My Husband Won't Sell His Old Car To Buy A New One!
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Better keep the 98 Honda for a backup when your "new" used car breaks down
Yep, those generations accords were build to last. Unless you are in the rust belt, which kills them, those things run forever.
The way new cars are built nowadays, I would have a backup car. New cars nowadays are not completely trouble free.
@@danielboone72 My friends that have new or newer vehicles are having more problems and issues with getting parts than us that drive 20 year old or older stuff. i can afford new but i prefer to drive my old cars. i did buy a 2018 ford truck at an estate auction a couple of years ago. i had it only 6-8 weeks, as soon as i got the title back i sold it to carmax for a nice profit and went back to driving my 1988 superduty 7.3. glad i kept it and got thinking about getting a new vehicle out of my head. . hated all the crap on the newer vehicles.
At most, upgrade to a 2012 accord.
yep
Driving an old car is a statement. It says I don't care what you think about me . Something we all need to embrace
Which paradoxically says you do care
@@TrendyTryhardno they dont care
I drive a 1983 Mercedes’
It s a great car
Why would I replace it with SOmething that I can’t afford
AMEN!
I am happy to drive an 18 year old crv which looks and drives like a new one. It makes a better statement about who I am than a new one would.
But I appreciate people buying new. This way I can easily afford cars when they are done with them and never have financing.
I’m guessing her husband is the reason they are completely out of debt.
Sure ain't her
I've seen stranger things happen to people's thinking when a new baby arrives. Common sense goes out the window.
@@johnhwang339 this has nothing to do with the baby. You can tell she has been wanting him to get rid of that car for a lot of years and she is just using the baby as an excuse
And living like they're poor.
100 percent.
My wife tried to get me to sell my truck for years. The wife is gone (divorce) but I still have the truck.
Just because you can afford a new car doesn’t mean that you have to buy a new car.
You made the right choice.
You got to keep the dog and beer?
I’ve got an old 1 ton ford. Bought it a few years ago for next to nothing. Was offered almost 20x what I paid for it a few weeks ago. The first wife would have sold it behind my back. Current wife? Got very offended by the thought. lol. This one is a keeper
I did get the dog.
I have an old truck. Anyone who wants to share my life will either accept it, or move along. Call it a character test! XD
This is how a divorce starts. Asking the next man what to do under his house.
Exactly, not respecting the husbands sound decision, thinking they know better, so they go to "a higher authority" in her mind on the topic to use to her advantage.
this. awesome comment
She is going to learn about being an independent woman soon if she’s complaining about this.
Truth
A very smart comment. I didn't even think about it this way. But if my wife did the same aka. ask another man she would no longer be my wife. And I would oblige her in her choice.
This woman is a prime example of why I’m single.
Exactly
Yeah, cept my wife wants me to keep a truck that is so rusted I think I can get my hand through the frame rail. She says, "we can weld in new metal." You don't know all women. Or, just maybe, you don't know how to be a man and can't attract a real woman. Just a thought.
@@kborak you wife probably wants you dead
She is right in this situation. The hosts were delusional. Check out how a 98 accord performs in a crash test compared to any car of recent years. A Buick or a ford for 15 - 20k $ used is so much safer than a 98 Accord it is unreal.
@@pycus13 no she isn't. She just wants a new car.
This guy is the reason they have money.
It had to be said.
A strong alliance of people is always brought down from within.
Her husband is the reason they have money.
It almost always is, even if she makes more money. Even a LOT more.
Your husband said no I don't want a new car Why is she calling another man to tell another what to do in his household. The nerve of this woman.
Lighten up. She just wanted an opinion from Dave. I assume her husband is not her boss. It is a partnership.
Why is my partner reaching out to a non partner since it's a partnership
Agree 100% she is completely out of line.
@@CroisMoi trash argument
Presumably, it's to get an opinion from someone with a certain level of assumed authority, who will hopefully agree with her.
I like Ken's idea. Years ago, my wife said, "I want to trade cars." I replied "Sure- you drive mine, I'll drive yours." It cooled the fever and stopped the struggle.
Ken's idea was to actually reward the wife with a new car. Which is secretly what the wife really wants.
I’m currently still in the same car I had when I got married. A 2005 Honda accord, basic 4-cylinder model with a manual transmission. I had the radiator replaced at 80k miles, the starter replaced at 120k miles, absolutely zero other issues on that car. Just got a brutally cold January and that old car started and ran like a champ every day. I’ve kept up with the maintenance and I have every confidence that if I get in right now I can drive to California today without any concerns. No way I’d see it now
I had a tiny manual 98 saturn sc2 with no abs/traction control, personally I wanted something with side airbags and abs/traction control and a bit more weight when I had a kid 3 years ago... The RAV 4 she has should do the job, some women divorce guys over stuff like this for being "cheap" unfortunately.
I refuse to ever have a car payment. I also work in automotive and have come to understand the fact that modern cars are less reliable and more expensive to fix. My 2004 is falling apart but that thing will still move under its own power. All my friends are telling me to sell it get a better car. I refuse. I will drive that car until it can't anymore. I was just grinning when she mentioned her husband refusing to sell the Honda. Very smart man I'd do the same.
