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Take it easy on that thread sealer. Putting it on heavy like that will cause it to squish out a bit when tightening. That mixing with oil is bad. If that gets sucked into the oil pick up... bye bye motor. Just use a new crush washer. I've never used thread sealer on drain bolts. Obviously by now you know about that toque wrench. Don't do that. You can call me if you get stuck lol.
Use a drill bit tinier than screw. drill the screw, and put a new and tiny screw in broken screw. use locktite on tiny screw, wait 1 day and try to make loose tiny screw. hopefull and if you're lucky, locktite will work and little screw make loose with big, broken screw. (use a phillips/cross screw for little one) btw, everybody comments about your torque wrench knowledge or something you do/dont. you re doing great job and i love when you are asking us for a problem or consult us like a real person in garage. its hard when you re doing it with just camera. hopefully people stop critisize you and giving advice or try help. thanks for this effort dude, you re the best !
Wow... Uhm, first time on a torque wrench? I did the same thing. Don't feel bad. We all learn the hard way at times. Love the vids. Your'e a cool guy to hang out with.
Everyone makes mistakes that's how you learn. You don't just know everything. Loving the series chase. Gives me something to look forward to each week on RUclips!
As soon as I saw that big ass torque wrench I knew this episode would end with broken bolts haha, inch pounds not foot pounds Chase! use a smaller wrench, you don't need so much leverage on small easy to turn bolts
That's why you look up videos on how to use the torque wrench. :) When the torque wrench clicks, you stop. The wrench does not disengage the drive when you reach the torque spec. time to tap and drill the screws out. I'd recommend letting a shop do that though.
Yeah, bad. No respect for torque settings, terrible sealant application, didn't air blast out the engine before replacing the generator cover. Who knows what kind of metal chunk is floating around on that engine, I wish Chase all the luck with this one and eagerly watch each video.
If I'm mistaken you may have had the wrong torque spec. You have multiple "10" settings. Foot pound, inch pounds... Also try taking The cover off, you may be able to still take you the bolt out if enough is still sticking out
Crush washers are usually one time use! They 'Crush' when torqued down to complete the seal. When removing a crush washer, it should be replaced, probably helped with that oil leak.
It is probably not even a crush washer but just a regular copper/aluminium washer that helps sealing. I've never heard of anyone using sealant for oil pan bolts...
They are always softer metal that "crushes" to conform to the shape of the bolt and opposite mating surface. Usually aluminum or copper, and you can usually get a couple uses out of them. When you pull them off you can see how they deform/conform to the surfaces.
wlsnjpn yea I are right he just needs to take the time to actually try researching things but hey trial and error is a good way also Just sucks cuz now he's gonna have to take that cover back off and try to drill out that bolt lol which means draining the oil again
Good on you for being Real! Most people wouldn't show the f#*k ups... I'm a mechanic so I'm cringing every time you even look at the bike 😂 don't give up, every mistake is a lesson learned, and a damn good laugh for your viewers 👍
i don't think that you can set 10nm of torque on that big of a torque wrench:D maybe you accidently set it to 100?! normaly torque wrenches for such low force are smaler... those big ones are for like torquing your wheel on your car ... EDIT: WAIT 15:52 you can hear the click:D you should have stopped:D which such a long handle you can easily torque 120Nm you can unscrew the screw with a special bit. it drills into the screw counterclock wise . so it loosens up the screw when it is in place:)
no every nut and evry bolt has to be tightend spacificly. evry bolt can handly different tourque. bigger bolt more torque. if it is too loose it will leak or have uneven wear or becomes loose. it it is to tight it will break off:) he shows us, that after a bolt is tight it will snap:) i did it by myself:) 10Nm of torque is like nothing really... with this long handle it is maybe only the force of opening a preopend bottle:D
@chaseontwowheels Jeez. Look at all the comments from all the know-it-all bike expert mechanics being all condescending smart asses about the torque wrench issue and the thread sealer. We all know, and Chase is real open about not being great with tools. He's learning as he goes, which some of you smart asses need to remember how you learnt things too. Overall he's doing a damned good job. Here's the thing, for just about every mistake he's making, I'm learning not to make the same mistake when it comes to doing stuff on my bike, and I'm shit with tools also. So thanks Chase for having the balls to show the vids how they are, with all the things going wrong and not just editing it to show the things going right - because I'm learning as you go right with you, and it will save me a lot of heartache when working on my own bike! Tell him how he's going wrong to learn from it and put things right guys, just stop being total wankers about it while you do so.
It does take balls to admit when you don't know or when you fucked up. Chase, just youtube how to use a torque wrench and you'll understand how to use it. It is really easy. Don't be so hard on yourself on the broken bolts. It happens to everyone new who works on mechanical bits. If I were your neighbor, I would've been glad to come help you. I think you're doing great so far! Be sure to ask about making sure the threads weren't stretched when you impacted them.
As many before me stated, the torque wrench clicked and he kept on tightening. So probably the right setting. Hope the issue with the broken bolt is resolved and keep that spirit up. Don't let this get you down. It's all part of learning how to do this stuff. Thanks for taking us along on this "journey" and showing us when things go awry. Looking forward to next weeks video!
Dude don't sweat it, I think we've all been there. You're doing great and learning something in the process! Btw I just gotta say it... I had the same bike.. watching this series is totally amping me up to start riding again!!!
Can't learn without making mistakes... the great thing is that so many of us are learning from your mistake. You are performing a valuable service here.
There is a difference in foot pound and inch pounds. that torque wrench I would say is to big for that type of application. And the bolts are most likely cracked from the impact driver. Also pick up some easy outs.
EastPhilly ya but that's a half inch torque wrench. Most of the time one that big the lowest setting is 10 to 12 foot pounds. I wouldn't trust a ratchet that close to the end of the scale.
The easy outs are the only thing I can think of...but you'll have to be careful not to damage the threads when you're using them...if you decide to go that route +chaseontwowheels.
EnKay Moto if you don't have a shit impact you can break bolts with an impact.Broken beyond my share with them especially if the bolt have been in some sort of serious strain or accident.
Didnt read too many of the comments so im not sure if anyone mentioned this.. the torque specs that you read (9,10,11) are most likely in INLB that kind of torque wrench will be in FTLB. depending on where that first bolt cracked, you can either try to use a easy out OR if you can see if the bolt is past the actual steel part of the engine you can try to take the entire cover off and if its out far enough you might be able to use your vice grips to clamp onto the bolt and unscrew it. Good luck!
Take off the cover and see if you have some threads sticking out, if so your needle nose vice grips will do the trick, if no threads are sticking out, a thread extractor is your next best choice.
Hi Chase don't worry about the Bolts snapping its all part of Learning how to do things yourself, I am 58 and have only ever used Torque Wrench for tightening cylinder head bolts down when in my late teens every other bolt i have ever Tightened and there have been thousands on various type of machines including bikes and cars i have done by hand without a Torque wrench and have never had a problem...Please continue with your learning process and remember we all make mistakes...Those who are not prepared to get there hands Dirty will never learn anything, the best way to learn is by doing it yourself . Good Luck and all the very Best.
