Code Orange Interview Type O Negative: Touring w/ Ozzy Osbourne & 'October Rust's' Initial "Failure"
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- (7/9): Type O Negative Fan Q&A + Vinyl Unboxing w/ Johnny and Kenny. Hosted by Jami & Dom of Code Orange // Watch the rest of the interview here: bit.ly/2p3wBek
To celebrate the release of the 'None More Negative' box set, superfans Jami & Dom from the band Code Orange got to sit down with surviving Type O Negative members Johnny and Kenny about the band's epic history.
In this clip Johnny and Kenny talk about the initial failure of 'October Rust' after coming off the booming success of 'Bloody Kisses'. During this time the band also drove across America to tour with Ozzy Osbourne.
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💚💚💚💚💚 I wish they made a documentary on Type O Negative and Peters life. Beyond talented and criminally underrated.💚💚💚💚💚
Opinions 'Я' Me weren’t some of the band members pissed off about that book?
@@mrmanback Yes, book is filled with lies, that's why the family and band stopped supporting it while it was being made
Yes, they need to document more of the Peters criminal failings.
If you're reading this, look up None More Negative by RUclipsr Killbot&GorGorAttack or something like that. Fan made. Good quality.
So funny watching Johnny tell these stories while Kenny sits there and racks his brain trying to remember them. You can definitely tell who did more boozing on the road ;)
Haha! was just about to comment that lmao
Even back in the 90s when you watch videos of Type O, Johnny was always the quiet guy just chilling in the background. Every top band needs that kind of guy, who knows the correct tour bus to get on, the correct flights to take, the correct hotels they are staying at etc
@@PeaceDweller Lol...you mean the ONE GUY who isn't shit faced every night??? Peter called Johnny "the only normal one in the band".
they're like an old married couple
@@PeaceDweller But then there is Josh, who is so quiet that you forget that he's even more quiet than Johnny. And when he did talk, he seemed incredibly lucid, possibly even sober. 😆
Their best album. Don't know why it didn't get the recognition that Bloody Kisses got.
My personal opinion is that ppl weren't ready for it. There was a lot going on in that album and people needed to process it. It is one of my favorites though.
it just needed time to soak with people. It was 'deeper'
I remember seeing an interview in a guitar magazine during the making of October Rust and Peter was quoted as saying "There are going to be a lot of military influences on this record." and when it finally came out and me and my brother listened to the entire thing my bro brought up Pete's quote and jokingly said "That was a lie" lol. Type O & Pete are sorely missed. The 90's were the glory days for me as I just got out of the Navy in spring of 1995 and was only 23. I was stationed in Maine so I'd get to go to shows in Portland (Metallica) & other shows in Fitchburg & Boston, MA (Anthrax, White Zombie, Quiksand, Megadeth, Rob Halford's "Fight"). But it wasn't until the summer of 1995 when I got to see TON open for Queensryche in NJ.
Long story but I moved to Seattle & my brother ended up working for TON which in turn Peter asked my younger bro what my number was & he called me. From that point forward he'd put my name on the guest list and I'd be able to them without getting crushed, near other people etc. Last show I saw them was at The Roseland in Portland, OR. RIP my friend.
THEY DESERVED SO MUCH MORE.
October Rust is a Masterpiece!!!!!!!!!!
@Diego Still #2 behind 'Bloody Kisses'. OR is too poppy, over produced (even for TON), and largely put together to please Roadrunner (Peter's own words).
@@arthurbishop3173 Peter also said OR is his favorite TON record. Even after all the other ones came out. I don't know why you're trying to tell people what is what here in different threads. You hold no authority. OR over BK for me. 'Over produced', more like best produced. Whenever I hear people say 'overproduced' it's always on my favorite productions. I guess I like 'over produced' records.
