Awesome comparison video! Ive had a slightly older C6 Hansa for 7 years and I thrash it. so easy to unblock, stores easily, you can remove the blades without any dissasembly. when I kill it- Ill just rebuild it and carry on - so easy to service- Im in NZ by the way
Such a great demo. i have just cut about 6 years yew growth from an unruly hedge and have it all to dispose of. Since I use a lot of bark chipping in my garden I wondered if it was more cost effective to get a chipper than take it to the green waste and buy chipping in. The one that keeps stalling would drive me mad so this was a fab test. Thanks.
Great to see proper testing of these type of machines. I only have an electrical domestic shredder, but it takes care of my hedge trimmings, which i put back under the hedges the cuttings came from to long term release and feed. Full circle, no recycling of garden rubbish into trash bin here. It all goes into the shredder then under the hedge or into the compost bin.
@@barbaradownes3925 It very much depends on the machine & where you live. Here in the UK, I bought a Bosch AXT Rapid 2200, which currently sells for £220 at B&Q. Has a 3 year warranty. It's a great machine & I've abused mine for three years, including feeding enough privet (up to 3cm thick) to fill five builder's dumpy bags! It's a bit fiddly feeding twiggy stuff that have branches sticking out but handles straighter stuff & leylandii & other coniferous material easily. Blades can be sharpened by anyone who does lawnmower blades (or in my case, I have a bench grinder).
I bought a Eliet Minor on the back of this review. I’d hired chippers and shredders and after a lot of research and using I went for a shredder. I’ve been using it for a year in my small business and struggle to fault it. Anything over 2 inches gets cut, seasoned then burnt in woodburner, everything else goes through the shredder. The only time it jams is when it’s about to run out of fuel and I find the tyres are too big for the wheels causing it to sway like a car ferry in a storm when moving. Other than that it’s been a massive asset, keep up the entertaining reviews 👍
I've got the Eliet, positives are like you said it's great for compost and will handle green wet material so good for gardeners, negatives are it's very top heavy and can be difficult to get on a trailer or van, it can't really handle old hard wood and you still need to push feed the load in, sharpening the 20 blades is a big pain.
The model tested is the Eliet Major, touted as their smallest machine for professional use. It was too large for my van, so i went for its smaller brother, the Minor, aimed at domestic gardens. It has lasted just over 6 years with new blades after 3 years. The handle was recently welded to repair a break but so many things are now going wrong, it's time to replace it. It works best on fresh material but can get blocked by hard knots, most often found in hedges where they are being reduced in height with thickened nodes resulting from previous cuts. Old, dry wood was guaranteed to block it. I used a Dremel to sharpen the blades but never could reach one set. The chute often blocked with twiggy material but there is a slot in the chute that a knife can fit in to help move the block up and out. I got lots of lovely compost from it plus shredded winter branches to put on paths. As the blades dull, the shred gets bigger. Hope that's helpful
I own a Hansa C3E, and with some care and control feeding I've managed to feed whole palm trees with up to 100mm trunks through it. Even on this tiny electric entry model chipper that I've subjected to torture testing levels of abuse, it still chips like the day I bought it. This demo and my own experience lets me know upgrading to another Hansa is the right move.
Hi. How does your chipper go with fibrous stuff like Palm logs and fronds or Yakka stems and branches? Got quite a few of those around my block which need continuous cleaning up and most chippers don't do well with the fibrous stuff.
@@peterr7530 In all honesty I don't think any chipper does very well with the fibrous, stringy stuff. Having said that though, I primarily mince palm logs and fronds, and I find a helpful technique prevents the blade seizing most of the time. The trick is to mince only green palm logs, but I find dry and green palm fronds aren't any trouble. I crush down the palm frond ends with my feet so they will fit into the narrowest part of the chute near the blade and I always push them down with the part that contacts the tree first, as this is the toughest part and allows a back and forth motion to allow you to not overload the blade and prevent stringing. With green palm logs I feed it with the fronds still attached, this is important for me to be able to mince the stringy log fully with something to hold onto. I feed the base closest to the ground in and I gently tough the blade with a bouncing and rapid, but not too forceful in and out motion to slowly chip at the palm log. After a couple of seconds you will inevitably develop a sloping diagonal cut on the base of the palm log, you then rotate the whole palm tree 90 - 180 degrees and repeat, with your goal to chip the log down slowly, only letting the small electric engine bite as much as it can handle, while keeping the area being cut as small as possible which is achieved by the rotation of the log. Stringy branches are only a problem if the string is long enough to wrapped around the spindle the blade spins on, if you had a piece of string and cut it into 1/4 inch pieces, it would never bind the spindle and it's what you are trying to emulate here as you feed and rotate the palm logs. The machine is only rated to 40mm green branches, but with care and admittedly some physical strength, you can gently feed a 100mm palm log through. Almost 100% of my jams occur when I attempt to feed the dried, left over bases of the fruiting portions of the palms. I saw the flowers off when they start to appear to prevent bats from feeding on my palms, I simply don't like creatures that carry lyssavirus and hendra virus to want be above the living space of where we sit at night during gatherings, which leads to a dried arm length portion of the fruiting body to fall off the palm tree. With these I simply do the dangerous thing and feed it by hand, pushing it as far in as I safety can using the same in and out chipping motion to prevent stringing and I cut my losses and turf the piece left of that I am still holding onto. Sometimes I lose my grip when I get greedy and hold it by my finger tips to reach as far in the machine as I can to chip it as much as possible, dropping it into the machine and this is where it can shred to rope and wrap around the spindle, where you will need to take two bolts off to remove the chute to access the blade and unwind the rope in the opposite direction and using a pair of pliers to tear it out. I am unfamiliar with yucca and if it's leaves behave like the stalks of palms you might be in trouble. I would say trying to feed it in like you would a palm tree, base of the plan first so the most tender part is at the top might allow you to get away with it, but as I said the plant is not native or common in my part of the world, so I have no experience with it. Besides this, I rarely have any problems and for what the product is it has ground me piles of compost from an annoying waste product it's not designed for, well beyond it's specifications and price range. You have to be happy for getting more than what you paid for with any product. Don't leave it in the rain though, my father is a small engines mechanic and he is baffled how many people leave these things outside to rust in the rain and wonder why they don't work after a year of buying one. Give it the basic respectful treatment, feed dry palm fronds in last to dry it out before putting away, give it a hit with inox mx3 around the business parts and it's almost unbreakable. Haven't had to repair mine yet. I hope this helps mate. 👍
I've got the hansa C13 chipper, and it's a beast for around the property, the trade off is it's 185kg/400lb. I have only stalled it once on a hard 80mm/3 1/4" diameter tree that was 4.0m/13' long, the Hansa self feeds very well, but with very long, thick trees it takes the momentum out of the flywheel, best practice is to cut thick branches to about 1500mm/5ft long.
