BMW Headlights Condensation repair part1
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- Опубликовано: 25 дек 2020
- Hi, in this new episode you can see how I repair a headlight that take water and make condensation, on a BMW 5 Series F10, at first I thought it was cracked but it turned out that someone changed the lens and did not mount it correctly, I had to disassemble it again and do it properly, to open it I used the hot air blower set at 250 degrees Celsius and for reassembly I used a reusable mastic for which you can find the link below . Another adventure successfully completed !!!
For part 2 a more easy repair : • BMW Headlights Condens...
WARNING ! This is NOT a DIY , and I'm not responsible for any damage you may do trying to copy what you see in this Video.
I've been doing this for over 15 years, that's why some things may seem simple in this videos. I have a vast experience working with BMW MINI and Rolls Royce , abbreviated BMW Group , and that's why you may see things that seem impossible or very difficult to do, done easily !
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detailed, thorough, and to the point. This video should be used at all BMW training labs. well done, sir!!
finally a romanian diy channel that make quality content
Nice !!
Second video I've watched of yours with the trusty knive you use. I'm in awe of your attention to detail and cleanliness. Thank you for posting!
A fantastic guide - with some brilliant tips and pointers.
Thankyou and bravo !
Thank you thank you thank you! Your air suspension video helped me a while back.
This video (and part two) helped me find and fix a leak in my headlight. I got the common errors after I got really bad condensation in the head light. No cracks, but the seal on the outer side was bad. Dried out the light, check the module (luckily no corrosion and the connectors were clean), put it back on the car and no errors. Ended up resealing the area with clear silicone.
Now let’s see what happens next time it rains 😅
Thanks again!
First one I've seen so far that properly (besides the knife action in the beginning) opens the cover without damaging, cutting, baking,, the headlight.
This confirms that you can keep the OEM Hella headlight without going for expensive/cheap alternatives. Thank you sir for the REAL DIY FIX example 🙏
Thank you for your feedback !
Though I love all BMWs, and yes even the controversial “Bangel” BMWs, the F10 5 series has a special place in my heart! I remember visiting the dealer just to sit in the driver’s seat...dreaming of one day driving a fantastic car like that!
Thanks for the memories and the video 😏 Take care and keep well!
Also as a side note...I miss my E46 where you could remove the headlight without touching the bumper 😂
This is the video I was looking for! I shouldve watched part 1 before part 2 lol. I love how you opened the headlight using heat gun and pried it open. In other videos I saw on youtube, people just cut the headlight cover and fit new cover or just glued over the cut area, which scared me. I’m gonna show this video to the guy who’s going to repair my headlights. Thank you so much.
Thank you.
This is a great video.
The second screw behing was a nightmare with my limited tools.
Thanks to your compressed air method I found a crack on top of the glass 😊.
Fixed with a soldering iron.
Pressure washed the car today and all good. No water 😊
Ok, so this weekend I finally took the nearside headlight out - in the rain! I was able to drain out about half a mug of water through the vent on the far corner, so it had gone way beyond 'condensation' stage!! I used soapy goodness as described and used a pump up water sprayer (empty of course) and only saw massive bubbles coming from the two caps - lots of bubbles. Nowhere else though. Having popped it in the oven for about an hour on 50 degrees fan and hiar-dryered it, the following morning it was dry, but the little control board was clearly being submerged because, even gentle acceleration was triggering many faults with their associated bings and bongs warnings, including no left indicator. So I used some double sided sticky tape to bulk-up the seals and then they were hard to put back on - excellent. I have just reassembled it all after drying the little control module and cleaning the terminals/contacts and the whole thing works beautifully. I did this on my narrow driveway exposed to the elements. I feel I need a week off, counselling and a pay rise. Fortunately, I only have one bolt left over and I have absolutely no clue where i removed it from. Thank you for your guidance - particularly regarding that bolt right up behind the rear inner aspect of the headlight. That was clearly positioned there just so someone could design a new special tool to get to it. Pure evil BMW, pure evil...
What a great, well explained video. Thank you for taking the time to go into so much detail.
Glad you enjoyed it!