Treat it well you'll easily get 300k+ miles out of that bad boy
Her husband is a very humble man
Exactly. Mine is the same. Even though we can afford a newer car he loves his 97 Honda CR-V and I just let him be happy with it. I drive a 2016 Camry and don’t like cars that are too old. He keeps his car in very good condition so I don’t see the problem. This wife is annoying the man for no reason 🙄
@@MesheherKimyou don't understand!
He is embarrassing her in front of her friends. Everyone is seeing what an old car her husband drives!
I hope you’re not serious, because no one actually cares if you drive a bugatti or a beetle at the end of the day, except you.
@@MesheherKim No. She wants a newer car. They have the cash for one. It’s a non issue. Buy the car.
@@TexasVexesMy kids go to school in a pretty affluent school. I drive a 2008 Highlander.
I don’t care what other people drive. And I’ve never felt like people cared what I drove.
It’s really an issue in people’s own minds.
This guy has some serious self control to have a car like that while making 6 figures. Respect to him. The fact the wife even felt the need to call into something petty like this says a lot about her.
"six figures" is the new five figures.
@@boggy7665in NY metro 180 is scraping by.
he wants to retire early thats smart as we just learned from the take the shot or your fired event we all just lived through
Warren Buffet still drives his 06 Cadillac.
I make 140k a year, only owe on my house (less than 80k), no debt. I drive a very similar Honda. Unless it’s your hobby and brings you great joy, not worth it.
"Your argument on safety is absolute BS"
And down she goes in flames.
My brother and I rode in the back of a Ford Country Squire station wagon. We both made it out alive.
That's called survivorship bias.
@@stevemccooleq probably because you didn't get into a crash with something the size of a modern suv or pickup. Im an EMT and when a compact sedan from the 90s gets into a crash with the average suv or pick up on the road today, things don't turn out too well for whoever was in the sedan, more often then not. I wouldn't put my kids in a car like that. but they also don't need a brand new car. They could get a volvo suv from the 2000s for cheep. It will have more mechanical problems, but it will keep you alive in the average crash.
@@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866 98 Honda accord is just as safe as a sonata today.. get into a wreck with a truck and you're most likely hurt or dead, new or not
@@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866 what makes cars safer? Sounds like bs to me
I still remember my mom listening to Dave Ramsey talking about a guy that saved enough to buy a new car with cash, test drove it and decided he'd rather have the $40k, got in hi 80's VW Rabbit and invested the money. By the time the car had depreciated to $1700 he had somewhere in the 100 thousands in his account.
Preach
Exactly
I love how she tries to use the baby as the reason they need a new car. No B you just want a new car lol
Glad Dave also caught that and told her it's a want not a need
Kids can trash cars…wait till that phase is over to get better car.
@@jeanlaubenthal698 I agree. Personally I think if you have kids you should have a cheaper and more used up car. Wait until the kids are out of the house BEFORE you buy a really nice car.
I agree to an extent but It sounded like the car they’d be replacing is her husbands and she has a nice car already so I’m not sure that she just wants a new car.
Could be though
@@jeanlaubenthal698 LOL, like when? Even in college they trash your car.
I had a '96 Accord and an '09 RAV4. Both GREAT cars. Hush up lady and appreciate what you have.
What she needs to do is appreciate a husband who has put them in a position to be financially stable and is great at picking cars.
A Honda is a very good engine.
The baby's safety is in the car seat.
Both good cars!
100%
She heard what she wants to hear. Two cars? Why thank you. She should really be grateful for her husband making all the good financial decisions for the household.
IKR? She sound like someone that would be in a mess financially if she didn't have a spouse that kept the finances in order.
Not to be argumentative here. There are probably a ton of details missing about the 1998 car and their financial habits. I seriously doubt he makes ALL of the financial decisions and that without his ‘guidance’ she would be in a world of hurt financially. Helpfully they work together and have both adopted good financial habits.
@@adamr4198Actuarily… what you’re defending is highly unlikely.
@@adamr4198 The most important detail is who decided the 1998 isn't safe. It should always be a mechanic.
I’m a firm believer in buying a quality car and holding it (current daily drive is my 2008 Lexus GX470 with 165K miles which has been near flawless), and I can see the safety issue with a new baby where you don’t want to her to be stranded on a freeway or backroad somewhere. They should get a 3-5 year old Camry or Accord (or small SUV from Toyota or Honda) and call it a day. Have it checked out by a mechanic of course, but typically hard to go wrong with those brands.
The way she says "thaaank you" makes me think she was only listening to the part where they are affirming her, and not anything else 😂
The old "I want to be safe/kids excuse." Heard it countless times. Almost always by women. What it really boils down to is she just wants a new car to impress people.
Was looking for a comment like this so I didn’t have to do it myself. Well said. She doesn’t wanna be the only mom pulling up to the parent pickup line in a car that isn’t brand new.
Glad the mom is looking out for the safety of the kids. What's dad doing?
Yup.
Boomer soccer mom tactic from the 80s and 90s.
@@kbanghart Looking at college funds for the kid.
@@kennethwers lol right
The biggest issue here to me is, Wife is telling husband what car HE should drive.
He gets to pick his replacement car. Could be a truck or anything he wants.
@@scottbaker9066 He picked his car. She just doesn't like it.
All women do that... some say it out loud, some internalize it.
@@scottbaker9066 then what is the point of this episode??? That she won't let him pick his car
imagine the sandwich she could have made in the time it took to make this call...