I have a Jansen make of chipper virtually identical to the GTM and absolutely fantastic machine .You have to remember to feed long lengths in bit by bit .Can be a struggle on your own if loading up ramps and would be nice if they could power the wheels somehow .As with any machine like these you need to be clinical going through everything that you put down the chute .Get a lazy labourer not keeping his eyes raking up stones with branches and you will be forever having chipping problems with dull blades .
The hansa really impressed me actually, I like the traditional fly wheel on it. The gtm looks more capable, but I’m not a big fan of ‘roller’ chippers.
I love that aspen fuel. So clean burning, the smoke doesn't even smell like ICE engine exhaust. Never going back to pump gas for handheld tools, worth every extra penny.
I've used the GTM in the past. I bungeed a piece of tarpaulin round the top of the chute & with a little adjustment, had it throwing the chips straight down into dumpty bags - would've worked with a wheelbarrow too.
Good comparison if only to show me how different chippers handle different woods. Well I guess that was the brief but what I mean is the Hansa is a grabber but too long branches will slow down the flywheel and it loses power/stalls. Two of the others reduce chance of stalling by not being so greedy but then you have to force feed them a bit more. I thought the Chinese cheapy held its ground but I like the Hansa as it seemed the most trouble-free throughout the demonstration. That's a happy coincidence as I bought a Hansa C7 today on impulse. It weighs in at 93Kg and was a struggle for my son and I to lift out of the vehicle. Haven't tried it yet as was too late but by watching your video (and others) I now know to feed shorter pieces into it to help keep the flywheel revs and less stress all round. Bogging down any motor as a regular occurrence is not wise so thank you for showing me what NOT to do 🙂
Yeah one thing that wasn't really paid too much explicit attention to is the self feed. To my mind the Hansa has the best self feed by a fair amount, at the risk of, as you say, being greedy. The chinese unit has poor self feed, the drum unit so-so. If you are feeding appropriately sized loads in, a good self feed makes bigger jobs a lot less painful. I find it pretty tiring having to stuff the load into the chute into a chipper that tends to bounce the material back at you.
Good review of that level of machine, I have an older Eliet without the fan which works well with different material but is not a chipper but does stuff chippers can't do. not used the other machine but the GTM seemed to perform better but is bigger. Engine make and HP does make a difference. I have a Welder, Generator, Rotavator, Chipper and Shredder, all Hondas and have no complaints. Cheers
It's a good review of All these machines which are badged Chinese chippers and come under lots of different names , and can be purchased direct from China at less half the price, even with shipping and duty/VAT
That is the first really useful road test of these types of machines I have come across. I am in the process of deciding which machine and what type I need. Naturally I have looked at the least expensive first, but my main worry is the cheap ones all seem to be made in China, and I do worry about spares. For our other garden machinery I prefer to go for Briggs and Stratton powered kit. You know where you stand and parts are available without drama. Any thoughts on Chinese parts anyone?
i work w/ the Viking chipper & shredder both in 1 gasoline powered model. just its transmition belt sometimes breaks due to branches rests blocking its knives disc if i'm not able to stop the engine inmediately. better introducing branches just 1 by 1 although its manual suggests it would be possible w/ various at 1 time.
Been waiting for this video 😀 I'm definitely leaning towards the eliet for the shredding & composting purposes, anything too thick I'd just log up anyway
Great video. Thanks for the content. Entertaining presentation too. After watching this and seeing the Eliet in action in person at another farm, I bought a Forest Master FM14DD. I reckon that the higher engine speed of the Forest Master and how you can angle the hopper is a bonus, Might be worth a look - when you next do a chipper review... I'm sure @ForestMaster would be interested...
I have the exact same model of elite and after 2 seasons of solid use the blades still don’t need sharpened and it makes great compost as mentioned so that would be my choice out of all of them.
@@MachineryNation never had a blockage in the shoot, sometimes a piece is left in hopper and on restart it'll block the drum from turning but you lay it back and give it a shake and off it goes. It's not a 5 min job to take apart tho if ever needed👍
The eliet prof 4 is a chipper/shredder can cope with more leafy material. The other three are drum chippers more suitable for thicker branches will clog up with too much green material.
