell. It made 116hp.
I have a high flow air filter and slip on hindle muffler, I want a tune on the bike but I want to remove the cats first.. could you guys cut out my cats and straight pipe it in house before dyno tuning it?
And I also have a Healtech Quickshifter, can you guys tune the shift/cut off times of the quick shifter?
Sure dude. no problem !
I wonder how much it would have gained over stock with a tune on the original exhaust
Check out our video: dyno tuning 101. You may find what you're looking for there. 👌👌
@@ChampionCycle im just saying I wonder how much an aftermarket exhaust really helps on a modern sport bike. The gains are always conflate with a tune. It's possible, even likely, that the exhaust isn't adding much other than cost.
I have a 2021 Ducati Monster 821 Stealth with Termi slip-ons. I want to get it dyno tuned but not sure whether if I should break it in more or do it now. It’s got 1500km and first service complete. Thoughts?
We always recommend having the bike broken in on the dyno. The sooner it gets a dyno beating the better. 🤙🤙 look into the rapid bike tuner for that model. 🚀
Does it matter whether one uses a piggy back module vs flashing the ECU itself?
I'm only running a full exhaust and would like to dial it in a bit more as I think I'm running a little lean (based on the condition of the spark plugs).
What would you suggest?
I'm seeing mixed feedback on this where some people swear by piggy back modules while others standby ECU reflashing after dyno time.
We actually like and use both. Depending the mods a bike has and/or the make and model. We sometimes just use a piggyback tuner to get a good afr and on ya go. But on certain models ie. Very restricted ones (r6, r1, newer zx10, gsxr) etc... we like to use the ecu so that we can due alot more than just fuel tuning.
Hello i just put a coffman slip on shorty exhaust on my k4 gsxr 1000 and due to the oem exhaust built in servo valve i had to take off the servo valve off with the oem exhaust as well after that i experienced a loss of power do you guys think a dyno tune would fix the issue ?
Absolutely 100%
Just curious i have brought a new gsxr600 and it has a full M4 tech 1 system on it with a woolich racing tune on it downloaded from the computer. Would you personally get it on the dyno? Not sure if it will be running lean through the 6 to 9k mark
1000% get it on your local dyno. Downloaded maps are just gambles and more often than not incorrect for your application. Especially the woolich racing mapshare maps as they are uploaded by anyone and everyone.
@@ChampionCycle cheers for the reply will do 😊
Odd question maybe... why will mph at the track increase with richer settings? I guess why if the bike makes a few more hp leaner does it not add up to faster times? I have always wanted to ask a legit tuner this question
More fuel essentially means more tq. Tq is what matters. Leaner afr is good to fool clients with high dyno numbers but don't necessarily convert to a faster bike. 💪💪
I have a 2022 zx6r and thinking about doing an ecu flash and dyno tune. I mostly do street riding. Is it worth it? Also what setup would you recommend for street riding? I ran a little here and there but no track time
100% worth tuning. Ask around, do your research and find the best tuner in your area. Worth every penny as long as the tech. Knows exactly what works for your bike.
Have you guys ever dyno tuned Kawasaki Z900RS?
Yes, a few. Including one we built a turbo kit for. 😉😉
How much you charge for tune a bike?
Feel free to call the shop anytime. 🍻
Where are you guys located?
Were in Toronto. Our Addy is on our website www.championcycle.ca
I have the same bike. How much to tune it for a cat delete and smooth out the on /off throttle
Feel free to call the shop anytime. We can chat about your options. Or dm us on Instagram
Have you had a chance to tune an ftr1200?
Yes sir ! 👏
@@ChampionCycle got a video on it? What were the numbers like?
Ok, so good video but you are not being honest about ECU flashing, better chance of winning the lottery, WTF are you talking about? Shops like Moore Mafia, Superbike Unlimited, Spears, Norton Motorsports etc. are not "kids" with computers. These are shops that race motorcycles and dyno tune the same motorcycles with the same or very similar mods that will yield excellent results. Of course dyno tuning will give the best results for racing but ECU flashing from these shops is no where near, not even fucking close to what you are describing and is perfectly legit for street riding.
Were referring to just flashing and not dyno tuning. Pay attention to the video and try to keep up. Ecu Flashing with dyno tuning is great, we do it daily. We were talking about canned tunes and preloaded maps, not dialed in on a dyno. You might want to brush up on your English or at least your comprehension skills. Pay attention..... smh
@@ChampionCycle I was paying attention and you didn't mention that in the video did you? You flat out said ECU flashing which includes Dyno tune map.
You sound like half the people that call into our shop that simply aren't educated enough in this field to understand the differences. It's sad, but at the same time you're not to blame. The forums and internet are to blame for your misinformation. It's OK. You're forgiven. 🤣
@@ChampionCycle
The video was very informative but IMO, it lacked accuracy in describing ECU flashing services.
Here is Chris Moore discussing his mail in ECU flash service that he and other reputable shops offer. Chris makes the distinction between Dyno tuning, ECU Flashing using a Dyno map, and an ECU flash that will simply disable/enable some settings. So there are different levels of ECU flashing services and should not be lumped together and disregarded as trash.
ruclips.net/video/0_uwd5N2r1o/видео.html
Another great video from RevZilla about ECU Reflash vs. Power Commander For Engine Tuning.
ruclips.net/video/dKoTbkkoo_I/видео.html
I've had multiple bikes ECU flashed tuned using mail in services by Chris Moore and Freddy at Superbike Unlimited while I was standing in their office talking to them. Since these shops are in driving distance I drove my ECU out to them instead of mailing it so I know exactly what I'm talking about. I also ECU flash my Mustang Ecoboost using an SCT hand held tuner with custom tunes so I know what ECU flashing vs Dyno tuning is sparky. Watch you are own fucking video, you clearly state "Flash tuning is not tuning." and go on to state that it's like hitting the lottery.
The mail in ECU flashing services from Moore Mafia, Norton, Spears and Superbike Unlimited etc is a Dyno map from another bike with the same or similar mods. So mailing your ECU to get flash tuned is not like hitting the lottery unless you are stupid enough to mail your ECU to some kid with a computer, but who the fuck would do that? You make no distinction between an ECU flash tune from Chris Moore and some kid with a computer, you simply lumped all ECU flashing services together which is incorrect and disingenuous.
Had you made the distinction between Chris Moore flashing the ECU and some kid with a computer the video would be excellent.
Here is Chris Moore discussing his mail in ECU flash service that he and other reputable shops offer. Chris makes the distinction between Dyno tuning, ECU Flashing using a Dyno map, and an ECU flash that will simply disable/enable some settings. So there are different levels of ECU flashing services and should not be lumped together and disregarded as trash.
5hp? That's not much
Exhaust choice is everything . 😉😉
So absolutely no point. Very expensive 5hp. Much more effective to go on a diet.
If you say so..... 👍
I'm no expert but it's pretty clear to me that there's a lot more gained than just the horsepower gain.
@@monteiro1993 what those other gains might be?
A proper air fuel ratio. Smoother throttle response. A cooler running engine. A longer lasting engine. Simply put a truly fine tuned machine. Not just a mass produced motorcycle altered negatively by government epa standards and national distribution rules.
Yea but you're wearing the fuck out of the engine running lean. Ignorant comment lol.
Not worth it
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