@Diego So....BK is the album that IS TON, highly produced but not OVERLY produced, the songs are better, more interesting, have more parts, are less radio friendly (a good thing), and I say BK is more unique than OR, which I like, but can't touch BK. OR is too feminine (Josh's words-I agree), and panders too much to female and radio audience. I do like a lot of it, but it isn't in the same universe as BK, which is rougher, funnier, heavier, and more masculine. Yeah, that's just my opinion, but that's how I see it (and hear it).
@@Salomon_G Depends on which interview you listen to. There is another interview where Peter says the albums are like his children and he couldn't pick just one.
I'm a fanatic for BK. I don't/won't lie about that. There's never been a better album released, by anyone, than BK. Think whatever you want, b/c that's what I'm going to continue to do.
And not 'over-produced' like Britney Spears...over-produced for TON. Why do you think they never went back to such ridiculous amounts of production after that album, even after it became successful?? Again, even JOSH (who PRODUCED the damn thing HIMSELF) has said the album has too many keyboards and is too feminine and has too many layers. Again, you want it as your favorite, do it-your choice. But I like the harder edge of the first 2 albums, BK in particular.
Honestly, to me, october rust is their weakest record to me, which isn't weak by any means, but all respect to anyone who thinks otherwise btw
Just two years ago my old boyfriend showed me type o and I went and bought October rust and I listen to it nearly everyday. I love wolf moon and love you to death, Peter was so sweet and had a way with words his girlfriends were so lucky. RIP wonderful man
World Coming Down was always my go to Type O album. That thing was an underrated masterpiece.
Should not have cut the interview short, He was still talking about the mix of the album and then you cut the video. I wish Josh was there, I know he is an EMT now, but he did a great job, producing and putting these records together with Peter and the band
This is only a segment of a much longer interview.
His Keyboards and Synth Pads on this album really make it sound awesome.
Dude, I'm sitting here wondering how someone gives directions on how to mix an album over the phone. I'd love to hear how that went down.
October rust = timeless
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Trapped on an island and can only have 5 cd's......this is one of them.
Yep, definitely my favourite Type O album. "In Praise Of Bacchus" is my favourite Type O track. Plus I love their cover of "Cinnamon Girl". Type O = Incredible!
vuduhwy agree!👍😘🇸🇪
Rex Everything praise of baccus is amazing!👍
October Rust was my favorite album.
'Bloody Kisses' is the better record, less poppy, funnier, heavier and not over produced like OR.
@@GhoulReviews I agree that there are more 'singles' on OR...it's a more conventional record (which is what Roadrunner WANTED Peter to write). I like BK better for too many reasons to list here, but one I'll share with you is that it ISN'T a radio album-NO songs are short enough to fit into radio's idea of 'singles'. BK is its OWN ENTITY. ALL SONGS need to be heard/played in their ENTIRETY, meaning NO EDITED (SHORT) versions...the album is PERFECT the way Josh and Peter produced and tracked it. It's more depressing and yet still funnier than OR, and it's heavier too. The guitars and bass have more edge whereas on OR everything is more smooth and refined (also, REAL LIVE drums by Sal help make BK better whereas on OR, Peter and Josh used electronic drums, which have no soul or uniqueness to them). Again, OR is great record-I love it (don't get me wrong). I just think BK is their real masterpiece-less layers and production, with longer, more hard hitting songs and an original vibe that even OR doesn't capture.
Why do you think BK is overrated?? If anything, it's the other way around (OR is overrated).
Dude can u stfu BK is NOT better than OR by a long shot. OR has a timelessness to it that BK just doesn’t quite have even tho they’re both amazing records. OR just hits every point, fuck over production and yadda yadda yadda, OR is the one of the greatest records ever released
Type o will always be in my top 3 favorite bands of all time. When i found out that Pete passed. I put on " wolf moon" and cried. Then a few weeks later got my type o logo tattooed. Miss you guys.
After watching these series of interview vids, I've developed a deeply personal alternative fantasy world in which Johnny and Kenny are my lost lost Uncles, and we're in a day-time sitcom focusing on the juxtaposition of me being a 40 year old awkward English guy and I've just had to move to Brooklyn. I'll be setting up a Patreon to make this a reality shortly.