I own a Hansa c7 brilliant machine ,the feed hole is small so I have to push material down with 2x4 timber if your putting a lot of product through it, solid bit of kit, will last a lifetime, highly recommend Hansa products. I have used a Eliet on a conifer tree and you have to go very slow feeding it or it will stall, and if you feed a big branch through it it will get pulled in and stall so you have to hold the branch to slowly feed it which vibrates your hands badly, the bigger Eliet machines are probably better.
Thank you so much. Im in New Zealand and a lot of brands are unavailable here. So many well reviewed chippers are out of reach. I was wondering how the Hansa would perform since thats NZ made. Nice to see it does well. Now to choose a model for size. May get a shredder too. Great video.
I have a Hansa C13. I noticed you blocked the unit the same way I did when I first used mine. The unit can’t expel material fast enough when you point the chute nozzle downwards, as it occludes the path too much. Once opened up it never blocks. I’m in Australia and mine processed hard eucalyptus Timbers. Hasn’t skipped a beat.
Hi. How does your chipper go with fibrous stuff like Palm logs and fronds or Yakka stems and branches? Got quite a few of those around my block which need continuous cleaning up and most chippers don't do well with the fibrous stuff.
@@peterr7530Hey Peter. The Hansa chippers are designed to handle fibrous material like Yakkas, Cabbage Tree, Palm, Flax etc, and typically have no problem with it. It would've been interesting to see how each of these chippers handled fibrous material, as many chippers get bogged down with it.
I have the eliet for green stuff. Nice wide shute so easy to feed. And i have the cobra for thick wood. Great machine….just need to learn how to use it. When you do, you dont knock the safety bar anywhere near as much. These 2 machines are the perfect combination for me. Good video
We got a Jansen GTS-1500E and it really benefits from the large mouth it has. eats trough 3m long, 10cm thick sticks like it's nothing. Only downside is when your trying to chip green stuf, then it will get block up in the exit but you have an easy acces to open it up again.
I run a elite shredder the pro ideal for small branches and hedge cuttings of any kind and other garden cutting and seems to work better when blades are dull
Love your video!👍👍 You forgot to mention that every GTM chipper comes with rotor deblocking tool 😀! That way there's no need to get the input or output off, you can use the deblocking tool!
@@johnnieS-sh6mv The GTS600 indeed doesn't come with a deblocking tool! The deblocking tool is only standard with our GTS900, GTS1300 and GTS1800 models. But we're very glad to hear you never really needed one!
What type of machine would you recommend to use to transform into compostable material a huge pile of raspberry canes & branches (green or dry) ? Cheers
That lumag is shocking with that safety bar jeez. I’ve hired the Eliet a couple times, works great for Laurel, or small leylandii. But it’s only 55mm which isn’t much. Would be interesting to see the next class of chippers.. the next size up Hanza c13, the haecksler or however you spell it, maybe next size up Eliet?
Yeah it was frustrating, but can easily be modified. Hope fully the manufacturer will change this after seeing the video 👍🏼 love that idea, stay tuned! 🤩
I've got the Hyundai hych1500e2. Most impressive chipper on Leylandi I've seen in it's size. Like the Lumag you have to disconnect the safety button, it's just too sensitive. Try them against the Camon and they are a big improvement.
Thank you for the brilliant comparrison! I would love to hear your oppinion on the ceccato tritone one, especially the 400V version, any chance you take a look at it?
Really? Thanks mate.. I swear it’s easier to be positive, but for some reason people choose the negative life. I could pick you up on your spelling, but…. 😉
Gravity fed drum chippers don't deal with dead branches very well. If you drop in some fresh branching after they'll help keep the dead ones against the drum so they won't bounce around in the chute all day. Same is true for 'sticks' ie. stuff with no bounciness to them.
Hi James Nice One all look good machines Think I've said before used to use a elite major at work that did not have the spout just dropped on the ground worst thing was filling with petrol tank not in the best position Thanks again
Thanks Darran, yes they still make that machine but not so common now, I completely agree, it is awkward. Luckily they also make one with the tank on top now.
I own another clone of the China made one, it is really easy to rewire them to ignore that safety bar, understand that basically the switch earths out the ignition and you can figure the rest out. There are even very handy automotive plugs used in the wiring to aid in this process. Mine runs like a dream, don't overfeed it and don't try to chop touch dry wood, it'll block on that, but you can easily fold open the feed shoot, and underneath move a massive section of steel blade to unclog the drum, no need to actually take anything apart, the outfeed is more of a pain, especially if you have some muscles in your forearm, its 4 bolts and you gotta lift the whole thing off, tbh that is my only complaint of this model, otherwise i think it outperforms pretty much all of the competition. Owh and to deal with the kicking heavy branches up and down, just follow a piece like that with a branch with decent amount of foliage and feed that foliage one in reverse, leaves first, it'll hold down the piece that wants to go flying and the chipper will just eat both of them.
i have the Victory tractor one, similar to the GTM but a bit bigger and it loves thicker wood (up to 15cm if you feed slowly), not so good for tiny little twig branches (the go through in longer pieces if you don't feed something thicker with them at the same time), and it handles conifers better then these did, great little machine ! From China too probably , bought through Germany directly from the "manufacturer" :D It has the emergency stop metal bar around the infeed chute like the Lumag, I never mounted it to prevent it from shutting off with every big branch :D
@@MachineryNation yeah, but it has a emergency off button at the base you can shut off with your foot quickly so at least something... And I plan to add another button to the switch that was activated by the bar
By adjustment of the red bar stop device, do you mean take it off. LOL. My shredder (earthquake?) has been adjusted like that. Yes I can't sell it because it'll take the hand off a less competent person but I know what it'll shred and what it'll chip. Had it for 20yrs and apart a bit of welding it's great at what it does. I do look at new shredders and think, mmmmm. Great vid of different machines and their capabilities.
