Outback Wilderness Off-Roading The West Part 1 | Old Dale Road
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- After getting our bearing in Joshua Tree National Park, it was time to get the Outback Wilderness out on the trail and see just how capable this thing really is. There aren't too many trails in Joshua Tree, so we had to do a little digging to see what we could find. Old Dale Road was what we decided on, and we didn't know just how tricky things would get as we started making our way through the sandy wash. With all the hype surrounding the Outback Wilderness, it was time to take up a mountain and find out if the hype was real!
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I've got to say, this is one of the most enjoyable videos I've watched in quite some time. I mean this with all the love in the world, but you're the most affable, self-deprecating and funny knucklehead in this space. Your wife is lovely and the two of you together can't help but make me smile. I'll look forward to you being at 100,000 subscribers within a year.
😂😂 thank you, dude! We sincerely appreciate that!
It’s great seeing you guys slowly falling in love with the car and the experience.
Agreed! Thanks for the comment, Richard!
Just picked up a '24 Outback Wilderness a couple of weeks ago after owning my first-ever Outback for almost three years (it was a 2020 Premium, but I really wanted the Wilderness, so I decided to go ahead and take the plunge, since Subaru has a really good trade-in program). I came across your channel as I looked for videos from other owners to see how they tricked theirs out. I'm thoroughly enjoying your videos. Thank you for producing and sharing them. It looks like y'all have insane amounts of fun. :)
This rig has been a blast so far and we love it! I'm going to take the same plunge when the 2025 comes out.
Thanks again, and another great perspective. Let us know when you're ready for another trek in this gold rich area, happy to host!
Awesome! Thank you!
Such a cute baby
Thanks for taking the time to share your adventures.
Yeah, the thing with the Subaru AWD vs the Jeep 4x4 is as you said, staying on the gas. The Jeep is locked and loaded and will just do it or not. The Subaru may get to an obstacle where it looses traction on a tire or resistance on a tire from an obstacle, and it may take two or three seconds for the torque solution to figure itself out. Usually less, but usually also as soon as it figures out a solution and moves a few inches it has a completely different problem with completely different needs. So basically it is thinking and experimenting whereas the Jeep is just sort of doing it. There are areas where it seems you would need a bump thinking jeep wise, because the car stopped. But with the Subaru you aren't really stuck or don't really need a bump until you give it the beans and give it a chance to figure out what tires to slow and what tires will get the remaining torque. It is a lossy ineloquent substitute for 4 wheel drive, but then again your Subaru is probably more comfortable, gets better gas mileage, and likely hauls more gear and eats up the bumps better. It's just a different experience that MOST of the time I think is worthwhile. Theres going to be many places only the Jeep (or Bronco or Whatever) can go. But the Subaru will surprise you and is a lot of fun, and can cross America in relative comfort and economy compared to other solutions. Databyter
We totally agree with what you said. The Subaru has its perks, but it’s just not hungry for rocks and obstacles like jeep or bronco. Driving across the country was a breeze though!
Agreed. We drive our outback on the beaches here in de and it's very soft. You have to give it gas and go. I've seen so many subarus get stuck out there because as soon as they start spinning they panic and brake. You need to let the system detect slippage for it to do its thing. We have never had an issue. I usually air down to about 22 for sand. I envy you guys for having these awesome overland trails.
Yeah, all the videos I've seen on the wilderness thus far indicate that you need to stay on throttle when you feel like it's futile to do so. Also, the deep snow/mud setting allows more wheel spin (which is probably terrifying coming from a Jeep). Spinning is how the system figures out what to do.
@@roamingwithjosh good video. I did this trail with my Wife back in 2017 in my Forester XT and had a a similar experience as you and your Wife. The transmission speed stall is something I don’t experience in my Honda Passport. It just crawls through with no hiccups or needing time to think. I did Fins N Things in my Honda Passport 🤣, all 9 miles too! But one thing that it doesn’t have is a following. Subaru marketing is superb and that’ll give you channel a lot of success. I appreciate your honesty about the wildernesses capabilities. The footage of the beginning of the trail where the axles were getting crossed up on relatively flat terrain brought back those memories of when I first started on my overland journey (even though, no one called it that back then). Although the CVT is the Achilles heel, any plans on getting a torque locker or Cusco LSD?
I like Ronny Dahl video on 4wd vs awd.😁 I like your videos though man they're really good and entertaining.
Ronny Dahl is great! We appreciate it!
I do enjoy your adventures and seeing what a Subaru can do. Everyone loves a underdog.
Agreed! Thanks for the comment!