My mate has a 2012 reg 530D which he's had from new, always BMW main dealer maintained. The left hand (HiD) headlamp was misting up to the extent that it was throwing up faults on the computer due to the damp in there. BMW quoted £2,300 for a new headlamp and fitting. We hinged up the plastic cover under the bonnet and removed the bayonet-fitting circular cover in the top of the headlamp, which now lives in the driver's door pocket. with the top of the headlamp open. We then dried it out gently with a hot air gun and put a couple of silica gel bags in from the top. The cover was left off, and since then it's been through a winter and a summer with no trace of internal condensation. (It is always condensation by the way, not water ingress). No problems at all. I also recommended this to another friend who had the same problem with the same model and he's had clear lamps ever since as well after doing the same thing. Much better than all this faff!
I sealed the wheel well panel that gave access to the back of the headlight after I put gasket silicon on the round seals. When driving in the rain, water should not come through the plastic cover. The air escaping would allow water in if the headlight was under water but not from just rain. A crack maybe. Sealing the wheel well access panel helped and I have not had issues since. Bad design. In heavy rain the wheel well is splashed constantly from the tire carrying water up.
You're assuming that the moisture in there is water ingress due to water leaking into the light. There was no water ingress, in these two cases at least, it was just condensation forming within the light. In the second case the owner removed the light and proved that there was no water getting in and that the misting was just condensation, so there was no point in trying to seal leaks when there weren't any.@@dgoettel13
If you are thinking of doing this yourself, there is something not mentioned here, the screw on the back of the headlight is very inaccessible, it gave me a lot of trouble like everything else I removed. Removing the plastic from the headlight is a separate story, after losing my temper with it I took it to the gentleman who does it to have it replaced.
Thank you for everything else, very well explained!
Now I'm stuck with those screws. Any suggestions?
Great video. I just had this problem, which was not cheap, but I didn't even think about doing it myself, because you need to have conditions. It is very strange that this is a big problem for BMW F series models.
Very good video. And i understand your English perfectly. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for this video. Very helpful. In my case, I realised I didn't want to take this on myself! For those in the UK, Home of Headlights in London reseal headlights at a very reasonable price. I'm a happy customer, having a BMW 5 Series F10 left hand side headlight resealed.
I enjoyed your very good attention to detail and perfection with your work! I can only imagine the cost of the actual headlamp housing vs the time you took to do this repair.
Glad you enjoied !!
I need have mine done and bmew want £1250 for parts labour and tax
I need to have mine too, daylight + blinkers don't work anymore due to the condense... it will be a 3k fix...
Very time consuming, I enjoyed it
@@MOvidiu how much do you charge
Ovidiu, unde te gasesc? Imi place f mult ce faci si cum lucrezi. Esti genul de om de care toata lumea are nevoie. Bravo!!!
Lucrezi foarte bine!
Detaliat și curat!bravo. Mi-as dori sa găsesc oameni ca tine sa lucreze asa si la a mea. Am un f10 . Un far începe sa se exfolieze si rămâne mat.se rup parca ar fi solzi de peste.
Succes in continuare!
Excellent tutorial video. Just what I was looking for same headlight. Will attempt tomorrow.
Thank you very much @MOvidiu, this was truly an excellent video, very detailed and thorough. Watching this video, I figured there are really two sets of skills at work. The first (and easy) set of skills was just the removal of the bumper and the headlight assembly. The second (and difficult) set of skills was the disassembly of the headlight unit and the resealing of it. Your video taught me to do the first, but to skip the second and take the headlight to a specialized shop to be resealed by a professional who has plenty of experience in this specific task (in my case, it was Headlight Factory in Sun Valley, CA, near Los Angeles). There are 2 minor areas that could be improved in your video: 1- You mentioned 2 plastic clips at the bottom of the bumper at 5:15. I could indeed remove them, but could not put them back for the life of me, there was just no room to push them down. Any tips on how to do this would be appreciated. 2- You did a really good job telling what screw was what size and you showed where it was except for 2 of them at 6:08 and 6:23, I assume it was a difficult angle for the camera and the light. All in all, you did a phenomenal job!
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Thanks for this.
When we see how many views these lamp condensation video's have is it not time the manufacturers did something positive to stop the problem!