Quality. I'll watch it. I wish these guys were my uncles too. Especially silent uncle Josh. He has a strong presence yet says little.
october rust is my personal favorite of yours! it's a great fantastic album, thanks!
Johnny checking every album to see if it’s the right green💚
October rust. This is THE album I hope you guys re-release (on its own) on vinyl. memories... and for me (by far) my favorite album. Such beautiful sounds..
Just beautiful. Such originality for the time and even more impressive when you compare it to the mindless shit that we hear nowa days
This comment aged well lol
October Rust will always be my favorite Type O album 💚🖤💚🖤
I have No Idea how this album didn't sell more when it first came out. It was Amazing Sonically, Atmospherically and Musically.
October Rust is my favorite Type O album and what’s funny is that I was one of those people who bought it through Columbia House! Man do I miss those days!
October Rust is so beautiful and individual
I love love October Rust. It is my favorite album of all time.
I listened to 'October Rust' every fucking day for nearly a year. 'Wolf Moon' is still the greatest song Peter Steele ever wrote.
Actually, 'Christian Woman' is Pete's best song 6)
I'm loving these coming back interviews. Brings back some nostalgia of the 90s goth wave
I saw Type O Negative when them and Sepultura opened for Ozzy, Knoxville TN date. It was 1996 during the Ozzmosis tour.
Shane Carter- I caught that concert that same year here in El Paso Texas - the Ozzy "retirement sucks" tour... we are the lucky ones to have been able to attend that concert!!!!🤟
Never experienced Type 0 live but I accumulated a vast catalogue of their music. Love it everyday most certainly always.👍😘🇸🇪
I’m 19 and I’ve been listening to type 0 since I was 10 (when Peter died). I just wish I was born a little earlier to see Them in concert
October Rust is fucking brilliant. I listen to it every autumn
I remember walking back from the record store with my brother. He just bought October rust . I asked him hey wouldn't that suck if the cd was blank? We put the cd in and just looked at each other ahh hell no . Lol
stab2killnecks 👌👍haha!
Bahahah
October Rust is one of my top-fave TON albums, tied with Bloody Kisses.
Commercialized or not, the stuff on OR is just amazing.
Going platinum by Columbia House sales! I laughed and reminissed at the same time! Peter like humour, glad to hear Kenny and Johnny still have it.
october rust was there best album imo, still listen to it to this day
It was very polished and commercial. I like it, but loved the following albums just as much. They hit their stride.
Disagree. BK is their best album...less commercial, less radio friendly yet has all its own vibe and EVERY song (not the filler tracks) is fucking great. BK is heavier, with less production, less layers, more depressing yet funnier too. It's the real masterpiece in their catalogue.
They made great music. I'm sad I'll never get to experience this live. Peter was a good dude, he'll live on. He's so much like one of my best friends in nature O-, but different, both of us are from the green eyed woman. An interesting mystery.
Southernburrito I saw them live in late 90s at the hard rock in Orlando.
I’ve missed so many good bands but I got to see type o.
Sorry you missed out, phenomenal 🤘🤘🤘
October Rust...no album like that. Even themselves could not top it.
they did top it, each album after was progressively better.
@@totalpartykill999 not really...World Coming Down was good,but not better to me. Life is killing me has some combination between October Rust and earlier stuff like "Angry Inch" sounds like something that could have been like Slow,Deep and Hard material. "Anesthesia" sounds like October Rust material. Dead Again was the worst for me.
@@totalpartykill999 I love all their material, but October Rust was definitely their peak record. The songs, the arrangements, and the production are just perfection, and were never quite duplicated again.
'Bloody Kisses' is their BEST album.
@@totalpartykill999 agreed. They hit their stride October rust and on. I love all the following albums. Each one was quality top to bottom.
I remember buying October Rust when it was released. To this day, one of my top 10 albums of all time.
October Rust still my all-time favourite record/CD. Of all time for everybody. I own about three or four copies of it.