hansa is impressive for such a Small engine the flywheel seems faster and easier to unblock the other one the safety rail can be removed and still have the bar on the bottom, the drums like that are a huge pain to unblock they can seize up real good
Unless you have very long arms , the Hansa blades can't be reached from the normal standing position. I don't know about the other machines on test, but I wouldn't buy one that allowed my hand anywhere near the blades when feeding the branches. I've had an early model C7 for over 10 years and only had a few minor issues with it. Best to cut the long stuff over 35-40mm into shorter pieces as it tends to bog down when the edge goes off the blades. Overall a sturdy robust machine. Replacement blades in Australia are $160 and you can usually get about 3 sharpens out of them if there not too knocked around.
I would put my old mtd 475 7.5hp up against any of them 3 happily..this review tells me everything I need to know .. stick with the chipper /shredder double chute deals privit ..one thing I never seen any of them tackle..
The GTM is not from the Netherlands, it's a China made machine branded in tens if not hundreds of different names. The hopper and chute might differ slightly as we as the color of course. I have a 15HP version, and it's actually very good. It sat for 2 years at my summerhouse and started on the second pull. Remember to shut the fuel valve and run the carburetor trough before storing and it's reliable.
Do you know if there is such a thing as a three phase electric shredder on the market ? Thank you for explaining the difference between chippers and Shredders.
Eliet do their shredder with an electric motor rather than petrol motor option. (Might only be the minor 4S and not the Major 4S that has the electric option, but think they may offer both)
Very good comparison there 👍 I looked for comparison videos last year as needed a chipper, this would've been the perfect video! I ended up getting a Chinese machine similar to the GTM but scaled down abit, only bought for 1 job with poor access and it paid for itself on that job really. Might give it a bigger engine soon as think it will improve it further and comes in really handy.
Very good video but you forgot to do something putting a mannequin in them and to see if they will be shredded or different objects you can put in there that will be a great video
Awesome comparison video! Ive had a slightly older C6 Hansa for 7 years and I thrash it. so easy to unblock, stores easily, you can remove the blades without any dissasembly. when I kill it- Ill just rebuild it and carry on - so easy to service- Im in NZ by the way
Such a great demo. i have just cut about 6 years yew growth from an unruly hedge and have it all to dispose of. Since I use a lot of bark chipping in my garden I wondered if it was more cost effective to get a chipper than take it to the green waste and buy chipping in. The one that keeps stalling would drive me mad so this was a fab test. Thanks.
Great to see proper testing of these type of machines. I only have an electrical domestic shredder, but it takes care of my hedge trimmings, which i put back under the hedges the cuttings came from to long term release and feed. Full circle, no recycling of garden rubbish into trash bin here. It all goes into the shredder then under the hedge or into the compost bin.
What is the cost of a shredder
@@barbaradownes3925 It very much depends on the machine & where you live.
Here in the UK, I bought a Bosch AXT Rapid 2200, which currently sells for £220 at B&Q.
Has a 3 year warranty.
It's a great machine & I've abused mine for three years, including feeding enough privet (up to 3cm thick) to fill five builder's dumpy bags!
It's a bit fiddly feeding twiggy stuff that have branches sticking out but handles straighter stuff & leylandii & other coniferous material easily.
Blades can be sharpened by anyone who does lawnmower blades (or in my case, I have a bench grinder).
I bought a Eliet Minor on the back of this review. I’d hired chippers and shredders and after a lot of research and using I went for a shredder. I’ve been using it for a year in my small business and struggle to fault it. Anything over 2 inches gets cut, seasoned then burnt in woodburner, everything else goes through the shredder. The only time it jams is when it’s about to run out of fuel and I find the tyres are too big for the wheels causing it to sway like a car ferry in a storm when moving. Other than that it’s been a massive asset, keep up the entertaining reviews 👍
Thank you mate, really great to hear back after people purchase equipment after watching our videos 👍🏼
I've got the Eliet, positives are like you said it's great for compost and will handle green wet material so good for gardeners, negatives are it's very top heavy and can be difficult to get on a trailer or van, it can't really handle old hard wood and you still need to push feed the load in, sharpening the 20 blades is a big pain.
Thanks for the feedback Al. Really appreciate it 👍🏼
The model tested is the Eliet Major, touted as their smallest machine for professional use. It was too large for my van, so i went for its smaller brother, the Minor, aimed at domestic gardens. It has lasted just over 6 years with new blades after 3 years. The handle was recently welded to repair a break but so many things are now going wrong, it's time to replace it. It works best on fresh material but can get blocked by hard knots, most often found in hedges where they are being reduced in height with thickened nodes resulting from previous cuts. Old, dry wood was guaranteed to block it. I used a Dremel to sharpen the blades but never could reach one set. The chute often blocked with twiggy material but there is a slot in the chute that a knife can fit in to help move the block up and out. I got lots of lovely compost from it plus shredded winter branches to put on paths. As the blades dull, the shred gets bigger.
Hope that's helpful
I own a Hansa C3E, and with some care and control feeding I've managed to feed whole palm trees with up to 100mm trunks through it. Even on this tiny electric entry model chipper that I've subjected to torture testing levels of abuse, it still chips like the day I bought it. This demo and my own experience lets me know upgrading to another Hansa is the right move.