I have had this twice on a BMW E36 but cannot find a video showing how to cure apart from putting a hair dryer over the glass, and lasted for a few days. I then had the headlamp replaced and same thing happened. Now just hoping for sunny days to hopefully cure the problem until next winter!
Thank you, this cleared up a lot for me. I am struggling with the same issue (I have an F11, practically the same head light). I didn't mind the wetness that much until failure messages started to popup, later followed by actual failures of direction lights along with just strange behavior. Both the local repair shop and an official BMW dealer only offered a replacement, no repair, claiming it was impossible to take it apart. Anyway, the offered replacement was way too expensive to take lying down (over 1500 Euros) so I started tinkering.
I first tried to dry the thing by putting a hair dryer in the circular hole after screwing off that cap. Put the engine on, big lights on, warming the thing up real good and it visibly dried up in an hour or so. I then stuffed a bag of silica gel into the hole and screwed the cap back on. This operation actually made the problems go away for a couple of weeks but of course that didn't last. I never really replaced the wet air. It looked like some of it escaped when heating it up but most of it remained trapped and was just distributed internally, temporarily drying up the affected electronics. I am not enough of a mechanic to take the bumper off so today I drilled some holes into the transparent part just under the hood and pumped in dry air to replace the wet air. That worked a bit. Once dry I intend to plug the holes again with sealant, hoping it will be OK for a couple of months. I will probably have to repeat this process in the future to keep it in working order. And nuke the silica gel in time before it gets saturated.
i have same problem now, did this work?
@@jpctc2008 The silica gel was not that effective after all. Just taking the screw cap off and leaving it off worked better, I haven't had any condensation in the lens since I did that. After a short lived recovery the problem remained stable: no direction light from the unit (the direction light on the side panel still works). It has been like this for months now, all winter. During really wet periods I still get the odd problem with the right direction light not working either but this typically clears up quickly.
I can live with it but my car is up for periodic inspection (mandatory where I live) and probably won't be approved with this issue. So I will have to have it fixed after all. I did learn the problem is in the electronics. That could be a cheaper fix than replacing the whole unit. Back to the dealership...
@@MartinMaat i live in Netherlands, its cost about 1300-1500 euro by bmw-dealer, i think it's not necessary to replace it for such price. i dont worry about the fog, but the rust/corrosion with too many water in the cap. i will open the cap, try some silicagel after this. thank you
Here's an update. I found and ordered the TMS module online and replaced it (Googled for serial and part number which are printed on the circuit board). It is accessible though the hatch in the front wheel cabinet. The original module was corroded at the contacts. The replacement worked a little better, it fixed the turning light but not the angel eyes. I read on the internet that the module might need to be "coded". I found a shop that could do this but it made no difference. A couple of days later, after some rainy days, all of the problems returned. The TMS module compartment appeared to be all wet. I dried it with paper towels and then everything worked again! Then I dried it some more with a hair drier and it stopped working again. It turned out the connector slot the TMS module is seated in was badly corroded. The outer contacts were all gone and others were half gone. I could see this after taking a picture with my phone with flash. With too much water I got short circuits, with it being dry there was no contact. I looked like I hit the sweet spot for a moment but obviously this was not going to become better. It looks like I need a new unit after all. The connector does not look replacable.
Awesome video... The way you check where is leaking is something new i learned. Greetings from Bosnia
Glad it was helpful! :)
Thanks Ovidiu,
Nicely presented 🙂
Another perfect video 👏👏👏
Thank you for your hard work, bro 👍
Hey there! I'm glad that you like it
@@MOvidiu hello bro thnks for this video where i find this silikon
@@giorgitsalatze1370 Read the video description:)
great job. i hope I can find someone who can take care of my care as much as you do.
You will definitely find it , it will cost more than someone normal . but you will find
I have had a big problem with the rear screw of the left headlamp on my 2014 520d b47: there is an electric water pump in that place and removing the screw is almost impossible. I have broken away the light (it was already broken doing to a deer collision). When I have mounted the new light, I've simple swapped the clip with the screw, to put the screw from the front of the headlight. The right light had a problem of moisure and I have sealed the light all around with a special silicone . Thank you for the video!!!