Knocked this one out in my Subaru Forester wilderness. Was a fun time I’m in love with this car my first Subaru.
Right on! It's good to know other people use these vehicles the way they're supposed to be used!
May be a niche viewer, but as a potential obw buyer, really appreciate these reviews! Cool stuff!
Thanks for the comment! We sincerely appreciate it!
People forget that the Subaru DNA is in rally cars and not rock climbing. Jeeps are good at what they do, Subaru is rallies.
Agreed
Epic drone shots at the end. And perfect music. I also have this car and was curious about this trail. Now I know it's not off limits!
Sure isn’t! Go enjoy it and put that baby to the test!
Yo the conversation you two had about the Subaru not being made for this, sounds exactly like me and my girlfriend as well. Lol
😂😂 she’s was freaking out.
My Wilderness was very nice off road. I knew it was very limited compared to a Jeep or 4 Runner. Great highway vehicle though. Kept mine for 3 months before the CVT and infotainment got the best of me. Back in a 4 Runner and happy.
You may be on to something…
Great Video Bro!!
Thank you!
Courtney is a keeper. And a really good pilot.
😂😂 I totally agree!
This one was a good one, papa bear. ☑️🤙🏼⛰️
Thank you!
The Outback is looking good!
Thank you!
Great video! Really enjoyed it.
Thank you!
Have you thought about removing the rear sway bar for a little more flex? I wonder if it voids any warranty lol
That’s going to be one of my next moves. Idea on that will be coming soon!
The shot with you driving away with the drone rising behind you was epic Bro
Thank you!
Great video despite some trouble focusing, still very watchable and love the areal photography. I also appreciate your honesty in the vehicles capability and limitations. A very difficult comparison between the Jeep and OBW. Keep the vids coming
Thank you! It definitely is a hard comparison to make and even harder to live as a reality.
You have me thinking of trading my Jeep JL for an Outback wilderness
Listen, I’m more shocked everyday, but there are things that need to be done to make it a true challenger on the trail. I have something working for that.
We have a JLUR on 35's and just picked up a white OBW last month. The OBW is a blast to drive and has a really nice ride, while being fairly capable off road. For daily driving purposes and general off road exploring in the Rockies where we live, I would MUCH rather drive the Subi than the JL. Don't get me wrong, if I'm going to do some technical trails and some rock crawling here in CO or at Moab, the JL is a no-brainer, but for 85-90% of the exploring we do, the OBW rides better off road and has plenty of power as well. This is our first Subi, and we will most likely have one for years to come.
Right on! I agree with all of that. If I’m going somewhere challenging I’m taking the gladiator, but driving the gladiator everyday is a huge pain!
How did you attach the traction boards to the cross bars?
I used the Rhino Rack Maxtrax mounts, here's the link. amzn.to/3gzcaxm
Awesome video ! Getting mine in Feb. Been following your journey and am excited to continue ! Do you think a rear diff locker would help?
Right on and thank you! I think a locker would have definitely helped a lot. That’s on the list for sure.
Nice finding others with comperable rigs!! Just built up a 2021 Crosstrek Sport .. lifted it 2" .. Toyo all terrains III's and a skid plate up front. Went with the Crosstrek as it's 500 lbs lighter and 14" shorter then the Outback and I'm single, make a differance .. have done 3 trips to Death Valley and one trip to Moab so far. My Toyo's are one size larger so with the lift I have 12" at the rear pumpkin! I air down to 12/15 lbs .. usually for sand. In the rocky sections turn traction control 'OFF' until you get slippage .. then try Xmode .. I don't like X mode as it cut power when you need the momentum going uphill .. down hill it works decent! You gotta use momentum with the Subies .. that's what I'm finding out. Did a trail in DV that I wouldn't do with my other rig because I thought it too tough .. The Trek handled it easily .. one reason is the weight .. it's 1000 lbs lighter then my Ford. Google (Al Maurine Ford Explorer) .. Now I have ti figure out when and how I can do this trip! Thanks 🤠
No worries, Al! Thanks for the comment and your crosstrek sounds sweet!
Great content josh!
Thank you!
You don’t think the stock wheels and tyres would have been good enough for this trip?
Absolutely not.
@@roamingwithjosh okay could you perhaps do a video on the situations which would be the limit of what is stock and the reasons someone would need to choose the setup you have please? Those tyres do look almost too big for the wheel wells. Also, I presume you have not altered the suspension from the original Wilderness?
I can definitely go over some of that stuff in a future video and I appreciate the suggestion. The wheels are the same diameter as factory, just a bit wider. The tires don’t rub at all and I’ve had this thing in some pretty serious situations as I’m sure you’ve seen. We have not altered the suspension at all yet. Sorry for the delay in response!
