85mm is by far my favorite lens I shoot with and its a 1.8. It's just something about the compression and separation from the background that makes it a dream lens.
One should know that 99% of portrait and fashion photographers are using focal lengths of 85mm or longer. Standard 'portrait" lenses have been produced in 85mm, 105mm, and 135mm focal lengths. A 85mm provides a comfortable working distance and adequate field of view when shooting indoors. A 24-120mm zoom provides full coverage in a single inexpensive (relatively) lens. Working distance is important when photographing most people as a 50mm lens means getting twice as close and most people will stiffen when their personal space is intruded upon by someone with a camera.
Very interesting. I don't think there is a clear winner: to me, some of the 50mm photos - with more background in them - looked better than the corresponding 85mm: the incorporated background added something that was missing in the 85mm. In others, the 85mm looked better because the background in the 50mm was distracting or ugly. But I guess that's exactly the point you are making. Thanks for the video.
My current setup is 20mm f2.8, 40mm f2, and 105mm f1.4 The 105 never goes from my main body, I always have a story to tell with compression, but if I want to tell where my talent is the 20mm really tells a story different enough from 24mm hence why I picked it. Thank you for the video!
Can you talk about group photos or family shots and how to take sharp and having all subjects in focus during these type of photos? During natural light or low light situations?
I love the 50/1.4gm for an everyday look, maybe the 35 or 24mm didn't take my heart. But for portrait I prefer 85mm or also 70-200/2.8 II GM. Even the object feels more comfortable when I have a distance.
Thank you for the clear comparison in my opinion. After this, I found the 50 lens allows for shooting more diverse shots, such as depth of field, photography indoors, people in green nature, and photography from below, with sharpness, focus, and appearance, while the 85 gives isolation and a modern look, and for photographing the most beautiful people on the street.
I also really enjoy shooting with the combination of a 35mm and 85mm. I tend to use 50mm more as the only lens in a photoshoot but yes, sometimes I'm in the mood to shoot with the 50mm as well. The only thing I don't enjoy so much about the current 85mm GMaster is the minimum focusing distance. In a new version a significant improvement in this regard would be the main selling point for me.
Great video as always,I would usually use an 85 for shoots.Although I have used a 50 on occasions and it allows me to get different perspectives such as shooting from below.
Hey Julia 🌻 I learnt today from this video I've been holding my camera body with the 85mm the wrong way for portraits 😅 thanks for another great video!
The 50mm lenses I use are manual focus lenses. Light lens lab Elcan which weighs just 230 grams, small but solid for its size. It has the sort of analogue or vintage look that I like over the super sharp new 50mm. It is easily the lens that I can take around for street photos. I also use 58mm F1.4. Voitgalander.
Very nice comparison and opinion. However I wish the 50mm and 85mm shots had been processed the same - often the 50mm looked cooler & under-exposed in comparison to the processing on the 85mm. Thanks !
@JuliaTrotti Oh, so many thoughts here! You read my mind again. I keep waiting for that amazing 85 1.2, and look longingly at Canon portrait photographers who get one. Supposedly there *is* a new 85 coming out soon, but it's supposed to be a new 1.4, not the 1.2! The 85 was my very favorite lens...until I got the 135 1.8. I still love it, but I find that it can't quite keep up with some of my faster moving subjects like Sony's newer portrait GMs can. One thing I'm really split on is sharpness. Of the 35 1.4, 50 1.2, 85 1.4, and 135 1.8, the 85 is the softest. Sometimes, I love that it is, because that makes for wonderfully soft, dreamy, and easier to retouch portraits. But sometimes, I feel better about the world when my subjects come out super sharp, even when shooting wide open. So where do you stand on soft and dreamy vs. sharp and 3D poppy (the great cultural debate of our time...)? Are you going to get the new 85 1.4 when it comes out, or hold out for the 1.2? And did any penguins sneak into this shoot? :-)
I prefer 50mm, especially f1.2, to 35mm for portraits, just stepping back a bit for lovely environmental shots. For main portraits, 85 or 105 and for tight head shots, the 135mm or 200 f2..
For pure portraits, the 80mm is better but when I'm doing events and I need a fast lens, the 80mm is too tight and I end up having to be too far away especially if I have to use a body mounted flash. So I have a 50mm because of its flexibility. Nice work, thanks for the video.
Could you make a video comparing Sony cameras? Probably Sony a7 4 vs A7 r5. Comparing practicality. I have Sony A7 4. I noticed that very often you use your a7 4. Is that your favorite camera? Thank you
Theoretically the 85mm has a lot going for it but in practice I actually prefer 50mm it just makes people look more natural to me. And a 50mm lens is more useful when you consider other types of photography that you may be using your lens for.