I must confess. My old car won't die and it runs like a top. 🤣
Is that a gay reference
Nice!
@@bryanmoser358I hope not
My 95 corolla is running strong af. 8 years after i bought it for $1000. Ive got maybe 2k more into maintenance including consumables like tires and brakes. Good Tires are getting pricey now though
@@E.Asinus that Toyota will just keep going. They are incredible. I am a Toyota girl and always have been. They don’t die on their own. Usually someone hits you and totals it out.
Here's a thought on the "safety" of older cars vs. newer cars: I owned a 90 Honda Accord. In 2015 (25-year old car, no air bags), I was literally knocked off a 65-mph highway and halfway across the median by an idiot in a pickup truck. When everything stopped, I simply unbuckled, opened the door, got out, and walked away without a bruise or scratch. I drive an 18-wheeler cross-country (Million Mile Safe Driver), and I see a lot of car crashes, both during and after. I've seen brand-new vehicles get turned into pieces so small you could pick up everything but the engine and transmission by hand and put it into a dumpster. The "latest" is not necessarily the "greatest". And all those computerized safety bells and whistles aren't going to save you, no matter what the salesman said.
And there’s an EMT up thread that said the exact opposite of you.
@@BlueDauntless The EMT was specifically comparing small sedans versus large pickups and SUVs. That's not an age comparison, that's a mass comparison.
I love my wife! She’s totally content with her 1996 Toyota Camry wagon with 260,000 miles on it! I even took her to a Toyota dealership to test drive a new Highlander Hybrid. She wasn’t even tempted👍😊.
Those damn old toyotas last forever. Just bought an old tacoma for 1700 last year and has spent the whole year running great. I just use it for my side small business bit damn I love it. New cads are for suckers.
A Camry wagon of that vintage is actually rare. On its way to classic status.
The highlander drives like a boat. You can't see what's in front of your bumper. 1996 camry is the size of a prius wagon. or just get another Camry and save yourself $13,000 over the Highlander.
If that thing has a manual transmission... NEVER SELL IT!
...Unless I'm the one buying it. :)
@@jeretsoLove my Highlander.
After looking at several used cars to buy, decided to keep the 99 Camry.
The older Camrys are more comfortable anyway. My 2007 had softer seats and a better ride than my 2015.
That honda is a great car. From a safety and reliability standpoint they're great
The RAV4 is a great car too.
As long as the baby can be seated in the center of the back seat it will be safe no matter the age of the car. She just wants the 20+ year old car out of the driveway.
the proper placement for the wife seat is on the roof rack.
@@invalidaccount2315 OUCH!
We have old cars and my husband is a mechanic. We are doing fine. We do not want monthly payments. You just want a new car.
Ok boomer
@@nunyabidnes6010 I disagree and think you’re being too dismissime.
She offers great perspective that is independent of age or generation and we should all aspire to be satisfied with and maintain what we have.
@nunyabidnes6010 I'm a millennial, I did work in my 2014 Ford Escape. I saved $$$ money by doing my own work that did not require specialty skills. The newer cars are more complex and have electronics problems. This woman is just wanting a new car. Hondas are reliable, safe vehicles. I lucked out with my escape 1.6 turbo but I did not want to buy it in the first place. We are divorced and guess what? She got the newer car.
@@nunyabidnes6010ok clown.... enjoy your debt mountain
You say that like it’s a problem. She’s not asking the family budget to take on $1k car payment. They’re paying in cash. That they have and won’t miss.
Big freaking deal if she wants a new car. She can afford it.
Anyone who see the value in a reliable affordable used car is wise beyond their generation.
Reliable? No such animal.
@@tracygaluszynski1868 False
@@tracygaluszynski1868 2003 Corolla 280k miles never done anything besides change the oil
@@damonleeb Drive until explode?
@@damonleeb 06 Corolla, 208k. So long as the engine and transmission work, I'll either fix everything else or pay someone to do it.
Those are two great cars also. Reliable and fuel efficient and if they do need repairs it’s cheap!
You're smart.👍
Yep. Her husband is the reason they have money and it was he who picked the cars, guaranteed, she should thank him.
If the old car runs. Why get a new one?
Kids were riding in those cars back then.
Because she wants to flex their wealth.
Exactly. Sounds like a spoiled B****
No doubt there were pregnant women in 1998 demanding a brand new Accord so their baby would be completely safe.
Jimmy/Saul did you sober up?
Because people like newer cars. Or like the style of that car.
I'd have to disagree on Dave's safety assessment. The issue isn't that that 90s car is unsafe, it's that it's going up against modern cars that are huge and rely heavily on crumple zones. Watch some crash tests between a 90s car and a modern car and you'll see, the 90s car just gets obliterated. It's an unfair match and the 90s car will lose every time.
Modern cars are disposable junk.
I drive a 2003, come at me bro
I drive a '93.
New cars are definitely way more safe than old cars even from 25 years ago. I think her analysis is valid but the 2008 Toyota is probably a significantly safer than the Honda, so so maybe she should drive that with the kid.
Exactly if there were to be a crash between a 98 accord and a 08 rav4 I know what car I'd prefer to be in and its not going to be the 98 honda.
This is stupid. You don’t need a newer car, newer is not always better.
This! You need to explain to me how the new car is better. And if it's about backup cameras and side mirror warnings, that can always be installed in an older car.
