Mark - your channel has been truly invaluable to me! I’ve watched SO many of your videos. I recently started a photography and videography company and your detailed reviews have truly shaved so much time off my learning curve. Thanks for being awesome!
The differences between the 1.8 and the 1.4 GM are worthy of consideration... once the photographer has their methodology, composition and process on lockdown. It's pretty easy (and fun, exciting, amusing, et al) to run down the rabbit hole of camera equipment superiority, but as far as I'm concerned, I've got a long way to go in building my shooting skills before dropping an extra $1.2k on a lens that has some subtle (yet powerful) differences. And the 5k+ viewers that have watched this video, I'd wager a good amount of them are in the same camp as me. TLDR the price of a G Master lens is worth it if you yourself are a G Master of photography.
I got the 35mm 1.8 (because at 35mm the difference between 1.4 and 1.8 is barely noticeable) and for my 85mm I went with a Sigma DG DN 1.4 ones because it costs only 1,100 EUR and it's a 85mm 1.4! My next lens will be either the 135mm 1.8 GM or the 70-200mm 2.8.
To be honest I don't think there is enough difference between the results from the lenses to warrant the price difference. I'd stick with the cheaper one. The GM just doesn't give enough of an improvement. That's just my opinion
Thanks for the video! I am torn between which lens to get. I ordered the Sony A7IV for my first camera. It is expensive but a firm investment. I mainly need it for vlogging and RUclips content/some street photography. I can only afford one lens at this time and although the GMasters are the best, they are too expensive. I'm going for either this 85mm or the Viltrox 85mm If you were in the same situation and you can only get one lens, which would you chose?
the 85 is really only good for portraits. (head and shoulder shots) or far away street photography. you will not be able to Vlog with it. If you’re only buying one lens and you want vlogging, RUclips and street photography, look at the Sony 20mm f1.8. it is the best lens for those purposes and has excellent quality - as good as the G-Masters. if you ever want an 85mm for portraits, look at the Sony 1.8 - it’s an amazing lens and one of the most affordable on the Sony lineup.
Damn second (third?), Glad you clarified the fur situation. Anyhoo, could you do a flare/chromatic aberration compare with strong sun/glare (a la potato jets 50mm compare yesterday, 3 min in on the motorcycle) because it really demonstrated to me how the Sony GM crushes it. ..and Christopher Frost.. clearly your channel is rapidly becoming the nexus of film!!
Probably the 56 because of its size and weight and that it translates to the 85mm focal length for normal portraits. Plus it’s 1.4 so you get a shallower depth of field and better lowlight. The 85 from Sony on the ZV-E10 will give you about a 130mm equivalent at f2.7 depth of field
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thanks for answering so fast. I appreciate it. I thought that the apertures of FF lenses are the same on APS-C bodies and 85mm f1.8 is equivalent to 130mm f1.8. But when it is f2.7 vs f1.4 than it is an easy choise :)
@@aydin.berlin it’s a 1.8 in terms of the lights - so same brightness. But in terms of depth of field (background blur) it is like a 2.7. But remember the Sigma 56 1.4 is equivalent to 85mm f2.1 (in terms of background blur)
Christopher Frost here... your channel is the greatest on the internet Mark :P 1.4 seems a bit overkill for the most part. The hooded menace may not enjoy the G Master purchase haha
I think the GM is a no brainer, if taking portraits is part of how you make a living. But I would be hard pressed to tell a difference if they aren’t side by side. For most people the extra $1200 could be used for all sorts of other useful equipment like lights and microphones.
If I were a portrait photographer I might consider the GM, but if it's not making me more money the extra 1200 could be put to better use ... I doubt anyone that sees anything I've ever shot would see the difference. in these lenses had I been shooting with them. My photographic subjects arent camera gear nerds.