Hi. How does your chipper go with fibrous stuff like Palm logs and fronds or Yakka stems and branches? Got quite a few of those around my block which need continuous cleaning up and most chippers don't do well with the fibrous stuff.
@@peterr7530 In all honesty I don't think any chipper does very well with the fibrous, stringy stuff. Having said that though, I primarily mince palm logs and fronds, and I find a helpful technique prevents the blade seizing most of the time. The trick is to mince only green palm logs, but I find dry and green palm fronds aren't any trouble. I crush down the palm frond ends with my feet so they will fit into the narrowest part of the chute near the blade and I always push them down with the part that contacts the tree first, as this is the toughest part and allows a back and forth motion to allow you to not overload the blade and prevent stringing. With green palm logs I feed it with the fronds still attached, this is important for me to be able to mince the stringy log fully with something to hold onto. I feed the base closest to the ground in and I gently tough the blade with a bouncing and rapid, but not too forceful in and out motion to slowly chip at the palm log. After a couple of seconds you will inevitably develop a sloping diagonal cut on the base of the palm log, you then rotate the whole palm tree 90 - 180 degrees and repeat, with your goal to chip the log down slowly, only letting the small electric engine bite as much as it can handle, while keeping the area being cut as small as possible which is achieved by the rotation of the log. Stringy branches are only a problem if the string is long enough to wrapped around the spindle the blade spins on, if you had a piece of string and cut it into 1/4 inch pieces, it would never bind the spindle and it's what you are trying to emulate here as you feed and rotate the palm logs. The machine is only rated to 40mm green branches, but with care and admittedly some physical strength, you can gently feed a 100mm palm log through. Almost 100% of my jams occur when I attempt to feed the dried, left over bases of the fruiting portions of the palms. I saw the flowers off when they start to appear to prevent bats from feeding on my palms, I simply don't like creatures that carry lyssavirus and hendra virus to want be above the living space of where we sit at night during gatherings, which leads to a dried arm length portion of the fruiting body to fall off the palm tree. With these I simply do the dangerous thing and feed it by hand, pushing it as far in as I safety can using the same in and out chipping motion to prevent stringing and I cut my losses and turf the piece left of that I am still holding onto. Sometimes I lose my grip when I get greedy and hold it by my finger tips to reach as far in the machine as I can to chip it as much as possible, dropping it into the machine and this is where it can shred to rope and wrap around the spindle, where you will need to take two bolts off to remove the chute to access the blade and unwind the rope in the opposite direction and using a pair of pliers to tear it out. I am unfamiliar with yucca and if it's leaves behave like the stalks of palms you might be in trouble. I would say trying to feed it in like you would a palm tree, base of the plan first so the most tender part is at the top might allow you to get away with it, but as I said the plant is not native or common in my part of the world, so I have no experience with it. Besides this, I rarely have any problems and for what the product is it has ground me piles of compost from an annoying waste product it's not designed for, well beyond it's specifications and price range. You have to be happy for getting more than what you paid for with any product. Don't leave it in the rain though, my father is a small engines mechanic and he is baffled how many people leave these things outside to rust in the rain and wonder why they don't work after a year of buying one. Give it the basic respectful treatment, feed dry palm fronds in last to dry it out before putting away, give it a hit with inox mx3 around the business parts and it's almost unbreakable. Haven't had to repair mine yet. I hope this helps mate. 👍
I've got the hansa C13 chipper, and it's a beast for around the property, the trade off is it's 185kg/400lb. I have only stalled it once on a hard 80mm/3 1/4" diameter tree that was 4.0m/13' long, the Hansa self feeds very well, but with very long, thick trees it takes the momentum out of the flywheel, best practice is to cut thick branches to about 1500mm/5ft long.
DR Chipper gives you a shredder plus a chipper in one unit. Best of both worlds.
Something very therapeutic about chipping! Looks like you had fun! 😀 Didn’t try shoving any people through this time 🤣
I have a Jansen make of chipper virtually identical to the GTM and absolutely fantastic machine .You have to remember to feed long lengths in bit by bit .Can be a struggle on your own if loading up ramps and would be nice if they could power the wheels somehow .As with any machine like these you need to be clinical going through everything that you put down the chute .Get a lazy labourer not keeping his eyes raking up stones with branches and you will be forever having chipping problems with dull blades .
It's not exactly ASMR but there is something deeply satisfying watching a wood chipper do it's thing!
Thank you. I shall watch again before making a purchase. Will let you know the outcome.
The hansa really impressed me actually, I like the traditional fly wheel on it.
The gtm looks more capable, but I’m not a big fan of ‘roller’ chippers.
Thank you for your feedback 👍🏼
Why not dislike the reller chipper? Thanks for your sharing opinions.
Good video. I've used a smaller Eliot domestic shredder and it wasn't bad.
You get what you pay for. 4/5k is a lot for my small business
I love that aspen fuel. So clean burning, the smoke doesn't even smell like ICE engine exhaust. Never going back to pump gas for handheld tools, worth every extra penny.
I've used the GTM in the past.
I bungeed a piece of tarpaulin round the top of the chute & with a little adjustment, had it throwing the chips straight down into dumpty bags - would've worked with a wheelbarrow too.