Hey Chase, among all the hate I just wanted to drop some love. Keep up the good work man and this is exactly why I take all my vehicles in to get any work done.
alright so look up how to use a torque wrench but all new screws the old ones went threw to much stress and were probably already stress fractured. to get the broken bolt out u need 1 a smaller drill to fit inside the bolt make sure it's not to big then 2 u need a broken bolt removal kit have fun it's a big pain in the arse if u don't know what your doing
Worth noting: You could concievably get a lot of the parts that were replaced here for less than full dealer retail if you're crafty. Especially if you're not working on a Ducati, ebay is overflowing with used motorcycle parts, to say nothing of craigslist, enthusiast forums etc. I really like this series of videos though. I did a similar project on a ZX6R that was MUCH rougher than this recently, and it was super rewarding. I now have a working motorcycle AND a cool story to tell.
To fix the broken bolt in the crank case you will need to drill out the bolt and insert a Helicoil. The Helicoil is bolt and thread specific so you will need to reasearch the bolt dimensions.
Chase, as soon as I saw you pull out a 1/2" drive torque wrench, I knew EXACTLY what was going to happen. Here is some knowledge: -There are 3 types of measurements: foot-pounds (ft-lbs), inch-pounds (in-lbs), and Newton Meters (NM). 1NM ~= .73lb-tq. 1 lb-tq = 12 in-lb -Most Click-type torque wrenches are only accurate to a certain degree. For instance, 1/2" torque wrenches tend to be accurate to +- 5% from 20 - 200 lb-tq. A 1/4" torque wrench may be accurate from 20 - 200 in-lb. At the lower end of the scale, those wrenches become hugely inaccurate as well. That means if you adjusted that wrench to NM or ft-lb on bolts that needed in-lb, those bolts got over-torqued by over 10 times!!! -On that note, you DO NOT want to just loosen one bolt, then tighten it back up. Bolts generally need to be tightened up in a sequence, otherwise the part being torqued down can warp and not seal properly. Just like tightening down wheels, follow the recommended sequence. This usually ends up being some form of X or H pattern doing the tightening in several steps (loosely tighten, lightly torque, final torque). -10 in-lb of torque is a VERY small amount. Like no torque wrench needed, like just barely cinch them. -NEVER tighten bolts using power tools. Even torque wrenches aren't really needed 95% of the time, just do the final tighten by hand; you'll develop a feel for it. -Metal to metal doesn't seal for the most part. Crush washers/gaskets or some sort of sealant is always required. -NEVER use adapters on torque wrenches. If the bit doesn't fit, your using the wrong wrench. Adapters alter the final torque value slightly, giving you the wrong reading. -Generally when you deal with small bolts like that, think in-lb. Larger bolts (think lug-nut size) are in ft-lb. When in doubt, hand tighten till you feel it resist; let go, and retry till it resists again. You are generally within a reasonable range of the final torque doing this. -To get those bolts out, there are few tricks. The easiest would be to head to pay someone, but generally the way to do it is this: Something needs to attach to the bolt in a way that loosening it will grab the bolt. McMaster sells quality kits for this, but basically you drill out a hole, and use a "Bolt Extractor" designed with that drill bit that essentially dills in the opposite direction. When you loosen it, it digs deeper into the bolt. Now because that bolt is so small, this may prove difficult. Another way to do this is to tac-weld something to the remaining part of the bolt, and remove that way. If you buy a kit, DONT CHEAP OUT, get USA made stuff. Chinesium will be the death of you. Feel free to message me if you need advice, tech by trade here.
Follow the Steps.. 1) drill with anticlockwise drill bit 1/4 cm in centre like 1/2 cm. 2) put anticlockwise screw nut to tight up anticlockwise(make sure that the length of the nut is 1 cm and width 1/4 cm) 3) when it tighten up then slowly tight up anticlockwise . 4) after it comes out then put some other bolt and go to nearest service centre provider and let them do it. I hope it will help you. And try to find videos online .
That was painful to watch. Can I just come to your shop and spend some time going over the tools and some basics on how to use them? We're not far from you and I wouldn't mind, give us some place to take both rigs for the day. Don't even have to video it, I like your vids but that was painful to watch, I was yelling at the screen NOOOOOOO!
Chase, your videos are awesome and I'm a long time subscriber. Please take this fellow's offer and learn proper tool uses/techniques. From an aircraft mechanic's point of view, this was painful to watch. If I lived closer I'd offer to teach you myself.
epikcorvette saying you're an aircraft mechanic doesn't make your comment anymore important then anyone else's. His learning, we all make mistakes. How would you feel if you done a video on pulling a car apart and fixing it when you've never done it before and people give you shit for making a mistake?
Dude you are an inspiration for me. This is what salvage rebuilding is all about these are the struggles but you'll end up getting it on the road regardless.
For the really small/low torques you need a 1/4 drive torque wrench, ideally 1 of each (1/4, 3/8, 1/2) drives, this way you should have all of the torque values covered. I cannot be without them now as I used to have a bad habit of over tightening everything. Love the channel and especially this series, keep it up.
Chase, as far i know torque specs on a bike is in Nm. The newton metre (also newton-metre, symbol N m or N. m). 10 Nm is a light pressure. That big wrench is to be used on a military tank, not on that screws. :p. You like drones i know. Those tiny drones screws strips over 3Nm. So you can have an idea how light pressure is 10Nm. Also, thread sealant supposed to be used in threads. They can fill spaces between threaded metal parts, later hardening to prevent and stop leakages. You put everywhere but the threads. Try to stop the leak using a new fancy washer and the proper pressure (Nm) on that screw. I am not a fan using a chemical lock there because can contaminate the oil. Cheerz.
First, I'm sure there is a manual with your Torque wrench. From watching it looked like you were way, way above 10Nm. 10Nm is like holding the end of the Torque wrench with two fingers and tightening while you imagine playing with your girlfriend's nipples. It's a delicate business is what I'm trying to say. Also you can twist the handle on the Torque wrench several times over to get higher and higher Torque numbers with a wrench that has only ten marks on it. You might be at a 100Nm for all I know. Second, the crush washer on the drain plug "crushes". It is not reusable. The point is that it helps seal if you allow it to crush, but once crushed it will not deform again and fill in tiny gaps. Hence an oil leak. Third, I wouldn't recommend that you try to drill the screw end out. With your mechanical aptitude I fear that you'll end up grinding off the inside threads and then you're in a world of hurt. But basically drilling out the broken end is the way to go. On a lighter note, I like that you do this while obviously making all the rookie mistakes. There is nothing worse that some expert telling us amateurs how easy everything is and always getting it perfect the first time. So chin up and keep going, practise makes... Well for a shit load of mistakes, but you'll get there in the end.
To remove that bolt u need screw/bolt extractor kit, u drill a small hole in the screw that u broke off. Than with the right bid size u unscrew it. Notice that the extractor bid has counter clockwise thread so it will tighten itself forcing the bolt u snapped to come out.