I suppose you haven't been in a 1989 Pontiac Grand AM that was falling apart piece-by-piece, burning oil, Trans slipping, death wobbling over 50 MPH, and even ticketed for unsafe vehicle/failure to maintain by the police
But hey, at least it was free 🤷♂️ no payments
I hate new cars. They all have computers that control every function and it’s expensive and sometimes a wild goose chase to diagnose and fix anything when it goes wrong.
And this is the reason I don't want a wife, I'm selfish and only want to spend on the things I want, rather buy an r8 in 20 years then constantly spend so she can be happy, F that
You are a wise man
They won't be happy then either. lol
The sad thing is, cars hold their value a lot better than married women do. Stay strong 💪 🤘
@@jshepard152I've been married twice. I wasn't happy because modern marriages are one sided society does not care for marriage, it's a means to an end
@@jshepard152 happiness is peace, you dont get that with modern women.
The husband is 100% correct, nothing wrong with a 98 honda.
She's right. All the babies born in the 90s died in unsafe cars.
Are you implying that older cars are anywhere near as safe as modern cars?
Yup I’m actually a ghost due to growing up in the 90s and having unsafe cars.
@@AlecArtComics just implying the same thing Dave is. I've got a reliable and safe 98 Mercury Marquis
Then he went and bought two older cars, one to drive and one to restore 🤣🤘
haha it is what I did too (a daily cheap car to transport family and the dog, my beloved '89 Land Cruiser and an '61 Renault Dauphine Gordini). Do not want a modern 5 figures crap to look cool. Friend of mine has a BMW X5 Hybrid, the car is already tearing down (hydraulic suspension) and BMW charged him half the price of my land Cruiser to fix it.
Bought my 2007 Honda new and refuse to sell it until I'm good and ready. It's cheap reliable transportation.
Keep it until the wheels fall off.
she is right about the safety. safety in cars has gotten so much better. friends are state troopers (20+ years) and are amazed at how people are doing after wrecks. What would have been fatal is no longer fatal in these new cars.
It's his car he can do what he wants with it.
They're married. Not his car. It's their car
If he owned it before marriage it’s his car. His name is on the title that’s HIS car.
@@ClassCraZeTVso your saying never get married? What a stupid concept that someone can't control something they own and paid for
@@ClassCraZeTV The Rav4 is her car and the Accord his its made clear in this video. Needless to say if a Woman tried to get me to get rid of my car and then use emotional manipulation and other guff excuses to force me into getting rid of my own car then she would be kicked to the kerb.
In ‘98 that Accord was one of the safest things on the street.
Exactly. As long as the Honda isn't rusty. It's actually more reliable than the newer Honda's.
@@daltonhanleyjr4142 I had a 2001 Honda Accord from the same generation. I can confirm that it takes an impact well.
@@rrennnerr Yes they do. They are bullet proof especially if you have a 5 speed
And in 1998 flip phones were all a person needed. You still using one of those?
Was one of the safest cars. A lot bigger cars and SUV’s on the road now
To quote Guy Clark, “I got an old used car and it runs just like a top
I get the feelin' it ain't ever gonna stop”
I’m with the husband
he's wrong tho, there's a difference between frugal/practical and cheap, newer car will be much safer for the whole family and they can afford it easily...money have to serve a purpose
@@vamtewam5300 dave just said...that the safety is bull. She is updating for more luxury. It really is a want. NOTa need. But as dave says. They can affird it soooo. Yes she gets a newer car . .... HE can drive the old car.
@@vamtewam5300 This is actually not true at all. You would really have to go back to the early 70's to get something that one with a keen eye would call unsafe. Anything from the 90's is just as safe/sometimes safer than the current modern cars in a raw collision.
How the heck did past generations make it through the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s without airbags and ESC?? Please. Give him whichever he wants of the two you have and go buy something more up to your standards.
72 Buick , that IS safe
There aren’t as many cars and speed not so high back then.
@@pinkcharms Newtons second law plays the biggest role.
@@pinkcharmsumm because there weren't any real roads until the 50s....of course they went slow they'd tear up a suspension on old horse trails....
Actually a lot of them died. The idea that just because most people survived is insane. A lot of people have died without seatbelts and without safety structure, etc.
It's an absurd argument.
This conversation would have went a completely different way if it were a guy calling in and we all know that. That RAV4 is adequate enough, just don’t put the baby in the Honda.
That’s right I thought same exact thing I really respect Dave and ken and even worse John D they are big simps no doubt
He has been more direct to broke expecting moms that do this. I remember him berating a broke woman that HAD to have a minivan with rear headrests. Older minivans without headrests were considered unsafe to her and she wanted to go into debt to get a safe one. Dave’s reaction was hilarious.
Nah, Dave is harsher on cars than he is on men(husband, fathers).
The Honda is adequate enough too. If they didn't have the money they'd drive what they drive and not give it any thought.
Chicks sure love those RAV4's.
Recently gave my teenage son a 1991 Honda Accord wagon. Figured it was a great car for him to slowly improve his driving skills.
And for him to build up some humility.
Lucky kid! I had to buy my own
Those Accord wagons are hard to find
@@timothykeith1367 They didn’t sell very many of them.
Manual?
Better solution. Get a new car, don't sell either car. This gives both parents a backup vehicle if one goes down.