Good idea 👍🏼
Good comparison if only to show me how different chippers handle different woods. Well I guess that was the brief but what I mean is the Hansa is a grabber but too long branches will slow down the flywheel and it loses power/stalls. Two of the others reduce chance of stalling by not being so greedy but then you have to force feed them a bit more. I thought the Chinese cheapy held its ground but I like the Hansa as it seemed the most trouble-free throughout the demonstration. That's a happy coincidence as I bought a Hansa C7 today on impulse. It weighs in at 93Kg and was a struggle for my son and I to lift out of the vehicle. Haven't tried it yet as was too late but by watching your video (and others) I now know to feed shorter pieces into it to help keep the flywheel revs and less stress all round. Bogging down any motor as a regular occurrence is not wise so thank you for showing me what NOT to do 🙂
Yeah one thing that wasn't really paid too much explicit attention to is the self feed. To my mind the Hansa has the best self feed by a fair amount, at the risk of, as you say, being greedy. The chinese unit has poor self feed, the drum unit so-so. If you are feeding appropriately sized loads in, a good self feed makes bigger jobs a lot less painful. I find it pretty tiring having to stuff the load into the chute into a chipper that tends to bounce the material back at you.
Good review of that level of machine, I have an older Eliet without the fan which works well with different material but is not a chipper but does stuff chippers can't do.
not used the other machine but the GTM seemed to perform better but is bigger.
Engine make and HP does make a difference.
I have a Welder, Generator, Rotavator, Chipper and Shredder, all Hondas and have no complaints.
Cheers
It's a good review of All these machines which are badged Chinese chippers and come under lots of different names , and can be purchased direct from China at less half the price, even with shipping and duty/VAT
They are not all Chinese machines.
That is the first really useful road test of these types of machines I have come across. I am in the process of deciding which machine and what type I need. Naturally I have looked at the least expensive first, but my main worry is the cheap ones all seem to be made in China, and I do worry about spares. For our other garden machinery I prefer to go for Briggs and Stratton powered kit. You know where you stand and parts are available without drama. Any thoughts on Chinese parts anyone?
i work w/ the Viking chipper & shredder both in 1 gasoline powered model. just its transmition belt sometimes breaks due to branches rests blocking its knives disc if i'm not able to stop the engine inmediately. better introducing branches just 1 by 1 although its manual suggests it would be possible w/ various at 1 time.
With all the bush around here i can use one. A chipper i think. Cheers bud as always stay safe.
Been waiting for this video 😀
I'm definitely leaning towards the eliet for the shredding & composting purposes, anything too thick I'd just log up anyway
Awesome Thanks Jordan. I had been waiting for it for ages too! Haha.
Great video. Thanks for the content. Entertaining presentation too.
After watching this and seeing the Eliet in action in person at another farm, I bought a Forest Master FM14DD.
I reckon that the higher engine speed of the Forest Master and how you can angle the hopper is a bonus,
Might be worth a look - when you next do a chipper review...
I'm sure @ForestMaster would be interested...
are you from Forest Master by any chance David? 😉 I’m joking, that’s great to hear and thank you for the tip 👍🏼
I have the exact same model of elite and after 2 seasons of solid use the blades still don’t need sharpened and it makes great compost as mentioned so that would be my choice out of all of them.
Thank you for the feedback Scott 👍🏼
Great job 👍 👍 👍
Thank you Emi, I hope your channel is doing well 👍🏼
I’ve got a couple of Skarpers which I love! Used to have a Eliet which was ok while blades was bang sharp but not a patch on a chipper!
I'm really pleased with my greenmech cs100 especially after seeing how these ones coped with the conifer. Nice review 👍 and good job on the stalls😅
Thanks Nathan. How is the GreenMech for accessing a blockage?
Yes the greenmech will knock spots off all of those machines, but changing the blades is an absolute ball-ache
@@MachineryNation never had a blockage in the shoot, sometimes a piece is left in hopper and on restart it'll block the drum from turning but you lay it back and give it a shake and off it goes. It's not a 5 min job to take apart tho if ever needed👍
@@Spurace I usually take mine to the shop for blades change as have heard the same thing, cheers mate👍
The eliet prof 4 is a chipper/shredder can cope with more leafy material. The other three are drum chippers more suitable for thicker branches will clog up with too much green material.
I own a Hansa c7 brilliant machine ,the feed hole is small so I have to push material down with 2x4 timber if your putting a lot of product through it, solid bit of kit, will last a lifetime, highly recommend Hansa products.
I have used a Eliet on a conifer tree and you have to go very slow feeding it or it will stall, and if you feed a big branch through it it will get pulled in and stall so you have to hold the branch to slowly feed it which vibrates your hands badly, the bigger Eliet machines are probably better.
Thanks God we have our own eyes and ears to judge Lumag ))
For sure!
Thank you so much. Im in New Zealand and a lot of brands are unavailable here. So many well reviewed chippers are out of reach. I was wondering how the Hansa would perform since thats NZ made. Nice to see it does well. Now to choose a model for size. May get a shredder too. Great video.
Thank you 👍🏼
I have a Hansa C13. I noticed you blocked the unit the same way I did when I first used mine. The unit can’t expel material fast enough when you point the chute nozzle downwards, as it occludes the path too much. Once opened up it never blocks.
I’m in Australia and mine processed hard eucalyptus Timbers. Hasn’t skipped a beat.
That’s for the tip Leon. It is a shame it does that as not great when wanting to chip into a wheel barrow.
Hi. How does your chipper go with fibrous stuff like Palm logs and fronds or Yakka stems and branches? Got quite a few of those around my block which need continuous cleaning up and most chippers don't do well with the fibrous stuff.