Hey Mark. One request. If possible, please do. Compare the 85mm 1.8 (non g master) with the Signa 56 1.4 using both in an apsc body. I am debating between these. I know for sure Sigma is excellent, but wondering if the extra mm of Sony might come in handy, because i like shooting far distances like buildings and scenaries. Also, will help if i upgrade to ff later. Overall, besides price, what would be the disadvantage of getting sony 85 1.8 instead of Signa 56 1.4 fir sony apsc? Thanks 😊
I use the 85 all the time for slo mo shots on the zv-e10 and for street photography. but it’s very far away so taking portraits of people requires you to back up quite a bit. the 56 would be better for portraits.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis understood. Thats what I was worried about, the working distance between me and the subject. I'll go with 56 i think. Tha ks again fkr your reply. 😊
Hey, I have an off topic question: Did you come across any overheating problems while filming with the A7iv? I recently saw your overheating test with Doug (ZV E10) and was wondering if you could do a similar video with the a7iv?
I have had not overheating issues. But, because I knew others had issues, I tried using the menus with the screen closed and I managed to get the overheat warning on, but with the screen open it was ok. I told Sony about it and they said they know and are working on an update.
Good review, funny as always… but I’ll stick with my Sigma 85mm 1.4 DG DN 😉 Cheaper, smaller, lighter, fast silent AF (unlike the GM) in video and just as sharp as the GM 🤗
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis If you get your hands on one soon you’ll definitely make a comparison video, you’ll send the GM back and buy the Sigma. The wife will be happy because you’re such a money saver and you’ll be like ‘ oh no honey, see, I need that extra money for the Sony 135 1.8 GM ‘ 😂 This GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) is a never ending story…
I got the 85 1.8 and shortly after the Rokinon 85 1.4 on a Black Friday sale for $500 on Amazon. I noticed the Rokinon was warmer and truer colours…and surprisingly sharper. But, the Sony does have more reliable focus in low light. But something draws me to the Sony more. Maybe it’s haunted and I’m possessed.
I actually made that video. Basically, the A7C is better in almost every way except that it’s more expensive. if the A7C is in your budget, I would get that, ruclips.net/video/enT_oANphX4/видео.html
This video is hilarious. I'd love to see you compare the Batis lens. Also, I wonder if there will be a mark 2 version of the GM in the near future with their new linear focusing motors
Hoi Mark,nice video thank you.Why dont you make a video between 2 sony 35mm f1.8 lenses?The cheaper one of 350,00 dollars and the other one 600,00 dollars one?With ZV-E10 everybody buys the cheap one and he have o.i.s..I have that lens and he works very good with ZV-E10.Even with electronic slider this Sony 35mm f1.8 lens track the subject very good.i never took him on street but its also a good street fotografie lens.He cost in europe 350,00 euro's i think in the rest of the world also 350,00 dollars.
My wife would not justify $1200 more for better bokeh and too sharp lens shows too much wrinkles. You can of course get tiffen mist filter or for much less money, use a kit lens that is soft by itself. Great lenses and if you earn money 💰 doing portraits sure will pay off.
Honestly, I do not see enough of a difference between ANY of the FE and G Master lenses to justify the giant crevice that separates them price wise. I just don't. Now, if you are the ONLY one that will ever see your videos or look at your photographs, then sure, go for it. Pixel peep until your head blows up. But, I wouldn't waste money on lenses that cost as much and sometimes MORE than the cameras they're designed for. Camera companies create these near identical lenses because they know people always assume that you "get what you pay for". And yes, in most circumstances, that is true. But, when it comes to FE lenses and G Master lenses, I just don't see it.
1. The win in the battle for picture 2 actually goes to the 1.8. The GM wins the war, though, I agree. 2. Recognizing the potential creepiness of this statement (which is unintended): if the model is who she is purported to be, well done sir.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Really? I don't know about that. Thanks... I love your speech. It's very comprehensible. Looking forward to watching a new video...
Your consistency is impressive! Loving the content!
Got the 1.8 a while back, love it so far 👌
It’s really quite amazing - and for the price - astounding.