@@roamingwithjosh thanks - sounds good - please also let us know if you can still fit snow chains on the bigger wheels and tyres so as not to contact and damage the suspension components around the back of the wheel (and how much gap remains in millimeters without chains) and other areas in the wheel arch (as snow chains are obligatory in some parts in some conditions)
Great video! Thx. Which x mode did you try?
All of them!
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yo Josh, thanks for the chat the other day on channel development, first videos live! The jeeps a v6 NA?Given the turbo 4 in the subi are you in drive or sequential? Maybe try locking in the fake first gear to stay in boost for that low end torque you are looking for. I dont know if that'll be enough but it might help.
That’s a really good idea on the 1st gear idea. I’ll give that a shot next time and see how it works. Thanks for the idea!
Famous last words…..we should be good lol
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It’s a subaru so use the subaru gods words of wisdom. When in doubt, flat out
I need clarification on what that means exactly. I’m a subi newbie
Great video! What was the first song in the video at around the two minute mark?
I’ll have to take a look.
@@roamingwithjosh thanks. Siri couldn’t figure it out.
"Wild and Free" by Mike Mains.
Josh, that was great! I need to do that trail… I just moved to yucca! You think 4 runner should ride well? BLM area of old dale any good for camping over night ?
Thanks, Steve! Yea the 4 runner will do just fine. Plenty of good BLM spots as long as the wind cooperates and doesn’t get gnarly overnight like it did on us!
Glad to find your channel, hope you okay with few questions, what size rims and tires are those ? they look great and what is your experience with the turbo on the Subaru. I am looking into the same car for my next wheels and after watching your video hope you can answer my questions. thanks a lot! a viewer from the great white north ! Chris.
Hey, Chris! Wheels are a 17” and the tires are bfg KO2 in 245/65/17. I don’t have any experience other than this one, this is my first Subaru so I’m new to this manufacturer. It seems to start pull at relatively low RPM so sometimes I feel it’s a bit jerky in its response, but other than that things have been great. Thanks for the comment and glad to have you as part of the channel!
Great video! Do you know what the offset and weight of those LP RIMS ?
I don’t know the weight but the offset is 35
Do you have a lift on the car?
Not at the moment. The cars suspension is factory.
@@roamingwithjosh i was just curious, my outback wilderness will be delivered in March, and I am looking at the LP lift, wheels, and tires. I think it did well the way you have it setup
@@roamingwithjosh : Yeah, I think the ADF lift is all you need, considering all the struts assembly are brand-new. No need to swap for a full lift unit until the OBW is much older.
She’s straight up throwing the knife hand. Haha. Are you two vets?
😂😂 she wasn’t thrilled. No, sir we are not.
After watching several TFL videos it's all cars with AWD that have those issues. Too much nanny computer control kills the abilities and potential that it actually has. Still great video showing it all so others can decide if they want to deal with it or not. Obviously they are great in bad weather just limited in the "off-road" world more than they advertise them to be. Have fun and looking forward to the next part.
Thanks, Travis!
TFL is still doing vids. They don’t know how to drive Subarus that’s for sure. They used to be good about eight years ago, most people I know have stopped watching for obvious reasons
Any issues with the car? Any oil consumption? Keep up the vids.
None yet, but that could change at any second. If it does I’ll make a video about it and tag Subaru.
Could you have done this trail on stock tires and no extra lift? Thanks!
Edit: looks like you are still on the stock lift per the comments below.
Yep, still on stick lift. It could have been done without the bigger tires, I just don’t know how they would have held up.
@@roamingwithjosh thanks for the response!
No worries!
Stay in the pedal. Subie engineers will figure out the rest.
Agreed!
What are,
Your wheel / tire specs?
Running LP Aventure LP-7’s with BFG KO2 245/65/17
@@roamingwithjosh were you able to fit that size in the spare tire space?
@@BenNorthcuttBohmert No, I have a spare tire carrier, I just didn't bring it with me this trip.
Sell it !!
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@@roamingwithjosh : I think he meant " Send it !!! ". Probably a glitched auto-correct, IMHO.
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I love that you guys want it to fail then automatically compare it to a jeep when it gets challenging. But I think that’s unfair to do. But the Subie proves itself every time! I wish where I live in Florida had more options that just flat dirt roads…. 🫤
We compare it to the jeep because that's the only thing we have to compare it to, not to pin the two against each other. She did the job over and over again no matter what and that left us impressed!