@@peterr7530Hey Peter. The Hansa chippers are designed to handle fibrous material like Yakkas, Cabbage Tree, Palm, Flax etc, and typically have no problem with it.
It would've been interesting to see how each of these chippers handled fibrous material, as many chippers get bogged down with it.
I have the eliet for green stuff. Nice wide shute so easy to feed. And i have the cobra for thick wood. Great machine….just need to learn how to use it. When you do, you dont knock the safety bar anywhere near as much. These 2 machines are the perfect combination for me. Good video
Nice machines James and a great review on the 4 machines, i have a Crytec and am really pleased with it 👍
Nice Nev! Is it similar to the Lumag?
@@MachineryNation its more like the Hansa but i tow it around the garden on the garden tractor and also the car if i get work for it
Great. If you can introduce how many HP are the four chipper machines, the video will be much better.
We got a Jansen GTS-1500E and it really benefits from the large mouth it has. eats trough 3m long, 10cm thick sticks like it's nothing.
Only downside is when your trying to chip green stuf, then it will get block up in the exit but you have an easy acces to open it up again.
Great video , but which is better for small diameter bamboo , a chipper or a shredder
great presentation
Thank you 🤩
At last a comparison vid! Nice one 👍🏻
The gtm and hansa, would definitely be my choice, but different people have different needs.
Interesting line up and video,👍
Thanks Jason. Yeah it was a good mixture of different style and size machines. I think the moral of the story is buy the biggest one you can afford 👍🏼
What is the model of the eliet
I run a elite shredder the pro ideal for small branches and hedge cuttings of any kind and other garden cutting and seems to work better when blades are dull
Great videos. Could you do a comparison on flywheel vs drum. Pros and cons
I like the orange GTM ❤
What type of shredder/chipper is best for hardwood (manzanita)?
eliet all the way. not be able to shred bigger branches is reasonable, and the output and performance is excellent.
Love your video!👍👍
You forgot to mention that every GTM chipper comes with rotor deblocking tool 😀! That way there's no need to get the input or output off, you can use the deblocking tool!
Nice! We did not know this. At least we didn’t need it haha! 😂
@@MachineryNation 😂😂
@GTMprofessional I have a GTS 600 and I never received an unblocking tool but to be honest the machine is great and I've never really needed one :)
@@johnnieS-sh6mv The GTS600 indeed doesn't come with a deblocking tool! The deblocking tool is only standard with our GTS900, GTS1300 and GTS1800 models. But we're very glad to hear you never really needed one!
I forgott! The video was great.
The R-GO 18 woodchipper out performs all of the woodchippers in this video. !!
thanks for the demo
Thank you Russell 🤩
What type of machine would you recommend to use to transform into compostable material a huge pile of raspberry canes & branches (green or dry) ? Cheers
On your chippers since you got one from New Zealand, I suggest to give ChipStar 100 from Australia
great video James, but you you didn't say how much each machine cost
That lumag is shocking with that safety bar jeez.
I’ve hired the Eliet a couple times, works great for Laurel, or small leylandii. But it’s only 55mm which isn’t much.
Would be interesting to see the next class of chippers.. the next size up Hanza c13, the haecksler or however you spell it, maybe next size up Eliet?
Yeah it was frustrating, but can easily be modified. Hope fully the manufacturer will change this after seeing the video 👍🏼 love that idea, stay tuned! 🤩
I have one all you do is disconnected the switch. brilliant cheaper for the cost
I've got the Hyundai hych1500e2. Most impressive chipper on Leylandi I've seen in it's size. Like the Lumag you have to disconnect the safety button, it's just too sensitive.
Try them against the Camon and they are a big improvement.
Thank you for the brilliant comparrison! I would love to hear your oppinion on the ceccato tritone one, especially the 400V version, any chance you take a look at it?
Well done...thank you!!
To stop over spray bolt a piece of square troughing to to outlet, any diy store sell it . Helps to fire into wheelbarrow.
Dropped a like just for the shot of 4 wheel barrels in a wheel barrel
Really? Thanks mate.. I swear it’s easier to be positive, but for some reason people choose the negative life. I could pick you up on your spelling, but…. 😉
Gravity fed drum chippers don't deal with dead branches very well. If you drop in some fresh branching after they'll help keep the dead ones against the drum so they won't bounce around in the chute all day. Same is true for 'sticks' ie. stuff with no bounciness to them.
I have a gtm very good machine. No longer required now for sale.
I'd love to know how well the shredder works with straw and newspaper.
Great video. Thanks. Which of the Hansa models was that please?
This was the C7 👍🏼
Thanks!
Hi James Nice One all look good machines Think I've said before used to use a elite major at work that did not have the spout just dropped on the ground worst thing was filling with petrol tank not in the best position Thanks again
Thanks Darran, yes they still make that machine but not so common now, I completely agree, it is awkward. Luckily they also make one with the tank on top now.
@@MachineryNation Thanks for the reply I Keep looking at getting my own small chipper/ shredder Thanks again
Could you review the crytec terminator. It’s road towable and seem like a ok entry level chipper
I own another clone of the China made one, it is really easy to rewire them to ignore that safety bar, understand that basically the switch earths out the ignition and you can figure the rest out. There are even very handy automotive plugs used in the wiring to aid in this process. Mine runs like a dream, don't overfeed it and don't try to chop touch dry wood, it'll block on that, but you can easily fold open the feed shoot, and underneath move a massive section of steel blade to unclog the drum, no need to actually take anything apart, the outfeed is more of a pain, especially if you have some muscles in your forearm, its 4 bolts and you gotta lift the whole thing off, tbh that is my only complaint of this model, otherwise i think it outperforms pretty much all of the competition. Owh and to deal with the kicking heavy branches up and down, just follow a piece like that with a branch with decent amount of foliage and feed that foliage one in reverse, leaves first, it'll hold down the piece that wants to go flying and the chipper will just eat both of them.