Drill a small hole in the bolt and use an easy out extractor. You overtightened the bolt with that big ass torque wrench. Anything under 25ft lbs tq you should be using the smallest torque wrench possible. The troque wrench you have clicked the moment you started torquing the bolt because it has so much leverage due to its lengh. 10foot pounds of toque means you apply 10lbs of leverage on a 1ft wrench. The longer the wrench/pipe etc that 10lbs multiplies fast.
s140s chase if you read this drill a hole in the center of the bolt and make sure it is the center incase the extractor doesn't work then you can slowly drill and step up sizes if it doesn't work and then you don't have to retap the threads
Yeah it was fully torqued like 5 secs in and when I seen him keep going I thought "ohhhhhhhh shit" lol but hey we all have to learn somehow. Chase if you see this try drilling it and using an easy out as he said, also be careful that can go bad really fast too. I'd say just take it to the machine shop and let them handle it..HOWEVER drain your oil before you take it or you'll be SOL with that as well.
Chase! Just get a bolt extractor kit and follow the directions. They're super easy and you wouldn't have to pay someone. Also look up to see if the bolts are "torque to spec bolts" if they are you can't reuse them. If they're not then double check the torque wrench to make sure you're not over torquing them.
hey chase, to remove the bolt/screw you are going to need to buy a bolt extractor, its pretty much a drill that spins backwards so at a point it locks into the bolt and spins it out. as far as why the bolt broke that is either due to over tightening or the threads are messed up, you will need to buy a tap and die set and retread the holes in the cover
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Chase! There's no way that torque wrench goes as low as you think it does! And be sure if you need 10flbs or 10nm! Get yourself over to Mountain Motor sports for a few lessons in this stuff or you're going to die on your first test ride! I love your adventurous spirit in all this bud but you need more knowledge before attempting some of this stuff.
Philip Carr Could be mate. But with it being a European bike I'd sort of expect the presure to be in NM. Well never know unless Chase elaborates a bit more. My mind is still blown by the fact he hasn't even bought a workshop manual for the thing! 😨
To remove the bolts, you can get drill bits designed for that. They have a reverse twist and spin the bolt out as they drill into them. It is scary to do, so it is ok to just pay someone else to do that. But by the looks of it, you tightened the bolts down too hard the first time. Honest mistake that everyone will do. You learned from it and seam to be great at admitting that so well done! Don't get too discouraged and just keep up the good work!
Chase, I'm a long time subscriber and I am also an engineer and former mechanic. I live in the Marietta/Kennesaw area. I would be glad to show you a few things before you break anything else.
Hey Chase ... I am a 35 year experienced auto tech ....I don't know everything .....I have figured out that there are many many videos on utube I learned how to alpine ski and tune and wax my own skis with the help of UTUBE. I watched many many many videos, I figured out who knew what they were doing and who didn't . I bet you could learn about TOURQE ....foot lbs. inch lbs Neuton meters. YOu could probably get that broken bolt out by yourself ...with the help of some Utube videos .....my recommendation....Delboys Garage . He does lots of simple skills videos, he builds bikes. I have also learned that if there is any dought at all in what you are doing ( mechanicly on the bikes) research it .
Man I have broken many bolts with a torque wrench don't be too hard on yourself. I am learning a great deal watching these videos. Thanks for introducing me to dashhub I think I am going to take on another bike project myself. My first bike, which I have now, is a Ninja 300 and it was in pretty bad shape, but by trial and error I got it looking and running good and it's because of videos like this. Anyways keep rocking it.
yeah and btw he did tighten all the bolts before using the impact wrench.. he did say he loosen all the bolts before tighten it with the torque wrench... the bolts could've been cracked when he used the impact gun
omg, dude, you've set your torque wrench to high. you should've first checked wich units it has. manual probably list torque in Nm and your torque wrench probably uses lb-ft system. plus it's hard to belive that you can even set 10Nm on a torque wrench this big. as of how to get the broken peace out: get oposite direction drill bit and try to drill it out, there is a good chance that it will unscrew it self.
You can buy an extractor bit at the hardware store. Extractor bit looks like a regular drill bit, but has a weird end on it which is made for removing broken bolts. They'll hook you up at the hardware store if you tell them what you need. You may end up having to remove the crankcase cover to get good access to the broken bolt. Either way just make sure you can access the broken bolt. Then you're going to take a center punch to the broken bolt and drill a small hole directly in the center, after you make an indent with the center punch. The hole should be about .25% the size of the bolt. Then take the extractor bit and a hammer and tap it into the hole that you've made in the broken bolt. Now attach your drill to it. Now back it out with the drill slowly. Now through the broken bolt on the ground and spit on it. Rejoice. This is probably how they'll do it at a shop if you take it to one, minus the spitting part.
Haha. I totally know how you feel. I broke several screws when I built and rebuilt my race quads. Don't feel bad, it happens to all of us at one point or another. Also, be sure to get your Torque Wrench calibrated. I just found out that this is needed, and should be done every so often based off usage. There should be information about where to send it to be calibrated.
Engine torque settings Part Thread (mm) Nm Min. Max. Generator Cover screws M6x1 10 9 11 The lowest setting in your torque wrench is 13.6 Nm (10 ft.-lb.) Ducati says that 11Nm is the max of torque Do not be discouraged the next time it will go better Keep up the good work and good luck for the next episode ;)
Try one of those bolt remover kits, I don't know if they make them that small. The thing I'm talking about works by drilling a hole into the broken bolt, then put the removal tool into the drilled hole and it should come right out. I think Moto used one on his dirt bike build.
Chase we had the same thing happen when we where Torque setting the screws holding down the clutch springs in the clutch. That was on my old four wheeler. That's the snap of money saying bye bye. Thankfully it wasn't expensive to have the screw bored out of the hole it goes in to. Your probably gunna want to take it to a shop to have it done just because of the location. It's kinda a critical spot. Unless you know somebody that is really trusty with a dill. There is a drill bit set you can buy to Re-Tap a broken screw body. Then it backs out the broken piece. Ether way man good luck sir!
if you want to get the bolt out that broke off, the easiest way is to get the ignition cover off again and you can get it out with your vice grips, and when tightening the bolt the torque wrench make a clicking sound, when you hear/feel than it's at 10 nm.
for torquing things down you want to know what the bolt is made of and if its the stock bolt. Also read how to use your torque wrench as you may have had it set to 100# rather than 10. as for getting the bolt out you may be able to tack weld to it and get it out. or just use a screw tap. drill in then use a T-handle to back it out slowly.
Don't be negative, you are learning and thats always good. I would take all the bolts out to check their condition before re-tightening them as the torque wrench could have damaged them all hence the breaking. Secondarily check the measurement inch-pound vs foot-pound and make sure what the wrench and measurements are
The best way to remove the broke off bolt is to carefully drill out the snapped off bolt and use a tap to make new threads for a slightly larger bolt. Hope this helps.
you can try to use a metal pick with a sharp point at the outer edge of the broken bolt. if it's loose enough you may be able to walk it out without removing the cover. it's worth a shot . good luck.