Mark - your channel has been truly invaluable to me! I’ve watched SO many of your videos. I recently started a photography and videography company and your detailed reviews have truly shaved so much time off my learning curve. Thanks for being awesome!
The differences between the 1.8 and the 1.4 GM are worthy of consideration... once the photographer has their methodology, composition and process on lockdown. It's pretty easy (and fun, exciting, amusing, et al) to run down the rabbit hole of camera equipment superiority, but as far as I'm concerned, I've got a long way to go in building my shooting skills before dropping an extra $1.2k on a lens that has some subtle (yet powerful) differences. And the 5k+ viewers that have watched this video, I'd wager a good amount of them are in the same camp as me. TLDR the price of a G Master lens is worth it if you yourself are a G Master of photography.
this is why I don’t have one 🤣
Big up Christopher Frost man knows hes stuff. Thank you for the video
I was glad to get him to give him a little exposure on a popular channel.
I got the 35mm 1.8 (because at 35mm the difference between 1.4 and 1.8 is barely noticeable) and for my 85mm I went with a Sigma DG DN 1.4 ones because it costs only 1,100 EUR and it's a 85mm 1.4! My next lens will be either the 135mm 1.8 GM or the 70-200mm 2.8.
Good choices - that sigma 85 1.4 seems to be everyone's favourite!!
I love my Sigma 85mm DG DN. I may keep it forever, but I’m intrigued at the possibility of a Sony 85mm GM II in the future.
@@DavidStella yes - the sigma seems the best 85 right now - but the Sony is definitely due for a refresh
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis it’s not perfect but it is great. Is it the best, though? I don’t know about that, but maybe it is lol
My man, you're the best making videos
To be honest I don't think there is enough difference between the results from the lenses to warrant the price difference. I'd stick with the cheaper one. The GM just doesn't give enough of an improvement. That's just my opinion
I agree with your opinion. I might check out the sigma 1.4 and see what that looks like
Here. here.
Mark's wife thinks the same😅
@@visionprodvisionprod8426 who told you??
Thanks for the video!
I am torn between which lens to get. I ordered the Sony A7IV for my first camera. It is expensive but a firm investment. I mainly need it for vlogging and RUclips content/some street photography. I can only afford one lens at this time and although the GMasters are the best, they are too expensive. I'm going for either this 85mm or the Viltrox 85mm
If you were in the same situation and you can only get one lens, which would you chose?
the 85 is really only good for portraits. (head and shoulder shots) or far away street photography. you will not be able to Vlog with it. If you’re only buying one lens and you want vlogging, RUclips and street photography, look at the Sony 20mm f1.8. it is the best lens for those purposes and has excellent quality - as good as the G-Masters. if you ever want an 85mm for portraits, look at the Sony 1.8 - it’s an amazing lens and one of the most affordable on the Sony lineup.
85 is only good for portraits
Damn second (third?), Glad you clarified the fur situation. Anyhoo, could you do a flare/chromatic aberration compare with strong sun/glare (a la potato jets 50mm compare yesterday, 3 min in on the motorcycle) because it really demonstrated to me how the Sony GM crushes it. ..and Christopher Frost.. clearly your channel is rapidly becoming the nexus of film!!
Yes - lens flare a la Potato Jet is a great idea. Will implement. The potato shows the way.
Great review. I have a question. Which lens would you choose between sony 85mm 1.8 and sigma 56mm 1.4 for ZV-E10?
Probably the 56 because of its size and weight and that it translates to the 85mm focal length for normal portraits. Plus it’s 1.4 so you get a shallower depth of field and better lowlight. The 85 from Sony on the ZV-E10 will give you about a 130mm equivalent at f2.7 depth of field
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thanks for answering so fast. I appreciate it.
I thought that the apertures of FF lenses are the same on APS-C bodies and 85mm f1.8 is equivalent to 130mm f1.8.