This was a very good discussion. I've made a lot of bad decisions over the years that have caused me problems. I'm in my mid-60's and Dave's advice has helped me so much. He makes financial matters and how to think about them so easy to understand. I have much more confidence in my ability to improve my situation and it is working. Thanks, Dave. Blessings.
Good luck man! I'm turning 50 in 6 months and feel the same way. Dave has pointed me in the right direction. I'm on the verge of becoming a baby steps millionaire. And, my average income since I was in my 20's has ranged from $28k to $37k. Never got ahead till the last 6 years.
In NYC city having two cars? They are also getting killed in taxes overall and car insurance with upgraded cars. Keep what you have and use the Rav4 as the family vee-hickle.
Forget taxes, they’re getting slaughtered in just parking
I do hate the safety argument. If you want your kids to be super safe in a car, buy a great car seat. Have a mechanic do a once over the anchor points and seat belt mechanisms. Get them serviced or fixed if they need it. There's your safety right there. A properly installed car seat does not rely on the car's safety features beyond anchor points and seat belts. If you're worried about whether you've installed the seat right, I believe some fire departments can inspect those? Not 100% sure, but I know many communities have a specialist floating around somewhere.
The 98 Honda doesn't have an anchor so she's not completely wrong that a newer car has more safety features
@@jonathangarmuth8975 Get a 1998 VW Golf then that was the first ever car to have seat anchors or as its actually called ISOFIX.
Fire departments or police departments can check the safety of car seats. It’s a clinic. But all they really do is check the owners manual.
Side impact regulations beefed up beginning in 2004. Impact standards required better structure and most cars got side airbags. Keep kid in the newer car.
That may be but everything is made of cheaper materials so they had to compensate by re-engineering the structure.
Oh yeah that’s why every year there’s recalls on airbags.
People are killed and maimed in new cars everyday.
I agree with the husband!!! Many older vehicles are better than the newer stuff they make now!!! I love Dave's comments since I grew up during that period as well!!
couldn't agree more, this electrical bs is for the birds!
@@ohmylanta9973 what electrical bs?
@@kbanghart New cars are all computers on wheels. The late 90s/early/mid 2000s cars are the best when it comes to old school driving dynamics mixed with decent safety systems.
The old cars break less but are considerably less safe.
@@edhcb9359 oh stop. You’re so full of baloney its ridiculous
Your husband is right, and you are wrong, princess!
A 98? He’s lucky to still be able to still have a car that old. Living in the rust belt most cars that age have a lot of rust issues.
His 98 accord will outlive him
@@flaqko5686 yes but what kind of life is it to drive in such an old Honda? Who will respect or appreciate him? No, he needs to get a proper car. One that tells the world he is a somebody. Not a nobody.
@@costco_pizza How many people do you think actually own the "proper car " that they're driving? Your car does not define you.Your income does not define you. Your relationship with God is what defines you.
@@costco_pizza He really drives a 401K, something you will never understand
@@costco_pizza _"yes but what kind of life is it to drive in such an old Honda? Who will respect or appreciate him? No, he needs to get a proper car. One that tells the world he is a somebody. Not a nobody."_
I know this your comment here is a year old from my comment here, but....
....Mindsets like this, are a large reason why so many people are drowning in auto loan debt.
Save the marriage: Let the husband drive whatever he wants. Let her drive whatever she wants.
Save the marriage: she gets a new car, he bangs a woman in her 20's
^^^ see how that works? 😂
If a disagreement about whether to buy a new car or not derails your marriage you don't have much of a marriage to begin with.
@@_Y.Not_ Financial incompatibility is the number one cause of divorce.
Minimalism is a virtue
Amen!
My grown kids are telling me to get a new car. I drive a 1999 Mustang convertible that I love. I'm retired, with a Roth, 401K, a pension and no debt for years. Happiness is not new things it is people in your life that you love.
If they had debt and were making way less, she would have lost the argument . I love it when women say “we need a new car because the safety is outdated for the baby”. When she was a baby her parents car wasn’t up to 2022 standards yet she survived . I had a 1999 accord and I remember even back then it passed safety standards years before it’s time.
180k versus 130k would change the situation? I don't think so. They don't have debt, and can afford a car.
@@dedalliance1 this conversation has nothing to do with whether or not they can afford the car.
@@dedalliance1 oh it’s the guy who thought he owned the road and almost ran that pour driver off the road . He had you beat why not let him over lol 😂. Cant take a troll seriously
@@dedalliance1 130k vs 180k is the difference between a 30k car and a 10k car.
Just because you make the money, doesn't mean you have the money.
Even without debt, you have other financial priorities to put extra money towards.
@@Ka_Gg I mean that's literally what the conversation is about. Why else would someone want to or not want to stick with a 1998 car? The question is do we upgrade and spend money upgrading, or continue to use what we have. Obviously the woman's motivation for upgrading is to have something newer and more safe for the baby. If they had a million dollars in the bank I'm sure it wouldn't be q conversation. I personally think if she wants to greatly impact the life of her child, put 30k you would spend on a new car into a college fund for 18 years and that kid will be able to go to Harvard if they want to. Getting into a car accident, in any vehicle is going to be very bad for a small child. Airbags don't help them because they're too small.