Perfect scenario. Chase says "This thing's awesome. I might have to steal it. Nobody tell Heather." At that moment Heather walks in and loses her mind over Chase swiping her tupperware to use as a catch can.
chase i did the same thing on my honda. best solution i have for you is to go to home depot and get the smallest ryobi screw extractor they have, or the 5 piece kit with the #1 size extractor. i was able to drill the screw tith black oxide drill bits, but if your bolts are stainless steel youll want cobalt bits
Careful between foot pound and inch pound, those small bolts are probably 100In/lb so that's about 10Ft/lb. As far as getting the bolt out, try a good screw/bolt extractor which will drill the center out then slowly try to reverse it. Otherwise you'll need to get someone to very carefully drill it out without killing the hole threads
Hey Chase, I think the torque setting is 10Nm as its a metric bolt. Your torque wrench looks like 1/2", It won't have 10Nm on there. You need a 1/4" or 3/8" torque wrench.
Buddy, every time you set the torque wrench you have to unscrew the lock nut and lose the handle/meter all the way to cero, then set it to the specific torque for each bolt, in this case I could see that there is a specific torque for all the cover. Watch out that the handle has two sides with different settings, one side is N/M which is Newton /Meters and the other side is FT/LBS which is Foot /Pounds. The other thing is that you have to set the torque wrench to specific torque according to the manual if you are using the factory bolts. If you change the bolts for SS hardware store ones I'll recommend you to buy factory ones. Cheers
Hey man, you need a 3/8 torque wrench. Look into a reverse easy out to get the broken bolts out. It's like a drill bit that can remove broken bolts with ease. If you want to do it the hard way, pull the cover off and take the bolt out by hand. It wont have any tension on it and come out easily.
pure comedy! got to love a trier, keep the great content coming, good to see you not hiding your mistakes, not the best way to learn bit it is a way to learn! 10 out of 10 for give it a go attitude.
The specs must be in inch pounds, not foot pounds. Chase, I think that you should try removing the bolts getting new ones and reinstalling them by hand without the impact. It's cool it how we all learn!! Keep the content coming!!
the torque wrench has a little click when you reach the right ft lbs of torque. As for the bolt that's stuck you need a counter spin bit. ( bolt remover tool ) I had to do the same thing on my truck when I snapped the bolt on the water pump.
Put JB Weld on the end of the broken piece screw it back in wait a few hours then take it out. If that doesn't work then your gonna have to tap it out. Hope this helps
Large torque wrenches are difficult to use on the lowest torque settings, or you may have been setting it for too high a torque. I did the same thing on my engine crankcase so I feel your pain! I bought smaller torque wrenches and they work much better for motorcycle applications. To remove the bolt I put a few drops of oil in the hole and was able to take some skinny needle nose pliers and pull the bolt out. Otherwise you may need to drill the bolt out which is not too hard, you just need a special bit, and remember to be careful around the threads.
I feel for you, man! I've been there many times... learning through trial and error, don't lose faith. Maybe you should consider getting someone with mechanical knowledge involved in the rebuild? There must be guys that watch your channel and are willing to help...That way you can learn on the job and avoid some of the 'doh!' moments! Good luck bro, you'll get there!
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chaseontwowheels Chase, what you doin up at 8:00 in the morning uploading a video? Huh buddy?
Been doing the same thing for about 3 years now. Also, who gets up at 8am? I been up since 6. ;)
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Take it easy on that thread sealer. Putting it on heavy like that will cause it to squish out a bit when tightening. That mixing with oil is bad. If that gets sucked into the oil pick up... bye bye motor. Just use a new crush washer. I've never used thread sealer on drain bolts. Obviously by now you know about that toque wrench. Don't do that. You can call me if you get stuck lol.
Jake TheGardenSnake he needs you there to do it, let alone call you, I know everyone has to start somewhere but god help whoever wins this bike 😳
Were you yelling at the screen with your hands in your head like I was as?
I think everyone was!
Motonosity had FryRiding.....Chase needs JakeTheGardenSnake in the same way.
aren't you glad that jake's a mechanic
"I WENT TO SCHOOL"
Kudos for posting a vid of you learning this stuff. Takes balls.
when I heard the first click and saw Chase still tighten the screw, I screamed at my phone lol
N3wYorkKnicks I think we all did
N3wYorkKnicks so did I, but on the torque wrench i use, when it clicks it doesn't tighten anymore no matter how much you still try to tighten it
N3wYorkKnicks I know right 😂
N3wYorkKnicks. i think we all where
lmao i yelled "STOP" like if it was a live feed....and then you hear SNAP
Use a drill bit tinier than screw. drill the screw, and put a new and tiny screw in broken screw. use locktite on tiny screw, wait 1 day and try to make loose tiny screw. hopefull and if you're lucky, locktite will work and little screw make loose with big, broken screw. (use a phillips/cross screw for little one)
btw, everybody comments about your torque wrench knowledge or something you do/dont. you re doing great job and i love when you are asking us for a problem or consult us like a real person in garage. its hard when you re doing it with just camera. hopefully people stop critisize you and giving advice or try help. thanks for this effort dude, you re the best !
Wow... Uhm, first time on a torque wrench? I did the same thing. Don't feel bad. We all learn the hard way at times. Love the vids. Your'e a cool guy to hang out with.
Everyone makes mistakes that's how you learn. You don't just know everything. Loving the series chase. Gives me something to look forward to each week on RUclips!
As soon as I saw that big ass torque wrench I knew this episode would end with broken bolts haha, inch pounds not foot pounds Chase! use a smaller wrench, you don't need so much leverage on small easy to turn bolts
I was thinking the same thing because I too have done this,lol.
That's why you look up videos on how to use the torque wrench. :) When the torque wrench clicks, you stop. The wrench does not disengage the drive when you reach the torque spec.
time to tap and drill the screws out. I'd recommend letting a shop do that though.
No he'll just use a dremel
your torque wrench clicked immediately, that meens its good. The long lever makes it so easy to over tighten
And probably the torque specs ar in Nm becouse its a euro bike, lbs feet are times 1.36 so over tightend by 36%
evert vd rijt Hence why it broke
makes sense. that seems to be why it broke
That screw is too small to be even in Nm its in-lbs that he should be using.
Thats also possible, or maybe Nm cm
RIP to whoever "Wins" this bike.
HAHAHAHA. Bro Im laughing.
I haven't laughed so hard In a while
Lmao
Yeah, bad. No respect for torque settings, terrible sealant application, didn't air blast out the engine before replacing the generator cover.
Who knows what kind of metal chunk is floating around on that engine, I wish Chase all the luck with this one and eagerly watch each video.
MrSloppy3000 Yeah I'm good. He has such a nice garage with all these nice tools and doesn't know how to use them. I'm so livid.
If I'm mistaken you may have had the wrong torque spec. You have multiple "10" settings. Foot pound, inch pounds...
Also try taking The cover off, you may be able to still take you the bolt out if enough is still sticking out
Stay positive!!