But when it is f2.7 vs f1.4 than it is an easy choise :)
@@aydin.berlin it’s a 1.8 in terms of the lights - so same brightness. But in terms of depth of field (background blur) it is like a 2.7. But remember the Sigma 56 1.4 is equivalent to 85mm f2.1 (in terms of background blur)
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you very much for the explanation :)
Christopher Frost here... your channel is the greatest on the internet Mark :P
1.4 seems a bit overkill for the most part. The hooded menace may not enjoy the G Master purchase haha
I've held off... for now
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis The cameo that you clearly didn't do yourself was awesome! Sparked some comedy genius there 🙂 OM-1 over G-Master!
I think the GM is a no brainer, if taking portraits is part of how you make a living. But I would be hard pressed to tell a difference if they aren’t side by side. For most people the extra $1200 could be used for all sorts of other useful equipment like lights and microphones.
agree. Although the Sigma 1.4 85mm might be the best of all according to some.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Exactly, Don't buy the Sony it's not worth it.
Unless you want to wait for the rumored 85 f1.2
GREAT CONTENT,
May I know the camera ,the lens and the light which you are using for your studio.
That would have been the A7iv and the Sony 35mm 1.8
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@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thanks bro,
It is so beautiful.
If I were a portrait photographer I might consider the GM, but if it's not making me more money the extra 1200 could be put to better use ... I doubt anyone that sees anything I've ever shot would see the difference. in these lenses had I been shooting with them. My photographic subjects arent camera gear nerds.
makes perfect sense to me, J.R.!!
The weight of the 1.4 is kind of absurd unless you're doing a specific shoot or a shoot in a studio. Lugging it around all day would be cumbersome.
it is huge - hopefully the new one will be significantly smaller
Hey Mark. One request. If possible, please do. Compare the 85mm 1.8 (non g master) with the Signa 56 1.4 using both in an apsc body. I am debating between these. I know for sure Sigma is excellent, but wondering if the extra mm of Sony might come in handy, because i like shooting far distances like buildings and scenaries. Also, will help if i upgrade to ff later. Overall, besides price, what would be the disadvantage of getting sony 85 1.8 instead of Signa 56 1.4 fir sony apsc? Thanks 😊
I use the 85 all the time for slo mo shots on the zv-e10 and for street photography. but it’s very far away so taking portraits of people requires you to back up quite a bit. the 56 would be better for portraits.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis understood. Thats what I was worried about, the working distance between me and the subject. I'll go with 56 i think. Tha ks again fkr your reply. 😊
plesdr dont give up drinking beer!! it looks anazing on camera! i really like it!!
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Hey, I have an off topic question: Did you come across any overheating problems while filming with the A7iv?
I recently saw your overheating test with Doug (ZV E10) and was wondering if you could do a similar video with the a7iv?
I have had not overheating issues. But, because I knew others had issues, I tried using the menus with the screen closed and I managed to get the overheat warning on, but with the screen open it was ok. I told Sony about it and they said they know and are working on an update.
I think we need more Christopher Frost, seems like he drinks a lot less apple juice than Mark
He's a clear thinker for sure. So refined.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 😂
I like the comedy in the first 2 minutes!
Thanks. I’m a bit of a fool 🤣👍
Good review, funny as always… but I’ll stick with my Sigma 85mm 1.4 DG DN 😉 Cheaper, smaller, lighter, fast silent AF (unlike the GM) in video and just as sharp as the GM 🤗
A lot of people prefer that lens - I'm going to have to check it out.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis If you get your hands on one soon you’ll definitely make a comparison video, you’ll send the GM back and buy the Sigma. The wife will be happy because you’re such a money saver and you’ll be like ‘ oh no honey, see, I need that extra money for the Sony 135 1.8 GM ‘ 😂 This GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) is a never ending story…
@@sharpfocused5710 nah GM colors and accurate shots outweigh the sigma
I got the 85 1.8 and shortly after the Rokinon 85 1.4 on a Black Friday sale for $500 on Amazon. I noticed the Rokinon was warmer and truer colours…and surprisingly sharper. But, the Sony does have more reliable focus in low light. But something draws me to the Sony more. Maybe it’s haunted and I’m possessed.