In fact if I was only allowed to own one CD that would be it. They'll be playing it at my funeral
Peter is one of the best songwriters ever I miss that voice one of those situations you might as well disband the band. Because there's nobody on planet Earth that can replace Peter Steele
October rust is my favorite type o negative LP
R.i.p. Pete
I love love love October Rust! Favorite TON
Will never forget seeing them play at Ozzfest for October Rust. Fkn incredible. Tomorrow is October 1st. The first thing I'm listening to tomorrow is October Rust on the way to work. Miss'm a lot.
My favorite album of all time... October Rust, then world coming down. My favorite band of all time... Typo baby
OR is amazing. Timeless. Incredible
WCD is an unparalleled masterpiece
SD&H is the best nyhc record ever
The funniest group of guys ever to start a band. Type O Rules
I think October Rust is the best Type O album 🖤💚 #RIPGreenMan
Prefer punishment...errrrrr, 'Bloody Kisses' 6)
Type o has always been my favorite band. October rust should have one. It is a album I play all the time.
October/World are an equal masterpiece
Would kill to hear josh talk on the production.
I remember standing around the music store laughing at all the people coming back in to return their album of October Rust.
I remember almost blowing my car speakers on that 1st track lol.
My favorite album by them.... hands down. Peter was such a unique voice and bass player.
Bloody Kisses, then October Rust and then World Coming Down are my top 3 Type O Negative albums. But all are completely amazing.
great band
Type O Negative is one case where RoadRunner records treated em like a poo poo. That's why they were excited to be on the new label with Dead Again. Too bad they didnt make many more albums. RIP PETE
When will dead again be available for download?
i downloaded the audio from youtube lol
I’d rather give the boys my money... AGAIN... bought that CD twice...lost it twice...
@@shanekelley8851 I feel the same way. I bought Bloody Kisses 3 times because it was stolen twice.
@@filthyswit BK is far and away their best album.
Bought october rust when it came out.Classic.
7 million? Haha wtf.
”We where platinum for ’bloody kisses’ we just did not know it at the time.” 😂😀
60 channels on october rust has to mix it over the phone😂 Gets to Ozzy show its cancelled😎😂😂
Time really makes you laugh at the misery.
I loved October rust
I wish they wouldn’t cut them out when talking about October Rust or the last 3 albums.
October Rust..so influential on me..i got the cover of the album tattooed on me.
Wish i could of seen them live.
"They forgot digital" in the 90s.
Miss this band a shit load. Hurts! ..
Every Type O album was genius.
October Rust an absolute superb album🖤
OR is beyond good.
I identify with Kenny so much Lmaoo
Octrust is classic
Josh Silver, the saving grace of this trainwreck. I love TYPE O NEGATIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!
Type O Negative is a horribly underrated band.
Let there be green, where ever you are Pete..
October Rust is by far the best sounding record of theirs.
I fucking love October Rust.
Regardless of the amount of sales at the time. The fan base keeps growing!
Slow deep and hard is the greatest record ever made...nothing like it..it stands alone as the most unique record ever made!!
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Don't know what y'all r smokin but October Rust is my second fave after World Coming Down which was flagrantly Negative,, Bloody Kisses was a bit over rated, maybe cuz it appealed to all the kids,, October Rust wasn't as superficial.. imo ,, deeply Negative 🖤💚
Such a unique sound ....so sad about Pete .
Can’t believe they’re calling October Rust a failure. It’s easily, by a wide margin Type O’s best record.
I loved October Rust so much that I couldn’t really listen to the albums that came after. Unfortunately by the time World Coming Down came out my musical tastes had changed. If that record had come out 6 months earlier it would prob be a different story.
O Type O Negative merece ter sua história contada em filme ou em uma série.
GREAT GREAT GREAT
::asked about World Coming Down::
::gets 5 minute answer about October Rust::
October Rust was too ahead of its time... imagine how different Type O would have been had it been a commercial success initially. Hell, Peter might still be alive had it taken off like it deserved
I live in Fresno Ca.