Crush washers are usually one time use! They 'Crush' when torqued down to complete the seal. When removing a crush washer, it should be replaced, probably helped with that oil leak.
It is probably not even a crush washer but just a regular copper/aluminium washer that helps sealing.
I've never heard of anyone using sealant for oil pan bolts...
itsa first for me
Yea not sure why people call these crush washers. They are definitely not.
They are always softer metal that "crushes" to conform to the shape of the bolt and opposite mating surface. Usually aluminum or copper, and you can usually get a couple uses out of them. When you pull them off you can see how they deform/conform to the surfaces.
Should name the series wrecked bike wrecking further. Poor Chase. Really don't understand why you don't research things a little bit further.
yea he sucks so bad at working on bikes he needs to just stick to riding them
Nick 636n8r Doesn't mean he can't continue to try and get more familiar with working on bikes though
wlsnjpn yea I are right he just needs to take the time to actually try researching things but hey trial and error is a good way also
Just sucks cuz now he's gonna have to take that cover back off and try to drill out that bolt lol which means draining the oil again
Good on you for being Real! Most people wouldn't show the f#*k ups... I'm a mechanic so I'm cringing every time you even look at the bike 😂 don't give up, every mistake is a lesson learned, and a damn good laugh for your viewers 👍
i don't think that you can set 10nm of torque on that big of a torque wrench:D maybe you accidently set it to 100?! normaly torque wrenches for such low force are smaler... those big ones are for like torquing your wheel on your car ...
EDIT: WAIT 15:52 you can hear the click:D you should have stopped:D which such a long handle you can easily torque 120Nm
you can unscrew the screw with a special bit. it drills into the screw counterclock wise . so it loosens up the screw when it is in place:)
you are supposed to use torque wrench to tighten down your wheels on cars or on trucks never on bikes or small bolts
Viken Torigian So wrong. So so wrong.
Yeah... what... that was so ignorant lol
Viken Torigian ALWAYS use a torque wrench on crankcase cover bolts, as well as 90% of the other bolts on your bike. They are incredibly easy to break
no every nut and evry bolt has to be tightend spacificly. evry bolt can handly different tourque. bigger bolt more torque. if it is too loose it will leak or have uneven wear or becomes loose. it it is to tight it will break off:) he shows us, that after a bolt is tight it will snap:)
i did it by myself:) 10Nm of torque is like nothing really... with this long handle it is maybe only the force of opening a preopend bottle:D
@chaseontwowheels
Jeez. Look at all the comments from all the know-it-all bike expert mechanics being all condescending smart asses about the torque wrench issue and the thread sealer.
We all know, and Chase is real open about not being great with tools. He's learning as he goes, which some of you smart asses need to remember how you learnt things too.
Overall he's doing a damned good job.
Here's the thing, for just about every mistake he's making, I'm learning not to make the same mistake when it comes to doing stuff on my bike, and I'm shit with tools also.
So thanks Chase for having the balls to show the vids how they are, with all the things going wrong and not just editing it to show the things going right - because I'm learning as you go right with you, and it will save me a lot of heartache when working on my own bike!
Tell him how he's going wrong to learn from it and put things right guys, just stop being total wankers about it while you do so.
+Draig UK your comment was awesome man. Glad you appreciate the series for what it is!
Draig UK Well said man!! i totally agree
too true
It does take balls to admit when you don't know or when you fucked up. Chase, just youtube how to use a torque wrench and you'll understand how to use it. It is really easy. Don't be so hard on yourself on the broken bolts. It happens to everyone new who works on mechanical bits. If I were your neighbor, I would've been glad to come help you. I think you're doing great so far! Be sure to ask about making sure the threads weren't stretched when you impacted them.
Draig UK I would've done 10x worse. I'm terrible with tools, like I can't even hammer a nail straight.
INCH POUNDS NOT FOOT POUNDS...NONONO...oh...goddamnit chase
Newton-metres, more likely.
With a Ducati quite possibly, my Kawasaki's small bolts are rated to in-lb.
No, its in-lbs 10Nm is about 7.3ft-lbs
If only you english countries stopped using your own length system and start using the international one ... T_T
Daedalus1632 trust me. we hate it as much as you guys do. it's the one non American thing that Americans want to convert to
As many before me stated, the torque wrench clicked and he kept on tightening. So probably the right setting. Hope the issue with the broken bolt is resolved and keep that spirit up. Don't let this get you down. It's all part of learning how to do this stuff.
Thanks for taking us along on this "journey" and showing us when things go awry. Looking forward to next weeks video!
Did you even put the thread sealent on the threads?
Hedén nope. just on the spacer so 50/50 chance it'll leak again. this bike's getting sketchy.
Hedén oh well i dont think he understands what a thread on a bolt is hahahahahah
Dude don't sweat it, I think we've all been there. You're doing great and learning something in the process! Btw I just gotta say it... I had the same bike.. watching this series is totally amping me up to start riding again!!!
For the broken bolt get a set of quality reverse drill bits
Or a set of bolt extractors/easy outs
Can't learn without making mistakes... the great thing is that so many of us are learning from your mistake. You are performing a valuable service here.
There is a difference in foot pound and inch pounds. that torque wrench I would say is to big for that type of application. And the bolts are most likely cracked from the impact driver. Also pick up some easy outs.
EastPhilly ya but that's a half inch torque wrench. Most of the time one that big the lowest setting is 10 to 12 foot pounds. I wouldn't trust a ratchet that close to the end of the scale.
The easy outs are the only thing I can think of...but you'll have to be careful not to damage the threads when you're using them...if you decide to go that route +chaseontwowheels.
EnKay Moto if you don't have a shit impact you can break bolts with an impact.Broken beyond my share with them especially if the bolt have been in some sort of serious strain or accident.
Didnt read too many of the comments so im not sure if anyone mentioned this.. the torque specs that you read (9,10,11) are most likely in INLB that kind of torque wrench will be in FTLB. depending on where that first bolt cracked, you can either try to use a easy out OR if you can see if the bolt is past the actual steel part of the engine you can try to take the entire cover off and if its out far enough you might be able to use your vice grips to clamp onto the bolt and unscrew it. Good luck!
Take off the cover and see if you have some threads sticking out, if so your needle nose vice grips will do the trick, if no threads are sticking out, a thread extractor is your next best choice.
Christian Alcala then he would have to fill it again with oil
yea
Hi Chase don't worry about the Bolts snapping its all part of Learning how to do things yourself, I am 58 and have only ever used Torque Wrench for tightening cylinder head bolts down when in my late teens every other bolt i have ever Tightened and there have been thousands on various type of machines including bikes and cars i have done by hand without a Torque wrench and have never had a problem...Please continue with your learning process and remember we all make mistakes...Those who are not prepared to get there hands Dirty will never learn anything, the best way to learn is by doing it yourself .
Good Luck and all the very Best.
when the torque wrench, clicks, you stop, and back off and listen for another click.