I like the Hansa and the GTM. Eliet is also a good one, but I thought that it is more powerful and faster but it was not.
The shredder is by far the best
i have the Victory tractor one, similar to the GTM but a bit bigger and it loves thicker wood (up to 15cm if you feed slowly), not so good for tiny little twig branches (the go through in longer pieces if you don't feed something thicker with them at the same time), and it handles conifers better then these did, great little machine ! From China too probably , bought through Germany directly from the "manufacturer" :D
It has the emergency stop metal bar around the infeed chute like the Lumag, I never mounted it to prevent it from shutting off with every big branch :D
That’s the trouble with safety bars, unless you can work with them, people will remove them so there is no safety bar. Thanks John 👍🏼
@@MachineryNation yeah, but it has a emergency off button at the base you can shut off with your foot quickly so at least something... And I plan to add another button to the switch that was activated by the bar
Good work
By adjustment of the red bar stop device, do you mean take it off. LOL. My shredder (earthquake?) has been adjusted like that. Yes I can't sell it because it'll take the hand off a less competent person but I know what it'll shred and what it'll chip. Had it for 20yrs and apart a bit of welding it's great at what it does. I do look at new shredders and think, mmmmm. Great vid of different machines and their capabilities.
The GTM chipper is good I used the 1300 but the lack of rotation on the funnel let’s it down and it’s sales.
hansa is impressive for such a Small engine the flywheel seems faster and easier to unblock the other one the safety rail can be removed and still have the bar on the bottom, the drums like that are a huge pain to unblock they can seize up real good
Has anybody tried the lumag 15hp pro ?
I’m torn between the lumag and Timberwolf 13hp.
Unless you have very long arms , the Hansa blades can't be reached from the normal standing position. I don't know about the other machines on test, but I wouldn't buy one that allowed my hand anywhere near the blades when feeding the branches. I've had an early model C7 for over 10 years and only had a few minor issues with it. Best to cut the long stuff over 35-40mm into shorter pieces as it tends to bog down when the edge goes off the blades. Overall a sturdy robust machine. Replacement blades in Australia are $160 and you can usually get about 3 sharpens out of them if there not too knocked around.
I would put my old mtd 475 7.5hp up against any of them 3 happily..this review tells me everything I need to know .. stick with the chipper /shredder double chute deals privit ..one thing I never seen any of them tackle..
Thanks Billy, interesting feedback 👍🏼
Timberwolf and Greenmech both make small chippers like these.
The GTM is not from the Netherlands, it's a China made machine branded in tens if not hundreds of different names. The hopper and chute might differ slightly as we as the color of course. I have a 15HP version, and it's actually very good. It sat for 2 years at my summerhouse and started on the second pull. Remember to shut the fuel valve and run the carburetor trough before storing and it's reliable.
I bought the lumag after watching this 😅
Nice machines...
Masters of the Greenyverse..
Shredder & Krang.😅
Safety bar to stop it, actually making it more unsafe in how it will get used. Engineers and their bright ideas.
Cheers 👍🏼
Can help me, How much is this machine?
Do you know if there is such a thing as a three phase electric shredder on the market ?
Thank you for explaining the difference between chippers and Shredders.
Not that I’m aware of, maybe in the paper shredding world but not as a wood chipper 🤷🏼♂️
I think the Lumag is also available with a 380V engine
Eliet do their shredder with an electric motor rather than petrol motor option. (Might only be the minor 4S and not the Major 4S that has the electric option, but think they may offer both)
6:47 the way he looks at it
Hansa for me C16 is the go
Maybe you can test some other chippers. Hansa c13 vs jansen gts 1500 vs fbc cip 8 vs timberwolf tw13
Good plan, I will put the wheels in motion 👍🏼
@@MachineryNation top
Hello when do you Test New chippers
Iam thinking of using a cutting disk to take that handle off the cobra by the way!!
Does it do bamboo
So my takeaway is to make bedding for the animals get a shredder.
All i wanna know is, which one of these machines converts tree branches into a flurry of £100 notes
They all do.. that’s why Tree Surgeons are so wealthy 😂
Very good comparison there 👍
I looked for comparison videos last year as needed a chipper, this would've been the perfect video!
I ended up getting a Chinese machine similar to the GTM but scaled down abit, only bought for 1 job with poor access and it paid for itself on that job really.
Might give it a bigger engine soon as think it will improve it further and comes in really handy.
Thank you for your feedback, really appreciate it 👍🏼
Good video
Nice video James, by chance would you recommend the shredder or a chipper for disposing of a spouse..... asking for a friend. 🤣
😂😂😂 bigger the better 🤦🏻♂️
Thanks 🤣🤣
The Elliot is better with hedge cuttings, horses on coarses
Yeah much better with free waste and leafs, thanks Stuart 👍🏼
Those last two seemed to suck compared to the others. Didn’t feed nearly as well
horse power horse power horse power self feeding. 15hp is the minimum, but ideally 22hp should be your minimum.
Very good video but you forgot to do something putting a mannequin in them and to see if they will be shredded or different objects you can put in there that will be a great video
Haha funny you should say that Sparky, I’ve got a wad of cash not doing much 😂😂
eliet pour moi est le meilleur