Great video pal! Looking forward to watching more of your content.
More to come!
Good Job i have this problem with a BMW 1 series and This is the Best Demo of tear down and Repair Thanks !
Glad it helped
Did a replacement lens on an X5. Make sure you use compressed air to blow out all the accumulated dust particles before reassembly.
You can use 3M windshield adhesive in the channel, for the reinstall.
I needed to sharpen a screwdriver to dig out the old adhesive.
Hello Marty. I am looking for someone to do my BMW 5 Series headlight. Would you be interested ? Where you based ?
@@erfan6269 I'm in NC. I would advise doing both, so they match. Not sure I would want to do it for someone else. There is a risk involved in screwing up. The lenses I put in a year ago already need to be polished. Plus it takes about 5+ hours per light. So I'd have to charge $150 per light, plus the cost of the lens. Cheaper than new, but not cheap.
@@martymeyer4125 Hey Marty thanks for replying. I am in Manchester, England, so North Carolina going to be a bit too far 😉.
Great work. Impressive attention to detail
Hey , glad you like it !
And finally i seal my headlight in 5 minutes with silikon ... its dry since 50 tkm ... but finally nice professional work bro! Everything is perfekt!
I'm glad you enjoyed !
Nice and clear video M. Ovidiu.
Next week i will give it a try.
Just some questions: what is the diameter of the silicone seal u used?
And you prefere a silicone seal or butyl?
Great work! With that video you helped to many peoples! Thank you
Glad to hear that!
Thank you so much. U saved me 2000€ with this tutorial. God bless u :)
Brilliant way to explain in details.
“Was smart enough to do this iob but not smart enough to do it properly” 🤣 so true
But it got done without damage :) Success! Five more times and you'll have it down:)
Perfect job. Thank you
Amazing work! Thanks for sharing.
I'm glad it was helpful and thank you for the feadback !
Amazing job and so patient with it. I wish you could do mine!
Foarte frumos lucrat! Felicitari! 👏
Nice work, 👌🏼
greetings from a BMW Driver to, from Germany ✌🏻
Hello there! :)
Very informative, thank you!
Nice, good job! Loved your video.
Impressive work, thanks for the upload
Glad that you like it, check out the rest of my videos!
Auto Po zalaniu.zadanie wykonane na 10.bardzo dobra Robota 👍👍👍
Thank you for this Video, really good Job 👍
Really thorough work. Great video work too! Subbed
Awesome, thank you!
I like the instrumental in the back ground playing
So clean! I want to do this to my BMW - it's a family car. It was my Grandmother's, then she gave it to her daughter, and then my mom gave it to me. All I need is a garage and cool tools.
Nice to hear that! Go for it, but be aware that it is a little bit hard !
Very good job and well explained, well done man
Much appreciated!
Guy you are very skilled! Thx for your tips!
Glad you like them!
Clean job!
Finalmente un video che mostra quanto realmente è difficile aprire un fanale!
Great video. How did you deal the headlight again using only pliers? Do you have to heat up the sealant first?
Thanks for the video, next time make an oven out of a cardboard box to heat up the headlight adhesive fully using your heat gun, that way you can do the job of removing the lens easier. Then i would use a product called Selleys D Mastic specially designed for headlights and windscreens etc.
This is great mate, thanks so much
I will do mine tomorrow just before setting to work
Have fun :)
Super schön gemacht!!! Super!!! Super 😮❤
Love this and I am doing just this on the facelifted version. Seems to me though that BMW have made it harder as the lens is now attached to the housing with a screw that is impossible to reach.
Ottimo! Bravissimo
Great video. I just had this problem, but I was able to solve it without removal and it seems to work. I opened the maintenance acces inside the wheel housing. The I opened the access door to the Xenon light. I set up a hairdryer so that it blows in warm air into the headlight. After about 30 mins, everything was dry inside. After that, Ileft the access door to the Xenon open, but closed the wheel housing. In the evening, the light were perfectly clear, and what is essential - cold air was inside the headlight unit. Cold air means, very little humidity. Then I opened the wheel housing to close the Xenon door. My really very wet headlight is dry since. I'm sure it will condense again some day, but then I know that I just have to take my hairdryer, ... this method is fast and really really cheap ;)
Any update is it still okay?