I totally agree with you that 85 is like a 50 but bigger and better in every way, the weird thing is in this video, I almost always preferred the 50mm, I don’t know if it’s due to the 1.2 having more of that slight ‘bokeh swirl’ in the corners that really draw the eye In, or the slight distortion that the 50mm has, kind of makes the 85 look flat from time to time. I’m a canon shooter so I love my RF 85 1.2 and 50 1.2, i use an adapter Tamron 35mm 1.4, and an old Ef 135mm f2. I think 50 is maybe my favourite ‘default lens’, so I wonder if I should get the new RF 135 f1.8 to compliment it more… the solution is almost ALWAYS to buy more gear, right? 😂👍
I heard rumors of the Sony 85mm f1.2 coming soon. Sony might pull it off. But Nikon F mount is also a small mount and they never made a 85mm f1.4 and the F mount is larger then the E mount. There are a few Sony lens I don't like the bokeh one is the Sony 70-200mm f2.8 at 70mm the bokeh is busy and the 600mm I've seen for wildlife had some bokeh that was not that great. Most of all the newer Sony lens are really good but Sony does have to work harder in designing lens for a small mount. If you look at the Nikon 135mm f1.8 the lens is perfect and covers the sensor just right. Panasonic has made some very nice smaller lens. There is rumor of a Sony 24-70mm f2.0
@@Rocky_KO I know I said that. But they never made a f1.2. Maybe Sony can pull it off or not? Who knows time will tell. There was a third party 85mm f1.2 for Nikon manual focus it was one of the Chinese lens. It was not as good as the Nikon lens.
Personally I like the perspective of the 50mm. The 85 simply isolates too much and makes boring photos and flat. and the good examples in your video show this well
Can't you take the exact same perspective with a 85 though? You'd just have to take a few steps back. I think the difference is more about how close or far you want to be able to shoot your subjects from rather than then end result itself (also she said in the video (at 3:05), you can get the same look on the 85 by adjusting the aperture)
I prefer the 85mm for the more intimate shots, or even longer (105mm, 135mm, 180mm, 200mm). Of course with 180mm and 200mm you are at an awkward distance.
@@terrymcnavage5104 I shoot Nikon and Canon. I like the Sigma Art glass and the Nikon DC lenses. I have some vintage lenses in those focal lengths too. I've no idea which Sony lens is best.
I am still torn between 50mm and 85mm.. I do have many reason why but I think the 50mm is more like the middle ground when it comes to walking in close and stepping back a little bit. I think if I do portrait shots using 85mm on a small space then there would be no head room unlike the 50mm there still a little bit of it.
What about nothing 2a as it uses Google's algorithm ultra hdr to process photos has same sensor size as pixel 8 pro with more stable tsmc chip plz make a comparison video of it ❤
50 is a great all around focal length but it will only shine if it has an aperture of f/1.4 or faster otherwise you rather want to go for 85mm f/1.8 as it gives more pleasing background compression even at f/2.8. Anything wider than 50mm is not a portrait lens imo.
I just do not know why anyone will use a 50mm Lens on a full frame Camera for portraits !!! The 85mm are the "perfect" Lens on full frame Camera for portraits. But maybe it could be because the first digttal DSLR cameras was APSC size sensor, at that time the 50mm Lens got popular. I have never liked the 50mm focal length for a full frame Camera in my more than 4 decades of photographer !
I'd like to have a Sigma f/1.4 for my Canon for many uses but for portraits... 85mm forever. It's the focal length that more resembles the way I see with my eyes. By the way I'd really love taking some portraits to your beautiful cute face
Juliet oh Juliet !!! ❤❤🩹❤❤🩹❤ The night was magic when we first met Juliet, oh Juliet You know you taught me to fly You take me clear to the sky And all the people around the world can stand aside For me and my baby, Juliet 💋💋💋
85mm is by far my favorite lens I shoot with and its a 1.8. It's just something about the compression and separation from the background that makes it a dream lens.
One should know that 99% of portrait and fashion photographers are using focal lengths of 85mm or longer. Standard 'portrait" lenses have been produced in 85mm, 105mm, and 135mm focal lengths. A 85mm provides a comfortable working distance and adequate field of view when shooting indoors. A 24-120mm zoom provides full coverage in a single inexpensive (relatively) lens.
Working distance is important when photographing most people as a 50mm lens means getting twice as close and most people will stiffen when their personal space is intruded upon by someone with a camera.
Brilliant and timely Julia..was contemplating between 50 and 80mm F1.4....picked the latter this week and your review helps immensely 🤟
Did you mean 85mm? 😬
@@balderoine Haha yes..85mm.