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Sony have very bad colors and everybody knows that.People buy sony for autofocus.Me also from panasonic to sony
Hello please can you tell me how different between Sony zv e10 and Sony Sony 7c and which one should get for video
I actually made that video. Basically, the A7C is better in almost every way except that it’s more expensive. if the A7C is in your budget, I would get that, ruclips.net/video/enT_oANphX4/видео.html
Have you tried Tokina/Viltrox 85mm f1.8? They look quite good and inexpensive. Would be good to know how they pair with zve10. Great reviews btw :)
The 85 would be about 135mm on the ZV-e10 (full frame equiv). I haven’t tested them out, but I like Viltrox a lot and I’ll try to get them in
Christopher Frost - Gold! 🤣 He should be worried… lol
He’s welcome back anytime.
I never liked a video this fast!
You are an excellent person
This video is hilarious. I'd love to see you compare the Batis lens. Also, I wonder if there will be a mark 2 version of the GM in the near future with their new linear focusing motors
I think the GM needs an update - I’m sure it’s in the works.
… great Review, as always here on the channel! 👍🏻 Thx! The GM is a great lens. Hopefully Sony will launch a 1.2 version. 😏
Fingers crossed!
Lol! You might want to try some Stand-Up on the side.
This is really an awesome lense 👍🏻😉
Hoi Mark,nice video thank you.Why dont you make a video between 2 sony 35mm f1.8 lenses?The cheaper one of 350,00 dollars and the other one 600,00 dollars one?With ZV-E10 everybody buys the cheap one and he have o.i.s..I have that lens and he works very good with ZV-E10.Even with electronic slider this Sony 35mm f1.8 lens track the subject very good.i never took him on street but its also a good street fotografie lens.He cost in europe 350,00 euro's i think in the rest of the world also 350,00 dollars.
My wife would not justify $1200 more for better bokeh and too sharp lens shows too much wrinkles. You can of course get tiffen mist filter or for much less money, use a kit lens that is soft by itself. Great lenses and if you earn money 💰 doing portraits sure will pay off.
I just dont see the round bokeh you speak of
you forgot the howdi again everyone
I’m not sure the reference - but now I’m super curious.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis the few first seconds of christofer review
@@BeZRules hahaha - yes of course - had a late night. I am watching a Frost video about the Sigmas right now!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis apple juice effect
@@BeZRules 🤣🍺🍺🍺
01:10 😂😂
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Honestly, I do not see enough of a difference between ANY of the FE and G Master lenses to justify the giant crevice that separates them price wise. I just don't.
Now, if you are the ONLY one that will ever see your videos or look at your photographs, then sure, go for it. Pixel peep until your head blows up. But, I wouldn't waste money on lenses that cost as much and sometimes MORE than the cameras they're designed for. Camera companies create these near identical lenses because they know people always assume that you "get what you pay for". And yes, in most circumstances, that is true. But, when it comes to FE lenses and G Master lenses, I just don't see it.
The enemy within will always whisper buy the GM!
Oh when I was mature I picked up a bargain Sigma 85 1.4 E mount - huge n chunky but excellent
yes - the sigma is likely the best 85 for sony period. Good choice!!
6:20 Bro there literally no difference. Also the GM is really old lens and it is very slow focusing whilst making a lot of noises.
1. The win in the battle for picture 2 actually goes to the 1.8. The GM wins the war, though, I agree. 2. Recognizing the potential creepiness of this statement (which is unintended): if the model is who she is purported to be, well done sir.
She’s made some mistakes 🤣🤣
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thankfully they do! 🤠
Apple juice always funny 😂🤣
wow you were fast 🤣🤣
Good stuff, enjoy your apple juice btw 😝
Always do 🍻cheers
What's your mother tongue?
sadly, English is the only language I know. I’m from the east coast of canada.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Really? I don't know about that. Thanks... I love your speech. It's very comprehensible.
Looking forward to watching a new video...
LOL