Hey Chase, among all the hate I just wanted to drop some love. Keep up the good work man and this is exactly why I take all my vehicles in to get any work done.
yo since u stoll the container get the lid and poke holes in the top make sure there small so If u drop something it won't fall in the oil
alright so look up how to use a torque wrench but all new screws the old ones went threw to much stress and were probably already stress fractured. to get the broken bolt out u need 1 a smaller drill to fit inside the bolt make sure it's not to big then 2 u need a broken bolt removal kit have fun it's a big pain in the arse if u don't know what your doing
Worth noting: You could concievably get a lot of the parts that were replaced here for less than full dealer retail if you're crafty. Especially if you're not working on a Ducati, ebay is overflowing with used motorcycle parts, to say nothing of craigslist, enthusiast forums etc.
I really like this series of videos though. I did a similar project on a ZX6R that was MUCH rougher than this recently, and it was super rewarding. I now have a working motorcycle AND a cool story to tell.
dude its only a negative note if you don't learn from your mistakes. educate yourself and move on and do better next time. keep up the great videos.
Re watching series 1 is the definition of all the gear, no idea.
Glad you have learnt
holy shit comment section is a war lmao
chase vs torque
To fix the broken bolt in the crank case you will need to drill out the bolt and insert a Helicoil. The Helicoil is bolt and thread specific so you will need to reasearch the bolt dimensions.
That's the funniest video I've ever seen I'm crying so hard
Chase, as soon as I saw you pull out a 1/2" drive torque wrench, I knew EXACTLY what was going to happen. Here is some knowledge:
-There are 3 types of measurements: foot-pounds (ft-lbs), inch-pounds (in-lbs), and Newton Meters (NM). 1NM ~= .73lb-tq. 1 lb-tq = 12 in-lb
-Most Click-type torque wrenches are only accurate to a certain degree. For instance, 1/2" torque wrenches tend to be accurate to +- 5% from 20 - 200 lb-tq. A 1/4" torque wrench may be accurate from 20 - 200 in-lb. At the lower end of the scale, those wrenches become hugely inaccurate as well. That means if you adjusted that wrench to NM or ft-lb on bolts that needed in-lb, those bolts got over-torqued by over 10 times!!!
-On that note, you DO NOT want to just loosen one bolt, then tighten it back up. Bolts generally need to be tightened up in a sequence, otherwise the part being torqued down can warp and not seal properly. Just like tightening down wheels, follow the recommended sequence. This usually ends up being some form of X or H pattern doing the tightening in several steps (loosely tighten, lightly torque, final torque).
-10 in-lb of torque is a VERY small amount. Like no torque wrench needed, like just barely cinch them.
-NEVER tighten bolts using power tools. Even torque wrenches aren't really needed 95% of the time, just do the final tighten by hand; you'll develop a feel for it.
-Metal to metal doesn't seal for the most part. Crush washers/gaskets or some sort of sealant is always required.
-NEVER use adapters on torque wrenches. If the bit doesn't fit, your using the wrong wrench. Adapters alter the final torque value slightly, giving you the wrong reading.
-Generally when you deal with small bolts like that, think in-lb. Larger bolts (think lug-nut size) are in ft-lb. When in doubt, hand tighten till you feel it resist; let go, and retry till it resists again. You are generally within a reasonable range of the final torque doing this.
-To get those bolts out, there are few tricks. The easiest would be to head to pay someone, but generally the way to do it is this: Something needs to attach to the bolt in a way that loosening it will grab the bolt. McMaster sells quality kits for this, but basically you drill out a hole, and use a "Bolt Extractor" designed with that drill bit that essentially dills in the opposite direction. When you loosen it, it digs deeper into the bolt. Now because that bolt is so small, this may prove difficult. Another way to do this is to tac-weld something to the remaining part of the bolt, and remove that way. If you buy a kit, DONT CHEAP OUT, get USA made stuff. Chinesium will be the death of you.
Feel free to message me if you need advice, tech by trade here.
Hang in there chase, I wrench on cars professionally and this happens.
Follow the Steps..
1) drill with anticlockwise drill bit 1/4 cm in centre like 1/2 cm.
2) put anticlockwise screw nut to tight up anticlockwise(make sure that the length of the nut is 1 cm and width 1/4 cm)
3) when it tighten up then slowly tight up anticlockwise .
4) after it comes out then put some other bolt and go to nearest service centre provider and let them do it.
I hope it will help you.
And try to find videos online .
That was painful to watch. Can I just come to your shop and spend some time going over the tools and some basics on how to use them? We're not far from you and I wouldn't mind, give us some place to take both rigs for the day. Don't even have to video it, I like your vids but that was painful to watch, I was yelling at the screen NOOOOOOO!
Well said
Chase, your videos are awesome and I'm a long time subscriber.
Please take this fellow's offer and learn proper tool uses/techniques.
From an aircraft mechanic's point of view, this was painful to watch.
If I lived closer I'd offer to teach you myself.
Gone Uraling he can fix the bike however her wants ffs if it was your bike and I told u that u would get pissed off
epikcorvette saying you're an aircraft mechanic doesn't make your comment anymore important then anyone else's. His learning, we all make mistakes. How would you feel if you done a video on pulling a car apart and fixing it when you've never done it before and people give you shit for making a mistake?
It just makes him look like a condescending buffoon
Dude you are an inspiration for me. This is what salvage rebuilding is all about these are the struggles but you'll end up getting it on the road regardless.
No way that torque wrench was at the correct settings
TH3PITTY fucking thing clicked he kept tightening it lmao
Jason Daniel I realise that now that I have re watched it now my bad
For the really small/low torques you need a 1/4 drive torque wrench, ideally 1 of each (1/4, 3/8, 1/2) drives, this way you should have all of the torque values covered. I cannot be without them now as I used to have a bad habit of over tightening everything.
Love the channel and especially this series, keep it up.
Chase, as far i know torque specs on a bike is in Nm. The newton metre (also newton-metre, symbol N m or N. m). 10 Nm is a light pressure. That big wrench is to be used on a military tank, not on that screws. :p. You like drones i know. Those tiny drones screws strips over 3Nm. So you can have an idea how light pressure is 10Nm. Also, thread sealant supposed to be used in threads. They can fill spaces between threaded metal parts, later hardening to prevent and stop leakages. You put everywhere but the threads. Try to stop the leak using a new fancy washer and the proper pressure (Nm) on that screw. I am not a fan using a chemical lock there because can contaminate the oil. Cheerz.
Now that's what i call QUALITY CONTENT. Fantastic entertainment Chase. Ok, so you messed up, who of us doesn't ? Keep the great stuff coming man.
First, I'm sure there is a manual with your Torque wrench. From watching it looked like you were way, way above 10Nm. 10Nm is like holding the end of the Torque wrench with two fingers and tightening while you imagine playing with your girlfriend's nipples. It's a delicate business is what I'm trying to say. Also you can twist the handle on the Torque wrench several times over to get higher and higher Torque numbers with a wrench that has only ten marks on it. You might be at a 100Nm for all I know.
Second, the crush washer on the drain plug "crushes". It is not reusable. The point is that it helps seal if you allow it to crush, but once crushed it will not deform again and fill in tiny gaps. Hence an oil leak.