I have an 01 Volvo S/W that will run forever, no reason in the world to get rid of it. The last woman I dated hated it and couldn't understand why I wouldn't want to get a newer car. My Volvo helped me to see her true colors.
One of the (many) reasons I love my wife so much is because we both have the same financial outlook - we HATE having to spend money! 😂 You're on the right track with your dating, good luck!
As long as you are driving the RAV4 you should be fine. If it breaks down and you have to drive the Accord for a few days it's not the end of the world. For $30K though you can get a really nice used minivan.
That Accord will break before the RAV4 will.
@BeerMoneyforTokyoif it's all wheel drive that ain't stopping you lol just ignore the noise at least it'll still get you home aint like you gotta wait for a tow
@@PeterTrimbolielectrical tape over the dash warning light.
If they plan on having more kids, that’s not a bad plan at all.
To be fair, statistically, traffic safety improved dramatically during the 2000s. Anything 2010 or newer is very safe
Dave is so wrong here. a 1998 Accord was designed in the earliy 90s, probably based on a platform from the 80s. so a new car could be almost 40 years more adcanced in safety features. From chassis contruction, to air-bag tech, crash avoidance tech. Its night and day. An accident that you could walk away from in a new car might very well kill you in a car from the 90s, thats the truth
@@michaelherrickmusic You can be killed in a brand new car, happens everyday.
@@michaelherrickmusicThe back seat is still very safe in almost any car, the baby argument is what got me, she is trying to guilt trip her husband into doing something he doesn't want to do. This is where i dont like these rants. Imagine if the husband wanted the new car and SHE wanted to keep the old ones, i bet Dave would have read him the riot act for guilt tripping his wife.
To all the people commenting that she wants a brand new car so she can show off in the soccer-mom school carpool lane. You need to listen to the video. She said "new to us". She did not say brand new. She did not say she wanted to get rid of her 2008 Toyota RAV. She said she is not comfortable with her husband keeping his 1998 Honda Accord. She planned to keep her Toyota (at least until Dave suggested upgrading both cars). As Dave said, if you don't have any debt, make $180k/year and have $40k in savings, you can afford to upgrade a car that is almost 25 years old. Give the woman a break.
Its also not fair to him if he likes his old car, especially since she is trying to guilt trip him over "safety" concerns.
Even back in the "unsafe" days when car deaths were almost guaranteed in a bad crash, the baby in the back seat had a great chance of survival. The parents up front are the ones at risk in an older car, the baby is basically just as safe.
Now, if he complained about his car constantly, and she is sick of hearing it, then yes, he should upgrade.
But this rant sounds like she just doesn't like HIS car and is trying to validate her opinion to her husband by asking Dave Ramsey to agree to it (which im sure she knew he would...even if it were for different reasons).
Exactly what I’m thinking, they can afford it. People here are conflating upgrading to spending 60k+ on a car. They can easily upgrade for under 20k. New cars are absolutely safer too. A lot of incels are posting in here acting like it’s only the husband’s decision and the wife should fall in line. It’s pretty sad.
@@twoeightythreez98 is still safe compared to the 1980s, and 2010 cars are absolutely safer than a 98.
The age of the car is irrelevant if it's a long lasting vehicle like a 98 Honda Accord. It could easily last another 10 to 20 years if taken care of.
The kid would be in the rav4 not the honda so that is a false argument.
The husband is a smart man.
I drive a 2002 Buick Lesabre and its a good car. No reason to sell it. The fuel mileage is respectable for a 20 year old car and its still fairly dependable. Its a really nice example, good paint, decent interior, not beat up, no rust, so i see no reason to sell it as long as it stays comfortable and useful. Its safe, comfortable, economical, and it was cheap. I can do all the maintenance myself, and most of the repairs when needed. I have a spare truck that i can drive if and when the Buick needs repaired, so im keeping it until it becomes more expensive to fix than to buy another $1800 car. I like my truck, but its a toy. Its there when I need it but I dont depend on it and its not very much of an expense. My friends and family want me to buy a new car so I can save on gas. The Buick gets 27-29 mpg on the highway. A new Corolla would definitely be much better than that but not enough to justify spending $28k! Besides, theres something about driving on air shocks while listening to rock and roll cassettes with the seat leaned back that you cant get with a new Toyota lol.
That Buick has the 3800 V6, one of the most loved GM motors of all time
@@timothykeith1367 Fax
im sure its still a great car, I love old buicks typically owned by older guys who took great care of them since new, but see the issue for most guys is driving a car like that after say high school/college will almost repel women away from you, they will see that car and just think your grandfather gave it to you when you where 16 and thats all you've been able to afford, might actually have a better chance picking a girl up on the bus instead of an old man geezermobile Lesabre. No offense intended, I really do like buicks their a great value and 3800 v6 is dead reliable.
My wife thinks my 2005 lesabre is sexy
You are a smart man, and that 2002 Buick keeps the gold diggers away from you. I let my 1996 Grand Marquis go and I miss it! It grieves me to watch Cleetus McFarland destroy old cop cars.
Those are both absolutely solid cars!
I have the same gen Accord and wont get rid of it either. Great car. No issues ever.
Cost nothing for insurance or maintenance. Even after a guy crashed right into me with their newer avalon car, it barely did any damage at all to my car when the other guy totaled his car.
That’s because your body absorbed the impact while his car absorbed the impact.
The cars I shop for are old, rare, cool and rising in value.