Sigma Art 85mm 1.4 Lens was the first lens I bought when I switched to Sony. I love it.
Good Morning Julia ! I like the accentuation on the individual more on the 50MM 📸 ! Some beautiful shots you took. Have a wonderful day 😊 !
Very interesting. I don't think there is a clear winner: to me, some of the 50mm photos - with more background in them - looked better than the corresponding 85mm: the incorporated background added something that was missing in the 85mm. In others, the 85mm looked better because the background in the 50mm was distracting or ugly. But I guess that's exactly the point you are making. Thanks for the video.
My current setup is 20mm f2.8, 40mm f2, and 105mm f1.4
The 105 never goes from my main body, I always have a story to tell with compression, but if I want to tell where my talent is the 20mm really tells a story different enough from 24mm hence why I picked it. Thank you for the video!
Love your background music 😂❤❤. 😂 On a serious note, I just bought both the Nikkor Z50mm f/1.8 S and the YN85mm F1.8. Both lenses are outstanding ❤
Definitely choosing the 85! Canon 85mm 1.2 to be exact 🔥
Thank you for that great comparison! 85 for me, or even 105.🙂
Can you talk about group photos or family shots and how to take sharp and having all subjects in focus during these type of photos? During natural light or low light situations?
I love the 50/1.4gm for an everyday look, maybe the 35 or 24mm didn't take my heart. But for portrait I prefer 85mm or also 70-200/2.8 II GM. Even the object feels more comfortable when I have a distance.
My favorite lenses for portraits and family shots.❤🎉
Love these comparison shots between the 50 and 85
Thank you!
I would like to see a video on the 105mm GM.
Hey Julia! Just wanted to ask how you recorded the lcd screen, I don't see any external connections. Thanks!
Stunning!😍
Thank you for the clear comparison in my opinion. After this, I found the 50 lens allows for shooting more diverse shots, such as depth of field, photography indoors, people in green nature, and photography from below, with sharpness, focus, and appearance, while the 85 gives isolation and a modern look, and for photographing the most beautiful people on the street.
I also really enjoy shooting with the combination of a 35mm and 85mm. I tend to use 50mm more as the only lens in a photoshoot but yes, sometimes I'm in the mood to shoot with the 50mm as well. The only thing I don't enjoy so much about the current 85mm GMaster is the minimum focusing distance. In a new version a significant improvement in this regard would be the main selling point for me.
Very good comparison and great images as always!
May I ask what brand is the dual camera strap you are using in this video?
Great video as always,I would usually use an 85 for shoots.Although I have used a 50 on occasions and it allows me to get different perspectives such as shooting from below.
Great video, thanks! Would you make a review of the camera straps you use?
I remember my first time I used an 85 & ive never been without once since ... love the look of my Samyang 85mm f1.4 mk1 especially for video
Hey Julia 🌻 I learnt today from this video I've been holding my camera body with the 85mm the wrong way for portraits 😅 thanks for another great video!
85mm looks so good 😍
Many thanks for this comparison, very informative. 🤝☺
The 50mm lenses I use are manual focus lenses. Light lens lab Elcan which weighs just 230 grams, small but solid for its size. It has the sort of analogue or vintage look that I like over the super sharp new 50mm. It is easily the lens that I can take around for street photos. I also use 58mm F1.4. Voitgalander.
did you ever used the viewfinder?
Such a good video 🔥
Very nice comparison and opinion. However I wish the 50mm and 85mm shots had been processed the same - often the 50mm looked cooler & under-exposed in comparison to the processing on the 85mm. Thanks !
@JuliaTrotti Oh, so many thoughts here! You read my mind again. I keep waiting for that amazing 85 1.2, and look longingly at Canon portrait photographers who get one. Supposedly there *is* a new 85 coming out soon, but it's supposed to be a new 1.4, not the 1.2! The 85 was my very favorite lens...until I got the 135 1.8. I still love it, but I find that it can't quite keep up with some of my faster moving subjects like Sony's newer portrait GMs can. One thing I'm really split on is sharpness. Of the 35 1.4, 50 1.2, 85 1.4, and 135 1.8, the 85 is the softest. Sometimes, I love that it is, because that makes for wonderfully soft, dreamy, and easier to retouch portraits. But sometimes, I feel better about the world when my subjects come out super sharp, even when shooting wide open. So where do you stand on soft and dreamy vs. sharp and 3D poppy (the great cultural debate of our time...)? Are you going to get the new 85 1.4 when it comes out, or hold out for the 1.2? And did any penguins sneak into this shoot? :-)
Julia! I would love to see you review sigma 24-70 with Sony 7iv
And I hope this happens thank you 🙏
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I like 50mm cause it’s bringing more story when we travel while 85mm will not show much surroundings
Very nice Comparison of lenses.