Third, I wouldn't recommend that you try to drill the screw end out. With your mechanical aptitude I fear that you'll end up grinding off the inside threads and then you're in a world of hurt. But basically drilling out the broken end is the way to go.
On a lighter note, I like that you do this while obviously making all the rookie mistakes. There is nothing worse that some expert telling us amateurs how easy everything is and always getting it perfect the first time.
So chin up and keep going, practise makes... Well for a shit load of mistakes, but you'll get there in the end.
To remove that bolt u need screw/bolt extractor kit, u drill a small hole in the screw that u broke off. Than with the right bid size u unscrew it. Notice that the extractor bid has counter clockwise thread so it will tighten itself forcing the bolt u snapped to come out.
Drill a small hole in the bolt and use an easy out extractor.
You overtightened the bolt with that big ass torque wrench. Anything under 25ft lbs tq you should be using the smallest torque wrench possible. The troque wrench you have clicked the moment you started torquing the bolt because it has so much leverage due to its lengh. 10foot pounds of toque means you apply 10lbs of leverage on a 1ft wrench. The longer the wrench/pipe etc that 10lbs multiplies fast.
s140s chase if you read this drill a hole in the center of the bolt and make sure it is the center incase the extractor doesn't work then you can slowly drill and step up sizes if it doesn't work and then you don't have to retap the threads
Yeah it was fully torqued like 5 secs in and when I seen him keep going I thought "ohhhhhhhh shit" lol but hey we all have to learn somehow. Chase if you see this try drilling it and using an easy out as he said, also be careful that can go bad really fast too. I'd say just take it to the machine shop and let them handle it..HOWEVER drain your oil before you take it or you'll be SOL with that as well.
Keep your head up Chase! It's all a learning process. I have done the same thing on my CRF. It happens to the best of us dude...
should have tried it one more time ... third times a charm !!!
Chase! Just get a bolt extractor kit and follow the directions. They're super easy and you wouldn't have to pay someone. Also look up to see if the bolts are "torque to spec bolts" if they are you can't reuse them. If they're not then double check the torque wrench to make sure you're not over torquing them.
Im willing to bet that torque wrench does not go less than 30Nm of Torque.
Im Dead Silence Reckon it would. Look at the size of it. Will be Nm. being Italian.
30-140Nm no less is what im saying. Its far too big for 10Nm bolts.
hey chase, to remove the bolt/screw you are going to need to buy a bolt extractor, its pretty much a drill that spins backwards so at a point it locks into the bolt and spins it out. as far as why the bolt broke that is either due to over tightening or the threads are messed up, you will need to buy a tap and die set and retread the holes in the cover
I know how to use a torque wrench and I'm only 14
A 14 year old that doesn't understand bragging.
And I learned how to piss in a toilet when I was 23 months. Questions? Comments? Concerns?
(AKA- Some people understand somethings better than others. Like my ability to use punctuation, and your inability to. Of course I'm not a high school student anymore. Much less fourteen.)
By far one of my favorite series! Love the music in the background!
Chase! There's no way that torque wrench goes as low as you think it does!
And be sure if you need 10flbs or 10nm!
Get yourself over to Mountain Motor sports for a few lessons in this stuff or you're going to die on your first test ride!
I love your adventurous spirit in all this bud but you need more knowledge before attempting some of this stuff.
Rob Ash it can go as low as 10 ft lbs on a big torque wrench like that
Aaron Ramos
I stand corrected then mate.
I have to admit I was just going off the large wrenches I have, none of which go down to 10.
Cheers bud.
Rob Ash I'm betting that they should be tightened to 10 inch pounds. They are very small and going into aluminum.
Philip Carr
Could be mate. But with it being a European bike I'd sort of expect the presure to be in NM.
Well never know unless Chase elaborates a bit more.
My mind is still blown by the fact he hasn't even bought a workshop manual for the thing! 😨
To remove the bolts, you can get drill bits designed for that. They have a reverse twist and spin the bolt out as they drill into them. It is scary to do, so it is ok to just pay someone else to do that. But by the looks of it, you tightened the bolts down too hard the first time. Honest mistake that everyone will do. You learned from it and seam to be great at admitting that so well done! Don't get too discouraged and just keep up the good work!
wrong setting on your torque wrench...screw extractor
glad you posted this, at least others can learn from this mistake and not make it themselves!
Woow hahahha I laughed so hard at the end
Chase, I'm a long time subscriber and I am also an engineer and former mechanic. I live in the Marietta/Kennesaw area. I would be glad to show you a few things before you break anything else.
Hey Chase ... I am a 35 year experienced auto tech ....I don't know everything .....I have figured out that there are many many videos on utube
I learned how to alpine ski and tune and wax my own skis with the help of UTUBE. I watched many many many videos, I figured out who knew what they were doing and who didn't . I bet you could learn about TOURQE ....foot lbs. inch lbs Neuton meters. YOu could probably get that broken bolt out by yourself ...with the help of some Utube videos .....my recommendation....Delboys Garage . He does lots of simple skills videos, he builds bikes. I have also learned that if there is any dought at all in what you are doing ( mechanicly on the bikes) research it .
I learned how to snowboard and wax/tune my board from RUclips.
Man I have broken many bolts with a torque wrench don't be too hard on yourself. I am learning a great deal watching these videos. Thanks for introducing me to dashhub I think I am going to take on another bike project myself. My first bike, which I have now, is a Ninja 300 and it was in pretty bad shape, but by trial and error I got it looking and running good and it's because of videos like this. Anyways keep rocking it.
the bolt broke because u used an impact gun on it... no because of bad bolt... welp gonna learn by failing
Derrik Leow He used an impact wrench not gun and the bolt broke because he tightened it too much...
He used foot pounds of pressure not inch pounds. :P That wrench is too big for that bolt.
yeah and btw he did tighten all the bolts before using the impact wrench.. he did say he loosen all the bolts before tighten it with the torque wrench... the bolts could've been cracked when he used the impact gun
Derrik Leow thats all bs he just dont know how to use a torque wrench
There was never an impact gun what are you on about.
Great to see an honest mistake like this - it serves as a great teaching aid. I'm sure it's something all of us have done! Hope it's easily sorted.
omg, dude, you've set your torque wrench to high. you should've first checked wich units it has. manual probably list torque in Nm and your torque wrench probably uses lb-ft system. plus it's hard to belive that you can even set 10Nm on a torque wrench this big. as of how to get the broken peace out: get oposite direction drill bit and try to drill it out, there is a good chance that it will unscrew it self.