The highest trims, the best engines, desirable colors, well matching wheels.
I think she just want's to buy a new car.
Which isn’t a problem since they have cash for it.
my 2000 Xterra finally died, thanks to Dave we had the ability to buy a new one we aren't worth 1 million but still paid cash (cashiers check) for a new car. now sporting a paid off '22 outback wilderness. no regrets.
I didn't realize 1998 Honda Accords were unsafe with their side airbags and metal frame. Sounds safer than newer cars.
After over 20 years. Think dufuss.
exactly. but she pregnant. the pregnant hormones, affecting her brain and thinking in light of keeping the baby safe at all costs, are are causing her to be blind to that
@@tracygaluszynski1868 20 years does not mean that all the safety features do not still work perfectly.
@@tracygaluszynski1868 Brand new cars can be lemons too & woe to those who end up with them. Tell me a brand new car that is 100% safe & prevents anyone from dying. Paul Walker died in a Porsche, Princess Diana from a wrecked Mercedes Benz & Anton Yelchin was pinned to his gate by his Jeep Cherokee when it rolled back.
@@tracygaluszynski1868 people fly in planes over 40 years old all the time and no one questions it.
Why replace a good paid for car for a new one? Still driving a 1984 car which spent $3600 repairs two years ago, very proud of maintaining said car as is the first ever repair besides tires, brakes and one complete exhaust system replacement.
Same. I put $3500 into preventative maintenance parts on my 2008 Honda FIT every 100,000 miles and I would take that car anywhere. New water pump, thermostat, belts, fluids, filters and wheel bearings.
Ever since my husband replaced our '08 VW's AC compressor (is that right? idk, he is so savvy!) by himself! I am ok with oldies. Plus, they have more parts available, newer cars have so much authorized repair BS. Amazing vehicle, when we don't have kids we can fool around in it. Need an SUV at some point, since three carseats cannot fit in our VW, but we're looking at older SUVs and making sure their issues are stuff we can take care of ourself.
Just gotta watch out for those rusty frames, he has a car that really was toast because the rust was bad on the frame, and not just surface stuff.
We doing cheap stuff until kids are moved out so they don't feel like cheap stuff is beneath them (and by cheap I don't mean the most sh*t, but not to get our fun sports cars or restored classics until they move out).
Late 90s honda has amazing reliability and cheapness to own, but she is 100% right that a new car is much safer in accident avoidance and survivability
I remember hearing this live on the radio on Monday and I started laughing hard at all the good points Sarah and Dave were making. Dave is sage when it comes to explanation and giving others wisdom. God bless him.
Not a James Bond movie, just taking a kid to daycare 😂😂😂
My ‘98 accord had over 350k miles on it.
I own two cars. One’s a 1998, the other’s a 2005. Both are well maintained.
I owe nothing on them. They will run for the foreseeable future.
It’s like they’re paying me to drive them, lol.
Uhhhh except for the money you put into them to run them...?
@@dackerman123He's getting use out of them. He's beating inflation and cost why using them until they cannot be used anymore. There's a reason older cars for sought after.
The husband should upgrade the wife.
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That would be a very low move.
But if you didn't go into marriage with a life-long commitment in mind, then you had no business getting married in the first place.
@@ChocolateHabanero22 Funny how you say that when the country has a 50% divorce rate. Wife didn't sound committed nor loyal enough in their marriage that she needed to call in & involve other people so she can get her way to "convince" the husband with what she wants. Husband is happy with his car, she's unhappy with it. Why take away the husband's happiness if she really loves him? She called in, he didn't.
@@leonaj.5835 From what I can judge based off the phone call, the wife needs to drop her pride and have contentment in their situation. Marriage is sacrificing one's will for the other, and when both the man and woman are doing neither, it is sure to end in catastrophe.
@@ChocolateHabanero22 Yes, that's true. People forget their marriage vows - they allegedly swear for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death do they part... New car doesn't mean safe nor better. People die in expensive new cars everyday. Besides, all that cancer-causing plastic fumes Benzene emitted in new cars when it's hot can't be good for a newborn baby (or anyone really), especially when cars are left under the sun.
She should have called a car show instead of a financial show! They've have agreed with her for sure.
I drive a 2007 model - looks and runs great!
2008 Honda fit sport. Still going strong!
Me too!
i daily drive a 32 year old car because... get this... it works... IT WORKS .. and its a toyota.. appreciate what you have that's still going.
As a licensed mechanic i just have to say. "New cars are made to break down quickly"
Anything past 2009 is getting into a engineered to fail territory.
Manufacturers make money from parts and service. Very little profit comes from the car itself. Hence they are incentiviezed to make newer cars last barely past the warranty period before major issues occur.
Nonsense. We have a 12 year old forerunner that has had 0 issues and looks/runs great.
@@brianrice1492 its a Toyota of course its going to be more reliable. Same goes for Honda.
with that said Most people try to buy new and flashy, not well built and reliable.
My original comment was geared towards the KIA, Dodge, Chrysler,Ford,Chevy etc crowd.
More tech and more intricate engines/ transmissions means more points of failure. usually electronic related.
So many people don't understand car safety and how much it's advanced since the 90s, crashes where people have died in older cars are now surviving in newer cars. Ask anyone that has worked for the emergency services long enough to see the difference in car safety. Also look up crash test videos between the same car but from different eras, its quite the eye opener. Also newer cars have isofix points for child seats which increases the safety and limits the type of injuries a small child gets.