Great video, also still waiting on Sony to deliver that 85 1.2 😂
I prefer 50mm, especially f1.2, to 35mm for portraits, just stepping back a bit for lovely environmental shots. For main portraits, 85 or 105 and for tight head shots, the 135mm or 200 f2..
Hey Julia, or anyone willing to help. Can you share the link to that back strap you have to hold your cameras. It’s so fire and fashionable.
For pure portraits, the 80mm is better but when I'm doing events and I need a fast lens, the 80mm is too tight and I end up having to be too far away especially if I have to use a body mounted flash. So I have a 50mm because of its flexibility. Nice work, thanks for the video.
Could you make a video comparing Sony cameras?
Probably Sony a7 4 vs A7 r5.
Comparing practicality.
I have Sony A7 4. I noticed that very often you use your a7 4. Is that your favorite camera?
Thank you
Fantastic video!
I find that I use the 50mm 1.4 or the 70-200mm when it comes to portraits. I only use the 85mm when it gets dark.
How do you do the backlight photos without a flash and still not blowing the highlights in the background. I wonder in every video.
shutter speed control and fixed iso (Auto iso is the death of golden hour)
Theoretically the 85mm has a lot going for it but in practice I actually prefer 50mm it just makes people look more natural to me. And a 50mm lens is more useful when you consider other types of photography that you may be using your lens for.
Best.. good job.. before buy any of both..i have learnt
Nice ❤❤
I prefer 85mm over 50mm. I think the good thing about the 50 is that it's inbetween a 35 and 85, but I deffo prefer how the 85 makes you look.
Why are you using such a high ISO? The shutter speed is high enough for sports but she isn’t moving very fast.
I totally agree with you that 85 is like a 50 but bigger and better in every way, the weird thing is in this video, I almost always preferred the 50mm, I don’t know if it’s due to the 1.2 having more of that slight ‘bokeh swirl’ in the corners that really draw the eye In, or the slight distortion that the 50mm has, kind of makes the 85 look flat from time to time.
I’m a canon shooter so I love my RF 85 1.2 and 50 1.2, i use an adapter Tamron 35mm 1.4, and an old Ef 135mm f2.
I think 50 is maybe my favourite ‘default lens’, so I wonder if I should get the new RF 135 f1.8 to compliment it more… the solution is almost ALWAYS to buy more gear, right? 😂👍
I heard rumors of the Sony 85mm f1.2 coming soon. Sony might pull it off. But Nikon F mount is also a small mount and they never made a 85mm f1.4 and the F mount is larger then the E mount.
There are a few Sony lens I don't like the bokeh one is the Sony 70-200mm f2.8 at 70mm the bokeh is busy and the 600mm I've seen for wildlife had some bokeh that was not that great.
Most of all the newer Sony lens are really good but Sony does have to work harder in designing lens for a small mount. If you look at the Nikon 135mm f1.8 the lens is perfect and covers the sensor just right. Panasonic has made some very nice smaller lens. There is rumor of a Sony 24-70mm f2.0
There is a Nikon 85mm 1.4 for F mount.
@@Rocky_KO I know I said that. But they never made a f1.2.
Maybe Sony can pull it off or not? Who knows time will tell.
There was a third party 85mm f1.2 for Nikon manual focus it was one of the Chinese lens. It was not as good as the Nikon lens.
I m from India, very helpful video
Very nice friend ❤❤❤❤
I will buy 85mm for yoga video filming. Thanks
Personally I like the perspective of the 50mm. The 85 simply isolates too much and makes boring photos and flat. and the good examples in your video show this well
Can't you take the exact same perspective with a 85 though? You'd just have to take a few steps back.
I think the difference is more about how close or far you want to be able to shoot your subjects from rather than then end result itself
(also she said in the video (at 3:05), you can get the same look on the 85 by adjusting the aperture)
Amazing sister ❤
Pure portrait 85mm
Story background + portrait 50mm
I prefer the 85mm for the more intimate shots, or even longer (105mm, 135mm, 180mm, 200mm). Of course with 180mm and 200mm you are at an awkward distance.
Do you like the 105mm Sony GM or 135mm Sony GM better?
@@terrymcnavage5104 I shoot Nikon and Canon. I like the Sigma Art glass and the Nikon DC lenses. I have some vintage lenses in those focal lengths too. I've no idea which Sony lens is best.