Tema2K you can, I'm pretty sure I found his wrench and it's base is 6.8NM
***** i have similar size and it starts from 10nm :) but i would never use it for 10nm torque :)
You can buy an extractor bit at the hardware store. Extractor bit looks like a regular drill bit, but has a weird end on it which is made for removing broken bolts. They'll hook you up at the hardware store if you tell them what you need. You may end up having to remove the crankcase cover to get good access to the broken bolt. Either way just make sure you can access the broken bolt. Then you're going to take a center punch to the broken bolt and drill a small hole directly in the center, after you make an indent with the center punch. The hole should be about .25% the size of the bolt. Then take the extractor bit and a hammer and tap it into the hole that you've made in the broken bolt. Now attach your drill to it. Now back it out with the drill slowly. Now through the broken bolt on the ground and spit on it. Rejoice. This is probably how they'll do it at a shop if you take it to one, minus the spitting part.
not sure id like to own that bike anymore. lol
Haha. I totally know how you feel. I broke several screws when I built and rebuilt my race quads. Don't feel bad, it happens to all of us at one point or another.
Also, be sure to get your Torque Wrench calibrated. I just found out that this is needed, and should be done every so often based off usage. There should be information about where to send it to be calibrated.
TBH I would of never thought to reuse the oil, i would of gotten new oil, we are all retarded sometimes am i right.
Engine torque settings
Part Thread (mm) Nm Min. Max.
Generator Cover screws M6x1 10 9 11
The lowest setting in your torque wrench is 13.6 Nm (10 ft.-lb.)
Ducati says that 11Nm is the max of torque
Do not be discouraged the next time it will go better
Keep up the good work and good luck for the next episode ;)
lol dude just cut a hole in the side of the oil container
By far the funniest video I've seen lmao. As soon as it clicks and he keeps going I yell nooooo!!!
Love you Chase but this is painful to watch...I really feel for the poor guy/girl that wins this bike
tweetchris46 the winner can give the videos to the mechanich to fix his New bike 😂
Try one of those bolt remover kits, I don't know if they make them that small. The thing I'm talking about works by drilling a hole into the broken bolt, then put the removal tool into the drilled hole and it should come right out. I think Moto used one on his dirt bike build.
Don't ever use tools. Your a computer guy, stick with that.
Chase we had the same thing happen when we where Torque setting the screws holding down the clutch springs in the clutch. That was on my old four wheeler. That's the snap of money saying bye bye. Thankfully it wasn't expensive to have the screw bored out of the hole it goes in to. Your probably gunna want to take it to a shop to have it done just because of the location. It's kinda a critical spot. Unless you know somebody that is really trusty with a dill. There is a drill bit set you can buy to Re-Tap a broken screw body. Then it backs out the broken piece. Ether way man good luck sir!
We all make mistakes in the garage. Don't let that get you down chase, we all love the series.
if you want to get the bolt out that broke off, the easiest way is to get the ignition cover off again and you can get it out with your vice grips, and when tightening the bolt the torque wrench make a clicking sound, when you hear/feel than it's at 10 nm.
props to Chace. Learning to work on your own stuff is a hard trial and error. I ruined tons of threads learning to work on my first car.
for torquing things down you want to know what the bolt is made of and if its the stock bolt. Also read how to use your torque wrench as you may have had it set to 100# rather than 10. as for getting the bolt out you may be able to tack weld to it and get it out. or just use a screw tap. drill in then use a T-handle to back it out slowly.
Don't be negative, you are learning and thats always good. I would take all the bolts out to check their condition before re-tightening them as the torque wrench could have damaged them all hence the breaking. Secondarily check the measurement inch-pound vs foot-pound and make sure what the wrench and measurements are
The best way to remove the broke off bolt is to carefully drill out the snapped off bolt and use a tap to make new threads for a slightly larger bolt. Hope this helps.
Omg CHASE, that first click was the torque wrench saying you're done!!! 15:53
you can try to use a metal pick with a sharp point at the outer edge of the broken bolt. if it's loose enough you may be able to walk it out without removing the cover. it's worth a shot . good luck.
@20:00 chaseontwowheels u have to make sure it says foot pounds or inch pounds of torque to tighten it down to
Perfect scenario. Chase says "This thing's awesome. I might have to steal it. Nobody tell Heather." At that moment Heather walks in and loses her mind over Chase swiping her tupperware to use as a catch can.
chase i did the same thing on my honda. best solution i have for you is to go to home depot and get the smallest ryobi screw extractor they have, or the 5 piece kit with the #1 size extractor. i was able to drill the screw tith black oxide drill bits, but if your bolts are stainless steel youll want cobalt bits
CHASE dont get frustrated its all just a learning experience your doing a great job we all know you dont know much about tools and its ok
Careful between foot pound and inch pound, those small bolts are probably 100In/lb so that's about 10Ft/lb. As far as getting the bolt out, try a good screw/bolt extractor which will drill the center out then slowly try to reverse it. Otherwise you'll need to get someone to very carefully drill it out without killing the hole threads
Hey Chase, I think the torque setting is 10Nm as its a metric bolt. Your torque wrench looks like 1/2", It won't have 10Nm on there. You need a 1/4" or 3/8" torque wrench.
Buddy, every time you set the torque wrench you have to unscrew the lock nut and lose the handle/meter all the way to cero, then set it to the specific torque for each bolt, in this case I could see that there is a specific torque for all the cover. Watch out that the handle has two sides with different settings, one side is N/M which is Newton /Meters and the other side is FT/LBS which is Foot /Pounds.
The other thing is that you have to set the torque wrench to specific torque according to the manual if you are using the factory bolts. If you change the bolts for SS hardware store ones I'll recommend you to buy factory ones.
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Hey man, you need a 3/8 torque wrench. Look into a reverse easy out to get the broken bolts out. It's like a drill bit that can remove broken bolts with ease. If you want to do it the hard way, pull the cover off and take the bolt out by hand. It wont have any tension on it and come out easily.
pure comedy! got to love a trier, keep the great content coming, good to see you not hiding your mistakes, not the best way to learn bit it is a way to learn! 10 out of 10 for give it a go attitude.
The specs must be in inch pounds, not foot pounds. Chase, I think that you should try removing the bolts getting new ones and reinstalling them by hand without the impact. It's cool it how we all learn!! Keep the content coming!!
I have the same torque wrench dude. I learned very quickly that it does NOT detect low foot-pound pressure at all.
the torque wrench has a little click when you reach the right ft lbs of torque. As for the bolt that's stuck you need a counter spin bit. ( bolt remover tool ) I had to do the same thing on my truck when I snapped the bolt on the water pump.
Put JB Weld on the end of the broken piece screw it back in wait a few hours then take it out. If that doesn't work then your gonna have to tap it out. Hope this helps
Large torque wrenches are difficult to use on the lowest torque settings, or you may have been setting it for too high a torque. I did the same thing on my engine crankcase so I feel your pain! I bought smaller torque wrenches and they work much better for motorcycle applications.
To remove the bolt I put a few drops of oil in the hole and was able to take some skinny needle nose pliers and pull the bolt out. Otherwise you may need to drill the bolt out which is not too hard, you just need a special bit, and remember to be careful around the threads.
I feel for you, man! I've been there many times... learning through trial and error, don't lose faith. Maybe you should consider getting someone with mechanical knowledge involved in the rebuild? There must be guys that watch your channel and are willing to help...That way you can learn on the job and avoid some of the 'doh!' moments! Good luck bro, you'll get there!