@@harrylockley3792 After a few weeks it started again. I then only took off the inner cover of the unit but closed the maintenance access again. This means, I now drive with an open headlight unit. But, since then no more water inside. But attention. This is just a hack. I will remove the unit and seal it. They say it will stay dry then.
Excellent instructive video thank you. It helped me fix a leak I had in the passenger headlight a couple of years back - thank you.
When the drivers side showed heavy condensation recently I tackled the job with a little more confidence but on removing the unit, I cannot find the leak anywhere! I have sprayed soapy water and puffed air for ages. I'm stumped. Reluctant to put it all back together without diagnosing the problem. Any suggestions? Please?
Perfectly done!
Klasse Video. Thank you.
A job well done!
Amazing job !!!!!!!
Great tutorial! Much appreciated!
Good job, your work place nice and clean
Thanks 😊
Great video and the job well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very helpfull video , you are true profesional , thank you
Nice! Thanks for appreciation
Very good work! With love 😁😊👍🏻
Thanks for appreciation !!
Great work!
Nice job. I'm looking to replace my e66 lenses, do you know a reputable quality replacement source for them? Thanks for any help.
What a great video.
Nicely done 👍
Very good content, very nice job. Keep it going!!
Thank you very much!
Nice work👍 y watch you every time 👌
Great video. I wish someone like You could fix my car. Thanks
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Nice 👍
Really nice video dude! I removed my light and could only find a leak on the two caps to the bulbs. But, yet I have a ton of water in the housing. 1. Does that sound right? 2. What grease should I use to better seal the lens caps? Thanks for the great video!!!! You helped me out a ton!
Glad I could help , use normal grease you just need to lightly grease the gaskets to slide in place
Great Video thank you , I replace most of the Plastik Holder of e39 , but I have problems with the open the Cover. The one way witch I found is to cut the Cover with a saw and replace a now one. How Do you take off the Hard Glue? Only with a heatgun and screwdrivers? How you came inside the cannel where this Hard adhesiv is?
Thank you
Thanks for the informations. Which width has the sticky band or is recommended?
We just inspected the same thing on my E65. In my case it was low beam bulb cover😀👍
How did you seal the bulb cover better? Mine is leaking badly too!
Super tare! Felicitări!
thanks, i'm going to do it this way too!
Can I also use glue or sealant kit
?
Nice video. Well done !!
Thank you very much!
Great video. What's the approximate cost for fixing a leaky headlite?
Multumim pentru munca depusa, sa ne prezinti intreaga operatiune!. Cum se numeste banda aceea de lipit? E speciala pentru lipit sticla de faruri sau e pentru parbrize?
Mult succes in continuare!!
Perfect jop
thanx for video this video has been a guide for me and i done it whit a friend
Glad it helped
Mișto, mulțumim pentru video, foarte util. Mi-am reparat un far de Hyundai urmărind asta. Inițial am lăsat masticul vechi (am urmărit alt clip) și i-am turnat niște silicon negru de jur împrejur. Dar, aparent, nu s-a sigilat suficient de bine. La prima spălare cu jet a intrat puțină apă printr-un colț. Am luat mastic nou, demontat, curățat iar de mi-au venit dracii, pus mastic, încălzit, împins bine componentele, testat apoi cu săpun și pare să nu răsufle pe nicăieri.
Super tare ! ma bucur ca ai reusit ! Bravo!!
nice quality work!
Glad you like it!
Hello I saw your video's I liked it very much thanks
Thanks and welcome
Thank you, that`s really well done of you. I`m saving this video. I have seen people get units apart by warming a whole assembly in a cooking type oven, have you tried to use this method for a stripdown? I`m interested in getting both mine apart, Mazda, as i have dust inside on my lenses.
Thank you very, this is an amazing video 👏👏👏
Glad you liked it!
Good effort doing the whole video in English, well done mate 👏🏼
Clean work nice done 👌
Thank you! Cheers!
Dobar klip...pozdrav iz Srbije
Nice and clean job Bro
Thanks 👍
Great video - thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed, and thanks for feedback