As a career automotive technician, let me tell you dave doesn't know as much as he thinks he does about cars
He knows finances and knows that car payments only benefits the banks, not the buyers.
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Dave knows the finances of cars.
And as a guy who's worked on cars for more than forty years, older cars make great sense. I don't own anything other than my motorcycles that is less than 18 years old. You couldn't GIVE me a new vehicle. I do not WANT anything newer than about 2008, and then only a full size 3/4 ton or heavier truck or SUV.
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Dave doesn't know 💩 lol doesn't know cars or personal finance
@@AlanRoehrich9651early 2000s vehicles are where it's at.
Women: We need to upgrade to increase my social status
Men: It still works and does what its designed to do better than the new junk. No need to "upgrade"
Without knowing a lot more of the specifics of his Honda i.e. what kind of real condition it is in - my gut says to leave the money in the bank or whatever and just keep driving both the Honda & the Toyota. Were that a Ford and a GM product - nope.
Having a baby regardless and using it as an excuse to purchase different is wrong on to many levels.
Have some different relatives on both sides of the family who did this specifically and every single time there were major regrets later as after having a child they found out in the real world how expensive it really is in multiple ways!
The older Chevy's were and are awesome, but I'd agree that modern units are total trash.
@@ChocolateHabanero22 Thank you for the correction Luke as I should have stated more clearly that I meant newer Ford & Chevys - not the older ones! Good catch!!! :-)
A good example is the new Ford Broncos and the nice way they keep blowing up their engines - no thanks!
I drove my old Corolla for a decade, put 265k miles on it. Before that I drove everything from an old Dodge Neon to a V8 work van with no HVAC.
When my Corolla ECU died on the highway, and it was worth only $3k or so anyway, I finally said goodbye to the ol’ girl. That’s when I decided to buy a new car for the first time.
That said, you want to have the relevant savings, credit score (if financing), lack of debt, and importantly income to splurge on a car. There’s really no financial dilemma here; cars depreciate, you will lose money in the vast majority of cases. It’s more of a fun experience that you’re wasting money on, kind of like a more expensive vacation. Just make sure, as Dave said, that it’s not going to impact your financial progress. If it is going to, don’t do it. Keep saving and one day you’ll have the chance to make that bad decision if you want to.
Dave, can you cover the automobile repo surge that’s going on right now? All these 2020-2021 new car smell folks now can’t afford them and young people need to hear it. Again.
As the owner of a 2002 Cougar, I'm with the husband. They have enough cash on hand to buy a good 3-5 year old sedan with more modern safety equipment and still keep the Accord.
Since when did having a baby equal getting an suv?
Since the age of the soccer mom.
Since they’re significantly easier to get the baby out of the car. I had a Camry with my first. We upgraded to a Highlander when he was just under a year. Night a freaking day getting him out of the car.
And my Highlander has held up against two more kids. So it was and still remains a sound investment.
My dad has had his 08 Mazda CX-9 and it’s been paid off for years. He’s happy not having a car payment
Both great vehicles, money savers
the best vehicle is one that's paid off.
As a 65 year old woman, I grew up without baby seats or seat belts! But you should be able to get a much newer (not new) car that you will feel safer in with your baby. Go for it!
We as parents would go to jail now if we didn’t have a car seat or seat belts! Can’t leave the hospital without a car seat
@@Daffodils2Daisies the land of the free somehow
@@hiteshadhikari ha! Right
@@Daffodils2Daisies Yeah, things have changed a lot just since I was a kid. Kids back in the old days were tough. They weren't coddled like they are now and treated like they are glass and break really easily.
This entire thread is wild. Imagine being upset about car safety for children. If it was up to some of you people we’d still be using horse and carts. Ridiculous.
Yeah, I bought my first car 37 years ago, $300, it still works fine. Don't NEED another one. I've got about $4000 in it over all that time. A few want-to things, occasional need-to things.
1968 Corolla 1100, 2 door. I've kind of lost track of how many times the odometer has rolled over but it's at about 75,000 again. Not babied... go baby go.
Comes with ...a full size spare and jack. A small toolkit with a wheel wrench, wheel chock, 4 flat wrenches, pliers, spark plug wrench, a flat/Phillips's screwdriver.
And that will do basically anything you need to do from setting points to pulling the engine.
This woman should just be quiet.
The '98 is probably the safest vehicle haha.
Ive got a '94 truck. Im not getting rid of it till the wheels fall off.
I had an old farm truck, a 93 Chevy Cheyenne WT with a V6. Got it in 2007 for $2100 and paid cash for it. I couldn't afford to keep it on the insurance all year, so I would suspend the insurance in the winter and drive the beater work car. The truck had 106k miles and I only used it for hardware store runs, and DIY projects to fix up my duplex. Owned it for 13 + years and replaced the exhaust, wiper motor, water pump, brake lines, tires, oil pan, and the rest was routine maintenance. The truck was rusting apart by 2019 had 127k miles on it. So, I saved enough cash to buy a brand new Toyota 4Runner and traded in the Chevy.
You could be right
Don't sell either. Both are better built than any newer vehicle you could buy. Cars past mid-2000s era are Junk. Too many plastic parts and sensors.