Love the Sony 135 GM
Zeiss Batis 85 so worth it
LOL 😂
35 1.4 , 85 1.4 , 70-200 f2.8 .. these are three lenses i will prefer if I have the money to buy 😂
I wish we could get a newer (and compact) 105mm!!
The exciting rumor is the upcoming Sigma art f/1.2 lenses!
I am still torn between 50mm and 85mm.. I do have many reason why but I think the 50mm is more like the middle ground when it comes to walking in close and stepping back a little bit. I think if I do portrait shots using 85mm on a small space then there would be no head room unlike the 50mm there still a little bit of it.
What about nothing 2a as it uses Google's algorithm ultra hdr to process photos has same sensor size as pixel 8 pro with more stable tsmc chip plz make a comparison video of it ❤
Those are really, really nice. 😜😜
both cool...85 classic but 50 1.2
I would rather have a 35 and 85 combo. 35 can be useful indoor also :)
Thank you 🫶
Off topic but your Rosewood presets are so FIRE! About the purchase them NOW! They add dream to the 85's creamy
I thought I'd like the 50mm better clicking this videos but damn the 85mm outright DESTROYS the 50mm. I have a lot to think about
Yeah so basically get a 50mm if you can afford 1 lens otherwise get the 35 and the 85.
I thought:
1 lens = 50mm
2 lenses = 24mm + 85mm
3 lenses = 14mm, 35mm + 85mm
4+ lenses = Stop recording and just enjoy life, you’ve completed it!
Hmm, I'd say:
1 the 50mm
2 the 50mm and 35mm
3 the 35mm , 50mm and the 85mm
@@jdiuurdfsds would you not prefer 14mm over 50mm and use the 35mm and crop to achieve something similar to the 50mm?
@@PremiumProductionsHQ the compression of the 50mm is (slightly) different. I love both, the 35 and 50.
@@PremiumProductionsHQthe wider you go the more distortion you experience with human faces look up a comparison
I prefer 24mm focal length do portrait!!!
Pls video on HELIOS 42 LENS especially about bokey effect,thank u❤
She already did the video on Helios 44
Ok,thanks
50mm forever.
50 is a great all around focal length but it will only shine if it has an aperture of f/1.4 or faster otherwise you rather want to go for 85mm f/1.8 as it gives more pleasing background compression even at f/2.8. Anything wider than 50mm is not a portrait lens imo.
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I prefer the standard 35 & 85 look after using the 50 the past year. 50 is meh, IMO. I do think its a great video lens though...
My preference:
Environmental portrait: 24, 28 or 35mm
Half body: 50mm
Full body: 85mm
Face only: 200mm
More light on the 50
In 50mm, the model’s face looked longer when closed up.
So 85 can still get the 50 look. So 85 it is 😋
Sony really needs to give us 85mm 1.2 (or sigma, how ever i like sony gm bokeh more)
Agreed, I am waiting!
Shooting while looking at the LCD? Jared Polin would punish that in a second.
i like somewhere in between, like 58mm
50mm is best
Looks like we are getting a Sony 85mm 1.4 GM II but sadly no 1.2.....
Give me a 50mm over an 85mm everyday. I hate my subjects looking they've been copied and pasted in a photo.
I just do not know why anyone will use a 50mm Lens on a full frame Camera for portraits !!! The 85mm are the "perfect" Lens on full frame Camera for portraits. But maybe it could be because the first digttal DSLR cameras was APSC size sensor, at that time the 50mm Lens got popular. I have never liked the 50mm focal length for a full frame Camera in my more than 4 decades of photographer !
I love her smile...... Fucking hate this kind of "look like a depressed zombie"-kind of photography.
I think we can all agree, this model should smile. I always tell sad looking girls to smile. They really appreciate it.
50mm lenses are more expensive, but looks more realistic, and editorial. 85mm is way cheaper and people look bigger, and fatter.
My 851.2 is more expensive than any 50mm lol.
85mm produce more bokeh effect
50 mm gives distortion for head and shoulder shots , 50mm doesnt look natural close up
Meanwhile me watching this with my a6000 :’)
I'd like to have a Sigma f/1.4 for my Canon for many uses but for portraits... 85mm forever. It's the focal length that more resembles the way I see with my eyes.
By the way I'd really love taking some portraits to your beautiful cute face
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Juliet oh Juliet !!!
❤❤🩹❤❤🩹❤
The night was magic when we first met
Juliet, oh Juliet
You know you taught me to fly
You take me clear to the sky
And all the people around the world can stand aside
For me and my baby, Juliet
💋💋💋
Hey Julia! Just wanted to ask how you recorded the lcd screen, I don't see any external connections. Thanks!