Can someone tell me what song that is that's playing in the background while they're being interviewed. Particularly the upbeat, punk sounding song and the song that has that really heavy Sabbath sounding guitar riff going on? Thanks in advance! 👍👍
Black No. 1, like the hair dye goths use.
I live under a rock called the bar I work in. Had I known this was going on. And from what I'm seeing, answering online questions. I wanna know if there is any unrelated type o songs? B sides that will ever come out?
Not really. They would have been out by now. There are a couple of things here and there like the non-Ozzy version of Pictures of Matchstick Men but no unheard Type O songs. Going from memory here but Peter was just starting to write the follow-up album to Dead Again titled "Double Crossed" but didn't get very far before he died.
@@KaneRobot I watched another interview with Kenny stating that they didn't have any B-sides/unheard stuff because they went to the studio and just recorded what they had. It was just the way they did it. Not really any rhyme or reason. It was just, just was. Like how unicorns are blood thirsty bastards! True story!
What about Josh? Where is Josh?
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World Coming Down is their best album. Followed by October Rust. WCD is nuclear bomb of an album.
Hey Johnny,Kenny!
Fuck the record company!
Type O Negative rules!!
Long live Peter
I REMEMBER the summer of '96 when Ozzy canceled... I was supposed to see Ozzy in August of '96 (in Sacramento, which was usually hotter than Fresno, but with better air-lol). I don't remember who was supporting, but it wasn't TON, and it wasn't a festival. It was the 'Ozzmosis' tour, and the song 'Perry Mason' was big on the radio at the time. Ozzy canceled something like 2 days before the show, and I was so pissed, I never bot tickets to see him again, not solo, not in BS.
That summer was pretty hot, and I remember hearing rumors that he didn't want to play outside when it was that hot (100-105 degrees). I never got confirmation wrt the rumors, but it changed my mind about ever going to see again.
He canceled that same year in Spokane Washington too. It was billed as Ozzfest but they were playing in arenas. I was 15 as was pumped for Ozzy with Sepultura (with Max), Danzig and Biohazard opening but he ended up canceling the day before they were supposed to play. Funny enough that was supposed to be my second concert ever, but since it was canceled Type O Negative (with Drain S.T.H. and Sister Machine Gun) touring for October Rust ended up being my second concert.
I talked to a local radio DJ and the official word was "one of the members of Ozzy's band was sick" but the DJ said it was low ticket sales.
@@TheRodersAbides 1996 was the year BEFORE I'd heard of TON, but I'm jealous: You got to see them on the OR tour, probably TON in their prime. I saw them in 2000 and 2003, and was also going to see them in Jan of 2008, but was kicked out (and banned for a year!!) of the parking lot for bringing my own beer in (Anaheim House of Blues is owned by Disney, and they don't allow that I guess-lol).
Too bad they didn´t talk about World coming down more
Ah, yes. Those mid 90's digital sales hahha.
Well I was a big fan of periods and werewolves so I mean I bought it instantly.
Dam yall able to pick a favorite album from them?
Too loud background music! Pls correct that or change in the future video's👍
Peter Lugers reference!
But johnny kelly...josh silver...kenny hickey...hell sal albruscato...paul bento...."cant lose you" (s)zitar....deserve = respect in my book...when a band creates their signature sound...that people recognize from the first note...you cant get any higher respect for a band in my book...throw in some honesty.....hey would of loved to see Type-o play with Alice- in chains with Layne on board...call it "THE GREAT DEPRESSION TOUR"!!!!.. Sponsored by phyizer".."Lets Make America medicated again"...🤘🤘🤘..💚/13....
Slow deep and hard is the greatest record ever made
💚🖤💚 "black lipstick stains a glass of red wine", I am your servant may I light your cigarette "? 🍷💓🍷💋
World coming down is the best
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Im a huge fan....listen,... Hopefully oneday they can take DNA outta the deceased....and clone um?... Im dead serious...upgrade the hologram shit.....R.I.P mr Steele... Hopefully i can make it this october......if things get better out here..💚/13.........